Played a level 20 Giant Barbarian back when the UA first came out. My DM and I discussed where Mighty Impel says “within 30 feet of yourself” and concluded that it includes height. Assuming a Huge height of 25 feet plus 5 feet from a standing high jump with 24 strength, this meant a 60’ fall on a failed save. Not the most powerful bonus action at 20th level, but boy was it fun to body slam anything that couldn’t beat a DC 21 Strength save.
I mean, you say not optimal, but your flying grapples will be legendary! Also, you can fly 15 feet up and hit people with a halberd and they can't hit you back
That sounds awesome. If you want something else super hilarious, grab a Hand Crossbow and the Sharpshooter feat. Instead of shooting the weapon, throw it instead. Since it now has the thrown property, it actually qualifies for Sharpshooter.
@@1.21jiggawatts2 That combination is truly hilarious but I think I wanna use a halberd for more reach shenanigans and probably won’t have the feats to grab both PAM and SS
Rune Carver: Armor of Agathys on a One D&D Moon Druid. The updated wild shape allows them to keep items while in wild shape. Put it on an item that fits most forms like bracers. They can also cast abjuration spells while wild shaped, so extra temp HP and damage without having to change back.
In case anyone missed it (I think Treantmonk did), the last sentence of the 2nd paragraph of Rune Shaper: "While you are wearing or carrying any rune-marked object, you can cast the spells associated with those runes using any spell slots you have."
or just take Magic Initiate (arcane) for same spell and you dont need to worry about items, plus you get cantrips from arcane spell list- including Blade Ward that you also can cast in Wild Shape form.
It's also a new way of getting Armor of Agathys on an Abjuration Wizard (a VERY potent combo because of how that spell interacts with the arcane ward).
Rune Shaper is great on an Abjuration Wizard, giving you Entangle at level 1, as well as Inflict Wounds for your Familiar, and especially: Armor of Agathys for the "You're trapped in here with me" method of killing enemies. Otherwise it is solely flavour unfortunately.
Given that all the L4 feats have a prerequisite of the 'meh' first level feat they actually require 2 feat slots. Given the rule in the book that allows toughness (or skilled) as a universal L1 feat they need to be weighed against toughness+unrestricted feat.
@@Maharvelyes, what they're saying is that for other L4 feats, you can take Tough as part of your background instead of your the giant feat, but that wouldn't give you access to the L4 giant feats, meaning it needs to be weighed against that combination.
Or... you can multiclass 2 levels of Pact of the Blade Warlock: . Pact Weapon: Thrown Weapon with auto-return function. . 2 Invocations: (Pick Your Favourite) + Lessons of the First Ones (select a level 1 feat). Extra Cheese: Each time you level up any class (not only Warlock) you can shuffle "Lessons..." again & select a different lvl 1 feat. -> Do it whenever you want to "get" one of this prerequisite Lvl 4 Feats & then change it again next level. You do not keep the previous lvl 1 feats, but each lvl 4 feat remains. EXTRA Cheese: Pick "Eldritch Initiate" at first level to get "Lessons..." from the get go [no need to make a "Pact" with a "Patron" at all].
@@adolfodef Sure, but if you no longer qualify for the prerequisites of a feat you lose access to it. For instance, if a feat requires 13 Str, and you get strength drained to 9, you lose access to the feat until you meet the prerequisite again. So if you retrain the base feat, you lose access to the whole feat chain.
I really hate that the design team constantly does a thing with new stuff for Martials where they give relatively minor but decent effects that are limited use. It would not break the game to let the those features just be new abilities that apply to every turn. Early levels would feel more powerful, but later levels Martials would still be outclassed by casters. I am hyped about the subclass though. This was my favorite thing out of the Giant UA thematically and I am so happy that it finally released. That level 6 feature is so cool for the flavor of your Barbarian. I just imagine throwing a Maul, Polearm, or Great Axe at an enemy who thinks they are a little too far away for you to reach and it's epic every time. I also just love spells and abilities that change size categories. I cannot wait to give this subclass a shot.
Make them usable "half of Proficiency Bonus" (round down) times per Short/Long Rest; but lasting 1 minute (or 10), until ends, free action or Incapacitated.
Idea: Multiclass 3 levels of Warrior of the Elements Monk (Unarmed Attacks to targets at 20 feet of you). -> +20 Feet extra speed from Barbarian + Monk levels . 1st Turn: Equip Weapon, Rage (Infused Weapon), Move, Attack, Extra Attack. -> Optional: (if Infusing a light weapon): Thrown another with "Nick" . 2nd Turn: Store/sheet Infused Weapon [Nothing on both hands] . Bonus Action: Medium creature is now 40 feet from the ground (you are Large: 10 Feet + 30 Feet on a point you can see from your eyes). . Action: Jump High (at least 15 Feet), Thrown Infused Weapon (no object interaction, ¿Push?) + Extra Unarmed Attack (Push option) {Optional: Lvl 1 Feat: Tavern Brawler: Push AND do damage} Medium creature is now 50 or 55 feet over the ground. Then falls prone & takes fall damage.
Either x times per SHORT rest and make it pretty strong, x times per LONG rest and make it strong, or usable as often as you want and make it just okay. But we keep getting meh or pretty good x times per LONG rest, and that it has to be worse than what casters get.
I love the combo of Giant Barbarian, with the Ember of the Fire Giant AOE (maybe with Scourge Aasimar). The concept of taking up a large sized space, utilizing valuable space in the battlefield, and going into a horde encounter as an aoe blender tank, excites me like few other things. Yes, Spirit Guardians exist, but this hypothetical character has no concentration to drop.
I'm spitballing here, but I think a frosty cavalier with PAM, Sentinel, and a few Javelins would be fun as an ultimate hold the line type character. Frost strike of the giants with a javelin or other str based thrown (hammers, axes, etc) could give the cavalier an interesting mid-range option against airborne targets and to effectively peel for the party at a distance where enemies can outpace the fighter. "Freeze, jaywalker!"
I was so disappointed that they didn’t give the Goliath the update that they teased in the UA. The Dragonborn got so much love, and the Goliath is definitely just as popular of a race, no idea why it was skipped over
@@saeedrazavi4428 wait really? Man, all these UAs of late have me all mixed up. I could have sworn this was in at least the revision for the Giant UA they did awhile back. Still, if it was possible then this would have been a good place to put the new giant anyway, even if they did just reprint it in the new PHB. It would give players more of a reason to actually buy it, because a single barbarian subclass and some mediocre feats aren’t selling me or most people from what I can tell
You don't understand how the playtest works do you, the new goliath is going to be in the players handbook, non players handbook races from MOM will still be valid, so, basically, just use the playtest, and this book will be valid for use once that comes out so you'll be able to use both once it comes out, if your DM says you can't use the playtest
Goliath's were the closest to stone giants, what I am most interested in is seeing the designs of the different giant-kin. How does a Hill Giant Goliath, Stone Giant Goliath, Frost Giant Goliath, Fire Giant Goliath, Cloud Giant Goliath and Storm Giant Goliath look like? Storm giants are the biggest, so will that kind of Goliath be the tallest? Hill giants are pretty degenerate, Wrong Turn looking ass troglodytes, how does a Goliath with that ancestry look like? Who even wants to be related to that? I feel like most people would be compelled to pick Storm giant ancestry due to the Ordening.
