Zoom SSH-6 Stereo Shotgun Microphone Capsule Review
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- Опубликовано: 19 фев 2018
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Great review! You were honestly the only channel I could find that did a straightforward review of this mic
Thank you for a review that did exactly what I needed! Practical comparison to several other mics, some good pro's and con's, and generally a good thorough look on how it works without getting too deep into technicalities. Just bought the H6 recorder with the MSH- and XYH-mics included, and needed to know what the SSH would/wouldn't add to the mix :-)
Excellent review - thanks! Answered all my questions!
No worries at all! Glad to have helped!
Loved it, very clear and helpful! Thanks
A really useful review ~ Thanks for sharing!
thanks, considering buying one of these and found this very helpful
Glad i could help! Hope you enjoy!
The SSH-6 feels volumetric, I mean I know its a directional mic, but you can hear distances. Really cool!!!
Great review! Subbed & liked. Keep em coming!
Fabulous review, just what I was looking for. Thank you for posting. I've used my H5 for years with the default stereo capsule, and have been pretty happy. I think you've answered the question of whether I'll invest in the SSH-6.
I've had good results with a little cheap Boya branded shock mount for my H5 with the standard capsule. It was not a lot of money, I got it on amazon.
Really useful video - many thanks for making the video.
Just a tip people may or may not find useful! Mid/Side recording is only two microphones, not a mono plus stereo pair. The side mic is simply what they call a figure-8 microphone, meaning it picks up sound equally from both directions. The mid mic can be anything, really. Instead of Left/Right channels like in XY stereo, each channel is Mid/Side. That means you can record your side signal fully and decide in post whether to use it or not simply by using an M/S plugin in your DAW or NLE, or you can use the app that Zoom has available as well. Not great for people who don't edit in post, but if you are syncing your audio back to video or mixing it in post, chances are you have an M/S decoder in your software!
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Auto Gain is already available on your Zoom Recorder.
Great review. Thanks for putting the mic to the test.
Keir Wells glad you found it useful! Thanks for watching 😊 do you have one?
@@georgeholliday123 No, I don't have one as yet. I have the Zoom H5N (and Zoom H1, of course). In my work as a radio correspondent, though, a mic of this sort is definitely something I need to get in order to pull in the speaker without all the noise "off to the side". Once I get it, I'll share my thoughts with you.
Keir Wells please do! Glad this helped with some decision making 😊
Great review man really helpful. Looking at upgrading to this set up.
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George Holliday thanks for the quick reply ! If my camera is not a dslr and i record directly in the h5. Can it be done and then synchronised during editing ?
No worries, i'm sat here editing and you pinged up! Yep, in fact, although my DSLR can record with it, I do them seperately and sync them afterwards using the Syncronisation function in Premiere Pro although im' sure most editing software does it
Thanks for the video and samples - IMHO, the SSH-6 sounds good.
Yeah i love using it. And in most situations, you can't really tell the difference much anyway, it's all about how you capture the audio!
The quality of the ssh6 is amazing. Better than any zoom mic I have tried.
awesome thanx...just what i wanted to know.....
Great review, appreciate it George. I'm eyeing the Zoom F1 with this mic and this was really helpful. I think I'm with you, the SSH-6 has a warmer more well rounded tone compared to the Rode's sort of one-dimensional tone.
Yeah i love the sound of it for these types of videos, I really do! Glad you enjoyed the review and happy you found it useful mate!
Great Video, gives a really nice insight of this little fella. I have the H5 with the xy mic only but want to capture more directional sound. Kind of like a run and gun Foley Recorder. With the xy mic it seems that I have to turn up the mic volume to 8 and above nearly every time to get loud enough sound. Is this better with the directional one? Can you recall what Audio Level you put the Zoom Mic on when comparing it to the RøDE inside?
Thanks in advance!
I’ve got it on the Q8. Works great.
Nice video man!! Looks nice. curious to see comparison between SSH-6 and rode RODE NTG3 or 4 😉
The SSH-6 is by far warmer with a more full-bodied tone. Its definitely the superior mic for mono voices.
Definitely agree!
great vid very interesting. I'm looking at upgrading my gear for videos so i'll be taking a look. Any 'LIGHTS' you can suggest? Thanks George
I'm sure you've figured it out but the F1 recorder includes a camera shock mount in the kit and you can pop your SSH onto that recorder as well.
