Commander Clash: OG Commander Legends | Akroma vs. Baron Sengir vs. Kamahl vs. Sakashima | S9E20
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- Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2020
- How do these decades-old commanders compare to 2020 designs? Let's find out!
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Игры
It's "bolt the bird" after Lightning bolt, so the analogue would be "always plow the elf".
Kinky
pls no
-Demons- Elves aren't for sexual, they are for killing
Santa?
Love me some Llanowar ass amirite?
Shoutout to the editor for being awesome (both in general and for this episode in particular).
This game reinforces my belief that nobody has actually read Akroma's Memorial all the way through.
I mean, I'm not sure that's even possible... So many words... I stopped at "flying," personally
It is keyword soup on a rock, I think the only reason I know it so well is my sister had one when we first started playing in future sight...thallids are actually kinda terrifying with a memorial on board when you're first learning to play and have an affinity for black decks
its fun to animate
I feel like Richard is the only person who would be able to get screwed over by a blood moon in a mono-coloured deck
Crim?
Maybe the only out of these 4, but Justin Parnell has also screwed himself over in the past for running very few basics in a mono black deck; except he lost to a From the Ashes, with all 5 of his basics already in play, instead of a Blood Moon.
I've just paused the video to write down for future generations that I love The Editor. 27:39 grabbed my heart :)
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Editor is the real MVP of Commander Clash
If anyone ever makes a Commander Clash Bingo game, remember to have a slot for "Crim or Seth doesn't go for the free attack with a Vigilance Haste Creature."
Editor's notes give me life. Instant thumbs up when I see a relevant one.
remember when tomer wanted from seth to attack him with knight of the white orchid so it dies and can be reanimated, but forgot it had flying. those 2 damage actually mattered and it was tomer's idea that the knight attacked him so technically he betrayed himself.
tomers salt is on another level
Tomer: Can we get Commander Legends?
Richard: We have Commander Legends at home.
^the Commander Legends at home
EDIT: Dangit Crim you stole my joke
I think you mean he cloned your joke
akroma's memorial hypothetically put in so much work. Assuming everyone remembered what it did lmfao
ah the age old question. is this gonna be a 3 hour video with 2 matches or a 3 hour video with 1 match that feels like nothing is happening
Yes
is it bad that i blame crim for both situations without watchimg the episode?
Or seth breaking the stack.
Someday I will feel empathy towards tomer for the hedron archive teasing, someday but not today
My legacy continues.
I respect that video
@@MTGGoldfishCommander I feel that someone should troll you and go for a Mechanized Production on Hedron Archive win XD
I like tomer, but he's so pouty and emotionally manipulative when he's losing.
Here lies Tomer
19xx - 2020
#1 anime betrayer and 'friend' to all
He will be missed
"But it's a budget deck!!"
59:40 RE: "Now he has the combo, both sengir can regenerate each other"
lol they can't. they each have pro black lolol
i feel like the gang has to stop trusting tomer when he plays budget green decks
Tomer winning: "Weeeeee!"
Tomer losing: "I mean you can just kill me. You guys took away all my card draw..."
I do like Tomer, he makes great content and I like his commentary. But when he's pouting because he is behind on board, it makes for a very bad product in my opinion.
Happy that Seth and Richard at least always stay positive during these videos, even if they are behind.
I feel like the bad product is the gang up of the three on one and creating a non-game for Tomer in this instance. It effectively became a three player game very early.
@@tysonpestner I've been watching a lot of their content lately and he absolutely gets targeted early more than anyone else. A lot of times the moves just seem to be spiteful or for the memes too, I would have a chip on my shoulders if I were in his shoes. They ALL know Richard is the true threat.
Seth: "how will I deal these last 3 points of damage? 🤔"
Staff of nin in hand... :b
Lmao didn't notice that one I guess he could've won a couple turns earlier unless Crim removed it
Tbh im willing to bet he's never read past "draw a card" 😅
A note for Tomer: Just because not a lot of money was spent on your deck does not stop your deck from having high power synergy that can impose a threat for higher budgeted deck, remember, your deck is green, the best color in the format, if seth's white deck was also budget restricted it would not stand a chance against yours. and in fact it did take all 3 players to cooperate to stop you from winning. and to top it all, your commander's ability to potentially destroy opponent lands easily adds to the fear factor.
TLDR: your deck's budget does not affect it's power level so don't use it as an excuse!
