Well i am certainly no voice actor... but I am looking to improve with every episode and comments like these reinforce my confidence to put myself out there... so thank you!!!
A question I've had a lot of fun discussing with my DM and party members is, If a servant of a good deity--say, a servant of Bahamut, who is eminently good and just--if that creature agreed to sign his soukd over to a devil to, say, prevent a war in which innocents would suffer horribly, would Bahamut reward that gravest of sacrifices, and void the contract, so to speak, reclaiming his servant's souk and bringing it back to Celestia?
My guess would be that this would cause some conflict between the contracted party (Baatezu) and Bahamut... which would likely end in some work for Kelemvor to preside over and judge the mortal souls path to the afterlife. LOVE the question!!!
I'd say it depends on whether it was a lawful good deity, but even then a pact signed with a devil is binding, a lawful good deity would not break it because its in their nature to uphold law.
I love the origins of all this. Decades worth of background lore on Faerun is awesome. After over a decade (for me), I've been really getting back into it.
I prefer the OG origin story. For one, it’s the original story as it’s creators intended and two, because it effectively answers the question ‘what is the most powerful being in the Forgotten Realms?’. Asmodeus, along with his good aligned twin, created all of existence. The material plane, the sphere, even the gods and primordials (to include Dendar and AO) owe their very existence to him. And if he ever heals completely, he will have the power to unmake all that he had made. Now that’s a great back story for a villain.
Wow. This lore is so compelling. I could binge watch these for hours. Reminds me of telling ghost stories as a child with a torch in the dark haha. I can't wait for part 4! I've shared it too with a few of my friends and family to get them on board too. Keep up the good work 👹
Hopefully I can deliver on my plan to provide hundreds of hours of lore content... comments and kind words like these sure motivate me... so I cannot thank you enough!
I could have sworn that when they forged this pact it involved the Blood War and as long as the Blood War continued Asmodeus would get all the Atheism souls, and his main body would feed on them to repair itself.
I love your lore videos. But as someone that doesn't play tabletop; I would greatly prefer if the whole video was just in world lore. Without the tangents about dm'ing and other game play related talk. I realize I'm likely in the minority though. Either way I'll continue watching as these vids have increased my enjoyment of baldurs gate 3 😁 great work friend
"A twenty ton ruby? From the foundation, to the pillars, to the throne, and in the wall... A simple task with a call. Altered as a simple stone in a rod. With magic, one should not trust their eyes. A truth known by the lord of lies." The feminine voice of a slender form chuckles. Tenderils of shadows grips the pillar behind him. The caucasian jawline pronounced. A fiendish smile bearing teeth.
"Gods at this time have no concept of punishment". The same Gods tried to punish Asmodeus for his "unorthodox" methods, before. Got to love when it's obvious the writer's side on history xD
Man, great video! I've just watched this after another on the death/rebirth of Orcus, and your fact about the three copies of the Pact Primeval contracts has given me a vague scenario idea for a plane-hopping, potentially multiverse-ending high level campaign... You mention that one copy of the Pact is kept secured in Mechanus. Now, as Tenebrous Orcus killed the Prime Modron and assumed his position during his search for his Wand. What if, during his impersonation, Orcus came upon the copy that Primus was keeping. Would he destroy it then and there? Unlikely in my mind, as that would have rung alarm bells throughout the spheres. Would he have pocketed it away then, and whisked it away to Thanatos during his reascension? Either way, this would weaken Law and tip the scales dangerously in favour of Chaos in the Blood War, threatening the very existence of the multiverse...sounds like something only a rag-tag high-level group of PCs would have any chance of combatting ;) They might even be summoned by Asmodeus himself, in which case would he try to corrupt them even as he approaches them for help as potential allies? Surely those souls would be valuable....
