The Oilers are missing the youth and speed of Holloway and MacLeod, the speed of Foegele, and the intangibles of Kane. They are also missing Desharnais and Ceci. This team has actually regressed significantly from last year.
The Oilers top scoring forward McCloud 4 goal. The Oilers top assist getter Broberg 5. The Oilers signed 5 forwards over the age of 30 and brought in 3 D that UTAH/Arizona didn't want. Let that resonate.
‘88 the smallest D was Huddy at 6’0” 200lbs… everyone else was over 6’2” and just as heavy if not heavier. Size at the back end is so crucial especially when we’re talking about 2+ months of gruelling playoff punishment.
Long post follows with base game statistics including some for the Carolina Hurricanes. Read, don't read, up to you. These are BASE stats not detailed ones like the Cult of Hockey compiles. My comments and observations at the end. Statistics for Carolina Hurricanes at Edmonton Oilers October 22nd, 2024 Edmonton Oilers: McDavid 2 Goals (1 on PP) Nuge 1 Primary Assist Draisaitl 1 Primary Assist (PP) Bouchard 1 Secondary Assist (PP) S Skinner 27 Saves on 30 Shots = .909 Save %age Carolina Hurricanes: Gostisbehere 1 Goal (PP), 1 Secondary Assist (OT Winner) Necas 1 Goal, 2 Primary Assists (1 on PP, 1 on OT Winner) Aho 1 Goal (OT Winner) Robertson 1 Primary Assist Kotkaniemi 1 Secondary Assist Andersen 33 Saves on 35 Shots = .943 Save %age (very good) Hurricanes Oilers Shots on Goal 33 35 Hits 25 14 Faceoffs Won 23 29 PP 1/2 1/4 Penalty Mins 10 6 Giveaways 21 (19 per NST) 17 (13 per NST) Takeaways 10 (9 per NST) 9 (8 per NST) Blocked Shots 13 (10 per NST) 15 (14 per NST) 3 Stars: 3-Aho (1G OT Winner, 1A (PP)), Andersen (.943 Save %age), McDavid (2G, 1 on PP) Player TOI SOG +/- PIM Hits Blocks Giveaways Takeaways Bouchard 28:37 5 -1 0 0 3 3 1 Ekholm 25:37 2 1 0 4 2 0 0 Nurse 20:38 2 -1 0 2 1 0 0 Kulak 17:44 1 0 0 0 2 2 2 Stecher 15:45 1 1 0 1 2 0 0 Dermott 13:08 0 -1 2 0 2 1 0 McDavid 25:37 5 0 0 0 0 0 1 Draisaitl 23:53 3 -1 2 0 0 0 1 Nuge 23:05 2 1 0 1 0 0 0 Hyman 21:25 3 1 2 1 0 0 0 Arvidsson 18:50 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 J Skinner 16:57 6 0 0 1 0 2 0 Henrique 13:24 0 -1 0 3 0 1 0 Janmark 11:22 1 -1 0 0 1 0 0 Brown 11:11 0 -1 0 0 0 0 1 Perry 10:41 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 Podkolzin 9:05 1 0 0 1 2 1 1 Ryan 6:13 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 Oilers Faceoff Breakdown: Won Lost Percent Draisaitl 16 6 72.7 Ryan 5 3 71.4 Henrique 4 6 33.3 McDavid 2 7 22.2 Nuge 1 0 100.0 Janmark 1 1 50.0 Brown 1 0 100.0 J Skinner 0 1 0.00 Hurricanes's Faceoff Breakdown: Won Lost Percent Staal 10 10 50.0 Aho 6 6 50.0 Kotkaniemi 4 6 40.0 Roslovic 1 0 100.0 Jarvis 1 3 25.0 Drury 1 3 25.0 Necas 0 1 0.00
Surgery was postponed so here are some stats. Again, I can't watch the games but I can listen to them and do the summary stats. So, 1 for 4 on the PP. It's better than 0 for 4 so it's something. Hurricanes got 1 for 2 so PK still needs a lot of work but on the plus side the boys didn't take a lot of penalties. Edmonton out shot, did better in the faceoff circle, had fewer giveaways (and one less takeaway) and had 2 more blocked shots than Carolina. Having more blocked shots is rare (though it's still a really low number). Oilers scored first and early in both 1st and 2nd periods (2nd person was the PP one) but Connor's first goal got the crowd up I'm sure (bar down shot, effectively a 2 on 1 as a D blew a tire). Third period Carolina got two (first on PP), second at the 13:29 mark. It took a lot of OT for Aho to finally pot the winner. When you look at the numbers above there is a glaring one for me. Bouch playing nearly 1/2 the game (over 