My Review of School of Life's Nietzsche Video
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Listen to me disassemble this terrible six and a half minute video on Nietzsche. Since it takes me 45 minutes to do it, maybe now you can understand why the shallow, oversimplified Nietzsche content floats to the surface and why most people will come away with a terrible understanding of Nietzsche.
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school of life and bertrand russell just proved nietzsche right about the superficiality and the lack of depth in english thought and moral philosophy
I believe the head man at school of Life is Swiss by birth and heritage. But I will read what nietzsche wrote English thought and moral philosophy.
English Nietzsche scholars are some of the worst things in the world. I took a class in undergrad, an upper level seminar on the Genealogy. The class was taught by an English professor who graduated from Oxford, and we read two commentaries by English philosophers on Nietzsche. The class was nothing sort of a travesty. Not trying to be pretentious or whatever but by the time of that class I had read most of Nietszche’s works and had a (what I felt) was a very strong understanding of Nietzsche’s thought (which means I understood Nietzsche’s methodology). These thinkers saw Nietzsche through a Kantisn prism, when Nietzsche himself didn’t really give a fuck about Kant. Sure there is a philosophical lineage and he disputes Kant’s thought, but he is unlike pretty much all German philosophers of his time in that he is not in dialogues with Kantian or post-kantisn thought. These English commentators felt that they were extraordinarily clever for making this connection.
Anyways, I had (and have) a lot of respect for the professor of this class. And I was grateful that he graded my papers honestly and I think I got the highest total grade for the class so he was in some sense open to a different interpretation. But, my professor genuinely believed I was a psychopath or amoral because of my defense of Nietzsche. And so, even though I had a strong relationship with this professor prior to this class. He refused to write me a letter of recommendation because of this class
Could it be the structure of the language won’t allow for much else
@Paian Anax look around and tell me how that’s a good thing
@Paian Anax Something that works is not always grand.
"He resented Christianity for protecting people from their envy."
I'm dying over here this is such a funny take. Everything has to be about the others perception. Nietzsche did not resent Christianity: he hated it and was disgusted by it. "School of Life" can not conceive of looking down on a thing from a height, and how this has a particular emotional flavor to human beings.
I watched a lot of the school of life material a few years ago. It inspired me to investigate philosophy a bit more. Without the pop philosophy exposure I may not have considered dipping my toe into philosophy. Not that I would pretend to be skilled in the subject. I'm glad you made this commentary.
The narrators posh accent is like nails on a chalkboard
You know you're in trouble when someone presents Nietzsche as some kind of self-help guru. Btw, that's Martin Amis to the left of Buffett, to the right is chef Jamie Oliver iirc.
I was taught in school that “God is Dead” was a celebratory statement! So people still twist the intended meaning of the parable.
Wow, this is such an intriguing critique. It’s really the worst IMO when a channel of their popularity can get away with gross misrepresentation of the truth(with certain portions of their video certainly more guilty of this than others). Thank you for sharing this with us, it deserves our attention.
School of life is a perfect example of style over substance.
If that is the way one has first contact with philosophers,then what the hay ? 🙂
But the style sucks ass too
Outstanding and refreshing content! Please continue to destroy these shallow stereotypes and myths which misrepresent Nietzsche's views that are commonly quoted by so called Nietzsche experts.
BTW the first image you queried about was Larry page, one of the Google founders.
Thanks! Is it weird that I probably would have recognized Sergei Brin but I didn't recognize Larry Page?
@@untimelyreflections modern day celebs aren't even worth mentioning IMO ;')
And Google is just a devilish mind-controll and private data collecting giant with it's algorithms
Billy Gates of Hell must've had his fingers in it too :'D
Nietzsche is famous in colleges and universities and is often quoted in memes etc. It's interesting that people flock to his writings, then move on to other schools of philosophy or thinkers, but many return to his writings and ideas because he was a brilliant critic and had amazing thoughts. That doesn't mean, however, that he is the one with all the answers. Philosophers, like all writers, are products of their times, although they try to see things in a different way. I find him fascinating. P.S. School of life blows monkey balls.
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You have to understand who school of life is to understand why he makes the choices he makes. He is a European who defends class systems and has a very conservative (conservative in contrast to classical liberalism) view of the world. He almost wants a return to the 19th century but with modern science. The envy part is something he constantly brings to many different talks he has. He feels people of lower classes should not envy those from upper classes instead they should do something amazing to join the upper classes. Is so sad that his channel is so popular but pop philosophy and nice graphics can do wonders in youtube.
