I bought the microphone on your recommendation and I was not disappointed. Mine came with the same mount that you showed, a USB adapter and a pop filter as well. It was only $32 with all the accessories. What a bargain! I liked it so much, I bought another.
I am starting a PODcast and went to your "podcast equipment for beginners". I have to say that I am beyond pleased! You are clear, friendly and overall outstanding! Thank you very much!!!!!!
What a very professionally well made video. Anybody out there preparing to make a tutorial video on any given subject, watch this video. The pace along with the structure is as good as it gets.
I use an SM57 for spoken word, podcasting, game streaming ECT.. I love the sound. It's warm and very similar sounding to the SM7b just with a bit less presence. A lot depends on each person's voice as well. Great video, thank you!
I think you overstate the case, to suggest that a podcaster should not be using a dynamic mic. Lots of podcasters use Shure SM7B's and rode procasters and podcasters and so forth, and sound just great.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy OK, fair enough. Still, I have used Behringer SL75C's and XM 8500's and had very pleasing sound for my YT videos. In fact the sound was so good that I would never exchange them for a cheap condenser mic. I own a Rode NT1 but apart from voiceover stuff, I would rather use the Behringer dynamic mics for my "table-talk" videos. Nor did I ever feel the need to upgrade to the expensive dynamic mics. I guess it depends on your voice, but for me the low-priced Behringer mics do the job so well it would seem almost irresponsible to buy an SM7b. Not to argue, though. You do a great job on your channel, and it is one of my go-to channels for audio info!
A lot of people will tell you to use a dynamic microphone for podcasting, if you room is not sound treated, like the Shure SM7B, Rode procaster, Heil PR-40, just saying.
The problem is finding an interface that can drive a decent dynamic without breaking the bank. I have a Steinberg UR-44 and a pair of SM57s and I have trouble getting them hot enough before the pres in the interface reveal how noisy they really are. I hear the SM7B is really notorious for this as well. People suggest using those JFET inline amps (cloudlifter etc) but that's a $100 band-aid. I also have an AT-2035, and I live right by a busy road. Side by side, once I match the levels, the SM57 catches all the same noise the AT-2035 does. Not saying you are wrong - dynamics are definitely less sensitive, but I think to get the most out of a dynamic in an untreated room you need a decent preamp and probably need to rig it up real close to the speaker as well. Edit: Guilty of commenting before watching, I didn't realize he outright said to avoid dynamics. Doesn't make any sense. Videos like this should educate, not instruct.
@@zedahmad2751 The noise problem isn't in the microphones themselves, but in the crappy pre-amps that need to be turned all the way up when using a dynamic.
I'm not a podcaster but I am on voice calls fairly often so I was looking to upgrade the mic I was using (3.5mm mic attached to headphones). My initial thought was a blue yeti since everyone has it, but a lot of people complain that it just picks up everything, mouse clicks, keyboard typing, etc. So I ended up going with a dynamic microphone, an audio interface, and a microphone arm with a shock mount. I got the Samson Q2U for the microphone, the Behringer UMC22 for the audio interface, and the same Innogear arm that was in the video.
Thanks so much for the video. I was about to drop about $100 on a Blue Yeti, but I purchased the Behringer and a condenser mic and I am very happy with the results. My voiceovers now sound like they were done in a professional studio. Not sure about those claiming to get a lot of background noise, I don't hear it in my recordings, or maybe my ears are just not that sensitive. Thanks for the recommendations!
I am a voice over artist and have been for over 40 years and the technology in this day and age is amazing. I have 2 studio's...one in Melbourne and one in Mansfield in the high country of Victoria and I use a Rhode K2 mic with a U2A Waveterminal Sound Card and a LTO Booster thingy with a Tapco mixer and it all works very well. I use Audacity as a recording platform and send of my voice overs as WAV files...and they do the rest. Until recently I was using a Rode podcaster USB mic when travelling but somehow it was damaged and I needed a replacement urgently and I found an Audio Technica AT 20 etc etc for $168-00 at JB HiFi....mmm any way I bought it and sent some voice files to a few clients and some of the tech minded types came back and said there was little or no difference from my normal set up!! Amazing! But how good are Rode...I sent my damaged mic back for repair and without any questions etc they sent me a brand new one...now that"s customer service...I also take it away with me as a back up...like you...you can never have too many microphones!! Really enjoyed the video !!
This is exactly what I was looking for. You seem like a pretty credible source, like a “been there done that and got the t shirt” kind of guy. Thank you!
Hey there my friend. Really good video and some great information. I’m really passionate about not needing to spend a fortune to get great recordings and focus on this a lot on my channel too, so always love seeing others promoting this message.
thanks my friend, just bought this exact set up including a technia headphones and i didn't knew how to use the berighenr interface hahaha now you have explained a lot in just 60 seconds so thank you. loved the proximty effect
Did this, and woah, pretty decent sound for the money spent, I got the UM2, it's good but I recommend the UMC22 if you want it to last you longer, and got a BM800 kit with mic arm and everything for around 20 dollars, all in all, around 60-70 dollars spent, and it sounds good, I plan to save up for maybe an AT2020
Clamping to the table top. I used a couple of old credit cards at first then I got a pair of metal plates from a mate. (about 6"x4") The plates spread the load, which helped a Lot when I moved the stand from the table to a shelf (made of chipboard).
Sounds great man. Don't worry about what everyone is saying about condenser vs dynamic. In this day and age you do what works for you. Not for other people.
You definitely do not have enough subs for the quality of this content. Looking for a mic for podcasting and YT, this is the best video I've seen! Keep up the great stuff, you've earned a sub. :)
The umc 404 is a beast with options and four xlr ports . Then the zoom p4 knocked that out of the water. It's the interface that also records, 4 xlr ports too and not much bigger than a cell phone.
Bought the Behringer UMC22 as suggested and hooked up to my TONOR Pro Condenser Microphone. Downloaded the drivers from the Behringer website as he said. RUNS PERFECT! I actually found a UMC22 kit on Amazon that included all the cables and a decent headset for under $60! Follow his instructions and you can't go wrong.