28 minutes, I mean brutal), coach has to give him a "get out of bagging it" ticket for that one the next time he makes the players skate with the bag giving him a pass on it. Look, I know the guys are all in shape but you go out there trying to defend and also be offensive, captaining the 1PP (for FOUR power plays) and then play OT you're going to be a bit "fatigued" (politically correct speak for running on empty). While listening to this it was like the Oilers kept shooting themselves in the foot doing bad things they've done before that went away for a little while but crept back into the game as it went on. They had the lead at the end of the 2nd but messed up from there and it got worse. Look, Carolina is a good team but the Oilers should have had 2 points in regulation not 1 point in OT. Take care all.
look closely; lot of Oilers coasting; Drais on that last goal, Nuge & Janmark on the 2nd goal - tried to look like trying but were not trying... Brown out of position.. Knobs does not have them working & is not making sure his players are fresh
Keep watching the Oil (always will...) but not totally enjoying it so far this year. Perhaps my expectations are too high for a +.500 record. Until then, I am enjoying watching the Utah club *(where expectations are not as high). C'mon Oilers. Find your heart.
Oilers best game of the season imo. Stu skinners best game of the season. The canes were just better. Better D, better goaltending, better luck. But the Oilers would win a lot of games with that same game, minus some of the obvious costly blunders. (Janmark doesn't clear, nurse watch's himself get 2 on 1'ed, McD blows the zone when he actually prevented his own D from any chance to clear the puck or get possession of it in Ot). The Pod and Jeff Skinner look legit. Got a point. Fun game to watch and the Oilers are still getting better.
The best PK in hockey, the best PP in hockey, lots of speed, incredible speed, youth, one goal away from winning the stanley cup. So lets gut one of the greatest teams in NHL history and get rid of half of the players on this great team. This is the bowman/jackson plan and they did a great job. Now, the Oilers are just another team.... These traitors, jackson and bowman need to be fired. This is hockey treason.
Very frustrating loss. It feels like they were searching for ways to lose. Stu deserved better! It normally would not matter if we were 30-40-50 games into the season, but it is enraging that how they insist on filling the fanbase with maximum doubt early on. Are we slow? Can we finish? are we tough enough? Do we miss the handful of youth who is knocking it out of the park early this season on other teams? Do McDavid and drai actually hate scoring? Shoot in scoring positions ffs! 97 had 2 or 3 shots n 2 goals. 3rd period. Let’s defer to passing into coverage, why do I want a hatty? Does everybody who is snakebitten thinking passing into the net will eventually be the best strategy! Leon is a hinderance right now. Shit attitude. Terrible passing that occasionally click. Hyman sold his soul to the devil last season. May never score again. Nuge is the undead. I like knobs. But he fail fail FAILED to have this team ready for the season! Preseason was a joke. We lost 1/3 of the team! Teach them the system. Look it sucks we lost the cup but F&@kin wake up! And today was our best game! Haha
actually we have scored 1 more than SJ so far... and have let in 2 less..... so we are slightly ahead of SJ. Plus/Minus tells a lot.... if team is winning or losing vs opponent when on the ice... Stecher is +0 so that is good- and Arvidsson and Perry are +1 -so we have some wonderful individual success's.
