Is Ninja Gaiden Trilogy Worth Playing Today? - SNESdrunk
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You know a port is half assed when the NES version has parallax scrolling while the SNES version doesn't. Actually, calling that half assed is giving it too much credit. It needs a new term. This port is quarter assed.
Funny enough, they kept the parallax scrolling for Ninja Gaiden 2, but removed them for 3. I mean, WFT?
Half cheeked.
Whole assed
It did have parallax scrolling
I disagree with the popular definition of backwards compatibility. To me it means being able to play the copy of the game you own on a newer system. If you have to buy the game again, it does not count as backwards compatibility, but as a re-release. Just my two cents.
soooooo true bud!!!
+Ghost81 Technically correct, however he did say "roundabout way" so he did mean you can play your old games on the new system, just not your old cartridges.
You disagree because what you said actually is the definition of backwards compatibility. Its funny you even made this comment because, after he said that, all I kept thinking about was how that's not what it means to be backwards compatible LOL. I WISH I could play NES cartridges on my SNES. Well, I still have my NES, but the SNES' controller is just way better.
Your definition is the correct one
Nintendo still doea this!!!
A button as jump = the mortal sin of SNES.
Thank god you can adjust it in Super Metroid.
Wait...what do you mean? As in, “jump should always be up” or...?
@@jjboi6008 B, it always should be mapped to B.
@@ZEBASSumm no on NES the A in on right and B is on left and jump is A in EVERY NES game so you can attack while jumping.
You press A with middle of thumb and B with tip of thumb. If it was reversed it would be awkward af.
And a lot of games you hold B with tip to run and then press A with middle to jump farther this would not work with B as jump
Well done, this was a good and honest review. So many reviewers have rose tinted glasses on when reviewing older games but you nailed it. Your frustration comes through just enough without being over the top. Very entertaining. The comparison to Super Mario All Stars was relevant and fair. Keep it up!
Brother you save me a good chunk of money, thanks
I have the game it's not as bad as he's describing he's a little bit much it could have been better but it ain't as bad as he's describing.
Same to me
Shadow of the Ninja was also a great game on the NES. It's by Natsume (back then). So you know it's serious fun.
Vice is also another ninja gaiden type game, for some reason the price has shot up on ebay on it. I remember when I bought my latest copy of it like 6-7 years ago it was $4, same with Shatterhand. I think the Internet retro scene has blown up some of the prices recently considering I always saw multiple copies of them at game shops for dirt cheap for years. As little as 5 years ago I remember seeing unopened n64 and snes console bundle packs that came with certain pack in games going for like $120.
I prefer pocky and rocky now that’s serious fun!!
@@richardg5301 Love Vice Project Doom. Still one of my all time favorite platformer games in the NES.
@@richardg5301 The retro gaming market in general has become quite expensive, and frankly I think a lot of it has to do with the current gen stuff really not being all that great so many people are wanting to go back and play old school stuff more now than ever.
@@alucard624 Alucard, I think you hit it right in the nail! These new games are souless crap. The last game I remember that looked good and also had lot's of heart, was Ninja Gaiden Black on the original Xbox. What a beauty of a game and challenging and fun nonetheless, and for its time, looked next gen, it was quite incredible to play that game in those days.
That shitty music was the reason I put it down as a youngster.
Avalanche Reviews like anybody has time to notice the music playing ninja gaiden haha
Damn who put together this crappy trilogy. Horrible sound, no button configuration, and way easier than the original. Why the FUCK I added this garbage to my SNES classic.
Yo with msu1 u wont be dissapoited ..believe me
@@whatsreallygoingon253 But the music is usually the most praised aspect of NG games, mah dude :o
Short answer: No. Play the NES games instead.
This collection is on my list of games to revamp with an all-out custom hack. It will include a great controller mod, and several soundtrack options. The default soundtrack will be available (I actually like it in a "different genre-style remixes of old favorites" way) but high quality rips of the NES tracks will also be there. I'd like to even work in an option for some of the beautiful 80s synthpop arranged tracks they made for the second game, and of course eventually my own remix albums for all three games, using a lot of SNES samples with some modifications to better mimic the style of the original NES tracks. There would also be a completion bonus called "Ninja Master" that grants infinite subweapon energy and a button-select to scroll through all the subweapons at will. Now you can use the vertical blades in the first game, or the spinslashmurderdeathkillgodmove in the second and third games! :D
That sounds rad, put it on a cartridge and I'll buy!
