It's funny how fast you accustom to the bad audio quality, at first you are like "It's so bad I won't be able to watch it to the end!" but after a minute you completely forgot about it. I wonder if the same goes for framerates on monitors, I could save a lot of money going back to 60 Hertz when I buy the next screen in the future.
@@Fergesslich You will adapt to it, so you would forgot about it in your mind, but your brain is seeing 120hz and taking it to advantage to faster response time. It has it's advantage, if you have enough pc power to play in 120 Hz (1080 is enough for almost all competitive.) games) But 60 hz is really enough for power efficient gaming.
i don't think 120hz is a gimmick, it seriously help me a lot when gaming especially a game that involve a lot of movement like overwatch . In my opinion if you can afford 120hz definitely go for it, it absolutely will give you advantage on gaming
Because Apple want control upgrades, not by 3rd party. They have very sensitive guarantee service. If you do it yourself, it will void guarantee. I think Apple got tired of many 3rd party upgrades and repairs in earlier times, but also less money income. With such very closed systems, it work as money milk for them. Only Apple may repair it but we know repair costs are very high. It's just not very fair, but that is choice of Apple.
I've touched that power supply a couple times and not died. Nasty shock though. Leave the screws loose when putting the board back in then plug items in to each of the ports once thats done then tighten the screws. The alignment holes on the case are so you can use two black sticks to align the strip properly, don't do it by eye sight. Use blue painters tape to fix the display into place on the bottom edge to act as a hinge while you test it before closing it up. This will help with the alignment as well.
Thanks Dave, Years, hmm In that case they would use capacitance for backup and no need to use dry/wet cell battery What if when it's running pull the power. The hold power button for 10 seconds or so Then leave for 2 weeks Any links for info I wonder Time for homework :)
Well... no. Grounding yourself is against static electricity. Not residual current discharge from the capacitors. One way to prevent death is to put the left hand in your trouser pocket while messing around. This way the current doesn't cross your heart muscles.
FYI if you didn't know yet. The Federal Trade Comission (FTC) sent letters to 8 large companies for having those warranty void if broken stickers, so if you are in the US, you could probably go all yolo, and ignore those stickers, and still get warranty. Of course you would probably have to sue them for warranty but it's illegal now in the US. (It was passed/ enacted on the 10th of April this year) Edit: For all of those "I am very smart" people who are talking about the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (Bound to be someone). Yes I know that it has been out for a long time, but this was the first time in a while, that the act was acted upon. In the past, the federal agencies never enforced this (Mostly because lawsuits are expensive af), but now that we have the FTC going out and saying stuff about this, (some) companies are actually following the act. (I don't know if any company is still doing this bs in the US, don't quote me on this.)
Except Linus & his company are based in Canada. So a ruling in the US doesnt necessarily mean anything if you're in a completely different country instead of the US.
+LordIron Residence doesn't matter, purchasing location does. But yes, they probably bought it in Canada. It's just that Linus was like "So you US citizens out there, reach out to your local senate member" or something along those lines. Thought it was fitting to bring it up.
And solder in the CPU and RAM while you're at it. Actually, you should solder the board to the chassis, just to be on the safe side. Should we also solder the chassis to the desk?
@@TooFurious4 they still need to solder the battery and keyboard THEN they would require you to buy a new device if the headphone jack fails.. oh wait, they already do that with iPhones.
@@rdvgrd6 troll? Calm down. In my university we use almost purely iMacs for editing, they're on fucking fire, depending on the model, of course, but in many cases they're seriously hot.
Now I know why you *really* bought the Red 8K cameras... ...back up and replay the video to see where the things were connected before you pulled 'em :-)
"there are two different kinds of screws, you need to make sure you put the right ones in the right holes..." Here's a time stamp if u wanna hear that in person ; ) 10:13
"They clearly stated it at the beginning of the video" Yes, which is clearly what I was talking about within the context of many videos lately having audio problems. Around the time of the TechSmartt Studio Tour, that one plus a few videos just don't have the subjects mic'd up at all for some bizarre reason, then this - ergo "lately" and not just this video.
Hey Linus. I was thinking a little bit about latency. Gamers always say they want the minimum of latency and deny using stuff like wireless mouse and keyboard and mouse. Some say gsync causes latency and what not. So it would e really great to have some up to date input on what causes how much of latency. Like wired vs wireless and no sync vs gsync vs freesync and stuff.
If you want to know about latency stuff check out "battlenonsene" channel, he has some good analysis on most of the things you mention. This video is about gsync vs freesync: watch?v=mVNRNOcLUuA
Don't forget, the original Mac Pro was completely tooless, and had handles and grip points in it to make upgrading and repairing it as easy as possible. And on the new computers..... Not so much
It also had a killer case. I've got a Power Max G5 (pretty much the same case) that I picked up for $5. Ripped all the guts out of it immediately, to cleanse it of it's apple-ness. In the process of modding it into an ATX gaming rig.
typing this on my "cheesegrater" right now. I don't like the trashcan. I don't like this non-upgradable nonsense. How are they going to compete? I'm seriously considering buying a PC running Linux for my work.
@@reptilespantoso The cheesegrater was an amazing design, I wish other companies would pick up on it and start making machines like this now that Apple hasn't been in a long time. HPE kinda does, but they are not even close to interested in any consumer or prosumer customers.
Yes, agree; I feel it's near perfect. They could do a smaller version of that for the next gen. instead of a black plastic thing. Make it the same gunmetal grey as the iMac Pro, and it makes sense in the line. Since most of my gear is 19" rack size (pro audio studio) I wouldn't mind a rack unit mac pro either (like their servers of 10 years ago). I think no one would complain if they get that right. Something inside me doesn't want to fork over 5K for a plastic box. There are very nice looking 19" racks for the "design conscious" users. We'll see. Hope you have a nice day.
Upgrade iMac Pro: step 1: Break iMac Pro step 2: make video about how Apple refuses to fix even though you are willing to pay to have it fixed step 3: have Apple Fanboys completely miss the point of Previous Video step 4: Bring in Apple basher / repairer extraordinaire Luis Rossman to fix it step5: start back where you wanted to be at before step 1
bladudemovies the logic board is installed vertical in iMac so the liquid metal on the pc could possibly slide onto the mother boarding and damage it. Liquid metal would have given the iMac much better performance but it would have been too risky
hailikefood at the beginning of the video 1:25 they turned of the expensive audio equipment so they probably had to use default camera audio. Hence the lower quality compared to the first minute of the video and the mic picking up sound you wouldn't hear normally due to directional sound equipment.
