For me, it is not a matter of liking or disliking PADI. I live in the middle of my state and the shops in the surrounding counties are PADI certification agencies. Yes, I could travel down South East or to the West coast or to Europe to get a cert from another agency but that would add far more cost to it and I would be limited to when I could get there. Fortunately, the local shop I dive with has good instructors. They also encourage skills practice after the course (my son and I take advantage of the pool sessions) and they encourage expanded personal learning. I have purchased manuals and watched videos from other agencies to learn their ideas on different aspects of diving. I am a SCUBA diver. I am not a PADI diver. The PADI card give me a thing to show the boat captain or the local quarry when they want to know my training level.
The main difference is framework. I can't speak for NAUI, but I can speak for PADI, SSI, and SDI. PADI is the most restrictive. You must teach things in a specific order (many PADI instructors ignore the requirement in CW4 to do the free flowing regulator skill, and move it to the end of CW5. Due to the cost of pool time and therefore limited pool time, most PADI instructors skip the "handling emergencies' part in CW5). Also in PADI, you are not allowed to add sensible performance requirements. Most con ed courses are fluff as a result. SSI has more flexibility and allows instructor to move things around. This came in handy for me when teaching a class when I could no longer equalize on the first of two pool sessions. No problem, I did all the surface skills instead for the rest of the session and then completed all underwater skills the next day. It makes sense for some skills to be progressive, but others that are not related (diver tow) it shouldn't matter at all. SSI does have a process briefly described in standards for adding performance requirements, which if memory serves me, allows an instructor to add sensible performance requirements. It starts with the shop before going to HQ if I'm not mistaken. SDI (and NAUI as far as I understand) allow an instructor to add performance requirements/dives. This can make con ed courses much more valuable. Not all SDI/NAUI instructors take advantage of this unfortunately, but those that do, those are the kinds of instructors that people should seek out. The problem is that most people don't know the difference.
When I went for my OW certification I really didn't know anything about the agencies, so I wasn't "looking for PADI." It found me. It's a chicken/egg thing. After getting certified I felt like I received a participation trophy, rather than actual instruction. I've switched to other agencies and find the instruction content to be pretty much the same in different packaging. However, the standards and rigor are much higher. They all have the useless (to most) C-cards, but I'd say PADI hands out learners permits to anyone who can answer a few questions and from there you learn, whereas other agencies ensure you learn before you get your license. Recreational diving is inherently pretty safe if basic rules are followed. I dove 60ft, while on vacation in tropical places, before I ever got certified, so it's not like it requires some amazing amount of skill or anything. But to do it well... does take skill. I was recently buddied up with an advanced PADI diver with tons of dives logged and this person was overweighted, had a 45 degree angle in the water and was just kicking up silt and kicking coral. How can a diver hold various advanced certifications and specialties not have a clue about buoyancy and trim? PADI allows it. Some people say it's the individuals, but if the certification agency allows the instructors to just breeze through everything in 30 minutes, you get what you get.
My instructors were with NAUI and I couldn't be happier to have ended up with that agency. My instructors held me to a very high standard and we spent lots of time practising skills until they were satisfied, they were completely willing to fail me if I didn't meet their standards (beyond the minimum requirements) and I was very glad for that.. I don't want to be certified if I'm not safe yet! Passing the course gave me an immense sense of pride because I'd worked so hard for it, and I feel that I'm a safer diver because of that. I can't wait to get some real dives under my belt and start really honing the skills I've learnt!
Great Video James. A DoJo I taught at years ago had a T-Shirt "Taekwondo, the STD of Martial Arts, everyone has it, no one wants it". I never realized how many people comment on videos without watching the video before this one. So many PADI supporters, restating what you said. facepalm. PADI clean 4 years. My business cards, website and other advertising material no longer state any agency, just Scuba Diving Instructor. AS you stated, its about the instructor, not the brand.
I remember a bunch of us sitting around a tailgate at Ginnie having lunch and the PADI topic came up, IIRC every single diver there (a mixed group of cave instructors, full cave divers, and cave students) had some relationship with PADI. Either initial certification or as a professional.
I love PADI for making the books cheaper than the e-learning. So, to have competitive prices, I need to drive to the city to pick up the books I order and it wastes my time. Thanks PADI for making e-learning so god damn expensive!
I would say that SSI is waaaay ahead when it comes to digital platform. For me, it's great not to have to hold materials. I'm only a one man band, and in the last week or so i have thrown about £1,500 worth of Padi materials in the bin because they were superseded and out of date. And i've still got a few hundred quids worth of online and paper PIC.
I prefer NAUI. Why you may ask its because PADI go fast so beginners might not learn as well. Once they go free diving without a pro/trainer and something bad happens it could be fatal because they didnt know how to get out of the type of situation. But NAUI takes learning to a whole new height and they might get saved from what they learned in NAUI. Agree or disagree leave a comment.
It’s the shop and the instructors that makes the difference i.e. PADI goes out of their way to reach out to new folks ,not so vague they don’t talk over or down to you in the training easier to learn online TDI is the way to go for tech (hear comes the haters) maybe because I got a great instructor (no maybe’s about it)
It doesn't matter where you lern diving, the main thing is the Instructor ! Is your Instructor a good one and the right one for you than everything is fine. Padi, SSI, CMAS, TDI, SDI, ProRecTEc ............ ok :D PADI= Pay Another Dollar In ;D kind regards from Germany
Nice video. I'm only an OW diver at the moment and yes, it was with PADI. I went through PADI because I live in Colorado Springs, Colorado and we only have one dive shop. I'm not sure what all Denver has, but PADI was close and convenient; and as a noob, I had no idea about the different agencies, how good they were, etc. However, this was back in 2014 when I became OW certified and since then, my local dive shop has changed over to SSI. This makes me happy and sad at the same time. I'm happy because now I'll get to experience multiple training techniques, but sad because I like consistency. Next month, my wife and I will be going through the Advanced OW course (or whatever SSI calls it) here locally with our SSI shop. They say there's no problem with mixing and matching between agencies, so hopefully no big deal on that front. Towards the end of this year, we'll be temporarily moving to Hawaii for a 4 to 5 months so I can start training with a PADI dive shop to pick up with Rescue Diver and go through OWSI (and MSDT if we can finish that course in time to be back before my son's high school graduation in May of 2021). So why would I choose a PADI shop now, if my local shop is SSI? Post 9/11 GI Bill. That's right. I'm retired Air Force and I have just enough of my Post 9/11 GI Bill left to get me all the way through becoming a scuba instructor. However, there are only a handful of places between the mainland and Hawaii who participate in these veteran programs. Out of all the dive shops on the Hawaiian islands, there's only one place left which offers the veteran program. So it's either become a scuba instructor here in Colorado where training is done in a reservoirs and sink holes; or get paid to live in Hawaii and maybe get to see some amazing marine life every single time we go out. Yeah, we're definitely going to Hawaii. If I end up working at the dive shop here in Colorado Springs, they already told me that I'd just have go through a cross-over course to learn how SSI teaches certain things vs what I learned under PADI. That's actually pretty nice because I'll get to see how both organizations train. So it still sounds like everything will workout just fine. And by the end of all this, I'll be an SSI instructor after all.
