Oren Cass: The philosophy of J.D. Vance

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024

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  • @Tmanintn
    @Tmanintn 3 месяца назад +738

    Freddie you have a lot to learn about the USA if you think Cheney or Kristol speak for anyone other than themselves. No one else pays attention to them.

    • @GodsOwnPrototype
      @GodsOwnPrototype 3 месяца назад

      I think you forgot their warmongering big money doners & backers.

    • @rampartranger7749
      @rampartranger7749 3 месяца назад +90

      Freddy, I understand you don’t live in the US, but next time you visit try not to spend any time in the emotionally disturbed populations of Washington DC or New York City. They are self-aggrandizing populations deeply out of touch with their own country.

    • @mariannorton4161
      @mariannorton4161 3 месяца назад +23

      Very true.

    • @arthurh5707
      @arthurh5707 3 месяца назад +27

      The Ken doll seems to have a penchant for misinterpreting simple concepts - like truth.

    • @19valleydan
      @19valleydan 3 месяца назад +23

      @@rampartranger7749 Freddy might need a guide in "fly-over" country, but it would broaden his horizons. He could be a modern day de Tocqueville. He can bring Nigel Farage with him for the trip.

  • @ericblankenburg
    @ericblankenburg 3 месяца назад +345

    A lot of us went through this same journey. I grew up in a lower middle-class blue-collar neighborhood. I started working at my father's gas station when I was 13. I joined the Air Force after high school. I became a voracious reader and developed a solid libertarian world view, but always grounded in my blue-collar background. I went to work in technology on the West Coast. About 10 years ago, my views on trade and immigration started to evolve after I really took a hard look at the detrimental impact both "free trade" and open immigration had on working people.

    • @HeyCutie90
      @HeyCutie90 3 месяца назад +33

      I was raised by a single mom with substance abuse issues in Appalachia. I find his childhood incredibly relatable and his story is inspiring.

    • @jacquedegatineau9037
      @jacquedegatineau9037 3 месяца назад +11

      Yes. That's my experience also. Well said.

    • @tg5372
      @tg5372 3 месяца назад +5

      Thank you for your service, hungry brain and your open mind.

    • @richardcameron3762
      @richardcameron3762 3 месяца назад +6

      Get over narrow minded nativism.
      Workers of the world unite bro.
      Borders are a relatively new concept.
      Christians believe any country was free to roam in if it was a Christian country.
      You looking at culture countries through a 50 year lens.

    • @tg5372
      @tg5372 3 месяца назад +25

      @@richardcameron3762 And you sound like someone who was taught by Leon Trotsky. Looks good on paper hard to live with.

  • @Madstsone
    @Madstsone 3 месяца назад +440

    You guys didn't do your homework on this one. Calling Bill Kristol a "prominent voice in the RNC" is just mindboggling.

    • @kkrenken895
      @kkrenken895 3 месяца назад

      They don’t live in the real world. They live in the 5%. He called us “first and foremost, workers”.

    • @denroy3
      @denroy3 3 месяца назад +11

      Well, in tge establishment RNC these nightcrawlers are still trying.

    • @miramichi30
      @miramichi30 2 месяца назад +6

      He's well connected whether you like it or not.

    • @Madstsone
      @Madstsone 2 месяца назад +10

      @@miramichi30 How? Kristol seems like a complete has-been

    • @Peter7966
      @Peter7966 2 месяца назад +14

      Kristol is a yesterday prominent voice. He's history.

  • @abpgrace
    @abpgrace 2 месяца назад +198

    Things as in Cars, beautiful clothes, furniture and on and on. We don’t need to own so many cheaply made items, rather a few quality items that are repairable and worth keeping.

    • @mlh5434
      @mlh5434 2 месяца назад +14

      If you don't want to own so many cheaply made things, then don't buy them. But we don't need to force consumers to "only buy expensively-made products".

    • @montrelouisebohon-harris7023
      @montrelouisebohon-harris7023 2 месяца назад

      Exactly

    • @alexandru5369
      @alexandru5369 2 месяца назад +2

      Yep less is more

    • @CharlesTaylor-yo6dr
      @CharlesTaylor-yo6dr 2 месяца назад +4

      Our culture needs to turn the corner. We are in late term capitalism where the majority of the wealth has accumulated to the small minority. Jeff Bazos saw that our society is driven by materialism, His business model simple: provide customer products at the lowest market rate, put all profits back into company, expand and rinse and repeat until you put all of your competitors out of business. Boom 15 years later largest retailer. Now mind you Bazos started this in mid 90s, he saw the beginning of internet retail space and the beginning of Clinton's China trade act which has driven production and retailers in the US to vanish. Who is to blame? We get the politicians and leaders we deserve. Niche was right over 150 years ago in the beginning of the industrial age when he said God is dead. God remains dead, and we have killed him." Meaning we do not lean on our morals or faith to provide. we are now in a time of abundance and comfort.

    • @carjaune6793
      @carjaune6793 2 месяца назад

      But that’s bad for growth. You a commie degrowther?

  • @annaharris626
    @annaharris626 2 месяца назад +52

    What beautifully clear presentation by Cass, emphasising US should be producing real wealth in terms of things that are useful, rather than pieces of paper, or stock market profits.

    • @HK-tj8tf
      @HK-tj8tf 2 месяца назад

      Carl Marx is the original..

  • @Recusant_
    @Recusant_ 3 месяца назад +938

    Europeans: criticize the US for being the world’s police
    Also Europeans: oh no! The US is becoming Isolationist!!

    • @speggeri90
      @speggeri90 3 месяца назад +1

      I’m european and I think europeans are a bunch of pathetic whinoes.

    • @Cloudopatra
      @Cloudopatra 3 месяца назад +38

      🇺🇸 AMERICA cant be all things to the Euros.

    • @januarysson5633
      @januarysson5633 3 месяца назад

      Europeans want America to be policeman of the world but want to be the department chief.

    • @codyvandal2860
      @codyvandal2860 3 месяца назад +63

      Non-intervention is not "isolationism" anyway. Conflating the two is insane.

    • @Recusant_
      @Recusant_ 3 месяца назад +25

      @@januarysson5633 yeah well they need to handle their own problems.

  • @pitts64lb
    @pitts64lb 3 месяца назад +898

    “Controversial stance on Ukraine”. Most Americans oppose spending billions on Ukraine.

    • @mcgilcol
      @mcgilcol 3 месяца назад +44

      I suppose it qualifies as "controversial" in America where all of the corporate media organs constantly bang the "Russia Russia Russia" drum ... 🙄

    • @hasidila188
      @hasidila188 2 месяца назад +38

      On which poll/survey do You base that opinion? Every poll/survey I have seen, it's opposite, but of course the exact percentages depend on the phrasing of the question etc.

    • @steveurquell3031
      @steveurquell3031 2 месяца назад +37

      @@hasidila188 Yes its bullshit, the majority supports supporting Ukraine. But people in America tend to live in echo chambers, so of course the critics think everyone thinks the same...

    • @SteveOhw594
      @SteveOhw594 2 месяца назад +9

      According to who?

    • @C-Culper4874
      @C-Culper4874 2 месяца назад +22

      ​@@steveurquell3031I would like to see the location of the polled people. I know I don't know everyone but I don't know of anyone that supports it. That's from right veterans to lefty city people. The opinions are money related not at the personal aspect.

  • @andrewhotston983
    @andrewhotston983 3 месяца назад +917

    Sounds like Vance is upsetting all the right people!