I like how he disliked the video before completing his explanation.
i liked essentialsalts video the second i saw his dislike lol
He probably watches it before filming as well
I remember asking School Of Life to do a video on Carl Jung a few years ago, but got a response saying that they will not do any content relating to Jung's work because they do not like many of his ideas. Since then I've stopped watching their videos.
People will uncritically repeat things they hear all the time. The whole Kimba the White Lion situation is a prime example
i forgot: for Nietzsche Philosophy was an artform to be lived and celebrated with passion...
This oversimplification of things is just proof of how superficial and dumbed down our society has become..
I love how we can see that you disliked the video :'D
Oh yeah, it's not as sophisticated like the society was before the 21st century. You know, murdering millions of people under the guise of ideology, working 100 hour weeks, literally enslaving people, burning people alive for your enlightened religious reasons, believing the Sun orbits the Earth, marrying people because your parents told you to, going to wars for the glory of your kings, stuff like that.
Oh, old times, I wish the stupid modernity didn't come and ruin all that. Imagine what you could do back then, like be born a peasant and live without even a possibility of an access to information and die from cholera or dirty surgical instruments in your 30s. Doesn't that sound fun?
@@em_the_bee sounds all more sane to me, than working half a year for the state or telling kids in school they are born in the wrong body!
We are as enslaved as ever, if not even more. The only difference is, that we're given the illusion of having a choice..
As a landlord or duke you couldn't take a peasants property, otherwise they couldn't work for you, but they are taking property from the peasants right now here in Europe...
The 21th century isn't very bright for the general population and if you can't see it now, maybe the next 10 years will alter your opinion
Prices are sky-rocketing, inflation is at an all time high.. we don't even have more wealth than we used to have, the only difference is that we have smartphones and cars now, but without gas you can't refuel your fkn car :'D
I don't know why people think the past was all but dark, when the masses won't wake up to their masshypnosis there will be far more dead people, than the last century has brought forth.. china is mobilizing their forces right now for war, just because there isn't a king these days, whom you fight for, is it much better today? Common man, think about it, nothing changed, except maybe science and medicine.. oh wait, the pseudo-science they are spreading as truth these days is even worse than praying for health!
As Nietzsche said, feudalistic Europe was worth more than the democratic one..
@@samuelinauen1038 Do you feel like you're born in the wrong body because someone told you so? Is that a problem for you?
Seems like you like to analyse a lot of information from different sources, form your opinion on it and speak of it publicly without fear of being jailed or burnt alive.
Good luck doing that when you're born in the 97% of the population that's illiterate.
I would argue that superficial and dumbed down society is a perennial issue. In my little experience, very few people are interested in critical thinking and intellectual discourse. What troubles me is how superficial ideas and dumbing down is still encouraged today.
@@blakerainwater6036 among many other things (like inherent biological capability, lack of early childhood upbringing, neurological/psychological conditions, questionable degree of practicality of said skills and knowledge, and many more), a very sad reason would be the lack of time and mental resources.
When you work long hours, especially if the job is physically or mentally demanding, in your free time (if you got any) you're not in the mood for trying to understand complex concepts and reading some dead philosophers trying to separate bullshit from reasonable arguments.
The man on the left in that edit is Larry Page, one of the men who founded Google. The guy on the left in the second edit is a British writer named Martin Amis.
Thank you!
I am in the process of reading Nietzsche and I appreciated your critique which rang true to what I have found in his writing.
Phenomenal video!
Admittedly, SoL got me interested in philosophy back in high school. Though, I just had a very surface level understanding, as you'd expect. It's not until recently I started to read Nietzsche again and actually have a better grasp of his ideas.
OH! And I should be more critical when it comes to learning his biography. I fell victim of the horse, Salomé, and syphilis myth for a long time, lol
Nietzsche does talk about envy in the ancient greek context in one of his earlier works (can't recall which one).. but it is by no means one of his central points in he's philosophy, like the video pretends it is
Looks like that video was removed from SOL's philosophy playlist. Three other vids on Nietzsche but not that one (which I do remember seeing years ago). I agree with your assessment.
Would love to see you create a more accurate intro to Nietzche in the time frame/graphical style of the original video as a rebuttal. Summarizing Nietzhe is 7 minutes is a tall order, but I’m sure you could do a much better job than them lol.