Well that's a good review for voice recording, do do have a capsule review for music recording?
Yup prefer the ssh6. Also remember the price of it needs to include price of the h5 if you don't already own one. Great review. Thanks!
I really appreciate this review of SSH-6.... Well done. What I'd really like not see is a comparison of the SSH6 and SGH6.... In looking around online I think the SGH-6 sounds better than RodeVMPR.... But really want to compare SSH6 and SGH6. Thanks
Hey George, thanks for the insightful video. Could you please speak about the self-noise (hiss) of the SSH 6 compared to the XY mic? I recently purchased SSH6, and I find that it is a lot noisier than its XY mic. Can you please confirm? Thanks.
Nice review. I will get one as well for my Sony Alpha A7iii.
Tino Baerhold it will work great with that camera, perfect!
Loved your video! Some quick feedback, I think you'd achieve slightly better audio quality by turning the midside mics down slightly. The stereo effect is overpowering with the settings you used at the tail end of your video. Also, you should check out the new Zoom F1 -- it's a mini-recorder that works with their mic pods, and it comes with a lovely shockmount!
Thanks for this feedback! There is one point i forgot to turn the mid side off, i was a novice using this at the time haha. But it was actually good to make that mistake for me to learn from it so i'm glad your ear picked up on it! Ooooo definitely going to look into that, thank you!
Are you using the Rode mic on-camera? If so, the camera audio pre-amps may have something to do with the inferior sound quality coming from the Rode? In either case, I absolutely prefer the SSH/H6 recorder combo.
Thank You very very much from Russia. Good video
so recording with xy mic will not be able to reduce noise for interview needs, so we will still need a shotgun mic, right?
I need to document/record noise that is produced by an HVAC (Air Conditioner) while it is running from about 8 ft away. I tried to record the noise with my phone, but the recording is not clear and the recording does not sound like when you hear the noise in person. Should a mic be used with this recorder to capture the noise? If yes, which mic is recommended? Perhaps a (directional) boom mic? I might use the Zoom H6 recorder.
I might try using the Zoom SSH-6 Stereo Shotgun Microphone Capsule with Hairy Windscreen with it. I thought about the Rode NTG5, but that is a bit out of the budget that I want to spend.
Do you think the new Zoom ME is just as good if not better in audio quality?
There's also the zoom F1 which has a shockmount. Also think that has an auto gain option, not 100% sure if that's compatible with the SSH-6.
Auto gain on the mic?? I appreciate the video review and the samples man, also your energy is tops. But it pays to know the industry a bit better. Auto gain is without fail the worst thing you could ask for in the professional audio realm. There's nothing worse than losing your control of levels because a computer is trying to decide what you want. By fluctuating your gain level, your noise floor becomes inconsistent so post processing/use of the recordings will be almost impossible to work with.
hi Andrew! Thank you! I think for recording samples for music and production, and in terms of interviewing somebody professionally in a controlled environment, I fully agree with you! But when I have the auto gain on my Canon, I feel it does it really well for on the fly stuff like vlogs, and when I'm working in the music industry in and out of loud environments, adjusting the volume literally every few minutes is the last thing i want to do on the fly, so to have that option would be so useful. It's also really frustrating when i have the levels set perfectly, with plenty of headroom, and then something loud will happen in some of the environments i'm in, and the audio is completely ruined. I appreciate that's a bit of a unique environment, but to have the option for on the fly stuff would be so valuable to somebody like myself in extreme volume environments. Like I say though, I do fully agree with you for the majority of uses, and hope this makes sense 😃
George Holliday I see what your saying but I think Better knowledge of audio engineering will save your difficulty in this. Audio files from recorders like this come with huge detail with infinite headroom. Basically as long as you’ve captured your audio, with the right dynamics processing in post, you can set yourself up with a one click fix that will automatically subdue the hottest peaks whilst raising the floor, so you get a unified, even sound with a prescribed dynamic range that you choose. I’d look into it mate. Auto gain can devastate a recording if there’s some anomaly that causes an intense duck or boost. Even for run and gun stuff. You can create yourself a preset in your favourite dynamics processor/compressor/limiter that’ll be purpose specific to dialogue, ambient, SFX or something and you only need to do it once.
I promise you, not only will you make your life easier, you’ll have a more professional output.