Always interesting to hear another dive school commenting on padi diver training lol I did my open water diver training with padi in Turkey but it was no 3 days lol It was 7 days , 8 hrs per day and it was a good job we had booked for two weeks or our holiday would have been ruined, there was NOTHING petty about the training , it was gruelling and took up my evenings as well reading this thick book we were given but I got 98% and passed . I see no problem with Padi
I started off with SSI because they taught the class at my college (SSI was headquartered in Ft. Collins, CO at the time, and yes, I went to Colorado State Univ). Later on I became a PADI professional while living in SoCal. The dive shop I trained through was both SSI & PADI, and I found out that as PADI OWSI I could teach independently (it was a side job for me). SSI didn't allow independent instructors at that time. Anyway, I was a PADI professional (DM, OWSI, MSDT) for 15 years (1990-2005). Finally gave up teaching because my real job was requiring too much travel for clients. I can agree with most of your points, and I remember when some of the programs you spoke about were put into place. I wasn't happy about the drop in minimum age requirements, and some of the "shortening" of the training program I thought wasn't a good idea. But PADI was responding to consumer demand, and at times they did this when the economy wasn't good in order to keep revenue going for themselves and dive shops. Diving is an expensive hobby, and when the economy isn't good people will not spend money on a specialty sport.Admittedly PADI has helped the dive industry in a lot of respects, admit it. But they have also been too aggressive with the "quickie" certification programs.
Hey James just want to leave a little comment for you. I know some people consider Patty as an abbreviated training agency and this may be so I've never trained with another agency so I couldn't say, but I feel like with Patty or any agency as far as that's concerned ultimately training is left up to the individual. You learn the basics in the in the Patty training agency. What you do with it from there it's up to you. A good diver knows that you can never get enough training. When you feel like you've learned everything you need to know about diving, quit diving because you are no longer safe and possibly a danger to other divers. If you feel like your training isn't up to par, then practice your skills until they're perfect or nearly perfect. Any agency can teach you the basics it is up to you to improve and perfect them, and that goes to say with any agency no matter where you trained. And if you feel like this still isn't enough take another training session with another agency if you feel more comfortable. But, remember the quality of your skills will only show what you put into them. No agency is going to make you a perfect diver, that is up to the individual. Practice practice practice that's the only way the quality of your skills will improve.
I'm PADI OW certified. I didn't "choose" PADI. PADI was the shop on the tiny island I was visiting when I decided to try scuba. I really liked my instructor. He was friendly and cheerful and helpful. And in retrospect I think he certified me when I was not really competent. (Not his fault: I demonstrated the skills that PADI requires.) PADI didn't make me a safe diver. I survived my years of scuba because the dive industry makes VERY reliable dive gear. Never hold your breath, never ascend fast, never neglect your safety stop, set your computer to "conservative" and you've got a good chance of surviving your own incompetence. When I became aware of a near-accident of a fellow diver, I decided I needed to master a skill that PADI never mentioned: disconnecting the inflator hose in the event of a stuck-open inflator valve. It turned out to be very difficult for me. I greatly enjoyed scuba all the years I did it, but I feel that PADI turned me loose without adequate skills.
Hi James, Love your videos. I was padi certified in 1982. Then as now it's hard to find another agency where I live. I am moving to Florida soon and will see what is offered by others. Keep up the good work, and when I get to Florida I would love to look you up.
Ive been a PADI instructor since 1992 and I love the brand recognition, have always gotten fast service for my questions/etc, and have never been disappointed as an instructor or PADI dive center owner. Diving is a global activity and PADI is a globally recognized and consistent training agency. Yes, they do stand for "Put Another Dollar In". But I feel it's a good value.
Hi James: only just seen this video: sorry for my tardiness. Looks like you’ve enjoyed a couple of sherries after Christmas Dinner there. 🥳 Really love your stuff: apart from the music bed: no need for it when I’m trying to listen to what you’re saying. Also, when is the next live chat?
I totally agree that's it's the instructor that matters. I've been certified since 1975 by YScuba now SEI. Hardest scuba course I've ever taken including all others that followed. I'm a master diver with ACUC and about 10 years ago decided to accompany my wife and kids in their PADI open water certification. The course was a sausage factory. Push them in and push them out. It wasn't the material, It was a bad LDS and instructors.
If you go to another country slash dive site PADI is the way. Even though in the US you have several options. I have PADI and NAUI certs. Glad to hear you teach public safety diver. As a fireman on out local dive team I have DART and PSD. Super classes. But work diving isn't half as fun as rec diving! #finding bodies and gunsisntfun!
I came up through SDI. Now doing DM through PADI. Mostly because I found a PADI shop that I really like but also because of the numbers game. PADI DM makes you much more employable.
Totally agree on the only bad instructors comment. All my certs are PADI, my OW instructor was amazing. My AOW was not, there was even a close call on the deep dive.
@@MBTQ old programs, no changes, lack of quality of programs, lack of quality of professionals, prices too high, but mainly because PADI means fast track and cheap courses
@@cmfamonteiro i can agree on the prices being too high, i dont know about hidden fees and i still didnt meet the professionals. Do you recommend doing instructor courses with other agencies, if so what agency you think is the best and for what reasons?
@@MBTQ hi again, I can highly recommend my agency TDISDI it is very well represented all over the world, but SSI has also very good learning materials and I think there are plenty instructor trainers all around. Talk to instructor trainers from both agencies and make an informed decision.
Like you, I am a recreational instructor, technical instructor, and public safety diving instructor. The training agency you teach for, I did too. As the dive officer for a major public safety dive team, they seemed to make sense, that is until I saw how unresponsive to our needs they were. Maybe they are better for you in South Florida, but not for us on the west coast. The were very unresponsive to our needs, always late with certifications and their billing department was horrible. We left them (I wish they would remove all our pictures from their materials because I am embarrassed we are on there). I have never had a customer service problem with PADI - doesn't mean I will not, but since I have been with them as an instructor (Since 2006) I haven't. Also, you asked us to comment that old saying, "there is no bad training agency only bad instructors." I somewhat disagree and somewhat agree. The agency you teach for, allowed me to cross over as an instructor in a hotel lobby in four hours. Yep, four hours!! In those four hours, I was allowed to be a recreational instructor, technical instructor and public safety diving instructor and have ALL the 20+ cards to prove it. No one from that agency saw me in the water or in a class room to see if I actually knew what I was talking about. So, I blame the agency for that one. I have been trained by instructors from IANTD, TDI, PADI, NAUI, UTD, and NSS-CDS, I can honestly say the standards from all of them are very similar, but the instructors vary. I have seen bad instructors from every agency.