As stated on a hidden page within the book spine from the lost chronicles of a deflawed tomemaker and chosen scribe of baator: Ahriman clashed into baator, his blood let born the first generation of devils. His ripped piece of tail otherwise, bitten by the positive energy of his sister jaziria, whom she could never part with while flying to the heavens, since it were the only thing she had left of her brother, got reincarnated into asmodeus as an angel, though not uncorruptable as many of the rest and born with black feathered wings which haunted him to be always a topic of curiosity and accusements of false celestiality. Once a man named diwjapischtim came to the maligned serpent ahriman, a scholar of the ancient baatorians and survivor of their demise at the hands of zargon. He fled, withstand and turned to a primal form of a lich to survive the state of time and madness. After ahriman fell from the skies, the once lost paradise now met a second crisis as the devils ran rampart, though zargons armies stood strong against the invading forces. Diwjapischtim sought out the collossal serpent and bargained to bring order amidst chaos in the corrupted and decadent lands in exchange for his eternal service. Ahriman accepted the offer, although diwjapischtim had to wait for a time, while serving as a mediator and scribe, aswell as a puppeteer within divine affairs, until reinforcements would arrive. For that, ahriman blessed diwjapischtim with his might and made him a devil and his right hand and general of all matters now known as diwjat, the ablazed. Tharizdun, once a god of oerth, sought out the hidden mysteries of the multiverse, together with his divine companions pelor and ioun. They found a fragment of a shattered portal, the living gate to the far realm and an artifact of times when jaziria and ahriman, the ouroboros siblings, were still a power fighting together against the elder evils and the obyrith demons. The three curious gods changed in different ways and fled the szene. In times of the dawn war, power hungry as he was, tharizdun killed the guardian of the living gate, an ancient coatl and one of the very first children of jaziria, opened it and got corrupted due to the obyriths seed of chaos, creating the abyss, where he got shackled by none other than asmodeus himself in its deepest layers, unbeknownst to him that it were diwjat who planted the seeds of evil into tharizduns mind in the beginning. This were the point where asmodeus met the right hand general of ahriman, who proposed him the perfect place for a prison and they sealed the now known chained god away, unbeknownst to him that, through diwjat, ahriman planted a seed of corruption into asmodeus in hope, that they will become one piece again some day, mirroring his hate into him. The fact that the angels and deities became feared of him and his companions during the dawn war and the awakened seed of evil within him are the biggest reasons why asmodeus never mentioned diwjat or the exact accurate location of the mad gods prison in the face of the gods, why he were flesh fresh for pazuzus machinations during his watch over the seal and why he revolted against he who was. Afterwards, asmodeus created of the pact primeval and, together with his companions of fallen angels and second generation of devils, made his way to baator, where he banished zargon for the first time before the events of cynidicea, claimed his rule, slayed diwjat to take his place, shackled his other side ahriman below of nessus and took command over all the devils, born from ahrimans... his... blood, reigning as the archdevil over the now known baatezu. No one shall ever know of ahriman, diwjat or he who was, so that his reign can persist and so he let all what and who knew be vanished from the realm, unbeknownst to him that its just a matter of time before things will fall apart... and ahriman can wait eternally... Though as you can see... all the origin myths are true in their own way, although it must be said that he who was were never killed by asmodeus. He simply secluded himself from the rest of the cosmos. Some believe that he ventured out in seek of the so called 'luminous being' as some say it were his master or father. You may ask his goals, but you will never get an answer. The gods ways are unfathomable... maybe... just maybe he thinks that the 'luminous being' could save us all and bring us an utopia, but that will never really happen in my honest and humble opinion. Asmodeus himself would make that happen a lot faster, if the blood war would finally come to an end and as long he won't succumb to his other side of course. Would be happy to know what you think about it and if i missed some inconsistencies to correct ;)
This was awesome to watch, thank you! Since you've stated that you view the "Pact Primeval" as the canon origin story of Asmodeus & the Nine Hells, does that mean that you feel the Dawn War is NOT canon? I ask because the Pact Primeval makes no mention of Tharizdun, the Obryiths, or the Shard of Evil (which supposedly birthed the Abyss & demonkind as it currently exists). I've also looked on dndbeyond but can't find any mention of the Dawn War. Thoughts?
Oh I have thoughts! :) Way more than I can put in a comment. My approach to the lore is to use the 2e/planescape/3/3.5 lore when possible, but doing so where it least impacts the current/5e game. Unfortunately the spellplague happened (4e) and the timeline changed (4e). In that lore, the Dawn War was introduced, which normally I would disregard because "most" (not all) the 4e lore is in direct conflict with everything else (don't get me started on what they did to the outer planes, specifically Hell and the Abyss. But the Dawn War introduced in 4e did fill a lore gap where there was not a ton of lore for it to step on. This is a very incomplete answer, but hopefully it gives you an idea on my stance. Happy to answer any direct questions on it.