Aluminum cookware and Apple equivalent hardware: ~500 dollars Aluminum Apple computer: 5000 dollars The people buying this shit need an upgrade to their brains.
Makes you wonder if they give apple authorized repair shops and genius bars a cage or cover to prevent that or if they're honestly so against anyone ever repairing their stuff, even their own people, that they'll risk electrocuting those who attempt to do so.
You know what I'm getting into making my own PC (it's gonna take ages to get all the bits together - only have the case at the moment, waiting for the motherboard and Blu-Ray drive in the post) but I have an old iMac, the thicc ones with the disc drive and...it's old tech. It literally cannot be updated because the hardware is too old. So ripping it apart and upgrading the innards is a fucking good idea. Easier said than done, sure, but it's on the to-do list right now. Thanks Linus (I'll do it after I've done my PC though)
I'm pretty sure it would be less stressful to be a color-blind bomb disposal technician who has to find and cut the one blue wire in a sea of red wires on a nuclear device that is going to explode in thirty seconds and possibly take out all of New York City.
Also, if it's just red and blue, you could find it by finding the one gray that's a different shade of gray than the rest. Wait, was I suppose to say spoiler alert?
Not the first time they didn't use a retention mechanism for the CPU. The original Nahalem Mac Pros didn't have them, either, and the dual socket versions didn't even have the IHS on either of the Xeons that were in them.
"who cares THAT MUCH about a small reduction in size?" Look at a Mac from 2010. Look at a Mac from today. Small reductions in size every year add up over the course of many years.
So basically you can go through triple the work to do an upgrade that would have taken less than 20 minutes on a PC, and get a machine that is capable as a PC costing half the price...
Pretty sure Linus review said that it would cost the same amount of money to make the same PC, also it would naturally be harder to work on sense it is an AIO
The 3D Printing Corner if you can find the parts and the 5k monitor cheaper, the yea you can do it for half the price. But since you don’t anything about pricing and technology, no it wouldn’t cost half the price.
didnt he say windows was being a bitch ? and since he was gonna upgrade the cpu on the mac to work on w/e it was he was also gonna do the ram ? lmao we now pc is the best but that explains why he upgraded the mac in the first place was because of windows and if he would went for the same build on a pc and just installed ios software woulda been more exppensive cause he woulda needed psu mobo and whatnot lmao
20 Minutes!???Maybe if you live in slow motion. 5 at the max!Open side door, unscrew heatsink, replace cpu, replace paste, screw back on heatsink. -Take out old ram sticks, replace with new ones- add the extra ram sticks. Close side door. Done
I do these repairs for a living, and you did a nice job. That said, Linus, you are SO lucky that screen didn’t fall off while you went about adding on the peripherals, plugging it in and starting it up etc. If you’re going to do that With the iMacs standing up, you need to at least put some temporary tape at the top and bottom. The last thing you want is that screen falling off after you’ve gotten all your work accomplished. If that happened, you would’ve potentially damaged the Logicboard, display and cables.
De-lidding the CPU to replace the stock TIM would help with temps, but I'm not sure it's worth making a video on this channel. There have been way too many liquid metal videos lately. Plus the iMac Pro is far from the worst Mac when it comes to thermals.
Hi Linus, Couple of notes here when opening retina iMacs. 1. During the process of removing the screen/putting it back on or testing you should do 2x horizontal bits of tape at the bottom of the screen and main housing so you can use it a pivot point to assist when removing the screen/putting it back on. During testing, you should also put a bit of tape on the top half and over onto the back to not risk the display falling off while testing. 2. The strips have holes in them to use the point of an ESD safe 'black stick' in order to make lining the strips up a piece of cake. 3. During the removal of the screen the bottom strip can be cleanly removed by pulling on the tabs at the end and peeling it off sideways in order to detach the screen 4. When pulling the board out, you need to remove the bottom screws along the base of the rear housing which makes life FAR easier when removing/installing the logic board. I hope this helps!
Once again as I said in the previous video... Disassemble/reassemble it with the back of the iMac to the table. Then you can set the screen on it and connect all the wires without needing three hands and you can test it with the screen laying on it or you can use packaging tape to hold it in place if you want to stand it up. But don't disassemble an iMac with it standing up. That's asking for another broken screen. I was just waiting for that screen to fall off if you bumped the table hard enough.
This should technically be cooler assuming you’re not doing extremely cpu / all threads 100% intensive tasks which barely exist, even professionally (almost everything depends on gpu acceleration/computing these days), so for most tasks users would do, the stronger CPU or one with more modern architecture would barely have to work to do similar tasks, aka never get close to hot enough to cause cooling issues, if you were going to use it for some strange reason that you need all 8 cores at a 100% for hours, you’re a fucking idiot for making that modification to begin with. It’s far more likely if there are cooling issues, it would be the GPU going at 100% for hours rendering something, the cooling for the GPU in this setup looks absolutely terrible for prolonged rendering work
Also to add on to the previous point, if you’re an idiot who would run CPU rendering or similar work on that instead of the gpu, you could throttle your cpu down so it never peaks above 80% loads to manage temperatures.. although like I said you have to be an idiot because that would make the upgrade for this use case pointless
Taran, I'm really impressed with how well you get audio on a normal video. You don't realize the difference it makes until you're stuck with audio like this. Good content though!
Wait a minute. The encryption chip is meant to protect your data in case of theft (thief needs password to login, can't get the ssd's desoldered yada yada). That's sad enough already, because when your motherboard dies, all data is gone. But why doesn't it even allow you to put new storage in? It should be quite simple to wipe the disk and install whatever you want encrypted by that separate chip. It should cause no "security" issues to allow that. So I guess it's just Apple trolling again.
The T2 chip does more than just protect from theft. It controls audio, microphones, system management, safe boot, and the webcam. With the webcam it's supposed to have a better image processor for better capture and FaceTime output. But yes, having your machine bricked would suck, but you can turn off the T2 encryption
The chip does not protect from theft, the fact that you need a whole case of tools and an online guide just to open it, let alone get to the ssd’s. That’s what protects your data.