Tomers saltiness was out of hand this week
Fully agree, he does his little giggle when he is winning and pouts the whole time he isn't, it's too much
It was so annoying to watch honestly.
Grow up dude.
He does this every week I feel. He plays something busted, like Zendikar Resurgent, then when the board has a response, he pouts, then says "Why I'm not really playin anyway?"' Then when he gets it back, it just almost ends the game, or ends the game. I like Tomer, but this pouting and saltiness to get the rest of the table to pity him is getting really annoying.
He was complaining a lot about Crim’s counterspells but I think what really put him over the edge was losing his magistrate to MTGO
Baron Sengir is the progenitor of the idea that vampires play softball/baseball, as evidenced by the Twilight movies.
Anytime Timer builds to a budget it always seems to be super spikey rather than building to the power of the pod
I think it's a side effect of how he writes and conceives of budget lists, they need to punch above their weight so that the casual commander player can drop into a game at the LGS and not just get destroyed/swing the occasional win. but commander clash has all seasoned players at this point and they restrict their power level for fun interactions, so despite being well crafted(if not always piloted :p) they hinder themselves for theme/flavour while tomers budget lists are built opposite
Thanks for another fun game y'all. Gotta say I was bummed to find out Tomer wasn't playing the red Kamahl though. It's understandable but that didn't stop me from getting my hopes up prior to the deck techs. Seth on huge mono White angels makes up for it though.
"Green is a decent color in commander"
Two words. Richard. Farseek.
They also forgot first strike. Could have killed terrastadon by blocking with everything
When was that? The 1:10:00 attack was chumped to get linvala off the board, elephant was not an issue, was there another attack?
@@blueplayer6197 They only wanted Linvala off the board so Richard could use Dark Imposter activated ability to kill the Terrastadon. I guess if they wanted dark imposter to wipe crim's board the chump was needed. But Seth could have kept his whole board with the first strike.
Hey Seth fyi it's a host of angels as in a heavenly host. Oh by the way props for running Hedron Archive it sends a message.
Tomer is being very daring at 2:44, he’s going to die first to Akroma, calling it now.
My favorite EDH combo with Identity Thief is with Medomai the Ageless or Master of Cruelties cause it’s already attacking when the copying happens so you can abuse “can’t attack” restrictions
didn't expect to be seeing frame data on commander clash but go off editor 27:43
I don't know if anyone has pointed that already (probably though), but you can't kill more than one opponent with Angel of Destiny and Myriad, the tokens created by Myriad are exiled at the end of the combat step, and the angel's ability triggers only at the end step.
Anyway, it was a blast to watch, as always, thank you everyone for making those funny games!
This game was great!
Everyone did their things, lots of twists and turns. Somehow +2/+2 counters were relevent. Wild!
I don't know how but Richard seriously still pulled off an insane deck with grandma sengir.
I mean imagine if Crim and Seth didn't both have pro black half the game (and Seth the whole game)
I don't really like that there was a pro black commander vs a mono black deck but that didn't really play out anyway with that pro black artifact vs the mono black commander.
(I mean I know it wasn't anti Richard's commander meta gaming but.. eh, not loving how Richard was pretty much dead in the water)
Great deck Crim, clones are hilarious, kinda wanna play a deck like that myself
My playgroup plays a lot of blue and counterspells so anytime I'm on non-blue decks I pack them with some kind of counter-counterspells. In green, beyond Veil of Summer, I think Prowling Serpopard, Conquero's Flail and similar effects are really good and quite essential.
Crim did everything in his power to lose the game. It's incredible how much the akroma's memorial was subestimated, Seth won because of it.
Tomer the new jake XD
a three hour commander clash? sweet!
MonoGreen the color that it doesn't matter if it's bugget build or not. "but its bugget" should be followed by "but it's monogreen, so is it really?"
Honestly Editor is the real MVP of Commander Clash. Any chance we could get Editor in game for a special episode?
Tomer's mistake was playing not playing actual OG Kamahl.
Yeah. The lightning bolt Kamahl.
Seth missed about 239847298347892374892 damage on Richard from hasty, pro-black, vigilant creatures and also complains several times about Richard having way too much life. I am so confused.
We need to pressure Tomer in building a true OG Kamahl mono-red deck. What makes a card OG isn’t their color, it’s the name.