I guess the first thing to realize is that PADI was created to make a living for the people that created it. All of the subsequent courses after OW are to help PADI and instructors make a profit. Otherwise, who would be an instructor as a career if you couldn't support yourself. I have been told by most instructors I've met, that they don't make a lot of money for the hours spent teaching OW. Most of the money goes to PADI and the store or dive center. This is why ConEd is so important in the PADI world. PADI gets a cut through the certification cards, the stores/dive centers get a cut through gear sales, but the instructors get a much larger part of the proceeds. I have been through PADI and NAUI open water courses, they are pretty similar, but I thought the NAUI course was a little harder. Having been with a lot of new divers, I have come to the conclusion that the 4 open water qualification dives are not enough. Sure, most people can get by. I think they should add at least one final dive where the new divers are required to complete a dive from step one to coming out of the water without any assistance from the instructors. The instructors should be there and follow throughout and the certification is given only after the dive(s) are completed. Kinda like a solo flight by new pilots.
I’ve been away from diving for 18 years. OH how things have changed. In 2005 I was instructing at a dive shop part time and diving every weekend. Either with students on open water dives in a lake or off the east coast. ( Shout out to “Olympus dive center” Morehead Nc. some of the best wreck diving in the world. ) In 2003 the question was which one is better NAUI or PADI ? 2022 it’s PADI or SSI ? I worked DEMA the fall 2003 and went to a SSI pitch where they where promoting their agency. Up to that point most people knew SSI as a 1 day quick cruse ship class, a joke really, For blowing bubbles at 20 feet in the Caribbean. I was diving with Olympus dive shop one morning getting tanks filled, signing the roster and showing my card. A lady showed her SSI card and the shop wouldn’t let her dive. They said she could go and snorkel but not dive. The dive was 136’ to the sand, this was not a shallow dive. In the late 90 - early 2000s people would come in the shop with SSI resort cards who had been turned down to dive because they had no proper training. At the DEMA in Miami 2003 SSI was pitching a new program more in line with PADI values and training BUT catering to the shop not the instructor. PADI and NAUI instructors where independent of the dive shop or resort. but an SSI instructor has to be affiliated with a dive shop to certify a student. Skip ahead 19 years and the question is PADI OR SSI. NAUI is the best because it never sold out to money like PADI (PUT ANOTHER DOLLAR IN.) Or SSI. ( SUB STANDARD INSTRUCTOR. ) PADI does charge you for everything they can but their books and training aids are 2nd to none and the information PADI instructors impart is top notch. The best trained instructor is a NAUI instructor because of the training corse. By 2005 the dive shop I worked had switched to SSI certification but could do any card you wanted because the owner was a NAUI corse director. PADI SSI and all the rest of the agency’s just gave it to him. NAUI is a nonprofit organization and their motto is “Dive Safety Through Education
Yep, I started with NAUI in '95 the knowledge we got back then is so much more than the knowledge PADI peeps are getting now. I was so comfortable after my class that the very next weekend My buddy and I were diving off his boat and I never once questioned my training. The funny thing is I just happened to run into my instructor at the boat ramp He just smiled and said that's what I trained you to do. Over the years I have taken classes through Naui, Padi, TDI, and NSS-CDS, and the Padi was the most rushed and least knowledgeable.
Bit hard to imagine certification in 3 days. My training is from a PADI dive center and my OW was over a period of weeks with mix of classroom and pool before even looking at an open water dive. Compressing that into three days doesn’t seem possible.
This is the 2nd video that I've seen talking about PADI. I've been a PADI certified diver for 30 years. I like their courses and the response from their corporate office. It's a world recognized program so showing that little card gets me the equipment I need when I'm on vacation. I'll continue to get PADI certifications. #PADIdiver
Padi dm myself, I love padi, i feel some other agencies love to padi bash, yes there are bad instructors out there that just want to push certs through, but also very knowledgeable, skilled instructors and dm,s that go above and beyond to produce safe compident divers, I feel jealousy is sometimes the underlying cause of padi bashing. Keep up the great work James, love your videos, I feel you always give a fair appraisal and honest personal views.
The shop that I use is a PADI shop so it was an easy choice for me, plus they took the GI Bill. I have given thought to crossing over to SDI as I feel their digital course offerings are better.
I had a friend who worked at PADI (not exactly sure what he did) in Southern California. I ended up doing all my rescue diver and DM pool skills at the "PADI pool". Not as impressive as you might imagine.
Thank you for the great content James. If haven’t said which agency you was qualified pre-master diver and also which agency are you with now. As this started like why do you hate PADI .... why do you love PADI, etc, etc .... still the name PADI name is said more and more times which gives them even more recognition. In terms of certification my dry-suit is PADI and I am still with open water only (about 50 dives) is with NAUI ... my reason is that all my friends are NAUI instructors and I only trust them on taking me to the next level (safety first). From my little experience I had twice PADI advanced diver as a buddy and both of them I had to babysit in the water because honestly their neutral buoyancy was close to zero and they have struggled with simple situations. So just out of curiosity could you please name agencies you work with ;)
I agree with all your points and well done on a great balanced video. Your careful not to mention the one agency you teach under now however you say that you teach OW and Tek. So which agencys covers OW up to say full Cave Diver?
SDI and it’s sister company TDI. Technical diving and more involved is all TDI. SDI does a computer diver nitrox course, TDI offers a nitrox course as well, but it’s more in depth
I know I played this on 1.5 speed, but did I hear you say something good about the PADI mobile app? It's got a rating of around 1.8/5 on both major app stores. It doesn't do anything. It's an app that's mostly a web view to the PADI website, many links return a 404. But to your other points I think that at the recreational level people shouldn't develop an attachment to a particular agency, but rather a dive shop(s) and instructor(s), and pick the one that works for them. A lot of what you said are arguments for choosing an agency at the professional level - being a PADI pro gets you more places you can work at and has that name recognition.
Every business is in business to make money! How you do that determines whether or not you stay in business. If the organization provides value and helps you stay in business, then they've done their job and earned another day out there doing business. I agree, that at the end of the day, it's the person you come in contact with that will earn your loyalty and respect or lose it. Agencies today are are pretty equal, so bag on any of them, especially PADI? I think it's better to, as instructors, to focus on how to provide the best service and or products for our customers so they not only find value in what we provide, but are safe and find what they've been looking for in coming to you in the 1st place.
They're definitely not all the same. They teach the same materials, but the standards are different. At least that's my experience as a student, not an instructor.