    • @zestiny_
      @zestiny_ 2 месяца назад +24

      this has to be a bot account. its so generic

    • @13thbiosphere
      @13thbiosphere 2 месяца назад +16

      I wonder how upset Jeff bezos is

    • @helenestiernstrand6575
      @helenestiernstrand6575 2 месяца назад +2

      😎

    • @dfwtransport2420
      @dfwtransport2420 2 месяца назад

      God commanded the Israelites to not return to the holy land until a messianic figure calls them back. In other words when Jesus returns and calls them back. However, the Zionist ended the exile ahead of time and created a state against the command of God. Now God will send them a false Messiah antichrist. The most evil leader in human history sent unto the most evil people in the sight of God. Evangelicals have chosen the side of evil, and they will initially fight against Messiah son of Mary.

    • @staninjapan07
      @staninjapan07 2 месяца назад +17

      @@zestiny_ It's so generic? That it is not particularly profound does not mean it is bot-generated. Perhaps he finds it amusing that Mr. Vance (about whom I know very little) is upsetting people he (Andrew) does not like.

  • @DL-xg7nu
    @DL-xg7nu 2 месяца назад +130

    I am a Conservative from NY, union worker, business owner, was a single mom at 17. J D Vance was my first pick. ❤

    • @mcs4903
      @mcs4903 2 месяца назад +5

      You and Marjorie Taylor Greene of whom he said he was honored to have her indorsement 🤪

    • @joemerino3243
      @joemerino3243 2 месяца назад +4

      You know he doesn't believe anything he says, right? Vance is a skin suit with three demons inside.

    • @sitnhere
      @sitnhere 2 месяца назад +1

      @@joemerino3243 This can apply to anyone in politics......and even YOU!!

    • @JCX-9
      @JCX-9 2 месяца назад +2

      How was JD Vance your first pick? Nobody even knew about him before he was thrown out there as a VP choice.

    • @janetprice85
      @janetprice85 2 месяца назад

      ​@@mcs4903 North Georgia never elects senile grifters. That's a Democrat trait.

  • @martinbrennan578
    @martinbrennan578 2 месяца назад +103

    Oren's analysis of Google as a non technical monopoly charging rent is great to hear.

    • @TheSpoovy
      @TheSpoovy 2 месяца назад +3

      Recently read "Technofeudalism" on this subject. A very good read!

    • @sebastian_arroyave_author
      @sebastian_arroyave_author 2 месяца назад

      As Yanis Varoufakis calls it digital feudalism. None of these companies and none of these people "are worth" billions. We need to put an end to the cult and the worship of billionaires and celebrities.

    • @in.der.welt.sein.
      @in.der.welt.sein. 2 месяца назад

      What's next? A cultural revolution to get rid of the landlords and rent chargers?!

  • @CatchmeIfucan-fo2hf
    @CatchmeIfucan-fo2hf 3 месяца назад +615

    “Fascist-adjacent” is just code for “not controlled by us.”

    • @fergalcussen
      @fergalcussen 3 месяца назад +50

      Bill Kristol was an architect of the Iraq War, but apparently it's Vance we should worry about.

    • @georgeash4008
      @georgeash4008 3 месяца назад +31

      @@fergalcussen JD Vance served in the military BIll Kristol could have volunteered for Vietnam but didn't. Cowardly Kristol strikes again.

    • @tuckerbugeater
      @tuckerbugeater 3 месяца назад +3

      @@fergalcussen PNAC was the architect of GWOT which is still ongoing. The forever war of all against all.

    • @tuckerbugeater
      @tuckerbugeater 3 месяца назад

      @@georgeash4008 How many served in the military that want revenge against people like you?

    • @richardkut3976
      @richardkut3976 3 месяца назад +18

      Fair Trade, not Free Trade.

  • @cosmacgrandpa
    @cosmacgrandpa 3 месяца назад +251

    Lol quoting Kristol and Cheney as representatives of the Republican party. The Republican party of 1980, maybe

    • @d0lvl0
      @d0lvl0 2 месяца назад

      No need to lie, they were both associated with the George W Bush admin, from 2000-2008. That is relatively recent, although I think they've both become irrelevant (rightly) for the new Republican party that actually represents a large portion of working Americans.

    • @smb123211
      @smb123211 2 месяца назад

      Yeah, that old, evil party of Reagan and Bush. Future historians will scratch their head at how a tiny populist minority headed by a lifelong Democrat reality star caused otherwise normal adults to denounce folks they actively supported in the past.

    • @greatcondor8678
      @greatcondor8678 2 месяца назад +5

      These educated kids know nothing.

    • @geraldmack6324
      @geraldmack6324 2 месяца назад

      Didnt they run the party until 2008?

    • @smb123211
      @smb123211 2 месяца назад

      @@geraldmack6324 No, they did not "run the party" - at least like Trump. they were normal moderates as were most Republican. Both Romney and McCain were moderates with views similar to Reagan.
      The new GOP disdain for the US led world order has yet to play out though most likely Poland, Japan, Taiwan, Korea and Saudi Arabia will immediate go nuclear in lieu of depending on the US.

  • @buzinaocara
    @buzinaocara 3 месяца назад +502

    Citing Musk, Sacks, Thiel and Carlson as "facist-adjacent" is the ultimate proof the term "facist" as used by these people has lost all meaning and their rethoric can safely be ignored.

    • @MovieRiotHD
      @MovieRiotHD 3 месяца назад +43

      Most people who use the word will not be able to define it, let alone know it's history.

    • @codyvandal2860
      @codyvandal2860 3 месяца назад +17

      Right its like calling AOC "Communist Adjacent" lol

    • @Zaandick
      @Zaandick 3 месяца назад +17

      Like those that bust out "commie" for someone who might support medicare for all.

    • @ingwer8918
      @ingwer8918 3 месяца назад

      Very well said!

    • @greyfriars6540
      @greyfriars6540 3 месяца назад +24

      It's replaced "racist" as the go-to Libs shut up word.

  • @amefibrasil6058
    @amefibrasil6058 2 месяца назад +114

    I can’t see why doubting and wanting to audit election results is undemocratic! In my view it’s the opposite! Not allowing these questions is tyrannical!

    • @katiebea9258
      @katiebea9258 2 месяца назад +3

      Tammany Hall = Democrat's Weaponized 3-LETTERS
      Tammany Hall didn't like scrutiny either.

    • @Ncharlop
      @Ncharlop 2 месяца назад +3

      No problem questioning
      But once the courts make their decision you shut up and go home.

    • @tedtalksrock
      @tedtalksrock 2 месяца назад +4

      Questioning, fine.
      Fabricating, Trump-style, not so good.

    • @maryhalverson5713
      @maryhalverson5713 2 месяца назад +2

      V​@@Ncharlop- As we've seen time and again, robes don't bestow wisdom.

    • @tritchie6272
      @tritchie6272 2 месяца назад +3

      Did you say the same thing about Hillary?​@@Ncharlop

  • @wendyandrew3707
    @wendyandrew3707 2 месяца назад +4

    Great interview. Really rate this man. Im not conservative, but I'm not cynical either and I think JD Vance is a sign of hope that he could be a good politician who will react to reality once in office whilst having a good foundation.

  • @bangcon
    @bangcon 3 месяца назад +108

    You can't trade if your country doesn't make anything

    • @ms-jl6dl
      @ms-jl6dl 3 месяца назад +3

      Yes you can. You buy and sell. It's called "a trade".

    • @peterweston1356
      @peterweston1356 3 месяца назад +7

      I think a solid economy needs a decent balance of payments made up of products and services, probably an old fashioned way of saying it, but I think that’s what he was signalling.

    • @Grenadier311
      @Grenadier311 2 месяца назад +2

      America is the world's second largest manufacturer.

