for a real test run a full or half marathon with both at your pace race, then compare your average heart run and also how you feel the day after the run!
I think the issue there will be the recovery lapse time of time between runs and state/ condition of when the runs are done. that would be a pretty large variable
Very interesting. I don’t effort any pair of shoes more then 35 dollars. My kilometres are below 4 minutes. I was ashamed of myself not being able to effort anything more then 35 dollars. This video is a huge emotional support for the people like me. Yes, no question about the specialized shoes…. They are outstanding, that’s why people buy these but nothing wrong with cheap shoes as well. End of the day, it is our legs that generate energy.
Well there's a huge difference between shoes that generate 0 energy, because they aren't responsive, and a shoe that actually helps you go forward. Believe me your legs will generate energy but they'll be more effective and they'll have more health in the end of the day 😉
Just the expensive ones from this video give more comfort to your legs. I feel my legs a lot less when running with the vaporfly 2 Nike shoes compared to cheaper shoes that I have.
Great video, very interesting! Made me feel very validated with my affordable shoes. Also a tip for people with small feet: buy from the kids section, the same sizes and designs in the kids’ section are a lot cheaper than in the women’s section! Also more colourful :)
Göran, just wanted to let you know that I absolutely LOVE your office. The design, the colors, the desk, the running poster on the right side and everything :)
Alpha fly next % was meant for long distance runs at high cadence......they are responsible for Eliud Kipchoge breaking the sub 2 hr marathon time. Of coarse not everyone’s going to beat his time but we can always try! The 40 dollar pair is not bad either I have 40 dollar shoes that I use to simply change up my runs and not worry too much about my more expensive shoes and wear them down. 40 dollar shoe is a work horse .......usually when there’s new tech innovation the top shoes such as the alpha flys pave the way for less expensive shoes and get some tech incorporated in the less expensive shoe. Great vid!
as an ex-videographer/film maker. it’s very nice to see creators like you putting in the effort into your videos. the visuals are amazing! never seen a shoe review so aesthetically pleasing. keep it up! 😁
great video, and surprising results! Results I can use because I don't really have the budget for a $300 running shoe (or just don't want to spend that much!) So now I have no excuse for not getting out there every day! thank you.
I have been running with different variants of Nike Free for over 10 years (including 11 marathons). For me, a nice compromise between real minimal or barefoot shoes and regular, over-padded ones.
Nice video, however I think a better comparison would be something like the cheaper Nike shoes vs the Nike Pegasus. The alphaflys and vaporflys aren’t really supposed to be used on your daily runs and are only supposed to be used for races time trails etc. They are not really a like for like use comparison. With the Pegasus you have a €120 daily trainer, which many will swear by for comfort, running feel etc. The question I think from a lot of people getting into running would be, “do I need to spend on a Pegasus or can I buy the cheaper alternative, and get good miles on them without risking injury to knees etc?”
You're right. This is strange to say the least, its a cool video but its not accurate or logic to say the least. I ran with a pair of well used vomero 10 (never before used in running) a few years ago 2 times a week for 1 month (5 to 11kms per day) and I ended up injured and in need of treatment and spent a lot of money until I got fully recovered. Why? Because I used some cheap used shoes that messed up my chin and knees. They weren't responsive and they weren't cushioned like they should be, so now that I'm feeling like running again I'm spending money on a Novablast 2 o cumulus 23 that I'll purchase in Black Friday for 60 or 70€.
Your dedication to run is amazing and this is the first time I've seen a full fledge run test. Great job with the video and thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Great vid! I also love the Logitech setup you have 😁 I don' run often so for me there is a difference between the 40$ shoes and the more expensive ones. I tried running with a similar model for quite some time, took some rest so I can get out of the perfect aerobic shape and when I returned I have used the Nike pegasus ( way cheaper than yours) and I got like 3bpm difference in advantage of the Pegasus but mb our bodies respond different since our background is diff as well. Both tests were done for the same distance on a track.
Just found this video now 7 months late 😅 but I have to say I absolutely love watching you. The way you’re always smiling puts a smile on my face too and it genuinely made my day better. I’m now a new subscriber and I hope to see more👍!!
Try running in a budget shoe for a year and see where your motivation goes from there. More than likely you will have an overuse injury due to your foot accumulating a lot of micro damages and losing interest very fast. Comfort is something that is taken for granted, being able to run five days a week because your shoe allows you do to that. I can run barefoot at a 3:00min pace, could I do it all week probably not. I could spend less money and not use wireless headphones, I can run without a Garmin watch. The running experience improves through a bit more careful consideration of what equipment you choose.
The price difference simply does not reflect the running quality of each pair. Both will do the job and won’t cause any injuries. Smart training and strength training will mean so much more for the longevity.
