D96 any different to Rodinal? KODAK 5222 (DOUBLE X) Motion Picture Film in these two developers.

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  • Опубликовано: 2 янв 2025

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  • @danem2215
    @danem2215 Год назад +3

    Really enjoy car shows on film. Been to a few this year and got some great results. Nothing is better than a photogenic, inanimate object when you're too nervous for portraiture.

  • @cabbelos
    @cabbelos Год назад +3

    The light leak is from the window on the back door of the camera. Your respooled film has a laminated sticker, and the laminated layer can pipe light from the window to inside of the camera. The fogging is where the edge of the film canister was while you were exposing the previous frame in the film gate. Put a piece of opaque tape over the window next time you use this film.

    • @ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      @ShootFilmLikeaBoss  Год назад

      Now that is an interesting point! But the sticker seems no more shinier than an FP4 I am looking at the two right now. Maybe because of the extra thickness (sticker on top of already labeled cassette). Also the other roll was fine.

    • @cabbelos
      @cabbelos Год назад

      @@ShootFilmLikeaBoss A cine film respooler I have used had to change their labels because of this issue, they said that it was due to the type of clear UV coating on their labels piping light from the rear window. So while I could still be pulling all this out of my arse, this kind of light leak is not completely unprecendented.

  • @MrStorBjorn
    @MrStorBjorn Год назад +3

    I've encountered similar issues when shooting Vision 3 and XX film rolled from 400ft reels.
    My understanding is that it originates from reused cassettes that are no longer completely light-tight where the film comes out of the cassette. This could lead to light leaks in the confirmation window at the back of the camera. This explanation might also account for why you're not experiencing this on both rolls and in all of the photos.
    I always tape up the window when using this type of film.
    Great video as always!

  • @liveinaweorg
    @liveinaweorg Год назад +2

    I bet some slide film would have been brilliant on those bright coloured cars. Love the results from the XX.

  • @BarwickGreen
    @BarwickGreen Год назад

    Lovely to get a mention, and it was fantastic to visit you. My wife was also very pleased to see all the Morris Minor cars! The "dog bone" escort came out really well.

  • @jrnovosel
    @jrnovosel Год назад +2

    XX is my favorite BW film. I bought a 400ft roll and spool down onto my bulk loader. I usually use HC-110 (b) with no issues but haven't tried D96 yet. D96 looks easy to make yourself.

    • @ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      @ShootFilmLikeaBoss  Год назад +1

      Well done you for taking the 400ft and spooling it down! D96 does look easy to make. Cheers

  • @mattdyer9544
    @mattdyer9544 Год назад +3

    Another great video, It would be interesting to see a comparison of the classic style Kodak developers namely D23, D76, and D96. Bulk loaded from 400ft 36 exposures of Double X is around £3 which is amazing value for such a quality Kodak stock in 2023.

    • @ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      @ShootFilmLikeaBoss  Год назад

      I have used Cinestill in D23. Nice results.

    • @vonantero9458
      @vonantero9458 Год назад

      Where are you getting Double X that cheap? Kodak has it listed at 315€ at 0% VAT for 400tf.
      You get 72 rolls out of that, making it around 4,40€ before tax. With shipping and tax, we're talking around 6€ or £5 per roll of 36

  • @mrbwa1
    @mrbwa1 Год назад +4

    Very interesting comparison. I have used D96 a few times and it seems best suited to movie films. It looks really good with Fuji 4791 and it looks good here on the Double X.
    As for the light leak, I think it was probably when the film was rolled as you didn't see if on the second roll in the same conditions. Usually a leak in that position is at the door seal or where the tap is to reset the film counter. If it was the camera, you should have at least small leaks on the edges of the other roll.

    • @ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      @ShootFilmLikeaBoss  Год назад +1

      Thats what stumped me! No leaks on the second roll or the roll I shot on the bike. Both in same bright conditions.

    • @klofisch
      @klofisch Год назад +1

      What the heck...................... Fuji 4791...now i need to get it......f*cking rabbit holes :D

  • @rickdeckard4434
    @rickdeckard4434 Год назад +2

    On the negatives shown at 10:41 you can see the light leak on allmost every shot, sometimes less prominent, but it's there. In very bright sunlight, stray light could enter through the viewfinder, I had it on different occasions with dslr's when I didn't hold the camera close to my eye. So maybe?

  • @erikboon6549
    @erikboon6549 Год назад +1

    Regarding the light leaks, I would suspect the felt of the cartridge. I had the same issue with a reloadable cartridge as well.

