DC area bartender here; what ppl who “fight for $15” don’t get is that this is a commission based position. If I sell $2000 I make $400. IDGAF about my hourly.
Activists alway cherrypick data that show their viewpoint and when you show them the actual data they put their fingers in their ears and cover their eyes
Ya I was like that at 1st too, but now I just keep cash on me and throw a buck or 2 into those kinds of works tip jars, I'm not giving 20% but it makes them happy and it's only a $. Now I find myself getting annoyed at food cashiers who don't have a tip jar lol. Its a good way to get really good service & hook ups as well as making others happy
Like I order a carry out pizza. I call and get a call center now. I go pick up the pizza, they hand it to me and take my payment. I’m not tipping you. I’ve done that job at several pizza places. I paid for the pizza, it’s priced to reflect the overhead of the restaurant. If I paid $10 for the pizza, you better believe I’d be tipping them, but it’s like 20-30
I see some commenters objecting to “tip culture.” That’s fine, but this is something that can be addressed through markets and cultural debate. Passing a law to get your way is just as coercive and wrong as passing a law to mandate paying waiters through tips. There’s room for different ways to compensate restaurant workers, and we can sort it out peacefully.
The reality is, I tip less now because everything costs more. I only have so much money to go around. When a medium latte cost $4, I would tip a dollar. Now it costs $5.50. I don't tip, and I buy less of them (bring more coffee from home).
I live in California & the $20 minimum wage lost me my job. Lots of people lost their jobs, or had their hours cut. Now going out to eat cost more & service is worse. The crazy thing was I read articles claiming this raise had very little impact on restaurants & employees. That's BS!
They don't mention the dirty little secret that much of tipped income is not reported to be taxed - why waitstaff love cash tips. My mom was a waitress.
@DanCooper404 I do the same! I carry cash in small bills just for this purpose. I NEVER tip with a card. One thing I was told was to write "cash" in the tip line so that the waiter remembers that you tipped in cash and doesn't think you are a cheapskate & spit in ur food next time 😅
Massachusetts beat this back! The Restaurant Association fought hard and all the tipped employees voted NO. "One Fair Wage" got obliterated in Massachusetts. Saru Jayaraman is pure evil.
People who want this don't care if they ruin a business or the workwr who no longer has a job. It's about feeling moral. Here in Washington they changed the minimum wage and businesses used to be able to count tips towards that wage. Now they cannot... Restaurants said we can't afford it and people were like then you should go out of business. Crazy.
Prossives "Our policies are never bad. Anything that happens after our policy implementation never has anything to do with our policy implementation unless it's good." "Everything that happens that's bad in an area that we're targeting with new policy is because of the naughty people that we don't like. It never has anything to do with anything else." "The data that we have is awesome, but we wont share it with you even when we say that we will unless its been cooked in some way."
That is exactly what the workers DONT want, they make more than minimum wage. I love tipping, I used to love getting tips so I like being able to make ppl happy (and get good service while I'm at it, its a win-win!)
@Marty234 so it should be on customers willingness if they want to tip them or not it's not what is expected from us as customers. Because everyone works hard in their jobs and don't get tipped like they do.
Something else that I as a service worker would love for Reason to investigate is the activists that campaign to force small businesses to be handicap accessible. Most businesses can't afford ramps. A coffee shop in a historic neighborhood may not be able to change the facade of the building at all. In my progressive area there have been many boycotts of businesses that weren't handicap accessible, robbing decent people of jobs and ultimately robbing the community of businesses that were serving them. People don't understand that not everywhere can be accessible or that if you want places to update their layout, you have to support them so they can afford it. I hate to say it but it truly is a lot of privileged people punching the little guys.
As a former waiter, I hate the tipping system. That said, I loved how on slow days I just did homework and read books... making like half the minimum wage. These goons pushing for crazy minimum wages would say i shouldn't be allowed to do that and it would be better for the owner to send me home. Minimum wage decreases the flexibility in the marketplace.
If people really believe a minimum wage is needed we should index it to inflation since 1938. The minimum wage was created in 1938, it was 25 cents an hour. That amount, 25 cents, adjusted for inflation is $5.60 per hour.
A lot of small businesses don't have an incentive to hire servers or bartenders because they don't have the flow into the business at a particular time, but a server or bartender might take a position knowing that people will come into be served by them. That's why tipping works better than just a flat wage for restaurants and workers. When it comes to chain restaurants, it's not as simple, especially when big corporations can keep the cost of the meals low compared with a small family run establishment with higher costs. Smaller businesses tend to be better options for entertaining than corporations and therefore forcing a higher minimum wage just drives the market towards consolidation, which no one wants.
this reminds me a lot of covid. unfortunately, "facts" and "data" don't actually mean truth. so we all tend to show only the information that supports the reality we want
I'm sorry but I've got to say it. This is what always happens when you increase minimum wage. Small businesses go out of business and fire staff and nobody seems to care.
