Used the 103 for 2 years now and I agree it captures “S” noises more because anything over the 5khz is raised 5 db. I find myself always lowering the 5khz with a eq
@@garbygarb31 finneas uses it and loves it, he says it compliments his voice, Billie used it too but didnt like, the mic she really enjoys, her mic is the "Telefunken ELA M 251 E".
Whats the difference between the Black and grey one? I dont understand, are they similar? One is more expensive www.thomann.de/pt/neumann_tlm_103_studio_set_mt.htm www.thomann.de/pt/neumann_tlm_103_set_box_nickel.htm
That’s wat I got rn I got the at2020 Im an artist and I mainly record in studios because I rather focus on the recording process but I literally spent thousands and I want to save money and invest in a better studio however I like my vocals clean. Would you say that going from the at2020 and going to the Tlm 103 is a drastic difference and does it sound good already before the mix?
just so everyone knows with a microphone like this, yes loosing that crisp mid and low end from it is upsetting, but if you need that tone, you can record your normal take, and then record a quieter lower layer take, pitch it down a little using a good natural smooth pitcher. and blend the vocals together to really get that beautiful layered sound.
I have the MKH416 which I think is the most accurate sounding mic for voice, but not so sure for singing. I'm also about to receive my TLM103 so I'm excited about that. Dream mic has to be the U87
@UCmJYLX2j_DOKtGHG00tqdzQ cool. I had the SM7b which I love for it's design but I find the sound too dark and flat, but for fingers with high pitched voices or loud singers I can see it doing well.
Yeah for a shotgun mic it apparently breaks the standards and can be used for other things outside of V/O and Film. A really special innovation of sound engineering
@@UndergroundSoundProductions you will hate it I guarantee 😂 i own 103, u87 and mkh416 and i can tell you the sibilance is incredible with mkh416 thin paper distortion that is incredibly fatiguing - all you need is 103 as a bright modern sound and u87 for the classical warm midrange sound - since you are using an Apollo try the v76 unison pre with your tlm103 or the neve 1084/1073 but please steer away from mkh416 unless you record voice actors who knows the microphone and prefer it for their VO work
That was an excellent analysis! I'm in the process of buying my recording studio and the TLM 103 is the microphone I'm thinking about purchasing. Thanks for the info!
@@applecrazy1 depends what you need it for brother. The AKG C414 XLii is a very sensitive mic which is good for vocalists. On the other hand the TLM 103 is best for deeper, louder and harsher voices which is good for rapping. Also, the Shure 7MB is a very clear mic which is good for podcasts, interviews and voice overs but be aware that by using it for other uses like singing or rap it can seem a little quiet. ®
I have been rocking with the TLM 102 for a little while now. Into a Warm Audio Tone Beast TB12 into a Focusrite Solo. Learning how to mix and master has made my tracks SO much better. Still need help but getting there.
You’ll look back on your mixes a year from now and be amazed at how much better you’ll get. Keep working man and you’ll inevitably improve. It’s all about trial and error I’ve realized. Oh and keep things simple. The more you over complicate your mixes the more noticeable it’ll become!
Cool video. The reason why you say it compliments deeper voices is because it picks up less of the low and midlow frequencies than a TLM 49 for example. Therefore even in deeper vocals the TLM 103 captures more of the high end of your voice. I personally prefer the TLM 49 because it is more neutral and captures the deep frequencies perfectly as well. Question: What LED keyboard is that? I love the animation. I have a LED keyboard myself but it does not like that nice. Please let me know the name so I can get one like yours! :)
I'd say it's worth it for sure. The thing is due to COVID 19 many studios have shut down and are now moving towards remote work. But they expect the same microphones that they had in their studios. Casting directors, studios and voice actors know the TLM 103. They know the MKH 416. So its value imo is because of the fact that studios and audio engineers actually require the TLM 103. Studios don't care about some no-name mic. They only care about the TLM 103. And especially in an environment like this where you literally can't even find a TLM 103 on Amazon or Sweetwater anymore, you can be damn sure that the TLM 103 was worth buying in 2020. I literally know dozens of actors/actresses that want a brand new TLM 103 but can't get one right now. And it's the microphone that many voiceactors aspire to in their setup.
Right man I feel like the 103 is almost like the studio staple. That and the 87 for sure. Especially when it comes to voice over. However, I do love the 103 on rap/singing vocals as well. By the way, I love your videos man I like the shootouts/tests. I love nerding out over this stuff so seeing likewise content is always dopee!
@@UndergroundSoundProductions Oh yeah, definitely agree. I feel like so much could be done with that extra $2000 differential. TLM 103 + 2K is like a used Whisper room or a Senneiser MKH 416+Twin or a truckload of training (for voiceactors). Also I find your channel super interesting to watch :P
The vibe of the video is FIRE. The colors. Everything is FIRE. So calm. The instrumental too is perfect. One question. Obviously you Mix vocals to post with video but do you mix AND master to make a video like this ?
So for the audio I just use some compression and roll off sub frequencies below 60hz. I’ll sometimes use a noise gate if the fan on the light I use for my videos is too loud in the recording. I try to keep it pretty simple cause I want to get a mostly natural sound from my setup when I do the videos. And then I just layer in some background music and that’s it! The key is to just keep it simple man! I’ve done videos in the past where I have 10+ plugins when all I’m doing is technically a voice over lol
Ah the sibilances on the 103 is the main reason I chose the 102 over it. Very happy! More versatile too for guitars and higher voices etc. For ultra sibilant voices I have the 47jr which is like buttery smooth on sibilances. It's like a built in deesser or something lol
Yea man that’s why I wanna get the u87ai. I’ve heard the u87 is pretty much the tlm but better and with the sibilance corrected. Very interested in that microphone!