  • @scottplumer3668
    @scottplumer3668 Год назад +2

    I had some light leaks on my Canon AE-1 a few years ago on one roll, but they never showed again on subsequent rolls. I reckon I might have got something stuck in the door, like maybe the seal itself got a bit wonky and leaked a bit. I just chalk it up to using an old camera, though it has led to some happy accidents. One of my favorite photos I ever took had a light leak.

    • @ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      @ShootFilmLikeaBoss  Год назад +1

      Thats one thing I keep trying to think of also if I got something stuck in the door and didn't realise. It's very possible!

  • @stigofthedump4058
    @stigofthedump4058 Год назад +1

    I do love a bit of Double X, nice results Roger, I think you'd enjoy it in your D-23 too (I go with 7mins in stock or 7min 30sec in replenished) both low contrast developers, so maybe there's something in that. Ref the light leak, I've experienced that sort of thing with re-rolled film too, they're usually good, but now and then you might get one.

  • @bobmorr2892
    @bobmorr2892 Год назад

    Film and developing is too expensive. A buck or two a shot, or about 3 bucks if you're using a Polaroid I guess. It's a bummer I remember the good old days when I didn't even think about how much it was costing me. Really enjoyed the video.

  • @malcsayer7133
    @malcsayer7133 Год назад

    Sunday morning fix... set me up for next week. Love those old car pictures, in fact love old cars which is why I dive an old e46 8o miles every day. Like your air con, better than mine.... tea coaster attached to the thing on the end of my arm 😅.
    P.S that's another film for me to try when I jack in work 😁

  • @carltanner9065
    @carltanner9065 Год назад

    I have some D96 laying about somewhere. I'll have to try this one out!!

  • @largophoto
    @largophoto Год назад

    😜 a great comparison ...I got to run all that Arista through ..but got held up with the storm n stuff ...about 2 months behind you ...

  • @affepost8520
    @affepost8520 Год назад

    Excellent...I forgot the SD Card ...

  • @IainHC1
    @IainHC1 Год назад +2

    The rounded sprocket holes are to stop taering the fillum at higher movie speeds. There are no sharp corners in the sprockets because a sharp corner is a weak point..... Just like ship portholes are round and you will never see a sharp corner in a ship's door either..... Because sharp corners fail under stress.

    • @ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      @ShootFilmLikeaBoss  Год назад +1

      Busted! Cheers mate. Planes too then!

    • @IainHC1
      @IainHC1 Год назад

      🤣😂 Sorry m8 😆🤐​@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss

    • @IainHC1
      @IainHC1 Год назад

      yup @@ShootFilmLikeaBoss

  • @qnetx
    @qnetx Год назад

    When I use Rodinal on XX at 1:50, I process it for 9 min @ 20 Deg. C and yes I also see lots of grain. If I don’t want the grain, I will process it in Ilford DDX at 1:4 for 7 minutes @ 20 Deg. C. I very much enjoy XX especially for the contrast.

  • @jimpurcell
    @jimpurcell Год назад

    Thanks! The film looks awesome!

  • @minisla
    @minisla Год назад

    Brilliant stuff. Some lovely images

  • @srfurley
    @srfurley Год назад

    In the earliest days perforations were not standardised; each camera maker designed their own. The Bell and Howell type was the first to be Standardised; it was used both for camera stocks and for cinema release prints. It gives very accurate registration, and so a very steady image on screen, but has a problem. The sharp corners where the flat top and bottom meet the curved sides can act as crack starters, and prints did not stand up well to many passes through the projector. Surviving prints with BH perforations nearly always have cracks in the corners. The Kodak Standard perforations avoided this problem by having the corners and are used on prints, but camera negatives and intermediates still use BH perforations, except in Russia where negatives also use BH. There were two other shapes of perforations, DH which I think were used for Technicolor dye transfer printing, they were similar to KS but with very slightly reduced height. CS perforations were smaller, almost square, and were used on CinemaScope prints with four track magnetic sound stripes in the 1950s-70s. This is all for 35 mm, 65 mm negatives use KS perforations.
    Cinema negative and intermediate stocks have very slightly reduced perforation pitch, but this makes no difference for still photography. It’s only a few ten thousandths of an inch difference between standard and short pitch.

    • @ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      @ShootFilmLikeaBoss  Год назад

      Thanks for the interesting read.

    • @srfurley
      @srfurley Год назад

      @@ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      I made an error in it. In Russia KS perforations are used for both perforations are used for both negatives and prints, not BH ones.