Great video as always Göran - thank you! My last pair of running shoes was a pair of Nikes that were like 80euros and they were performing a lot better than the previous Asics I had. Did 900km in them injury free. Like you say in the video, you don't need to spend loads on the top of the range to get good results.
"you dont need to buy a really expensive shoes, but if you have a budget and it really motivate you to do more running, then go for it". Well said. thx, nice vid
To be fair you're a great runner and at 3.15/km unless they are bricks you'll be fast in most running trainers. Finally a running review by a really good runner
Nice video! Crazy that the differences are so small. Althought it's known, that the alphafly really excells in long distance. I'd be interested in seeing a comparison half marathon or marathon :P
@@experiment54 Not all of them, and sponsored runners aren't the only ones that prefer them. But the data suggests the expensive high tech ones better for all levels and are helping people break records previously thought unbreakable. The high tech shaves milliseconds off your strides which adds up to PB's
I watch a lot of running videos, but this was the first of yours that I have seen. I love the quality of your production. 2 things that I’ve seen in the comments that I agree with. 1. Put the stats on screen. 2. The likes of the alpha fly are designed for longer runs, so a half marathon comparison would be great to see. I’m subscribing ... let’s see what your content looks like going forward...👍🙂
Always a good time watching you, Göran! They talk wonders about how these expensive shoes help with recovering. Actually, probably one of the best points I've heard about them. I also understand that's a big point for elite runners, not so much for recreational runners. But it may be worth testing as well. E.g.: one week training with ones and the others and comparing perceived efforts and heart rates at the end of the week? Have a good day, thanks!
Thank you very much Göran Winblad for the brilliant comparison, i love this! for me as a beginner and just running casually, this video really gave me pretty good insight about how much difference i 'theoretically' going to achieve, IF i ever wear these high-performance expensive competitive shoes.
Great video! Thanks for that. I tried many different brands with different prices. But i have to say.. the alphafly is the best shoe ive ever had. Before i had my alphafly i always run like 1 km in 5.40 to 5.45 on a half marathon. Now my time is between 5.10 to 5.15 for 1 km. So well... I only can speak for myself but. Its worth the money
@@SyedNizamudeen yeah I couldn't agree more. A shoe salesman tried to sell me on a pair if Nee Balance Fuel Cell Elites by talking about all the races they'd won. I'm pretty sure the athletes wearing the shoe won the races. This isn't like horse racing, runners don't jockey their shoes to the finish line. Paul Chelimo won a race after one of his shoes flew off, and Eliud Kipchoge won a race with his insoles sticking out the heel of his shoes. Let's simmer down this excitement over the Alphafly's a touch.
it really depends on your level, and how long you train in these shoes - it will make a big difference, goal - to feel great for 20 km or not to feel your own weight when you are running
I ordered a new pair of Nike Pegasus 38's yesterday. And a few days before that I bought a pair of Brooks Hyperion Tempo. I think that BROOKS makes the absolute most comfortable shoe that I've ever worn but I'm not often able to afford them as BROOKS tend to go well beyond $150 bucks but I found them from the Brooks website on sale - regular $200 on sale for $104 - I couldn't say no to that deal!!
I think they are meant to bring greatest benefits over long distances. Would be interesting how they compare in at least a half marathon. Nice comparison anyway!
I did a test...the next %2s were half a mile per hour faster over hoka bondi 6. Incredible! Please do another test to see how far you can run in 1 hour?
cool video. In Born to Run ch 25 there is a study quoted that states runners in cheap shoes get less injuries than those in more expensive shoes. ($40 vs $100 but in 90's money). It's an old study but very interesting conclusions.
Because vaporfly for instance isn’t made for stability or even toebox. It’s made for pure speed and same probably applied to the shoes they were using.
I've got to say that at least from a cosmetic standpoint, the cheaper Nike Renew Run is a nice-looking shoe. I'm not a runner but I'm on my feet all day in a kitchen with hard tiles on the floor so I always try to buy a more-than-just-decent pair of shoes. Living here in Canada, I've never spent more than $150 bucks on a pair of shoes. That said, I must say that the shoe that has impressed me the most from simply the perspective of comfort, is the Nike Pegasus. I've had many pairs over the years and they're really a great shoe that does come close to my limit as far as the price goes so often I've got to buy them either on sale or the pair that was released a few years back.
I am on a budget so I cannot afford to buy the smartest and newest shoes. On the other hand I find that the cheap ones wear out really fast, so I tend to go for last years model of the better models, or older if I know and like a particular model. This way you never own the 'top of the pops' but you do save a lot of money and get to run in really good shoes too.