I’d need someone much better at video editing than myself!
@@untimelyreflections i would love to have a better understanding of some of Nietzche's ideas in just 7 minutes. You should just make a video with you talking about the same ideas, but more accurately, in 7 minutes or less- no animation, no editing, just a 7 minute script on these ideas. would be neat to see the difference.
At the times when i didn't know about Nietzsche or his philosophy from my own experience of reading them, this video did confused me strongly. There were so many controversies, it created a very shallow image of Nietzsche's philosophy, I'm so glad that i was able to take matters to my own hand and started learning him independently.
What’s the worst part is that I’ve seen articles online parroting this video word for word 🤦♂️
Omg that photoshop of them in the church 😂😂😂 lollll
Thank you for your pushback on what is important in terms of correcting the things relevant to Nietzsche but also only giving the presentation the seriousness it deserved 😆
Nietzsche is hard to understand for many and that was on purpose!
Nietzsche realized that giving knowledge indiscriminately to everyone is like giving fully loaded weapons to kids! a mind that receives knowledge must be ready to handle it accordingly, otherwise there is a great danger that it will go astray and hurt itself and others.
Thats why Nietzsche deliberately used a language that is complex, indirect and almost impossible to understand at first reading even for bright minds. This way he wanted to make sure his wisdom would only be consumed by minds who were prepared for it. Unfortunately that went horribly wrong because as brilliant as Nietzsche was, even he could not account for the full extend of Human stupidity. So his books/words found their way into "simple minds" who went ahead and committed all kinds of crimes misrepresenting his very work.
Nietzsches Zarathustra, NOT Nietzsche himself but his "parody" of what he thought of a "Philosopher", spoke of the "Ubermensch". Nazis took this literally and considered themselves as "superior" to everyone else, yet the "Ubermensch" was something incredibly mundane, it was simply the process of future Generations...thats it! Nietzsches Zarathustra was simply pointing out the obvious, that future Generations are better than the ones before. That is like saying that newer Cars are better than the older Gens, which is objectively true.
It was Nietzsches way of pointing out how obviously stupid some people are who we considered "Philosophers". People think they know "Nietzsches Philosophy" but I call BS on that because Nietzsche was the ONLY Philosopher who understood what Philosophy really was about. Nietzsche had no Philosophy because there is no such thing as "having a Philosophy". If you believe that reality, god, nature, life, infinity etc. etc. are in a certain way or have a certain function or make sense in this or that direction, you are NOT having a "Philosophy" but you are having a "belief system" like Religion. A Philosopher does not provide Answers, a Philosopher asks questions nobody dares to ask or nobody thinks of asking.
There is one very important question Nietzsche asks at least twice in his Books that doesnt get the attention it should! the question is "did you believe Zarathustra?"....well? did you?
Who really knows Fredrick Nietzsche ?
And Vincent Van Gogh.
All that we can possibly do is,
Have our own interpretations in our limited views of a time period that none of us have actually lived in.
It is of the words left, hopefully not edited by society, family or government's.
That gives us pause to have these arguments in discussing our views.
Although I very much appreciate the various subtlety in many Nietzschean notions you bring correction to, I find it quite harsh in categorically correction many notions you mentioned here. Considering the sharpness of almost all Nietzsche's ideas, I think that video actually did a very good job. I would however maintain the correction where a slight misinterpretation could lead to a fundamentally different notion despite sounding similar at first approach.
I think Peterson has a better grip on Nietzsche than you give him credit for. I mean of course he is interpreting him from his own perspective, which is much more positive towards Christianity than Nietzsche was.
ButI don't think Peterson is putting words in Nietzsche's mouth as much as he's using his thought as a springboard for his own.
When he goes into that he compares Nietzsche Dostoevsky, making the point -at least implicitly- that here were two different thinkers approaching the death of God from two different perspectives, anti-christianity in Nietzsche's case, pro Christianity in Dostoevsky's case.
I hope that at least a few people watching philosophy videos on RUclips cut out the middleman and go directly to the source itself. People preferring to get canned takes on Nietzsche from a secondary source rather than just reading his works and engaging with them on their own is amusing. The herd, indeed.
Philosophy ain't a "feel good" thing at least not always. School of lies more like it.
