Managing Hand Pain for Artists

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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024

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  • @queertales
    @queertales 7 лет назад +95

    Swimming really worked for me. It helps strengthen your arm and wrist, without putting too much strain on it.

    • @csoniah4432
      @csoniah4432 4 года назад +3

      I thought you said smiling lmao

    • @dikabagas812
      @dikabagas812 3 года назад

      I have no pool and there is no public pool nearby, only river but dirty so bad.

    • @bellabrostiling831
      @bellabrostiling831 3 года назад

      Yeah nah

    • @justmilkcat6274
      @justmilkcat6274 Год назад

      Oh, I wonder if archery could help with this? If it is, it’d be amazing

  • @artfulstationer
    @artfulstationer 7 лет назад +101

    It might be a bit extreme but I taught myself to use a mouse with my left hand. This allowed me to split the use on mice and drawing instruments between my hands reducing any stress by ~50%. It took me a while to become proficient but now it's second nature. Great stretching tips too, I'll try these. Thanks!

    • @BrandonDayton
      @BrandonDayton  7 лет назад +13

      That's brilliant, and kind of amazing. I don't know if I'm willing to go to those lengths, but it makes sense. However you can give your right hand a break!

    • @artfulstationer
      @artfulstationer 7 лет назад +1

      Yeah it was not easy, I think it took me about a year or so to get back to some level of proficiency. But I figured it would just take time, and I'm not getting younger so. That was almost 20 years ago and it was a good move because for work I also use a 3D mouse so I am now more efficient and use less keystrokes/mouse clicks which also help. Again not for everybody but I think anybody can do it.

    • @peppa_jack
      @peppa_jack 5 лет назад

      @ReiSutoikku same here

  • @mg-wj8mp
    @mg-wj8mp 4 года назад +152

    I can't rest I have to draw

    • @nicholaspitti8171
      @nicholaspitti8171 3 года назад

      Epic.

    • @actualgarbage8549
      @actualgarbage8549 3 года назад +1

      lol

    • @mohammedaltahhan1389
      @mohammedaltahhan1389 8 месяцев назад +2

      That's exactly what have gotten my wrist pain to last for 8 months now and still not decreasing.

    • @bottonfluff837
      @bottonfluff837 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@mohammedaltahhan1389 same it sucks sm I want to draw so bad but even just drawing for a lil bit hurts and I can't hold for too long. ; m ;

    • @mg-wj8mp
      @mg-wj8mp 3 месяца назад +1

      @@bottonfluff837 hey i found out wearing a wrist brace helps alot cause it forces me to use my arm for drawing instead of my wrist

  • @LiLi-xi2dl
    @LiLi-xi2dl 10 месяцев назад +3

    Studying architecture and its definetely taking a toll on me. But it's tough because I can't afford hand pain when chasing deadlines

  • @fancykid12345678
    @fancykid12345678 4 года назад +20

    When you sleep wear wrist splint.....
    Trust me while you sleep your wrist goes through a lot of bad posture and twists and turns

  • @raphfelix6305
    @raphfelix6305 6 лет назад +37

    i have RSI real bad. been trying to get rid of it. it was misdiagnosed as Carpal Tunnel , and had to wear wrist braces. that just made it worse. my wrists shrank. and I lost strength in them. rather than getting better, it set me back even further. Now I am learning to properly deal with it. and get back to art. its been almost 2yrs. the road is long. I aint getting any younger either. so it will be something special when I begin to Artisticate once again.

    • @BrandonDayton
      @BrandonDayton  6 лет назад +3

      What did you end up doing that worked for you?

    • @raphfelix6305
      @raphfelix6305 6 лет назад +7

      a few things. stretching properly, warm-up exercises, being cautious not to over-stress elbows, wrists, and fingers. cos that would surely cos mayhem to the work. each day is different. but the warm-ups stay the same. and I recently got a book by Deborah Quilter which helps a lot. The Repetitive Strain Injury Recovery Book. which helps out. that is a damn good book by the way. all I can say is, is that I have to do things very differently now. In fact, it was your video that helped with the beginning of a comeback for me. I had feared total degradation of my hands and art skills. which did happen. now I have to retrain my hand and do art differently. thank you again for making this video. this video was the beginning of a change. the points you made were so helpful. and has given me a renewed sense of reconnecting with my inner artist. thank you so much.

