The Orthodox Church's Cold War over Ukraine
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Who has the final say over the Orthodox Church jurisdiction in Ukraine? Is it the Russian Orthodox Church? Or is the Orthodox Church in Ukraine truly independent now? This is the question that’s led to schism and infighting, and a war in Ukraine isn’t going to make things any less tense.
As an Orthodox Christian, I greatly appreciate this video. Thank you for providing a neutral overview that is respectful to the sensitives of all parties involved.
I am convinced that most people who call themselves know religion instead of Jesus Christ. Or they have created their own God in their head. That is why we must make sure that we know the God of the bible and know that we are truly saved.
Lay religion, Christian culture, and even politics aside. Someone who truly loves you is reaching out to you not willing that you should perish (2 Peter3), but that you be saved from the price of your sins.
With that said, how do you deal with your sin? Yes you. How many times have you lied, lusted, or stolen? I'm guilty, what about you? I hope you feel convicted.
But if you're going to reject the free gift of salvation, you ought to think about where you are going after death.
Is this your mindset?
Luke 12:19
Please please do not be this person that Jesus described here. I don't care how if you are in a ministry or even behind a pulpit. And their is no shame in getting saved.
Matthew 7
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
You see there will be professing Christians that were not actually saved.
I want to help you.
Matthew 18:3
"And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven."
Because of God's holiness we cannot be in his presence as we are in our sin. No matter how righteous one may appear everyone has sinned and one sin can lead to hell, but there is a way out. We don't deserve it but God made a way that we may become the righteousness of God (Romans 5). I want you to have 100% assurance of salvation.
Romans 3:23 - For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 14
6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Romans 6
23For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
1 John 1:9 - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Corinthians 15:
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Romans 10
9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13For WHOSOEVER shall CALL upon the name of the Lord shall be SAVED.
Here is the gospel straight and simple:
1. Truly acknowledge that you have sinned against a perfect God and you are worthy of hell that can only be saved by the blood of Jesus Christ
2. Believe that Jesus died for and covered all of your sins and rose again.
3. Say to God that Jesus Christ he is your saviour.
Please let me know. I am praying for you, today is the day of salvation.
2 Corinthians 5:17
“Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.”
@@pianoplayer2260 Thank God you arn't telling people to repeat the sinners prayer :)
2022 APRIL PUTIN'S WAR in UKRAINE
PATRIARCH KIRILL of Moscow is UNWORTHY to be a PRIEST! ! ! ! ! !
KIRILL has chosen the Camp of Infamy, of Horror, of the inhuman...
that of "the Holy War" of his friend PUTIN!
KIRILL: No mercy, no charity for the thousands of civilian victims, nothing Christian and nothing human PATRIARCH KIRILL, Primate of the ORTHODOX CHURCH of RUSSIA lies to 100 million Russian faithful about the True reality of the invasion in Ukraine
He repeats the same lies as his friend Putin!
PATRIARCH KIRILL of Moscow is UNWORTHY to be a PRIEST
KIRILL is a SHAME for ALL CHRISTIANITY!
HE must be tried as an accomplice in the WAR crimes of HIS FRIEND Putin
In 39/45 it was necessary to choose its camp: that of Hitler and Stalin or... the Camp of Freedom and Democracy.
Today everyone must choose their side again:
Either Putin's Stalinist "Concentration Camp"
be the CAMP of FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY!
KIRILL is a SHAME to all of Christianity
HE MUST GO, on his knees, asking forgiveness from God
but above all forgiveness from men! ! ! !
KIRILL shows off in his beautiful biblical beard but...
“Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing,
but within they are ravenous wolves. »
These words of Jesus remain relevant today.
The Apostle Paul gave us two signs to look for... when watching out for the coming false churches.
1. Forbidding marriage.
(Catholic)
2. Requiring abstinence from food.
(Orthodox)
1 Timothy 4:1-5 ESV -
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, 3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.
Ucraine new power is nazi, installt 2014. USA support fascism and radikal islamism against Russia, and same way, against Serbia. Because we Serbs hate more USA an nazi and pro-west islamists. Truth have no price.
Can we just all appreciate the ministry of this channel. As always, unbiased, very thorough, accurate and always done with excellence. Sure I don’t agree with some denominations views but it’s great to learn about different denominations and their theology. Thank you sir for what you do. It’s unique and definitely a ministry
As a relatively new believer (only 1.5 years since my baptism), I find this channel exhilarating. I thrive on the input of many, many ideas to form my beliefs, and Joshua’s objectivity has given me unbiased ideas with which to engage.
I learn so much from this channel!!!!
Las iglesias católica no son denominaciones son las iglesias establecidas por los apóstoles y sus discípulos. Están en la Biblia son las herederas de las iglesias de roma, Macedonia, Antioquia, Cypriots y Caledonia hoy en Grecia 🇬🇷 siria y Egipto. La paz se con ustedes
@@borisvandruff7532 I will subscribe to this channel.
The Catholics and orthodox churches are no denominations are the heirs of the Macedonia 🇲🇰 Roman and Antioch churches.
I'm Antiochian Orthodox and I am very pleased and impressed with this fair and balanced explanation. Well done!
Thanks Alex!
@@ReadyToHarvest Debunking catholicism
I'm more blessed than mary
Proof = Luke 11:27-28
27 And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!”
28 But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”
In Luke 11:27 that random woman LITERALLY said Jesus your mother is Blessed, but are Lord Jesus LITERALLY said Believers are more Blessed than mary. Amen and Amen
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CHRIST alone
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
ACTS 4:12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
There is only One Mediator between God and men, LORD Jesus Christ= 1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus.
Hebrew 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
Hebrew 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.
Hebrew 8:6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.
Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by One Spirit to the Father
John 15:5
5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
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Work of God =
John 6:28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”
29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
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1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach
Paul allows bishops to get marry, but catholic church goes against paul.
Now these catholic will give a Verses from 1 Corinthians7 to say that paul gave the advice to stay unmarried. But they will not tell you that the same chapter they quote says 1 Corinthians 7:28 "even if you do marry, you have not SINNED". The passage literally says "young women, young men" and a bishop is supposed to be a Church ELDER. Mic drop
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Jesus said Matthew 23:9
9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
And also said Holy Father to Heavenly Father= John 17:11
11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are.
Jesus said call no one Father but still catholics call *pope holy father.
Sad
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Whenever a catholic argue about mary being the mother of God
Use this to defeat the argument.
Luke 8:21 But He answered and said to them, “My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it.”
Matthew 12:46-50
46 While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. 47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.”
48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”.
Mark 3:35 For whoever does the will of God is My brother and My sister and mother.”
John 19:26-27
26 When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home. ( Jesus basically said John is the son of mary, and mary is the mother of John from that time onwards).
By the way sarah is the mother of all proof=Galatians 4:21-26.
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We should not pray to apostles
Romans 1:25
25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Acts 10:25-26
25 As Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him. 26 But Peter lifted him up, saying, “Stand up; I myself am also a man.”
Acts 14:15
15 and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men with the same nature as you, and preach to you that you should turn from these useless things to the living God, who made the heaven, the earth, the sea, and all things that are in them,
Revelation 19:10
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”
Revelation 22:8-9
8 Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things.
9 Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God."
Colossians 2:18
18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
You cannot go to Father through saints nor mary, you can only go to the Father through Lord Jesus Christ= John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.
Holy Spirit intercedes for us=Romans 8:26
26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
And CHRIST as well=Romans 8:34
34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.
Hebrews 7:25
25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
It's Christ and Holy Spirit who intercedes for us not apostles
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Apostles are allowed to marry,
1 Corinthians 9:1-5
1 Am I not an apostle? Am I not free? Have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord? 2 If I am not an apostle to others, yet doubtless I am to you. For you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord.