    • @bellakrinkle9381
      @bellakrinkle9381 2 месяца назад

      Who believes the US sanctions promote trade?

    • @Tootsie55
      @Tootsie55 2 месяца назад +3

      I don’t mind buying things made in other countries but I do mind that everything you buy is made elsewhere and not in USA. Another thing the quantity of just about everything including our food has diminished. 😢

  • @jaunt3603
    @jaunt3603 3 месяца назад +345

    Bill Kristol never met a war he didn't like.

    • @DavidGBlair
      @DavidGBlair 3 месяца назад +22

      As long as he doesn’t have to fight

    • @codyvandal2860
      @codyvandal2860 3 месяца назад +14

      Its someone elses kids he wants to send as usual

    • @ivoperic3992
      @ivoperic3992 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@codyvandal2860
      Typically, jewish!

    • @betsyc6055
      @betsyc6055 2 месяца назад +5

      Notice when he wrote editorials for the NYTimes he was wrong exactly 100% of the time

    • @citizenbobx
      @citizenbobx 2 месяца назад

      Actually, he sent his own son, as Marine infantry to Afghanistan. So no, I wouldn't say he likes war. He represents a discredited set of policy ideas that don't make sense, but I wouldn't go further than that.

  • @erikdeca
    @erikdeca 3 месяца назад +290

    Considering the people who do not like JD Vance I consider them not liking him to be a ringing endorsement.

    • @pakrm2023
      @pakrm2023 2 месяца назад +5

      Amen brother! I could NOT have said it better!

    • @plekkchand
      @plekkchand 2 месяца назад +3

      Rather than doing the work of evaluating him yourself.

    • @cnrspiller3549
      @cnrspiller3549 2 месяца назад +5

      ​@@plekkchand not much different from the fabled aphorism, "A man is known by the company he keeps".
      The ancient wise man who came up with that truism may well have written, "A man is known by those who criticise him".
      If that kind of heuristic is good enough for a wise storyteller like Aesop, why not the rest of us?

    • @dustintacohands1107
      @dustintacohands1107 2 месяца назад

      I’m a pro life pro gun anti government Christian Zionist nationalist naturalist…. I do not like JD Vance.

    • @aesop1451
      @aesop1451 2 месяца назад +1

      "For at a pivotal time in my life, Barack Obama gave me hope that a boy who grew up like me could still achieve the most important of my dreams. For that, I’ll miss him, and the example he set." - JD Vance, Barack Obama and Me, New York Times, January 02, 2017. In 2016 he was a Never Trumper that voted for CIA glowniger Evan McMullin, who was also supported by neocon Irving Kristol.

  • @justbecause3187
    @justbecause3187 2 месяца назад +19

    This was not the kind of video i was expecting given the title of the video, however it was a good rundown of the various problems within the US economy. If this represents the economic views of JD Vance, then the future of America is looking bright indeed.

  • @douglasturner6153
    @douglasturner6153 2 месяца назад +42

    Oren Cass makes a lot of sense. Seems to truly understand the real political landscape. A rare thing. 😊👍

    • @mlh5434
      @mlh5434 2 месяца назад +1

      He certainly understands the real political landscape, which is that voters as a whole are not particularly smart. Unfortunately, he seems to have virtually zero understanding of economics.

    • @mittens4kittens-ym4or
      @mittens4kittens-ym4or 2 месяца назад

      I don't agree with some of what he says, but I do agree with his point, having lived in Silicon Valley, that that economy has this bizarre dichotomy between multi-million dollar homes, giant tech campuses, Teslas, and shuttered, boarded-up businesses and thousands of homeless individuals.

    • @Anna-tj7mp
      @Anna-tj7mp 2 месяца назад

      Trump is a con man and Vance seems pretty fringe, but this man is reasonable and well informed. Why oh why can't Republicans in America elect leaders who are equally serious.

  • @roderickmorrison
    @roderickmorrison 3 месяца назад +114

    Fantastic interview. Seldom does a (former?) lefty like me spend 30+ minutes listening to a conservative and finding myself nodding my head so much.

    • @edwinblake
      @edwinblake 3 месяца назад +3

      I agree!

    • @wendyurquia4034
      @wendyurquia4034 3 месяца назад +6

      My thoughts exactly. Definitely a 'former' here. :)

    • @peterweston1356
      @peterweston1356 3 месяца назад +2

      If the more extreme cultural stuff is taken out, do you think this new right in the USA, sounds more like the current U.K. SDP? Just thinking out loud

    • @aclark903
      @aclark903 3 месяца назад

      @@peterweston1356It’s the feminists that are extreme on abortion. Killing children for convenience is pretty extreme!

    • @Bungadin2845
      @Bungadin2845 3 месяца назад +1

      Join the Club

  • @kynismos
    @kynismos 3 месяца назад +220

    He has all the right enemies.

    • @wendyandrew3707
      @wendyandrew3707 2 месяца назад

      And Freddy speaks for them, playing devils advocate. A style of interviewing I deplore.

    • @EpochUnlocked
      @EpochUnlocked 2 месяца назад

      He's owned by Peter Thiel.

  • @johnlund2036
    @johnlund2036 3 месяца назад +431

    Liz Cheney is not a shining example of a person who complies with the constitution.

    • @Kefuddle
      @Kefuddle 3 месяца назад +16

      I was just about to comment the same thing.

    • @nokateno
      @nokateno 3 месяца назад +29

      Liz Cheney is a big creep.

    • @georgeash4008
      @georgeash4008 3 месяца назад

      Liz Cheney makes her husband dress up as Donald Trump in the bedroom. Kinky but true.

    • @Cloudopatra
      @Cloudopatra 3 месяца назад

      Neo-con aka war-monger

    • @davidpaz9389
      @davidpaz9389 3 месяца назад

      She is from a war-profiteering, anti-American, globalist family.

  • @finn3408
    @finn3408 2 месяца назад +7

    Lower taxes, reduce government spending. Encourage Free enterprises and small businesses.

    • @EpochUnlocked
      @EpochUnlocked 2 месяца назад

      Zero Income Tax
      Zero Deficit spending
      Zero proxy wars
      Zero illegal immigration
      Zero Marxism in Universities
      Zero DEI
      ZERO tolerance towards corporations owning residential properties

  • @cittaaukoto_japan9926
    @cittaaukoto_japan9926 2 месяца назад +13

    Funny that Oren Cass keeps on saying that he is a conservative but then talks about economic policy like someone who, until yesterday, called themselves well left wing. If this is the new right, sign me up.

  • @LawsonBowling
    @LawsonBowling 3 месяца назад +191

    Bill Kristal left the GOP quite awhile ago and Liz Cheney for some time has been a fringe figure in the party

    • @johnrock2022
      @johnrock2022 3 месяца назад +1

      *Kristol

    • @jonnymerry
      @jonnymerry 3 месяца назад +6

      With only two dominant parties in America, there will be people with different views on various policies in the same party. Where else will they go?

    • @tommalone58
      @tommalone58 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@@jonnymerrya new liberty party other than the Libertarians who are a joke

    • @MarvinMonroe
      @MarvinMonroe 2 месяца назад +4

      Uhmm actually his name is Billy Crystal and he's a popular comedic actor

    • @BrianButterworth-s4z
      @BrianButterworth-s4z 2 месяца назад

      It's a uniparty. Trump and the Clinton's used to be close family friends. They are all the same supporters of the oligarchy.