Excellent video, thanks! I was able to pick up the UMC22, a condenser mic, a boom arm, a shock mount, a pop filter, and an XLR cable for $30 on Amazon.
interresting usb only on the preamp thats cool and all until you burn out the usb ports by selecting the wrong settings please with any amp read your manual so far im liking this video nice job
Thanks a million for this straightforward amazing video! I've watched so many videos about what tech to use for starting a podcast. This one by FAR is the best I've seen! Thanks again!!!!
I wish that interface had a sort of compression control where no matter where you at at the mic the sound volume remains the same so your not having to adjust the gain if you need to move around, but it sounds good anyway. Compression is a must or podcasting!
A good exposition. Can't totally agree on the dynamic microphone... It's a personal thing but condenser microphones sound sharp and over clinical to me. IMO, dynamic microphones sound much more human. They have less gain, I suppose but with my Tascam DR60 Mk2 an AKG lavalier dynamic microphone will _easily_ pick up a normal spoken voice from 10 feet away. At more usual distances (1-3 feet), it sounds superb.
I was in the Artillery in the Army and that inexpensive Mic sounds really good to me. For a 2.00 mic, I am impressed. Thanks for doing this video, I'm sure it will help a lot of people to make decisions.
Your set up is like my current portable set up. I have the Behringer UMC204HD interface as I need the MIDI as well. It's comparable to the Focusrite Scarlett 2i4 (first generation) which I also have. I bought the UMC204HD because I had a job came up while I was away from home and I didn't bring my mobile set up so I had to buy a cheap one to get the work done. I bought the same stand that attaches to the table as well. I bought a Shure SM58 mic and wrapped a duvet over my head to dampen the room sound and got the job done. A large diaphragm mic would be better and cheaper but I got the SM58 new for half price and I use it for live shows instead of using the venues mic as you never know who used it and how the venue mic was used before it's been given to you so for hygienic reason I bring my own.
To say generally that condenser mics sound better than dynamics ignores the fact that most condenser mics require a properly treated room (re echo, reflections, etc) or you end up with a bunch of room noise. There is a very good reason why most podcasters use dynamic mics like the Shure SM7B, EV RE20, etc - it's not budget, it's about rejecting room noise, etc.
Thanks Pidjen! Glad it helped mate. I plan on releasing weekly content now so the channel should grow quite a bit this year. Please share it with your friends if you can! Cheers.
i set up bm 800 + umc202hd + xlr but i don't have the quality that you showed at 10:30. it has a lot of noise and its volume is low. when i cut some frequencies i get rid of the noise but i still have to be so close to the mic and speak loudly in order to be heard properly. what do you think i did wrong. do you have any suggestions?
Right so i had the same set up WAY before i watched this video and i can 110% say that this is an awesome budget set up i have had it for 1 and a half years and it still sounds good, I am upgrading mics but keeping the same interface and the only reason i am upgrading is bc i want a slightly better sounding mic so I have nice audio for youtube
DIY pro-tip: If you don't want to spring for one of those K&M pop filters (really, they're not THAT expensive), you can stretch a pair of pantyhose over a wire coat hanger. It'll look like crap, and be kind of a pain to position (read: have fun figuring out how to attach it in front of the mic), but at least you saved a couple bucks.
For about $45 online, there's the Samson Q2U. A USB dynamic microphone that can be plugged into your PC/laptop without picking up the noise of a condenser mic and less set up time.
Excellent video, very useful, I'd say the best product review I've seen in a while, helping to get things done for a non-professional rather than showing off toys. Thank you.
Thank you! I'll be making the dream happen with way less cash spent after watching. Great video, obviously made by an audio nerd the quality is terrific.
I accidentally bought the umc22 and really like it: I especially like the front-mounted XLR. I also have a universal audio arrow 2x4, which is higher quality but it's overkill and much more expensive and less portable and harder to use! And I'll never use the built-in DSP since I do everything "in the box" in my DAW....
I like how he says not to use a dynamic mic because it "will sound terrible" but updates the gear list in the description to recommend a XM8500 (a dynamic microphone)
Great sugestions thank you! Will this be the same for a 2 person podcast or would you recommend getting something different? Does that interface come with two inputs?
I wonder.... you did mention in the beginning, that we shouldn't use that special looking microfones with the round or flat head, now you recommend in 2020 the Behringer XM8500 ? Or do I get something wrong here?
BM800 mic will do a good job on speaking voice, however, keep this mic close to your mouth because it is a noisy mic with a hiss easily noticeable. Also it's highs are good but week in the mid and low ranges with some distortion as well. I wouldn't use it for acoustic instruments or any recording at distance.
A double layer of bubble warp under the bottom of the mic stand takes care of a lot of the problem with noise. Having a minimum of discipline that keeps you from touching the table is even more effective.
I have that exact mic right now, but i plug it into my pc instead of an audio interface. It sounds really bad when plugged into the pc. so im getting that audio interface that you have showcased soon. Thanks for this, now my mic wont sound static.
That's one advantage of the Behringer over the Focusrite. Focusrite just turns the input red when clipping, which is bad news for colorblind people. Also, my PC *came* with ASIO drivers inbuilt.
Despite its driver issues (you really need to dig up the legacy Behringer drivers in lieu of the ASIO4ALL), the UM2 and UMC22 do the trick. And these cheap Chinese condensers like the BM800 or the equivalent Neewer NW700 and NW800 are much better than they should be for so little money. That said, I think a less sensitive dynamic mic is more kind to one's speaking voice and of course tends to not pick up as much room tone. I think the Behringer XM8500 is awesome, and it doesn't cost much more than the Chinese condensers. The industry standard Shure and Rode mics are cool, but pricey. I really think some skilful post-processing can polish spoken voice recorded with serviceable but much cheaper mics.
the mic stand you said No to: i have one, and i use it for an iPhone camera stand. so my Sony a99 is my main camera, but i get that alternative view from the iPhone on the mic stand. it gives me a lot of flexibility (and you are right: lousy for an actual mic; transfers every noise on the desk).
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I have the umc404hd version of this interface, it's really flexible and I use it for everything now. Stereo micing, recording from my dj mixers, every day pc/gaming use, just anything really. I haven't even tapped all of it's capabilities yet as I have yet to try out the insert effect channels. All that for a device I got for 90 bucks on sale, it's hard to beat.