Indeed. I agree with such common issues. I attribute it to a few details. Will to Power itself, being unable to define what is Fred, what is editor... Not reading journals and all his works, then W2P would be ok... Also I feel it is impossible to translate Nietzsche to English as example. I point to a couple passages, Will to Power itself: Macht being more propel, or Shatzen in so many forms: meaning/value/creation... Between worlds men or back worldsmen - hinterland... We would need to translate all the multiple meanings - Man the evaluator in one translation - the valuator. Ubergang, intergang - not often explained. I have read all the translations and begun to read and translated the German. Final example is a passage that can be read as God is coloured lights in our eyes, fancy or fantasy, but also can be read as God is the coloured lights in our eyes... I agree, even point to a recent biography that states on the same page that "Fred was crazy... we can never know as they did not study his brain as they did his father"... Boggles the mind, I am sure Fred would remind us of the Herd mentality he warned about...I have my preferred translations - that is how I geek out on this material - I prefer the RJ Hollingdale English translations when available. Thank you for taking the time to explain these important aspects. *I liken the devotion of the Ubermench like the Moonshot goals of the Chinese Book of Change(resonated with Jung who adored Fred's ideals) - Great accomplishment is the archetype of a hand trying to grasp the moon. We must set our target further than we have faith we can achieve - in the failure to clone our idols - we find our individuation, our ideal. We will land far further, than we gave our self credit.
The chef as artist - this is a reference to creation as meaning - as value - so anyone who truly lives - even a cook can create and have meaning and value to their existence. Imo. *Dont be a Christian - be you - There was only the one Christian - as Fred said - and he died on a cross... I believe that is what they mean. *Christians as the herd because they do not have a personal path to meaning? *Mention of Fred's penchant for treatment for his suffering: I argue he suffered from his ideas, and the medicines only made it worse.. Thoughts? I believe he died because of his ideas, and as a quote goes - he was suffered for his love for man, and mankind's love for underachievement.
I've only been subscribed to this channel for a few weeks and this is some astounding premium content
Good stuff. (Inconsistent on the volume. Pump it up a little! )
Yeah, it was less than ideal. Next one will improve!
nice work - I remember watching this vid a couple years ago and thought it was ok, ty
By envy isn't he referring to ressentiment .. which of course means rather more than just envy?
Nietzsche is probably the most misunderstood philosopher.....I agree with all of your points entirely.....the way I see it he wanted us to affirm the tragedy of our existence, say yes to life and come out of it better than you were before....to embrace reason over superstition...to think...to reevaluate our value system.....to redefine the terms....I don't believe he would look fondly at out current society and it's structure....he was an iconoclast...a breaker of icons
I think is good to point that he "embraced reason over superstition" but more than that, passion over reason. One of the greatest contribution from Nietzsche and one of his more inovative ideas to philosophy in his time, was the ideia that reason was not the top important thing, and that the old racionalists like Socrates and Kant where not healthy minds, due to they valuing reason above everithing, even above the own life, and not seeing that reason is not over passion, but the oposite, reason was "subservient" to passion, and valuing reason over mather was not a healthy thing
@@luizaiwass2006 The analogy I like to give is Passion is the ocean and Reason is the ship that sails on the sea of Passion....the two need each other....Nietzsche speaks allot about Dionysus and Apollo....One is Passion the other represents Reason
I think the man has not read a page of Nietzsche in his entire life. Brilliant as usual.
Thanks for the video.
suggestion - video is louder and commentary is low volume. make it similar.
Loved the video, perhaps a video on the Greeks? Personal views and expanding on Nietchzhes distain for them?
Nietzsche did not have disdain for the Greeks, he loved the Greeks.
He did write, in the Gay Science, however, “we must overcome even the Greeks”, implying that his philosophy cannot be understood either as completely derivative of the Greeks nor as a flat-out rejection.
I did a video about Nietzsche’s lectures on Heraclitus at Basel that you may find helpful, its on the channel somewhere
There's a grate video I can't find on you tube any more that talked about what people get wrong about Nietzsche
You really had to plug yourself at 20:15 so that people would listen to your podcast too? Well it worked, this is all amazing.
Which video would that be? The one on Pilate
There’s not one specifically on Pilate but the video on The Antichrist covers the deeper philosophical idea I was indicating
Excellent introduction to the podcast for me.
A commentary full of 'resentment'?
Isn't it possible to let different ways, opinions, and interpretations (selection of facts and giving value to them) just co-exist, one next -to the other? A mater of tolerance n'est pas?
I'm really done with this intellectual I-know-it-better-attitude.
Let's give philosophy back to the people.
Plus est en vous.