You're not going to get it repaired. The moment you bring it into an Apple store they're gonna say fuck you go buy another one because we are Apple and you are locked into our closed ecosystem. Those kernel panicks? They're your fault. Any and all errors are always the user's fault. Give us your $$$$$.
It is not about the paste losing its properties but Apple using mediocre paste in the first place. Some time ago I replaced the factory GPU paste on my Saphhire R9 390 Nitro against Arctic MX-4 and the temperature got even slightly higher, probably because I applied a little bit too much and because the generic one was extremely good already! But other manufacturers tend to not use the high end stuff so I would find it interesting to know if the iMac GPU (which was not changed) would be cooler now with the new paste.
For the test-boot, don't leave the panel loose. Just wrap some painter's tape around the edges to secure the display panel to the chassis. Cheap insurance, easily removed and just takes a moment to do.
Only one major issue, it’s antennae not antennas. lol great vid. Just makes me more and more passed off at Apple ignoring what the prosumer typically wants in an easily upgradable desktop machine. Which is why I’m so reluctant to give up on my 5,1 Mac Pro. I just wonder if the 1080 ti is worth it and if the new 20 series cards will even work in one. I’m not a Mac gamer though. I’m wondering for 3D applications like blender and cinema 4D and after effects/premiere pro/photoshop applications.
If I wanted a high-end desktop Mac, I'd build a two-CPU Mac Pro from 2009-2012. Yeah, you're stuck on Gulftown processors, but you can get up to 12 cores in it, and GPU options are plentiful, even a 1080Ti will do. With a max capacity of 128GB of RAM and extra drive bays (not to mention PCIe slots) out the wazoo, performance can basically match that of the trash can Mac Pro while only missing a few features (namely Thunderbolt) while having vastly more configuration and storage options. This is actually exactly what I plan to do, because I have a bunch of older Macs (G3/G4/G5 Power Macs plus a couple of iMacs G5 and newer) that I like to use for older stuff but I'd really like something that can actually run a modern Mac OS version. I can't see spending the money on a trash can given the minor CPU performance increase, and while the iMac Pro isn't actually that bad a machine, it's way more money than I'm willing to spend, and I kind of hate the form factor.
Stay in the 2012 range. I've been looking and only thee 2012 5,1 models seem to even support DDR3. The others seem to only support PC2 Memory from what I'm finding. Also, be careful. I found a 2009 iMac that was firmware hacked to read as a 5,1 as well.
The 2010-2012 models are all exactly the same. The 2009 is also the same, with the 5,1 firmware they're identical. However, the mounting of the CPU in the 2009 model requires removal of the integrated heat spreader if you choose to upgrade. That's not a problem for me as I can easily do that myself. All of them are DDR3, as they're all the same socket.
Ofek,, I don't need one. I was just curious. And I'll take Adam's words for it as I'm not a mac expert by any means. Just going off what I found on eBay and old wayback machine pages from Apple's site.
The 2009 Mac Pro is identical to the 2012 Mac Pro. It doesn't just show that its a 5,1 it gives it all the same software compatibility. It is literally just a bios update (Source: I own one)
Cose strane trovate sul web He would have to drill a hole, lead out the water pipes at the back and attach the cooler to the foot, for example. There would be no room for that in the iMac itself.
@@MMAPGaming I don't agree with your view on the audio issues but hats off to you and your channels ! Not a fan personally of Minecraft but yeah looks like you work pretty hard at it *tips hat
thanks David. I actually love this channel because of unpredictable and humanlike things as this. Mistakes and grate interactions makes the world go round!
For the killer power supply (PSU): 1. Wear rubber glows. 2. Discharge the capacitors using a regular light bulb (preferably one that was designed for 230V) - connect the bulb to two wires - one wire goes to ground, with the second one touch one by one all the metal leads of the big capacitors and all the heat-sinks as well. 3. Please, use a $5 multimeter to double check if there is still some voltage around. 4. Now you are safe to lick your PSU parts, have fun!
Replacing the iMac Pro's CPU doesn't look too different from replacing the CPU in the 2013 trashcan Mac Pro, which I did a couple of weeks ago. The Mac Pro CPU upgrade was overall fairly easy (with about a third the screws of an iBook G3 hard-drive replacement), but I had a lot of trouble in the last stretch: I couldn't get the CPU bracket out because some of the motherboard standoffs had come off, and by turning the screw, I was turning the standoff and not the screw. Thankfully, I got the bracket off, and had no trouble from then on putting the standoffs and bracket back with the new CPU. I upgraded my trashcan Mac Pro from a 3.7 GHz quad-core to a 3 GHz TEN-CORE CPU, and I'm extremely happy with how it turned out. :D
Linus: That Imac screen replacement took forever, lets never go through that process again
Also linus: Yo guys lets do it again
I was thinking the same damn thing. It was a big deal in the tech community and now he's going out and doing it again.
It takes 365 days for a year. It takes 365 likes for a sub. (Seriously look at the likes!!!)
Exactly what i was thinking. Or hes gunna touch that power supply D:
Your scratch audio is better than some folks' regular audio.
Nice upgrade. Grats on not breaking it. ;-)
It's funny how fast you accustom to the bad audio quality, at first you are like "It's so bad I won't be able to watch it to the end!" but after a minute you completely forgot about it. I wonder if the same goes for framerates on monitors, I could save a lot of money going back to 60 Hertz when I buy the next screen in the future.
@@Fergesslich You will adapt to it, so you would forgot about it in your mind, but your brain is seeing 120hz and taking it to advantage to faster response time. It has it's advantage, if you have enough pc power to play in 120 Hz (1080 is enough for almost all competitive.) games) But 60 hz is really enough for power efficient gaming.
i don't think 120hz is a gimmick, it seriously help me a lot when gaming especially a game that involve a lot of movement like overwatch . In my opinion if you can afford 120hz definitely go for it, it absolutely will give you advantage on gaming
I believe the scratch audio was only in the first part of the video, the main part of the video where he does the work was using the proper audio.
it ain't
WTF you left the best part of the assembly porn out, taking the strips off the adhesive and finalizing the build.