  • @dracocaelestis6370
    @dracocaelestis6370 3 месяца назад +40

    i first heard about jd vamce when i read his book. as someone who immigrated to america i am very fascinated by american societal issues and political cleavage. i thought the book was well written and was a great insight into people living in appalachia and the rust belt. vance sounded like a very reasonable guy, even when my view of things might have differed from his. his political career so far has been short so i can’t say much about it but based on the fact that he is resourceful, hardworking and that he sounds as a very levelheaded guy i really have no clue why everybody is losing it. also, it can’t get worse than our current administration so we’re at the point that any change will be a good change in comparison.

    • @ArtU4All
      @ArtU4All 3 месяца назад

      His dramatic 180 on T does not make question his motives?

    • @dracocaelestis6370
      @dracocaelestis6370 3 месяца назад +19

      as everything in politics it does. but at the same time it’s not bad to change your opinion when you realize you’re wrong. i’ve been wrong many times myself and corrected my opinions when i realized that. i don’t know the guy personally, but i know a lot of people who had 180 on trump as well. looking from the outsider’s perspective i never particularly liked trump , as i knew about him mostly from show business. but i couldn’t understand the hate for him either. the way media and public opinion operate in the US is absolutely wild, so if someone genuinely changes their mind after they realized they were wrong, i consider that to be honorable. obviously, i don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes.

    • @washoecreative595
      @washoecreative595 3 месяца назад +14

      @@ArtU4All I have experienced a similar 180 on T and so, I believe, have millions of other Americans. Nothing to explain.

    • @nokateno
      @nokateno 3 месяца назад +9

      @@ArtU4Allhaving the courage to admit you were wrong about something is a big deal

    • @enshrinehd
      @enshrinehd 3 месяца назад +8

      After the election of Trmp in 2016 I was one of those freakt out libs who followed lib instructions to call in their concerns to the F.B.I .......it wasn't long after that when I saw how wrong I was.

  • @tedbendixson
    @tedbendixson 3 месяца назад +43

    I started watching this thinking I wouldn't agree with much of what he has to say, but I found myself agreeing with so much of it

    • @malackaraj
      @malackaraj 2 месяца назад +4

      same here

    • @saattlebrutaz
      @saattlebrutaz 2 месяца назад +1

      What he says is not remotely anything to do with Vance's views. Vance hates Trump and said that clearly many times until he needed to flip. Vance has no complicated views on trade and almost nothing to say about foreign policy. The guy doing the interviewer is basically making it up - substituting some common sense views for Vance

    • @michaelgalt388
      @michaelgalt388 2 месяца назад

      Yeah. The left demonized the word “populist” so much. It’s simply pragmatism. Vance will communicate that in very clear terms.

    • @BCSTS
      @BCSTS 2 месяца назад

      @@saattlebrutaz well then Freddie better interview JD Vance......so we are not misled so much! cuz......I really like what Cass says here !

  • @richcherwalk6349
    @richcherwalk6349 2 месяца назад +15

    Never thought I’d hear a conservative advocate for the working class and production in the u.s., also speaking out against asset appreciation and usury schemes as an economy

  • @molliestanton2869
    @molliestanton2869 2 месяца назад +7

    Some great quotes, Oren-" A healthy economy is one that benefits the average worker."
    Yes, totally agree-a high stock market does not necessarily translate to Main Street, and certainly hasn't, the evidence seen in our shrunken middle class, with increased poverty and homelessness rates.

  • @oliveoil7642
    @oliveoil7642 3 месяца назад +28

    I feel optimistic for our future with intelligent young people like Vance and Cass.

    • @green4black
      @green4black 2 месяца назад

      Funny - I thought “young?! Oren’s gotta be in his mid-50’s!!” I see now he’s only 41. 😅 He looks and seems older.

    • @Evertreynold
      @Evertreynold 2 месяца назад +1

      @@green4black Wisdom always presents older :)

    • @Anna-tj7mp
      @Anna-tj7mp 2 месяца назад

      Vance is barking mad but this man makes sense.

  • @LTVoyager
    @LTVoyager 3 месяца назад +67

    So, just why does Europe think the US should fund the bill for its defense? Can someone explain that to me?

    • @peterweston1356
      @peterweston1356 3 месяца назад +15

      I don’t think anyone can. Some European companies stick to the 2% GDP commitment, which I believe is all that Trump is pushing for and others don’t. In fact I think those Euro countries that do keep the commitment are quietly as annoyed as Trump is about those that don’t.

    • @miketomlin6040
      @miketomlin6040 2 месяца назад

      Europe does not think the USA should fund defence. Europe believes those with the most money should protect democracy all over the world, to safeguard Europe and the USA! The problem now is Trump is Anti Democracy, so Europe should abandon links to the USA if he wins again!

    • @bellakrinkle9381
      @bellakrinkle9381 2 месяца назад

      Few realize that the Europeans are vassals of the US. Did they always believe that the US would defend them when the going gets tough? They are naive.

    • @iwanagohome326
      @iwanagohome326 2 месяца назад

      The US wanted NATO to expand eastward, with the ultimate aim to regime change the leadership in Russia and eventually to balksnize Russia to steal its magnificent vast resources. Putin rightly protects his country's sovereignty and this doesn't sit well with the American Neocons one bit

    • @Khello-d3y
      @Khello-d3y 2 месяца назад +6

      So the US can dictate to Europe NATO's agenda as it did regarding Ukraine, Afghanistan, Libya, and other stupid and costly ventures.

  • @damagingthebrand7387
    @damagingthebrand7387 3 месяца назад +84

    The Neo-con Republicans were from 1981 to 2008. They were entirely different than the traditional Republican party, and has more in common with the new Democrats.

    • @ohsweetmystery
      @ohsweetmystery 3 месяца назад +13

      Neolib = neocon, no difference

    • @damagingthebrand7387
      @damagingthebrand7387 3 месяца назад +5

      @@ohsweetmystery exactly.

    • @WinstonSmithGPT
      @WinstonSmithGPT 3 месяца назад +4

      @@ohsweetmysterySimilar, the word neocon tends to focus solely on imperialism.

    • @ObjectiveMedia
      @ObjectiveMedia 3 месяца назад +11

      @@WinstonSmithGPT broadly speaking neoliberalism is imperialism by economic means, neoconservatism is imperialism by conventional means. Both serve the same interests.

    • @oliveoil7642
      @oliveoil7642 3 месяца назад

      Globalist self centred profiteers !

  • @chrissi3193
    @chrissi3193 2 месяца назад +5

    A joy to hear such a calmly authoritative and decent bloke, speaking as a young and bright achiever with a moral compass . That now makes him a cultural asset that ought to shake up the western world .
    Love from England, the futures brighter for Mr Trump.
    Good interview too, well conducted and good questions that help the rest of us.

  • @malackaraj
    @malackaraj 2 месяца назад +5

    Super interesting, it is really refreshing to hear clear thoughts like this. I am also hopeful about JD Vance. Cheers - from Europe.

  • @jozsefnemeth935
    @jozsefnemeth935 3 месяца назад +30

    The Gladen Pippen interview was also very informative. JD Vance praised Hungary for its policies for families.

  • @matt96920
    @matt96920 3 месяца назад +52

    Unherd really is an awesome platform.

    • @nokateno
      @nokateno 3 месяца назад +4

      getting better*

  • @johnodonoghue651
    @johnodonoghue651 3 месяца назад +172

    Freddy, Bill Kristol left the RNC in 2018 and voted for Joe Biden. Geez, get your facts straight.

    • @saattlebrutaz
      @saattlebrutaz 2 месяца назад +6

      The GOP left the GOP. There is no more GOP it's just the Trump party

    • @aesop1451
      @aesop1451 2 месяца назад +1

      "For at a pivotal time in my life, Barack Obama gave me hope that a boy who grew up like me could still achieve the most important of my dreams. For that, I’ll miss him, and the example he set." - JD Vance, Barack Obama and Me, New York Times, January 02, 2017. In 2016 he was a Never Trumper that voted for CIA glowniger Evan McMullin, who was also supported by neocon Irving Kristol.