Andrew Northover I gotta come to George’s defends in this. I too come from an audio recording background and now do film. And I do everything myself. I agree, controlling gains etc myself is first choice especially for recording music, BUT, a case in point my recent video was recording by someone else on my gear. He knew enough to get by but it was so much easier have an auto feature to get the job done and rather worry about things like planning our shots and for me to rather practice my performance. And then in run and gun situations I always use the auto gain feature.
@@adinwalls Doesn't it turns on the particulars? I've had autogain ruin footage (making me glad for redundant content at capture), and I've had autogain work just fine, thus skipping some (very quick) postprocessing. In work for a less critical audience, and with reasonably consistent and strong volume sources, autogain seems fine. But for challenging work, like orchestra or concert pianist in noisy backgrounds (HVAC, audience rustling, strong RF sources) static gain seems safer. And running a compressor & dynamics processor in post is *so* quick. Finally, digital noise reduction is already such a crapshoot; I net out underwater audio way too often. Anything that fuels that result seems toxic.
Nevertheless, a built-in compressor can be enabled per input on the Zoom.
Are there any videos anywhere of someone using this to record a live band? Please post if you do. I've watched video after video and can't find anything even remotely like that. Thanks.
cool!
I use the SSH6 a lot, but in quiet environments I get a "rushing" noise in the background (which I didn't hear in your demo). Were you able to cleanly remove it? Or did you not have it at all? I would really appreciate the help.
Good question! I do have that hiss in there sometimes yeah, I think it’s a power thing more than anything because I notice it less when the power is plugged in, couldn’t say if that’s just my unit though.
A bit of EQ or light noise gating gets rid of it to an unnoticeable degree. A lot of the things I do for video also have some kind of music/soundtrack to, and that masks quite a lot of noise. Hope that’s helpful!
Hey George, I have a Zoom H5 Handy Recorder with a SGH-6 Shotgun mic. I am not able to figure out how to go to the menu at 02:45 where you show how to reduce the level of the side mics. Even if I use the "scroller" on the left side of the device it doesn't work. Have you changed any other settings additionally? Basically I only want to use the directional mic not the side mics. Hope you can help me out with this!
Oooo I can’t say I have changed any. Those settings I’m sure came like that! You’re using the little click switch thing right?
Hi there, thanks for your video. If you attached the SSH-6 to a zoom Q8, can you control the amount of ambient mic you are getting as well? What about with the H6? Thank you
I'm not sure about the Q8 unfortunately, but with the H6 you can yes!
I have the rode video mic pro, and it is a wind magnet even with a deadcat. Is the zoom mic as wind sensitive?
I don’t find it to be, but different kind of dead cat on these than the rode
Great testing. The SSH-6 is a very under rated shotgun mic, probably because the SGH-6 is really bad and no one gives the SSH-6 a look thinking it's a similar mic.
Have you considered Decaf?
What would you guys recommend for a mic I could record with outside as a guitar and singing mic, and potentially use as a mic for abelton? H6?
Hmmmm that's a good question. TBF, for outside recording if you wanted to capture a live performance i'd say this! It's a really great mic, for indoor home recording i'd use the Aston Spirit - I've done a recent comparison with those mics. You could, I guess, get a wind shield to go over the Spirit for outside as well, but it's less directional than this mic here :)
Hi ! I have a quick question, if you ever read this, about that microphone shotgun : do you know if it's possible to connect it to a camera, so that it would replace the camera's microphone ? Thanks, like !
It is yessss, but because it’s so long it’s hard to get it out of shot if you have it mounted
movo makes a shock mount for H6 & H5 that goes onto a camera
I've heard they're quite expensive as mounts, but i'm going to look further into this and see if i can review one!
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HAHHAA i love this comment. Up there with one of my favourites!
I 2nd this -
Heard "...and you're Earl Grey...", and thought it was fantastically British. Even more so than old ones like "...and Bob's your uncle".
I frankly don't get the point of this mic. I actually ordered it, and then returned it immediately when I found out that what you call "the side mics" are actually a single figure eight mic that outputs to a single track. So there goes the idea of front/side recording, which seems like a weird idea with a shotgun anyway. And who would want to blend in noise that you tried to eliminate or at least minimize by using a shotgun mic? It's an odd contraption.
What headphones you are using when monitoring audio from Zoo? Cheers mate!