Regarding Path of the Giant vs Rune Knight at level 3, one big factor you didn’t mention is action economy. The Rune Knight needs a a bonus action to activate Giant’s Might, and a bonus action to activate half the runes, including two of the best ones: hill and frost. In comparison, Path of the Giant rolls all of it into your rage bonus action, so you’re fully set up from your first turn.
Guile of the Cloud Giant seems really nice. You can just have an ally punch you and you have a 30 foot teleport proficiency bonus times per day. As someone who loves teleportation in D&D, I would seriously consider this.
I think cinder of the fire giant is the coolest and is the feature I would most want on a fighter or barbarian! It's just a shame that fire is the least interesting strike of the giants option
I like Strike of the Giants (Storm) + Soul of the storm giant I usually main the shadar-kai race (MPMM) and found the botrq can mitigate incoming damage for 2-3 turns. I usually play in westmarch settings and usually fill in as the frontline despite being a non-bruiser/bulky build and my goal usually becomes buying time for my teammates. Having the Strike of the giants to set a if statement can mitigate some damage after I've burned all my blessing of the raven queen uses. On-hit with Strike of the Giants (Storm) - if monster fails the save and has disadvantage on all their attack rolls and is attack-based, I'm a bit safe - if they succeed the save, use Soul of the storm Giant to get dis against me anyway. At level 5 I can spread these defensive mitigations over the course of 3-9 turns.
Yes, they didn't change Elemental Cleaver, you can give your hand crossbow the thrown property and use crossbow expert with it! I can't wait to create my thrown crossbow expert
Rune Shaper feat gives everybody access to the best defensive spell in the game (imho) - Armor of Agathys. Every full or even half caster preparing for melee would love upcasting Armor of Agathys to break action economy with this 1 hour nonconcentration spell that heals and deals damage.🤔 Add Sanctuary for even more defensive layers. I am interested.
Guile of the cloud giant also can potentially break up a multiattack, if the monster had to move to get in range of melee with you, the 30 feet teleport may cause it to not be able to use the rest of its attacks or make it switch to ranged attacks which are generally weaker.
The funny thing about the thrown weapon fighting style is that all you need to apply it is the weapon having the thrown property, it doesn't specify one-handed weapons. So if you're taking a fighter dip for action surge, thrown weapon fighting is probably a better damage increase than great weapon fighting.
I could see the Frost Strike or Hill Strike alongside their corresponding 4th level feats being interesting in some Paladin builds as anti-kiting mobility tools. The Frost option feels thematically appropriate for Conquest Paladins, and can act as an additional way of locking down an enemy's movement, especially those who are immune to Frighten effects. The Hill Strike also works well mechanically with Conquest for the prone trap strategy (Frighten an enemy, reducing their speed to 0, then knock them prone so they can't stand up), but the Bulwark ability from Vigor of the Hill Giant also feels like it fits well with the MOTM Earth Genasi. It gives them a sense of inevitability as Earth Genasi can ignore difficult terrain and Bulwark allows them to negate push and prone abilities.
In my opinion, the weakness of the Barbarian large size ability has when compared to the comparable Rune Knight ability is its connection to Barbarian. Not that I think Barbarians are bad, or that this particular Barbarian subclass is bad, but one of the really fun and popular Rune Knight builds involves Duergar, since it allows them to use Giant's Might to grow to Large, then use their racial casting of Enlarge/Reduce to make themselves Huge at level 3 (and Gargantuan at level 18). Giant Barbarians can't do this without the aid of another player, since Rage prevents them from being able to cast or concentrate on spells.
I’m really surprised they let the Giant Barbarian get a non- once per turn damage boost. When I saw that in the playtest I was sure they’d nerf it, they never give Barbarian good things.
If I understand the 6th level feature correctly you can do, Thor's hammer throw every time you attack while raging. Basically you throw your weapon twice per attack & you change out the bonus damage on a bonus action(balancing reasons) It's actually pretty powerful. A multiclass with 11 fighter levels for 3 attacks would be intresting higher tier build, but a pure class barbarian could do that Thor thing with just unlimited rages.
Although not RAI, the wording of the 14th level feature would cause cumulative reach increases every time you rage, and you could permanently remain Huge. 14th Level Feature: "When you rage, your reach increases by 10 feet, your size can increase to Large or Huge (your choice)..." Compared to the wording of the 3rd Level Feature: "While raging, you gain the following benefits..."
Yeah that's obviously not what this feature is supposed to do. Otherwise you would increase your reach each time you rage by 10 feet until you had arms like Mr. Fantastic.
When you say you wouldn't pick those feats unless they were provided by the background. I agree, but that's only because these are intended to be half feats when taken for a full ASI. The same is true of the dragonlance feats. The 'starter' feats are generally half feat power, but without the half ASI. When one of my players wanted to take the squire feat chain recently in a non-dragonlance campaign recently, I allowed the Squire of Solamnia Feat as a Half feat (all the others in the feat chain are similar power level and are half feats after all). I wish they had clarified that these feats 'when taken after level 1' get an extra +1 ASI.
the giant feats having scaling damage of 1dX + profmod is not enough. 2dX, anytime your proficiency bonus increases, (5, 9, 13, 17), the damage increases by +1dX
I find it so strange that we don't get additional runes or battlemaster tactics in any supplements. Like we get spells all the time, surely it's not insane to add a few more toys to other toyboxes.
Oh wow, my bad! I'm going to hide behind the digital drop down landscape for why I didn't notice that the list had grown. Glad there is precedent then, though perhaps going to be a while longer considering the current development priority@@life-destiny1196
Remember when 5e was planning not to have feat taxes? Pepperidge Farm remembers. I think the real question for people is who thinks these options are supposed to be balanced with 5e options or 6e ones?
If you can use improvised weapons as thrown weapons then you could maybe do some more shenanigans ( I pick up my rouge with a ready action attack and throw him at the bbeg, when he hits the target he also uses his ready action to sneak attack the bbeg, then he immediately returns safely to my hand. )
I feel like the storm giant feat is tailored specifically with storm barbarian, storm sorcerer, and tempest cleric in mind, because it does seem like it would work well with those
Correct when you look at the reach property for weapons, it specifies your reach being extended for when you attack, or your reach for opportunity attacks. As you say it’s a saving throw for an unwilling creature not a form of attack roll.
Funny thing about the barbarian always having let down 10th level features, whenever I am making a homebrew barbarian I always have the 10th level feature be the weakest in the kit.
10(polearm)+5(bugbear)+10(14th level feature) = 25 feet of reach, your arms become farther than you can throw at the end of this subclass lmao. Imagine the sheer power of PAM or sentinel with this.