David- is getting increasingly rude & basically disinterested.. wanting to wrap up in a bow in a few mins and go on a bike ride or something. Bruce has great insights and most of us like to hear those insights including about players like McLeod & Broberg etc... and amazing stats -they only left recently and is a look at the management etc etc Hoping David rediscovers his patience and passion
Players will not sign certain cards to deny Fans a chance to make money later,but they sign specific ones by their contracts, its really out of control, no respect for the Fans at all.
Why would we want to play Emberson when he’s already better than Nurse some nights? Does he have a no-scratch clause in his contract along with the no-move clause?
This is beginning to look really bad. Oiler management have completely swung the pendulum in the direction of having a veteran laden lineup. Look at the roster there is absolutely no youth in this lineup. The Oiler brain trust completely bungled the management of our youth and we are now fully invested in this veteran squad and early returns do not look good.
This team is not cup contender. They let go foegele,ceci,desharnais its ok but broberg holloway mcleod lavoie big mistake . Jackson prefer perry ryan henrique janmark skinner Arvirdsson.Who do you like more holloway, mcleod at 4.4 millions or skinner, perry at 4.5 millions.
LOL Here's a lesson for you that maybe you will understand. Its the best team at the end of the season that wins the cup, not the best team at the beginning of the season.
The Oilers are missing the youth and speed of Holloway and MacLeod, the speed of Foegele, and the intangibles of Kane. They are also missing Desharnais and Ceci. This team has actually regressed significantly from last year.
If only they had someone whose job was to put together a decent team. That guy would be super popular.
i agree, the team is older and significantly slower and due to the loss of speed their opponents are frequently beating them to the puck.
The Oilers were 2-9-1 last year with all those players in the lineup.
LOL
Excellent observation! Thank you Blowman.
The Oilers top scoring forward McCloud 4 goal.
The Oilers top assist getter Broberg 5.
The Oilers signed 5 forwards over the age of 30 and brought in 3 D that UTAH/Arizona didn't want.
Let that resonate.
coach needs to see Jeff Skinner and Mcdavid need a shot. Skinner is extremely skilled.
‘88 the smallest D was Huddy at 6’0” 200lbs… everyone else was over 6’2” and just as heavy if not heavier. Size at the back end is so crucial especially when we’re talking about 2+ months of gruelling playoff punishment.
Indeed. The oilers could really use a Darian Hatcher.
Long post follows with base game statistics including some for the Carolina Hurricanes. Read, don't read, up to you. These are BASE stats not detailed ones like the Cult of Hockey compiles. My comments and observations at the end.
Statistics for Carolina Hurricanes at Edmonton Oilers October 22nd, 2024
Edmonton Oilers:
McDavid 2 Goals (1 on PP)
Nuge 1 Primary Assist
Draisaitl 1 Primary Assist (PP)
Bouchard 1 Secondary Assist (PP)
S Skinner 27 Saves on 30 Shots = .909 Save %age
Carolina Hurricanes:
Gostisbehere 1 Goal (PP), 1 Secondary Assist (OT Winner)
Necas 1 Goal, 2 Primary Assists (1 on PP, 1 on OT Winner)
Aho 1 Goal (OT Winner)
Robertson 1 Primary Assist
Kotkaniemi 1 Secondary Assist
Andersen 33 Saves on 35 Shots = .943 Save %age (very good)
Hurricanes Oilers
Shots on Goal 33 35
Hits 25 14
Faceoffs Won 23 29
PP 1/2 1/4
Penalty Mins 10 6
Giveaways 21 (19 per NST) 17 (13 per NST)
Takeaways 10 (9 per NST) 9 (8 per NST)
Blocked Shots 13 (10 per NST) 15 (14 per NST)
3 Stars: 3-Aho (1G OT Winner, 1A (PP)), Andersen (.943 Save %age), McDavid (2G, 1 on PP)
Player TOI SOG +/- PIM Hits Blocks Giveaways Takeaways
Bouchard 28:37 5 -1 0 0 3 3 1