  • @joseerazevedo
    @joseerazevedo Год назад

    Ah! We share the same A/C brand on the darkroom! Nice!
    I believe the light leaks are more related to the film than to the the camera. Maybe who loaded it did something wrong. Or even the small velour on th cartridge wasn't that fine. The rolls after this came fine, so that leads me to this conclusion

  • @ajbrennan6456
    @ajbrennan6456 Год назад

    having shed loads of 400ft tins of film in the film fridge.
    I tend to leave the majority of the film on the original reel and just take about 50ft off at a time and bag it. and I no longer use bulk loaders, I just roughly pull out 3.5 ft of film and hand roll it wearing gloves (don't have the issues I had in the past) tell old mate to take a film camera out...he has the eye 🙂

  • @lesl2944
    @lesl2944 Год назад

    Great video ! I shoot a lot of Double X in HC110 stand, love this film!
    As for light leak, did you figure it out? They can be maddening !

  • @nickdavis6391
    @nickdavis6391 Год назад +1

    I find that 5222 works best in ID11 or D76. The negatives are a joy to behold, just the right balance of contrast and grain.

  • @francoismassin8649
    @francoismassin8649 Год назад

    Great picture Roger, despite the full sun
    Your list of all the different brands proposing the same film intrigued me. So I searched a bit
    There's quite a price difference between tha brands but also a difference of ISO. Which is bizarre if it's the same film
    Kodak XX 5222 is 320, Silberra is 200 and Orwo Wolfen UN54 is 100
    Orwo UN54 (Lomography Potsdam Kino also for that matter) is known to be a cinema film, but most probably not a Kodak one

    • @douwekrooshof881
      @douwekrooshof881 Год назад +1

      Orwo really is a different film, not repackaged Kodak 5222!

    • @ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      @ShootFilmLikeaBoss  Год назад +1

      As mentioned ORWO is its own plant. I also found that interesting the difference in prices. A few I listed look like home growers. Like my BUU XXX (which was a joke). But nothing stops me making it reality and giving times for 400

  • @MrDebone75
    @MrDebone75 Год назад

    As far as the light leaks I was reading kodak's actual brochure for the d96 developer and in the one part it said the possible light leaks or streaks as you have it comes from film touching film. So it's possible whenever they were loading it into the cassettes got kinked so one frame was touching another was touching another was touching another

  • @tedphillips2951
    @tedphillips2951 Год назад

    To me the most beautiful car ever made was the Austin Heally 3000. I always wanted one but could never afford it. Love to see 5222 in Piro developer

  • @doobythepirate
    @doobythepirate Год назад

    this film is great I find I get the best results when I develop it in D-76

  • @JasonRenoux
    @JasonRenoux Год назад

    Will have a go at the D96...and I hopefully can get the same results :) The print of the Triumph got my heart pumpinmg :)

  • @klofisch
    @klofisch Год назад

    usually there is the thing not to develop shorter than 5min to get en even development- Actually the master roll is usually developed witth low contrast dev,..since the contrast come with the copy (positiv roll for cinema) or with the paper print....

  • @hansjzeller
    @hansjzeller Год назад +2

    About the light leak: I had a similar problem a few years ago and in my case it was the light seal on the right side of the camera back (where your right hand holds the camera and where the hinge is). Replacing that seal fixed the issue for me. To test, shine a bright light on the right side of the camera for some frames, then tape the side with black tape and shoot the rest of the roll. The seal in my camera (Minolta XD-7) was easy to replace, just a strip of black velvet. Thanks for the video!!

  • @douwekrooshof881
    @douwekrooshof881 Год назад +1

    Rodinal is too grainy for me on double X. I like to shoot the film at iso 250 and develop in hc110 1:50, 12min at 20 deg

  • @FILMISNOTDEAD91
    @FILMISNOTDEAD91 Год назад +1

    I have had that problem with light leaks from nick and tricks hand rolled film I then kits the film canister

  • @lensman5762
    @lensman5762 Год назад

    Lovely photographs Rog. Typical isn't it? CatLabs X320 $6.99 aroll in the US and £12.00 here in the UK, that is if you could find it in stock.

    • @ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      @ShootFilmLikeaBoss  Год назад +1

      Some of the prices are shocking Lensman. Especially Acros II.

    • @lensman5762
      @lensman5762 Год назад

      @@ShootFilmLikeaBoss I still have 5 rolls of a large lot that I bought from Calumet in 2010. They cost less than £3.00 a roll for a pack of ten. I think the 120 roll was about £2.50.