For the sss problem just modify the position now is taking much sound from the nose..try to grave forward a bit ✌🏽by the way, knowing how to use this mic is fire love it
Mic placement, preamp , converters there’s so many factors that could cause sibilance…TLM103 likes air, you can’t get too close to the capsule, it’s very sensitive, quiet, it picks up everything
I love my TLM 103.But I sold it and bought the u87ai because of the frequency response of the 103 vs u87ai. I needed a lot less time spent eq removing part of the boosted 103's signal.
That’s awesome man! It’s such a superior microphone to pretty much everything else on the market. You’ll definitely enjoy it. It’s a metal pop filter from stedman. I believe you can buy one on Amazon for $30
@@UndergroundSoundProductions thanks just notice it match the mic so well and thanks also i just did caulations realised i getting ea1 shock mount and tlm103 with postage for only 885usd :p
I don’t understand why Neumann hasn’t dealt with the crazy brightness of this mic after all these years. It’s literally everyone’s only complaint. It’s too sibilant and bright. They could just drop that voicing down to something realistic and be great.
Thanks man appreciate you as always! And honestly man I’d still go for the 103. In my opinion, it’s the superior out of the two and will still sound amazing regardless of your voice type. Just be aware of the sibilance issue and prepare to de-ess
Hey mate good stuff liked the video,what you think about townsend labs sphere l22 you get exact emulation of 34 mics and is it worth the hype cause if it is then isn’t it more wise to spend your money on this thing than a Neumann u87ai which is still more expensive Regards
I sing a lot in high notes, but have a deep voice - what do you think will suit me more? I just recorded with the u87, (not the AI - the vintage) and it sounds terrible... made my voice nasal/dull/puffy... so I'm looking for a mic that'll suit me. BTW, you mentioned wanting to have the U87AI - I saw another video on youtube of a guy explaining that the U87ai creates a nasal tone. I also listened to a demonstration, and heard it too... you might want to try it before you buy it...
From my experience I can not confirm this - to me the U87ai is the most open sounding Mic in my locker. One aspect is pairing it with the right preamp, though - from my experience U87ai is picky when it comes to preamp selection. Also, signals taken with the U87ai sometimes need more post processing to realy shine, but it takes EQ exceptionally well: due to the midrange detail provided, it allows to sculpture the sound in post a lot. The non-Ai models are all so old now that every single one tends to sound different - I'd give the Ai at least a try.
103 all day everyday. The only mic on my mind that could potentially phase out my 103 is the u87ai. I will get my hands on one eventually and we’ll see
Can you use the TLM103 in an untreated room? I just bought a Rode NT1 and it's picking up birds 3km away lol I'm recording in my living room. Hard floors, no curtains or carpet
Ahahahah yeah condenser mic tend to hear even a moth fart 💨. For untreated room Some people recommend dynamic mic cause they pickup way less ambiant noise . First thing you can try is reduce the distance at minimum between you and the mic ( that involv caring about proximity effect and plosives ) .
hello, could you please tell me the microphone stand you use in the video, what's the référence please? And does it make noise when you move it? Thanks
I want to know how this compares to the TLM 102...I had the TLM 102 but got rid of it for being to sibilant...I currently have the AT4047 but hard to find videos comparing the AT4047 and TLM 103...
Hi my friend . Can you help a liitle please. I bought 4months beforea tlm 103 and plug it in focustrite using this phantom . Its the worst sound i ever made before ..100 $ mics looks much much better !!! Should i get a appolo twin to handle this mic or the scarlet is enough and i fucked up to took this shit on 2022 and they change it; couse i remember this mic in the past worked good.tell me please if know bro
I had this for a long time, it was at some point collecting dust (not literally) and I sold it on an app for about $600. It sold fast. I went to USB mics for the convenience and thinking just good quality mics in VO will suffice until I saw a VO coach who said don't use USB mics, and get a Neumann. Ugh!! Now that I see the TLM 103 is still selling for over 1K, I regret selling it.
My experience is very different. I had a TLM103 in 2009 and did a whole album with it. Back in the days i can‘t remember it that it‘s beeb sibilant, but i read those statements all the time. I mean, i haven‘t rapped into a TLM for nearly 10 Years, but at the moment i got a U87ai going into a Neve 1073 SPX and into my Apollo Twin X . Sibilance is killing me! The U87ai is not as bright, as people would think, for me it sounds like it has a very, very present midrange, with a good pound of meat in the lower mids, harsh in the presence range but not open enough in the highs. It‘s a very good microphone, don‘t get me wrong, but at this price point, i wouldn‘t buy it again and i am not going to keep it for so long, i guess
Maybe try a different preamp before you sell it - I love the Ai on the Pacifica. Also, have you tried to angle the mic a little so it addresses your mouth from above or below? - It can help a lot with sibilance.
@@tom_k_d I tried an Avalon 737 lately. Sibilance was worse. I have to admit that sibilance is pretty much always an issue. i don´t blame the U87ai alone for it. it´s my issue but i guess the u87 just don´t fit my voice. i tried very much every angle to reduce it, but it just didn´t work.FYI, i i´ve send the avalon back in a heartbeat and kept the 1073. I´ll try a Brauner Phanthera next wekk to see if it would work better with my voice
@@DiaSimeAudioMax Thanks for the feedback - I once auditioned the Phanthera against U87ai and was not impressed - I would be interested in your judgement on it once you tested it. Both the 737 and the AMS 1073 are not 'rounding' the top end too much - if you have these options, maybe try BAE 1073 or Pacifica instead before abandoning the U87ai - I had simmilar problems when I started using the U87ai (on AD2022 - sounds great overall, but tends to be sibilant, too), but meanwhile I get very decent results out of it without sibilance issues on the Pacifica, yet have all the midrange detail the U87 is famous for.