The part that drives me most insane about this is that these advocacy groups talk about protecting the little guy, but the only people who benefit in the long run from minimum wage increase is the big corporations that can eat the costs and now have less competition as smaller businesses go under. Whereas every time someone supposedly is better off because their wage increased, a couple of months later they're already talking that it isn't enough because either their hours were cut, or inflation already ate up the additional income. In Ontario when our minimum wage jumped to $14, I was working at a salon that had 11 staff that immediately shrunk to 9, and we were getting fewer hours on top of that. And when our prices increased to reflect the new wages, people started tipping less as well. I'd say it was about $500 less in my pocket at the end of the month after all was said and done.
I honestly hate tip culture, I see it as a business forcing the customer to compensate for the lower pay they're paying their employees, not tipping is an option, but I also don't want to look like an asshole, so tipping is kinda required. There are nations that see tipping as a bad thing, I want to get there, where we see the *tipper* as the asshole. I understand that means higher costs for what I'm buying, but that higher cost should go towards paying the employees more. The fact one guy in this piece said he made in one day, what some office workers make in a year is super telling that we need to kill tipping, it's basically an extra tax on the consumer. I don't endorse a minimum wage at all, I think that's stupid and the business should be able to determine what they want to pay their workers, if someone is willing to work for less, who cares if both people are in agreement to the terms of employment? As a libertarian, I think we need to make that the business of the employee and employer, not the government.
@@everythingisfine9988 and look like an asshole? I gave a 5 dollar tip on a $20 bill once at a Chinese restaurant and I got the nastiest stares from the staff on my way out, you thought I just walked out without giving them anything with the evil eyes that were being shot at me. If I could avoid tipping I would, but I also like eating out and not worrying about people spitting in my food because they remembered I didn't tip.
I was hoping for the Massachusetts ballot to be passed so I could stop tipping. I don't tip the stock boy, cashier, bagged at my grocery store. Why would I tip a waiter making the same hourly wage? If you don't like it, get a job that is not tip based.
It's really easy. Just post signs in the restaurants that state, due to new regulations, the new recommended tip percentage is 10%. Customers will still pay about the same, and the restaurants can raise their prices to cover it.
Critics of the American tipping system are so numerous that it has become a cliché, though it's funny how almost none of them have ever actually worked for tips.
Wow, 3 failed attempts to put her policies into use and she locks in even more. (Props for trying) The power of cognitive dissonance is profound in this one. Then supporting her cause with erroneous statistics is absolutely wild. Harvard and Yale must be so proud. SMH And the irony of her organization being sued for wage theft and discrimination LMAO
Worked sometimes hourly and other times for tips. Earning tips was hit-or-miss, but an important experience I wouldn't've wanted to do wothout. Know the many unintended consequences before you take that option away.
Tips should be eliminated entirely, it is THE reason I do not want to go out to eat. Menu prices are absured, and you expect me to pay 20% on top of that, in additon to taxes? No sir, find a way to reduce costs for the consumer, and become more efficient in your business practices.
DC area bartender here; what ppl who “fight for $15” don’t get is that this is a commission based position. If I sell $2000 I make $400. IDGAF about my hourly.
So what? You feel like it would impact your tips if people didn't secretly think you were a beggar?
@@jwfcp it would.
That woman and her smugness is absolutely infuriating. When did she ever work in a restaurant?
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three times, and all 3 seem to have failed
@@juancuelloespinosa And it seems that her restaurants had to steal from the employees to last as long as they did. smdh
professional activists are hustlers and charlatans.
Shouldn't matter. Just because you worked at a restaurant, doesn't give you the right to interfere with my freedom to work.
*Activist confronted with data*
“Well, those data must be wrong!”
Activists alway cherrypick data that show their viewpoint and when you show them the actual data they put their fingers in their ears and cover their eyes
Right! And I have good data, where is it... oh it's in the mail... I swear I sent it to you
The only thing that's really annoying about tipping is that everybody wants a tip now, not just those earning a tipped wage. It's really annoying.
Ya I was like that at 1st too, but now I just keep cash on me and throw a buck or 2 into those kinds of works tip jars, I'm not giving 20% but it makes them happy and it's only a $.
Now I find myself getting annoyed at food cashiers who don't have a tip jar lol. Its a good way to get really good service & hook ups as well as making others happy
Like I order a carry out pizza. I call and get a call center now. I go pick up the pizza, they hand it to me and take my payment. I’m not tipping you. I’ve done that job at several pizza places. I paid for the pizza, it’s priced to reflect the overhead of the restaurant. If I paid $10 for the pizza, you better believe I’d be tipping them, but it’s like 20-30
We are from the government and we are here to help.