    • @ChristianRoman-f9g
      @ChristianRoman-f9g 2 месяца назад

      ​@@aesop1451😮

    • @OliviaHacking-kf7px
      @OliviaHacking-kf7px 2 месяца назад +3

      aesop - that proves he has matured and as a more informed person from his personal experience, is intelligent enough to realise he was perhaps wrong in the past.
      Who WASN'T taken in by the articulate, highly polished marketing product of Obama ????? I was and boy was it a HUGE mistake. He turned out to be the opposite to that PR packaged product reintroducing race divisions that haven't been so bad since the 60's. Also conveniently forgetting he is half white , let's not even go there.
      As for allowing himself to be filmed while watching the demise of Bin Laden as if it were an action movie....... INHUMAIN and crass in the extreme.
      Vance and Trump have one important thing in common, they love America and the people in it.
      Since the Clinton's, that's not happened as greed and political criminality took over. Time to rebalance the scales.

  • @Uarehere
    @Uarehere 2 месяца назад +3

    Middle aged American here. I've *never* voted for a Republican at the federal level, but I am enthusiastically supporting *Trump/Vance* this year!

  • @Dave183
    @Dave183 2 месяца назад +5

    It is interesting and intriguing to see a younger generation discussing and debating issues. I am 73 years old- and I live in New Zealand. Around the world I believe that all thinking people need influence. Rather than being "trash news"or "fake news" I think that online information will be nuanced, and relevant.

  • @jurirandow
    @jurirandow 3 месяца назад +28

    Refreshing to see that there are people in US politics who make sense and are able to use common sense and reason.

    • @nokateno
      @nokateno 3 месяца назад +6

      …speaking in full sentences and such…

  • @gavinfoley103
    @gavinfoley103 3 месяца назад +29

    This guy was interesting. Thanks.

  • @tg5372
    @tg5372 3 месяца назад +23

    As always, Freddie, excellent questions. Thank you for the guest.

  • @jamesgoode9246
    @jamesgoode9246 2 месяца назад +5

    At 31:40, I heard a comment about "for every Libertarian that you lose ...."
    I don't understand it.
    I view myself to be Libertarian, and I doubt Trump losing my support.
    I think that his four years out of office have helped mature him.

    • @denyamyers9622
      @denyamyers9622 2 месяца назад +1

      Yes, And he now knows what he is dealing with! TG We Have Mr. ZTrump

  • @RicoMusap-te3om
    @RicoMusap-te3om 2 месяца назад +3

    GOD BLESSING America land that i love stand beside her and guide her through the night with a light from above!!!!!🎉🎉

  • @davidmccabe1959
    @davidmccabe1959 3 месяца назад +18

    Well done to Freddie and Unheard. This man was an excellent guest who was able to articulate in a very clear way the key issues of concern to an awful lot of people. It is time for disruptive change post haste. Ordinary people and families need help

    • @saattlebrutaz
      @saattlebrutaz 2 месяца назад

      Those views have nothing to do with Vance's views.

  • @stevealba4599
    @stevealba4599 3 месяца назад +18

    🎯 Key points for quick navigation:
    00:02 *🚨 JD Vance, author and Senator from Ohio, has been named Donald Trump's vice presidential running mate, causing widespread panic among Democrats and some Republicans.*
    00:43 *🗣️ Prominent Republicans, including Bill Kristol and Liz Cheney, express serious concerns about Vance's controversial views and potential actions if elected.*
    01:20 *🧠 The discussion aims to understand JD Vance's worldview and the philosophy of the "New Right" movement he represents.*
    01:33 *🌐 Oren Cass, a leader in the same political wing as Vance, joins the discussion to provide insights into the movement and its implications on American politics.*
    02:01 *🏢 Vance's ties with the American Compass Group and FTC chairwoman Lena Khan cause alarm among top business executives.*
    02:27 *🔄 Cass describes the ideological shift within the Republican Party from traditional conservative values to a focus on working-class base and community interests.*
    03:22 *📚 Vance's complex personal history, from a difficult childhood to a Silicon Valley investor, shapes his political views and potential policies.*
    04:29 *💼 The emergence of a new generation of conservatives who are disillusioned with traditional capitalist pathways and seeking reforms.*
    07:19 *🌍 Discussion on the inadequacy of the Republican Party's old free trade policies, emphasizing the need for a revised approach towards China and trade.*
    09:39 *🔄 The "New Right" advocates for a balanced trade policy and a strong industrial base in America, highlighting the importance of manufacturing and production for national prosperity.*
    11:39 *🛠️ Discussion of implementing tariffs and industrial policies to support domestic production and address economic disparities.*
    13:04 *📉 Critique of the valuation-driven tech industry, arguing that its financial success does not translate to broad economic prosperity or job creation.*
    16:10 *🔍 Potential regulatory actions against tech monopolies to foster competition and address market distortions.*
    18:56 *📈 Skepticism about the sustainability of the American tech sector's growth, emphasizing the need to address underlying economic issues rather than just stock market performance.*
    23:12 *🤔 Oren Cass expresses skepticism that Donald Trump fully embodies the ideology of the "New Right," despite selecting J.D. Vance as his running mate.*
    23:37 *🇺🇸 The choice of J.D. Vance as VP suggests a strategic alignment with his views, potentially influencing future policy directions.*
    24:03 *🔄 Discusses the long-term direction of the conservative movement in the U.S. beyond Trump's era, emphasizing ideological shifts within the Republican Party.*
    24:45 *🤝 Cass highlights the importance of defining the post-Trump era for the health of the conservative movement and the broader United States.*
    25:24 *🌍 Explains Vance's stance on NATO and his criticisms of European countries not meeting their obligations, which influences U.S. foreign policy.*
    26:07 *📉 Vance's leadership on the Ukraine issue in the Senate emphasizes a strategic and budget-conscious approach rather than an isolationist stance.*
    27:01 *🌐 Cass argues for a U.S. foreign policy that prioritizes strategic interests, especially concerning China, over broad hegemonic pursuits.*
    27:41 *⚖️ European allies may face increased pressure to self-defend, aligning with a realignment of NATO responsibilities under potential Trump administration.*
    28:09 *🏗️ Advocates for prioritizing major global threats, specifically the challenge posed by China, in U.S. foreign policy.*
    29:16 *🛠️ Discusses potential changes in labor policy, indicating a shift towards enhancing worker power within the Republican agenda.*
    30:11 *📈 Highlights a paradigm shift in the Republican view towards labor, emphasizing the importance of good outcomes for workers as essential to successful economic policy.*
    31:35 *🔄 Speculates on a political realignment, with working-class Americans increasingly supporting the Republican Party due to economic policies favoring labor.*
    Made with HARPA AI

  • @mandyshanks2327
    @mandyshanks2327 3 месяца назад +13

    So pleased to hear that you will address monopolies and anti competitive practices.

  • @lilawagner3726
    @lilawagner3726 2 месяца назад +4

    'way back when, a dock worker wrote about The True Believer. His thesis is that it is quite common for someone to swing from one extreme ideology to the exact opposite ideology. Maybe that is a clue about J. D. Vance.

  • @adamnoble1689
    @adamnoble1689 3 месяца назад +9

    This was better than I thought. A fresh and well perched guest

  • @chrismai1889
    @chrismai1889 3 месяца назад +18

    exactly what I have been looking for, thanks !