@@tom_k_d I had the BAE a few years back and was quite happy with it. i only bought the neve cause i thought it was „the real deal“. I‘d love to try the pacifica but here in Germany it‘s as expensive, as the U87. I‘ve only read good things about it tho. But it‘s not easy to get here and there are not many shops here, that let you try before you buy :(
No. It's technique. Listen to Howard Stern and watch how he uses this mic!!! The key to using this mic for podcasts is: 1) a world class preamp 2) using CLOSE proximity 3) and using a lower head amp setting so as not to overdrive the diaphragm. Don't believe me. Go listen to Stern. AND watch.
The U87ai has a transformer. TLM (Transformer-less microphone) 103 has no transformer, they sound nothing alike. A transformer colors the low mids. You sound good on a 103 but, not everyone will. You would sound better on a U87ai. A U67 is what you really want.
Amazing video and such detailed description of the usage and qualities of the mic! I really needed this video. I have been wanting to buy a good quality mic for a while and I have been researching quite a lot. The Neumann TLM 103 was one of my considerations and your video explained a lot of things I needed to know before I made my decision. So thank you so much for this video! I have a request actually. Would you be keen on doing a video that compares The TLM 103 and the warm audio WA 87 R2 since warm audio mics are the remakes of the vintage Neumann U-series models?
I'm thinking about making the sacrifice to get one of these mics! I have the blue spark sl black and the apollo solo now. I have a deep voice and I would really like to see how my voice sounds on a professional mic. if you could check out one of the songs on my channel and tell me what mic would be better, that would be great
Thanks for the video! I am still trying to convince myself to buy the TLM 103. Putting so many hours into it xD What pop filter are you using? Kind regards, Kenzo
The 286s was a cool piece of hardware. I use to have one a few years back that I used with the shure sm7b and I liked how it sound. Definitely a must have for live-streaming/podcasting I’d say
U87ai is definitely two steps up sonically, and it takes EQ very well. TLM103 sometimes is a little easier to work with, though: It has a much higher max SPL, and it's output is not that hot. U87ai max SPL is 117dB (without the pad engaged), so you might need to work with distance to avoid distortion when recording loud singers. In addition the output of the U87ai is relatively hot (-5,8 dBu @ max SPL 117dB), which can cause converter overload when using vintage style preamps with a min gain of +20dB at standard studio level (0 dBFS equals +13 dBu) converters. Speaking vintage style mic preamps: Pairing the U87ai with a decent preamp is mandatory to take full benefit of this mic - I tried several and have now paired it with an A-Designs Pacifica most of the time. While it can sound harsh when addressed vertically and in proximity, tilting it a little so it points to your mouth from a little upwards or downwards will often fix this (you could try this with the TLM103, too).
@Paye ta Disquette Don't worry, TLM103 with a solid entry level interface is a good choice - the TLM103 does not necessarily need an expensive pre: it still has plenty of output (though it's not as 'hot' as the U87ai), and does not require the same amount of transient smoothing (typically done via external, transformer-equipped preamps) as the U87ai to sound smooth. TLM103/Motu M4 is a decent combination, and if you can't get at least solid results with this pairing, it's not because of the gear ;) ...
My guy if your going to spend 3k on a mic go with the lauten audio Eden mic! It kills the u87 hands down! I know a lot of pro engineers that choose it over the Sony c800 g no lie!
@@Tonsaay I would go with a lauten audio la320 and pair it with a warm audio 73 preamp or a focusrite isa one preamp! For mic and pre it will cost 1200!
@@UndergroundSoundProductions I’m a tlm 49 guy myself but that’s because my voice is more higher pitch like u said. I once went to a studio that had a tlm103 and I didn’t like it on my voice. I also owned a u87 ai at one point and got rid of it cause I thought it was over hyped, but I feel I mix a lot better now then I did 8 years ago so would give that mic another try. But the tlm49 for me bro
Yup the tlm 49 for high pitch/brighter vocalists and the 103/87 for deep voice people. I feel like it’s not as general as that but it’s a good starting place to picking which mic is best for you. I reallyyy wanna try that 87. I wanna see how my 103 stacks up to it. Next year I’ll find a way to cop
For sure that’s not a bad idea only problem is I’ve looked at rental prices and it’s stupid expensive just to try it out. If I lived in LA where most rental shops I’ve seen are located, I would probably do so and see how I like it. However, I’ve heard great things and the comparison between the 103 and it so I’m sure I’d like the 87 as well. Just haven’t bit the bullet and made the purchase. Soon though soon
Your better off getting an advanced audio cm800t or Stam audio Sa800 if your going for the Sony c800 G sound both a lot cheap but just as good if you ask me! And if your going to spend 3k on a mic go with the lauten audio eden mic one of the best mics in the world right now and it’s a tube mic!
Informative video... however, I have been in situations when tracking drums, vocals, and guitars with the U87, U67, U47, M269... etc... can you place this mic on drums. guitar, a singer so that we know the capabilities... thank you...
Noo of course not. I wanna get a u87ai at some point and try them out side by side and figure out which I like more. If the u87ai really does sound just like the tlm just with more detail and less sibilance I’m gonna be a very happy man!