Wow, thanks for this comparison. Even if it's not very scientific (as you mentioned too), it's a very insightful test. Thanks. Personally I think that as runners we should change shoes and train the majority in "slower" shoes or even sometimes barefoot to challenge our body. Thanks again ❤
Great review . If you do more of these maybe you could rate different aspects of both, from 1 to 10..Like grip, speed, how comfortable they are etc... Something like that. But anyway really useful review
Something nearly impossible to measure is how the shoe protects a runner from injury. That's probably more important than outright speed. Less injury = more training capacity = better results. I think the only way it could be measured is by having a mass poll of regular runners over time. Record shoe, injury type and frequency, training volume and intensity. Got to be a Phd paper in this.
Hi Goran. Where are you. Every house in the neighborhood architecture is so elegant with minimilistic construction. I love the interior design equally of your house equally. Bless you
This is a great video! You didn’t bash the $40 dollar shoes even though they did not feel as good as the expensive ones. This is for sure a useful video for people who run all the time and people who run every now and then👌🏻
Hey Göran, thank you for the video. As I understand the advantage of more expensive shoes opens when you run long. Like marathons. If I calculated everything right, these 0.2sec per every 80m will be 2.5sec per 1km. And for a full marathon, it's going to be 2.5x42=105sec. Or 1min 45sec. So, it makes sense when you're on top of your shape and fight for every minute. And you're right. For an amateur (like me and 99% of the people here) having $300 shoes doesn't make sense at all. Thank you for sharing. :)
Your calculation in terms of actual math is correct but you can't apply it here. Running math is complete different and varies from week to week, course to course. You also are neglecting to factor in distance, route(inclines etc) plus many more things. I have a pair of Vaporflys and while they were expensive the cost then becomes more than monetary value depending on your activity. Also say you buy these at 40 then you hate them and they are wrong for your foot, you are then limited to say trainers 60 and above - you've then spend £100.00, I paid 140.00 for my vapourfly new.
As a distance runner i truly believe that price is equal to quality. if you pay less money, you get a lesser quality shoe. if you pay more money, you get a higher quality shoe (in perspective of racing). so i’d say don’t cheap out, but don’t spend the top dollar if you aren’t gonna be racing any time soon.
Next time you do a comparison, please test the cheap shoes one day and the "super" ones the next day. While you have run in both at the same remarkable pace, you should consider that you were surely affected by the previous 6x1K (I'm talking about how much you've fatigued your legs muscles, nothing to do with the heart rate). I tested a lot of shoes at the running track, doing 5x1K and the difference between "normal shoes" and carbon plated with PEBAX foam is noticeable. i.e. the Saucony Ride 15 are 8 seconds slower than the Nike Vaporfly and 7 seconds slower than the Saucony Pro 2 on a 5K. Talking about the current shoes are now on the market, the Pro 3 are 17 seconds faster than the Pro 2, which means that the Pro 3 are 25 seconds faster than the Ride 15 on a 5K. This means, running 5 seconds per km faster, which is a big improvement in terms of performances. My 2 cents.
This is very interesting, unique and bold comparison. And very nice way to conclude. Keep up the great work. Looking forward for a lot more videos from you.
I'm not even a runner, but I went on a buying spree with Nike in the latter half of 2021, when the Renew Run, was out. I thought they were SO SQUISHY, just for walking around, and the occasional exercise, I ended up buying 6 pair of them! Glad I did, because they're all gone, now, except for pre-worn, on eBay. It's a great shoe. 👍
One thing a short test can't quantify is how much the more expensive (better cushioned) shoe may prevent injuries to your calves, knees, shin splints, etc. That injury prevention and ability to train injury-free for the long-haul may be well worth the extra $250 for someone who would otherwise have months of downtime or very expensive surgury and/or physical therapy.
I chose the nike turbo 2s over the alphas because 1 they are cheaper I paid £160 at the time, and 2 are more durable so last a lot longer for day to day training.
Great video Göran, I guess you might see more of an energy deviation between your two candidate shoes over longer distances e.g., half or marathon or longer - the Alphafly's do look like fun!
Hi the message of the video is right you don't need 300 pair of shoes etc... however the comparison should done be over multiple days and traininga sections... and probably be addressing more the feeling. my experience when I went from a a NV 40euro to a saucony End. Sp 2 and the feeling and comfort was on another level... not the speed... (I am recreational runner)... I am sure my knees were also much happier. So I will say, do a follow-up of this video after some weeks of compering the shoes...It will be great
Pro golfer did a test w inexpensive vs very expensive clubs. Golfer concluded that the money you save and take golf lessons would be more efficient to lower your score. The equipment needs to be sufficient, but it's the proper training that makes improvement.
Great video as always. For us normal «Sunday joggers» I think you just proved that equipment doesn’t matter. However, I think you make a great point when you say that if an expensive shoe motivates you more, go for it. In the end, motivation is what matters most for progression.