PADI is not nessessairly better. Just more dive shop's are connected to PADI. I liked the classes at NASDS and NAUI. NASDS merged into SSI. Both of these are agencies are/were dive shop related groups. Lot's of SCUBA training programs at Universities are related to NAUI. I guess it has to do with the non-profit status of NAUI. The one interesting thing PADI brought to the diving world was the PADI Wheel for a dive table. Was able to get more overall underwater time since it did not calculate your time restrictions at only your deepest depth.
A good instructor will still give those tidbits that make make your skills easier/better/safer regardless of syllabus requirements. Yes, of course cover the s required material, but that added value can only come from an instructor who is passionate about sharing their knowledge to improve others lives. Padi’s e-learning app is terrible in my opinion. It really needs to be improved considering people are paying $195 a pop. The down side is you’re missing the opportunity to get those extra nuggets from a live instructor in the classroom. True, I can learn in my underwear with e-learning, but it depends on what you’re going for I guess.
I’ve come from BSAC then went to PADI, I’ve been looking at maybe going with INTD I like the way they do things and they are far more professional I think.
Hi Jay, your right with your thinking. I think personally they are the best but dont forget your journey and where you started. Their a specialised technical diver organisation and dont teach the basics. They start where PADI stops. All the other agency's help plant the diving seed and keep it growing. Eventually you grow too large for your pot and you choose someone like IANTD or GUE for you next step. They are both very similar but maybe GUE is a little tighter on standards and equipment
I think its a cultural thing. Padi was fast and dirty, cheap and popular, easy to get into. BSAC was hardcore, within ten dives you were down to 50m with a crowbar and lump hammer! It matters not, every dive is a solo dive, know the risks, understand the physics, look at it for what it is.
I have chosen to stick with PADI until I become an instructor. That way it's all through one agency. Now after the Instructor status then I think I want to switch to another agency. Also, The shops around me keep playing the agency of the year game. One year they are PADI then the next they are SSI I think they are going to NAUI next year. Merry Christmas to you and yours
My dad got a certification through pdic and they can't find his card online or anything they have no record of him but he paid $500 I paid $500 for my Padi certification my instructors were awesome my dad wants to switch to PADI if he finds his card the receipt or his log book p a d I will make you do a reactivate dive and then now you are a padi diver thats sick
Very funny ! LOL ! Please I’d like to hear you on the “Deep Diver” specialty which I was considering at one point but many puzzling comments and unsatisfying answers . Thank you :)
Hi there I hope this doesn't sound too stupid but what's the difference between Paddy's and BSAC is there much of a difference' but either way have a great Christmas and a Happy New Year
Well, BSAC (Bloody Slow and Careful)😀 is U.K. but doesn't mean a thing in Asia. NAUI is north American and doesn't qualify you for anything in Europe and so on. PADI, despite their flaws and the fast track half-assed certification you get in the popular dive vacation destinations, is recognised everywhere and you may need that card(s) to be allowed on some dives.
BSAC is a uk based training agency. It is recognised all over the world. But is very small compared to other agencies. The biggest difference between the 2 is that PADI course I'd quick only taking 4 days. But with BSAC couse it's a diving club system in the uk all the instructor teach it voluntary with a full time job so it could take you up to 10 weeks or more to get certified with them. Depending on what diver grade your doing. I'm both PADI and BSAC
@@kylelp3000 Well I've seen differently... In Mexico NAUI was accepted, but BSAC and CMAS no go for a deep dive. In Vietnam 2 American tourists with NAUI OW were refused, they had to take a PADI OW. Of course twice it was a (mainly) PADI dive shop and they may have been motivated for extra $$$, But on holidays PADI and SSI seem to be more widely accepted.
I have no use for scuba snobs regardless If their agency snobs Or gear snobs peri'm not saying you can't have your opinion and James please don't take this wrong.
PADI have now stopped issuing the plastic cards and gone to the ecard but not dropped the prices of the course RIP OFF ... if you don’t have a mobile iPad or computer how the hell do you access the ecard ... there answer is it’s to save the ocean from plastic 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 yes we all take our cards diving with us ... the PADI centre I use is really thinking about dropping them and moving to a better agency ... time PADI realised who pays there wages 🇬🇧🤿
Why PADI sucks? They don't train their students right (not all of them). They use way too long theory-classes that could be used to teach the students in an actual diving-enviroment (learning by doing!), sometimes they use not enough theory-lessons! They are still not using long backup-hoses and leave the Back-Up-hose dangling wherever." - - (why are short yellow backup-hoses still a thing?! And they both run through the same Bridge) They don't teach buoyancy as the first thing and let their studendts SIT or WALK across the ocean-floor during their lessons! " - -
Try an air share drill with an Air2 diver. In most cases, it will be a horrible experience. They never learned primary donation, but use it. It that case, dangling yellow secondary looks a lot more safely.
@@complicatedmechanics9599 tbh.. I can't understand how this is supposed to be safer. A panicked diver can rip the hose out of your mouth. The longhose gives you enough space between you and the panicked diver.
@@doctopus4970 I think you misunderstand me. I mean, it's safer to use equipment that you are trained to use. If you don't know how to use a long hose / short hose / yellow dangling hose / whatever you shouldn't use it. // PADI theory sucks all the way too. I don't know any other agencies where you can end an ow class without any idea about gas management and dive planning.
A very blinkered view, I also know of students that have moved from other agencies because their instructors were crap and come over to padi, its nothing to do with the agency brand, there are great instructors in all camps, and also very poor ones in all camps also
For me, it is not a matter of liking or disliking PADI. I live in the middle of my state and the shops in the surrounding counties are PADI certification agencies. Yes, I could travel down South East or to the West coast or to Europe to get a cert from another agency but that would add far more cost to it and I would be limited to when I could get there.
Fortunately, the local shop I dive with has good instructors. They also encourage skills practice after the course (my son and I take advantage of the pool sessions) and they encourage expanded personal learning. I have purchased manuals and watched videos from other agencies to learn their ideas on different aspects of diving.
I am a SCUBA diver. I am not a PADI diver. The PADI card give me a thing to show the boat captain or the local quarry when they want to know my training level.
How 'bout a video on the differences between PADI, SSI, NAUI, CMAS or however many other agencies are there. Thank you!
The main difference is framework. I can't speak for NAUI, but I can speak for PADI, SSI, and SDI. PADI is the most restrictive. You must teach things in a specific order (many PADI instructors ignore the requirement in CW4 to do the free flowing regulator skill, and move it to the end of CW5. Due to the cost of pool time and therefore limited pool time, most PADI instructors skip the "handling emergencies' part in CW5).
Also in PADI, you are not allowed to add sensible performance requirements. Most con ed courses are fluff as a result.
SSI has more flexibility and allows instructor to move things around. This came in handy for me when teaching a class when I could no longer equalize on the first of two pool sessions. No problem, I did all the surface skills instead for the rest of the session and then completed all underwater skills the next day. It makes sense for some skills to be progressive, but others that are not related (diver tow) it shouldn't matter at all. SSI does have a process briefly described in standards for adding performance requirements, which if memory serves me, allows an instructor to add sensible performance requirements. It starts with the shop before going to HQ if I'm not mistaken.