1 fair wage is just a grift. Not a single good intention in sight.
I see some commenters objecting to “tip culture.” That’s fine, but this is something that can be addressed through markets and cultural debate. Passing a law to get your way is just as coercive and wrong as passing a law to mandate paying waiters through tips. There’s room for different ways to compensate restaurant workers, and we can sort it out peacefully.
The reality is, I tip less now because everything costs more. I only have so much money to go around. When a medium latte cost $4, I would tip a dollar. Now it costs $5.50. I don't tip, and I buy less of them (bring more coffee from home).
I live in California & the $20 minimum wage lost me my job. Lots of people lost their jobs, or had their hours cut. Now going out to eat cost more & service is worse. The crazy thing was I read articles claiming this raise had very little impact on restaurants & employees. That's BS!
They don't mention the dirty little secret that much of tipped income is not reported to be taxed - why waitstaff love cash tips. My mom was a waitress.
I tip in cash, even if I use a card to pay for the meal, because what the server does with that money is his or her business, no one else's.
A Democrat l know never gives cash tips for this reason.
@DanCooper404 I do the same! I carry cash in small bills just for this purpose. I NEVER tip with a card.
One thing I was told was to write "cash" in the tip line so that the waiter remembers that you tipped in cash and doesn't think you are a cheapskate & spit in ur food next time 😅
Massachusetts beat this back! The Restaurant Association fought hard and all the tipped employees voted NO. "One Fair Wage" got obliterated in Massachusetts. Saru Jayaraman is pure evil.
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Add a tip?
20% 25% 30%
Don't forget about the best option of all: "No Tip" or "Skip" 😎
When ego and economic illiteracy collide, we get higher prices, businesses closing, and joblessness. Depressing.
Min wage hikes never kill jobs, how about you pay for your own luxury spending instead of expecting the govt to bail out your cheeseburger.
Tipping is an option. So click "Skip" 😎
People who want this don't care if they ruin a business or the workwr who no longer has a job. It's about feeling moral. Here in Washington they changed the minimum wage and businesses used to be able to count tips towards that wage. Now they cannot... Restaurants said we can't afford it and people were like then you should go out of business. Crazy.
Prossives
"Our policies are never bad. Anything that happens after our policy implementation never has anything to do with our policy implementation unless it's good."
"Everything that happens that's bad in an area that we're targeting with new policy is because of the naughty people that we don't like. It never has anything to do with anything else."
"The data that we have is awesome, but we wont share it with you even when we say that we will unless its been cooked in some way."
Just end mandatory tipping, we did not employed you your employer did.
Edit :- Tipping is alternative to begging.
That is exactly what the workers DONT want, they make more than minimum wage.
I love tipping, I used to love getting tips so I like being able to make ppl happy (and get good service while I'm at it, its a win-win!)
@Marty234 so it should be on customers willingness if they want to tip them or not it's not what is expected from us as customers. Because everyone works hard in their jobs and don't get tipped like they do.
end it? it never started. there is no mandatory tipping.
Something else that I as a service worker would love for Reason to investigate is the activists that campaign to force small businesses to be handicap accessible. Most businesses can't afford ramps. A coffee shop in a historic neighborhood may not be able to change the facade of the building at all. In my progressive area there have been many boycotts of businesses that weren't handicap accessible, robbing decent people of jobs and ultimately robbing the community of businesses that were serving them. People don't understand that not everywhere can be accessible or that if you want places to update their layout, you have to support them so they can afford it. I hate to say it but it truly is a lot of privileged people punching the little guys.
Thanks for the suggestion, we can certainly look into this. We always appreciate tips from our audience.
@@ReasonTV "We always appreciate *tips* from our audience."
Pun intended, I'm hoping.
We must flatten all mountains, because I am not fit for mountain climbing.
As a former waiter, I hate the tipping system. That said, I loved how on slow days I just did homework and read books... making like half the minimum wage. These goons pushing for crazy minimum wages would say i shouldn't be allowed to do that and it would be better for the owner to send me home. Minimum wage decreases the flexibility in the marketplace.
That woman is a sociopath. You can tell by how she blames the victims of an initiative she pushed.
professional organizers are narcissists. they don't care who they hurt, so long as they can engage in public moral posturing.
If people really believe a minimum wage is needed we should index it to inflation since 1938. The minimum wage was created in 1938, it was 25 cents an hour. That amount, 25 cents, adjusted for inflation is $5.60 per hour.
As a consumer, I'd prefer to see higher prices in restaurants, and eliminate tipping altogether.
I remember in college, the students that worked part time tipped jobs made bank. They left college with low debt.