  • @tmstone835
    @tmstone835 Год назад

    Is like to try D96 with Ferrania P80 in order to manage its high contrast.

  • @stevebarnett5048
    @stevebarnett5048 Год назад +1

    Knight Optical (I think they are in Kent) will do custom sized ANR glass

  • @Vintage35MM
    @Vintage35MM Год назад

    Have you considered the door hinge light seal. Try to tape the hinge w black tape after you load and see if it goes away.

  • @TristanColgate
    @TristanColgate Год назад

    I've ended up trying two Bellini chems lately. The eco film (an xtol alike), and their eco paper developer. Happy with both, but I don't have enough experience to really judge them. I'll probably stick with the paper one, it's a vitamin-c thing and very low toxicity.

    • @ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      @ShootFilmLikeaBoss  Год назад +1

      Stick with what you like Tristan. You don't need experience for that. You'll soon know when you want to change things such as sharpness, grain and contrast and fit into a rhythm.

    • @Aravzil
      @Aravzil Год назад

      My ecofilm stock solution died sudenly after 5 months and I lost a roll! It was advertised with a 6 months shelflife so watch out of this!

  • @erichstocker8358
    @erichstocker8358 Год назад

    Actually catLabs 320 is not a Kodak XX. It is an aerial surveillance film. It has a clear film, no background tone. It is very thin. It also has some additional sensitivity in the IR light range. I like the film a lot but I do have some issues getting it on reels sometimes as it is so thin that it can sleep from slot in reel.

  • @suzannepedersen1856
    @suzannepedersen1856 Год назад

    Awesome video! I’ve only developed 5222 with my and do love it. Are you using the mono bath or the other?

    • @ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      @ShootFilmLikeaBoss  Год назад +1

      Developer and Fixer separate Suzanne.

    • @suzannepedersen1856
      @suzannepedersen1856 Год назад

      @@ShootFilmLikeaBoss thank you! That should have said I have only developed it with hc110! Lol thanks for the info!

  • @johnmilner0859
    @johnmilner0859 Год назад

    Nice looking film. I like the strong contrast & going to try some. 👏👏 Not film, but would be interested in your views on the Leica Q2.

    • @ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      @ShootFilmLikeaBoss  Год назад +1

      The Q2, once you get used to it, is a brilliant camera to shoot. I shoot it fully manual (apart from ISO I leave on auto) even manual focusing. I kept missing shots on auto focus. And the focus assist inside which is all like green speckles is very useful for manual focus. Downside for me being digital is I don't have a good printer and have to ask the local printer to print for me. Amazingly sharp detailed photos though.

    • @ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      @ShootFilmLikeaBoss  Год назад

      I add, it's a fixed 28mm lens. Great for most areas especially scapes.

    • @johnmilner0859
      @johnmilner0859 Год назад

      @@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Thanks Roger

  • @AndrewHenderson
    @AndrewHenderson Год назад

    Nice one Rodger, can you tell the difference between both developers at a normal viewing distance? does the Rodinal appear sharper with the more prominent grain ?

    • @ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      @ShootFilmLikeaBoss  Год назад

      Not at normal viewing distance Andrew. I couldn't tell anyway

  • @cessna1511
    @cessna1511 Год назад

    I think I’ve got a Durst glass. I’ll check tomorrow and send you a message.

  • @mnoliberal7335
    @mnoliberal7335 Год назад +1

    Been using XX from a bulk roll. Never seen much difference betwixt D-96 and D-76.

  • @katharinemovertonphotographer
    @katharinemovertonphotographer Год назад

    I might have a spare glass for your enlarger Roger will you be at the car show at Ryde this weekend?

  • @richardjames3022
    @richardjames3022 Год назад

    I keep trying to put links in to a website about bulk loading 400 ft film and another website that will do a 3D printed bulk loader for 400ft, but RUclips keep taking it down.

    • @Guairenito
      @Guairenito Год назад +1

      Maybe try and put the links to the home pages and without dots.

    • @ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      @ShootFilmLikeaBoss  Год назад +1

      They come up in my "held for review area" as links in the past have been, let's say, of an adult nature! I'll check soon and approve it.

    • @Guairenito
      @Guairenito Год назад

      @@ShootFilmLikeaBoss o wow, some people were trying to be funny hu! 😄

  • @TenchiLoh
    @TenchiLoh Год назад

    Hi, I also got that kind of light leak on my Minolta Alpha Sweet II, cant figure out what cause it. Do you have any lead on where is the leak come from?