SDI (and NAUI as far as I understand) allow an instructor to add performance requirements/dives. This can make con ed courses much more valuable. Not all SDI/NAUI instructors take advantage of this unfortunately, but those that do, those are the kinds of instructors that people should seek out. The problem is that most people don't know the difference.
Nice Simply Scuba shirt! Great to see chanels respect one another, keep up the great videos James!
When I went for my OW certification I really didn't know anything about the agencies, so I wasn't "looking for PADI." It found me. It's a chicken/egg thing. After getting certified I felt like I received a participation trophy, rather than actual instruction. I've switched to other agencies and find the instruction content to be pretty much the same in different packaging. However, the standards and rigor are much higher. They all have the useless (to most) C-cards, but I'd say PADI hands out learners permits to anyone who can answer a few questions and from there you learn, whereas other agencies ensure you learn before you get your license.
Recreational diving is inherently pretty safe if basic rules are followed. I dove 60ft, while on vacation in tropical places, before I ever got certified, so it's not like it requires some amazing amount of skill or anything. But to do it well... does take skill. I was recently buddied up with an advanced PADI diver with tons of dives logged and this person was overweighted, had a 45 degree angle in the water and was just kicking up silt and kicking coral. How can a diver hold various advanced certifications and specialties not have a clue about buoyancy and trim? PADI allows it. Some people say it's the individuals, but if the certification agency allows the instructors to just breeze through everything in 30 minutes, you get what you get.
My instructors were with NAUI and I couldn't be happier to have ended up with that agency. My instructors held me to a very high standard and we spent lots of time practising skills until they were satisfied, they were completely willing to fail me if I didn't meet their standards (beyond the minimum requirements) and I was very glad for that.. I don't want to be certified if I'm not safe yet! Passing the course gave me an immense sense of pride because I'd worked so hard for it, and I feel that I'm a safer diver because of that. I can't wait to get some real dives under my belt and start really honing the skills I've learnt!
Great Video James. A DoJo I taught at years ago had a T-Shirt "Taekwondo, the STD of Martial Arts, everyone has it, no one wants it". I never realized how many people comment on videos without watching the video before this one. So many PADI supporters, restating what you said. facepalm. PADI clean 4 years.
My business cards, website and other advertising material no longer state any agency, just Scuba Diving Instructor. AS you stated, its about the instructor, not the brand.
I remember a bunch of us sitting around a tailgate at Ginnie having lunch and the PADI topic came up, IIRC every single diver there (a mixed group of cave instructors, full cave divers, and cave students) had some relationship with PADI. Either initial certification or as a professional.
I didn’t intend to go with PADI when in Cancun for OWD. Quickly learned that it’s an acronym for Put Another Dollar In 🤣
I love PADI for making the books cheaper than the e-learning. So, to have competitive prices, I need to drive to the city to pick up the books I order and it wastes my time. Thanks PADI for making e-learning so god damn expensive!
Four years clean now... Love it!!
I am happy with Padi initially, but years later have been doing my training with Naui! Great stuff and people!
I would say that SSI is waaaay ahead when it comes to digital platform. For me, it's great not to have to hold materials. I'm only a one man band, and in the last week or so i have thrown about £1,500 worth of Padi materials in the bin because they were superseded and out of date. And i've still got a few hundred quids worth of online and paper PIC.
I prefer NAUI. Why you may ask its because PADI go fast so beginners might not learn as well. Once they go free diving without a pro/trainer and something bad happens it could be fatal because they didnt know how to get out of the type of situation. But NAUI takes learning to a whole new height and they might get saved from what they learned in NAUI. Agree or disagree leave a comment.
Hi James I’m from the future and can tell you that having a safe 2020 will be very important thing indeed.
It’s the shop and the instructors that makes the difference i.e. PADI goes out of their way to reach out to new folks ,not so vague they don’t talk over or down to you in the training easier to learn online
TDI is the way to go for tech (hear comes the haters) maybe because I got a great instructor (no maybe’s about it)
It doesn't matter where you lern diving, the main thing is the Instructor ! Is your Instructor a good one and the right one for you than everything is fine. Padi, SSI, CMAS, TDI, SDI, ProRecTEc ............ ok :D PADI= Pay Another Dollar In ;D kind regards from Germany
Nice video. I'm only an OW diver at the moment and yes, it was with PADI. I went through PADI because I live in Colorado Springs, Colorado and we only have one dive shop. I'm not sure what all Denver has, but PADI was close and convenient; and as a noob, I had no idea about the different agencies, how good they were, etc. However, this was back in 2014 when I became OW certified and since then, my local dive shop has changed over to SSI. This makes me happy and sad at the same time.
I'm happy because now I'll get to experience multiple training techniques, but sad because I like consistency. Next month, my wife and I will be going through the Advanced OW course (or whatever SSI calls it) here locally with our SSI shop. They say there's no problem with mixing and matching between agencies, so hopefully no big deal on that front. Towards the end of this year, we'll be temporarily moving to Hawaii for a 4 to 5 months so I can start training with a PADI dive shop to pick up with Rescue Diver and go through OWSI (and MSDT if we can finish that course in time to be back before my son's high school graduation in May of 2021). So why would I choose a PADI shop now, if my local shop is SSI? Post 9/11 GI Bill.
That's right. I'm retired Air Force and I have just enough of my Post 9/11 GI Bill left to get me all the way through becoming a scuba instructor. However, there are only a handful of places between the mainland and Hawaii who participate in these veteran programs. Out of all the dive shops on the Hawaiian islands, there's only one place left which offers the veteran program. So it's either become a scuba instructor here in Colorado where training is done in a reservoirs and sink holes; or get paid to live in Hawaii and maybe get to see some amazing marine life every single time we go out. Yeah, we're definitely going to Hawaii.
If I end up working at the dive shop here in Colorado Springs, they already told me that I'd just have go through a cross-over course to learn how SSI teaches certain things vs what I learned under PADI. That's actually pretty nice because I'll get to see how both organizations train. So it still sounds like everything will workout just fine. And by the end of all this, I'll be an SSI instructor after all.
Always interesting to hear another dive school commenting on padi diver training lol
I did my open water diver training with padi in Turkey but it was no 3 days lol
It was 7 days , 8 hrs per day and it was a good job we had booked for two weeks or our holiday would have been ruined, there was NOTHING petty about the training , it was gruelling and took up my evenings as well reading this thick book we were given but I got 98% and passed .