Ekholm 25:37 2 1 0 4 2 0 0
Nurse 20:38 2 -1 0 2 1 0 0
Kulak 17:44 1 0 0 0 2 2 2
Stecher 15:45 1 1 0 1 2 0 0
Dermott 13:08 0 -1 2 0 2 1 0
McDavid 25:37 5 0 0 0 0 0 1
Draisaitl 23:53 3 -1 2 0 0 0 1
Nuge 23:05 2 1 0 1 0 0 0
Hyman 21:25 3 1 2 1 0 0 0
Arvidsson 18:50 2 0 0 0 0 0 1
J Skinner 16:57 6 0 0 1 0 2 0
Henrique 13:24 0 -1 0 3 0 1 0
Janmark 11:22 1 -1 0 0 1 0 0
Brown 11:11 0 -1 0 0 0 0 1
Perry 10:41 1 0 0 0 0 1 0
Podkolzin 9:05 1 0 0 1 2 1 1
Ryan 6:13 0 0 0 0 0 2 0
Oilers Faceoff Breakdown:
Won Lost Percent
Draisaitl 16 6 72.7
Ryan 5 3 71.4
Henrique 4 6 33.3
McDavid 2 7 22.2
Nuge 1 0 100.0
Janmark 1 1 50.0
Brown 1 0 100.0
J Skinner 0 1 0.00
Hurricanes's Faceoff Breakdown:
Won Lost Percent
Staal 10 10 50.0
Aho 6 6 50.0
Kotkaniemi 4 6 40.0
Roslovic 1 0 100.0
Jarvis 1 3 25.0
Drury 1 3 25.0
Necas 0 1 0.00
Surgery was postponed so here are some stats. Again, I can't watch the games but I can listen to them and do the summary stats.
So, 1 for 4 on the PP. It's better than 0 for 4 so it's something. Hurricanes got 1 for 2 so PK still needs a lot of work but on the plus side the boys didn't take a lot of penalties.
Edmonton out shot, did better in the faceoff circle, had fewer giveaways (and one less takeaway) and had 2 more blocked shots than Carolina. Having more blocked shots is rare (though it's still a really low number). Oilers scored first and early in both 1st and 2nd periods (2nd person was the PP one) but Connor's first goal got the crowd up I'm sure (bar down shot, effectively a 2 on 1 as a D blew a tire). Third period Carolina got two (first on PP), second at the 13:29 mark. It took a lot of OT for Aho to finally pot the winner.
When you look at the numbers above there is a glaring one for me. Bouch playing nearly 1/2 the game (over 28 minutes, I mean brutal), coach has to give him a "get out of bagging it" ticket for that one the next time he makes the players skate with the bag giving him a pass on it. Look, I know the guys are all in shape but you go out there trying to defend and also be offensive, captaining the 1PP (for FOUR power plays) and then play OT you're going to be a bit "fatigued" (politically correct speak for running on empty).
While listening to this it was like the Oilers kept shooting themselves in the foot doing bad things they've done before that went away for a little while but crept back into the game as it went on. They had the lead at the end of the 2nd but messed up from there and it got worse. Look, Carolina is a good team but the Oilers should have had 2 points in regulation not 1 point in OT. Take care all.
look closely; lot of Oilers coasting; Drais on that last goal, Nuge & Janmark on the 2nd goal - tried to look like trying but were not trying... Brown out of position.. Knobs does not have them working & is not making sure his players are fresh
Keep watching the Oil (always will...) but not totally enjoying it so far this year. Perhaps my expectations are too high for a +.500 record. Until then, I am enjoying watching the Utah club *(where expectations are not as high). C'mon Oilers. Find your heart.
Oilers best game of the season imo. Stu skinners best game of the season. The canes were just better. Better D, better goaltending, better luck. But the Oilers would win a lot of games with that same game, minus some of the obvious costly blunders. (Janmark doesn't clear, nurse watch's himself get 2 on 1'ed, McD blows the zone when he actually prevented his own D from any chance to clear the puck or get possession of it in Ot). The Pod and Jeff Skinner look legit. Got a point. Fun game to watch and the Oilers are still getting better.
i noticed on the other team's powerplay they are easily passing through the seam this has been happening every game so far
yes, Oilers have become older and slower and can't make the play anymore it seems.