Saw Sugrue in the Watch Next of the video... I'd be interested in what you think of him.
I’d love to talk to him on the channel, brilliant man and great speaker.
The school of life introduces normies to philosophy. It seems like its more good than bad...
Also beating that horse sounds pretty similar to what happens in a book by Dostoyevsky i wonder if theres any relationship there or --
(You just said that so i stopped my comment lol)
Ok do an analysis video about who has been misquoted more Albert Einstein or Nietzsche XD
Man, you done well here.
So the envy thing mister salts is a reference to Nietzsche book the genealogy of morals. Overall, Nietzsche's views on envy are complex and nuanced. While he does not explicitly advocate for owning up to envy in the sense of admitting to others that you are envious, he does suggest that individuals should be honest with themselves about their envy and use it as a motivator for self-improvement. And he thought that envy was a self destructive force if it consumes a person
“There’s only one person in the New Testament worth respecting; Pilot”
Essential salts: “based”
Man i remember playing as pontius pilate in a play it felt great
I don't remember any planes.
Hi there! I just wanted to say how much I enjoyed watching your video. You have a great talent for Nietzsche. I would love to see more of your content and learn from your expertise in the future. I'm definitely subscribing to your channel and can't wait for your next upload! Keep up the amazing work!
i saw this video from school of life, tone of it sounded like tabloid story, but mental breakdown part stuck with me
Thank you for making this video -- it helped give me some solid ground to approach this man and his philosophy
Its a shame that the audio is garbage 🤦🤦🤦
Are all Nietzsche fans also heavy metal fans? lmao
Only the smart, talented and attractive ones
I tend to trust Alain de Botton, but thank you for the contrary standpoints.
as right as you be that video is meant to be funny and that is ironically the side of Nietzsche nobody ever writes or talks about and therein he shares the fate of so many genius minds: for good or bad people just cant separate the art from the artist...
Tbh fred could do way better than lou💀
16:50 is it Bear Grylls on the right???? 😂
Bear Grylls: Ubermensch
Sounds like this was written by someone who disagreed with Nietzsche and made it to deflect any serious look into nietzsche's views. There is so much antithetical philosophy in the 19th century it's not a surprising. If I didn't know Nietzsche and I was curious and found this video first I would easily dismiss his views.
Please do more video on Schopenhauer, and Kant bro love your content
"Eleven sad years later" absolutely awful writing lol
Jamie Oliver is the Chef on the second photo at 17:30
Very good stuff. I thought I knew the biog of Nietzsche but never came across the origin of the horse story. As for Lou Salome, I reckon he must have fancied her, I mean, come on...
My reading of Nietzsche does in fact say that one can become ubermensch, and the idea that Nietzsche was literally arguing for a future race of super beings is absurd and flies in the face of the rest of his philosophy. In order to become ubermensch, one must quite literally cast off his human traits and become something else. Ubermensch is "The Overcoming Man" and is attained in practice. It is an activity.
That’s not how the term is used in Thus Spoke Zarathustra. I think that your reading is incompatible with what Nietzsche says about the Ubermensch. If you have supporting quotes for your position that would be welcome.
Also, I did not say he was arguing for a future race of super beings.
I'm keen to think the same. But I'm going to do some more reading first.
I know the hatred and envy of your hearts. Ye are not great enough not to know of hatred and envy. Then be great enough not to be ashamed of them! - Thus Spoke Zarathustra .Nietzsche's aphoristic style make it hard to come to absolute conclusions on what he really meant. However we can make an intelligent guess. Envy in Christianity is consider a sin and since Nietzsche was the antipode of Christianity's moral framework it can be assumed that his attidute toward envy was positive. Instead of burying the feeling thinking of it as a ‘sin’ we should learn to tame it and use it constructively for self-development and self-fulfillment.
Incorrect. Nietzsche does not praise everything considered as a sin by Christianity, nor does he condemn everything considered a virtue by Christianity. Nietzsche praises things such as honesty, magnanimity, mercy, wisdom, and respectfulness - all are listed among his “cardinal virtues”, and would be agreed on by Christians as virtuous also. Meanwhile some of the other virtues he praises, like solitude, have virtually no relation to Christianity or any previous moral thinking. You can’t just expect to reverse the virtues of Christianity and come to a nuanced understanding of Nietzsche.
Skipped his term in the Prussian Army.