3 My defense to those who examine me is this: 4 Do we have no right to eat and drink? 5 Do we have no right to take along a believing wife, as do also the other apostles, the brothers of the Lord, and Cephas?
If Peter (peter is cephas read John 1:42) the so called "first pope" was married, why does the catholic church doesn't allow "pope" to marry?
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The so called vicar of christ/ pope/holy father Peter called himself a fellow elder in 1 Peter 5:1, and as per the qualifications of elder in Titus 1:5-9 the elder is allowed to get married; then why does the "pope" is required to be celibate and catholic? ( when Peter was neither celibate nor catholic).
1)Peter was not perfect human nor was he a perfect disciple
2)He sank down while walking on water
3)Our Lord said to peter get behind me satan
4)Peter reject our Lord 3 times
5)Our Lord rebuked Peter for calling fire from heaven
6)Our Lord rebuked Peter when he cut of the soilders ear
7)Paul rebuked Peter for being hypocrite because he was acting different in front of Jews and different in front of gentiles.
8) Moses messed up, and he was a important part of Bible ( that's why he never entered the promised land),
9)David messed up ( and he has the Holy Spirit),
10)King Soloman messed up,
11) Saul messed up and God regretted the decision (1 Samuel 15:10-11).
Hatrick (Saul then David then Soloman back to back messed up)
12)The apostles run away a day before Lord Jesus got locked up.
13)The early church messed up Rev 2:18-20, 1 Corinthians, Galatians.
14) Apostle John when receiving Revelation worshiped an angel and the angel said "see you do not do that. Worship GOD" Revelation 22:8-9
If these great people could mess up, why do you think the catholic church wouldn't mess up.
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Galatians 4:21-26
21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24 which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar- 25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children- 26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Sarah is mother of all, Not mary
Also the Church has many name like Christians, Evangelists, Children of God, Believers, servents of God, bride of Christ, but not once the Church is called catholics
Changed the 10 commandments by deleting 2nd commandment, and dividing the 10th into 2 commandments. Also changing the real Saturday Sabbath to fake sunday sabbath.
@@mynameis......23 looks like a dumb orthodox pagan......
@@mynameis......23bro, no one is reading your long ass comment
@@mynameis......23👁👄👁
Yes, this is probably the best unbiased video on the subject that is clear and direct. I say this as an Eastern Orthodox Christian. Well done.
Thank you David!
@@ReadyToHarvest Debunking catholicism
I'm more blessed than mary
Proof = Luke 11:27-28
27 And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!”
28 But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”
In Luke 11:27 that random woman LITERALLY said Jesus your mother is Blessed, but are Lord Jesus LITERALLY said Believers are more Blessed than mary. Amen and Amen
_________________________
CHRIST alone
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
ACTS 4:12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
There is only One Mediator between God and men, LORD Jesus Christ= 1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus.
Hebrew 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
Hebrew 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.
Hebrew 8:6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.
Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by One Spirit to the Father
John 15:5
5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
_________________________
Work of God =
John 6:28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”
29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
_________________________
1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach
Paul allows bishops to get marry, but catholic church goes against paul.
Now these catholic will give a Verses from 1 Corinthians7 to say that paul gave the advice to stay unmarried. But they will not tell you that the same chapter they quote says 1 Corinthians 7:28 "even if you do marry, you have not SINNED". The passage literally says "young women, young men" and a bishop is supposed to be a Church ELDER. Mic drop
_________________________
Jesus said Matthew 23:9
9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
And also said Holy Father to Heavenly Father= John 17:11
11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are.
Jesus said call no one Father but still catholics call *pope holy father.
Sad
_________________________
Whenever a catholic argue about mary being the mother of God
Use this to defeat the argument.
Luke 8:21 But He answered and said to them, “My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it.”
Matthew 12:46-50
46 While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. 47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.”
48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”.
Mark 3:35 For whoever does the will of God is My brother and My sister and mother.”
John 19:26-27
26 When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home. ( Jesus basically said John is the son of mary, and mary is the mother of John from that time onwards).
By the way sarah is the mother of all proof=Galatians 4:21-26.
_________________________
We should not pray to apostles
Romans 1:25
25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Acts 10:25-26
25 As Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him. 26 But Peter lifted him up, saying, “Stand up; I myself am also a man.”
Acts 14:15
15 and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men with the same nature as you, and preach to you that you should turn from these useless things to the living God, who made the heaven, the earth, the sea, and all things that are in them,
Revelation 19:10
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”
Revelation 22:8-9
8 Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things.
9 Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God."
Colossians 2:18
18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
You cannot go to Father through saints nor mary, you can only go to the Father through Lord Jesus Christ= John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.
Holy Spirit intercedes for us=Romans 8:26
26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
And CHRIST as well=Romans 8:34
34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.
Hebrews 7:25
25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
It's Christ and Holy Spirit who intercedes for us not apostles
_________________________
Apostles are allowed to marry,
1 Corinthians 9:1-5
1 Am I not an apostle? Am I not free? Have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord? 2 If I am not an apostle to others, yet doubtless I am to you. For you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord.
3 My defense to those who examine me is this: 4 Do we have no right to eat and drink? 5 Do we have no right to take along a believing wife, as do also the other apostles, the brothers of the Lord, and Cephas?
If Peter (peter is cephas read John 1:42) the so called "first pope" was married, why does the catholic church doesn't allow "pope" to marry?
_________________________
The so called vicar of christ/ pope/holy father Peter called himself a fellow elder in 1 Peter 5:1, and as per the qualifications of elder in Titus 1:5-9 the elder is allowed to get married; then why does the "pope" is required to be celibate and catholic? ( when Peter was neither celibate nor catholic).
1)Peter was not perfect human nor was he a perfect disciple
2)He sank down while walking on water
3)Our Lord said to peter get behind me satan
4)Peter reject our Lord 3 times
5)Our Lord rebuked Peter for calling fire from heaven
6)Our Lord rebuked Peter when he cut of the soilders ear
7)Paul rebuked Peter for being hypocrite because he was acting different in front of Jews and different in front of gentiles.
8) Moses messed up, and he was a important part of Bible ( that's why he never entered the promised land),
9)David messed up ( and he has the Holy Spirit),
10)King Soloman messed up,
11) Saul messed up and God regretted the decision (1 Samuel 15:10-11).
Hatrick (Saul then David then Soloman back to back messed up)
12)The apostles run away a day before Lord Jesus got locked up.
13)The early church messed up Rev 2:18-20, 1 Corinthians, Galatians.
14) Apostle John when receiving Revelation worshiped an angel and the angel said "see you do not do that. Worship GOD" Revelation 22:8-9
If these great people could mess up, why do you think the catholic church wouldn't mess up.
_
Galatians 4:21-26
21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24 which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar- 25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children- 26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Sarah is mother of all, Not mary
Also the Church has many name like Christians, Evangelists, Children of God, Believers, servents of God, bride of Christ, but not once the Church is called catholics
Changed the 10 commandments by deleting 2nd commandment, and dividing the 10th into 2 commandments. Also changing the real Saturday Sabbath to fake sunday sabbath.
@@mynameis......23 Wow! Good job man. Happy Thanksgiving!
Except he left out the uncontestable fact that Moscow gained its domination over Kyiv through simony and brutally Russified the Ukrainian church, destroying its culture and traditions for imperial ambition.
Only Orthodox* bro
I’m a Romanian Orthodox whilst I’m very upset that there is war between Russia and Ukraine but at the same time we do also have a jurisdictional dispute with the Russian Orthodox Church over the Republic of Moldova
Here's a possibility....the Russian Orthodox is directly under Vladimir Putin. Its because the Russian church is just a branch of government, like the military. Also the head Patriarch was and still is friends with Putin. That also explains why the ROC supports the war in Ukraine.