@@UndergroundSoundProductions The u87 ai is the best microphone out there, yess you can get decent quality with tlm 103, but be carefull, if it hit's the ground the grill of that thing bends and when it does the microphone will sound way to harsh on the top and it will sound mudy on the bottom and it will destroy the quality of the microphone. I accidentally hit the ground with the microphone, so the microphone started to recording distorted of the sound. While i gonna fix the microphone, i gonna buy a rode nt1 just to test it out and see in a studio room if it is good for it.
Its all good, the best mic is the one w a great singer. Billie Eilish whole album was recorded w this and a Apollo twin... art is art, I"m sure her next album w have better quality but its about the music
You're addressing the mic wrong. You need need to speak at an angle to the front capsule. Then you can lose your pop filter and maybe even the shock mount.
@@UndergroundSoundProductions I mentioned in another comment the Lauten Eden Fc-386 is easily the best mic I ever used. They’re getting more popular now even thought they been around for 10 years I think. I recorded my entire first project on a Neumann U87 which was phenomenal but my studio in my area got this Lauten mic I mentioned earlier this year and the sound is noticeably better to me. It’s more clear and crispy and sounds like it records whatever sound is being driven into it very honestly. I know it comes down to preference but the Lauten 386 is absolutely fire man. They’re the price I believe, the Lauten is running $3k right now.
Oh yeah I remember you talking about that mic. I think the main reason why I have my eyes so set on the 87 besides of it’s reputation, is the claim that it sounds like the 103 but better. I love the 103 so much so if this is true the 87 and me would be a match made in heaven. I just really wish the 103 wasn’t as sibilant if that was the case this would be the perfect microphone. At least for me. I’ll check that Lauten out!
@@UndergroundSoundProductions yeah man I hear you. The U87 is really really great but this Lauten just had a sound that was a little more to my liking. Just look into it if you have time Brotha.
Used the 103 for 2 years now and I agree it captures “S” noises more because anything over the 5khz is raised 5 db. I find myself always lowering the 5khz with a eq
this is the same mic billie eilish uses to record her vocals, makes sense that it compliments lower voices well and why she uses it
There's no such thing as a female with a lower voice
GarbyGarb stop trolling playgrounds
@@garbygarb31 finneas uses it and loves it, he says it compliments his voice, Billie used it too but didnt like, the mic she really enjoys, her mic is the "Telefunken ELA M 251 E".
She used the 103 for her first album @@purpleheart69420
Just got the mic 🎙. Omg 😳... upgraded from an At2020 ... All I can say is energy , fullness .
Whats the difference between the Black and grey one? I dont understand, are they similar? One is more expensive
www.thomann.de/pt/neumann_tlm_103_studio_set_mt.htm
www.thomann.de/pt/neumann_tlm_103_set_box_nickel.htm
@@applecrazy1 they're the same. Probably just more expensive because of looks.
@@roxiroxiroxiroxi thx
That’s wat I got rn I got the at2020 Im an artist and I mainly record in studios because I rather focus on the recording process but I literally spent thousands and I want to save money and invest in a better studio however I like my vocals clean. Would you say that going from the at2020 and going to the Tlm 103 is a drastic difference and does it sound good already before the mix?
@@trustsinceway1182 yes it definitely is. There’s a massive difference between a 103 and a 2020
just so everyone knows with a microphone like this, yes loosing that crisp mid and low end from it is upsetting, but if you need that tone, you can record your normal take, and then record a quieter lower layer take, pitch it down a little using a good natural smooth pitcher. and blend the vocals together to really get that beautiful layered sound.
Thank you for the honest and detailed review of the TLM 103, I just bought it and hoping for the best. Take care.
After testing the Neumann TLM102, TLM103, U87AI and TLM49 for my voice I ended up using the Sennheiser MKH416. Just love it.
The 416 is really nice too. I’d be interested in trying that mic out someday
I have the MKH416 which I think is the most accurate sounding mic for voice, but not so sure for singing. I'm also about to receive my TLM103 so I'm excited about that. Dream mic has to be the U87
@UCmJYLX2j_DOKtGHG00tqdzQ cool. I had the SM7b which I love for it's design but I find the sound too dark and flat, but for fingers with high pitched voices or loud singers I can see it doing well.
Yeah for a shotgun mic it apparently breaks the standards and can be used for other things outside of V/O and Film. A really special innovation of sound engineering
@@UndergroundSoundProductions you will hate it I guarantee 😂 i own 103, u87 and mkh416 and i can tell you the sibilance is incredible with mkh416 thin paper distortion that is incredibly fatiguing - all you need is 103 as a bright modern sound and u87 for the classical warm midrange sound - since you are using an Apollo try the v76 unison pre with your tlm103 or the neve 1084/1073 but please steer away from mkh416 unless you record voice actors who knows the microphone and prefer it for their VO work
That was an excellent analysis! I'm in the process of buying my recording studio and the TLM 103 is the microphone I'm thinking about purchasing. Thanks for the info!
neumann tlm 103 vs akg c414 xlii thats my real question :(
@@applecrazy1 depends what you need it for brother. The AKG C414 XLii is a very sensitive mic which is good for vocalists. On the other hand the TLM 103 is best for deeper, louder and harsher voices which is good for rapping. Also, the Shure 7MB is a very clear mic which is good for podcasts, interviews and voice overs but be aware that by using it for other uses like singing or rap it can seem a little quiet. ®
@@esco.letsgo Its for rock vocals and rapping, my voice is kinda deep.
I have been rocking with the TLM 102 for a little while now. Into a Warm Audio Tone Beast TB12 into a Focusrite Solo. Learning how to mix and master has made my tracks SO much better. Still need help but getting there.