Nice work. I believe this was very satisfying to correct the various records. I saw another video by "The Living Philisophy" that translated the Three Metamorphoses into "How to Become an Ubermensch" and felt it suffered the same flaw. #frescosofstupidity
16:50 the chef on the right is a FantasticAmazingGuy called Jamie Oliver who tried to ban chicken nuggest (or something) in schools, don't worry about him he's got a lisp
hating on ppl for irrelevant features like a lisp is pretty slave morality LMAO
@@magicianLogician thought you were a woman then clicked your channel, condolences
A balanced analysis.
I thought that the school of life's explanation of how Christianity turned peoples weakness into virtue was a good example of slave morality. I'm sort of confused why you had a problem with it? Please explain! If I've been thinking about this wrong this whole time that would be cringe
The problem is their framing of envy as central.
Nietzsche simply does not advance the argument that the slave morality emerges from envy. Nor does he argue that envy is a good thing that the nobility were guided by.
Envy is other-directed; this would also be true of resentment, which is a term Nietzsche explores at length, and definitively places as a driving force of slave morality. This is why I said they’re two sides of the same coin: both other-directed feelings. It is NOT the case that the master morality is simply “more honest” about these feelings or “owns up” to them and uses them to better their lives.
Rather, the entire orientation of making moral judgments based on the power positions of others is a result of the slave morality - THIS is Nietzsche’s argument. What emerges therefore is not the masses simply being unable to get sex or status: their moral orientation to the world first and foremost is concerned with something entirely different - reducing harm and preventing suffering. Nietzsche’s argument is that the slaves are not concerned with having the same thing as the masters have, and not simply because they played themselves or lied to themselves psychologically. The slave morality is concerned with alleviating suffering, stopping the master morality from harming it. This is the starting point you have to explain. “Envy” to the extent N. even mentions it would be a secondary phenomenon; we certainly do not define the difference between master and slave morality as defined by their attitude to envy.
Yes, this eventually leads them to denounce worldly things, but that’s because they’ve denounced *the whole world* - because it is characterized by suffering/samsara/etc.
@@untimelyreflections ohh I see I guess in that way I've been fusing will to power with slave morality a bit. I always thought of slave morality as something like : I have no money, I can't get anyone to have sex with me, I'm too weak to go out and get revenge etc therefore instead of trying to better myself and change, let's just make it virtuous to have no money, only have sex with one woman, and to forgive, so in this way weak people can be good simply by changing what is considered good. But in a way that is will to power actually and also touches on the part about philosphers in beyond good and evil.
it was their video on Schopenhauer that got me into philosophy
Their Philosophy, Sociology and Literature series did the same for me. I became obsessed, then it opened the door to deeper more complete content.
11:51 That's Larry Page, one of the Google founders...
Na na na na naa naa,essential's a bit envious ! 😀
Nah nah nah you’re just a bit of an idiot
@@untimelyreflections 😄
looks/likes/subscribers, ❤s, claps are the currency for the new herd morality where peddling excuses replaces forgiveness so the weak don't have to think but rather are spoon fed the psychological permission to be a selfish ahole.
from a historical demographic perspective this makes sense - an industrializing society with exploding population would need a way to inhibit both consumption as well as inhibit fits of violence/lawlessness these are transformed into collection action in the form of peaceful protest ( at least in the high population/violite industrialized nexi )
- current demographics no longer can economically support the 'old' herd morality a new herd morality is needed that simultaneously:
1. removes inhibitions from consumption
2. keeps inhibitions against violence/lawlessness ( not gonna happen ) and/or conditions individuals thru 'culture' to direct those human tendencies ( volatile & disruptive to commerce ) inward which manifests in the form of self-harm/mutilation, isolation, addiction, distraction, hero/status-worship, anti-sexual even anti-sensual (neo- stoic ) tendencies ... suicide/'accidental' overdose
He's enunciating the German terms because he's Swiss.
I hate videos like that, which trivialize Nietzsche for everyday people.
We love our myths... Virtually everyone still believes that Luther dramatically nailed his theses to the door of the Wittenberg Castle Church although modern historians tend towards the view that's just latter propaganda.
Ho ho ho, time to get my headphones
Awesome video so far !
That part about sex and envying the upper class sounded like something the lobster hierarchy guy would say lol
I love Nietzsche. But he mentions his issues in the love department in his writings before he died. Nietzsche scholars called the book "my sister and i" and he mentioned not only how women "betrayed him" and how that Russian broad "rejected" him, but also his incestuous relationship with his sister growing up.