Our patriarch didn't recognize the Orthodox church of Ukraine out of any religious beliefs or any political benefits for Moldova. I'm ashamed and disappointed we favor nepotism over humility...
Two churches coexist in Moldova. Parishioners themselves choose which church to go to. The majority chooses the church of the Moscow Patriarchate. Are you against it?
@@Tiverovich "political benefits" as in cultural and governmental, geopolitical. I never intended to refer for Moldova in the religious/church aspect.
The Moldavian republic issue can be solved easy. Stop giving tgem unconditional aid and right to come to Romania and in 2 years tops they will accept to be part of Romania. There might be a small region next to Ukraine that will not but most will
Thanks for the video, a great summary of what was the biggest issue in the Orthodox Church up to the moment. Perhaps the fratricidal war between Orthodox brothers is a bigger issue now, so it's going to be a big question what happens to these Churches and to their faithful.
The Apostle Paul gave us two signs to look for... when watching out for the coming false churches.
1. Forbidding marriage.
(Catholic)
2. Requiring abstinence from food.
(Orthodox)
1 Timothy 4:1-5 ESV -
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, 3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.
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And literally no one in our government or media have even mentioned this aspect of the conflict.
Christians are not allowed to be the victim… at least not in western media.
Because the West (specifically the US State Department) was involved with and actively supported the schism (supporting Constantinople in order to weaken and destabilize Russian influence in the region).
@@SWillTiamG Russian Christians claimed to be afriad of "gay parades" so they're pro-war. Yeah, good thing I'm atheist.
That is because of caesaropapism in the orthodox church(the russian part specifically nowadays),the church is subservient under the authority of the state.
@@mikhaelgribkov4117 what does that have to do with the video or my comment? I’m talking about the Church In Ukraine not Russia
As a non-Christian, I love the level-handedness of your approach to such a complex and tense situation. Bravo!
Im Orthodox and this presentation was factual and unbiased, appreciated.
I’m a Catholic and I’m impressed by how impartial and well researched this was. Kudos!
He's the Associated Press & Reuters of religious news.
Catholic as in , belonging to the church of satan , as your pope has said ?
@@tenchu65 Shush, the adults are talking
Jesus against the Traditions of Pharisees (Jews, Catholic, Orthodox) that still exists as until today. They created traditions Law that OUTSIDE of the Bible that become burden for their followers.
*Because Jesus only follow the 10 commandments (Exodus 20), they trying hard so many times to kill Jesus.
*Mark 12:7 - render to Caesar and also to God.*
The Pope is trying to united the whole world under One religion:
Pagan Catholic in disguise.
@@adolphweber9005 You have men made traditions on one side and the Apostolic tradition the church follows on another. Your Bible canon emerged from a council organized by the Catholic Apostolic Church (Catholic and Orthodoxes). That council was held at Rome in 382 gave a complete list of the canonical books of both the Old Testament and the New Testament. What does Jesus thinks about that tradition? I think you should simply accept the fact that Jesus created the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
I’m under OCA and this is probably the best I’ve ever heard this explained
I am OCA also. EVERYTHING on this channel is presented in an unbiased format. Even Chief Columbo would agree that "...the facts ma'am, just the fact" are always presented. If you want to be really impressed check his comparison of Eastern Orthodoxy and Oriental Orthodoxy. I was blown away! I am not an expert but I am fairly familiar with the Oriental Orthodox. His comparison is a tour de force! (My OCA parish of Saint Justin Martyr in Jacksonville Florida, has close relations with Saint Demiana's Oriental Orthodox Church also in Jacksonville).
@@philmattox8500 Glad to hear you agree and I look forward to watching the comparison you suggested! God bless
Yeah, he did his research.
2022 APRIL PUTIN'S WAR in UKRAINE
PATRIARCH KIRILL of Moscow is UNWORTHY to be a PRIEST! ! ! ! ! !
KIRILL has chosen the Camp of Infamy, of Horror, of the inhuman...
that of "the Holy War" of his friend PUTIN!
KIRILL: No mercy, no charity for the thousands of civilian victims, nothing Christian and nothing human PATRIARCH KIRILL, Primate of the ORTHODOX CHURCH of RUSSIA lies to 100 million Russian faithful about the True reality of the invasion in Ukraine
He repeats the same lies as his friend Putin!
PATRIARCH KIRILL of Moscow is UNWORTHY to be a PRIEST
KIRILL is a SHAME for ALL CHRISTIANITY!
HE must be tried as an accomplice in the WAR crimes of HIS FRIEND Putin
In 39/45 it was necessary to choose its camp: that of Hitler and Stalin or... the Camp of Freedom and Democracy.
Today everyone must choose their side again:
Either Putin's Stalinist "Concentration Camp"
be the CAMP of FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY!
KIRILL is a SHAME to all of Christianity
HE MUST GO, on his knees, asking forgiveness from God
but above all forgiveness from men! ! ! !
KIRILL shows off in his beautiful biblical beard but...
“Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing,
but within they are ravenous wolves. »
These words of Jesus remain relevant today.
No brother. Very unfortunately it misunderstand key points of Orthodox ecclesiology.
I'm a traditional Anglo-Catholic and am acquainted with and appreciate a particular OCA congregation here in the USA. This was a helpful video that greatly assisted me in understanding current Orthodox ecclesiastical affairs in Ukraine. Our Rector steadily leads us in prayer for Ukraine in this extremely troubling period of conflict. LORD, have mercy on the people of Ukraine!
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LIKE WHY WOULD GOD BLESS A NAZI DEATH CULT CULTURE... UNBELIEVABLE
@@urosmarkovic9193 the first symbol is wrong
@@PUARockstar its not
@@urosmarkovic9193 it is. And russia is as far from Orthodox faith at is takes now.
Finally, a video dicussing this! I've been wanting to see a video explore this when it first happened! But also, did you know that the Kyiv Patriarchate's Filaret had a spat with the unifed Ukraine Church and left recreating the Kyiv Patriachate??? From 3 to 2 to back to 3 (with smaller numbs for him)
Very impressed with all this young man's videos, but an Orthodox Christian, I especially appreciate this informed and unbiased presentation, easy to digest despite the complexity of the subject.
This is a great video. I am a non-Orthodox Christian. I am married to a Ukrainian. These topics do interest me. Thank you.
A few updates:
● Denisenko left the OCU
● It was only the Patriarch of Alexandria that recognized the OCU, but because Alexandria is so centralized most must go along with it.
● The Greek and Cypriot Orthodox Churches have a mote decentralized structure and as such not all Greek and Cypriot hierarchs recognize the OCU.
● The MP considers Alexandria to have entered into schism.
I am protestant and excited to here from all my brothers and sisters in Christ. I pray for all of us. THE Holy Spirit is grieved, I'm sure as we in the church bicker and fight. Please let us all pray and follow the commands of Jesus Christ too,, love one another,,, love to everyone. Let us pray for peace.
Protestant is breakaway from church !!!
Good scholarship of a very complex history and messy current situation. Praying for our Ukrainian brothers and sisters!
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It truly is a tragedy.
The Russian Orthodox Church is no longer holy, unfortunately. Holy Rus and Russian World theology has no business in church theology.
@@markheithaus who are you to declare anathema
@@Aaryq holy wars. When Kirill declared what amounts to a Christian jihad.... yeah. Anyone who fights and dies in Ukraine for the Russian World will have their sins cleansed?
"We pray for the victory of Holy Rus" instituted as a required prayer in ROC masses? ( Holy Rus covers Ukraine by the way). Meanwhile priests who refuse to utter that part and pray for peace instead are routinely defrocked. Nearly 500 Russian Orthodox priests have either been arrested or defrocked and forced into exile in another church outside of Russia (other churches are accepting them).