@@Neaxtec he said he was gonna use it for something
@@Dave102693 pretty sure he doesn't need all that ram for it
makes sensee
That clip of Anthony breaking the screen was 99% likely to appear :-)
Why cant I find that video... :/
@@mreggbird It's called 'Apple REFUSED To Fix Our iMac Pro!'
@@tuxido4913 that was reenacted, not the actual clip
They didn't include taking the adhesive off because they dropped the display again.
Hahahahaha
I was seriously expecting Linus to have the screen fall off after he forgot to put on the adhesive strips after benchmarking.
can't drop what you aren't holding
Man from minute 17 where he put that screen on without attaching it somehow to the frame, those were the two most intensive minutes of my life.
Because Apple want control upgrades, not by 3rd party. They have very sensitive guarantee service. If you do it yourself, it will void guarantee. I think Apple got tired of many 3rd party upgrades and repairs in earlier times, but also less money income.
With such very closed systems, it work as money milk for them. Only Apple may repair it but we know repair costs are very high.
It's just not very fair, but that is choice of Apple.
I expected him to drop it when he said "take that Anthony!"
I expected fake sparks and flame like last time.
Apple is going to watch this and think we need to make this harder
Weld ALL the things!!
Tim Cook "Let's just kill everyone who opens the system."
just add a bomb inh it when you open it the second you take off the mob it gos boom
It does kill you if you open the system!Exposed 240V Power supply right in the middle around the area they will be servicing? Heck yea
Potato IQ > Apple Genius IQ
I've touched that power supply a couple times and not died. Nasty shock though. Leave the screws loose when putting the board back in then plug items in to each of the ports once thats done then tighten the screws. The alignment holes on the case are so you can use two black sticks to align the strip properly, don't do it by eye sight. Use blue painters tape to fix the display into place on the bottom edge to act as a hinge while you test it before closing it up. This will help with the alignment as well.
Yeah same. I died when I touched it too.
Isn't there a way to discharge it first? Leave unplugged for a week or so?
@@colindoyle9876 More like years.
Thanks Dave, Years, hmm
In that case they would use capacitance for backup and no need to use dry/wet cell battery
What if when it's running pull the power. The hold power button for 10 seconds or so
Then leave for 2 weeks
Any links for info I wonder
Time for homework :)
Well... no. Grounding yourself is against static electricity. Not residual current discharge from the capacitors.
One way to prevent death is to put the left hand in your trouser pocket while messing around. This way the current doesn't cross your heart muscles.
5:09 I know of someone. 😉
I was just about to comment on that!
I was gonna say that!
And as always
Stay snazzy
Give this comment all the likes!
Damn you! I was just about to say this .. well stay snazzy ;)
FYI if you didn't know yet. The Federal Trade Comission (FTC) sent letters to 8 large companies for having those warranty void if broken stickers, so if you are in the US, you could probably go all yolo, and ignore those stickers, and still get warranty. Of course you would probably have to sue them for warranty but it's illegal now in the US. (It was passed/ enacted on the 10th of April this year)
Edit: For all of those "I am very smart" people who are talking about the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (Bound to be someone). Yes I know that it has been out for a long time, but this was the first time in a while, that the act was acted upon. In the past, the federal agencies never enforced this (Mostly because lawsuits are expensive af), but now that we have the FTC going out and saying stuff about this, (some) companies are actually following the act. (I don't know if any company is still doing this bs in the US, don't quote me on this.)
The key word is: "probably"
I'm saying probably, because I'm not a legalese expert. I only saw the news article okay, why you got to be so rude. q.q =P =( )=
Except Linus & his company are based in Canada. So a ruling in the US doesnt necessarily mean anything if you're in a completely different country instead of the US.
It most likely does as Apple is based in California.
+LordIron Residence doesn't matter, purchasing location does. But yes, they probably bought it in Canada. It's just that Linus was like "So you US citizens out there, reach out to your local senate member" or something along those lines. Thought it was fitting to bring it up.
(Apple watched this): We need to solder the screen on next time......
And solder in the CPU and RAM while you're at it. Actually, you should solder the board to the chassis, just to be on the safe side. Should we also solder the chassis to the desk?
Nah, just cover everything with black epoxy.
Or superglue
Just rivet everything while your at it
better yet, condense the whole board into a single chip.
Now the cpu and ram will be soldered for the next Apple products
____ you actually called it, newest MacBooks have soldered cpu gpu ram ssd
@@NuclearAmouri Are you for real? Like, WTF Apple?
@@TooFurious4 they still need to solder the battery and keyboard THEN they would require you to buy a new device if the headphone jack fails.. oh wait, they already do that with iPhones.
most laptops have solder cpu's and gpus,
@@NonsensicalSpudz And that makes Apple any better how?
Thank you David 😅
The words saving and 128GB of RAM dont work in the same sentence
"There's no saving if you buy 128GB of RAM"
Works pretty well..
"Billy spent his money on 128GB of RAM instead of saving a dozen African children." That works too!
If I downgrade my next build to 128GB, I'll certainly be saving. :P
with 128GB of RAM i can run all procceses at full speed at the same time, i am going to be saving so much time
Apple's basic R&D goal: Try to make upgrades and upgrade approaches as hard and dangerous (open power supply) as possible.
Exactly. How many more cents would it have cost to shield that PSU?
It's fine. If somebody got electrocuted by that, I'm sure Apple would sue his relatives for the bad publicity caused by his death... And win.
So freakin depressing, yet so so accurate. And people wonder why Apple gets that evil reputation sometimes.
they are not meant to be opened, so why would you care if theres Cage or not? extra material and weight...
@@ivanoxx it is still going to be opened by employees doing repairs etc
I can imagine Linus getting angry:
"OH... so you DID cut the audio!?"
**lobs an RTX Ti at Brandon**
how a do love a good rtx ti
I am very sure I can kill anyone with an rog strix 2080ti
@The time lapse channel Linus would have to figure out how to water cool him then.
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brandon wouldn't have allowed this, it was a new guy
I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone thanking David, cmon guys he stuffed up the audio that's worth a big thanks!
I mean.... You might as well not put the fan on. Not like it kicks in before the thing is on fire.
No that's just the laptops
No, it's macOS. Apple can't make a fan curve to save their life...