Amor fati.
That book is full of his sister’s forgeries and every serious scholar for the past several decades has known this.
@@untimelyreflections I don't believe that. It was his sister who he had go get it past in the first place.
@essentialsalts sounds like you're thinking of The Will to Power. There's some argument about the order of it and if his sister altered it at all.
So, as it turns out, "My Sister and I" is probably not his works. I researched it a bit, and its origin doesn't seem legitimate.
Good stuff. thanks a bunch!
Wow this was NASTY
You are comparing a video where people watch your videos for an in depth take and videos people watch for a cliff notes version...and you are lowering yourself to cliff notes here. Don't be so insecure. No one who is capable of depth is taking those videos seriously.
I don’t think Jordan Peterson misrepresents Nietzsche! He’s even said that Nietzsche was one of the, if not thee, greatest critic of Christianity.
Thank you for this.
"School of Life" is making money with this nonsense?
Good breakdown.
I have a hypothesis that Nietzsche was autistic. Severe migraines are very common in autistic people and there is a well documented gut brain connection (lots of gut issues with with autistic people). Woman troubles, if there were indeed any, could be attributed to social awkwardness, another trait seen in many autistic people. If he was on the PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidant) end of the spectrum, then that could explain his irritableness. Sensory issues like certain peoples voices being annoying are another sign of possible autism and sometimes over stimulation causes what we in autism world call meltdowns. These meltdowns are often called mental breakdowns. It is quite common for autistic people to present as neurotypical but that is really what we call "masking". Too much socializing and masking often lead to meltdowns or mental breakdowns, Early onset dementia is also linked to autism in many modern studies.
It is likely that a very high percentage of philosophers were autistic.
@@connor3284 absolutely agree
Alain de Boton is everything wrong with philosophy.
its knee-cheh, not cha
This original video is a real disservice to Nietzsche but you nitpick stuff like "mental breakdown" (definitely not thinking about a midlife crisis here) - that hurts your argument.
Whats your opinion on uberboyo?
Haven't watched enough of his videos to tell you, I've seen like half of one of them.
Thumbs up to you.
excellent video, thank you
I am prompted to ask you , Mr .Content Creator , how many books of Nietzsche you have read.
In respect of "envy" that you are glibly denying that Nietzsche never valued , go and read the Antichrist. Nietzsche listed envy as one of the emotions that create a tonic passion in humans , which he argued Christianity has labeled as sinful
That would be a misunderstanding of Nietzsche’s take on envy, I’d suggest a more careful reading, taking into account passages like AC 57 in which Nietzsche writes: “What is bad? But I have already answered: all that proceeds from weakness, from envy, from revenge.”
Again, envy is a reactive and externally-directed feeling. It’s complicated because N. also says that jealousy was part of the greatness of the Greeks (see: Homer’s Contest), but it would be yet another misunderstanding to assume that this means (1) that envy/jealousy in the sense he’s talking about in that early, unpublished essay is the same as envy in the sense its commonly understood today (2) that everything about the Greeks can be emulated by us (3) that this is necessarily an aspect of the noble morality. This is because, (1) the Greeks only believed in competition between nobles and based this relationship on friendship, (2) envy as it manifests among powerless people is a driver of resentment (“owning up” to it isn’t relevant in this regard bc what matters is the power relationships and not your conscious choices), and (3) he also criticizes this Greek view of jealousy bc it lead the Greeks to do things like banish the best members of their poleis for outcompeting everyone else.
The idea of “owning up to envy” is simply never given as advice by Nietzsche. Yes, envy has a role in his philosophy, but it’s not a central idea.
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Thank you for clarifying some things.
Seems that the creator of the Nietzsche video is a hack like Jordan Peterson.
Has some very surface knowledge of a topic and then reads their own phantasms into the meat of the topic.
I think this is less of a critique of a man's general survey of Nietzsche--created for a broad audience who isn't necessarily privy to philosophical treatises, in a short therefore limiting time frame--rather than a video nitpicking things said and passing off judgement for not divulging subjective preferences.
They said factually inaccurate things and misrepresented his philosophy.
The British narrator- as I often find in his ilk - carries a tone of superiority and Indeniability - where the stress of his presentation fits their aire of “better than thou”
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Who would have thought that 6 minutes of a video trying to capture content, the content which takes reading books to grasp, the video which is made for people that don't read, would leave those people walking away with a bad understanding.