Thanks! Yeah that is so true if something can motivate you to train more I think it's a good investment in your self and in your health. But yeah I think some people believe they need expensive gear even to start running and that is really not the case 😊
Good video,! The main difference I've seen with expensive shoes (as someone with an old knee injury) is they tend to be more cushioned and absorb more of the impact for me.
It's kinda sad how youtube doesn't show you on my recommended page :( I rarely get notifications too. Do you have Instagram so I can see when you upload?
Ok that's strange I'm glad you found this video anyway, yeah I have Instagram same name there goranwinblad I always update my story there when I post a new video here on YT.
I don't run much, lately my foot's been hurting a bit I don't know why, but man those pricey shoes look nice. I've never gotten running shoes, just casual sports ones
This dude is so happy it somehow makes me happy 😂
Thanks bro
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for a real test run a full or half marathon with both at your pace race, then compare your average heart run and also how you feel the day after the run!
Thanks for your feedback!
How many hours u run...?
I think the issue there will be the recovery lapse time of time between runs and state/ condition of when the runs are done. that would be a pretty large variable
Very interesting. I don’t effort any pair of shoes more then 35 dollars. My kilometres are below 4 minutes. I was ashamed of myself not being able to effort anything more then 35 dollars. This video is a huge emotional support for the people like me. Yes, no question about the specialized shoes…. They are outstanding, that’s why people buy these but nothing wrong with cheap shoes as well. End of the day, it is our legs that generate energy.
May I ask what shoes did u buy?
Well there's a huge difference between shoes that generate 0 energy, because they aren't responsive, and a shoe that actually helps you go forward. Believe me your legs will generate energy but they'll be more effective and they'll have more health in the end of the day 😉
You will generate double energy with alpha fly next percent zoomx eluid kipchuge shoes… they let u try it 30 days risk free
As long as the shoes don't cause you pain or discomfort you are good. There is nothing wrong with cheap shoes.
Just the expensive ones from this video give more comfort to your legs. I feel my legs a lot less when running with the vaporfly 2 Nike shoes compared to cheaper shoes that I have.
Great video, very interesting! Made me feel very validated with my affordable shoes. Also a tip for people with small feet: buy from the kids section, the same sizes and designs in the kids’ section are a lot cheaper than in the women’s section! Also more colourful :)
Thanks Liisa, I'm glad to hear you liked it!
Wow, a great hack (..for women 🥲)
Göran, just wanted to let you know that I absolutely LOVE your office. The design, the colors, the desk, the running poster on the right side and everything :)
Thanks glad to hear you like it I spent way to much time renovating it 😅
The most sensible trainer comparison video I’ve seen in a long time - great work! 😊
Thanks 😊
Alpha fly next % was meant for long distance runs at high cadence......they are responsible for Eliud Kipchoge breaking the sub 2 hr marathon time. Of coarse not everyone’s going to beat his time but we can always try! The 40 dollar pair is not bad either I have 40 dollar shoes that I use to simply change up my runs and not worry too much about my more expensive shoes and wear them down. 40 dollar shoe is a work horse .......usually when there’s new tech innovation the top shoes such as the alpha flys pave the way for less expensive shoes and get some tech incorporated in the less expensive shoe.
Great vid!
Ho Göran, next time, put the times on your screen, so we can see how they held up. Visuals are very effective!
Hi ok thanks for your feedback 😊
as an ex-videographer/film maker. it’s very nice to see creators like you putting in the effort into your videos. the visuals are amazing! never seen a shoe review so aesthetically pleasing. keep it up! 😁
Thanks that makes me very happy to hear, more videos coming! 😊
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great video, and surprising results! Results I can use because I don't really have the budget for a $300 running shoe (or just don't want to spend that much!) So now I have no excuse for not getting out there every day! thank you.
Thanks! Ok good you found it helpful, yeah as I said in the video, you do not need an expensive pair of running shoes to enjoy running 😊
Very good comparison!
You really don't always need a high-end professional shoe for good running
Thanks! No you for sure do not! 😊
I love my adidas terrex speed ld 260.. yesterday run the "hermannslauf" 31k.
Super cofty and lightweight trail shoe
Ok cool they sound good I haven't tried them.
Just came from my long run, and when i layed down, opened my laptop abd saw your video, i was like hell yeah. Nice video, thank you for good content
Cool to hear always nice to chill a bit after a good long run! Thanks glad you like it 😊
me: Im not a fast runner
Also me: runs 6x 3 minute km
I have been running with different variants of Nike Free for over 10 years (including 11 marathons). For me, a nice compromise between real minimal or barefoot shoes and regular, over-padded ones.