-- Look, it breaks my heart, but the leadership of the Russian Orthodox Church isn't holy. Until that changes..... call it ANYTHING but holy. Estonia declared the Russian Orthodox Church a terrorist organization, and I agree.
It's a shame. There are a lot of good Orthodox Christians in the ROC, but the Holy Rus and Russian World nonsense is killing it.
Dear Sir, Although I don’t have your Christian name, I just want you to know I very much appreciate your videos. They are very informative and very well put together. Thank you for your good work in the vineyard of the Lord. Lastly, I very much appreciate that you button the top button on your shirts. Keep up the good work for as long as you can. Sincerely In Christ Jesus, Larry Clarence Lewis, Ontario, Canada.
His name is Joshua. 😊
@@borisvandruff7532 Dear Mr. Van Druff, Thank you for supplying Joshua’s name. I appreciate your thoughtfulness
Larry Lewis, your politeness is so endearing. Thank you.
This might be the only video on RUclips having to do with the current war that has clear and accurate information.
This is a preposterous claim
2022 APRIL PUTIN'S WAR in UKRAINE
PATRIARCH KIRILL of Moscow is UNWORTHY to be a PRIEST! ! ! ! ! !
KIRILL has chosen the Camp of Infamy, of Horror, of the inhuman...
that of "the Holy War" of his friend PUTIN!
KIRILL: No mercy, no charity for the thousands of civilian victims, nothing Christian and nothing human PATRIARCH KIRILL, Primate of the ORTHODOX CHURCH of RUSSIA lies to 100 million Russian faithful about the True reality of the invasion in Ukraine
He repeats the same lies as his friend Putin!
PATRIARCH KIRILL of Moscow is UNWORTHY to be a PRIEST
KIRILL is a SHAME for ALL CHRISTIANITY!
HE must be tried as an accomplice in the WAR crimes of HIS FRIEND Putin
In 39/45 it was necessary to choose its camp: that of Hitler and Stalin or... the Camp of Freedom and Democracy.
Today everyone must choose their side again:
Either Putin's Stalinist "Concentration Camp"
be the CAMP of FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY!
KIRILL is a SHAME to all of Christianity
HE MUST GO, on his knees, asking forgiveness from God
but above all forgiveness from men! ! ! !
KIRILL shows off in his beautiful biblical beard but...
“Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing,
but within they are ravenous wolves. »
These words of Jesus remain relevant today.
Thank you. I have NEVER heard this explained in such an intelligent and historically correct way.Having recently converted from the Roman Catholicism to Orthodoxy, I have been so confused about all of this. It has often made me wonder if I jumped out of the frying pan into the fire. Your lesson really helped me understand. I’ll stay put and pray for humility for all the Patriarchs. So,so sad. Or…..Maybe I’ll just stay and home and pray for God’s mercy on myself and the world. Once again, thank you.
Drink deeply at the ancient prayers and liturgies of the East! I love too love them and believe their prayers enrich my prayers, however, look at John 14 for how important unity is to Jesus. Divisions are not of God. There is scandal in Rome, and there are wolves everywhere, but we cling to Christ and walk with Him in the dark valleys of this world. Jesus made 1 Church and appointed 1 earthly shepherd. Come back to the Church and attend one of the many catholic eastern rites that have re-unified so you can have the best of both.
@SanctusPaulus-ic5gl😂 it's his own decision
Ukraine was home to the second largest Baptist community in the world, after the United States, and was called the “Bible Belt” of the Soviet Union.
Today in the Russian occupied zones they have no legal identity. Holding illegal prayer services will get you arrested and beaten by the police.
@@robertwaguespack9414
"Illegal prayer services": What a concept!
If people want to get together to pray, surely they should be free to do so, without some authoritarian tyranny criminalising them.
Yes, even if they don't happen to share my beliefs!
@@paularrowsmith9980 During the Soviet era the Greek Catholics were an illegal entity. Today they are tolerated in the Russian occupied zone. But all throughout most of the former Soviet Union their existence is not tolerated. The people are regularly harassed and jailed.
@@robertwaguespack9414 Well the Greek Catholics now know what it is like when they persecuted Orthodox for centuries.
@@LadyMaria eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.
Outstanding job describing an impossibly complex situation that sounds entirely insane to anyone outside the Orthodox Churches.
Oh it isn’t that complex. Think of Ukrainian culture evolving to being more Western; Eg, multicultural and pan religiosity. This is occurring in Russia too but they have a reactionary regime. The Ukrainians have been compelled to reform faster as a condition of Western aid and support. This is no bother for post Cold War generation but an issue for older folk. It is though the fission for the Russian ambitions: their own younger generation have more in common with youth of Ukraine than their political leaders. They aren’t that keen on any war. This is showing.
@@russellmiles2861 Well said. It is not complicated. Two superpowers fighting over who can indoctrinate who and profit over which nation. The youth of Eastern Europe is westernized and don't have a lot in common with their parents' and grandparents' mindset. I side with the Russian side, since there is no reason for the Ukranian and Russian people to be divided, though everything western of Kiev should be its own independent state, since the cultural rift between East and West Ukraine is too great.
@@titusflaviusvespasian5923 Or perhaps the Latins have been infiltrating the Greeks with their own agenda for universal domination for at least the last thousand years. Seems to me that the Greeks have lost the edge to the Holy See since the 4th Crusade. An interesting name by the way. I am sure he could spread some considerable light on this subject from a foundational standpoint.
When you look at how the US State Department and CIA have infiltrated the Papacy and the Ecumenical Patriarchate in the years since WWII, it's not that surprising at all. The whole Ukrainian conflict comes down to nothing more than the US government trying to destroy the Christian religion because they view it as a threat to their dream of a homogeneous world that they can manipulate and control. Anything non-materialistic, anything that might lead a people to say 'we're going to do what is right and we don't care about the economic consequences,' is a threat to the American Empire which relies on control of the global economy to wield power and influence.
@@russellmiles2861 you got it all perverted. Russia is an Orthodox Christian country and Orthodoxy is true Christianity. Ukraine, being closer to the West, has been influenced by its heresies which made it spiritually separate from Russia. Many young Russians are growing up in sin, away from the true Church, hence they have a lot in common with Ukrainians or Western kids who have lost their Christianity a while ago. But there also a movement towards the Church in Russia, this it makes our country a traditional Christian society. If you call it “reactionary”, we’re proud of it. Means we’re still Christians.
Excellent break down of the Orthodox Churches. I would like to mention that the Catholic Church of the Latin Rite did not really gain traction of being called the Roman Catholic Church until Irish and Italian immigrants began moving to the United States. There are currently 22 Rites in full communion with the Catholic Church in Rome. The new Anglican Catholic Church that came about due to the schism of the Episcopal Church are still considered part of the Latin Rite. Even though they brought the book of common prayers and celebrate Mass using the prayers from the Episcopal Church. Their have been changes in retention of consecrated Host to conform with the Latin Rite. God bless. 😇
2022 APRIL PUTIN'S WAR in UKRAINE
PATRIARCH KIRILL of Moscow is UNWORTHY to be a PRIEST! ! ! ! ! !
KIRILL has chosen the Camp of Infamy, of Horror, of the inhuman...
that of "the Holy War" of his friend PUTIN!
KIRILL: No mercy, no charity for the thousands of civilian victims, nothing Christian and nothing human PATRIARCH KIRILL, Primate of the ORTHODOX CHURCH of RUSSIA lies to 100 million Russian faithful about the True reality of the invasion in Ukraine
He repeats the same lies as his friend Putin!