Ali Abdallah the cooling is fine on iMacs it’s not MacBook pros. But thanks for your troll.
@@rdvgrd6 troll? Calm down. In my university we use almost purely iMacs for editing, they're on fucking fire, depending on the model, of course, but in many cases they're seriously hot.
Mad Mens Den he was pretty calm tho.I believe old imacs on new macOS tend to overhit a bit but nothing serious
Dropping it on the floor in the beginning of the video is how you know it's an authentic Linus video.
Certificate of Authenticity
Now I know why you *really* bought the Red 8K cameras...
...back up and replay the video to see where the things were connected before you pulled 'em :-)
How do you have Ltt logo on your name?
@@rotaryrevor4756 He has the LTT membership
@@rotaryrevor4756 LttLogoStore.com
Now it's 12K
@@adarshjkalathil this comment is 2 years old. are you expecting dad to come home
Pretty sure Apple will see this video and solder all the components on the next iMac model
or update the OS so it detects any tampered components, locking you out of your over thousand dollars purchase
Shathefaa-a
Might as well pot the whole thing in epoxy!!
you know what? insurance sticker except it's the trigger to a packet of explosives
Solder the display into the body, easy!
Apple: "Hm, even the dangerous exposed power supply is not holding them back anymore?"
Next step is a PCB full of exposed 400V condensators and tripwires that will lead to shorts.
Every screw head will have a microswitch that triggers a 50,000V stun-gun wired directly to the chassis...
tere Siim.. ei expectinud sind siin
Novot siis :) Linus on üks ägedamaid ja paremaid. Teeb head asja :)
@@SiimKuusik agreed
6:11, I feel like there is some one breathing down my back from behind me!
thank you David... for the GREAT audio😂😂😂
Been having a hard time with audio lately, eh?
EposVox OMG DID YOU DRAIN THE AUDIO FLUID
"there are two different kinds of screws, you need to make sure you put the right ones in the right holes..."
Here's a time stamp if u wanna hear that in person ; ) 10:13
something he didn't mention is that you have to screw them correctly... or you will blow up the stand and the screen will bend o.0
They clearly stated it at the beginning of the video
"They clearly stated it at the beginning of the video" Yes, which is clearly what I was talking about within the context of many videos lately having audio problems. Around the time of the TechSmartt Studio Tour, that one plus a few videos just don't have the subjects mic'd up at all for some bizarre reason, then this - ergo "lately" and not just this video.
DAVID IS AWESOME!!! You totally captured Linus' fear and trepidation over everything turning up wrong again!!!
Hey Linus. I was thinking a little bit about latency. Gamers always say they want the minimum of latency and deny using stuff like wireless mouse and keyboard and mouse. Some say gsync causes latency and what not. So it would e really great to have some up to date input on what causes how much of latency. Like wired vs wireless and no sync vs gsync vs freesync and stuff.
If you want to know about latency stuff check out "battlenonsene" channel, he has some good analysis on most of the things you mention.
This video is about gsync vs freesync: watch?v=mVNRNOcLUuA
what is freesync?
@@Vinn0 It's basically Gsync but for AMD GPUs and cheaper.
thx
SunioMc and has small latency over g-sync.
19:39 THANKS DAVID
Google cloud data backup update!!?!?!?!??!
You know Linus has made you numb to what's considered overkill when you're legitimately concerned he didn't use liquid metal.
That stuff is actually terrible for your machine and on something as expensive as an iMac Pro you don't want to risk it.
How is liquid metal terrible? There's literally no downside to it unless you spill it, which you wouldn't if you weren't clumsy.
@@lilkittygirl how do you figure? If you have a stable setup, there's no issue.
@@saintfrac5360 you know linus would find a way to spill the stuff
LinusSpillTips
6:23 Man, breathing *i n t e n s i f i e s*
IKR, surprised most people have pointed this out, really bugged me
Really. Getting on my nerves.
hes dying from holding the RED
LinusTechTips: ...Cheap mods
Tim Cook: Am I a joke to you??
TechU1 Tim Cook kinda gay tbh
wasn't his name tim apple Kappa
Yes.
Synthh tim cook is for real gay, you know?
Linus: yes you are
Can't be the only one stressed out after 17:05, knowing that the display wasn't properly attached.
Arghhh my OCD. Have they stuck it on yet, or just forgotten?
Mastenk oh no your making me anxious bc I’m looking at comments while watching the vid
Don't forget, the original Mac Pro was completely tooless, and had handles and grip points in it to make upgrading and repairing it as easy as possible.
And on the new computers..... Not so much
It also had a killer case. I've got a Power Max G5 (pretty much the same case) that I picked up for $5. Ripped all the guts out of it immediately, to cleanse it of it's apple-ness. In the process of modding it into an ATX gaming rig.
they assume you are a mindless bag of dna that isnt capable of doing ANYTHING.
typing this on my "cheesegrater" right now.
I don't like the trashcan. I don't like this non-upgradable nonsense.
How are they going to compete? I'm seriously considering buying a PC running Linux for my work.
@@reptilespantoso The cheesegrater was an amazing design, I wish other companies would pick up on it and start making machines like this now that Apple hasn't been in a long time. HPE kinda does, but they are not even close to interested in any consumer or prosumer customers.
Yes, agree; I feel it's near perfect. They could do a smaller version of that for the next gen. instead of a black plastic thing. Make it the same gunmetal grey as the iMac Pro, and it makes sense in the line.
Since most of my gear is 19" rack size (pro audio studio) I wouldn't mind a rack unit mac pro either (like their servers of 10 years ago). I think no one would complain if they get that right. Something inside me doesn't want to fork over 5K for a plastic box. There are very nice looking 19" racks for the "design conscious" users.
We'll see. Hope you have a nice day.
Upgrade iMac Pro:
step 1: Break iMac Pro
step 2: make video about how Apple refuses to fix even though you are willing to pay to have it fixed
step 3: have Apple Fanboys completely miss the point of Previous Video
step 4: Bring in Apple basher / repairer extraordinaire Luis Rossman to fix it
step5: start back where you wanted to be at before step 1
Step 1 seems easy enough
Step 6: profit?
Lol.
You forgot Step 2.5: Do not let Anthony touch shit.
D-rex Not if you don't have 5 000 dollars conveniently lying around and collecting dust.