This means that if you are a Bugbear, path of giant barbarian with a reach weapon, you have a melee reach of 20ft, and at that rate, you don’t need thrown weapons
Observation on Elemental Cleaver: The ability doesn't state it has to be a melee weapon, so technically, you can add this ability to a hand crossbow, stacking some additional damage on to it for a crossbow expert build (and also giving it the Thrown property, which... might have some niche use? I don't see what it is yet, but it's in there somewhere). You could also use this to increase the range on a net (until the new addition is released, when nets stop being weapons). Not that a tiny piece of tech for nets is going to push them into the Tier1 weapon category, but it's a nice piece of tech. Importantly, this doesn't specify "simple or martial weapon", it's any weapon. So, this technically applies to Natural Weapons, Improvised Weapons and Seige Weapons (and Unarmed Strikes? Citation Needed). A Tabaxi can throw their claws sixty feet. You can launch an actual seige tower at your opponents. You... can change the damage type of your dragonborn breath weapon maybe (Citation Needed)?
It's also worth noting with Elemental Cleaver that it's ALL attacks you make with the weapon that get the d6 bonus damage, meaning that Giant Barbarians are even more reliant on Polearm Master than all the other Barbarians. I really hate the requirement martial characters have of feats to even make them playable, and in this case to even take the best advantage of your class features. If it weren't a single weapon you were holding that got the bonus, but any weapon you were holding, at least you could maybe try out dual wielding on giant barbarian, but instead you're forced even more into using a Polearm. It's super frustrating to me.
I don't feel forced to take PAM or GWM to be effective as a barbarian or fighter. I played a psi warrior and didn't take either and felt all my abilities let me be effective in more roles. I don't plan to take either with my path of the giant barbarian,, although that might change.
Let's not miss the real gem here, the way the level 4 Stone Giant feat is worded we can get to 360ft of darkvision on a Twilight Cleric. The power gaming is real.
If I am reading Mighty Impel right, as a bonus action you could throw an enemy 30ft up in the air dealing 3d6 fall damage and making them prone if they fail a Str save. And you can do this every turn? Now milage may very as ceilings get in the way and its restricted to Medium or smaller, but that seems like a really good bonus action option.
The Barbarian still makes me grumpy. I firmly believe they should have made the returning weapon benefit the level 3 feature with growing large. Then level 6 should have been the increased reach and the damage bonus. If you want to be a thrown weapon Barbarian, the idea of having to wait to level 6 before you’re not carrying a bunch of weapons is poor design. It can take months or a year to get to level 6 in some campaigns.
Soul of the storm giant is basically dodge with extra stuff, i get it its limited uses but still a very good use of your bonus action while available, what am i missing?
2-6 bonus action dodges a day is kinda underwhelming compared to Elven Accuracy or Resilient, two other half-feats, especially when this is not really a half feat, it's a 1.5 feat cost.
I feel if they had added that you could reckless attack with thrown weapons, it would have made this feel a bit better. It would have allowed you to really be a thrown weapon user and melee user, giving you an excellent skirmisher style of subclass. This is still awesome and I want to play it, but it would have been nice.
I was just looking at these options last night. Found the feats underwhelming. I was excited about strike of the giants until I got to the end... I thought it was decently strong until then.
A single level infighter gets you thrown weapon, fighting for more damage, and two levels in artificer gets you magical throne weapons. This seems like it would be an excellent 10 level Barbarian/10 level fighter build
Totally gonna multiclass a path of giant with a rune knight, sure the 3rd level features are a bit redundant but its thematically appropriate to do both
I can't believe they made it so Rune Knights can't get the Rune Shaper feat And NEITHER any of the other feats, unless you start the character over from scratch and change their background. IMO none of them needed the requirements. Instead of making sense, they're pointless restriction
I’m absolutely taking these feats on my goliath rune knight in tier 3. There are so few half feats with constitution for fighters. I’m bummed I can only take one of the half feats.
We finally got a feature that lets a tempest cleric deal lightning damage to turn on thunderbolt strike ...aaaand its on a barbarian and only works while raging. Nope.
I kind of disagree with your take on the Storm Giant options. For the benefit of mitigating damage through inflicting disadvantage to attack rolls, I think the Storm Giant options (in both the 1st Level and 4th level feats) are good. Ideally, this benefit can make a tank better should they be able to draw attacks to them while lessening the chances of inflicting damage at all. Sure, I agree that the damage resistance could have been done better - maybe Soul of the Storm Giant can permanently grant Thunder Resistance, and then grant Lightning Resistance with an expended use. I also agree that for Levels 1-3, sticking with just the 1st-Level feat does not grant enough uses or effectiveness for the effects provided. I also think that for the small number of uses and the usual Once Per Turn limitation, the 1st-Level effects should not need Saving Throws for their additional effects. However, I think as a reminder, the benefits for the Soul of the Storm Giant feat add on top of the Strike of the Giants (Lightning) feat. There is no way to benefit from that 4th-level feat independently from the 1st-level counterpart, and both options grant opportunities to inflict disadvantage on attack rolls to mitigate damage - basically half of the Dodge Action, either possibly for free on one target with a hit and a failed save, or as a Bonus Action on hordes with no save, optimally. Since you are given options to apply that debuff between both feats, for the Storm Giant options, I feel the number of overall uses makes the package of options work. You get PB number of uses for Disadvantage to attack rolls on the 1st-level feat, and the same application of disadvantage on the 4th-level feat for the same number of uses, not shared. After Level 4, you technically get twice your Proficiency Bonus to apply a solid debuff on enemies. That's of course when you get both feats. I'm speaking as a person who played a Level 6 character with both feats, so I felt like I had enough uses to last me through a few combats and apply that Disadvantage. I think they are a good package of feats together.
I am wondering why everyone calculates the falling damage as 3d6. As a large (bipedal) creature, you should be at least 10' tall. 30 feet from you would be 40' for 4d6 damage, not 30' from the ground. As huge, add another 10' to that. What am I missing?
Cloud Giant feat is good. You get 2 Misty Steps as a reaction? At level 4 you only have 3 castings of Misty Step and you never have more than three. By level 5 you've doubled the amount of times you can cast Misty Step which is probably a top 10 spell for its level. Will you need more than 3 Misty steps? Probably not unless youre a gish. Which means maybe a wizard doesn't even learn Plus 3 castings of an altered Absorb Elements. do you take hits from attacks or hits from energy types more? Likely attacks which makes it better than Absorb Elements IMO. So now you don't need that spell either! This is great for a melee cleric which doesnt have either of those spells or Swords Bard who wants a charisma half feat. Paladins and Hexblade Warlocks will like it as well.
I have a question that I'm having trouble answering. The Rune Shaper feat tells you that "You temporarily learn the 1st-level spells that correspond to the runes you inscribed, as specified on the Rune Spells table, and you know those spells until you finish a long rest, when the runes fade. " Does it mean that the spells you know by this feat are already prepared (like extra prepared spells) or that are only added to your spells list? and if i do not have them prepared can i still us them with the invoke action? i will be really glad and thankful if somebody could answer
I'm playing in a lvl 16 one shot in a few weeks. I usually play the party wizard. Figured I'd change things up and play a professional wrestler. This subclass could not have come out at a better time.