If you want to play a decent 16 bit version of Ninja Gaiden (the first one), there's a port for the PC-Engine under the name "Ninja Ryuuken Den" that looks a ton better graphicly speaking. One thing to note however is that some tricks that worked on the bosses in both the NES and SNES versions don't work in this one, meaning you can't cheese the first 2 fights. However, some new tricks that wouldn't work in the NES game now work in this version so there's some balancing out. While the game never came out in the west, it for some reason has a full English translation already built in, just hold the I & II buttons on the title screen and press select until the text under the title is in English. It's too bad Tecmo wasn't able to make the SNES version of this games look even half as good as this Hudson Soft handled port that was done on LESS POWERFUL HARDWARE!
The turbografx wasn't really less powerful than the snes like that. It's true the snes was more capable with things like color palette and sound, but the turbografx had a much faster cpu and suffered much less from slowdown when lots of sprites were on screen.
Or just play the master system PAL version. Still 8 bit but looks way better than NES games and has better enviroments/settings
I actually like the music in the trilogy (5-3 in the first game comes in mind). Hey, 3 games in 1, and playing it on the SNES Mini worth it.
I actually like the SNES music versions. Maybe not all of them, but many.
I know it's been a year, but I have to give a mad prop to someone else who appreciates these remixes! The remix of the legendary "Dad Fight" song is tear-jerking, and the extra layers to the "New York/Mountain/Final Push" theme really help to color in the pseudo-leitmotif effect they were going for. Plus, if you are a music-maker like myself, some of the individual instrument samples from this soundtrack are actually some of the best and most unique you can find in the SNES library. Those muted trumpets are so classy. :D
I really like this game's soundtrack, too.
i'm mixed but some SNES versions just blow the originals out of the water, for example Act 1-1 of NG1 which he played. Sure, the trumpet sounds a little farty but in my playthrough of the trilogy it hugely grew on me
I bought a used copy of this when the Super Nintendo was current as it was fairly cheap at the time at that store, but it just felt off for some reason. I threw it in my box o' games and mostly forgot about it for years. Then I found out that it was a semi-rare game and happily put it up on eBay. Not a bad little chunk of change.
Glad to see you went back and did a full review of this one.
It was so weird when that game came out, because Super Mario All-Stars had come up a couple years before, and the first two games we got with our NES when I was a little kid were Super Mario Bros and Ninja Gaiden.
I liked the music, i liked the touched up original graphics. They def shoulda offered a " button settings" option.
The graphics on this port just remind of Sega Master System quality graphics.
It was disappointed. I definitely agree with you on the control scheme: there should've been third buttons for special moves and Y and B should've been jump and attack respective. The music and sound were definitely screechy, but I got used to them... eventually.
I have to disagree with you though on the play value. Expensive, yes. Ear sore, definitely. But the password system definitely made things a lot easier and that's why I recommend this version over the NES ones. Yeah, I know, it sounds a lot like overcompensation, but I have zero patience trying to beat the whole game in one setting.
Just DL'd this & Megaman 1-5 on the 3ds for for under 20 bix. It's a total steal. Love reliving my childhood!
Trade you 100 weetabix for your 3ds. Now that’s a steal
I remember playing Ninja Gaiden the arcade version at 7-11 after school so much. When I got the nes version of NG, was devastated by the difference and quickly traded for Bad Dudes on nes, another let-down. I never really gave it a try. So glad I picked it up a few years ago, cant get past the first phase of the last boss.
Thank you so much for this video.
I've never played NG and I wanted to try it out, and my question was exactly this. "Will playing the SNES trilogy give me the same sound and picture quality that each NES title would?"
You answered my question succinctly and I didn't have to sit through an obnoxiously long video full of dumbass intros, outros and yammering.
Thank you!
The games are slightly less responsive to boot. Download an NES emulator and play them on there. That's the best way outside of hunting down the NES and games.