Nice video, however I think a better comparison would be something like the cheaper Nike shoes vs the Nike Pegasus. The alphaflys and vaporflys aren’t really supposed to be used on your daily runs and are only supposed to be used for races time trails etc. They are not really a like for like use comparison. With the Pegasus you have a €120 daily trainer, which many will swear by for comfort, running feel etc. The question I think from a lot of people getting into running would be, “do I need to spend on a Pegasus or can I buy the cheaper alternative, and get good miles on them without risking injury to knees etc?”
Thanks! Yeah you are right just thought it would be interesting to compare the most expensive ones to the cheapest ones but good suggestion for sure!
You're right. This is strange to say the least, its a cool video but its not accurate or logic to say the least.
I ran with a pair of well used vomero 10 (never before used in running) a few years ago 2 times a week for 1 month (5 to 11kms per day) and I ended up injured and in need of treatment and spent a lot of money until I got fully recovered. Why? Because I used some cheap used shoes that messed up my chin and knees.
They weren't responsive and they weren't cushioned like they should be, so now that I'm feeling like running again I'm spending money on a Novablast 2 o cumulus 23 that I'll purchase in Black Friday for 60 or 70€.
Your dedication to run is amazing and this is the first time I've seen a full fledge run test. Great job with the video and thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Great vid! I also love the Logitech setup you have 😁 I don' run often so for me there is a difference between the 40$ shoes and the more expensive ones. I tried running with a similar model for quite some time, took some rest so I can get out of the perfect aerobic shape and when I returned I have used the Nike pegasus ( way cheaper than yours) and I got like 3bpm difference in advantage of the Pegasus but mb our bodies respond different since our background is diff as well. Both tests were done for the same distance on a track.
Just found this video now 7 months late 😅 but I have to say I absolutely love watching you. The way you’re always smiling puts a smile on my face too and it genuinely made my day better. I’m now a new subscriber and I hope to see more👍!!
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Try running in a budget shoe for a year and see where your motivation goes from there. More than likely you will have an overuse injury due to your foot accumulating a lot of micro damages and losing interest very fast.
Comfort is something that is taken for granted, being able to run five days a week because your shoe allows you do to that. I can run barefoot at a 3:00min pace, could I do it all week probably not.
I could spend less money and not use wireless headphones, I can run without a Garmin watch. The running experience improves through a bit more careful consideration of what equipment you choose.
The price difference simply does not reflect the running quality of each pair. Both will do the job and won’t cause any injuries. Smart training and strength training will mean so much more for the longevity.
Great video as always
Göran - thank you! My last pair of running shoes was a pair of Nikes that were like 80euros and they were performing a lot better than the previous Asics I had. Did 900km in them injury free. Like you say in the video, you don't need to spend loads on the top of the range to get good results.
Thanks Rudi! Ok cool to hear, yep that is so true! 😊
"you dont need to buy a really expensive shoes, but if you have a budget and it really motivate you to do more running, then go for it". Well said. thx, nice vid
To be fair you're a great runner and at 3.15/km unless they are bricks you'll be fast in most running trainers. Finally a running review by a really good runner
Thanks Jonathan 😊
@@goranwinblad what are your 5k/10k/HM and M times
Nice video! Crazy that the differences are so small. Althought it's known, that the alphafly really excells in long distance. I'd be interested in seeing a comparison half marathon or marathon :P
Thanks! Yeah it for sure seems like the difference would be bigger in longer distances, thanks for your suggestion!
The difference are not small…it’s just the test not being able to properly show what makes the more expensive one being pro athletes’ top pick.
@@terpreterin9777 pro athletes are sponsored they don’t pay for them
@@experiment54 Not all of them, and sponsored runners aren't the only ones that prefer them. But the data suggests the expensive high tech ones better for all levels and are helping people break records previously thought unbreakable.
The high tech shaves milliseconds off your strides which adds up to PB's
@@over1498 if athletes are payin for shoes they ain’t pro
I watch a lot of running videos, but this was the first of yours that I have seen. I love the quality of your production. 2 things that I’ve seen in the comments that I agree with. 1. Put the stats on screen. 2. The likes of the alpha fly are designed for longer runs, so a half marathon comparison would be great to see. I’m subscribing ... let’s see what your content looks like going forward...👍🙂
Thanks and thanks for the good feedback, new video coming out today 😀
Always a good time watching you, Göran! They talk wonders about how these expensive shoes help with recovering. Actually, probably one of the best points I've heard about them. I also understand that's a big point for elite runners, not so much for recreational runners. But it may be worth testing as well. E.g.: one week training with ones and the others and comparing perceived efforts and heart rates at the end of the week? Have a good day, thanks!