The Rune Shaper feats spell selection seems kinda bad. Armor of Agathys is a nice pickup if your building an abjurer, but other then that I have no idea why I'd take that feat.
I don't understand why WOTC not marked the Rune Shaper feat and the Strike of the Giants feat as 1st level feats too, is like they are not even trying to promote their new product OneDnD
Can I get you to weigh in on whether or not a large-sized PC can use a weapon from a large-sized stat block? Getting your hands on a minoraur"s greataxe would seem like a huge, unintended damage boost for a subclass like this.
Would the falling damage from throwing an enemy up in the air be 4d6 since you are large when raging? So 30ft from you would mean that they are thrown 30ft above yourself which are 10ft tall resulting in the enemy being 40ft above ground.
Strike of giants woulda been cool if you could just use it even a few more times, not even infinite but if it was at least PB+1 or half your level or something...
When you said “Keeness of the stone giant “ I thought you said P*nis of the stone giants and I had to do a double take… I wonder what a feat of that name would do…
'it automatically returns to your hand' ...why? That's not really a thing Giants are known for. Why does it take till level 10 to be able to pick up and throw something/one?
Mechanically and thematically those feats feel like something that you can find in PHB, it so weird that we got them 10 years later. Also it is a shame that you limited to single 4th+ level feat.
The Rune Shaper feat might combine with Rune Knight really well. Rune Shaper says; "While you are wearing or carrying any rune-marked object, you can cast the spells associated with those runes using any spell slots you have. You can also invoke a rune inscribed on an object you are wearing or carrying and cast its associated spell without expending a spell slot or using material components." The runes with the Rune Carver ability with the Rune Knight says, "While wearing or carrying an object inscribed with this rune, " Does this mean that if you get the Rune Carver background and select the fire rune and then get to 3rd level Rune Knight and get the cloud and stone rune, do you then get comprehend language, fog cloud, burning hand and sanctuary that you can cast once a long rest and all three abilities from Rune Knight.
That's all we got? Books like this are why I'm team backwards compatible, if they start fresh we are gonna have PHB and then like 3-4 new subclasses per year, that's gonna mean likely some classes will have 0 new subclasses for upwards of 3 years from PHB 2024. Where's the fun in that? The dragonlance book should have had a dragon themed subclass for every class and the giants book should have had a giant themed subclass for every class. Feats are always welcome but if we were getting books jam packed with more player options I'd be fine with a 6e but I see no signs they are gonna increase the rate of release for player options, they have become too timid about "balance"
I’m surprised that Fury of the Frost Giant wasn’t given a 8th level prerequisite as I’ve seen them treat Cold resistance as a rarer magic item effect than fire resistance.
Draconic sorcerers can choose it at character creation. Why wouldn't fire resist be the higher tier option considering it has so many use cases compared to less effective "rarer" magic? I can see why cold is considered a higher tier offensively for items that a player is intended to use because it is a less resisted damage type compared to fire, but defensively cold is less valuable and setting dependent because few creatures deal cold.
@@zenithmaiden2109 the only response I’ve gotten is that because it’s rarer to experience cold damage it’s considered more valuable because fire resistance is a dime a dozen.
I have a question about Giant Stature. The way I read it, you become Large size when you rage, and this is not optional. So in tight spaces you have to deal with squeezing rules, and if the space is small enough (such as the example art's halfling barbarian in a small space), wouldn't it be impossible for that halfling to rage? In a similar vein, what does the level 14 feature actually mean? Do you get the choice between large or huge, or can you also choose to remain your original size?
the first part at least is quite literally answered by reading the last sentence in the feature description. "If there isn't enough room for you to increase your size, your size does not change."
I can't help but be disappointed by the feats in this book. Sure, a lot of the half feats are fine, but they aren't really half feats because of that prerequisite. You're having to pick up another feat to get them, and strike of the giants isn't good enough alone. You're taking a feat and a half for what feels like 2 half feats in power.
7:35 Its not common to go for a build that maxes out darkvision distance, but it seems to me that Keenness of the Stone Giant would be a must have in that particular scenario. If you are playing a Drow Gloomstalker with 150 ft darkvision, and you stir through the night wishing you had 210 ft darkvision, then this feat would be a must have. And before anyone says it: TWILIGHT CLERICS ARE NOT REAL (to me).
Does elemental cleaver never turn off properly? It says it turns on when you start the rage, it says the extra damage requires you to rage, as does adding the thrown property. It then says whenever you throw an infused weapon it returns to your hand. It says the infusion is suppressed when another creature uses it. I think if you were to infuse a thrown weapon, it would always return to your hand, despite rage.
Played a level 20 Giant Barbarian back when the UA first came out. My DM and I discussed where Mighty Impel says “within 30 feet of yourself” and concluded that it includes height. Assuming a Huge height of 25 feet plus 5 feet from a standing high jump with 24 strength, this meant a 60’ fall on a failed save. Not the most powerful bonus action at 20th level, but boy was it fun to body slam anything that couldn’t beat a DC 21 Strength save.
It's just nice to have a Barbarian subclass you could feel good about taking for most of your levels instead of just jumping ship at 5th or below.
So much shenannigans to be had.
Warlock holds eldritch blast with repelling blast.
Barbarian tosses up, off goes eldritch blast... very high fall. :P
I’m so excited to try out this Barbarian subclass on my Fairy character. Not optimal but definitely hilarious
I mean, you say not optimal, but your flying grapples will be legendary! Also, you can fly 15 feet up and hit people with a halberd and they can't hit you back
@@saeedrazavi4428 I am definitely excited to grab someone, fly 15 ft up, and throw them another 30 ft up into the air
That sounds awesome. If you want something else super hilarious, grab a Hand Crossbow and the Sharpshooter feat. Instead of shooting the weapon, throw it instead. Since it now has the thrown property, it actually qualifies for Sharpshooter.
@@1.21jiggawatts2 That combination is truly hilarious but I think I wanna use a halberd for more reach shenanigans and probably won’t have the feats to grab both PAM and SS
😂
Rune Carver: Armor of Agathys on a One D&D Moon Druid. The updated wild shape allows them to keep items while in wild shape. Put it on an item that fits most forms like bracers. They can also cast abjuration spells while wild shaped, so extra temp HP and damage without having to change back.
In case anyone missed it (I think Treantmonk did), the last sentence of the 2nd paragraph of Rune Shaper: "While you are wearing or carrying any rune-marked object, you can cast the spells associated with those runes using any spell slots you have."
or just take Magic Initiate (arcane) for same spell and you dont need to worry about items, plus you get cantrips from arcane spell list- including Blade Ward that you also can cast in Wild Shape form.
It's also a new way of getting Armor of Agathys on an Abjuration Wizard (a VERY potent combo because of how that spell interacts with the arcane ward).
Rune Shaper is great on an Abjuration Wizard, giving you Entangle at level 1, as well as Inflict Wounds for your Familiar, and especially: Armor of Agathys for the "You're trapped in here with me" method of killing enemies.
Otherwise it is solely flavour unfortunately.