@@RichesandLiches Thank you for the reply! Do you have a video on the Spellplague? I've found some lore on it (written & visual), but would love your take on it as this truly does seem like a crazy period of time. I'm also very interested in how the Spellplague is what caused Azuth to fall into Baator & become consumed by Asmodeus.
Asmodeus doesn't lie. He created lies so that words could matter and truth could have meaning. He takes his own word very seriously and would never give it lightly. All of His origins are true, in a way.
What about the BIG Boss saten was written out I heard a small script the story that he was shank by baal-zebub then asmodeus shanks baal-zebub before power I hope Big boss comes back whip some demon devil. Is it goes both ways he's the one who made them stray from the light
Its a big task to present Asmodeus and you nailed it.
Well i am certainly no voice actor... but I am looking to improve with every episode and comments like these reinforce my confidence to put myself out there... so thank you!!!
Thanks for the amazing art and storytelling
Thank you so much for the Super Thanks and your time to watch and comment... it means so much to see appreciation for the work.
Thanks
This was amazing
Fucking epic, devil in the details
A question I've had a lot of fun discussing with my DM and party members is, If a servant of a good deity--say, a servant of Bahamut, who is eminently good and just--if that creature agreed to sign his soukd over to a devil to, say, prevent a war in which innocents would suffer horribly, would Bahamut reward that gravest of sacrifices, and void the contract, so to speak, reclaiming his servant's souk and bringing it back to Celestia?
My guess would be that this would cause some conflict between the contracted party (Baatezu) and Bahamut... which would likely end in some work for Kelemvor to preside over and judge the mortal souls path to the afterlife.
LOVE the question!!!
I'd say it depends on whether it was a lawful good deity, but even then a pact signed with a devil is binding, a lawful good deity would not break it because its in their nature to uphold law.
These get better and better, would love your take on a Diabolist warlock.
Thank you! I really appreciate the words of encouragement. Volume 4 and 5 are both in production and coming soon!
Wow! This is the best video yet in the series. That last line was epic! Amazing work. Really amazing.
Thank you so much 😀 - i cannot thank you guys enough for watching and commenting!
I love the origins of all this. Decades worth of background lore on Faerun is awesome. After over a decade (for me), I've been really getting back into it.
That is awesome, thanks for the comments and views!
This is the best D&D lore channel I've come across. Good stuff.👍🏾
Wow, thank you!
Super kind of you to say... /bow
I prefer the OG origin story. For one, it’s the original story as it’s creators intended and two, because it effectively answers the question ‘what is the most powerful being in the Forgotten Realms?’.
Asmodeus, along with his good aligned twin, created all of existence. The material plane, the sphere, even the gods and primordials (to include Dendar and AO) owe their very existence to him. And if he ever heals completely, he will have the power to unmake all that he had made.
Now that’s a great back story for a villain.
yes I am excited for the next episode!
Its in production! Thank you for the comment!
Wow. This lore is so compelling. I could binge watch these for hours. Reminds me of telling ghost stories as a child with a torch in the dark haha.
I can't wait for part 4! I've shared it too with a few of my friends and family to get them on board too. Keep up the good work 👹
Hopefully I can deliver on my plan to provide hundreds of hours of lore content... comments and kind words like these sure motivate me... so I cannot thank you enough!
3 months later and “read the fine print” still gives me goosebumps. Oooh, chills!
These are awesome, thanks for the chance to catch up on all this lore. Take care 😎 🤘 🍻
Glad you like them! Thanks for the continued comments!
This is one hell of a good lore presentation. Looking forward to the next part.
Thank you so much... words like these really are encouraging... likely more than many realize :)
Love this channel
Thank you so much for watching and commenting with such kind words!
This was nice.
Thank you for the kind words!
I could have sworn that when they forged this pact it involved the Blood War and as long as the Blood War continued Asmodeus would get all the Atheism souls, and his main body would feed on them to repair itself.
Love your lore videos man.... Keep it up and thank you for your service.
I will make you a deal... you keep watching and commenting and i will keep making them.! :)
This is a fantastic series and I love the art used! I’ve been binging your content and you should be super proud of your work. Instant sub.
If the Origin of The Ruby Rod doesn't involve a Fifth Element reference I'll be gutted 😂😂
Did not even think of that... but now that you mention it... i MUST include it somehow !!
I still don't picture a rod of primeval when someone says, "Ruby Rod".
hot Hot HOT!!!
Love it. Listening one by one. Awesome lore, all ye DMs and PCs
Asmodeus seems to me to be a reformulation of Belial.