Thanks Roberto! Yeah that is probably true. Yeah that is a good suggestion would be interesting, maybe in the future! Have a good day you as well 😊
Thank you very much Göran Winblad for the brilliant comparison, i love this! for me as a beginner and just running casually, this video really gave me pretty good insight about how much difference i 'theoretically' going to achieve, IF i ever wear these high-performance expensive competitive shoes.
Thanks for your nice comment, I'm glad to hear you liked the video 😊
I would expect $300 shoes to easily outperform $40 shoes. I'd like to see a test comparing something like $65 shoes vs. $120 shoes.
I would love to see another review on both shoes3-6 months running in them to see which one breaks down faster.
I agree. My cheaper ones felt fine but ended up stuffing up my Achilles. Back to expensive shoes and all good
Great video! Thanks for that. I tried many different brands with different prices. But i have to say.. the alphafly is the best shoe ive ever had. Before i had my alphafly i always run like 1 km in 5.40 to 5.45 on a half marathon. Now my time is between 5.10 to 5.15 for 1 km. So well... I only can speak for myself but. Its worth the money
Thanks! Ok interesting to hear your experience!
I think you got better through training. Even if you switch shoes and assuming you are in the same form, your pace shouldn't be far off.
@@SyedNizamudeen yeah I couldn't agree more. A shoe salesman tried to sell me on a pair if Nee Balance Fuel Cell Elites by talking about all the races they'd won. I'm pretty sure the athletes wearing the shoe won the races. This isn't like horse racing, runners don't jockey their shoes to the finish line. Paul Chelimo won a race after one of his shoes flew off, and Eliud Kipchoge won a race with his insoles sticking out the heel of his shoes. Let's simmer down this excitement over the Alphafly's a touch.
it really depends on your level, and how long you train in these shoes - it will make a big difference, goal - to feel great for 20 km or not to feel your own weight when you are running
I ordered a new pair of Nike Pegasus 38's yesterday. And a few days before that I bought a pair of Brooks Hyperion Tempo. I think that BROOKS makes the absolute most comfortable shoe that I've ever worn but I'm not often able to afford them as BROOKS tend to go well beyond $150 bucks but I found them from the Brooks website on sale - regular $200 on sale for $104 - I couldn't say no to that deal!!
I think they are meant to bring greatest benefits over long distances. Would be interesting how they compare in at least a half marathon. Nice comparison anyway!
Yeah you are right thanks for the feedback and suggestion! :)
I'm glad they were similar because there is no way I can afford to spend 300 bucks on a pair of running shoes 🤣
You can for sure enjoy running just as much without spending a lot of money that one of the great things with running 😁
You also have to get a pair or shoes that makes you excited to go out for a run IMO
I did a test...the next %2s were half a mile per hour faster over hoka bondi 6. Incredible! Please do another test to see how far you can run in 1 hour?
@@Louiejacob2 shoes don't get me excited to run what kind of crap is that. Just do the work and run
@@stayontrack I guess that’s subjective 🤷♂️
cool video. In Born to Run ch 25 there is a study quoted that states runners in cheap shoes get less injuries than those in more expensive shoes. ($40 vs $100 but in 90's money). It's an old study but very interesting conclusions.
Because vaporfly for instance isn’t made for stability or even toebox. It’s made for pure speed and same probably applied to the shoes they were using.
I've got to say that at least from a cosmetic standpoint, the cheaper Nike Renew Run is a nice-looking shoe. I'm not a runner but I'm on my feet all day in a kitchen with hard tiles on the floor so I always try to buy a more-than-just-decent pair of shoes. Living here in Canada, I've never spent more than $150 bucks on a pair of shoes. That said, I must say that the shoe that has impressed me the most from simply the perspective of comfort, is the Nike Pegasus. I've had many pairs over the years and they're really a great shoe that does come close to my limit as far as the price goes so often I've got to buy them either on sale or the pair that was released a few years back.
I can tell you're in shape. You're smiling while running that much
I admire your English. It's really good!
Thanks 😊
I am on a budget so I cannot afford to buy the smartest and newest shoes. On the other hand I find that the cheap ones wear out really fast, so I tend to go for last years model of the better models, or older if I know and like a particular model. This way you never own the 'top of the pops' but you do save a lot of money and get to run in really good shoes too.
Wow, thanks for this comparison. Even if it's not very scientific (as you mentioned too), it's a very insightful test. Thanks. Personally I think that as runners we should change shoes and train the majority in "slower" shoes or even sometimes barefoot to challenge our body. Thanks again ❤
love this guy's attitude, really makes the video enjoyable.
Thanks 😊
Thank you! Good comparison and definitely won't be breaking the bank to buy expensive running shoes
Great review . If you do more of these maybe you could rate different aspects of both, from 1 to 10..Like grip, speed, how comfortable they are etc... Something like that. But anyway really useful review
Thanks ok good suggestions!