I see no problem with Padi
I started off with SSI because they taught the class at my college (SSI was headquartered in Ft. Collins, CO at the time, and yes, I went to Colorado State Univ). Later on I became a PADI professional while living in SoCal. The dive shop I trained through was both SSI & PADI, and I found out that as PADI OWSI I could teach independently (it was a side job for me). SSI didn't allow independent instructors at that time. Anyway, I was a PADI professional (DM, OWSI, MSDT) for 15 years (1990-2005). Finally gave up teaching because my real job was requiring too much travel for clients.
I can agree with most of your points, and I remember when some of the programs you spoke about were put into place. I wasn't happy about the drop in minimum age requirements, and some of the "shortening" of the training program I thought wasn't a good idea. But PADI was responding to consumer demand, and at times they did this when the economy wasn't good in order to keep revenue going for themselves and dive shops. Diving is an expensive hobby, and when the economy isn't good people will not spend money on a specialty sport.Admittedly PADI has helped the dive industry in a lot of respects, admit it. But they have also been too aggressive with the "quickie" certification programs.
Hey James just want to leave a little comment for you. I know some people consider Patty as an abbreviated training agency and this may be so I've never trained with another agency so I couldn't say, but I feel like with Patty or any agency as far as that's concerned ultimately training is left up to the individual. You learn the basics in the in the Patty training agency. What you do with it from there it's up to you. A good diver knows that you can never get enough training. When you feel like you've learned everything you need to know about diving, quit diving because you are no longer safe and possibly a danger to other divers. If you feel like your training isn't up to par, then practice your skills until they're perfect or nearly perfect. Any agency can teach you the basics it is up to you to improve and perfect them, and that goes to say with any agency no matter where you trained. And if you feel like this still isn't enough take another training session with another agency if you feel more comfortable. But, remember the quality of your skills will only show what you put into them. No agency is going to make you a perfect diver, that is up to the individual. Practice practice practice that's the only way the quality of your skills will improve.
I'm PADI OW certified. I didn't "choose" PADI. PADI was the shop on the tiny island I was visiting when I decided to try scuba. I really liked my instructor. He was friendly and cheerful and helpful. And in retrospect I think he certified me when I was not really competent. (Not his fault: I demonstrated the skills that PADI requires.) PADI didn't make me a safe diver. I survived my years of scuba because the dive industry makes VERY reliable dive gear. Never hold your breath, never ascend fast, never neglect your safety stop, set your computer to "conservative" and you've got a good chance of surviving your own incompetence. When I became aware of a near-accident of a fellow diver, I decided I needed to master a skill that PADI never mentioned: disconnecting the inflator hose in the event of a stuck-open inflator valve. It turned out to be very difficult for me. I greatly enjoyed scuba all the years I did it, but I feel that PADI turned me loose without adequate skills.
Hi James,
Love your videos.
I was padi certified in 1982.
Then as now it's hard to find another agency where I live.
I am moving to Florida soon and will see what is offered by others. Keep up the good work, and when I get to Florida I would love to look you up.
Ive been a PADI instructor since 1992 and I love the brand recognition, have always gotten fast service for my questions/etc, and have never been disappointed as an instructor or PADI dive center owner. Diving is a global activity and PADI is a globally recognized and consistent training agency. Yes, they do stand for "Put Another Dollar In". But I feel it's a good value.
I agree with this. I think SSI, NAUI, etc are basically the same.
I find that PADI is all that is offered in many areas, and is very well recognized due to that it is everywhere
Hi James: only just seen this video: sorry for my tardiness. Looks like you’ve enjoyed a couple of sherries after Christmas Dinner there. 🥳 Really love your stuff: apart from the music bed: no need for it when I’m trying to listen to what you’re saying. Also, when is the next live chat?
I totally agree that's it's the instructor that matters.
I've been certified since 1975 by YScuba now SEI. Hardest scuba course I've ever taken including all others that followed.
I'm a master diver with ACUC and about 10 years ago decided to accompany my wife and kids in their PADI open water certification.
The course was a sausage factory. Push them in and push them out. It wasn't the material, It was a bad LDS and instructors.
If you go to another country slash dive site PADI is the way. Even though in the US you have several options. I have PADI and NAUI certs. Glad to hear you teach public safety diver. As a fireman on out local dive team I have DART and PSD. Super classes. But work diving isn't half as fun as rec diving! #finding bodies and gunsisntfun!
I came up through SDI. Now doing DM through PADI. Mostly because I found a PADI shop that I really like but also because of the numbers game. PADI DM makes you much more employable.
Totally agree on the only bad instructors comment. All my certs are PADI, my OW instructor was amazing. My AOW was not, there was even a close call on the deep dive.
Hi, my name is Carlos and I am an ex PADI instructor. I'm clean for about 2 years..
🤣🤣
What is the reason you quit? Im curious because im aspiring to become one myself
@@MBTQ old programs, no changes, lack of quality of programs, lack of quality of professionals, prices too high, but mainly because PADI means fast track and cheap courses
@@cmfamonteiro i can agree on the prices being too high, i dont know about hidden fees and i still didnt meet the professionals. Do you recommend doing instructor courses with other agencies, if so what agency you think is the best and for what reasons?
@@MBTQ hi again, I can highly recommend my agency TDISDI it is very well represented all over the world, but SSI has also very good learning materials and I think there are plenty instructor trainers all around. Talk to instructor trainers from both agencies and make an informed decision.
@@cmfamonteiro Thank you very much sir, this was very helpful and informative, Have a nice day! 😊
Padi has the largest advertising budget of all the agencies as well.
Like you, I am a recreational instructor, technical instructor, and public safety diving instructor. The training agency you teach for, I did too. As the dive officer for a major public safety dive team, they seemed to make sense, that is until I saw how unresponsive to our needs they were. Maybe they are better for you in South Florida, but not for us on the west coast. The were very unresponsive to our needs, always late with certifications and their billing department was horrible. We left them (I wish they would remove all our pictures from their materials because I am embarrassed we are on there). I have never had a customer service problem with PADI - doesn't mean I will not, but since I have been with them as an instructor (Since 2006) I haven't. Also, you asked us to comment that old saying, "there is no bad training agency only bad instructors." I somewhat disagree and somewhat agree. The agency you teach for, allowed me to cross over as an instructor in a hotel lobby in four hours. Yep, four hours!! In those four hours, I was allowed to be a recreational instructor, technical instructor and public safety diving instructor and have ALL the 20+ cards to prove it. No one from that agency saw me in the water or in a class room to see if I actually knew what I was talking about. So, I blame the agency for that one. I have been trained by instructors from IANTD, TDI, PADI, NAUI, UTD, and NSS-CDS, I can honestly say the standards from all of them are very similar, but the instructors vary. I have seen bad instructors from every agency.