I remember when this trilogy got released and everybody got real sad those games didnt get any facelifts like the mario all stars... because of that it was a hard pass back in the day.
Yup even back in the day if you were a big Ninja Gaiden fan (like me) this collection was a massive disappointment. It's why it didn't sell well and is now rare and expensive.
TBH the music is my favorite aspect of this collection. I still prefer the original tracks though
This is a TECMO licensed game. Yes, that's right, the same developer who made Tecmo Super Bowl, Tecmo Super Bowl 2 and Tecmo Super Bowl 3 made THIS compilation. I can tell everyone one thing: Tecmo Super Bowl is a HELL of a lot better than this compilation! Not to mention, the sound effects are ear-bleeding (in this compilation)!
You didn't even touch on the huge list of errors this game adds.
From a lack of color fading to removing lightning and other level effects, to playing wrong sound effects during cutscenes, all the way down to even adding spelling errors to the text that wasn't there before. Spelling errors!
You know, sometime I've thought about this game and wondered if maybe the problem with colors not updating properly was actually a problem with my emulator, and maybe it didn't have that problem on the real hardware. But then I remembered that they added spelling errors to the text, and then realize that they just did a crappy job.
I actually have a fondness for this title, since it was my first exposure to Ninja Gaiden, and while I don't think it's terrible, no one should ever pay the ridiculous prices people want online for it
If you ever get to play the originals, you'd see why this is considered terrible in comparison. Without comparing, I guess it's pretty all right.
I'm so sorry
I think this is worth playing, only if you don't have access to the NES versions.
You failed to mention the crappy sound effects too. For me, the most satisfying sound effect was when you collected an item on the NES versions of all three games. The sound that the SNES uses sounds nothing at all like the NES version.
I've recently been playing the original ninja gaiden trilogy and I'm loving it! I'll just leave this game in the I'm good off this list! Awesome video Drunk!
I didn't get this when it was out. I only played Ninja Gaiden 1 on NES. Had they made the ARCADE version for the SNES, that would've been epic.
Was this your first rant?
Phew, exciting! :D
Absolutely. I mean the NES versions are superior but not by a large margin. And it's always good to have different versions of games. I'm not joining the trend of bashing Ninja Gaiden Trilogy. That compilation is perfectly fine. The NES versions are just better.
Love this trilogy on the snes
Yeah glad you mentioned how they screwed with the music so badly.
This was my game in that era.
I rented this game. I thought it was the arcade versions of those games. I had no clue.
I remember renting the crap out of this when I was a kid and it was my favorite game for a while but then whenever I played it as an adult by emulation I couldn't get past the nitpicks. Go for the NES trilogy.
The U.S. version of Ninja Gaiden III benefits well from the perks of SNES Ninja Gaiden Trilogy, like the password system. Unlike in the American NES version, in the SNES Ninja Gaiden Trilogy version, there’s no limit on continues and the cheat code is no longer necessary, and you don’t have to complete the game in one sitting.
Oh god, I totally agree with NOT getting NGT
This is totally how you do not remake a game for a better console.
I just think its scary its so expensive.
One thing about the SNES Trilogy is they censored the pentagram on Jaquio. Crappy port with more censorship.
Ninja Gaiden Trilogy works on SNES Classic Edition microconsole. I sideloaded the game on to it.
Very nice review, absolutely spot-on!
thanks for this video... i won't be spending 500$ on the trilogy box set for SNES now thanks to you... i'll just get the original NES games instead :)
You can get a repro of the game on etsy for like 30$. That's what I did. Works the same
bejais i have the actual new carts for all 3
bejais NES* not new. my bad. i have the actual "original" NES carts
Hey! The music of the Trilogy is good! Some musics have and additional melody that doesn't exist in the NES version and the Rock style just makes me headbang (but the NES version is still better).
And the graphics are good, but they updated the cutscenes and called a 5 year old to retouch the general graphics LOL! But the game looks really good in a CRT in real hardware.
Yeah, I don't recommend buying this, is better to play it in a Everdrive or SD2SNES. Specially that you would prefer buying a Flash Cart with tons of games than just this 3 ports.
Anyway, the Password system makes the replay factor way better than the NES ones.
HUGE difference between "backwards compatibility" and "enhanced remake".
1st one is for convenience.