Given that all the L4 feats have a prerequisite of the 'meh' first level feat they actually require 2 feat slots. Given the rule in the book that allows toughness (or skilled) as a universal L1 feat they need to be weighed against toughness+unrestricted feat.
But you can get the 1st level feat for free with a background.
@@Maharvelyes, what they're saying is that for other L4 feats, you can take Tough as part of your background instead of your the giant feat, but that wouldn't give you access to the L4 giant feats, meaning it needs to be weighed against that combination.
Or... you can multiclass 2 levels of Pact of the Blade Warlock:
. Pact Weapon: Thrown Weapon with auto-return function.
. 2 Invocations: (Pick Your Favourite) + Lessons of the First Ones (select a level 1 feat).
Extra Cheese: Each time you level up any class (not only Warlock) you can shuffle "Lessons..." again & select a different lvl 1 feat.
-> Do it whenever you want to "get" one of this prerequisite Lvl 4 Feats & then change it again next level.
You do not keep the previous lvl 1 feats, but each lvl 4 feat remains.
EXTRA Cheese: Pick "Eldritch Initiate" at first level to get "Lessons..." from the get go [no need to make a "Pact" with a "Patron" at all].
@@_zurr oh my bad, I didn't see that, thanks for clarifying.
@@adolfodef Sure, but if you no longer qualify for the prerequisites of a feat you lose access to it. For instance, if a feat requires 13 Str, and you get strength drained to 9, you lose access to the feat until you meet the prerequisite again.
So if you retrain the base feat, you lose access to the whole feat chain.
I really hate that the design team constantly does a thing with new stuff for Martials where they give relatively minor but decent effects that are limited use. It would not break the game to let the those features just be new abilities that apply to every turn. Early levels would feel more powerful, but later levels Martials would still be outclassed by casters.
I am hyped about the subclass though. This was my favorite thing out of the Giant UA thematically and I am so happy that it finally released. That level 6 feature is so cool for the flavor of your Barbarian. I just imagine throwing a Maul, Polearm, or Great Axe at an enemy who thinks they are a little too far away for you to reach and it's epic every time. I also just love spells and abilities that change size categories. I cannot wait to give this subclass a shot.
Make them usable "half of Proficiency Bonus" (round down) times per Short/Long Rest; but lasting 1 minute (or 10), until ends, free action or Incapacitated.
Idea: Multiclass 3 levels of Warrior of the Elements Monk (Unarmed Attacks to targets at 20 feet of you).
-> +20 Feet extra speed from Barbarian + Monk levels
. 1st Turn: Equip Weapon, Rage (Infused Weapon), Move, Attack, Extra Attack.
-> Optional: (if Infusing a light weapon): Thrown another with "Nick"
. 2nd Turn: Store/sheet Infused Weapon
[Nothing on both hands]
. Bonus Action: Medium creature is now 40 feet from the ground (you are Large: 10 Feet + 30 Feet on a point you can see from your eyes).
. Action: Jump High (at least 15 Feet), Thrown Infused Weapon (no object interaction, ¿Push?) + Extra Unarmed Attack (Push option)
{Optional: Lvl 1 Feat: Tavern Brawler: Push AND do damage}
Medium creature is now 50 or 55 feet over the ground. Then falls prone & takes fall damage.
3lvl Barb (Whatever Sub you want)
17lvl Rune Knight.
🎶 I can do anything you can do better! 🎶
Either x times per SHORT rest and make it pretty strong, x times per LONG rest and make it strong, or usable as often as you want and make it just okay. But we keep getting meh or pretty good x times per LONG rest, and that it has to be worse than what casters get.
I love the combo of Giant Barbarian, with the Ember of the Fire Giant AOE (maybe with Scourge Aasimar). The concept of taking up a large sized space, utilizing valuable space in the battlefield, and going into a horde encounter as an aoe blender tank, excites me like few other things. Yes, Spirit Guardians exist, but this hypothetical character has no concentration to drop.
I'm spitballing here, but I think a frosty cavalier with PAM, Sentinel, and a few Javelins would be fun as an ultimate hold the line type character. Frost strike of the giants with a javelin or other str based thrown (hammers, axes, etc) could give the cavalier an interesting mid-range option against airborne targets and to effectively peel for the party at a distance where enemies can outpace the fighter. "Freeze, jaywalker!"
I was so disappointed that they didn’t give the Goliath the update that they teased in the UA. The Dragonborn got so much love, and the Goliath is definitely just as popular of a race, no idea why it was skipped over
That was the UA for the 2024 playtest - this book may have been past the point in production where they could have used that
@@saeedrazavi4428 wait really? Man, all these UAs of late have me all mixed up. I could have sworn this was in at least the revision for the Giant UA they did awhile back. Still, if it was possible then this would have been a good place to put the new giant anyway, even if they did just reprint it in the new PHB. It would give players more of a reason to actually buy it, because a single barbarian subclass and some mediocre feats aren’t selling me or most people from what I can tell
You don't understand how the playtest works do you, the new goliath is going to be in the players handbook, non players handbook races from MOM will still be valid, so, basically, just use the playtest, and this book will be valid for use once that comes out so you'll be able to use both once it comes out, if your DM says you can't use the playtest
@@nyanbrox5418 You didn't read what he said did you... He knows it's gonna be in the new PHB, he just wanted it in Bigby's as well
Goliath's were the closest to stone giants, what I am most interested in is seeing the designs of the different giant-kin.
How does a Hill Giant Goliath, Stone Giant Goliath, Frost Giant Goliath, Fire Giant Goliath, Cloud Giant Goliath and Storm Giant Goliath look like? Storm giants are the biggest, so will that kind of Goliath be the tallest? Hill giants are pretty degenerate, Wrong Turn looking ass troglodytes, how does a Goliath with that ancestry look like? Who even wants to be related to that? I feel like most people would be compelled to pick Storm giant ancestry due to the Ordening.
Rune Shaper also has armor of Agathys, that could be strong on a Moon Druid/Barbarian multiclass or some other build with clerics or druids
Regarding Path of the Giant vs Rune Knight at level 3, one big factor you didn’t mention is action economy. The Rune Knight needs a a bonus action to activate Giant’s Might, and a bonus action to activate half the runes, including two of the best ones: hill and frost. In comparison, Path of the Giant rolls all of it into your rage bonus action, so you’re fully set up from your first turn.
Guile of the Cloud Giant seems really nice. You can just have an ally punch you and you have a 30 foot teleport proficiency bonus times per day. As someone who loves teleportation in D&D, I would seriously consider this.
I think cinder of the fire giant is the coolest and is the feature I would most want on a fighter or barbarian! It's just a shame that fire is the least interesting strike of the giants option
Agreed! I've always wanted some kind of elemental AOE for barbs and this fits pretty well.
Strike of the Giants + Soul of the Storm Giant could be fun on a Tempest Domain Cleric.
I like Strike of the Giants (Storm) + Soul of the storm giant
I usually main the shadar-kai race (MPMM) and found the botrq can mitigate incoming damage for 2-3 turns. I usually play in westmarch settings and usually fill in as the frontline despite being a non-bruiser/bulky build and my goal usually becomes buying time for my teammates. Having the Strike of the giants to set a if statement can mitigate some damage after I've burned all my blessing of the raven queen uses.