I guess the first thing to realize is that PADI was created to make a living for the people that created it. All of the subsequent courses after OW are to help PADI and instructors make a profit. Otherwise, who would be an instructor as a career if you couldn't support yourself. I have been told by most instructors I've met, that they don't make a lot of money for the hours spent teaching OW. Most of the money goes to PADI and the store or dive center. This is why ConEd is so important in the PADI world. PADI gets a cut through the certification cards, the stores/dive centers get a cut through gear sales, but the instructors get a much larger part of the proceeds. I have been through PADI and NAUI open water courses, they are pretty similar, but I thought the NAUI course was a little harder. Having been with a lot of new divers, I have come to the conclusion that the 4 open water qualification dives are not enough. Sure, most people can get by. I think they should add at least one final dive where the new divers are required to complete a dive from step one to coming out of the water without any assistance from the instructors. The instructors should be there and follow throughout and the certification is given only after the dive(s) are completed. Kinda like a solo flight by new pilots.
Thanks for sharing
I’ve been away from diving for 18 years.
OH how things have changed.
In 2005 I was instructing at a dive shop part time and diving every weekend.
Either with students on open water dives in a lake or off the east coast. ( Shout out to “Olympus dive center” Morehead Nc. some of the best wreck diving in the world. )
In 2003 the question was which one is better NAUI or PADI ?
2022 it’s PADI or SSI ?
I worked DEMA the fall 2003 and went to a SSI pitch where they where promoting their agency.
Up to that point most people knew SSI as a 1 day quick cruse ship class,
a joke really, For blowing bubbles at 20 feet in the Caribbean.
I was diving with Olympus dive shop one morning getting tanks filled, signing the roster and showing my card.
A lady showed her SSI card and the shop wouldn’t let her dive. They said she could go and snorkel but not dive.
The dive was 136’ to the sand, this was not a shallow dive.
In the late 90 - early 2000s people would come in the shop with SSI resort cards who had been turned down to dive because they had no proper training.
At the DEMA in Miami 2003 SSI was pitching a new program more in line with PADI values and training BUT catering to the shop not the instructor.
PADI and NAUI instructors where independent of the dive shop or resort.
but an SSI instructor has to be affiliated with a dive shop to certify a student.
Skip ahead 19 years and the question is
PADI OR SSI.
NAUI is the best because it never sold out to money like PADI
(PUT ANOTHER DOLLAR IN.)
Or SSI. ( SUB STANDARD INSTRUCTOR. )
PADI does charge you for everything they can but their books and training aids are 2nd to none and the information PADI instructors impart is top notch.
The best trained instructor is a NAUI instructor because of the training corse.
By 2005 the dive shop I worked had switched to SSI certification but could do any card you wanted because the owner was a NAUI corse director.
PADI SSI and all the rest of the agency’s just gave it to him.
NAUI is a nonprofit organization and their motto is “Dive Safety Through Education
It all comes down to the instructor at the end of the day. Good instructor = good student.
@@DiversReady TRUE
Yep, I started with NAUI in '95 the knowledge we got back then is so much more than the knowledge PADI peeps are getting now. I was so comfortable after my class that the very next weekend My buddy and I were diving off his boat and I never once questioned my training. The funny thing is I just happened to run into my instructor at the boat ramp He just smiled and said that's what I trained you to do. Over the years I have taken classes through Naui, Padi, TDI, and NSS-CDS, and the Padi was the most rushed and least knowledgeable.
Bit hard to imagine certification in 3 days. My training is from a PADI dive center and my OW was over a period of weeks with mix of classroom and pool before even looking at an open water dive. Compressing that into three days doesn’t seem possible.
great video as always. have a fantastic xmas and new year.
This is the 2nd video that I've seen talking about PADI. I've been a PADI certified diver for 30 years. I like their courses and the response from their corporate office. It's a world recognized program so showing that little card gets me the equipment I need when I'm on vacation. I'll continue to get PADI certifications. #PADIdiver
Padi dm myself, I love padi, i feel some other agencies love to padi bash, yes there are bad instructors out there that just want to push certs through, but also very knowledgeable, skilled instructors and dm,s that go above and beyond to produce safe compident divers, I feel jealousy is sometimes the underlying cause of padi bashing.
Keep up the great work James, love your videos, I feel you always give a fair appraisal and honest personal views.
The shop that I use is a PADI shop so it was an easy choice for me, plus they took the GI Bill. I have given thought to crossing over to SDI as I feel their digital course offerings are better.
I had a friend who worked at PADI (not exactly sure what he did) in Southern California. I ended up doing all my rescue diver and DM pool skills at the "PADI pool". Not as impressive as you might imagine.
Working mobile APP? Haha that's funny
But is is actually working.
Thank you for the great content James. If haven’t said which agency you was qualified pre-master diver and also which agency are you with now.
As this started like why do you hate PADI .... why do you love PADI, etc, etc .... still the name PADI name is said more and more times which gives them even more recognition. In terms of certification my dry-suit is PADI and I am still with open water only (about 50 dives) is with NAUI ... my reason is that all my friends are NAUI instructors and I only trust them on taking me to the next level (safety first).
From my little experience I had twice PADI advanced diver as a buddy and both of them I had to babysit in the water because honestly their neutral buoyancy was close to zero and they have struggled with simple situations.
So just out of curiosity could you please name agencies you work with ;)
That's some serious backscatter.
Im a scuba diver with PADI ☺
Interested in reviews of the other agencies.
I agree with all your points and well done on a great balanced video. Your careful not to mention the one agency you teach under now however you say that you teach OW and Tek. So which agencys covers OW up to say full Cave Diver?
SDI and it’s sister company TDI. Technical diving and more involved is all TDI.
SDI does a computer diver nitrox course, TDI offers a nitrox course as well, but it’s more in depth
I know I played this on 1.5 speed, but did I hear you say something good about the PADI mobile app? It's got a rating of around 1.8/5 on both major app stores. It doesn't do anything. It's an app that's mostly a web view to the PADI website, many links return a 404. But to your other points I think that at the recreational level people shouldn't develop an attachment to a particular agency, but rather a dive shop(s) and instructor(s), and pick the one that works for them. A lot of what you said are arguments for choosing an agency at the professional level - being a PADI pro gets you more places you can work at and has that name recognition.
I know your comment is old, but I love the PADI app for quick/easy log book.
Every business is in business to make money! How you do that determines whether or not you stay in business. If the organization provides value and helps you stay in business, then they've done their job and earned another day out there doing business. I agree, that at the end of the day, it's the person you come in contact with that will earn your loyalty and respect or lose it. Agencies today are are pretty equal, so bag on any of them, especially PADI? I think it's better to, as instructors, to focus on how to provide the best service and or products for our customers so they not only find value in what we provide, but are safe and find what they've been looking for in coming to you in the 1st place.
They're definitely not all the same. They teach the same materials, but the standards are different. At least that's my experience as a student, not an instructor.
Hi James. Can you share the GoPro settings that you use when shooting underwater?
They re set on douche
PADI is not nessessairly better. Just more dive shop's are connected to PADI.