I love your lore videos. But as someone that doesn't play tabletop; I would greatly prefer if the whole video was just in world lore. Without the tangents about dm'ing and other game play related talk.
I realize I'm likely in the minority though. Either way I'll continue watching as these vids have increased my enjoyment of baldurs gate 3 😁 great work friend
I’m back; stuff has happened and I’ve forgotten R&L lora😢
Well, time to rewatch all rich’s vids! Woooh!
On another note “read the fine print” is epic
Love your series i started playing the baldurs gate games and wanted to learn more about d&d lore. Easiest sub ever.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment, I really appreciate the kind words!
Where are my chaotic good gods to say “no i care not what laws you follow, you are a blight on creation” when we need them 🥹
"A twenty ton ruby? From the foundation, to the pillars, to the throne, and in the wall...
A simple task with a call.
Altered as a simple stone in a rod.
With magic, one should not trust their eyes. A truth known by the lord of lies."
The feminine voice of a slender form chuckles. Tenderils of shadows grips the pillar behind him.
The caucasian jawline pronounced. A fiendish smile bearing teeth.
Do you have any idea how many 20 ton rubies Asmodeus has just laying around? Thats a great hiding place for him!
"Gods at this time have no concept of punishment".
The same Gods tried to punish Asmodeus for his "unorthodox" methods, before.
Got to love when it's obvious the writer's side on history xD
You definitely gotta do some videos on Greyhawk. They will be fire
My lore on Greyhawk is spotty... but this is a great opportunity to do some extended research, challenge accepted.
Man, great video! I've just watched this after another on the death/rebirth of Orcus, and your fact about the three copies of the Pact Primeval contracts has given me a vague scenario idea for a plane-hopping, potentially multiverse-ending high level campaign...
You mention that one copy of the Pact is kept secured in Mechanus. Now, as Tenebrous Orcus killed the Prime Modron and assumed his position during his search for his Wand. What if, during his impersonation, Orcus came upon the copy that Primus was keeping. Would he destroy it then and there? Unlikely in my mind, as that would have rung alarm bells throughout the spheres. Would he have pocketed it away then, and whisked it away to Thanatos during his reascension?
Either way, this would weaken Law and tip the scales dangerously in favour of Chaos in the Blood War, threatening the very existence of the multiverse...sounds like something only a rag-tag high-level group of PCs would have any chance of combatting ;)
They might even be summoned by Asmodeus himself, in which case would he try to corrupt them even as he approaches them for help as potential allies? Surely those souls would be valuable....
I love this!
@@RichesandLiches Thanks! I have to say, huge respect for the amount of work you put into these vids and their presentation.
Very very cool!!
As stated on a hidden page within the book spine from the lost chronicles of a deflawed tomemaker and chosen scribe of baator:
Ahriman clashed into baator, his blood let born the first generation of devils. His ripped piece of tail otherwise, bitten by the positive energy of his sister jaziria, whom she could never part with while flying to the heavens, since it were the only thing she had left of her brother, got reincarnated into asmodeus as an angel, though not uncorruptable as many of the rest and born with black feathered wings which haunted him to be always a topic of curiosity and accusements of false celestiality.
Once a man named diwjapischtim came to the maligned serpent ahriman, a scholar of the ancient baatorians and survivor of their demise at the hands of zargon. He fled, withstand and turned to a primal form of a lich to survive the state of time and madness. After ahriman fell from the skies, the once lost paradise now met a second crisis as the devils ran rampart, though zargons armies stood strong against the invading forces. Diwjapischtim sought out the collossal serpent and bargained to bring order amidst chaos in the corrupted and decadent lands in exchange for his eternal service. Ahriman accepted the offer, although diwjapischtim had to wait for a time, while serving as a mediator and scribe, aswell as a puppeteer within divine affairs, until reinforcements would arrive. For that, ahriman blessed diwjapischtim with his might and made him a devil and his right hand and general of all matters now known as diwjat, the ablazed.
Tharizdun, once a god of oerth, sought out the hidden mysteries of the multiverse, together with his divine companions pelor and ioun. They found a fragment of a shattered portal, the living gate to the far realm and an artifact of times when jaziria and ahriman, the ouroboros siblings, were still a power fighting together against the elder evils and the obyrith demons. The three curious gods changed in different ways and fled the szene. In times of the dawn war, power hungry as he was, tharizdun killed the guardian of the living gate, an ancient coatl and one of the very first children of jaziria, opened it and got corrupted due to the obyriths seed of chaos, creating the abyss, where he got shackled by none other than asmodeus himself in its deepest layers, unbeknownst to him that it were diwjat who planted the seeds of evil into tharizduns mind in the beginning.