Bro try 910 Haze Vision only $27.
They were made with the every-day runner in mind. That has to be perfect for you as you're one of very few people who actually run every day!
Great effort. I rarely see youtubers who smile in 90% part on his video 😁
Something nearly impossible to measure is how the shoe protects a runner from injury. That's probably more important than outright speed. Less injury = more training capacity = better results.
I think the only way it could be measured is by having a mass poll of regular runners over time. Record shoe, injury type and frequency, training volume and intensity. Got to be a Phd paper in this.
Excellent point. Worth searching for a paper on this on a lazy afternoon.
Hi Goran. Where are you. Every house in the neighborhood architecture is so elegant with minimilistic construction. I love the interior design equally of your house equally. Bless you
I enjoyed this video and I appreciate the effort put into this video, keep it up!
Thanks! Glad you liked it 😊
Nice job and beautiful backround/home also.
Thanks Paul 😊
This is a great video! You didn’t bash the $40 dollar shoes even though they did not feel as good as the expensive ones. This is for sure a useful video for people who run all the time and people who run every now and then👌🏻
Thanks I'm glad to hear you liked it 😊
Tack Göran för en supertrevlig, nyttig och intressant video :) herrgud vad ditt leende smittar av sig!!
Tack Magnus 😊
Hey Göran, thank you for the video.
As I understand the advantage of more expensive shoes opens when you run long. Like marathons.
If I calculated everything right, these 0.2sec per every 80m will be 2.5sec per 1km.
And for a full marathon, it's going to be 2.5x42=105sec. Or 1min 45sec.
So, it makes sense when you're on top of your shape and fight for every minute.
And you're right. For an amateur (like me and 99% of the people here) having $300 shoes doesn't make sense at all.
Thank you for sharing. :)
Hey! I'm glad you liked it 😊 Yeah that's a good analysis!
Your calculation in terms of actual math is correct but you can't apply it here. Running math is complete different and varies from week to week, course to course. You also are neglecting to factor in distance, route(inclines etc) plus many more things. I have a pair of Vaporflys and while they were expensive the cost then becomes more than monetary value depending on your activity. Also say you buy these at 40 then you hate them and they are wrong for your foot, you are then limited to say trainers 60 and above - you've then spend £100.00, I paid 140.00 for my vapourfly new.
As a distance runner i truly believe that price is equal to quality. if you pay less money, you get a lesser quality shoe. if you pay more money, you get a higher quality shoe (in perspective of racing). so i’d say don’t cheap out, but don’t spend the top dollar if you aren’t gonna be racing any time soon.
Oozes good vibes and excellent quality ❤️🌿
Thanks 😊
Next time you do a comparison, please test the cheap shoes one day and the "super" ones the next day. While you have run in both at the same remarkable pace, you should consider that you were surely affected by the previous 6x1K (I'm talking about how much you've fatigued your legs muscles, nothing to do with the heart rate). I tested a lot of shoes at the running track, doing 5x1K and the difference between "normal shoes" and carbon plated with PEBAX foam is noticeable. i.e. the Saucony Ride 15 are 8 seconds slower than the Nike Vaporfly and 7 seconds slower than the Saucony Pro 2 on a 5K. Talking about the current shoes are now on the market, the Pro 3 are 17 seconds faster than the Pro 2, which means that the Pro 3 are 25 seconds faster than the Ride 15 on a 5K. This means, running 5 seconds per km faster, which is a big improvement in terms of performances. My 2 cents.
I liked the comparison. But the way the camera catches your arms and hands at the end looks very funny. Looks like a T-Rex haha xD
I think they should be tested for long runs, considering alpha flies developed at marathon distance as i know also with mrathon runners feedbacks.
i like how he's always happy
Great video. In my opinion, 0.2 seconds is a significant difference when only talking about spinting. Very interesting
What an excellent video. It would be fascinating to see some price points in between as well.
Thanks, yeah will maybe do more comparisons in the future!
Mind blowing fact, it shows how they advertise stuff, renew run is not bad I would definitely pick it, Tusen takk
With shoes they bright it would be hard not to notice them in your peripheral vision. Love seeing bits of Norway, thanks.
Wow such a nice smile you got... I definitely subscribed you coz of ur positivity
This is the content I come to youtube for
Glad you found what your looking for 😀
I really dig your videos, Gøran. You are really a true enthusist!
I meant: «Enthusiast»
This is very interesting, unique and bold comparison. And very nice way to conclude. Keep up the great work. Looking forward for a lot more videos from you.
Thanks, I'm glad to hear you liked it. More videos coming!