    • @ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      @ShootFilmLikeaBoss  Год назад +1

      I've not got a clue! As it is over the frames in pretty much the same place I am suspecting the camera yet the seals are perfect so it is a strange one! First time it happened. Then went away again!

    • @TenchiLoh
      @TenchiLoh Год назад

      @@ShootFilmLikeaBoss I cover the back cover film window with light seal. Yet to test again.

  • @JanneRanta
    @JanneRanta Год назад

    I wonder how 5222 would do with 1:100 rodinal developing. I will have to try a roll if my local store has one.

    • @ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      @ShootFilmLikeaBoss  Год назад +1

      Thanks Janne! By the way the tripod finally died! The monopod leg snapped in half. I ordered the same tripod yesterday! The old one did take some battering though!

    • @JanneRanta
      @JanneRanta Год назад

      @@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Oh dear. How did you manage that? Did one of those cows finally get sick of unpaid model work and stomp it? 😀

  • @stevep2430
    @stevep2430 Год назад

    You will have to employ the misses with one of those hand fans as an air conditioner but only if your brave, they have a habit of exploding.

  • @cecilsharps
    @cecilsharps Год назад

    the catlabs isn't kodak xx. It's most likely from an agfa arial film.

    • @francoismassin8649
      @francoismassin8649 Год назад +1

      There's a 5222 marked on the edge of the film. A good clue about the Kodak XX film ?

    • @cecilsharps
      @cecilsharps Год назад

      @@francoismassin8649 the film is sourced in the eu and has near ir capabilities. It isn't kodak xx. It's most likely Agfa Aviphot Pan 200 also known as rollei superpan 200.

    • @wcwendychapman
      @wcwendychapman Год назад +1

      @cecilsharps Given what you said about near ir capabilities. If you added a deep red filter might you get ir like images?

    • @cecilsharps
      @cecilsharps Год назад

      @@wcwendychapman yep. Rate it at iso 25 and use the appropriate filter.

  • @conrailwitty
    @conrailwitty Год назад

    That light leak looks like "light piping". Probably happened when the film was respooled.

    • @ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      @ShootFilmLikeaBoss  Год назад +1

      The other roll was fine. Hope I don't see it again

    • @conrailwitty
      @conrailwitty Год назад

      Yeah, that's another reason to not blame the infallible Nikon! I'm betting that Double XX has a thinner film base which will promote light pipping in certain situations. It's been a few years since I shot any of that film (and there's a few in my freezer just itching to be exposed!). I'll check a roll out this week and see what's the what.@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss

  • @richardjames3022
    @richardjames3022 Год назад +1

    Did nurse Gladys Emanuel drive her Moggy Minor to the show with her amorous shopkeeper (RIP to both)

  • @ZOMBIELUIS666
    @ZOMBIELUIS666 Год назад

    Those Jags are bitchin! Great work as usual.

  • @Guairenito
    @Guairenito Год назад

    How many rolls can you develop with 1 liter of the Bellini D96?

    • @ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      @ShootFilmLikeaBoss  Год назад +1

      I don't know but I'll soo see adjusting the times as it gets used.

    • @Guairenito
      @Guairenito Год назад

      @@ShootFilmLikeaBoss thank you for your answer. Cinestill’s D96 powder developer states that you can develop 16 rolls or 100ft roll of 35mm film with 1 liter of their developer. That might be a good starting point.

    • @ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      @ShootFilmLikeaBoss  Год назад

      A bonus if it goes past 16 rolls then!

    • @Guairenito
      @Guairenito Год назад

      @@ShootFilmLikeaBoss definitely. I will grite to Bellini and ask them. They are good answering customer’s doubts.

  • @guillermoperezsantos
    @guillermoperezsantos Год назад +1

    Nextime, make your own developer ;)
    D96 formula:
    Metol 1.50
    Sodium Sulfite 75.00
    Hydroquinone 1.50
    Borax 4.50
    Potassium Bromide 0.40

    • @francoismassin8649
      @francoismassin8649 Год назад

      Yep 😃
      As usual, start with a pinch of Sodium Sulfite then all the other ingredients in sequence
      I believe Borax should be added last

    • @ShootFilmLikeaBoss
      @ShootFilmLikeaBoss  Год назад

      I have the first two for D23. Cheers.

  • @guillermoperezsantos
    @guillermoperezsantos Год назад

    The long leak is in the same position, your camera has a problem mate

  • @mikestanavech7858
    @mikestanavech7858 Год назад

    Shoot a factory rolled high quality film like TriX in the same conditions. Re spooled stuff introduces too many variables.