This were the point where asmodeus met the right hand general of ahriman, who proposed him the perfect place for a prison and they sealed the now known chained god away, unbeknownst to him that, through diwjat, ahriman planted a seed of corruption into asmodeus in hope, that they will become one piece again some day, mirroring his hate into him. The fact that the angels and deities became feared of him and his companions during the dawn war and the awakened seed of evil within him are the biggest reasons why asmodeus never mentioned diwjat or the exact accurate location of the mad gods prison in the face of the gods, why he were flesh fresh for pazuzus machinations during his watch over the seal and why he revolted against he who was.
Afterwards, asmodeus created of the pact primeval and, together with his companions of fallen angels and second generation of devils, made his way to baator, where he banished zargon for the first time before the events of cynidicea, claimed his rule, slayed diwjat to take his place, shackled his other side ahriman below of nessus and took command over all the devils, born from ahrimans... his... blood, reigning as the archdevil over the now known baatezu. No one shall ever know of ahriman, diwjat or he who was, so that his reign can persist and so he let all what and who knew be vanished from the realm, unbeknownst to him that its just a matter of time before things will fall apart...
and ahriman can wait eternally...
Though as you can see... all the origin myths are true in their own way, although it must be said that he who was were never killed by asmodeus. He simply secluded himself from the rest of the cosmos. Some believe that he ventured out in seek of the so called 'luminous being' as some say it were his master or father. You may ask his goals, but you will never get an answer. The gods ways are unfathomable... maybe... just maybe he thinks that the 'luminous being' could save us all and bring us an utopia, but that will never really happen in my honest and humble opinion. Asmodeus himself would make that happen a lot faster, if the blood war would finally come to an end and as long he won't succumb to his other side of course.
Would be happy to know what you think about it and if i missed some inconsistencies to correct ;)
This was awesome to watch, thank you! Since you've stated that you view the "Pact Primeval" as the canon origin story of Asmodeus & the Nine Hells, does that mean that you feel the Dawn War is NOT canon? I ask because the Pact Primeval makes no mention of Tharizdun, the Obryiths, or the Shard of Evil (which supposedly birthed the Abyss & demonkind as it currently exists). I've also looked on dndbeyond but can't find any mention of the Dawn War.
Thoughts?
Oh I have thoughts! :)
Way more than I can put in a comment. My approach to the lore is to use the 2e/planescape/3/3.5 lore when possible, but doing so where it least impacts the current/5e game.
Unfortunately the spellplague happened (4e) and the timeline changed (4e). In that lore, the Dawn War was introduced, which normally I would disregard because "most" (not all) the 4e lore is in direct conflict with everything else (don't get me started on what they did to the outer planes, specifically Hell and the Abyss.
But the Dawn War introduced in 4e did fill a lore gap where there was not a ton of lore for it to step on.
This is a very incomplete answer, but hopefully it gives you an idea on my stance. Happy to answer any direct questions on it.
@@RichesandLiches Thank you for the reply! Do you have a video on the Spellplague? I've found some lore on it (written & visual), but would love your take on it as this truly does seem like a crazy period of time.
I'm also very interested in how the Spellplague is what caused Azuth to fall into Baator & become consumed by Asmodeus.
damn this is some good content.
Asmodeus doesn't lie. He created lies so that words could matter and truth could have meaning. He takes his own word very seriously and would never give it lightly. All of His origins are true, in a way.
Spoken like a true Infernal PR man... the "Lord of Lies" should hire you, well done :)
What music do you use for the outro?
Its just a stock royalty free "metal clip" - if i had my choice I would be playing some Be'lakor!
"Asmodai, make them repent!"
I think that the fiends of the abyss and hells make a better pantheon of evil gods than Bane and such.
Completely agree!
What about the BIG Boss saten was written out I heard a small script the story that he was shank by baal-zebub then asmodeus shanks baal-zebub before power I hope Big boss comes back whip some demon devil. Is it goes both ways he's the one who made them stray from the light
Fantastic!
~_~
What was the four words?
Read the fine print...
longer vids are better