2nd one is for experiencing an old game in a new way.
My question is this: WHY is Ninja Gaiden Trilogy so OVERRATED? It seems like nearly everyone seems to overrate this compilation and I HATE that. I'd give Ninja Gaiden Trilogy a C AT BEST (yeah, I know I'm kinda lenient on video games most of the time). Also, REALLY? B for jump & A for attack on a SNES controller? Super Mario All-Stars lets you jump with B and attack/run with Y. Not to mention, this compilation doesn't let you CHANGE your controls, unlike Super Mario All-Stars!
This is the definition of a game that is way too expensive to buy an original SNES cartridge of. At least if you shell out around a $100, more like $80ish, for Chrono Trigger you get a real masterpiece. Not that I am going to be getting a copy of that game at that price either anytime soon, just sayin'.
Hey SNES Drunk, have you played Jim Power: The Lost Demesion in 3D? It is just as hard as Super Ghouls N'Ghosts, Contra 3: The Alien Wars, and Ninja Gaiden Trilogy.
Dang how do you really feel?
The B/A instead of Y/B control scheme is why I have trouble playing NES games on my Switch. Made me go out and convert an original NES controller to Bluetooth.
I will say that it would've been great to have Y and B as the NES B and A buttons. There is using X as B though.
The first thing that hurt me was the first level of ninja gaiden and hearing that music. How do you screw up this classic music on a superior system?
I played the originals first when they came out and then the SNES version years later. The new music soundfont is way better than the original. It's much more smooth and just plain inviting.
TheSentientmeat
Does it still play the same (All Time GREAT) death jingle when you die?
Matthew Smith Not much changed
It is sad that you can't buy an nes and all three original carts for that price anymore.
Ninja Gaiden was better on the NES sounded better, played better, looked better. Should have made a Ninja Gaiden 4.
I'm sorry but why would you want B as jump and Y as attack? this would require a horizontal motion of your thumb to move from jump to attack every time whereas having it on A and B allows you to seamlessly jump and attack having your finger positioned on both buttons you press A with the middle part of your thumb and press B with the tip of your thumb without ever moving the tip of your thumb between the two buttons this is an intentional and is the optimal control scheme for any of these games same as Super Mario B is run a is jump and you hold down B with the tip of your finger and then press A with the mid part of your finger you cannot do this if the buttons are y and B
I wish the trilogy had the graphics upgrade the PCE version had (plus actual parallax scrolling).
i totally disagree
I like how Mario looked being revamped for the super Nintendo but I don't like how jumping into blocks feel
I don't think Ninja Gaiden Trilogy is a bad game as many say, I actually played it on the Super Nintendo without knowing the NES version was better and it was still a lot of fun. You get used to the controls pretty quickly; the music isn't bad by any means, I mean, it's not the best on the Super Nintendo, but I think it's very decent; the graphics are very poor for a SNES game though, but I think there are some improvements over the NES version (though, to be fair, at times the NES version looks better from what I've seen)
I'm someone who didn't play Ninja Gaiden as a kid, so I don't have any nostalgia for it. All I remember is playing it in the living room with my roomates and we had a blast. Of course, it could have been a much better port, but it's not a bad game. NES are hard to come by in Brazil, and I don't have many ways to play the original Ninja Gaidens on a CRT TV. To be fair, in Brazil you can buy this game for U$12.50 from what I looked, but I just played it in a flashcard
I have no idea why it's so expensive in the US, though. I guess since the NES wasn't big here, people just aren't very aware of Ninja Gaiden
Duvido você achar esse jogo original por 12.50, se achou por esse preço obviamente é uma reprodução.
The third game in this version is the one to play as it's the better Japanese version versus the US release.
some of music was better...and since the NES kept failing to work this was a great release.
I actually enjoy the music for Ninja Gaiden 2 on SNES better.
Man was so pissed that didn't even tell us to have a great rest of the day, LOL.
Thx heated from this from a podcast an wanted a review 😅
This cart is awesome. I couldn't disagree with this review more. I think the SNES controls actually make these games play even better. Maybe just because it's more comfortable to hold, but I think the buttons respond even better too.
Get an NES Dogbone Controller
No.
Your loss.