PATRIARCH KIRILL of Moscow is UNWORTHY to be a PRIEST
KIRILL is a SHAME for ALL CHRISTIANITY!
HE must be tried as an accomplice in the WAR crimes of HIS FRIEND Putin
In 39/45 it was necessary to choose its camp: that of Hitler and Stalin or... the Camp of Freedom and Democracy.
Today everyone must choose their side again:
Either Putin's Stalinist "Concentration Camp"
be the CAMP of FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY!
KIRILL is a SHAME to all of Christianity
HE MUST GO, on his knees, asking forgiveness from God
but above all forgiveness from men! ! ! !
KIRILL shows off in his beautiful biblical beard but...
“Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing,
but within they are ravenous wolves. »
These words of Jesus remain relevant today.
No, Roman doesn't refer to the rite used. It refers to their authority. Catholic Churches authority and doctrine comes from Rome.
No, Roman doesn't refer to the rite used. It refers to their authority. Catholic Churches authority and doctrine comes from Rome.
I really enjoy your lecture or information on these churches. You do a great job in explaining these church and the various denominations, thank you.
I am Greek Orthodox and I am very upset for what is happening between Russia and Ukraine ,May our Lord Jesus Christ unite them again in one Orthodox church and I pray that this war will be ended very soon by the peacemakers ( Blessed are the peacemakers as they will be called the children of God )
Same thing is going on between Albanian Orthodox Church & Greek Orthodox Church in Albania. Greek Orthodox Church needs to be booted out of Albania and let the Albanian Orthodox believers run their own Orthodox Church. affairs.
Ukraine doesn’t need Russia for nothing trust me nothing of any Russian control will be accepted for a very long time to come ! Russia just needs to stay out and away from Ukrainian government and spiritual matters all together !
@@michaeldaugette802I fully agree with you, what Russia brings to its neighbors and brothers and sisters and children in war , control, terror, the Russian people need to take control of their own country and make life better for all. I pray for peace to come to Ukraine, Russian and all the people of our world
unite in one Orthodox church based in Moscow lol? Or in Kyiv as it was originally? It's best to leave these churces separate forever
@@dmytrodelen I ask you sincerely: is nationalist sentiment completely divorced from your assessment? I am not opposed to canonical Ukrainian autocephaly, but I find it distressing that His All-holiness acted so quickly-seemingly without regard for Church unity in communion.
Great video, although it is important to add the rest of Orthodox hierarchs from Poland, Romania, Serbia, Slovakia, Jerusalem, etc that do not recognize the OCU. The majority of Orthodox recognizes the UOC of Metropolitan Onuphry.
Many don't recognise them because they are heavily influenced by Russia
@@jaqian And those who don't are siding with schismatics.
@@LadyMaria I'm not sure I understand your comment, can you explain please?
@Dustin Neely Sorry what do you mean?
@@jaqian Those who do not recognize the UOC under Met. Onufriy are siding with schismatics, the uncanonical schismatic OCU under Epifany.
It has nothing to do with being influenced by Russia but by church Canons and which autonomous church has been there the longest which is the UOC.
I am a Catholic of the Byzantine rite from Ukraine, thank you for highlighting the problem of our Orthodox brothers so well, I hope that with God's help we will be able to unite into a single Orthodox Church as it was from 988 (from the moment of baptism) until the signing of the Union (1596). and we hope that with God's help we will receive the recognition of autocephalous Orthodox churches, and in the future we will receive the patriarchy. May God bless!
De hecho el Papa iba a dar el patriarcado pero el patriarca de Constantinopla le escribió diciendo que no lo hiciera
For me it's simple, I follow Jesus and the kjv Bible. Not some tribe. Simplfy and unify is what will bring all Christian agendas to the forefront.
People need to research " virgin Mary Ukraine 1987 " this will open many eyes
@@gotaplay нет в мире ничего более убогого, чем когда какая-то нация считает себя избранной
@@6foot8jesuspilledpureblood82 You follow your interpretation of said book.
This was incredibly informative, thank you so much for explaining a tough subject so clearly
You're very welcome!
@@ReadyToHarvest This is very clear, neutral objective, free of sectarian prejudice. Well done !
I am just curious :
1. Isnt the ROC doing what Putin is doing ? One advance in the secular one, the other in the spiritual world ?
2. What the Patriarch of ROC is doing to the Patriarch of Constantinople, appears to be what the latter did to the Pope is 1054 AD ??
3. Isnt Constantinople is first amongst equal in the Orthodox world ?
Thanks very much !
Nothing tough about it. Further proof that ALL organised religion is harmful
I am so glad I am Catholic even though I admire and appreciate-and even practice- much of the Orthodox tradition. Sad to see the deep involvement of government and the lack of unified leadership. Praying for my sisters and brothers in the east!
Most unfortunately, the human shortcomings are always evident in the Church.
We Orthodox accuse the Catholic of autocracy, but the more democratic system of the Eastern Church fell victim of nationalism, state intervention and separatism.
Two thousand years later the Ideal still remains an Ideal.
Historically the Roman "Catholic" Church had the same problems
@@quakeroats5686 Only in the Anglosphere is it called the "Roman Catholic Church".
It's just...the Catholic Church.
@@penguinsfan251 can’t be Catholic if you’re schismatic
@@όαγωνιστής-θ6θ compared to Catholicism, how much has Orthodoxy done to spread faith around the world?
Many thanks for interesting video! Just one remark: The Georgian Orthodox Church became autocephalous in late 5th century, when it was granted independence by the Church of Antioch. Independence of the Georgian Orthodox Church was illegally abolished by Russians in 1811-1814 after annexation of the Georgian Kingdoms and Principalities by the Russian Empire. In 1917 the Georgian Orthodox Church restored its independence, that was recognised by the Russian Orthodox Church and the Ecumenical Patriarchate in 1943 and 1990 respectively. Therefore, the autocephalous Georgian church is much more older than one may assume from your video. Many thanks again!
Same with Kyiv metropolis, it was created as an exarchate of Constantinople in 988 and it was so till 1448 Moscow schism but hierarchies continued to exist in parallel in Great Dutchy of Lithuania and Great Duchy of Moscow and in 1648 Moscow annexed the Lithuanian part. Kyiv metropolis restored it's independence in 1918 and in 1990, and finally it was reborn on a council of 2018. It would be nice if Georgian patriarchy recognized Orthodox Church of Ukraine.
@@trymai_kavun Kiev's metropolis was one for all Russian people, but in 14th century mitropolit Petr moved to Moscow still being as metropolit of Kiev. So from this moment of Kiev's mitropolits were in Moscow as in their residence. So there cannot be another mitropolits exept those who were in Moscow.
So what does the Patriarch of Constantinopole have here if the Gergian church's motherchurch is the Antioch's patriarchat ?
I was not aware of this schism. Thank you for the excellent summary, complete with visual representation.
ruclips.net/video/tRa4MhjDjF0/видео.html
You read my mind! I was just thinking of this today because I have friends in both!
Very helpful...thank you for explaining this!
couple of notes
1. the metropolitanate of kiev was transferred to in the 14th century when the city was invaded by the mongols-first to vladimir-suzdal and then to moscow. during this time, the metropolis was called “metropolis of kiev, moscow, and all rus’” which later, of course, became the patriarchate of moscow in the 15th century.
2. with the ecclesiastical vacuum that ensued in kiev, the catholic poles eventually took control of what is now ukraine and effected a union between the local ruthenian orthodox clergy who were effectively coerced into accepting papal supremacy (see union of brest-litovsk 1596 and uzhhorod 1646). the kiev metropolis was a catholic uniate one until constantinople reconstituted it in the 17th century.
3. the temporary schism between moscow and constantinople in 1448 took place as a result of constantinople accepting the union of florence with the catholic church in 1439, which moscow deemed heretical and which constantinople later repudiated (see gennadius scholarius and mark of ephesus).