On-hit with Strike of the Giants (Storm)
- if monster fails the save and has disadvantage on all their attack rolls and is attack-based, I'm a bit safe
- if they succeed the save, use Soul of the storm Giant to get dis against me anyway.
At level 5 I can spread these defensive mitigations over the course of 3-9 turns.
Yes, they didn't change Elemental Cleaver, you can give your hand crossbow the thrown property and use crossbow expert with it! I can't wait to create my thrown crossbow expert
Rune Shaper feat gives everybody access to the best defensive spell in the game (imho) - Armor of Agathys.
Every full or even half caster preparing for melee would love upcasting Armor of Agathys to break action economy with this 1 hour nonconcentration spell that heals and deals damage.🤔
Add Sanctuary for even more defensive layers.
I am interested.
Guile of the cloud giant also can potentially break up a multiattack, if the monster had to move to get in range of melee with you, the 30 feet teleport may cause it to not be able to use the rest of its attacks or make it switch to ranged attacks which are generally weaker.
Filled out the survey for play test six! Thanks for all your help breaking it down for us. Very helpful
The funny thing about the thrown weapon fighting style is that all you need to apply it is the weapon having the thrown property, it doesn't specify one-handed weapons. So if you're taking a fighter dip for action surge, thrown weapon fighting is probably a better damage increase than great weapon fighting.
I could see the Frost Strike or Hill Strike alongside their corresponding 4th level feats being interesting in some Paladin builds as anti-kiting mobility tools. The Frost option feels thematically appropriate for Conquest Paladins, and can act as an additional way of locking down an enemy's movement, especially those who are immune to Frighten effects. The Hill Strike also works well mechanically with Conquest for the prone trap strategy (Frighten an enemy, reducing their speed to 0, then knock them prone so they can't stand up), but the Bulwark ability from Vigor of the Hill Giant also feels like it fits well with the MOTM Earth Genasi. It gives them a sense of inevitability as Earth Genasi can ignore difficult terrain and Bulwark allows them to negate push and prone abilities.
In my opinion, the weakness of the Barbarian large size ability has when compared to the comparable Rune Knight ability is its connection to Barbarian. Not that I think Barbarians are bad, or that this particular Barbarian subclass is bad, but one of the really fun and popular Rune Knight builds involves Duergar, since it allows them to use Giant's Might to grow to Large, then use their racial casting of Enlarge/Reduce to make themselves Huge at level 3 (and Gargantuan at level 18). Giant Barbarians can't do this without the aid of another player, since Rage prevents them from being able to cast or concentrate on spells.
I’m really surprised they let the Giant Barbarian get a non- once per turn damage boost. When I saw that in the playtest I was sure they’d nerf it, they never give Barbarian good things.
If I understand the 6th level feature correctly you can do, Thor's hammer throw every time you attack while raging.
Basically you throw your weapon twice per attack & you change out the bonus damage on a bonus action(balancing reasons)
It's actually pretty powerful.
A multiclass with 11 fighter levels for 3 attacks would be intresting higher tier build, but a pure class barbarian could do that Thor thing with just unlimited rages.
Although not RAI, the wording of the 14th level feature would cause cumulative reach increases every time you rage, and you could permanently remain Huge.
14th Level Feature:
"When you rage, your reach increases by 10 feet, your size can increase to Large or Huge (your choice)..."
Compared to the wording of the 3rd Level Feature:
"While raging, you gain the following benefits..."
Yeah that's obviously not what this feature is supposed to do. Otherwise you would increase your reach each time you rage by 10 feet until you had arms like Mr. Fantastic.
When you say you wouldn't pick those feats unless they were provided by the background. I agree, but that's only because these are intended to be half feats when taken for a full ASI.
The same is true of the dragonlance feats. The 'starter' feats are generally half feat power, but without the half ASI. When one of my players wanted to take the squire feat chain recently in a non-dragonlance campaign recently, I allowed the Squire of Solamnia Feat as a Half feat (all the others in the feat chain are similar power level and are half feats after all).
I wish they had clarified that these feats 'when taken after level 1' get an extra +1 ASI.
Oh where does it state that? Thats eye opening and supports both feats greatly!
the giant feats having scaling damage of 1dX + profmod is not enough.
2dX, anytime your proficiency bonus increases, (5, 9, 13, 17), the damage increases by +1dX
Hill giant strike combined with net to restrain and prone them all in one.
@13:42~~ _turns into a thrown weapon, ranges 20 to 60 feets, & will return up to 20 feet into your hand_ That's a fun, minor curse for a hedgewitch.
I find it so strange that we don't get additional runes or battlemaster tactics in any supplements. Like we get spells all the time, surely it's not insane to add a few more toys to other toyboxes.
Tasha's added more maneuvers. Been a couple years though.
Oh wow, my bad! I'm going to hide behind the digital drop down landscape for why I didn't notice that the list had grown. Glad there is precedent then, though perhaps going to be a while longer considering the current development priority@@life-destiny1196
Remember when 5e was planning not to have feat taxes? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
I think the real question for people is who thinks these options are supposed to be balanced with 5e options or 6e ones?
If you can use improvised weapons as thrown weapons then you could maybe do some more shenanigans ( I pick up my rouge with a ready action attack and throw him at the bbeg, when he hits the target he also uses his ready action to sneak attack the bbeg, then he immediately returns safely to my hand. )
The reach bonuses are interesting. I wonder how they're going to interact with Bugbear. Though a Kobold growing to dragon size would be pretty neat.
For Bugbear it would stack
I feel like the storm giant feat is tailored specifically with storm barbarian, storm sorcerer, and tempest cleric in mind, because it does seem like it would work well with those
Minor quibble: I would rule that Mighty Impel is not a melee weapon attack and therefore would not benefit from using a reach weapon.
Correct when you look at the reach property for weapons, it specifies your reach being extended for when you attack, or your reach for opportunity attacks. As you say it’s a saving throw for an unwilling creature not a form of attack roll.
The rock throw feat is situational, but decent for knocking flying creatures(without hover) out of the air.
I like that most of these options are sensible for multiclassing or adding on a Rune Knight as well...
Funny thing about the barbarian always having let down 10th level features, whenever I am making a homebrew barbarian I always have the 10th level feature be the weakest in the kit.
10(polearm)+5(bugbear)+10(14th level feature) = 25 feet of reach, your arms become farther than you can throw at the end of this subclass lmao. Imagine the sheer power of PAM or sentinel with this.
Lol my thoughts exactly whenever I see features that increase reach: "So you're telling to pick Bugbear PAM right?"
I think in the 2024 PHB, the 3rd-level feature should allow reckless attack to apply to thrown weapon attacks.
It will as long as they're made with melee weapons 😁(no dart)
This means that if you are a Bugbear, path of giant barbarian with a reach weapon, you have a melee reach of 20ft, and at that rate, you don’t need thrown weapons
Observation on Elemental Cleaver:
The ability doesn't state it has to be a melee weapon, so technically, you can add this ability to a hand crossbow, stacking some additional damage on to it for a crossbow expert build (and also giving it the Thrown property, which... might have some niche use? I don't see what it is yet, but it's in there somewhere).