There is a cycle of 4 mana artifact creatures of the chimera type from visions that also put +2/+2 counters on each other. I tried to build a deck around them a long time ago, but they are not very good, as you can imagine.
So what does Akroma's Memorial do again?
Every time Tomer says "Budget Deck"
People should be worried
I'm not as sure as Crim that the new Sakashima is better. Ignoring the legendary rule is cool, but the fact he can only copy your own creatures is a big nerf.
Just looking at this game he used Sakashima a lot of times to copy opponents' creatures.
Does it bother anyone else that tomer constantly checks out of games super early and just starts whining. Like in this game he complains that he can do nothing until all the sudden he then proves he was I fact in the game despite still being picked on by crim.
He only got back into the game because Seth pitied him and gave him some stuff back with that angel. He was absolutely shut down by the others teaming up on him and removing everything he played.
So did tomer cheat on the theme cause he didn't play the orginal version of his commander Kamahl, Pit Fighter
oh man, it was so annoying watching Tomer complaining the whole game about how he is not winning and then betraying his own words.If you promise something, keep your word.
Jesus, the politics in this game took some turns 😂😂
Tomer bums me out 😖
A good theme idea!
"It has V I G I L A N C E!"
Sees run time
"Looks like another x1.5 speed week"
Could seth not have triple blocked the terrastadon as all his creatures have first strike
Its host of angels lol love the game peeps, thanks
it is "a choir" of angels
I thought it was a host of Angel's
Couldn't Tomer have genesis waved for even more than X22? If he animated lands with Kamahl and then tapped them for mana, his leyline would've mean they tapped for 3 each right?
I love Akroma just for that beautiful art.
You guys should do a week where you all play fair versions of commanders that are really scary but you don't share decklists. And you have to convince eachother why your deck isn't actually scary. Im talking commanders that are really hard not to have infinite combos like niv mizzet, Yiddish, any commander with eminence
32:00 Baron Sengir is playing Quidditch
I want to see Seth play Tymna so that his need for card draw will translate into combat.
This is why you never trust someone with the name Dr. Anime. They always turn out to be the villain.
I have a good janky tribal deck to submit to Richard. Whats a good way to?
Punts' Memorial
I like tomer, but he's so pouty and emotionally manipulative when he's losing.
This. Everytime.
Bruh he resolved like a spell by turn 8...I would be mad too Crim hard targeted him for 0 reason
Also go check the videos where crim is losing he is so much more pouty
@@aarong2606 ACKtually tomer resolved a turn 0 leyline, turn one elvish mystic, turn two ramp Naga shaman, turn three Naga Druid that allows him to play the top card if it’s a creature, turn four a Immaculate Magistate and wire wood symbiote, turn 5 attacked with wirewood, turn 6 held up magistrate, turn 7 zendikar resurgent, turn 8 kamahl. Bro if your gonna be biased at least don’t lie.
@@aarong2606 I agree it would be frustrating, I just admire Seth and Richard for always staying optimistic
FYI, it's commonly a choir or host of Angels (depending on who you ask). They are not birds, and so don't flock.
I could have sworn unfortunately (or fortunately) Baron Sengir was errata'd to put two +1/+1 counters onto himself
I don't know if richard cut viridian longbow or thronbite staff for that awful wand but it's really funny either way.
Seth should have played protection tribal honestly
Kolga doesn’t have reach but he can fight other creatures...
What client is this that you guys use to play!
They are playing on Magic: The Gathering Online. An official but not recent platform to play most formats online, though not free. There's ways to play commander for free once you have it though, www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/how-to-play-commander-on-magic-online
A group of angels is a choir
So white has a bunch of ways to share abilities across the whole team and she has a bunch to share.
Was not surprised in the slightest that crim was playing the blue deck smh never anything new with him
g, and I cannot stress this enough, g
Am I the only one hearing Baron Singer?
I'm sad because I think crime threw that game. With the domineering will, he could've swung for 23 lifelink at seth while he was at 27. I dont really know if it would've won crim the game but it definitely would've given him some breathing room going back up to a higher life total.