4. filaret was actually a front-runner to succeed patriarch pimen of moscow in the 1990s. a bit of a narcissist, he was quite sore about this. there is ample evidence of irregularities in his personal life that led to his being defrocked as well.
5. moscow’s problem with constantinople’s recognition of the OCU is well substantiated by orthodox canons. filaret could not legitimately ordain clergy having been defrocked. yet…somehow rules can be bent when the US state department becomes involved.
6. patriarch kirill’s lukewarm statements are disappointing, not unlike patriarch sergei during the stalinist era. but metropolitan onufry of the canonical UOC-MP has been consistently restrained and poised-showing solidarity with his flock and upholding the canonical norms of orthodoxy.
The Jesuits did no such coercing. The Ruthenians and Ukrainians who came into union with Rome did so of their own free will and not wanting to be dominated by Moscow.
@@penguinsfan251 Try telling that to my Rusyn grandparents, great-grandparents, and great-great grandparents. They came from Halychyna and Podkarpatska Rus’ and to them, Ukrainians were those of our people who sold out to Polish and Austro-Hungarian Catholics…and later Nazis.
What do you even mean by transferring?
In the midle of 14th century territory of modern Ukraine and Kyiv were not under mongols. But Moscow was under mongols for additional 150 yers.
This so called transferring is nothing more, but TerroRussian propaganda to justify crimes and genicides.
@@penguinsfan251 I hardly think that Jesuits were averse to coercing people. Their activities in the New World were not good to the natives there. And do not forget the excessive cruelty of the Inquisitions of the RC cult.
Thank you for further fleshing that out. I suspect the long-suffering and saintly Met. Onuphry (UOC under ROC) will be declared a Saint one day. The attack by the Ukrainian authorities on his Church is satanic. 😢
Straight forward summary. Outstanding.
Bro Joshua, you got church history game! 😀👍
I learn so much from your videos, thank you.
significantly, after the MP broke communion with the EP, other Churches did not break communion with the EP.
Why would they? The EP had not invaded their canonical territory. If you want to know what those Churches would have done if they had been the target, look no further than Antioch which severed relations with Jerusalem after it invaded its ecclesiastic territory in Qatar.
Dude I just want to say thank you so much. I've been so interested in becoming a member of an orthodox church and I haven't been able to figure out how it all started and didn't even know where to look. I was just praying this morning for more guidance towards the true church. I have a baby due in Jan and I want her to be baptized and for us to be a house that worships Christ and lives Christlike. Thank you again, I made sure to sub.
Can you PLEASE do more church history videos? This was so interesting...
I am amazed at how informative and watchable these videos are... thank you for all this hard work!
Thank you very much! Glad you like them.
As an American member of the new Orthodox Church of Ukraine, thank you for this video.
It would be interesting and informative if there is an update as of 2023. Please do...Aloha from Hawai'i.
Thank you so much for all your videos Josh. I’ve been struggling to find a denomination that fits my views for almost 7 years now. I would always find Pastors that agreed with some of my views, but other of my views they totally rejected. It has been so frustrating for me. I felt like the black sheep in every church I went to.
This channel has helped me to narrow down where I should be looking. I finally have hope that I can find a church with more like minded people. This has been a huge blessing.
Thank you so much brother! You have saved me years of frustration.
If you are one of the fortunate few who have never observed the following things during worship services, you might not understand the decline in attendance that many congregations were experiencing even before we were aware of COVID-19.
After each of the last three times my wife and I moved from one town to another, I attended the services of several congregations of several denominations (and some ostensibly non-denominational congregations). Here is a partial list of things that caused me to keep looking.
Political sermons in general but especially those that seem to be encouraging the creation of a theocracy in the United States.
Attempts to manipulate the emotions of the congregation.
Theology with which I disagree. (I’m not a traditionalist.) When I encounter theology with which I disagree in music, I can listen instead of participating but I much prefer for the songs to be listed in a bulletin or elsewhere so I can study the lyrics before it is time to sing the songs.
Emphasis on “church” attendance.
Dogmatism (even with regard to theology with which I agree).
Lack of music that encourages people to sing parts (harmony).
Music that would encourage people to sing parts (harmony) but pitched so low as to discourage people from singing parts.
Patriarchy (or matriarchy) - leadership roles tightly held by one extended family.
Christianese - words or phrases that are not familiar to non-Christian visitors.
Lack of respect for the preferences of people who have been taught to treat the main auditorium of a church building as “sacred space”, even though I don’t personally subscribe to that idea.
Prayers that employ multiple and unnecessary repetitions of the names and titles of deity in violation (it seems to me) of Exodus 20 verse 7 and Matthew 6 verse 7. (See also verses 5 & 6.)
Creedalism in general and especially encouraging people to read or recite a creed.
Encouraging people to read written prayers aloud - especially when those prayers include “confession” of sins of which the majority of the members of the congregation are probably not guilty.
Use of clerical vestments.
Statements or implications that certain ceremonies are efficacious (sacramental).
People “saving seats” for friends or family members.
Three of the five times my parents moved from one town to another before 1960, they transferred their membership to successively larger congregations but none of those congregations customarily did the things listed above.
This question is for anyone who might read it: Of the denominations whose services you have attended, which does the fewest of those things?
@@rogermetzger7335 Unfortunately we are the time of the great apostasy. The one thing I would adore above the drawback of any of the above is "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you". I am sick to my stomach at how I have been ignored and treated like a score, a number they have achieved but not a person to be loved and supported.
@@rogermetzger7335 your comments, in one point or another, describe nearly every church in existence.
@@MissingTrails and Suzanne Hartmann: I wasn't introduced to Sally until the late fall of 1975. More than seven years before that she created the following summary of what she had had experienced when her mother had (Sally's words) "dragged her to church": "Churches are places people go to tell other people what to do - or to pay the preacher to tell other people what to do."
Before Sally and I met, she was providentially led to attend the services of a Free Methodist congregation that was enough different from what she had experienced previously that she had started attending twice a month and she had even joined the choir.
I don't have any evidence that other Free Methodist congregations don't tell people what to do - or pay the preacher to tell people what to do. We currently live in a state where there are no Free Methodist congregations. On the other hand, the one in Toddville, Iowa (at least in the 1970s) did few or none of the things on the list of objections I listed on this thread six month ago. You might want to see what the Free Methodist congregation nearest to you is like.
Same here. There's a lot of us
1917 was when Georgia declared unilateral autocephaly. It was in 1943 that ROC recognized Georgia autocephaly
Thank you.
May you be well.
I applaud the author of this video and content. Very good presentation here.
I would only add one criticism around the 3:10 mark, it is mentioned that there
are two ways a church is Autocephalous. I would clarify that its a little more
nuanced then that. In fact, I would like to point to an even more significant reality
in determining Autocephaly, which is: at the end of the day, for us, a church is recognized
as truly Autocephalous if/when all the other Churches recognize it as such.
There is a place in our Liturgy when a primate (head of the church) presides in which each
church and their primate is named (read aloud). This list is called the diptychs.
What I see for the Future is that we Orthodox are moving towards a more formalized (and
expedient) way of recognizing Autocephaly. It will be the primates of each Church (or if
unable to attend, a representative) meeting and agreeing to recognize the Autocephaly
of the church that is claiming or seeking to have their Autocephaly recognized.
Proud member of the Orthodox Church of America 🇺🇸☦️
Anybody who can absorb all of this at once is a genius
Thank you for this very clear presentation. Could you produce another short video identifying which Orthodox churches have lent their support to Putin's war, and explain their reasoning? Thank you.
God will not be mocked.