I use Bose ones or my music in ears, usually. Generally, as noise cancelling as possible, the better!
hello I own the regular sgh-6 and the audio is not clear its like has no echo I don't know how to explain more detail its like you cover your ears and the person starts talking do you have any idea how I can fix that because I don't wanna spend 149 more for this stereo shotgun mic please help
hmm, have you got a wind shield over it? It might be worth taking to the shop you got it as it might be fault?
Also Q8 compatible
Hi! Great content. What about this shotgun mic for music recording? I have an H5 and love it, but I plan to record acoustic live performances of individual musicians in the streets. Do you think this is a good option?
Yes I use it for exactly this! Search Made On The Road RUclips channel. It’s been a while since I released one but you’ll hear what it’s like
@@georgeholliday123 what a great surprise watching your other videos. We are a Brazilian family, living in Portugal since 2017. We love music and play some instruments. Yes... we make some noise. My son (17 years now) started making some live shows in bars and restaurants 2020 and started studying music production. I make videos and we are planning to build a studio in a motor home. By now it is just an idea, but it is great to know that someone has done it already. I will see the rest of your videos. Congratulations on your initiative.
Thank you, and good luck! Definitely do it!
is it compatible with h8?
Hey George. Sub buddies... same number of subs 🤦🏽♀️ great vid. I’m seriously considering this device with the shotgun option.
I’ve literally used it today, and still love it just as much!!!!
George Holliday okay great. I like it because it doubles as an audio interface and I’m almost exclusively on my iPad Pro these days so a super compact multi purpose device will suite me well. I’m also doing vlogumentary style vids more and more and I love my video mic pro plus but a proper shotgun feels like the next step.
Hi I play piano myself but I struggle to find good free sheet music. Do you have any suggestions for any sites.
Hi Domen, I'm afraid i don't know of any websites that have free sheet music :/
If you're interested in Jazz Standards, there's the Reel Books as a PDF online with thousands of charts, but i'm not sure if that's what you are after? I downloaded it on my ipad and use it on the go sometimes :)
06:07 - I really enjoyed this moment.
Wait, me scratching the mic? 😂
Hi George, thanks a lot for this review. I have this exact setup with H5 and SGH-6, and I've tried to adjust side levels like you showed but my unit won't react to that. Nothing happens when I move it up or down, either in stereo mix or multiple, with MS matrix turned on and off, in raw...nothing happens. What could be the reason? Please help! Thanks.!
Did you solve this mate? Sorry I didn’t see!
@@georgeholliday123 No. :(
The SGH-6 is a mono microphone, while the SSH-6 featured in this video is a stereo (mid-side) microphone. The MS controls will not have any effect when used with the SGH-6 because this mic only delivers a mono signal to the H5.
@@gavinrough Thank you for this clarification.
Well spotted on the model! I didn’t even clock that
I've tested SSH6 and it has loud self noise. If you want to record loud music it is great microfone, but nit for voice
How did you test it? I've found that the headphone output on the zoom h5 is super noisy, but that noise is not apparent on recordings.
Hi! Great video. The question is: what kind of indoor and outdoor lighting do you use in this video? The one you have looks fancy.
Haha! It's a Numer i think it's called, not expensive, just a ring light from amazon 😃 Thanks for watching!
I just bought a H5 along with SSH-6. I followed your demonstration，turn off the mid side mic. I mean I just want to use it under top directional mic mode. But I still could heard the sound from the side when I wear my headphone with the mid mic off. I wonder the sound from the mid mic still went into the recording. Or it is just showed in the headphone but wouldn‘t be recorded？
Could you help me？
--Alex from China
Hey Alex - I don't have the SSH-6 but pretty confident that even the single directional shotgun mic capsule has a 'supercardiod' polar pattern... meaning it rejects a lot of sounds coming from off-axis, but definitely not 100%. So I'm not surprised you could still hear sounds from the side at least somewhat. There should be good falloff though with much lower levels for the sounds in front of the mic vs the sides.
@@MattJacques Thanks for your explanation. I
Excellent bro, thanks for the review. I'll probably be looking at getting one of these for my set up soon. I would rather have a doer's opinion then a "professional" opinion anyway. Pros can have all their weird preferences that they get incestuously from being too encapsulated in their own quirky culture instead of knowing what matters and sounds good to the average Joe
Nice! Ultimately, the story counts more than anything. You’ll never beat the professional’s opinion, but you can always beat a good storyline! Haha have fun with it!