So, I'm completely new to this and looking at getting a budget setup like this. I want to do interviews and things ok my podcast, do they make a double mic interface or would I just have to get double of everything?
I have a behringer umc204hd, it has 2 microphone inputs (xlr input) and it's relatively cheap, just a little bit more than the one mentioned in the video (at least in Slovakia). I didn't try any microphone with it yet, but from what i tested (midi and audio playback) i recommend it.
I too have exactly the same interface and microphone. But I am not getting the signal.🤔🤔 I am using XLR to 3.5 mm Jack which is connected to 6.5mm extension Jack. Is this why the microphone not producing signal. ? Do I need to purchase the same cable u are using
Whata fantastic video , I really appreciate the information and the format in which it was presented . Great job . I look forward to hearing / watching more from you .
Completely disagree about the mic type reccomendation. If you do not have an acoustically treated room the SM58 clone or other dynamic will deliver the best rejection of room reflections. A large diaphragm is far more sensitive and gives a ton of room tone and reverb. They are awesome if you have sound treated room. They deliver the "bathroom recording effect" if your room is a standard room.
I fell for the condenser mic issue as well. While they are GREAT if you can eliminate ALL noise, you will be forever chasing noise from your broadcast/recording if you are in anything short of a perfectly quiet room. I got a nice condenser mic, and in ideal situations it simply ROCKS! But I moved to a dynamic mic ..... as most top end podcasts use as well as radio stations. Their ability to cancel ambient noise is crucial and what is truly needed for this type of use. And to be honest, the dynamic mics he showed were a poor example of what is available for broadcast/podcast use.
Great video. I have tried all those things and what you put together is a great option. For me and my style of videos and podcasting came up with different equipment. I had your set up and I used the dynamic mic due to I have a noisy computer. I ended up using a Tascam-DR5x and a Pop Lapel condenser mic.. For me it works great for my style of on the fly audio. This is also about the same price point as an option.
Only if you are really desperate and nothing else on the shelves you will buy a Behringer product no matter price..! Opinion got proven through the years of using all kinds of audio equipment. For that price and more reliable, the same range I would recommend Scarlet from Focusrite, combined with cond. mic. And they got a pretty neat one comes with kit + headphones while having a built-in phantom power (+48 V) for condensers too. The new model 2i2's to 2i4's have midi in/out as well as usb so you can use your DAW, midi instruments, etc all in one unit. Still, I would be using any other type rather than usb. p.s. Yep... Overhead mics for a drum set or amp.... :)
I don't know why so many people recommend condenser microphones for these budget videos knowing damn well the person on this budget doesn't have a properly treated room.
You don't need a treated room to use a condenser microphone. I've recorded about 5 albums that had air play for local artists and it's fine as long as you have the mic in a good position. The room wasn't treated in this video and it sounded fine. I shoot a podcast twice a month in this room as well = no problems at all. Food for thought.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy My room isn't treated either. The condensor mic picks up a lot of crap that a dynamic mic wouldn't and a fair amount is preventable by spending thousands on audio treatment.
@@Sov92 If you're running the gain high or have a lot of ambient noise it can be a problem but I've got my mic position pretty well sorted. There's little to no background noise on this video for example even with the cheap mic 😀
I see all sorts of DIY soundproof booth options online, not as good but at least there are ways to cut the noise, even heard of people using doonas or pillow forts with decent results
BM-800 kits that include both windsock and pop filter, as well as a scissor arm and shock mount are very common as a boxed bundle. Often not much more than the microphone, and usually cheaper than buying the mic and arm seperately.
I liked the "Higher Quality Microphone Alternatives" section, performed a search and found an "inexpensive" alternative to the HQ alternatives - Superlux E205, I took the non-USB version.
I could likely get flamed here for even mentioning this, but I've been looking at reviews for a Fifine mic that's about on par with a Yeti. These are USB mics and don't require the preamp. While your setup sounds wonderful, I really don't notice "that" much difference between yours and a $30-$50 Fifine, at least for voice. Yours is a better setup, no doubt about it. But would most listeners really discern the difference? I don't think I would under casual listening. In a direct A/B comparison, or listening closely, perhaps. The differences are subtle, and when listening for content, not quality, I wouldn't notice at all. I welcome your viewers' honest feedback. I understand you want to say USB is crap, yadda yadda yadda. Honestly, I personally don't hear a massive difference. Nor do I feel most people would really notice or care. That's why I want your honest opinions, not flames, please.
10:42 I want to correct you (based on my understanding of course).That thing is not actually meant to be a pop filter. I mean sure, it can help with plosives, but it's more of a wind muff/screen which is meant to block out any sort of wind noise you get into your microphone. Overall great video nonetheless and now im inspired to buy that microphone and setup. Great video and thank you!
Hey Shane, I'd like to have a "mobile recording unit" that i can take it with me and do interviews outside of the "studio". Which audio interface would you recommend buying that has (at least) two input, and what XLR mics would you go for if you are on a budget - so Shure and Seinnheiser is out of the question, and I don't really like the BlueJet mic everyone is raving about - it's too.... bulky and flashy for me. I have MacBook and I use Audacity for recording and editing at the moment. Thanks for your input on this.
Not Shane, obviously, but: if you want a really mobile unit, then Zoom H4n is a good a two channel recorder. It's a bit more expensive (at around 200€ here, so probably around that price range in USD as well). If you don't mind schlepping a laptop with you, then apparently Behringer makes a two channel version of that U-Phoria, at around 70€. Behringer also makes ok cheap large diaphragm microphones. I also use mainly Audacity, but I'm thinking about using Reaper. It's packed with features and is also free. The license for it isn't much either. But yeah, my main point would be Zoom H4n or if you need more channels, Zoom H6 [it has 4 XLR inputs and phantom for all of them, with changeable mic capsules (comes with stereo and omni capsules)].
An extra feature I feel should be pointed out about the interface you used. The XLR port is playing dual functionality. It will also act as a 1/4 inch audio input for instruments. Extra bang for your buck.