  • @randomname2366
    @randomname2366 3 месяца назад +30

    Lol speaking about protectionism not working yet you referenced Reagan forcing Japanese auto markers being forced to build cars here. That move created hundreds of thousands of jobs for decades and provided billions in tax revenue. I think it’s clear that trade needs to be to the best of the countries involved in it.

    • @mlh5434
      @mlh5434 2 месяца назад

      It already is the best, otherwise consumers wouldn't be engaging in the trade to begin with. Trade always makes both parties better off, otherwise the parties wouldn't be engaging in the trade.

    • @johnshelton1141
      @johnshelton1141 2 месяца назад

      Parity and reciprocity

    • @alvarobarcala
      @alvarobarcala 2 месяца назад

      Man, that was ages ago. Now manufacturing/producing everything in the USA would be, and is, hyper expensive. No companies could support that, and consumers would not consume anything that comes from the USA, and instead would buy products from competitive countries that share trade and production in a global sense. Even Trump totally knows that, but he just say what people with no education want to hear to get votes and power. And in America people with no education is the huge majority... that's why Trump does that. Actually that's the main reason why American politicians keep American population so un-educated.

  • @donnakrosp3734
    @donnakrosp3734 2 месяца назад +1

    I love JD Vance!! He is a courageous, accomplished, real, truthful man and we need him!!!!

  • @RobertaPeck
    @RobertaPeck 2 месяца назад +1

    So well articulated!!!!

  • @AndrewDunn-lw2uu
    @AndrewDunn-lw2uu 3 месяца назад +25

    I enjoy Oren Cass

  • @davidharrington1133
    @davidharrington1133 3 месяца назад +33

    Vance's back story and path to the role of VP is utterly inspiring, the absolute encapsulation of the American Dream.
    It has long been my belief that anyone who wants to be a politician should be immediately barred from ever being one, it is refreshing to see a reluctant politician called to high office by another reluctant politician.
    Fantastic pick as a life insurance guarantee for Trump. Definitely needs that after recent events.

    • @ricksmith4736
      @ricksmith4736 2 месяца назад +1

      Why is he married to a Progressive HINDU Foreigner

    • @saattlebrutaz
      @saattlebrutaz 2 месяца назад

      He spent most of his time until 2016 calling Trump an insane fascist danger. Several times. Then he flipped all of his opinions.

    • @davidharrington1133
      @davidharrington1133 2 месяца назад +1

      @@saattlebrutaz You mean he changed his mind!! What a bastard.

    • @christophercooper2208
      @christophercooper2208 2 месяца назад

      ​@@ricksmith4736because he loves her

    • @christophercooper2208
      @christophercooper2208 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@saattlebrutazguys entitled to change his mind isn't he

  • @djnv4702
    @djnv4702 3 месяца назад +41

    Those voices USED to speak for the RNC, but when the DNC became the party of large corporations and told a good percentage of their blue collar voters that they were deplorables, right at the same time Trump came on the scene, there was a huge shift in the voters. Sadly, there are still old guard republicans who align very nicely with dnc-often voting along with them.

    • @christopherflux6254
      @christopherflux6254 3 месяца назад

      Hillary Clinton called 50% Trump voters ‘deplorable’.
      JD Vance called 100% Trump voters ‘idiots’.
      So a man who was twice as harsh on Trump voters as Hillary was, is now Trumps right hand man?
      He doesn’t seem like a very trustworthy or principled person to me.

    • @lavander63859
      @lavander63859 3 месяца назад +11

      @@christopherflux6254Vance as many others said that in 2016 when Trump was running for President. And then they saw what he was doing and they liked it.

    • @BrianButterworth-s4z
      @BrianButterworth-s4z 2 месяца назад

      Both parties are one and support the oligarchs. They don't represent the people.

    • @drewj4297
      @drewj4297 2 месяца назад +1

      If I recall correctly, didn’t Trump give tax breaks to corporations during his presidency. I remember the left throwing a fit about that

    • @BrianButterworth-s4z
      @BrianButterworth-s4z 2 месяца назад

      @drewj4297 He did. And he oversaw the the most creation of fiat in the entire history of the US. Biden is right behind and that's why the whole world has inflation.

  • @jonageskuland
    @jonageskuland 2 месяца назад +1

    Message to Europe from a European: build your own defence!!! For 30 years you have been downplaying defence, to your own detriment. Change! 😊

  • @captainnerd6452
    @captainnerd6452 2 месяца назад +5

    There's a big difference between "Globalism" and "Internationalism". Trump and apparently Vance are internationalists, where sovereign independent nations can cooperate in common interests, but do so without ceding control to others. Globalism wants to unite all nations into a central authority that directs the actions of increasingly unimportant national governments.

    • @jirislavicek9954
      @jirislavicek9954 2 месяца назад

      Globalism must be fought at all costs. For the sake of all people on the entire planet including Americans

  • @andrewbaldwin4454
    @andrewbaldwin4454 3 месяца назад +51

    It was good of Freddie to interview a friend of the great JD Vance, which I didn’t really expect he would do. Even when he does this though, he just can’t keep his disdain for Trump allies down. That is why he superselectively chooses a quote from JD about how he doesn’t really care about Ukraine, even though that doesn’t fairly represent his views about Ukrainians. In his 2023 speech on foreign policy:
    ruclips.net/video/TTVVtEwbzXg/видео.html
    JD speaks about how he admires the bravery and courage of Ukrainian troops, as virtually everyone does. At the same time, he condemns the corruption of the Ukrainian government and bureaucracy, which he calls, with some exaggeration perhaps, the most corrupt in Europe. (The perceptions of corruption index published by Transparency International indicates that Ukraine to be a less corrupt country than Russia.) Freddie just ignores the almost unanswerable argument that JD makes that the US government is trying to help Ukraine win an unwinnable war, or at least pretending it wants to help them win that war. All credit to JD for seeing things as they are, when so many other prominent Americans are addicted to Hopium.

    • @jozsefnemeth935
      @jozsefnemeth935 3 месяца назад +12

      He could not put it better w.r.t. Ukraine: ' Ok,.what is the plan? ' Is there a plan at all? What a good in their for Ukraine? What is the USA priority? USA has pushed Russia to China with the lack of diplomacy.

    • @codyvandal2860
      @codyvandal2860 3 месяца назад +10

      "Prolonging a terrible war in Ukraine because it good for American business is grotesque."

    • @WinstonSmithGPT
      @WinstonSmithGPT 3 месяца назад

      Ukraine was universally called the most corrupt country in Europe for many many years before he arrived on the scene.

    • @peterweston1356
      @peterweston1356 3 месяца назад +4

      Even UNHERD should play polemical from to time. For me it’s not the content of the question, it’s the style and respect a media type show the interviewee across the whole interview. I DO want UNHERD to cherry pick to make a counter case. But I also want them to listen to the answer, clarify and move on, which mainly I think they do. Many mainstream outlets often prepare one or two lines of attack and make the discussion personal. Marr and Tice recently comes to mind.
      Perspectives are subjective, we all filter differently. Im not looking to change your mind. Your statement did allow me to clarify, for me, as to why I like UNHERD, thanks.

    • @andrewbaldwin4454
      @andrewbaldwin4454 3 месяца назад +6

      @@peterweston1356 Thank you for your reply, Peter. Yes, Freddie was and always is a respectful interviewer. He let Oren Cass make his case without interrupting him, and that was good. And sure, an interviewer has a right to act polemical. It seemed to me that in his intro though, Freddie went beyond the polemical to outright disinformation. He claimed that J.D. Vance’s nomination alarmed the Republican establishment. Really? His nomination was approved by the convention with no open dissent. I’m sure that some NATO warmonger nutcases like Lindsay Graham weren’t happy with the pick, but one of the other people Trump was considering for VP, the governor of North Dakota, had only good things to say about JD after the announcement was made. I still think Freddie should work a little harder to keep his obvious anti-Trump views in check when they lead to sloppy journalism.