You could also use this to increase the range on a net (until the new addition is released, when nets stop being weapons). Not that a tiny piece of tech for nets is going to push them into the Tier1 weapon category, but it's a nice piece of tech.
Importantly, this doesn't specify "simple or martial weapon", it's any weapon. So, this technically applies to Natural Weapons, Improvised Weapons and Seige Weapons (and Unarmed Strikes? Citation Needed). A Tabaxi can throw their claws sixty feet. You can launch an actual seige tower at your opponents. You... can change the damage type of your dragonborn breath weapon maybe (Citation Needed)?
No size limiter for stone throw, so a character can knock a a gargantuan dragon out of the sky with their Little Rock 😂
It's also worth noting with Elemental Cleaver that it's ALL attacks you make with the weapon that get the d6 bonus damage, meaning that Giant Barbarians are even more reliant on Polearm Master than all the other Barbarians. I really hate the requirement martial characters have of feats to even make them playable, and in this case to even take the best advantage of your class features. If it weren't a single weapon you were holding that got the bonus, but any weapon you were holding, at least you could maybe try out dual wielding on giant barbarian, but instead you're forced even more into using a Polearm. It's super frustrating to me.
I don't feel forced to take PAM or GWM to be effective as a barbarian or fighter. I played a psi warrior and didn't take either and felt all my abilities let me be effective in more roles. I don't plan to take either with my path of the giant barbarian,, although that might change.
Let's not miss the real gem here, the way the level 4 Stone Giant feat is worded we can get to 360ft of darkvision on a Twilight Cleric. The power gaming is real.
Or 180 ft magical-piercing Darkvision on a Warlock with Devil's Sight, I think.
If I am reading Mighty Impel right, as a bonus action you could throw an enemy 30ft up in the air dealing 3d6 fall damage and making them prone if they fail a Str save. And you can do this every turn?
Now milage may very as ceilings get in the way and its restricted to Medium or smaller, but that seems like a really good bonus action option.
The Barbarian still makes me grumpy. I firmly believe they should have made the returning weapon benefit the level 3 feature with growing large. Then level 6 should have been the increased reach and the damage bonus. If you want to be a thrown weapon Barbarian, the idea of having to wait to level 6 before you’re not carrying a bunch of weapons is poor design. It can take months or a year to get to level 6 in some campaigns.
Soul of the storm giant is basically dodge with extra stuff, i get it its limited uses but still a very good use of your bonus action while available, what am i missing?
2-6 bonus action dodges a day is kinda underwhelming compared to Elven Accuracy or Resilient, two other half-feats, especially when this is not really a half feat, it's a 1.5 feat cost.
I feel if they had added that you could reckless attack with thrown weapons, it would have made this feel a bit better. It would have allowed you to really be a thrown weapon user and melee user, giving you an excellent skirmisher style of subclass. This is still awesome and I want to play it, but it would have been nice.
I was just looking at these options last night. Found the feats underwhelming. I was excited about strike of the giants until I got to the end... I thought it was decently strong until then.
A single level infighter gets you thrown weapon, fighting for more damage, and two levels in artificer gets you magical throne weapons.
This seems like it would be an excellent 10 level Barbarian/10 level fighter build
Totally gonna multiclass a path of giant with a rune knight, sure the 3rd level features are a bit redundant but its thematically appropriate to do both
I'm just happy that my Hulk build doesn't need to multiclass or require two rounds to rage AND grow. Yeah, I'm simple like that.
Strike of the Giants : cloud Strike or Hill Strike could be really good with the standard pole arm master sentinel combo.
Hey Treantmonk! Curious if you’re planning on doing any Baldurs Gate 3 content?
Love the vid!
I can't believe they made it so Rune Knights can't get the Rune Shaper feat
And NEITHER any of the other feats, unless you start the character over from scratch and change their background. IMO none of them needed the requirements. Instead of making sense, they're pointless restriction
I may try and implement some of these into my Superman build. Ooo, good times!
I’m absolutely taking these feats on my goliath rune knight in tier 3. There are so few half feats with constitution for fighters. I’m bummed I can only take one of the half feats.
We finally got a feature that lets a tempest cleric deal lightning damage to turn on thunderbolt strike
...aaaand its on a barbarian and only works while raging. Nope.
I had no knowledge of this book's existence 😂
I kind of disagree with your take on the Storm Giant options. For the benefit of mitigating damage through inflicting disadvantage to attack rolls, I think the Storm Giant options (in both the 1st Level and 4th level feats) are good. Ideally, this benefit can make a tank better should they be able to draw attacks to them while lessening the chances of inflicting damage at all.
Sure, I agree that the damage resistance could have been done better - maybe Soul of the Storm Giant can permanently grant Thunder Resistance, and then grant Lightning Resistance with an expended use. I also agree that for Levels 1-3, sticking with just the 1st-Level feat does not grant enough uses or effectiveness for the effects provided. I also think that for the small number of uses and the usual Once Per Turn limitation, the 1st-Level effects should not need Saving Throws for their additional effects.
However, I think as a reminder, the benefits for the Soul of the Storm Giant feat add on top of the Strike of the Giants (Lightning) feat. There is no way to benefit from that 4th-level feat independently from the 1st-level counterpart, and both options grant opportunities to inflict disadvantage on attack rolls to mitigate damage - basically half of the Dodge Action, either possibly for free on one target with a hit and a failed save, or as a Bonus Action on hordes with no save, optimally.
Since you are given options to apply that debuff between both feats, for the Storm Giant options, I feel the number of overall uses makes the package of options work. You get PB number of uses for Disadvantage to attack rolls on the 1st-level feat, and the same application of disadvantage on the 4th-level feat for the same number of uses, not shared. After Level 4, you technically get twice your Proficiency Bonus to apply a solid debuff on enemies. That's of course when you get both feats.
I'm speaking as a person who played a Level 6 character with both feats, so I felt like I had enough uses to last me through a few combats and apply that Disadvantage. I think they are a good package of feats together.
Who's gonna play a pair of brothers that get big? The smart barbarian and the brawny fighter.
Would love to see a Giant build from treantmonk now, been awhile since we have a had a character build
I am wondering why everyone calculates the falling damage as 3d6. As a large (bipedal) creature, you should be at least 10' tall. 30 feet from you would be 40' for 4d6 damage, not 30' from the ground. As huge, add another 10' to that.
What am I missing?
Cloud Giant feat is good.
You get 2 Misty Steps as a reaction? At level 4 you only have 3 castings of Misty Step and you never have more than three. By level 5 you've doubled the amount of times you can cast Misty Step which is probably a top 10 spell for its level. Will you need more than 3 Misty steps? Probably not unless youre a gish. Which means maybe a wizard doesn't even learn
Plus 3 castings of an altered Absorb Elements. do you take hits from attacks or hits from energy types more? Likely attacks which makes it better than Absorb Elements IMO. So now you don't need that spell either!