Hi, would like your opinion. If you are going for "beginner/easy/cheap/not too involved," what can be better than just buying the Rode NT-USB? It comes with its own stand and pop filter, and it is made to work without needing an audio interface. I realize it is not the cheapest of all mics, but when you consider that you don't have to buy anything else, it is really not bad - plus it is high quality. Also, for beginners, its literally plug and play - totally bypassing the need for an interface and figuring out different stands, cords, and pop filters. Opinion?
i just used a neewer mic with phantom psu and it works pretty well. With some noise cancellation and echo removal it sounds 100x better then my g430 mic does lol
Love this video. Explained everything very concisely. However, I bought an Excelvan Mic. It has the connector you said I needed for the mic end, but the other end looks like a straight jack that I might plug into an amp or other speaker device. It does not go into any audio slot on my computer. I have two questions. 1) Should I get a different cord than the one that came with the mic and just hook it up to the UMC22 like in the video. --==OR==-- 2) Will that audio jack work in the Input slot on the UMC22? I'm trying to figure all this out before I make my last purchases. I need to get the adjustable stand you have and the UMC22. I just need to know if I need to buy a separate cord as well. Thanks again for the video!
Heey, so you were dissing dynamic mics in the begining, but I see you're recommending the XM8500 which is a dynamic microphone. Not that I mind, it's a pretty good one, 'been using one for a couple of years now, my only problem is that I cheaped out and got a lexicon alpha as an audio interface, and since the amp is weak I had to buy a separate preamp. I'm considering going for a scarlett solo. The UMC22 does sounds appealing but does it have enough drive to use a dynamic mic with some distance? I know, not the optimum set-up but I prefer the darker coloured sound of a dynamic mic as opposed to the clear, almost metallic sound of a condenser one. Very informative btw, cheers.
Hi Shane . Do you suggest this system for conferencing ? does it allow you to bypass a physical mixer ? . ie can you mix it via software alone and send the finished sound to an active speaker ?
Great video, learned a lot. I was about to drop some serious cash for my first set up but after watching this I don't think I have to in order to get the sound I want. Thanks.
I just found your channel and it is really informative. Do you reccomend another cheap podcasting set up for the end of 2019 ? I am attempting to record a facebook audio livestream and also a mobile podcast using my cellphone . Is this possible? Thanks for your time .
This will work but upgrade the mic. I have several guides on my channel now at different prices. There's a new video in the next two days with a killer cheap mic that rocks!
Hi! I'm trying to record a podcast for two people and possibly add in a third microphone for an in-house guest speaker. Can the sound card/audio interface you're showing here, be used to hook up extra mic's or do you recommend another one that does?
I rrrrreeeeaaaallllyyyyy recommend using lapel mics instead of table-top studio condenser mics. All you're going to get from a big condenser mic is limitless background noise. It's not necessary to build yourself a sound-proof studio, either--just use a lapel mic. You can download a FREE app called Prism Live Studio and go live on RUclips. 10 bucks for a lapel mic (or Power Dewise sells a nice noise-canceling two-mic "interview" kit for around 30 bucks) and you're good to go. Everybody thinks they need to sound like Darth Vader's badass cousin through a big tabletop mic, but no listener is going to notice any real difference between a tabletop condenser mic and a lapel mic.
Hi. Thanks for making this video. I need to use the UK links to order stuff. However, when I click on the BM800 link, it takes me to page with a number of different BM800 mics, each with a different manufacturer name. Are these all the same? Is there one that is the original? Is there a best one? Thanks.
Great video! How about for multiple users ? Is there a Behringer unit that you can plug multiple mice into or do you have to get one separately for each mic?
I loved this video. It's straight to the point and very informative. I'm starting to get into audio and I'm definitely subscribing to you. One thing I'd like to ask is, now it might be a stupid question, but I just don't know so I'll rather ask: Is this kind of a setup also usable when it comes to voice acting? I want to more or less copy what you did here with this video because it sounds amazing in my opinion, especially for entry. What I'm wondering is if certain things in this should be switched out for something more suitable or are the two (VA / podcast) the same thing at the end of the day?
You could always go for a better microphone. One I am enjoying a lot lately is the Rode Procaster and Rode NT1. The Procaster is a great mic for also blocking out ambient noise and the NT1 is an awesome sounding condenser mic.
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I bought the microphone on your recommendation and I was not disappointed. Mine came with the same mount that you showed, a USB adapter and a pop filter as well. It was only $32 with all the accessories. What a bargain! I liked it so much, I bought another.
Totally and the usb adaptor they come with does not even work with the microphone.
I am starting a PODcast and went to your "podcast equipment for beginners". I have to say that I am beyond pleased! You are clear, friendly and overall outstanding! Thank you very much!!!!!!
Thanks so much! 😀
What a very professionally well made video. Anybody out there preparing to make a tutorial video on any given subject, watch this video. The pace along with the structure is as good as it gets.
I use an SM57 for spoken word, podcasting, game streaming ECT.. I love the sound. It's warm and very similar sounding to the SM7b just with a bit less presence. A lot depends on each person's voice as well.
Great video, thank you!
I think you overstate the case, to suggest that a podcaster should not be using a dynamic mic. Lots of podcasters use Shure SM7B's and rode procasters and podcasters and so forth, and sound just great.
This video is about getting good sound on a budget mate. I used a mix of higher end dynamic mics for my podcast but they are all over $200.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy OK, fair enough. Still, I have used Behringer SL75C's and XM 8500's and had very pleasing sound for my YT videos. In fact the sound was so good that I would never exchange them for a cheap condenser mic. I own a Rode NT1 but apart from voiceover stuff, I would rather use the Behringer dynamic mics for my "table-talk" videos. Nor did I ever feel the need to upgrade to the expensive dynamic mics. I guess it depends on your voice, but for me the low-priced Behringer mics do the job so well it would seem almost irresponsible to buy an SM7b. Not to argue, though. You do a great job on your channel, and it is one of my go-to channels for audio info!
A lot of people will tell you to use a dynamic microphone for podcasting, if you room is not sound treated, like the Shure SM7B, Rode procaster, Heil PR-40, just saying.
The Audio Technica AT2005USB is a great Dynamic mic for the price. Plus it can do XLR or USB.
It all comes down to fitting within the budget as well. There are some good dynamic mics out there.
The problem is finding an interface that can drive a decent dynamic without breaking the bank. I have a Steinberg UR-44 and a pair of SM57s and I have trouble getting them hot enough before the pres in the interface reveal how noisy they really are. I hear the SM7B is really notorious for this as well. People suggest using those JFET inline amps (cloudlifter etc) but that's a $100 band-aid.