  • @joeswampdawghenry
    @joeswampdawghenry 3 месяца назад +19

    Thanku for well mannered speaking mate

  • @richardyates7280
    @richardyates7280 3 месяца назад +17

    Fascinating discussion. Thank you

  • @fraa888grindr6
    @fraa888grindr6 2 месяца назад +1

    This conversation has earned Unherd a Sub. I appreciate this balanced format.

  • @thereturnoffrancesblogg
    @thereturnoffrancesblogg 2 месяца назад +1

    Free trade is one thing: selling the soul of our national security and sovereignty is something else altogether. 😢

  • @edwinblake
    @edwinblake 3 месяца назад +13

    Very educational. Glad to see the interest in workers and the opposition to monopolies.

  • @joeswampdawghenry
    @joeswampdawghenry 3 месяца назад +113

    War profiteer pirate.. Liz chaeney

    • @smb123211
      @smb123211 2 месяца назад

      You win the award for Dumbass Post of the Day Liz Cheney (do you even know who she is?) voted with Trump 94% of the time, one of the highest. Jesus! What is wrong with people?

    • @saattlebrutaz
      @saattlebrutaz 2 месяца назад

      How?

    • @marcusaurelius9123
      @marcusaurelius9123 2 месяца назад +1

      Her dad definitely

    • @smb123211
      @smb123211 2 месяца назад

      @@marcusaurelius9123 I assume you have reliable source?

    • @smb123211
      @smb123211 2 месяца назад

      @@saattlebrutaz Get serious. This crew practices "talking points" news. They see someone making some dumbass claim and instantly repeat it regardless of its idiocy.

  • @trudykrkoska7216
    @trudykrkoska7216 3 месяца назад +12

    This guest is interesting and makes sense.

  • @debimt
    @debimt 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you! You are a genuis! Thats so true about Google and Facebook a monopoly inn marketing! You made my day ❤️

  • @Indivisible_Individual
    @Indivisible_Individual 2 месяца назад +6

    This Cass guy is right about one thing: it’s a myth that the right has ever been the champion of free markets. If you don’t realize that the key word in free markets is “free” (not under the control or in the power of another) and that the opposite of free is slave, that’s understandable. These are pretty abstract concepts that take a lot of thought to fully understand (it took the founders years to understand, articulate, and form a government built on them). But until you understand freedom, until you fully embrace freedom, until you advocate for freedom, and until you support politicians who fight for freedom, don’t call yourself an American patriot. Instead, be honest and call yourself what you are: an authoritarian (of, relating to, or favoring blind submission to authority).

    • @shawnaweesner3759
      @shawnaweesner3759 2 месяца назад

      Unfortunately, most people like to be told what to do. Human beings are similar to sheep.

    • @Indivisible_Individual
      @Indivisible_Individual 2 месяца назад

      @@shawnaweesner3759I don’t think most people are sheep. I think most people are trying to do the right thing, but have been sold bad ideas. I brought up the founders because even as amazing as they were, they were all just human. All that separates them from most is a conviction that ideas matter and a dedication to thinking - things within the realm of possibility for all humans.

  • @blueeyes402
    @blueeyes402 3 месяца назад +22

    The fear of Catholic reason still haunts the US/UK 'freemasonic order'.

  • @daniellediamond5037
    @daniellediamond5037 3 месяца назад +13

    Wow. This guy makes a lot of sense. 🤯

  • @kkrenken895
    @kkrenken895 3 месяца назад +6

    People are first and foremost human beings - valuable no matter what.

  • @finn3408
    @finn3408 2 месяца назад +1

    Lower federal taxes on everything

  • @bobwhite2
    @bobwhite2 2 месяца назад +1

    He’s the VP. By what the media has made of it you’d think he’s running against Kamala. He will easily do more than Kamala has done, NOTHING. That be zero.

    • @joeharris3878
      @joeharris3878 2 месяца назад

      1 really like Vance .But if things go well
      ( like pulling out of Ukraine ) he'd be in line for president in 2028
      so what he does the coming term is pretty important .

  • @Michaelfrikkie
    @Michaelfrikkie 3 месяца назад +33

    I could not have asked for a better introduction to the new emerging US!

    • @drewj4297
      @drewj4297 2 месяца назад +1

      Agreed. I find Trump deplorable. I’m a working class guy who is socially liberal. So I have gravitated to the left. If the “new right” is against free trade and pro worker I can agree with that. However, I don’t agree with their social conservatism, the racist elements on the right, and the Christian right.

    • @Michaelfrikkie
      @Michaelfrikkie 2 месяца назад

      @@drewj4297 I find myself and all humans to be deplorable and in need of salvation. It gives many of us the fortitude necessary to find the best in other people and see how evil can be overcome.

    • @luisbarbosa8136
      @luisbarbosa8136 2 месяца назад

      @@drewj4297 go woke then..

    • @sanniepstein4835
      @sanniepstein4835 2 месяца назад

      ​@@drewj4297what racist elements?

    • @drewj4297
      @drewj4297 2 месяца назад

      @@sanniepstein4835 There is clear racism on the right. If you aren’t aware of it you aren’t paying attention. Google “Unite the Right Rally.” Then start paying attention

  • @sansacro007
    @sansacro007 3 месяца назад +24

    The hysteria is ridiculous: he is not an isolationist nor for abolishing abortion (he's leaving it to the states; and that is a correct move). Love that phrase "fascist adjacent"? Musk!? I guess I'm fascist adjacent too. Oh, well. . .

    • @WinstonSmithGPT
      @WinstonSmithGPT 3 месяца назад +2

      The left is making fascism look more appealing every day.

  • @mmaximk
    @mmaximk 3 месяца назад +8

    Thank you for a very informative interview.

  • @vmorr1
    @vmorr1 2 месяца назад +1

    God forbid the well-being of the country as a whole come before fully lining your pockets. Protectionist sounds an awful like being called a 'phobe or racist these days.

  • @UKtoUSABrit
    @UKtoUSABrit 2 месяца назад +1

    VERY impressed with Oren Kass. He laid everything out beautifully. Very enlightening. His logic resonates well.

  • @sharonfarrelly7146
    @sharonfarrelly7146 3 месяца назад +16

    This guy being interviewed is utterly spot on..

    • @saattlebrutaz
      @saattlebrutaz 2 месяца назад

      Those are standard, traditional Republican views and have nothing to do with Trumpism.

  • @kchong53
    @kchong53 3 месяца назад +5

    Win win is fair to everyone. The idea of I win and you lose is just does not work!

  • @BCSTS
    @BCSTS 3 месяца назад +7

    Well done, Freddie !

  • @billyliar1614
    @billyliar1614 2 месяца назад +5

    I've long thought that myself, that social conservatism is actually much more closely aligned with economic policies which have a larger role for the state, than liberalism is with economic libertarianism. People tend to drift towards social conservatism when they are feeling economically insecure but they will miss their freedoms when they're taken away, and then they'll be wanting to pelt him with rancid tomatoes. What people actually want is economic security and the freedom to make their own choices at the same time - is that really such a big ask ?

    • @sanniepstein4835
      @sanniepstein4835 2 месяца назад

      Do you support free choice if the choices aren't woke? What do you mean by security?