I know a Ukrainian family that attended the Byzantine Rite of the Roman Catholic Church. How does that fit into the development of the denominations?
They are Ex Eastern Orthodox who came back into full union with us Catholics. They are essentially their own Church in communion with the Pope.
I am Eastern Orthodox. As I understand church history in Ukraine and also the Levant these areas were heavily Orthodox but when these areas were taken over in whole or in part by Catholic power. Many of the Orthodox parishes agreed to recognize the primacy of Rome in return for being able to keep the Byzantine Rite Liturgy and Orthodox theology. Other than commemorating the Pope of Rome they for the most part continued as before. All of this came about from political issues that were not specifically about bringing Orthodox parishes under Rome. The religious was pretty much a side squabble.
They're not rites of the Roman Church but they are true churches in equal standing with the Roman Church.. The Catholic Church is communion of churches of both east and west. Overtime after the Rome/Constantinople split there are some Eastern Churches who came back to Rome but it's not always the case since there are churches such as the Maronite Church that never broke communion with the Apostolic See of Rome.
If memory serves me right, it was probably like:
Up until today, there remains a cultural and historical division in Ukraine. Western Ukraine is much more closer to Poland and Lithuania while Eastern Ukraine closer to Russia. The UGCC (Ukrainian-Greek Catholic Church, which by the way practices the Byzantine Rite) was rooted in the Western Ukrainian lands. When the Poles were in power there, they forced the Union of Brest for these churches to unite with Rome. They were eventually united in communion with the Holy See, albeit keeping their rich traditions of Eastern Christian roots alive. Under the Russian Empire and the subsequent Soviet Union they were heavily persecuted. But fortunately the UGCC is well alive and doing well in today's Ukraine, even becoming the largest of the Eastern Catholic Churches, the largest of the rites within the Catholic Church after the Western Latin Church (headed by the Pope himself).
The Ukrainian Greek catholic church has oppressed the UOC historically.
I am a member of a Bulgarian Patriarchate church in Virginia, and not because we have so many choices here in the Appalachians. I am going to have to study this presentation here because I have never understood politics and it seems to be important at this time. We have Russian and Ukrainian church members as well as locals and converts. All I want to do is the right thing.
This was so well researched, thank you for your hard work
Thanks! I enjoyed making it.
Thank you for a clear exposition of the very complicated Ukrainian situation.
I am lucky enough to live in a single neighborhood that has 2 catholic parishes, 1 eastern rite catholic parish, a Eastern Orthodox Parish (greek) and a ukranian orthodox church. All within a 3 minute drive of each other. I;ve been to the ukranian service this week, and lemme tell you tension is high all around the board. And down the street in the city is a russian orthodox church. also mixed all thorughout are several hispanic pentecostal churches, i mean alot, on every corner.
Wow! Where I live there’s only one Catholic Church and no orthodox churches. I’m a pastor of a Church of God church in my town but have never been to a orthodox service
I’ve been attending a Russian Orthodox Church with Russians, Ukrainians, Greeks, Georgians and others all mixed in with Americans. Everyone is getting along just fine and taking the Priests advice that we are all Orthodox Christians first and foremost. Putting any nation above that is a dangerous sin.
We had a shared prayer service at Vespers for everyone involved in the war where a large section of the psalms were read in Russian by women from the troubled areas. There were a lot of tears but loving support by all. I pray for all the soldiers and civilians for their safety or a warm and loving welcome by our savior.
Josh it's time that you address each of the Church Councils that gathered. I'd be curious as to whether they were all influenced by political entities. In fact I hold a cautious position that those councils can be taken seriously. Perhaps you could consider that for a Ready to Harvest episode(s).
Are you talking about the Ecumenical Councils?Those dealt with combatting various heresies that were going around and helping define or defend doctrines and dogmas
He's commented in the past that ancient church history falls outside the purview of what he's most competent and comfortable talking about, what he's interested in talking about, and also that such topics are better covered on other RUclips channels. He feels Ready To Harvest is servicing a previously unfilled niche, and that ecumenical church history and patristics fall outside that niche.
@@RepublicofE Josh would be an excellent presenter of the 7 Ecumenical Councils plus the 8th Ecumenical Council which is recognized by the Roman Catholics as Ecumenical but not by the Eastern Orthodox .
I read that in another place these political entities participation was a form of lay participation.
@@philmattox8500 Actually we sorta do recognize 8 Ecumenical Councils (and for those who don't, everything in it is believed and recognized so it doesn't make a difference). However, the 8th Ecumenical Council of Orthodox and Roman Catholics differ. We uphold the Photian council, RCs have another council. For 200 years the Roman church recognized the Photian council as the 8th Ecumenical Council. Then politics happened and another council from around that same time that had Bishops that opposed St. Photios was substituted in as the 8th Ecumenical Council to this day. Basically Rome reneged on the 8th Ecumenical Council.
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Ok the last part is just hyperbole - there has never been widescale inter-Orthodox persecutions over the autocephely issue. Thank God!
As a Roman Catholic. that is a sort of outsider, I look to the Orthodox Churches with a mixture of despair and hope. This kind of work can let hope prevail. The Light will continue to shine despite all things we see developing over our globe.
As an atheist, I liked this video. This is great journalism, which is unfortunately rare these days.
Very fair and clear communication! Helpful. Thank you.
I would love to see you use your research to create a flowchart of "what denomination am i" with questions and answers leading the user to a denomination that fits their belief. Ive tried many different churches and don't know what i am besides christian and more conservative. I know that its rapidly changing and wouldnt be static but itd still be pretty interesting i think. Love your videos.
Check out Christadelphian videos for true Bible teaching. The apostasy has blinded the eyes of the masses.
Christian is all you should HAVE to be. I wish I could be more help I could more to stay away from than to try as welcoming and with correct doctrine. Calvary chapel have some good local churches but not all are welcoming.
@@carolebates9235 anytime a modern (less than 300 years old) church says that everyone else is in apostasy, that's a red flag.
Hi David Ness. I don’t think I stated who the apostasy was. That is not my term but from the Bible. ‘Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there be a falling away (apostasia) first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sits in the temple of God showing himself that he is God. 2nd Thessalonians 2:3,4. The second epistle of Peter 2:1 gives dire warning to the early believers. But there were false prophets among the people (Old Testament) even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the WAY OF TRUTH shall be evil spoken of. My accentuating. Truth was spoken by Jesus, but was adulterated. Today the only source of Truth is by hearing God’s word and seeking its message. It is a surprising revelation what is really says, as opposed to mainstream Christianity.
@@carolebates9235 that's fair, you did not point out who the apostasy was. When I read/hear that word, it has a certain context for me, relating specific to sects of Christianity. I may have read into your statement a bit, my apologies.
You mention God's word. And I see that you're a bit familiar with Greek, and that you are in search for the early Church's teaching. Are you aware that God's Word is Jesus Christ Himself, the Divine Logos, referred to in the prologue of the Gospel according to John (chapter 1)? I know Christadelphians are very studious, and familiar with the Bible, so I'm sure you have a lot explanations for why that might not be so. But, the fact is, the ancient Church called Christ God, and the Divine Logos, and said that He always was (read: I AM). And united Himself to human nature, to raise it up in order to partake of the Divine Nature (2 Peter 1:4).
Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on us all.
I didn't know about this spiritual side of the current conflict, so ta for that. Perhaps this will bring the two Ukrainian churches together, finally, once the current situation has been settled.
Doubtful. One has to be abolished, and that would be the uncanonical OCU.
There is Ukrainian Orthodoxy church and a personal cult of Russian dictatorship, not a "two Ukrainian churches"
You forgot to mention that actions of Constantinople's patriarch are considered a phyletism (a form of heresy) by Moscow's patriarch.