You’ll look back on your mixes a year from now and be amazed at how much better you’ll get. Keep working man and you’ll inevitably improve. It’s all about trial and error I’ve realized. Oh and keep things simple. The more you over complicate your mixes the more noticeable it’ll become!
@@UndergroundSoundProductions That is true... when I think too much it goes from good to horrible. Thanks
I gotta tlm 102 and the tone beast haven't hooked it up yet but I wanna run it into my apollo x4 any tipz?
I’m confused with Sony c100 or tlm 103 any suggestions bro ? Btw dope content
Really appreciate you doing this video after several months of experience with the mic.
Cool video. The reason why you say it compliments deeper voices is because it picks up less of the low and midlow frequencies than a TLM 49 for example. Therefore even in deeper vocals the TLM 103 captures more of the high end of your voice. I personally prefer the TLM 49 because it is more neutral and captures the deep frequencies perfectly as well.
Question: What LED keyboard is that? I love the animation. I have a LED keyboard myself but it does not like that nice. Please let me know the name so I can get one like yours! :)
i been watching you for a min bro you leave the bs aside and give honest opinions thank you for that!!!
I appreciate that man 🙌
I'd say it's worth it for sure. The thing is due to COVID 19 many studios have shut down and are now moving towards remote work. But they expect the same microphones that they had in their studios. Casting directors, studios and voice actors know the TLM 103. They know the MKH 416. So its value imo is because of the fact that studios and audio engineers actually require the TLM 103. Studios don't care about some no-name mic. They only care about the TLM 103. And especially in an environment like this where you literally can't even find a TLM 103 on Amazon or Sweetwater anymore, you can be damn sure that the TLM 103 was worth buying in 2020. I literally know dozens of actors/actresses that want a brand new TLM 103 but can't get one right now. And it's the microphone that many voiceactors aspire to in their setup.
Right man I feel like the 103 is almost like the studio staple. That and the 87 for sure. Especially when it comes to voice over. However, I do love the 103 on rap/singing vocals as well. By the way, I love your videos man I like the shootouts/tests. I love nerding out over this stuff so seeing likewise content is always dopee!
@@UndergroundSoundProductions Oh yeah, definitely agree. I feel like so much could be done with that extra $2000 differential. TLM 103 + 2K is like a used Whisper room or a Senneiser MKH 416+Twin or a truckload of training (for voiceactors). Also I find your channel super interesting to watch :P
Exactly man. You can stretch your dollar a little more with a 103 that’s for sure
The vibe of the video is FIRE. The colors. Everything is FIRE. So calm. The instrumental too is perfect. One question. Obviously you Mix vocals to post with video but do you mix AND master to make a video like this ?
So for the audio I just use some compression and roll off sub frequencies below 60hz. I’ll sometimes use a noise gate if the fan on the light I use for my videos is too loud in the recording. I try to keep it pretty simple cause I want to get a mostly natural sound from my setup when I do the videos. And then I just layer in some background music and that’s it! The key is to just keep it simple man! I’ve done videos in the past where I have 10+ plugins when all I’m doing is technically a voice over lol
@@UndergroundSoundProductions lol ok ok understood. Yea sounds good though man for real. Warm.
Thanks man I appreciate it! I do my best to make these videos as best as possible
Ah the sibilances on the 103 is the main reason I chose the 102 over it. Very happy! More versatile too for guitars and higher voices etc. For ultra sibilant voices I have the 47jr which is like buttery smooth on sibilances. It's like a built in deesser or something lol
Yea man that’s why I wanna get the u87ai. I’ve heard the u87 is pretty much the tlm but better and with the sibilance corrected. Very interested in that microphone!
@@UndergroundSoundProductions that u87ai is official. The tlm 49 is great also
No doubt man
For the sss problem just modify the position now is taking much sound from the nose..try to grave forward a bit ✌🏽by the way, knowing how to use this mic is fire love it
Knowing how to use a sibilence filter is better.
2022? Is the video description from the future? Now that's some impressive tech!
I have the TLM 102 and I love it...
Mic placement, preamp , converters there’s so many factors that could cause sibilance…TLM103 likes air, you can’t get too close to the capsule, it’s very sensitive, quiet, it picks up everything
I love my TLM 103.But I sold it and bought the u87ai because of the frequency response of the 103 vs u87ai. I needed a lot less time spent eq removing part of the boosted 103's signal.
Hey man this video looks great! What camera are you using?
I mixed mine with the DBX 286s. Brilliant sound
also finally order a tlm103 my self in black :p thanks for the videos on it , also what pop filiter is that u are using
That’s awesome man! It’s such a superior microphone to pretty much everything else on the market. You’ll definitely enjoy it. It’s a metal pop filter from stedman. I believe you can buy one on Amazon for $30
@@UndergroundSoundProductions thanks just notice it match the mic so well and thanks also i just did caulations realised i getting ea1 shock mount and tlm103 with postage for only 885usd :p
I don’t understand why Neumann hasn’t dealt with the crazy brightness of this mic after all these years. It’s literally everyone’s only complaint. It’s too sibilant and bright. They could just drop that voicing down to something realistic and be great.
Hey bro. Have you used this through Rode Caster Pro? I’d love to know more about the performance with the onboard deesser, sound gate and big bottom.
I haven’t
hello prodigy do u think black color is nice
or do u think is nickel is more better
Fire ass vid! Do you think i should cop the 102 or 103 i have a higher pitch voice but its not too high.