Thank you David for that awesome audio !!!
I find your lack of liquid metal disturbing.
20th like
bladudemovies the logic board is installed vertical in iMac so the liquid metal on the pc could possibly slide onto the mother boarding and damage it. Liquid metal would have given the iMac much better performance but it would have been too risky
How is it any different than most PCs of being installed vertically? Unless I'm misunderstanding something.
@@thunderfox9358 and how exactly would that have worked with any regular tower? Where the motherboard is vertical?
@@JSharpie it isn't any different
Did anyone else hear the breathing at 6:28 or was it just me?
That was me standing behind you
Yep, Linus breathing when talking, like an old school Darth Vader
Thats the camera guy
Either the camera's built-in mic is sensitive or the camera operator needs to lower their blood pressure.
hailikefood at the beginning of the video 1:25 they turned of the expensive audio equipment so they probably had to use default camera audio. Hence the lower quality compared to the first minute of the video and the mic picking up sound you wouldn't hear normally due to directional sound equipment.
The fan looks like the crazy robot from Futurama Roberto
Funny you should say that to quote Roberto after watching that I want to do some stabbing. I mean jeez apple just stop.
I thought it looked more like The Punisher skull logo.
Someone just walked into the room where I was watching this vid and thought I was watching some early 80s porn. That music though...
Breaking the iMac the second time
Is this a spoiler?
Wladimirowicz thanks for a rhetorical question
Here we go again
9:39 gotta love the continuity 👍👍👌
**forgets to glue the screen back on and drops it for a second time**
Mtb Wolf This is exactly what I was thinking the entire end of the video
19:43 - Ouch! Someone was NOT happy about the audio quality on this video…
Linus changed his shirt at 9:41
Linus, not again!
Good god, Linus! Again?!
im going waste 19 minutes of my life by watching a condensed segment of linus wasting hours of time, "upgrading a mac"
I wonder how long until Louis visits to fix it again
Hey thanks to him I can now buy an upgraded processor and never install it. Just to brag what I got because I know it's possible!
The words “Apple” and “upgrade” are not compatible.
That’s only true for the recent 5 years honestly.
What did he just do then?
Nice hairline
Aluminum cookware and Apple equivalent hardware: ~500 dollars
Aluminum Apple computer: 5000 dollars
The people buying this shit need an upgrade to their brains.
Just upgraded my 2018 iMac from 8GB to 40 GB with Corsair. Took 30 seconds, small door on the back that pops up.
18:42 did I just hear...
*THE LICK?*
OH SHIT
Thank you David .
HOW DARE YOU PUT A SPACE BEFORE A PERIOD. THOU SHALT NOT PROFANE THE CELESTIAL LAW KNOWN AS GRAMMAR! BE SMITED, YOU HEATHEN!
Thank You, David!😊
Yeah, thanks David!
with that jank af power supply I feel like apple is just trying to electrocute anyone who dares to crack open their stuff
Makes you wonder if they give apple authorized repair shops and genius bars a cage or cover to prevent that or if they're honestly so against anyone ever repairing their stuff, even their own people, that they'll risk electrocuting those who attempt to do so.
Hemil Mistry if you don’t know how bleeder resistors work, you shouldn’t be commenting on electronic talk.
You know what I'm getting into making my own PC (it's gonna take ages to get all the bits together - only have the case at the moment, waiting for the motherboard and Blu-Ray drive in the post) but I have an old iMac, the thicc ones with the disc drive and...it's old tech. It literally cannot be updated because the hardware is too old. So ripping it apart and upgrading the innards is a fucking good idea. Easier said than done, sure, but it's on the to-do list right now. Thanks Linus (I'll do it after I've done my PC though)
I'm pretty sure it would be less stressful to be a color-blind bomb disposal technician who has to find and cut the one blue wire in a sea of red wires on a nuclear device that is going to explode in thirty seconds and possibly take out all of New York City.
Funniest shit I’ve seen in the comments in a while.
Yes beacase you can cut all the wires
That's..... oddly specific.
Also, if it's just red and blue, you could find it by finding the one gray that's a different shade of gray than the rest. Wait, was I suppose to say spoiler alert?
@@Peekofwar no, no it wasnt
and black and white colorblindness is extremely rare
Not the first time they didn't use a retention mechanism for the CPU. The original Nahalem Mac Pros didn't have them, either, and the dual socket versions didn't even have the IHS on either of the Xeons that were in them.
2:24 several LTT staffers fighting back their ptsd at that point, lol
Thank you David, best audio ever!
typical Linus... Has a whole desk to work on... uses only 5% to increases its chances of breaking everything.
And still doesn't.
now apple will make their computers even harder to upgrade by switching over to apple shaped screw heads and bolts.
They'll weld the screen to the rest of the computer.
Apple - 'buy 100% of a product get access to 70% of it'
Dan Ward *2%
Buy 200% of a product
pay 300%
S T O N K S
i've enjoyed this video how you feared the mac to exit post. really nice moment of hesitation.
thanks DAVID!
and linus
When the ram is more expensive then your whole setup
Oh no another iMac Pro video! what could go wrong this time???
I like your attitude
Thx for the audios David! We appreciate you 👍
A couple of $3 clamp to hold the screen in place while testing would be a good idea. Great Job!
Or just duct tape at the edges, some alcohol will take care of the adhesive residue after
or just blue tape or scotch tape or literally anything so I wasn't freaking out watching those last couple min
Him talking about the progression of the iMac Pro is basically a timeline of Apple's greed.
Somebody doesn't know the difference between windows and macOS
No, it's a result of the reduction in size. Are you all tech noobs on this channel?
"who cares THAT MUCH about a small reduction in size?"
Look at a Mac from 2010. Look at a Mac from today.
Small reductions in size every year add up over the course of many years.
So basically you can go through triple the work to do an upgrade that would have taken less than 20 minutes on a PC, and get a machine that is capable as a PC costing half the price...