The A & B buttons on your controller respond more than Y & X?
Crazy talk. The sound is awful, and the graphics look lame. Original all the way.
Dunno why but this reminds me of the Master System game of all things
Those "sheesh"es were awesome.
I'd like to read the interview that explains these ports.
Damn found my copy with renters case for $3.99 at CD Exchange in San Antonio.
If only had i seen this video before I bought the cartridge...
instead of buying the cartridge. you could simply get it in Ninja Gaiden (2004) for original Xbox
There is a ips patch to fix the button layout issue. Or at least lets you switch on the fly with L+R github.com/jordanbarkley/Ninja-Gaiden-Trilogy
That at least makes it playable
Nice quick review! The Ninja Gaiden Trilogy is up to about $175 or so, so now it's even more "not worth it". Shinobi is the best 16-bit Ninja video gamefranchise. Why? Because for some stupid reason, Ninja Gaiden decided to sit out the 16-bit era. What a fuck.
Sheesh/10
Never played this one and probably never will... thanks for the heads up!
Amazing game!!!!
I like this trilogy, nes versions are better imo. It's not bad just not so greatly updated like Super Mario All*Stars. Only thing i like more then the nes versions is Ryu's shading just looks a bit better
lol even the menu screens are wack as fuck. Glad I watched this video though. It made me realize it's a bad idea to get any NG games on my 3DS VC(which I literally almost did last night but got Bravely Default instead) because it'll be awkward as hell using the NES controls scheme with the 3DS button mapping(same as SNES). I had to do the same shit with Mario Bros 3 on my 3DS and it was SOOOOO uncomfortable yet I still beat it for the first time with restore points ;)
@2:18 I've been watching SNES drunk for a bit now and I think this may be the first F-Bomb I've heard. It's totally justified though.
Actually the last one that sold, sold for 13 bucks in 2019. And it's on eBay for 13 bucks if they haven't sold out
You're talking about reproduction
I was disappointed when I saw this game back in the 90s.
Ninja gaiden trilogy a top twenty classic
I have the original trilogy on my 3DS. 😁
Me Too! I'm so glad that we got them before the eShop closed. The NES Ninja Gaiden Trilogy is unavailable for the Nintendo Switch.
It looks like the Sega Master System version to me.
Imagine if it got the Super Mario All-Stars treatment instead of this rushed pile. Or better yet, they released a Super Ninja Gaiden IV like Konami did with Castlevania.
First time I heard you curse...
I’m not a fan of the nes sound ship, so I might like this game
played ninja gaiden 1 for the first time in my life on the switch online.. not only was i looking forward to it but actually hanging out for it, and I hate it. It's not about the difficulty.. I love challenging games.. The problem is the wall stick mechanic where control is absolutely terrible and unpredictable.
So at $130 title its safe to say it not worth picking up if unless you are me and just want to get it and slap it up on a shelf
At least it has ninjas in it.
kinda reminds me of the crash bandicoot trilogy for ps4. funny how history repeats.
What’s the music started at 1:05? I really like it.
Although you are completely right, it was different for me when the game came out. My old NES was more or less broken and I had never played the 3rd game so this cartridge was a godsend. Still today with emulators and the Wii shop, I always replay the classic NES games over this crappy port.
I still have this cart.
NES originals are better,
By far.
Stupid Tecmo.
Hudson Soft did a better 16-bit remake on the PC Engine.
Oh come on, switching power up usage from up+attack to a separate button is a terrible idea. Never liked when SNES games did that.
And I wonder how dumb they were to keep the buttons B and A just because it was B and A on the NES. Like, did any of 'em bother to pick up and play the game with an SNES controller before releasing this?
Fast forward 25 years and TECMO has largely butchered the rerelease of the Modern Ninja Gaiden trilogy with half-baked ports of the generally inferior versions of NG1+2.
More things change, the more they stay the same, huh?
What track is playing in the background when the video starts?
Yeah that's a pretty dead on assessment. Would much rather just play the NES originals.
The PC Engine version of the first Ninja Gaiden is wonky as hell too.
Wish i had some ninja gaiden trilogy its too expensive to get 2 and 3 on nes
Noted... just get the other 2 NES carts instead.
perfecly said