This is great for a melee cleric which doesnt have either of those spells or Swords Bard who wants a charisma half feat. Paladins and Hexblade Warlocks will like it as well.
I have a question that I'm having trouble answering. The Rune Shaper feat tells you that "You temporarily learn the 1st-level spells that correspond to the runes you inscribed, as specified on the Rune Spells table, and you know those spells until you finish a long rest, when the runes fade. " Does it mean that the spells you know by this feat are already prepared (like extra prepared spells) or that are only added to your spells list? and if i do not have them prepared can i still us them with the invoke action?
i will be really glad and thankful if somebody could answer
I'm playing in a lvl 16 one shot in a few weeks. I usually play the party wizard. Figured I'd change things up and play a professional wrestler. This subclass could not have come out at a better time.
How did it go?
The Rune Shaper feats spell selection seems kinda bad. Armor of Agathys is a nice pickup if your building an abjurer, but other then that I have no idea why I'd take that feat.
I don't understand why WOTC not marked the Rune Shaper feat and the Strike of the Giants feat as 1st level feats too, is like they are not even trying to promote their new product OneDnD
Thanks Chris
Can I get you to weigh in on whether or not a large-sized PC can use a weapon from a large-sized stat block? Getting your hands on a minoraur"s greataxe would seem like a huge, unintended damage boost for a subclass like this.
Thank you for your information video
Did I see right that you get to add that extra damage to every attack? Not just once per a turn?
If so that'll be very strong with Polearm Master
I was wondering the same thing. Very strong if accurate.
@@chrisg8989 kinda refreshing
Wish WotC was more liberal with this kinda thing for other classes
Would the falling damage from throwing an enemy up in the air be 4d6 since you are large when raging? So 30ft from you would mean that they are thrown 30ft above yourself which are 10ft tall resulting in the enemy being 40ft above ground.
Strike of giants woulda been cool if you could just use it even a few more times, not even infinite but if it was at least PB+1 or half your level or something...
Isn't crushing weapon going to be replicated in the new barbarian rage rules wait Treantmonk is saying that right now as I'm typing lol
When you said “Keeness of the stone giant “ I thought you said P*nis of the stone giants and I had to do a double take… I wonder what a feat of that name would do…
Hi Chris, the artwork looks mad at the reader, like the artist cant stop eating xanax.
How does elemental cleaver work with, say, heavy crossbows? They have a range already. Can I yeet a heavy crossbow 100 feet?
Stupid Question but if you multiclass rune knight and path if the giant do you become even bigger or is it worth nothing
Love the channel. Missing your creative builds. Can you balance new rules analysis with some more builds
For demiurgic colossus, your reach goes to 15 ft, not 10ft.
Question: do you need a free hand to use mighty impel? I'd think this would be a little worse if I had to drop/pickup my weapon or shield to do this.
Just flavour it as you playing golf with the enemy as your ball.
'it automatically returns to your hand' ...why? That's not really a thing Giants are known for. Why does it take till level 10 to be able to pick up and throw something/one?
Mechanically and thematically those feats feel like something that you can find in PHB, it so weird that we got them 10 years later. Also it is a shame that you limited to single 4th+ level feat.
The Rune Shaper feat might combine with Rune Knight really well. Rune Shaper says; "While you are wearing or carrying any rune-marked object, you can cast the spells associated with those runes using any spell slots you have.
You can also invoke a rune inscribed on an object you are wearing or carrying and cast its associated spell without expending a spell slot or using material components."
The runes with the Rune Carver ability with the Rune Knight says, "While wearing or carrying an object inscribed with this rune, "
Does this mean that if you get the Rune Carver background and select the fire rune and then get to 3rd level Rune Knight and get the cloud and stone rune, do you then get comprehend language, fog cloud, burning hand and sanctuary that you can cast once a long rest and all three abilities from Rune Knight.
Great barbarian Subclass, overall still not class I want to play XD, but I would consider doing a one shot if it was level 10 or up
That's all we got? Books like this are why I'm team backwards compatible, if they start fresh we are gonna have PHB and then like 3-4 new subclasses per year, that's gonna mean likely some classes will have 0 new subclasses for upwards of 3 years from PHB 2024. Where's the fun in that? The dragonlance book should have had a dragon themed subclass for every class and the giants book should have had a giant themed subclass for every class. Feats are always welcome but if we were getting books jam packed with more player options I'd be fine with a 6e but I see no signs they are gonna increase the rate of release for player options, they have become too timid about "balance"
I’m surprised that Fury of the Frost Giant wasn’t given a 8th level prerequisite as I’ve seen them treat Cold resistance as a rarer magic item effect than fire resistance.
Draconic sorcerers can choose it at character creation. Why wouldn't fire resist be the higher tier option considering it has so many use cases compared to less effective "rarer" magic? I can see why cold is considered a higher tier offensively for items that a player is intended to use because it is a less resisted damage type compared to fire, but defensively cold is less valuable and setting dependent because few creatures deal cold.
@@zenithmaiden2109 the only response I’ve gotten is that because it’s rarer to experience cold damage it’s considered more valuable because fire resistance is a dime a dozen.
I have a question about Giant Stature. The way I read it, you become Large size when you rage, and this is not optional. So in tight spaces you have to deal with squeezing rules, and if the space is small enough (such as the example art's halfling barbarian in a small space), wouldn't it be impossible for that halfling to rage?
In a similar vein, what does the level 14 feature actually mean? Do you get the choice between large or huge, or can you also choose to remain your original size?
If you don't have room to grow, you don't grow. It doesn't stop you from raging, and still gain the other benefits.
the first part at least is quite literally answered by reading the last sentence in the feature description.
"If there isn't enough room for you to increase your size, your size does not change."
@cinderblocksally brought me here. He says hi
Why are there 19 prerequisites to these feats smh. This is still 5e wizards of the coast
I'm kind of disappointed in rune carver. It fell way short of the mental picture I had for it.
I can't help but be disappointed by the feats in this book. Sure, a lot of the half feats are fine, but they aren't really half feats because of that prerequisite. You're having to pick up another feat to get them, and strike of the giants isn't good enough alone. You're taking a feat and a half for what feels like 2 half feats in power.
they kept the extra d6 damage on all attacks? totally expected it to get nerfed cause WOTC hates martials
7:35 Its not common to go for a build that maxes out darkvision distance, but it seems to me that Keenness of the Stone Giant would be a must have in that particular scenario. If you are playing a Drow Gloomstalker with 150 ft darkvision, and you stir through the night wishing you had 210 ft darkvision, then this feat would be a must have. And before anyone says it: TWILIGHT CLERICS ARE NOT REAL (to me).
Looks like they gave up on the druid and wizard subclasses from the same ua.
Does elemental cleaver never turn off properly?
It says it turns on when you start the rage, it says the extra damage requires you to rage, as does adding the thrown property. It then says whenever you throw an infused weapon it returns to your hand. It says the infusion is suppressed when another creature uses it.
I think if you were to infuse a thrown weapon, it would always return to your hand, despite rage.