Pretty sure Linus review said that it would cost the same amount of money to make the same PC, also it would naturally be harder to work on sense it is an AIO
The 3D Printing Corner if you can find the parts and the 5k monitor cheaper, the yea you can do it for half the price. But since you don’t anything about pricing and technology, no it wouldn’t cost half the price.
didnt he say windows was being a bitch ? and since he was gonna upgrade the cpu on the mac to work on w/e it was he was also gonna do the ram ? lmao we now pc is the best but that explains why he upgraded the mac in the first place was because of windows and if he would went for the same build on a pc and just installed ios software woulda been more exppensive cause he woulda needed psu mobo and whatnot lmao
20 Minutes!???Maybe if you live in slow motion.
5 at the max!Open side door, unscrew heatsink, replace cpu, replace paste, screw back on heatsink. -Take out old ram sticks, replace with new ones- add the extra ram sticks. Close side door. Done
He doesnt build hackintoshes i guess
I do these repairs for a living, and you did a nice job. That said, Linus, you are SO lucky that screen didn’t fall off while you went about adding on the peripherals, plugging it in and starting it up etc.
If you’re going to do that With the iMacs standing up, you need to at least put some temporary tape at the top and bottom. The last thing you want is that screen falling off after you’ve gotten all your work accomplished.
If that happened, you would’ve potentially damaged the Logicboard, display and cables.
*Hey Linus Please Try Liquid Metal In A iMac Pro...*
Ain't gonna work, you know Apple, they love their aluminium.
@Ivan Ivanov Yeah...
it is but aluminium is cheaper, apple probably cheaped out and the liquid metal mad eat the aluminium
De-lidding the CPU to replace the stock TIM would help with temps, but I'm not sure it's worth making a video on this channel. There have been way too many liquid metal videos lately. Plus the iMac Pro is far from the worst Mac when it comes to thermals.
Oh, and you can clearly see in the video that the cold plates are copper.
Linus, why couldn't you just download a new iMac Pro??
Probably cheaper in the long run ;)
Just waiting for people to r/woooosh
*cameraman breathing heavily as Linus is fiddling around with the Mac*
who are you to question what the camera guy is into?
Thanks David!!! You're the man!
Hi Linus,
Couple of notes here when opening retina iMacs.
1. During the process of removing the screen/putting it back on or testing you should do 2x horizontal bits of tape at the bottom of the screen and main housing so you can use it a pivot point to assist when removing the screen/putting it back on. During testing, you should also put a bit of tape on the top half and over onto the back to not risk the display falling off while testing.
2. The strips have holes in them to use the point of an ESD safe 'black stick' in order to make lining the strips up a piece of cake.
3. During the removal of the screen the bottom strip can be cleanly removed by pulling on the tabs at the end and peeling it off sideways in order to detach the screen
4. When pulling the board out, you need to remove the bottom screws along the base of the rear housing which makes life FAR easier when removing/installing the logic board.
I hope this helps!
Once again as I said in the previous video... Disassemble/reassemble it with the back of the iMac to the table. Then you can set the screen on it and connect all the wires without needing three hands and you can test it with the screen laying on it or you can use packaging tape to hold it in place if you want to stand it up. But don't disassemble an iMac with it standing up. That's asking for another broken screen. I was just waiting for that screen to fall off if you bumped the table hard enough.
Wow, nice! Now it'll overheat even more...
0 to 100 in 3.5 seconds!
This should technically be cooler assuming you’re not doing extremely cpu / all threads 100% intensive tasks which barely exist, even professionally (almost everything depends on gpu acceleration/computing these days), so for most tasks users would do, the stronger CPU or one with more modern architecture would barely have to work to do similar tasks, aka never get close to hot enough to cause cooling issues, if you were going to use it for some strange reason that you need all 8 cores at a 100% for hours, you’re a fucking idiot for making that modification to begin with. It’s far more likely if there are cooling issues, it would be the GPU going at 100% for hours rendering something, the cooling for the GPU in this setup looks absolutely terrible for prolonged rendering work
Also to add on to the previous point, if you’re an idiot who would run CPU rendering or similar work on that instead of the gpu, you could throttle your cpu down so it never peaks above 80% loads to manage temperatures.. although like I said you have to be an idiot because that would make the upgrade for this use case pointless
Taran, I'm really impressed with how well you get audio on a normal video. You don't realize the difference it makes until you're stuck with audio like this. Good content though!
Wait a minute. The encryption chip is meant to protect your data in case of theft (thief needs password to login, can't get the ssd's desoldered yada yada). That's sad enough already, because when your motherboard dies, all data is gone. But why doesn't it even allow you to put new storage in? It should be quite simple to wipe the disk and install whatever you want encrypted by that separate chip. It should cause no "security" issues to allow that. So I guess it's just Apple trolling again.
The encryption chip is meant to protect you from saving money by repairing your imac instead of buying new one.
The T2 chip does more than just protect from theft. It controls audio, microphones, system management, safe boot, and the webcam. With the webcam it's supposed to have a better image processor for better capture and FaceTime output. But yes, having your machine bricked would suck, but you can turn off the T2 encryption
The chip does not protect from theft, the fact that you need a whole case of tools and an online guide just to open it, let alone get to the ssd’s. That’s what protects your data.
When it comes to pros and cons, to Apple, your benefit is always on the con side.
You're not going to get it repaired. The moment you bring it into an Apple store they're gonna say fuck you go buy another one because we are Apple and you are locked into our closed ecosystem. Those kernel panicks? They're your fault. Any and all errors are always the user's fault. Give us your $$$$$.
Upgrading an Apple device? Linus you are a madman.
Why would you reuse the thermal compound on the gpu
Edit: 11:07
proud of you Linus
He should have done a temperature comparison of the GPU with different thermal compounds.
Bcuz He snuggles on thermal paste
I have not replace the thermal paste on my cpu in years now its good I reused it
It is not about the paste losing its properties but Apple using mediocre paste in the first place. Some time ago I replaced the factory GPU paste on my Saphhire R9 390 Nitro against Arctic MX-4 and the temperature got even slightly higher, probably because I applied a little bit too much and because the generic one was extremely good already! But other manufacturers tend to not use the high end stuff so I would find it interesting to know if the iMac GPU (which was not changed) would be cooler now with the new paste.
He actuallly didn't. He replaced it off camera (or at least claimed to). I was wincing at that decision too.
Awesome. I wish I could work at Linus Tech Tips. I absolutely love all the exciting work that you do there.
You can upgrade the iMac Pro by slapping 4 more Apple logo stickers then sell it for $50,000. Then get a PC.