Thanks man appreciate you as always! And honestly man I’d still go for the 103. In my opinion, it’s the superior out of the two and will still sound amazing regardless of your voice type. Just be aware of the sibilance issue and prepare to de-ess
@@UndergroundSoundProductions facts alright imma take your word for it and save up🙏🏽💯appreciate it g
@@jdromeroherrera Do it… save for it bro. WELL WORTH IT!
Hey mate good stuff liked the video,what you think about townsend labs sphere l22 you get exact emulation of 34 mics and is it worth the hype cause if it is then isn’t it more wise to spend your money on this thing than a Neumann u87ai which is still more expensive
Regards
What camera did you use to shoot this bro?
Thanks for the great video. Are you using the UAD Solo? How well does the HD600 power from the headphone amp in it?
I sing a lot in high notes, but have a deep voice - what do you think will suit me more?
I just recorded with the u87, (not the AI - the vintage) and it sounds terrible... made my voice nasal/dull/puffy... so I'm looking for a mic that'll suit me.
BTW, you mentioned wanting to have the U87AI - I saw another video on youtube of a guy explaining that the U87ai creates a nasal tone. I also listened to a demonstration, and heard it too... you might want to try it before you buy it...
From my experience I can not confirm this - to me the U87ai is the most open sounding Mic in my locker. One aspect is pairing it with the right preamp, though - from my experience U87ai is picky when it comes to preamp selection. Also, signals taken with the U87ai sometimes need more post processing to realy shine, but it takes EQ exceptionally well: due to the midrange detail provided, it allows to sculpture the sound in post a lot. The non-Ai models are all so old now that every single one tends to sound different - I'd give the Ai at least a try.
have they stopped production of microphones lately or something? ive been trying to find an nt1 but they’re all sold out or marked up by resellers
With COVID-19 I wouldn’t be surprised. I’ve noticed that too. I can’t wait for this to all pass and things go back to the way they were man
I've bought stuff from Australia (to Europe) and there are considerable delays on Australian exports at the moment.
if u have to pick 1 between tlm 107 or tlm 103
which one u will pick ?
103 all day everyday. The only mic on my mind that could potentially phase out my 103 is the u87ai. I will get my hands on one eventually and we’ll see
Can you use the TLM103 in an untreated room?
I just bought a Rode NT1 and it's picking up birds 3km away lol
I'm recording in my living room.
Hard floors, no curtains or carpet
Hang some moving blankets around when recording and you should be good.
Ahahahah yeah condenser mic tend to hear even a moth fart 💨. For untreated room Some people recommend dynamic mic cause they pickup way less ambiant noise .
First thing you can try is reduce the distance at minimum between you and the mic ( that involv caring about proximity effect and plosives ) .
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Just got this mic. Odd question - What is your pop filter?
hello, could you please tell me the microphone stand you use in the video, what's the référence please? And does it make noise when you move it? Thanks
I want to know how this compares to the TLM 102...I had the TLM 102 but got rid of it for being to sibilant...I currently have the AT4047 but hard to find videos comparing the AT4047 and TLM 103...
Hi my friend . Can you help a liitle please. I bought 4months beforea tlm 103 and plug it in focustrite using this phantom . Its the worst sound i ever made before ..100 $ mics looks much much better !!! Should i get a appolo twin to handle this mic or the scarlet is enough and i fucked up to took this shit on 2022 and they change it; couse i remember this mic in the past worked good.tell me please if know bro
Maybe you were sold a fake TLM 103? There are videos on how to spot a fake.
I personally would just skip this one and go right to the U87, especially considering the 103 and 102 are only cardiod right?
Does your microphone gets muffled when at high gain on interface ?
Hey is that a boom arm which one is it I would like to get that one can you provide me with the link
why you adding music from background which we want to hear the quality of this mic? make no sense!!
You can barely hear the music and you can hear his voice clearly....and the plosives
I had this for a long time, it was at some point collecting dust (not literally) and I sold it on an app for about $600. It sold fast. I went to USB mics for the convenience and thinking just good quality mics in VO will suffice until I saw a VO coach who said don't use USB mics, and get a Neumann. Ugh!! Now that I see the TLM 103 is still selling for over 1K, I regret selling it.
You sold the tlm 103 and got a usb?🤦🏽♂️this is a mic u keep forever
I can’t even explain to you how much you have messed up….
My TLM 103 makes a strange whine sound when I phantom power on my interface. Is this normal?
My experience is very different. I had a TLM103 in 2009 and did a whole album with it. Back in the days i can‘t remember it that it‘s beeb sibilant, but i read those statements all the time. I mean, i haven‘t rapped into a TLM for nearly 10 Years, but at the moment i got a U87ai going into a Neve 1073 SPX and into my Apollo Twin X . Sibilance is killing me!
The U87ai is not as bright, as people would think, for me it sounds like it has a very, very present midrange, with a good pound of meat in the lower mids, harsh in the presence range but not open enough in the highs.
It‘s a very good microphone, don‘t get me wrong, but at this price point, i wouldn‘t buy it again and i am not going to keep it for so long, i guess
Maybe try a different preamp before you sell it - I love the Ai on the Pacifica. Also, have you tried to angle the mic a little so it addresses your mouth from above or below? - It can help a lot with sibilance.
@@tom_k_d I tried an Avalon 737 lately. Sibilance was worse. I have to admit that sibilance is pretty much always an issue. i don´t blame the U87ai alone for it. it´s my issue but i guess the u87 just don´t fit my voice. i tried very much every angle to reduce it, but it just didn´t work.FYI, i i´ve send the avalon back in a heartbeat and kept the 1073. I´ll try a Brauner Phanthera next wekk to see if it would work better with my voice
@@DiaSimeAudioMax Thanks for the feedback - I once auditioned the Phanthera against U87ai and was not impressed - I would be interested in your judgement on it once you tested it.