The best PK in hockey, the best PP in hockey, lots of speed, incredible speed, youth, one goal away from winning the stanley cup. So lets gut one of the greatest teams in NHL history and get rid of half of the players on this great team. This is the bowman/jackson plan and they did a great job. Now, the Oilers are just another team.... These traitors, jackson and bowman need to be fired. This is hockey treason.
Get well, Bruce!!
Very frustrating loss. It feels like they were searching for ways to lose. Stu deserved better! It normally would not matter if we were 30-40-50 games into the season, but it is enraging that how they insist on filling the fanbase with maximum doubt early on. Are we slow? Can we finish? are we tough enough? Do we miss the handful of youth who is knocking it out of the park early this season on other teams?
Do McDavid and drai actually hate scoring? Shoot in scoring positions ffs! 97 had 2 or 3 shots n 2 goals. 3rd period. Let’s defer to passing into coverage, why do I want a hatty?
Does everybody who is snakebitten thinking passing into the net will eventually be the best strategy!
Leon is a hinderance right now. Shit attitude. Terrible passing that occasionally click. Hyman sold his soul to the devil last season. May never score again. Nuge is the undead.
I like knobs. But he fail fail FAILED to have this team ready for the season! Preseason was a joke. We lost 1/3 of the team! Teach them the system.
Look it sucks we lost the cup but F&@kin wake up!
And today was our best game!
Haha
I hope Knoblauch’s resume is up to date. He’s been out-coached and out-prepared all season.
actually we have scored 1 more than SJ so far... and have let in 2 less..... so we are slightly ahead of SJ.
Plus/Minus tells a lot.... if team is winning or losing vs opponent when on the ice... Stecher is +0 so that is good-
and Arvidsson and Perry are +1 -so we have some wonderful individual success's.
David- is getting increasingly rude & basically disinterested.. wanting to wrap up in a bow in a few mins and go on a bike ride or something. Bruce has great insights and most of us like to hear those insights including about players like McLeod & Broberg etc... and amazing stats -they only left recently and is a look at the management etc etc Hoping David rediscovers his patience and passion
Mcdavid is still an offensive demon but the celebration looked so disinterested. His defense is bad to say the least
Entertaining game but couldn’t close it out. The guys have to get serious soon because there will be no repeat winning streak like last year.
I'm currently in line for the leon autograph session. So many people coughing and sniffing around me. Disgusting..
Players will not sign certain cards to deny Fans a chance to make money later,but they sign specific ones by their contracts, its really out of control, no respect for the Fans at all.
Why would we want to play Emberson when he’s already better than Nurse some nights? Does he have a no-scratch clause in his contract along with the no-move clause?
Man am I ever sick of this lack of results team
Time to flip the Coach, bring in Quenville.
Fire the coach. It works every time.
This is beginning to look really bad. Oiler management have completely swung the pendulum in the direction of having a veteran laden lineup. Look at the roster there is absolutely no youth in this lineup. The Oiler brain trust completely bungled the management of our youth and we are now fully invested in this veteran squad and early returns do not look good.
Their defense sucks. They can always fire the coach again.
Old old oilers
Team is awful Again Cant even watch them till Dec
People don't honestly think this team is capable of winning 16 in a row to dig themselves out of the hole right.
Nope
This team is not cup contender. They let go foegele,ceci,desharnais its ok but broberg holloway mcleod lavoie big mistake . Jackson prefer perry ryan henrique janmark skinner Arvirdsson.Who do you like more holloway, mcleod at 4.4 millions or skinner, perry at 4.5 millions.
LOL Here's a lesson for you that maybe you will understand. Its the best team at the end of the season that wins the cup, not the best team at the beginning of the season.
Fire the coach 🙃🤔
2 of the best players in hockey, and got nothing to show for ... oh well, waiting for a new head coach in Nov.!
🤣🤣😂😂
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Overrated team that overachieved last year.
LOL