I also have an AT-2035, and I live right by a busy road. Side by side, once I match the levels, the SM57 catches all the same noise the AT-2035 does.
Not saying you are wrong - dynamics are definitely less sensitive, but I think to get the most out of a dynamic in an untreated room you need a decent preamp and probably need to rig it up real close to the speaker as well.
Edit: Guilty of commenting before watching, I didn't realize he outright said to avoid dynamics. Doesn't make any sense. Videos like this should educate, not instruct.
@@zedahmad2751 The noise problem isn't in the microphones themselves, but in the crappy pre-amps that need to be turned all the way up when using a dynamic.
@@xHadesStamps yessir, when i said "they" i meant the pres in the interface
I'm not a podcaster but I am on voice calls fairly often so I was looking to upgrade the mic I was using (3.5mm mic attached to headphones). My initial thought was a blue yeti since everyone has it, but a lot of people complain that it just picks up everything, mouse clicks, keyboard typing, etc. So I ended up going with a dynamic microphone, an audio interface, and a microphone arm with a shock mount. I got the Samson Q2U for the microphone, the Behringer UMC22 for the audio interface, and the same Innogear arm that was in the video.
Thanks so much for the video. I was about to drop about $100 on a Blue Yeti, but I purchased the Behringer and a condenser mic and I am very happy with the results. My voiceovers now sound like they were done in a professional studio. Not sure about those claiming to get a lot of background noise, I don't hear it in my recordings, or maybe my ears are just not that sensitive. Thanks for the recommendations!
I am a voice over artist and have been for over 40 years and the technology in this day and age is amazing. I have 2 studio's...one in Melbourne and one in Mansfield in the high country of Victoria and I use a Rhode K2 mic with a U2A Waveterminal Sound Card and a LTO Booster thingy with a Tapco mixer and it all works very well. I use Audacity as a recording platform and send of my voice overs as WAV files...and they do the rest. Until recently I was using a Rode podcaster USB mic when travelling but somehow it was damaged and I needed a replacement urgently and I found an Audio Technica AT 20 etc etc for $168-00 at JB HiFi....mmm any way I bought it and sent some voice files to a few clients and some of the tech minded types came back and said there was little or no difference from my normal set up!! Amazing! But how good are Rode...I sent my damaged mic back for repair and without any questions etc they sent me a brand new one...now that"s customer service...I also take it away with me as a back up...like you...you can never have too many microphones!! Really enjoyed the video !!
Do you have a suggestion for a set up which would allow more microphones than one, similar budget? Thanks.
This is exactly what I was looking for. You seem like a pretty credible source, like a “been there done that and got the t shirt” kind of guy. Thank you!
Hey there my friend. Really good video and some great information. I’m really passionate about not needing to spend a fortune to get great recordings and focus on this a lot on my channel too, so always love seeing others promoting this message.
thanks my friend, just bought this exact set up including a technia headphones and i didn't knew how to use the berighenr interface hahaha now you have explained a lot in just 60 seconds so thank you. loved the proximty effect
Did this, and woah, pretty decent sound for the money spent, I got the UM2, it's good but I recommend the UMC22 if you want it to last you longer, and got a BM800 kit with mic arm and everything for around 20 dollars, all in all, around 60-70 dollars spent, and it sounds good, I plan to save up for maybe an AT2020
Clamping to the table top.
I used a couple of old credit cards at first then I got a pair of metal plates from a mate. (about 6"x4")
The plates spread the load, which helped a Lot when I moved the stand from the table to a shelf (made of chipboard).
Sounds great man. Don't worry about what everyone is saying about condenser vs dynamic. In this day and age you do what works for you. Not for other people.
You definitely do not have enough subs for the quality of this content. Looking for a mic for podcasting and YT, this is the best video I've seen! Keep up the great stuff, you've earned a sub. :)
The umc 404 is a beast with options and four xlr ports . Then the zoom p4 knocked that out of the water. It's the interface that also records, 4 xlr ports too and not much bigger than a cell phone.
Bought the Behringer UMC22 as suggested and hooked up to my TONOR Pro Condenser Microphone. Downloaded the drivers from the Behringer website as he said. RUNS PERFECT! I actually found a UMC22 kit on Amazon that included all the cables and a decent headset for under $60! Follow his instructions and you can't go wrong.
Fantastic!! Thanks for the feedback mate.
Mind posting some samples? Thank!
From where did you download the drivers mate ???
Excellent video, thanks! I was able to pick up the UMC22, a condenser mic, a boom arm, a shock mount, a pop filter, and an XLR cable for $30 on Amazon.
LINKS ?
interresting usb only on the preamp thats cool and all until you burn out the usb ports by selecting the wrong settings please with any amp read your manual so far im liking this video nice job
Thanks a million for this straightforward amazing video! I've watched so many videos about what tech to use for starting a podcast. This one by FAR is the best I've seen! Thanks again!!!!
I wish that interface had a sort of compression control where no matter where you at at the mic the sound volume remains the same so your not having to adjust the gain if you need to move around, but it sounds good anyway. Compression is a must or podcasting!
A good exposition. Can't totally agree on the dynamic microphone... It's a personal thing but condenser microphones sound sharp and over clinical to me. IMO, dynamic microphones sound much more human. They have less gain, I suppose but with my Tascam DR60 Mk2 an AKG lavalier dynamic microphone will _easily_ pick up a normal spoken voice from 10 feet away. At more usual distances (1-3 feet), it sounds superb.
I was in the Artillery in the Army and that inexpensive Mic sounds really good to me. For a 2.00 mic, I am impressed. Thanks for doing this video, I'm sure it will help a lot of people to make decisions.
"Artillery in the army" = I'm now deaf.
Your set up is like my current portable set up. I have the Behringer UMC204HD interface as I need the MIDI as well. It's comparable to the Focusrite Scarlett 2i4 (first generation) which I also have. I bought the UMC204HD because I had a job came up while I was away from home and I didn't bring my mobile set up so I had to buy a cheap one to get the work done. I bought the same stand that attaches to the table as well. I bought a Shure SM58 mic and wrapped a duvet over my head to dampen the room sound and got the job done. A large diaphragm mic would be better and cheaper but I got the SM58 new for half price and I use it for live shows instead of using the venues mic as you never know who used it and how the venue mic was used before it's been given to you so for hygienic reason I bring my own.