Both the 737 and the AMS 1073 are not 'rounding' the top end too much - if you have these options, maybe try BAE 1073 or Pacifica instead before abandoning the U87ai - I had simmilar problems when I started using the U87ai (on AD2022 - sounds great overall, but tends to be sibilant, too), but meanwhile I get very decent results out of it without sibilance issues on the Pacifica, yet have all the midrange detail the U87 is famous for.
@@tom_k_d I had the BAE a few years back and was quite happy with it. i only bought the neve cause i thought it was „the real deal“. I‘d love to try the pacifica but here in Germany it‘s as expensive, as the U87. I‘ve only read good things about it tho. But it‘s not easy to get here and there are not many shops here, that let you try before you buy :(
Look into the Blue Kiwi Mic
No. It's technique. Listen to Howard Stern and watch how he uses this mic!!! The key to using this mic for podcasts is: 1) a world class preamp 2) using CLOSE proximity 3) and using a lower head amp setting so as not to overdrive the diaphragm. Don't believe me. Go listen to Stern. AND watch.
If I ever get to upgrade my nt1a I’d get this 😻
I have a u87 ai. Was thinking about getting the 103 for my portable studio
The U87ai has a transformer. TLM (Transformer-less microphone) 103 has no transformer, they sound nothing alike. A transformer colors the low mids. You sound good on a 103 but, not everyone will. You would sound better on a U87ai. A U67 is what you really want.
Amazing video and such detailed description of the usage and qualities of the mic! I really needed this video. I have been wanting to buy a good quality mic for a while and I have been researching quite a lot. The Neumann TLM 103 was one of my considerations and your video explained a lot of things I needed to know before I made my decision. So thank you so much for this video! I have a request actually. Would you be keen on doing a video that compares The TLM 103 and the warm audio WA 87 R2 since warm audio mics are the remakes of the vintage Neumann U-series models?
I'm thinking about making the sacrifice to get one of these mics! I have the blue spark sl black and the apollo solo now. I have a deep voice and I would really like to see how my voice sounds on a professional mic. if you could check out one of the songs on my channel and tell me what mic would be better, that would be great
whats the name of your headphones ???
I use the senheiser hd600’s. Great open back mixing headphones
bro I am so confused between akg c414 xl2 and tlm 103 for guitar and vocals. help me out
if it was me who had to decide, I'd go tlm 103. the 103 is undeniable
@@UndergroundSoundProductions yah I got myself educated in the last 24 hours thanks to you and other youtubers , going for the TLM ✌️
Dope man enjoy it. Plenty of content using the tlm 103 on this channel 👌
@@UndergroundSoundProductions subbed already 🌸✌️
What boom arm do you use?
Thanks for the video! I am still trying to convince myself to buy the TLM 103. Putting so many hours into it xD
What pop filter are you using?
Kind regards,
Kenzo
It's the cheap metal one by SE Electronics I believe
Budget mic with complete silence behringer c1 with a dbx 286s compressor and slam your threshold and ratio
The 286s was a cool piece of hardware. I use to have one a few years back that I used with the shure sm7b and I liked how it sound. Definitely a must have for live-streaming/podcasting I’d say
@@UndergroundSoundProductions I am pairing the dbx 286a with the TLM 103. The built in de-esser was made for this mic.
U87ai is definitely two steps up sonically, and it takes EQ very well. TLM103 sometimes is a little easier to work with, though: It has a much higher max SPL, and it's output is not that hot. U87ai max SPL is 117dB (without the pad engaged), so you might need to work with distance to avoid distortion when recording loud singers. In addition the output of the U87ai is relatively hot (-5,8 dBu @ max SPL 117dB), which can cause converter overload when using vintage style preamps with a min gain of +20dB at standard studio level (0 dBFS equals +13 dBu) converters. Speaking vintage style mic preamps: Pairing the U87ai with a decent preamp is mandatory to take full benefit of this mic - I tried several and have now paired it with an A-Designs Pacifica most of the time. While it can sound harsh when addressed vertically and in proximity, tilting it a little so it points to your mouth from a little upwards or downwards will often fix this (you could try this with the TLM103, too).
@Paye ta Disquette Don't worry, TLM103 with a solid entry level interface is a good choice - the TLM103 does not necessarily need an expensive pre: it still has plenty of output (though it's not as 'hot' as the U87ai), and does not require the same amount of transient smoothing (typically done via external, transformer-equipped preamps) as the U87ai to sound smooth. TLM103/Motu M4 is a decent combination, and if you can't get at least solid results with this pairing, it's not because of the gear ;) ...
Hi would you recommend an upgrade from at4040 to tlm102 or tlm103 for vocals ? Which would run through isa one? Or is it not worth the price ?
I just recently went from the at4040 to the TLM 102. The TLM 102 is definitely a better mic. I am extremely happy with it.
@@TheVoodooVegetable thanks for answer homie!
Higher pitch voice, why don't you sing a few distance for air compression
My guy if your going to spend 3k on a mic go with the lauten audio Eden mic! It kills the u87 hands down! I know a lot of pro engineers that choose it over the Sony c800 g no lie!
Which model of Lauten would you recommend ?
@@Tonsaay what’s your budget?
@@mixedbygip8938 $1,000 to $1,300
@@Tonsaay I would go with a lauten audio la320 and pair it with a warm audio 73 preamp or a focusrite isa one preamp! For mic and pre it will cost 1200!