This is more complicated than the war itself
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Thank you, Josh. This was a timeline breakdown I haven't seen before.
So is it correct to say that the differences are entirely administrative/ political and not theological ?
Yes
Well, Ukrainians didn't agree with the dictator's personality cult what are the main part of the Moscow church
Called Justinian the Great a Roman Emperor, instant like for me. Along with the sublime content as always.
Thank you for a great presentation.
Excellent summary. Thank you.
I'm a subdeacon in the Orthodox Church.
A very good summary overall of the history of Ukrainian and Russian Orthodox church, however, missing one very important historical reality, which is that Christianity in that part of the world began in 988 when Constantinople visited Kyiv which is the Capital of Ukraine, at which time Moscow did not exist. This is most likely a major reason why Ukrainians do not want to take instructions from the Moscow Patriarch.
Ukraine didn't exist either. And ad for Kiev, it was a Russian city until the 20th century when a warlord rose up and, supported by the Germans, created the "Republic of Ukraine" even though, to qoute Wrangel: "he didn't speak a word of this Ukrainian language" and was a closet monarchist. After being defeated by the Soviets, they too created a Ukrainian Republic and gave it lands, which it historically never had, and this continued until the end of the Soviet Union.
Also, fun fact: If you look at maps dating back to the 16th century, the area controlled by Moscow was called "Russia" all the way back then.
Russia has never denied the role of Kyiv in the unification of Russian lands. The entire conflict between peoples is based on the fact that Ukrainians want to appropriate our common culture.
@@Sova1453 Ukraine has its own language and culture they don't need to "appropriate " anything Russian , so get your army , spy's , Separatists and get the Fk off Ukrainian soil ... And return the 1000,000 kidnapped children
@@kalebthehistorian5928the city of Kyiv was indeed Russian until the 20th century... Starting at the end of the 18th century, before which it was a part of the polish Lithuanian commonwealth. The Ukrainian nation has developed apart from Russia and the fact is that Ukrainians want independence, first from Poland Lithuania and then from Russia
@@jeannebouwman1970 As many have pointed out, were it not for the interferince of the Poles and Lithauanians, there wouldn't be a Ukraine, as it was them who created this idenity to seperate the Rus peoples and allow them to rule over them. For example, if the Poles had succeded in holding Moscow in 1612, and became their overlords, would it be any less a Russian city?
As one who has a channel full of worthless banter, I'm very impressed by the good use of your talents. Subscribed.
Actually until 1448 it was not russian church ,it was kyev( kievan rus', ukraine) metropolis.
There is similar situation in Macedonia and Montenegro, in both of these countries Serbian orthodox church is the only canonical church, but in Macedonia for instance there is schismatic Macedonian orthodox church created by communist regime in Tito's yugoslavia, and now archbichopsy of Ohrid (SOC) is pushed into the margins...
on the other hand we have Montenegrin oc created litterarly in police station in 1993, but later is registred litterarly as an NGO in 2000 only to serve the Milo Đukanović's regime, with that creating quite big unstability in that country (but western media oftenly paints SOC as a factor of unstability in that country which is very laughable)
Interesting stuff. I’ve also heard that Ukraine has the highest number (percent?) of evangelical Protestant Christians of any Eastern European nation as well. Whatever the case though, praying for the brothers and sisters over there.
Unsurprising.. remember near isn't of man. But the Devil, men like Putin are only pawns I'm his game. Likewise God is sovereign over all and the game will turn. But where and how only he knows save what he has revealed, by his prophets.
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That's a shame.
Could you do a follow up to this video looking at how attitudes and policies have changed since the war began?
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I’m a muslim researching Orthodoxy at university. This was a very informative well put together video. Information heavy, but it was needed for people to do their further research. Thank you for this, God Bless!
Wow!!!! Well done.
You ran that down without an um or an er. Impressive and thorough overview.
Break it down for me. Why is Premier Zelensky closing churches in Ukraine?
Very well presented educational video.
Thank you very much!!!
Wow I had no idea that was happening in the Eastern Orthodox churches. And here in America we think only the Roman Catholics have made a mess of the Church.
We don't believe that our Church (the Church) is a mess.
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These divisions are completely contrary to Jesus' prayer that all Christians be one as He and the Father are one.
I pray not only for them but also for those who will believe in me through their word, so that they may all be ONE as you, Father, are in me and I in you, that they also may be in us, that the world may believe that you sent me. And I have given them the glory you gave me, so that they may be ONE, as we are ONE, I in them and you in me, that they may be brought to perfection as ONE, that the world may know that you sent me and that you loved them even as you loved me. (John 17:20-23)
I agree. In spite of all denominatioms and their differences, we must be loving toward one another in order that God is glorified
We're still one Orthodox Church.
@@LadyMaria The Moscow Patriarchate condemned the Kyiv Patriarchate as schismatic, as it claims jurisdiction over Ukraine. Some Orthodox churches have not yet recognized Ukraine as autocephalous. A "schism" is a split or division between strongly opposed sections or parties, caused by differences in opinion or belief.
Paul the apostle spoke out against division to one of the earliest Christian communities. He said, "I urge you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree in what you say, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and in the same purpose." (1 Corinthians 1:10)
How can you say that "We're still one Orthodox Church" when accusations of schism are being made?
Bless of weapons used against hospitals and dictator's personality cult are not contrary to Jesus?)
Always appreciate your thorough research and fair way of presenting things!
I am really impressed how competent you are in this overly complicated matter that has been happening with my Orthodox brothers and sisters in Ukraine. Thank you!
In the States a lot of people, because of politics and certain voices, seem to think "Ukraine is persecuting Christians" because they've conflated Orthodoxy in Ukraine and Russian Orthodoxy as one and the same.
Any persecution of Christians is horrible, but most Americans don't have a clue that there's an Orthodox church freely practicing at all in Ukraine, nor that Russia is persecuting Christians.
Two of my friends are Orthodox chaplains in the Ukrainian military. I'm furious with the patriarch of Moscow for his heresy. Most Americans don't even know that both churches in Ukraine are largely against the war.
This is the best video I've found that explains the situation.
You just made à summarize of my course paper. Thank you!!!
A lot of information to chew upon when it comes to what is currently happening in Ukraine.
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Insightful review, as always. Thanks
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Russia also doesn't let other non-Orthodox Christians do any kind of evangelization, Russia has strict anti-proselytization laws. My pastors, who are Pentecostal, were harassed and feared being arrested when visiting there on a trip. I've found it really sickening that some Christians have been cheering on Russia in this war.
@a wow.
@@TestifyApologetics don’t even bother with this guy. He’s just some loser who has over 100 comments here being a self righteous dick to people about their religion but without providing academic evidence.
To be fair, shouldn't your pastors be going where there is no Christianity instead of bugging Christians?
As much as I hate the leadership of the Russian church right now I don't think other Christian groups should be poaching on ancient Christian lands land where the church still is alive.
@@LadyMaria in their minds they are bringing them to Jesus.....it's truly bizarre.
Wow. Complex is an understatement.
One thing that I would add to the very last statement of the video implying (probably correctly) that if Moscow prevails in this war, those churches who are not a part of the so-called "Moscow Patriarchate" (a name imposed on the rightful and canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church) will suffer retribution: the opposite (retribution from the government of Ukraine and the schismatic churches therein) will happen to those who have Moscow as their mother church. In fact this is already happening, with the shameful closing of monasteries and the outright theft of the property of churches who are doing no harm to Ukraine. This excellent video came out before this made the news, so it is understandable that this might be omitted. The whole world should pay for an end to this war.
Oh no, a mix of naZis and commies makes a crimes and will make more crimes, what a surprise
I heard about this when it happened, but only now I have some understanding of it. A really complex situation that seems to have no right answer.