To say generally that condenser mics sound better than dynamics ignores the fact that most condenser mics require a properly treated room (re echo, reflections, etc) or you end up with a bunch of room noise. There is a very good reason why most podcasters use dynamic mics like the Shure SM7B, EV RE20, etc - it's not budget, it's about rejecting room noise, etc.
Thank you SOOOOO much, @GeekyNerdTechy, you solved a problem for me that I had had for ever...
im using that bm800 mic without any phantom power, i plugged it directly to my computer. still works fine
A: You have no idea how much this helped me. B: You deserve so many more followers.
Thanks Pidjen! Glad it helped mate. I plan on releasing weekly content now so the channel should grow quite a bit this year. Please share it with your friends if you can! Cheers.
i set up bm 800 + umc202hd + xlr but i don't have the quality that you showed at 10:30. it has a lot of noise and its volume is low. when i cut some frequencies i get rid of the noise but i still have to be so close to the mic and speak loudly in order to be heard properly. what do you think i did wrong. do you have any suggestions?
Right so i had the same set up WAY before i watched this video and i can 110% say that this is an awesome budget set up i have had it for 1 and a half years and it still sounds good, I am upgrading mics but keeping the same interface and the only reason i am upgrading is bc i want a slightly better sounding mic so I have nice audio for youtube
Sound quality is very professional. If I ever start a podcast I'll use that microphone for sure.
DIY pro-tip: If you don't want to spring for one of those K&M pop filters (really, they're not THAT expensive), you can stretch a pair of pantyhose over a wire coat hanger. It'll look like crap, and be kind of a pain to position (read: have fun figuring out how to attach it in front of the mic), but at least you saved a couple bucks.
That is incredible audio for such a budget setup, especially for less than a Blue Mic by itself. I had no idea.
For about $45 online, there's the Samson Q2U. A USB dynamic microphone that can be plugged into your PC/laptop without picking up the noise of a condenser mic and less set up time.
Excellent video, very useful, I'd say the best product review I've seen in a while, helping to get things done for a non-professional rather than showing off toys. Thank you.
Thank you! I'll be making the dream happen with way less cash spent after watching. Great video, obviously made by an audio nerd the quality is terrific.
Thanks a lot Susan I really appreciate the kind words.
Sm57 with a windscreen and a little EQ is basically a SM7B tone.
I accidentally bought the umc22 and really like it: I especially like the front-mounted XLR. I also have a universal audio arrow 2x4, which is higher quality but it's overkill and much more expensive and less portable and harder to use! And I'll never use the built-in DSP since I do everything "in the box" in my DAW....
I like how he says not to use a dynamic mic because it "will sound terrible" but updates the gear list in the description to recommend a XM8500 (a dynamic microphone)
Great sugestions thank you! Will this be the same for a 2 person podcast or would you recommend getting something different? Does that interface come with two inputs?
Get a interface with at least 2 XLR inputs and dynamic mics
I wonder.... you did mention in the beginning, that we shouldn't use that special looking microfones with the round or flat head, now you recommend in 2020 the Behringer XM8500 ?
Or do I get something wrong here?
BM800 mic will do a good job on speaking voice, however, keep this mic close to your mouth because it is a noisy mic with a hiss easily noticeable. Also it's highs are good but week in the mid and low ranges with some distortion as well. I wouldn't use it for acoustic instruments or any recording at distance.
A double layer of bubble warp under the bottom of the mic stand takes care of a lot of the problem with noise. Having a minimum of discipline that keeps you from touching the table is even more effective.
I have that exact mic right now, but i plug it into my pc instead of an audio interface. It sounds really bad when plugged into the pc. so im getting that audio interface that you have showcased soon. Thanks for this, now my mic wont sound static.
I have the BM-800 and the ATH M20X's, now to get this sound interface
forget about the microphone, tell me where can i buy your voice ?
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So basically he can't compliment men anymore?
Haha thank you!
@@xQcee what are you 12?
Dude. That voice is very budget friendly. A crappy mic would sound golden
This is wonderful! Thorough vid. You aswered lots of questions that I didn't know I'd have. Thank you, sir!
That's one advantage of the Behringer over the Focusrite. Focusrite just turns the input red when clipping, which is bad news for colorblind people. Also, my PC *came* with ASIO drivers inbuilt.
Well done. Thank you for the information and not making so Techy that newbies like me can understand...Bravo Sir
Thanks. Is a newbie I'm now clear of my next purchase.
Despite its driver issues (you really need to dig up the legacy Behringer drivers in lieu of the ASIO4ALL), the UM2 and UMC22 do the trick. And these cheap Chinese condensers like the BM800 or the equivalent Neewer NW700 and NW800 are much better than they should be for so little money. That said, I think a less sensitive dynamic mic is more kind to one's speaking voice and of course tends to not pick up as much room tone. I think the Behringer XM8500 is awesome, and it doesn't cost much more than the Chinese condensers. The industry standard Shure and Rode mics are cool, but pricey. I really think some skilful post-processing can polish spoken voice recorded with serviceable but much cheaper mics.
the best ever video that explains everythingggggggg wow, things that i didnt thing i ever needed if i get a mic thanks a llot ordering right away👍🏼
the mic stand you said No to: i have one, and i use it for an iPhone camera stand. so my Sony a99 is my main camera, but i get that alternative view from the iPhone on the mic stand. it gives me a lot of flexibility (and you are right: lousy for an actual mic; transfers every noise on the desk).
Awesome Video, really helped me narrow down what I should be getting to get the job done. Thanks a million!
I would recommend the Fame Studio CM2, wich is 33€ in Europe. Its the cheapest large diaphragm-Microphone that exists.
YEAH ,,, now that's what I'm talking about !!! Dam that's the best commercial iv'e EVER seen !!! Shout out from the great white north Hollywoodnorth here from Canada !!!!
Excellent video. Perfect 👌 solution in 13 minutes at the perfect budget. Well explained thanks 🙏
I have the umc404hd version of this interface, it's really flexible and I use it for everything now. Stereo micing, recording from my dj mixers, every day pc/gaming use, just anything really. I haven't even tapped all of it's capabilities yet as I have yet to try out the insert effect channels. All that for a device I got for 90 bucks on sale, it's hard to beat.