That wouldn't work. I Didn't know this until recently but if you take control of a creature during your main phase and it doesn't have haste then they can't attack. A creature loses summoning sickness once it's been on your battlefield after your upkeep. I guess if he did it during Seth's end step but that's just a weird card
@@hellmans_fury490 he didnt need haste to swing for that 23, all that damage was the angel of sanction copies/tokens and his copy of akroma with the lyra buff for +1/+1 lifelink. Seth would've had no flying blockers for those so he'd get damage and life. I'm not saying it would've won him the game but it would've given him more health to play with /stall for an anwser
"If your commander costs more than 6 mana..Hedron Archive. If your commander costs more than 7 mana..Dreamstone Hedron" -Tomer
Fairly certain he meant *less than 6 mana
A chorus of Angels
This week is OG commanders but Tomer goes with Kamahl v2.0 instead of Kamahl, Pit Fighter. Also, I don't think Tomer has a Spike-eseque bone in his body. As he replaced it with an extra whinning casual bone.
"Choir of Angels"
A funny Clash game 'Death to magic online' who can combo crash moto the fastest. Thumbnail can be moto vs 4 commanders you guys piloting.
VIGILANCE VIGILANCE VIGILANCE
Kamahl’s first version is Kamahl, Pit Fighter though.
Well Read his deckname at the beginning xD
He mentions that in the title text of his deck of his deck teck.
@@Vininn126 @NightShadowSystem I initially watched this as a podcast of sorts at work so I missed the deck names. I still maintain he shoulda done Pit Fighter as they said they were playing the first versions of each. Kamahl was a barbarian turned a druid so playing his bad, barbarian self woulda been far fairer especially with OG Akroma and Baron Sengir as opposition. Just my thoughts though.
Wow, that was a pretty scumbag move from tomer
So I just recently started watching you guys play and I love how it feels like you guys have so much fun playing shitty janky games. Haha.
tomer you need to bring the meanest deck ever next week
A group of angels is a host
it is a Host of angels.
So you guys have done commander clash where you all have to use a random card. What if you did a commander clash where you had to use random partners?
T = Yes 1:29:19
Wow Staff of Nin wins the game??
Man Crim totally threw that game. He could have won on the spot the turn he drew Domineering Will by just casting it, take Seth's 3 untapped creatures to get rid of his blocker, and swing for lethal...
You guys let crim take back his domineering will punt no problem but when tomer does it suddenly he has to die. hmmmmm
I think people are maybe going a bit overboard on Tomer saltiness, but I do agree it can be a little bit hard to be sympathetic when Tomer know his deck can turn around the way it did and still act so down. I think the reason people react so badly to it is generally someone is watching CC as downtime and escape for whatever is going on in their lives and so they invest emotionally only to be dragged down with someone having a bad day. It's maybe not fair, but it's something to consider?
On the whole though, great game guys and thanks for helping us through fairly trying times :)
Also I think Richard is being unfair about new Baron. Selective wraths and aristocrat shenanigans pile up in black to make new Baron an interesting take on Voltron and the second ability helps with the main downside of Voltron, how you survive to kill other players after you've killed your first. Certainly I'm looking forward to combining him with Tevesh Szat for a monoblack fun times for all deck
It’s not that complicated it’s just not enjoyable to listen to the host of the show talk about being checked out of the game and acting completely sullen for a huge chunk of the time. There’s no situation where that would have made the show a better watch.
@@lobo-xs6kd I honestly don't think you can look at streaming the same way as other forms of entertainment in the sense that sure people are getting paid to do what they love, but they're also putting in a lot more background work AND producing a lot more content that you would get in almost any form of media.
Sure Tomer said he threw the deck together in 20 min and didn't meet hos own restriction, but he's doing his own research to make accessible content for the viewers while doing a hundred other things in a way that no tv or radio presenter would be asked to.
He was probably already frustrated that what he produced wasn't up to what he feels is his normal standard, only for the work he did do to feel like it was just him spinning wheels.
People get salty in a normal game of commander, imagine how it feels when it's your livelihood during a recession.
Everyone's entitled to a bad day, it's just harder for streamers to avoid showing it. It's maybe worth pointing out salty behaviour because people don't always recognise when they are doing it and it can help someone snap out of a funk. Scolding someone over it is ultimately useless
@@ewanhiddleston6642 His lack of preparation isn't an excuse for his behavior. Prepping a deck for the show is part of his job, and he has repeatedly shown up wildly underprepared with some slapdash deck.
Kamahl pit fighter?
Vampires 100% play baseball. Source: Twilight
The new kamahl is better... but it's close
*D O C T O R - ANIME - T E*
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