I’ve had this mic for years was looking to upgrade but now idk
Check out the cad e100s. I’m really looking into that mic and strongly strongly considering buying it regardless of owning the tlm 103
@@UndergroundSoundProductions will do
I agree 100%
Can’t go wrong with the 103 is what I’ve come to realize. Sounds good on just about anything and everything!
@@UndergroundSoundProductions I’m a tlm 49 guy myself but that’s because my voice is more higher pitch like u said. I once went to a studio that had a tlm103 and I didn’t like it on my voice. I also owned a u87 ai at one point and got rid of it cause I thought it was over hyped, but I feel I mix a lot better now then I did 8 years ago so would give that mic another try. But the tlm49 for me bro
Yup the tlm 49 for high pitch/brighter vocalists and the 103/87 for deep voice people. I feel like it’s not as general as that but it’s a good starting place to picking which mic is best for you. I reallyyy wanna try that 87. I wanna see how my 103 stacks up to it. Next year I’ll find a way to cop
@@UndergroundSoundProductions can always rent it to see if you like it first. I would have done that but I got mines on a come up so I didn’t have to
For sure that’s not a bad idea only problem is I’ve looked at rental prices and it’s stupid expensive just to try it out. If I lived in LA where most rental shops I’ve seen are located, I would probably do so and see how I like it. However, I’ve heard great things and the comparison between the 103 and it so I’m sure I’d like the 87 as well. Just haven’t bit the bullet and made the purchase. Soon though soon
I'm selling my TLM49!
golden age ga-800g do a review on that mic I can’t afford it but I want it so freaking bad!!!!!!!!
Your better off getting an advanced audio cm800t or Stam audio Sa800 if your going for the Sony c800 G sound both a lot cheap but just as good if you ask me! And if your going to spend 3k on a mic go with the lauten audio eden mic one of the best mics in the world right now and it’s a tube mic!
@JDS Bleedo facts my guy I’m about to save up for the eden mic!
Hope you'll get a U87ai...
I cannot take this video seriously. I'm 15 seconds in and I'm turning it off. Boughten is not a word
What about a tlm 49
Informative video... however, I have been in situations when tracking drums, vocals, and guitars with the U87, U67, U47, M269... etc... can you place this mic on drums. guitar, a singer so that we know the capabilities... thank you...
tlm 49 is like wayyyyuu more expensive
Tlm 49 ?
Gefell um930 !
u should check out gauge ecm 87 its so good
No wonder drake uses this mic
Omg don't tell me... You're getting rid of the Neumann 😬😳🥺😱
Noo of course not. I wanna get a u87ai at some point and try them out side by side and figure out which I like more. If the u87ai really does sound just like the tlm just with more detail and less sibilance I’m gonna be a very happy man!
@@MattDxstined the U87 ai is a FET microphone.
@@UndergroundSoundProductions The u87 ai is the best microphone out there, yess you can get decent quality with tlm 103, but be carefull, if it hit's the ground the grill of that thing bends and when it does the microphone will sound way to harsh on the top and it will sound mudy on the bottom and it will destroy the quality of the microphone.
I accidentally hit the ground with the microphone, so the microphone started to recording distorted of the sound.
While i gonna fix the microphone, i gonna buy a rode nt1 just to test it out and see in a studio room if it is good for it.
@@flavormusic523 the NT1 is terrible. I owned one and it is super siblant.
Its all good, the best mic is the one w a great singer. Billie Eilish whole album was recorded w this and a Apollo twin... art is art, I"m sure her next album w have better quality but its about the music
i can only afford an akg perception !))
The perception is still a great microphone though!
@@UndergroundSoundProductions In my opinion it sounds cleaner and smoother than an sm7b
I’m actually getting an sm7b here soon so that’ll be interested to try out
@@UndergroundSoundProductions I compared audio clips one from my own recording and one from a show
@@UndergroundSoundProductions I have one. It’s a great 🎤
What about a c414 akg?
good question
You're addressing the mic wrong. You need need to speak at an angle to the front capsule. Then you can lose your pop filter and maybe even the shock mount.
I’ve never used this mic but I haven’t found it sounding nice from youtube mic shootout videos I’ve seen
What mic do you like best?
@@UndergroundSoundProductions I mentioned in another comment the Lauten Eden Fc-386 is easily the best mic I ever used. They’re getting more popular now even thought they been around for 10 years I think. I recorded my entire first project on a Neumann U87 which was phenomenal but my studio in my area got this Lauten mic I mentioned earlier this year and the sound is noticeably better to me. It’s more clear and crispy and sounds like it records whatever sound is being driven into it very honestly. I know it comes down to preference but the Lauten 386 is absolutely fire man. They’re the price I believe, the Lauten is running $3k right now.
Oh yeah I remember you talking about that mic. I think the main reason why I have my eyes so set on the 87 besides of it’s reputation, is the claim that it sounds like the 103 but better. I love the 103 so much so if this is true the 87 and me would be a match made in heaven. I just really wish the 103 wasn’t as sibilant if that was the case this would be the perfect microphone. At least for me. I’ll check that Lauten out!
@@UndergroundSoundProductions yeah man I hear you. The U87 is really really great but this Lauten just had a sound that was a little more to my liking. Just look into it if you have time Brotha.
I want the u87 bad. I’m saving up for it right now
neumann tlm 103 vs akg c414 xlii thats my real question :(
I would go tlm 103. That’s me personally
@@UndergroundSoundProductions I had one last question. Can i run a tlm 103 with my steinberg ur 22c ?
Too nasal..
You said the same shit over and over and over lol. Wtf was this?