So, I'm completely new to this and looking at getting a budget setup like this. I want to do interviews and things ok my podcast, do they make a double mic interface or would I just have to get double of everything?
I have a behringer umc204hd, it has 2 microphone inputs (xlr input) and it's relatively cheap, just a little bit more than the one mentioned in the video (at least in Slovakia).
I didn't try any microphone with it yet, but from what i tested (midi and audio playback) i recommend it.
@@matusstefanec5217 thank you very much!
The Behringer XM8500 Microphone is great. Record your voice and a speaker cab too.
could tracer pro studio sound get better if i get a phantom power supply to it? It's an cardioid mic
I too have exactly the same interface and microphone. But I am not getting the signal.🤔🤔 I am using XLR to 3.5 mm Jack which is connected to 6.5mm extension Jack. Is this why the microphone not producing signal. ? Do I need to purchase the same cable u are using
Whata fantastic video , I really appreciate the information and the format in which it was presented . Great job . I look forward to hearing / watching more from you .
Completely disagree about the mic type reccomendation. If you do not have an acoustically treated room the SM58 clone or other dynamic will deliver the best rejection of room reflections. A large diaphragm is far more sensitive and gives a ton of room tone and reverb. They are awesome if you have sound treated room. They deliver the "bathroom recording effect" if your room is a standard room.
lumpyren totally agree with you.
What mic do you recommend?
I fell for the condenser mic issue as well. While they are GREAT if you can eliminate ALL noise, you will be forever chasing noise from your broadcast/recording if you are in anything short of a perfectly quiet room. I got a nice condenser mic, and in ideal situations it simply ROCKS! But I moved to a dynamic mic ..... as most top end podcasts use as well as radio stations. Their ability to cancel ambient noise is crucial and what is truly needed for this type of use. And to be honest, the dynamic mics he showed were a poor example of what is available for broadcast/podcast use.
This was clear and concise. Perfect video👌🏽
Great video. I have tried all those things and what you put together is a great option. For me and my style of videos and podcasting came up with different equipment. I had your set up and I used the dynamic mic due to I have a noisy computer. I ended up using a Tascam-DR5x and a Pop Lapel condenser mic.. For me it works great for my style of on the fly audio. This is also about the same price point as an option.
Thanks for sharing your tip!
Thanks for this video! I need some basic sound equipment to start my podcasting. Your Aussie links are super helpful.
Only if you are really desperate and nothing else on the shelves you will buy a Behringer product no matter price..! Opinion got proven through the years of using all kinds of audio equipment. For that price and more reliable, the same range I would recommend Scarlet from Focusrite, combined with cond. mic. And they got a pretty neat one comes with kit + headphones while having a built-in phantom power (+48 V) for condensers too. The new model 2i2's to 2i4's have midi in/out as well as usb so you can use your DAW, midi instruments, etc all in one unit. Still, I would be using any other type rather than usb. p.s. Yep... Overhead mics for a drum set or amp.... :)
I don't know why so many people recommend condenser microphones for these budget videos knowing damn well the person on this budget doesn't have a properly treated room.
Exactly. Dynamic mics will be the better, and smarter, option for most people starting out.
You don't need a treated room to use a condenser microphone. I've recorded about 5 albums that had air play for local artists and it's fine as long as you have the mic in a good position. The room wasn't treated in this video and it sounded fine. I shoot a podcast twice a month in this room as well = no problems at all. Food for thought.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy My room isn't treated either. The condensor mic picks up a lot of crap that a dynamic mic wouldn't and a fair amount is preventable by spending thousands on audio treatment.
@@Sov92 If you're running the gain high or have a lot of ambient noise it can be a problem but I've got my mic position pretty well sorted. There's little to no background noise on this video for example even with the cheap mic 😀
I see all sorts of DIY soundproof booth options online, not as good but at least there are ways to cut the noise, even heard of people using doonas or pillow forts with decent results
BM-800 kits that include both windsock and pop filter, as well as a scissor arm and shock mount are very common as a boxed bundle. Often not much more than the microphone, and usually cheaper than buying the mic and arm seperately.
What would you suggest for adding a second microphone for interview style podcasts? Thank you Sir.
You just need to find an audio interface with more than one XLR/Microphone Input. Simple as that.
Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 or the PreSonus
@@raleighdentcompany yeds but those are very expensive you could use a behringer umc202hd
I liked the "Higher Quality Microphone Alternatives" section, performed a search and found an "inexpensive" alternative to the HQ alternatives - Superlux E205, I took the non-USB version.
Very Good...enjoyed that info. Can't believe that mike sounds so good!
I would say dynamic mics are especially better for podcasting, especially if you have more than one host.
I can't find a better sounding one for a lower price. I got my mic for $2.00 lol
I could likely get flamed here for even mentioning this, but I've been looking at reviews for a Fifine mic that's about on par with a Yeti. These are USB mics and don't require the preamp. While your setup sounds wonderful, I really don't notice "that" much difference between yours and a $30-$50 Fifine, at least for voice. Yours is a better setup, no doubt about it. But would most listeners really discern the difference? I don't think I would under casual listening. In a direct A/B comparison, or listening closely, perhaps. The differences are subtle, and when listening for content, not quality, I wouldn't notice at all. I welcome your viewers' honest feedback. I understand you want to say USB is crap, yadda yadda yadda. Honestly, I personally don't hear a massive difference. Nor do I feel most people would really notice or care. That's why I want your honest opinions, not flames, please.
10:42 I want to correct you (based on my understanding of course).That thing is not actually meant to be a pop filter. I mean sure, it can help with plosives, but it's more of a wind muff/screen which is meant to block out any sort of wind noise you get into your microphone. Overall great video nonetheless and now im inspired to buy that microphone and setup. Great video and thank you!
Hey Shane, I'd like to have a "mobile recording unit" that i can take it with me and do interviews outside of the "studio". Which audio interface would you recommend buying that has (at least) two input, and what XLR mics would you go for if you are on a budget - so Shure and Seinnheiser is out of the question, and I don't really like the BlueJet mic everyone is raving about - it's too.... bulky and flashy for me. I have MacBook and I use Audacity for recording and editing at the moment. Thanks for your input on this.