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Celebrities and activists making decisions for real people is always a bad combination.
@@jerome_dangelo politicians and bureaucrats are included in that
Wage laws are a violation of property rights.
A lot of small businesses don't have an incentive to hire servers or bartenders because they don't have the flow into the business at a particular time, but a server or bartender might take a position knowing that people will come into be served by them. That's why tipping works better than just a flat wage for restaurants and workers.
When it comes to chain restaurants, it's not as simple, especially when big corporations can keep the cost of the meals low compared with a small family run establishment with higher costs. Smaller businesses tend to be better options for entertaining than corporations and therefore forcing a higher minimum wage just drives the market towards consolidation, which no one wants.
this reminds me a lot of covid. unfortunately, "facts" and "data" don't actually mean truth. so we all tend to show only the information that supports the reality we want
what do these workers want? just WHAT DO THEY WANT?
I'm sorry but I've got to say it. This is what always happens when you increase minimum wage. Small businesses go out of business and fire staff and nobody seems to care.
Remember this is not supply and demand. No one is competing and doing it better somewhere else. This is artificial from the government.
The part that drives me most insane about this is that these advocacy groups talk about protecting the little guy, but the only people who benefit in the long run from minimum wage increase is the big corporations that can eat the costs and now have less competition as smaller businesses go under. Whereas every time someone supposedly is better off because their wage increased, a couple of months later they're already talking that it isn't enough because either their hours were cut, or inflation already ate up the additional income. In Ontario when our minimum wage jumped to $14, I was working at a salon that had 11 staff that immediately shrunk to 9, and we were getting fewer hours on top of that. And when our prices increased to reflect the new wages, people started tipping less as well. I'd say it was about $500 less in my pocket at the end of the month after all was said and done.
they are trying to benefit themselves, by creating fake controversies so they have work to do. advocacy is a grift.
I honestly hate tip culture, I see it as a business forcing the customer to compensate for the lower pay they're paying their employees, not tipping is an option, but I also don't want to look like an asshole, so tipping is kinda required. There are nations that see tipping as a bad thing, I want to get there, where we see the *tipper* as the asshole. I understand that means higher costs for what I'm buying, but that higher cost should go towards paying the employees more.
The fact one guy in this piece said he made in one day, what some office workers make in a year is super telling that we need to kill tipping, it's basically an extra tax on the consumer.
I don't endorse a minimum wage at all, I think that's stupid and the business should be able to determine what they want to pay their workers, if someone is willing to work for less, who cares if both people are in agreement to the terms of employment? As a libertarian, I think we need to make that the business of the employee and employer, not the government.
Just don't tip
@@everythingisfine9988 and look like an asshole? I gave a 5 dollar tip on a $20 bill once at a Chinese restaurant and I got the nastiest stares from the staff on my way out, you thought I just walked out without giving them anything with the evil eyes that were being shot at me. If I could avoid tipping I would, but I also like eating out and not worrying about people spitting in my food because they remembered I didn't tip.
I was hoping for the Massachusetts ballot to be passed so I could stop tipping. I don't tip the stock boy, cashier, bagged at my grocery store. Why would I tip a waiter making the same hourly wage? If you don't like it, get a job that is not tip based.
The inevitable truth is that the true minimum wage is, and always will be, $0
It's really easy. Just post signs in the restaurants that state, due to new regulations, the new recommended tip percentage is 10%. Customers will still pay about the same, and the restaurants can raise their prices to cover it.
Critics of the American tipping system are so numerous that it has become a cliché, though it's funny how almost none of them have ever actually worked for tips.
Wow, 3 failed attempts to put her policies into use and she locks in even more. (Props for trying) The power of cognitive dissonance is profound in this one. Then supporting her cause with erroneous statistics is absolutely wild. Harvard and Yale must be so proud. SMH
And the irony of her organization being sued for wage theft and discrimination LMAO
Worked sometimes hourly and other times for tips. Earning tips was hit-or-miss, but an important experience I wouldn't've wanted to do wothout. Know the many unintended consequences before you take that option away.
Finally, an actual documentary video. Wish you guys were able to do this more often.
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She's happy to send you data ...... The dots are because I was waiting for the follow up "We never got the data" in the video.
So we can blame restaurant workers for this horrid tipping culture. Got it.
Yah tipping is like begging if it's not done out of will of customer.
So they're okay with 10% tip then?
Labor "activists"
Not the actual labor itself. Does it have much to do with better conditions for the worker?
"data is confirmed by the new york times" lol, lmao even
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Tips should be eliminated entirely, it is THE reason I do not want to go out to eat. Menu prices are absured, and you expect me to pay 20% on top of that, in additon to taxes? No sir, find a way to reduce costs for the consumer, and become more efficient in your business practices.