I liked the classes at NASDS and NAUI. NASDS merged into SSI. Both of these are agencies are/were dive shop related groups. Lot's of SCUBA training programs at Universities are related to NAUI. I guess it has to do with the non-profit status of NAUI.
The one interesting thing PADI brought to the diving world was the PADI Wheel for a dive table. Was able to get more overall underwater time since it did not calculate your time restrictions at only your deepest depth.
Nice hat mate! A happy Chrimbo to you and your family....
A good instructor will still give those tidbits that make make your skills easier/better/safer regardless of syllabus requirements. Yes, of course cover the s required material, but that added value can only come from an instructor who is passionate about sharing their knowledge to improve others lives. Padi’s e-learning app is terrible in my opinion. It really needs to be improved considering people are paying $195 a pop. The down side is you’re missing the opportunity to get those extra nuggets from a live instructor in the classroom. True, I can learn in my underwear with e-learning, but it depends on what you’re going for I guess.
I’ve come from BSAC then went to PADI, I’ve been looking at maybe going with INTD I like the way they do things and they are far more professional I think.
Hi Jay, your right with your thinking. I think personally they are the best but dont forget your journey and where you started. Their a specialised technical diver organisation and dont teach the basics. They start where PADI stops.
All the other agency's help plant the diving seed and keep it growing. Eventually you grow too large for your pot and you choose someone like IANTD or GUE for you next step. They are both very similar but maybe GUE is a little tighter on standards and equipment
can you jump between agencies (like you get the open water diver at padi and advanced somewhere else)
Yes, I did my Open Water with SSI and Advanced OW with Padi. Hopefully will do my Rescue Diver with Padi
I think its a cultural thing. Padi was fast and dirty, cheap and popular, easy to get into.
BSAC was hardcore, within ten dives you were down to 50m with a crowbar and lump hammer!
It matters not, every dive is a solo dive, know the risks, understand the physics, look at it for what it is.
I have chosen to stick with PADI until I become an instructor. That way it's all through one agency. Now after the Instructor status then I think I want to switch to another agency. Also, The shops around me keep playing the agency of the year game. One year they are PADI then the next they are SSI I think they are going to NAUI next year.
Merry Christmas to you and yours
My dad got a certification through pdic and they can't find his card online or anything they have no record of him but he paid $500 I paid $500 for my Padi certification my instructors were awesome my dad wants to switch to PADI if he finds his card the receipt or his log book p a d I will make you do a reactivate dive and then now you are a padi diver thats sick
I guess my prospective PADI underwater knife fighting course is not going to go down very well then .
Very funny ! LOL ! Please I’d like to hear you on the “Deep Diver” specialty which I was considering at one point but many puzzling comments and unsatisfying answers . Thank you :)
The mobile app is not that good. The logbook function is a disaster. It does not save what you enter in it.
SSI’s app is far greater than PADI’s IMO...
I wonder what you think of raid
Hi there I hope this doesn't sound too stupid but what's the difference between Paddy's and BSAC is there much of a difference' but either way have a great Christmas and a Happy New Year
Well, BSAC (Bloody Slow and Careful)😀 is U.K. but doesn't mean a thing in Asia.
NAUI is north American and doesn't qualify you for anything in Europe and so on.
PADI, despite their flaws and the fast track half-assed certification you get in the popular dive vacation destinations, is recognised everywhere and you may need that card(s) to be allowed on some dives.
BSAC is a uk based training agency. It is recognised all over the world. But is very small compared to other agencies.
The biggest difference between the 2 is that PADI course I'd quick only taking 4 days. But with BSAC couse it's a diving club system in the uk all the instructor teach it voluntary with a full time job so it could take you up to 10 weeks or more to get certified with them. Depending on what diver grade your doing.
I'm both PADI and BSAC
@@kylelp3000 Well I've seen differently...
In Mexico NAUI was accepted, but BSAC and CMAS no go for a deep dive.
In Vietnam 2 American tourists with NAUI OW were refused, they had to take a PADI OW.
Of course twice it was a (mainly) PADI dive shop and they may have been motivated for extra $$$,
But on holidays PADI and SSI seem to be more widely accepted.
Question how many course do I have to take to become a public safety diver ?
Merry Christmas james
I have no use for scuba snobs regardless If their agency snobs Or gear snobs peri'm not saying you can't have your opinion and James please don't take this wrong.
Excellent
It's a business just like the others.
I got padi. Because they are easiest to access. The rest is so niche and hard to comeby.
I like the book from padi.
So James, , which scuba school are you ??
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PADI has a functional eLearning platform he said..... 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 stop it!
Comming out of my IDC, I realise that PADI have first world bills but third world salaries.
I'd say with matters-app and e-learning - SSI is miles ahead of PADI
4 years clean now…………🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
i only have padi in my country
Who do you train for ?
I generally like your content but ditch the music in the background. It's almost as loud as your voice. Very annoying.
PADI have now stopped issuing the plastic cards and gone to the ecard but not dropped the prices of the course RIP OFF ... if you don’t have a mobile iPad or computer how the hell do you access the ecard ... there answer is it’s to save the ocean from plastic 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 yes we all take our cards diving with us ... the PADI centre I use is really thinking about dropping them and moving to a better agency ... time PADI realised who pays there wages 🇬🇧🤿
I love PADI
You’re bashing PADI in too many of your videos. It comes of as childish, rather than constructive.
Why PADI sucks?
They don't train their students right (not all of them).
They use way too long theory-classes that could be used to teach the students in an actual diving-enviroment (learning by doing!),
sometimes they use not enough theory-lessons!
They are still not using long backup-hoses and leave the Back-Up-hose dangling wherever." - - (why are short yellow backup-hoses still a thing?! And they both run through the same Bridge)
They don't teach buoyancy as the first thing and let their studendts SIT or WALK across the ocean-floor during their lessons! " - -
Try an air share drill with an Air2 diver. In most cases, it will be a horrible experience. They never learned primary donation, but use it. It that case, dangling yellow secondary looks a lot more safely.
@@complicatedmechanics9599 tbh.. I can't understand how this is supposed to be safer. A panicked diver can rip the hose out of your mouth.
The longhose gives you enough space between you and the panicked diver.
@@doctopus4970 I think you misunderstand me. I mean, it's safer to use equipment that you are trained to use. If you don't know how to use a long hose / short hose / yellow dangling hose / whatever you shouldn't use it.
// PADI theory sucks all the way too. I don't know any other agencies where you can end an ow class without any idea about gas management and dive planning.
A very blinkered view, I also know of students that have moved from other agencies because their instructors were crap and come over to padi, its nothing to do with the agency brand, there are great instructors in all camps, and also very poor ones in all camps also
Scuda Divers lol
PADI's divers only dive in the footbath, let the place too true divers 😂👍
Look kids, this is what I call a scummy diver. Better be a scuba diver than this.