Not Shane, obviously, but: if you want a really mobile unit, then Zoom H4n is a good a two channel recorder. It's a bit more expensive (at around 200€ here, so probably around that price range in USD as well). If you don't mind schlepping a laptop with you, then apparently Behringer makes a two channel version of that U-Phoria, at around 70€.
Behringer also makes ok cheap large diaphragm microphones.
I also use mainly Audacity, but I'm thinking about using Reaper. It's packed with features and is also free. The license for it isn't much either. But yeah, my main point would be Zoom H4n or if you need more channels, Zoom H6 [it has 4 XLR inputs and phantom for all of them, with changeable mic capsules (comes with stereo and omni capsules)].
I just got the Rode Podmic, which is a dynamic microphone. But it sounded great on the review videos I watched.
An extra feature I feel should be pointed out about the interface you used. The XLR port is playing dual functionality. It will also act as a 1/4 inch audio input for instruments. Extra bang for your buck.
How can i record two instruments at the same time using the second interface's channel?
Honestly... Everything you've mentioned here are amazing... Thanks 🥂🥂
U-Phoria allow for two microphones to hook up and record with two people?
That's what I'm wondering 🤔
uPhoria 204HD or 202 HD :)
Hi, would like your opinion. If you are going for "beginner/easy/cheap/not too involved," what can be better than just buying the Rode NT-USB? It comes with its own stand and pop filter, and it is made to work without needing an audio interface. I realize it is not the cheapest of all mics, but when you consider that you don't have to buy anything else, it is really not bad - plus it is high quality. Also, for beginners, its literally plug and play - totally bypassing the need for an interface and figuring out different stands, cords, and pop filters. Opinion?
Superb video! Very informative! Super useful! Thank you!
i just used a neewer mic with phantom psu and it works pretty well. With some noise cancellation and echo removal it sounds 100x better then my g430 mic does lol
Love this video. Explained everything very concisely.
However, I bought an Excelvan Mic. It has the connector you said I needed for the mic end, but the other end looks like a straight jack that I might plug into an amp or other speaker device. It does not go into any audio slot on my computer. I have two questions.
1) Should I get a different cord than the one that came with the mic and just hook it up to the UMC22 like in the video.
--==OR==--
2) Will that audio jack work in the Input slot on the UMC22?
I'm trying to figure all this out before I make my last purchases. I need to get the adjustable stand you have and the UMC22. I just need to know if I need to buy a separate cord as well.
Thanks again for the video!
If you wanna upgrade go for Yamaha ag06 or ag03
Heey, so you were dissing dynamic mics in the begining, but I see you're recommending the XM8500 which is a dynamic microphone.
Not that I mind, it's a pretty good one, 'been using one for a couple of years now, my only problem is that I cheaped out and got a lexicon alpha as an audio interface, and since the amp is weak I had to buy a separate preamp.
I'm considering going for a scarlett solo. The UMC22 does sounds appealing but does it have enough drive to use a dynamic mic with some distance? I know, not the optimum set-up but I prefer the darker coloured sound of a dynamic mic as opposed to the clear, almost metallic sound of a condenser one.
Very informative btw, cheers.
Hi Shane . Do you suggest this system for conferencing ? does it allow you to bypass a physical mixer ? . ie can you mix it via software alone and send the finished sound to an active speaker ?
Great video, learned a lot. I was about to drop some serious cash for my first set up but after watching this I don't think I have to in order to get the sound I want. Thanks.
Thanks Romeo. Judging from the comments a lot of people got this setup and it works great for them. Many thanks.
I just found your channel and it is really informative. Do you reccomend another cheap podcasting set up for the end of 2019 ? I am attempting to record a facebook audio livestream and also a mobile podcast using my cellphone . Is this possible? Thanks for your time .
This will work but upgrade the mic. I have several guides on my channel now at different prices. There's a new video in the next two days with a killer cheap mic that rocks!
Hi, May I know what brand is the microphone? There are a few brand with the model BM800 on Amazon.
Hi! I'm trying to record a podcast for two people and possibly add in a third microphone for an in-house guest speaker. Can the sound card/audio interface you're showing here, be used to hook up extra mic's or do you recommend another one that does?
Get a 4 microphone in sound card to be safe. You can record all the voices to separate audio tracks and then mix it down.
I rrrrreeeeaaaallllyyyyy recommend using lapel mics instead of table-top studio condenser mics. All you're going to get from a big condenser mic is limitless background noise. It's not necessary to build yourself a sound-proof studio, either--just use a lapel mic. You can download a FREE app called Prism Live Studio and go live on RUclips. 10 bucks for a lapel mic (or Power Dewise sells a nice noise-canceling two-mic "interview" kit for around 30 bucks) and you're good to go. Everybody thinks they need to sound like Darth Vader's badass cousin through a big tabletop mic, but no listener is going to notice any real difference between a tabletop condenser mic and a lapel mic.
Hello the bm800 available locally here in my country is XLR to 3.5mm jack. Would it still be good for this build in the video?
Hi. Thanks for making this video. I need to use the UK links to order stuff. However, when I click on the BM800 link, it takes me to page with a number of different BM800 mics, each with a different manufacturer name. Are these all the same? Is there one that is the original? Is there a best one? Thanks.
Great video! How about for multiple users ? Is there a Behringer unit that you can plug multiple mice into or do you have to get one separately for each mic?
Here you go - geekynerdytechy.com/audio-interfaces-for-podcasting/
I loved this video. It's straight to the point and very informative. I'm starting to get into audio and I'm definitely subscribing to you. One thing I'd like to ask is, now it might be a stupid question, but I just don't know so I'll rather ask: Is this kind of a setup also usable when it comes to voice acting? I want to more or less copy what you did here with this video because it sounds amazing in my opinion, especially for entry. What I'm wondering is if certain things in this should be switched out for something more suitable or are the two (VA / podcast) the same thing at the end of the day?
You could always go for a better microphone. One I am enjoying a lot lately is the Rode Procaster and Rode NT1. The Procaster is a great mic for also blocking out ambient noise and the NT1 is an awesome sounding condenser mic.