Can zoom lavalier mic be attached with zoom H5 recorder? Thanks
Yes. You plug it into the 3.5mm jack on the side of the capsule, and then select "plugin power" from the menu, and turn it on. And that's actually a better way to record dialog from one person, honestly. You'll typically get much better audio than futzing around with much more expensive mics and windscreens.
It's the best mic I've ever used in the Zoom line up for the adapters, even tried the XY and round one. I used it for a podcast type of setup for product reviews, even over the Rode Vid micro + or the new Vid NTG. Once I added a POP filter, it's gold. Even tried the F1(screen is just not the best but same audio outcome), but the readouts on the H-6 is great for recording talent in front of you in color. The clarity is just incredible for bang for your buck.
So much more informative than Zoom's POS useless feckery website. Between you and Ken Rockwell I'll be getting the Grey version, because the >ZOMG 2020 Black< is just a crass marketing ploy to sell a new case colour with the same guts for more money with less accessories. I did think the RODE had a fuller sound, even on my lame tablet speakers, but that's what more viewers are going to listen through, little drivers with the narrow bandwidth of Humphrey Bogart's telephone, instead of reference drivers in some audiophile's temple o' exquisite sound. Thank ya just all ta pieces and stay safe!
the diff between the rode and the ssh6 is huge
Great review! Does it need phantom power?
Nope you can have battery power or plug-in via usb 😁
@@georgeholliday123 Thanks for your reply👍
Why don’t you just use the compressor of the zoom, if you want to reduce dynamics?
Compressing the audio and reducing the volume is a very different thing if you’re wanting to edit your audio afterwards. Compressing will basically squash the audio and if you do it too much it can sound really unnatural. If you turn the volume down then you can always compress when editing afterwards 😁
I actually read a comment below that the predecessor of this microphone doesn't have an echo and that's why it's bad. Guys, you don't want an echo from your directional microphone. you don't want a directional microphone to record anything except the thing that you pointed it at. You said that you liked this microphone over the other one because you feel a bit more and you feel the room but that's exactly the opposite of what you want from a directional microphone. You are a lovely guy and I enjoyed your interview and your heart is in the right place but youhave no idea what you're talking about. That's why you need an audio engineer and a professional in the field to make reviews of a equipment that is supposed to be a professional equipment that supposed to do a specific job. And your review can influence people to make a wrong decision. I enjoyed it and gave it a thumbs up and it actually hurts me to be negative but dude please inform yourself about directional microphones and what they're supposed to do and then delete this video. Now it's clear to me that Zoom created this microphone for people that don't necessarily need a professional directional microphone and we'll make a decision based on what sounds better right out of the box and then when you need to put it in your student film you have a lot of background and you cannot do anything in post. You want to put audio atmosphere with sounds that you want to pick but you cannot because you hear the street and birds chirping and who knows what else and then you realize that you really don't need those stereo microphones you only need a directional microphone and you waste your money.
I do not have one of these nor am I a professional, but I've watched a few videos on this mic and I believe the side mics recordings can be eliminated or raised in post depending on what you are going for, separately from the front mic recording. If that is indeed the case, is this mic still a bad choice based on your reply? Just curious, I'm still trying to educate myself about these things.
This is also Q8 compatible ?
Yes! Sorry for the late response.. I was just wondering the same. No idea how to adjust the mid side mics on a Q8 tho
I'm pretty sure you can use the compressor in the h5 to "auto-balance" your levels
SSH6 sounds so much better!
I strongly agree the ssh6 is much better !!
What camera u use?
panos J Canon M3 😊
Haitch 5
When did Jack Whitehall start doing RUclips reviews? Well, whatever keeps him off the smack - keep strong Jack!
hahahaha!
I keep commenting on his Instagram to get him to see it too! 😂
Gud sound mic compared to sgh-6
Yeah it's miles better!
not VOLUME ... but input gain
Sounds like ssh has mor sibalence
H5 is terrible when using xlr on phantom power the battery lasts five minutes. No reviewers mentioned that thanks
Ah mines pretty good on battery! I rarely change my batteries!
a.co/6VjnPOu this is a shock mount
great mic.
rode video mic is bad
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