More like 20 PCs
Version IV Gaming . Neither are the comments.
Don't slap them on it. Just slap them. They like it.
"Go ahead and cut". Has to be my favourite line 😆
bro great work ! good explanation, One suggestion, please use light when you recording, not clear some tiny parts :(
For the test-boot, don't leave the panel loose. Just wrap some painter's tape around the edges to secure the display panel to the chassis. Cheap insurance, easily removed and just takes a moment to do.
Why is it that almost every video now starts off with a depressed linus? 🤔🤔
Maybe because he's dealing with Apple products?
because he is slowly understanding MacOS being superior to Windows 10, maybe? ;)
@@TazzSmk nah
He has an iMac Pro now.
@@erejnion yea but doesn't mean he prefers it
Why Linus changed T-Shirt at 9:41?
Day 2
Probably sweeting a lot so changing shirt feels pretty good
I've heard a rumour that Linus actually bathes.... sometimes
He's a magician.
Linus, you need to remember to reconnect the fan so your iMac does not overheat like some kind of MacBook.
Love the way the t shirt changes when at 9:42
What, no Linux version for that tape utility?
The Linux version would (if well written) would run on the iMac natively without even so much as a reboot.
Only one major issue, it’s antennae not antennas. lol great vid. Just makes me more and more passed off at Apple ignoring what the prosumer typically wants in an easily upgradable desktop machine. Which is why I’m so reluctant to give up on my 5,1 Mac Pro. I just wonder if the 1080 ti is worth it and if the new 20 series cards will even work in one. I’m not a Mac gamer though. I’m wondering for 3D applications like blender and cinema 4D and after effects/premiere pro/photoshop applications.
If I wanted a high-end desktop Mac, I'd build a two-CPU Mac Pro from 2009-2012. Yeah, you're stuck on Gulftown processors, but you can get up to 12 cores in it, and GPU options are plentiful, even a 1080Ti will do. With a max capacity of 128GB of RAM and extra drive bays (not to mention PCIe slots) out the wazoo, performance can basically match that of the trash can Mac Pro while only missing a few features (namely Thunderbolt) while having vastly more configuration and storage options.
This is actually exactly what I plan to do, because I have a bunch of older Macs (G3/G4/G5 Power Macs plus a couple of iMacs G5 and newer) that I like to use for older stuff but I'd really like something that can actually run a modern Mac OS version. I can't see spending the money on a trash can given the minor CPU performance increase, and while the iMac Pro isn't actually that bad a machine, it's way more money than I'm willing to spend, and I kind of hate the form factor.
Stay in the 2012 range. I've been looking and only thee 2012 5,1 models seem to even support DDR3. The others seem to only support PC2 Memory from what I'm finding.
Also, be careful. I found a 2009 iMac that was firmware hacked to read as a 5,1 as well.
@@AceMcCrank but why do you need a Mac so badly?
The 2010-2012 models are all exactly the same. The 2009 is also the same, with the 5,1 firmware they're identical. However, the mounting of the CPU in the 2009 model requires removal of the integrated heat spreader if you choose to upgrade. That's not a problem for me as I can easily do that myself.
All of them are DDR3, as they're all the same socket.
Ofek,, I don't need one. I was just curious. And I'll take Adam's words for it as I'm not a mac expert by any means. Just going off what I found on eBay and old wayback machine pages from Apple's site.
The 2009 Mac Pro is identical to the 2012 Mac Pro. It doesn't just show that its a 5,1 it gives it all the same software compatibility. It is literally just a bios update (Source: I own one)
Ifixit is seriously the best. The screwdriver kit is one of the best things I ever got. I repair old cameras and radios. it's perfect for that.
Install a water cooling system in an iMac, that would be an interesting project !
Or in a modular pc
think its too thin...
Cose strane trovate sul web He would have to drill a hole, lead out the water pipes at the back and attach the cooler to the foot, for example. There would be no room for that in the iMac itself.
Yes, a new Hackintos-Pro. That'd be AWESOME!
“16 cores”
“intel’s highest end workstation chip”
*laughs in AMD*
Threadripper ftw
laughs in 64 core Threadripper 3990X
18 cores
None of you actually own threadrippers
@@3a.m.284 do you
Other than the noise reduction, I kinda like the in-camera audio. You can hear all the little sounds Linus is making on the computer better.
Nope nope nope ,it sounds like complete ass
I liked it alot
No comment...
@@MMAPGaming I don't agree with your view on the audio issues but hats off to you and your channels ! Not a fan personally of Minecraft but yeah looks like you work pretty hard at it *tips hat
thanks David. I actually love this channel because of unpredictable and humanlike things as this. Mistakes and grate interactions makes the world go round!
the heavy breathing from the cameraman really adds to the production value of this video
The best way to upgrade a Macbook, is to sell it and buy another laptop
Way too much effort for such simple upgrades... not to mention the risk of accidentally touching the exposed power supply.
All you need to do is unplug the power cord then hold the power button down for maybe 10 seconds to drain the capacitors...
For the killer power supply (PSU):
1. Wear rubber glows.
2. Discharge the capacitors using a regular light bulb (preferably one that was designed for 230V) - connect the bulb to two wires - one wire goes to ground, with the second one touch one by one all the metal leads of the big capacitors and all the heat-sinks as well.
3. Please, use a $5 multimeter to double check if there is still some voltage around.
4. Now you are safe to lick your PSU parts, have fun!
@@gogolapeter thanks
please god don't go buy one of these and do all that just to lick it.
#pcmasterrace
Replacing the iMac Pro's CPU doesn't look too different from replacing the CPU in the 2013 trashcan Mac Pro, which I did a couple of weeks ago.
The Mac Pro CPU upgrade was overall fairly easy (with about a third the screws of an iBook G3 hard-drive replacement), but I had a lot of trouble in the last stretch: I couldn't get the CPU bracket out because some of the motherboard standoffs had come off, and by turning the screw, I was turning the standoff and not the screw. Thankfully, I got the bracket off, and had no trouble from then on putting the standoffs and bracket back with the new CPU.
I upgraded my trashcan Mac Pro from a 3.7 GHz quad-core to a 3 GHz TEN-CORE CPU, and I'm extremely happy with how it turned out. :D