    • @billyliar1614
      @billyliar1614 2 месяца назад +2

      Yes I support free choices across the board but what conservative free choices would you be referring to, out of interest ? What do I mean by security ? Well, everyone having secure accommodation as an absolute bare minimum for starters which would require intervention/regulation of the market and the undermining of landlords profits. Otherwise, collapsing birthrate. Economic security is a standard of living which meets everyone's human need for shelter, food, healthcare and low crime. Neoliberalism only really secures these for the top half of the population.

  • @brendancorrigan
    @brendancorrigan 2 месяца назад +3

    This is quite refreshing and debunks this idea that conservativism equals unrestrained free market capitalism.
    Traditional conservativism stands up for the worker, the family, the community.
    The free market cares little for them, the individual is merely a commodity.

  • @AllanHinde-mb2pr
    @AllanHinde-mb2pr 3 месяца назад +70

    He seems like a decent guy, hasn’t said anything wrong

    • @christopherflux6254
      @christopherflux6254 3 месяца назад +6

      He said the UK was the world’s first Islamic nuclear power. Pakistan have had nukes for decades. So that’s one thing he’s got wrong.

    • @stellarjayatkins4749
      @stellarjayatkins4749 3 месяца назад +17

      @@christopherflux6254no, he said he was “joking with a friend” that it “might become the first”. Was he technically wrong? Yes. Was he rhetorically wrong? No.

    • @blanemckay9278
      @blanemckay9278 3 месяца назад

      @@christopherflux6254you can’t spot a joke when you hear one. Go for a walk and assess your life

    • @bazstraight8797
      @bazstraight8797 3 месяца назад +1

      @@stellarjayatkins4749 seems like evidence that Oren Cass doesn't know much about the world beyond the USA. So his ideas about what are US international interests could well be sketchy (ie unwise).

    • @mcgilcol
      @mcgilcol 3 месяца назад

      ​@@bazstraight8797Cass is no different than most Americans who typically don't know very much about foreign countries nor their histories. On the other hand I don't sense that he has very strong opinions about foreign policy outside of its economic effects upon American workers -- nothing wrong with that, really.

  • @garbonomics
    @garbonomics 3 месяца назад +4

    So, I’m a member of the “new right,” so to speak. However, one thing to take from this conversation is that the new right is diverse in ideas. For example, I am a free trader with some caveats regarding China. I don’t share the particular view he is outlining, except for the obvious overlap that we must start focusing on a significant amount of the ever growing problems at home. This is why I preferred Vivek to JD although I like JD for a significant amount of other reasons.

  • @snowbirdsurfer2474
    @snowbirdsurfer2474 3 месяца назад +8

    Y’all ignored Patrick Buchanan for years… until his ideas ate the Republican Party. 😂

    • @rosihantu1
      @rosihantu1 3 месяца назад +4

      Pat was a true patriot unlike the Neocons

    • @spudbono5747
      @spudbono5747 2 месяца назад

      😅 that's actually kinda true. Sure miss the Mclaughlin group. Bye BYE!

    • @mlh5434
      @mlh5434 2 месяца назад +1

      Buchanan was definitely ahead of his time. We should stop all of these trade deals and starting making everything domestically instead...like the North Koreans do.

  • @Johnny-dp5mu
    @Johnny-dp5mu 2 месяца назад +3

    Fellow you saying what my finance professor said way back in the 1960s...you and he are 100% wrong because trade is NOT a level playing relationship -- if it was ideal level -- ovee time labor and other disadvantages and advantages would level out to the benefit of both parties. This is not realistic and as we see some leveling adjustments are handled by tariffs. Vance and Trump are on the better route.
    Is it going to work? Somewhat. Government greed and warring messes up all the beneficial trade and relationships...humans have not changed...have they?
    All the very best and thank you for your thoughts.

  • @jasoncredille634
    @jasoncredille634 2 месяца назад +1

    About damn time someone talks about tariffs. Our government is supposed to be making its money from tariffs on imports and exports. It's not supposed to be making its money from the unconstitutional practice of taxing our time. Taxing imports and exports is good for us as it encourages us to be self reliant instead of dependent upon other countries for our survival. If we export nothing but import everything and even send our manufacturing base to foreign countries as we do then all our money goes out of the country. Pretty easy to see how our middle-class got hollowed out and why so many struggle just to make it when our grandparents had the opportunity to work normal working class jobs and live pretty comfortably with only one spouse working

    • @gregb6469
      @gregb6469 2 месяца назад

      In 1950 the average income family could realistically consider buying a house. Today such families can not do so.

  • @suedavis1781
    @suedavis1781 3 месяца назад +5

    Please invite Dan Davies on UnHerd to discuss his new book on unaccountability and talk about how each of the polarized US parties and other nations either acknowledge and struggle with this phenomenon, or are entirely unaware of (the lack of) accountability. Thanks.

  • @toddfulton2280
    @toddfulton2280 2 месяца назад +3

    Go to any art gallery, and you quickly realize that value is subjective. All I hear is "people are doing things that I don't value. Therefore, the government should step in."

  • @winstonschwarz1636
    @winstonschwarz1636 3 месяца назад +19

    Hilly Billy Elegy is a great book.

    • @andrewbaldwin4454
      @andrewbaldwin4454 3 месяца назад +7

      And so is Hillbilly Elegy

    • @johntalbot134
      @johntalbot134 2 месяца назад

      @@andrewbaldwin4454If you liked those two books, you’ll love Hilly Billy Ellie Jellie

  • @patriciamichael8545
    @patriciamichael8545 2 месяца назад +1

    I really like JD Vance

  • @TheWhitehiker
    @TheWhitehiker 2 месяца назад +1

    Isnt this supposed to be about Vance?
    Nevertheless, a good analysis by Cass.
    Henry Ford realized a hundred years ago that higher wages allowed for more buying of his own and others' products.

  • @mitchtupelo76
    @mitchtupelo76 3 месяца назад +4

    Although the founding fathers generally opposed protectionist tariffs, almost all the functions of government were funded through import tariffs and most taxes on the populace did not exist.
    The thing I've noticed about a lot of free trade advocates is that they don't include citizen to citizen trade in that. They're happy to tax ordinary people into abject poverty, but don't want any of these "barriers to trade" (taxes/tariffs) on imports.
    If you need to violate some free trade to fund even a nightwatchman state, why not pick the least invasive possible tax - an import tariff? Why pick an intricate web of income taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, payroll taxes, capital gains taxes, money printer go 'burrrr' taxes, inheritance taxes, and sin taxes which require controlling and surveilling all interactions between citizens?
    Maybe that's the idea.

  • @MessedUpHare
    @MessedUpHare 2 месяца назад +4

    The world needs more anti-trust. Working in tech, it's made me despondent that a primary goal of most small tech companies is to sell to one of the big three.

  • @starfish253
    @starfish253 3 месяца назад +12

    What the guest is saying about productive capitalism versus increasing wealth from shuffling pieces of paper is no different from what China is also focused on… a backlash on financial companies who make money out of thin air..

  • @CARLOSSTREMS51
    @CARLOSSTREMS51 2 месяца назад +1

    Finally I hear someone talking about the truth of business with China. a lot of the industry has to go back to the USA xq already with the salaries of the moment you can compete and the USA always manufactured quality products and China manufactures

  • @Welbourne16
    @Welbourne16 2 месяца назад +1

    No mention of 'imigration/deportation'??

  • @richardcameron3762
    @richardcameron3762 3 месяца назад +10

    So essentially a regression back to Left policies. Win win really.
    Rise of unions
    Rise of solid jobs which in turn solidifies family’s.
    Nowt new here.

    • @peterweston1356
      @peterweston1356 3 месяца назад +3

      I think you are right, socially conservative economically ‘mixed’ ….