I'm not even a runner, but I went on a buying spree with Nike in the latter half of 2021, when the Renew Run, was out. I thought they were SO SQUISHY, just for walking around, and the occasional exercise, I ended up buying 6 pair of them! Glad I did, because they're all gone, now, except for pre-worn, on eBay. It's a great shoe. 👍
One thing a short test can't quantify is how much the more expensive (better cushioned) shoe may prevent injuries to your calves, knees, shin splints, etc. That injury prevention and ability to train injury-free for the long-haul may be well worth the extra $250 for someone who would otherwise have months of downtime or very expensive surgury and/or physical therapy.
I chose the nike turbo 2s over the alphas because 1 they are cheaper I paid £160 at the time, and 2 are more durable so last a lot longer for day to day training.
Great video Göran, I guess you might see more of an energy deviation between your two candidate shoes over longer distances e.g., half or marathon or longer - the Alphafly's do look like fun!
Thanks! Yeah you are probably right about that, yeah they are a bit weird but very fun to run with 😊
Hi the message of the video is right you don't need 300 pair of shoes etc... however the comparison should done be over multiple days and traininga sections... and probably be addressing more the feeling. my experience when I went from a a NV 40euro to a saucony End. Sp 2 and the feeling and comfort was on another level... not the speed... (I am recreational runner)... I am sure my knees were also much happier. So I will say, do a follow-up of this video after some weeks of compering the shoes...It will be great
U have such a nice and calming happy energy 😊
Pro golfer did a test w inexpensive vs very expensive clubs. Golfer concluded that the money you save and take golf lessons would be more efficient to lower your score. The equipment needs to be sufficient, but it's the proper training that makes improvement.
Ok that's cool to hear, yeah training is for sure the most important thing no matter what you want to become good at!
I once got a flat foot from wearing vans. I’m afraid to buy cheap shoes or flats now.
I was very fascinated about expensive shoes.Now I know 😄. Thanks bro. Love from india 🇮🇳
Loved the video! It was awesome and helpful thanks for the content
Glad it was helpful!
Great video as always. For us normal «Sunday joggers» I think you just proved that equipment doesn’t matter. However, I think you make a great point when you say that if an expensive shoe motivates you more, go for it. In the end, motivation is what matters most for progression.
Thanks! Yeah that is so true if something can motivate you to train more I think it's a good investment in your self and in your health. But yeah I think some people believe they need expensive gear even to start running and that is really not the case 😊
The difference was probably more due to the weight difference (about 30%?) rather than the tech. Nice video anyway!
I can’t use the information for my next purchase but this was very entertaining and felt good
Appreciate your efforts brother,
Thank you.
Re do the tests after the shoes have had a good deal of use. Cheap shoes, the cushioning can last only a few runs.
how can u not see that bright yellow green Nike when running, u can see them from 3km
Lighter (carbon) shoes help me alot on injury prevention, something to consider when choosing shoes.
Good video,! The main difference I've seen with expensive shoes (as someone with an old knee injury) is they tend to be more cushioned and absorb more of the impact for me.
Thanks! Yeah that is true, for sure the Alphafly was a lot more cushioned than the Nike Renew Run.
I wonder if she considered putting on a mismatched pair for fun?
Love your videos and smiles. Keep up you are wounderful
First video i saw from you, good quality, i watched the whole video
Thanks glad you liked it and welcome to the channel!
Good video,most Kenyan runners,run with simple shoes, very cheap,but they always win those marathons,
great video, appreciate you take into account placebo effect and first did a blind test
Good to see ur smiling face Sir
This applies in severel things. If you can pay the premium price without effort, go for it.
MY MAN BABCK AT IT AGAIN
It's kinda sad how youtube doesn't show you on my recommended page :( I rarely get notifications too. Do you have Instagram so I can see when you upload?
Ok that's strange I'm glad you found this video anyway, yeah I have Instagram same name there goranwinblad I always update my story there when I post a new video here on YT.
You are soo polite 🥺
Elsker din dialekt :D best wishes fra Litauen 👋
I don't run much, lately my foot's been hurting a bit I don't know why, but man those pricey shoes look nice. I've never gotten running shoes, just casual sports ones
Good to see that your running engine is more important than your shoes (at most levels) probably not at the top competition. Great video, your fast 👍🏿
Yeah you are right. Thanks 😊
@@goranwinblad have you ever ran in vibram five fingers? I found that I like feeling the ground anything over 20 mm is too much.
Thanks for sharing this video, after 6 months hoping the rebound (compression) they are still the same.
I love the positivity
Your videos are so helpful
I like how you compared them
Thank you
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
So interesting report for who are thinking to buy a new running shoes. Very useful and to the point!!
Thanks, I'm glad to hear you found it helpful 😊