    • @BrandonDayton
      @BrandonDayton  6 лет назад +3

      Hey man. That's so great to hear. I've suffered with issues too, so I get where you're coming from. For me it's all about finding the right way to be active. I find that when I start just avoiding activity, things get worse. I'll have to check out that book!

    • @raphfelix6305
      @raphfelix6305 6 лет назад +1

      no worries

    • @mohammedaltahhan1389
      @mohammedaltahhan1389 8 месяцев назад

      Hey, I am suffering from exactly the same thing! in my right hand which I was told to rest and now my right hand's muscles gotten a lot weaker and made things worse but I am moving my way back up again. I hope you are better now and if you can tell how long it took to get better?

  • @JosephCoco
    @JosephCoco 7 лет назад +33

    There's definitely some helpful stuff in here. I mainly deal with wrist pain from computer activity, but I found the two things which helped me the most was making sure my hands were mostly open when I went to sleep and not having my elbow lower than my hand on my mouse. For the latter, I've used a standing desk or an articulating wrist rest to help out.
    As far as hand pain / artistry goes, I picked up two mini comics from a kinesiologist turned comic artist at SPX a couple years back. It was very specific with advice in terms of when to heat, when to cool, treatments for types of permanent and minor injuries, etc. I could dig up her name if anyone is interested, but I think it's somewhere other than my minis library.

    • @BrandonDayton
      @BrandonDayton  7 лет назад +3

      Yes, that's another thing I probably should have mentioned, and one of the reasons a tablet is kind of better than a Cintiq -- that elbow angle can make a big difference over time. I'd be interested in any other resources you could share. Thanks!

    • @marykate705
      @marykate705 4 года назад +2

      Joseph Coco would GREATLY appreciate to know who this artist is I would love to use this resource! Thank you!!

    • @Dashyrre
      @Dashyrre 4 года назад +2

      BUMP. Would love that info!

  • @PulseUnitedx
    @PulseUnitedx 5 лет назад +32

    I draw 3 hours a day practicing my graffiti styles and my hands always in pain I couldn't even sketch a graffiti style letter without it being in pain

    • @kayaeki
      @kayaeki 4 года назад +7

      what did you do about it??

    • @Wishfull._..Editor57
      @Wishfull._..Editor57 3 года назад

      I watched a video saying drawing an hour makes u better at drawing 😶 so u don't have to sacrifice ur hands

  • @gustavoantonio194
    @gustavoantonio194 4 года назад +5

    i whole heartedly believe in this system of strengthening, rest, and repeat. Also eating a nutritious diet helps with delivery of calcium. One more thing, learning to use your non dominant hand works wonders ^~^. I'm pretty much convinced this is why davinci did it too. to overcome the hand pains, and really save his dominant for his artworks

  • @fraicheness
    @fraicheness 6 лет назад +15

    I can only recommend getting an ergonomic or vertical mouse. I have one from the company Anker. Not only did it solve for me the mouse grip issue, it's also a really cool, kinda SciFi looking piece of design that has been the initiator of many conversations for me.

    • @BrandonDayton
      @BrandonDayton  6 лет назад

      I've never tried using one of those. I'd be curious to see how it works.

  • @andrelopes1113
    @andrelopes1113 5 лет назад +9

    Very good video on the subject! For those who are reading this, GMB or any bodyweight/calisthenics training is very very good for tendons, ligaments and muscles but don't forget to study and know each exercise progression and start from the beginning. Get books, an outdoor training group or a personal trainer in this subject so that you progress properly and injury free. It's even a better excuse to get outside more and it's free (no gym required). Yoga also does wonders to your spine and muscles... fixes your posture if done properly, since you sit a lot and ruin it.
    Also, back pain and neck pain is a big reality in these kind of works/hobbys (because you are still for a long period). Take frequent small brakes to drink water, walk around, talk to someone or do some exercise because OUR BODY needs to MOVE. Just think how many hours your body is still by driving, eating, making art, working (even standing still) , watching tv etc. Pomodoro technique is very useful to keep track of this (there are apps for it too). Why not even do some squats in a 5 min break? why not? :D
    And finally...Art, being a hobby or work, isn't everything so that you have to spend long hours and days on it... go meet friends, be more time with family, get fresh air, get more hobbies if you like.. and again move as much as you can. YOUR Body, Brain and overall life, in the long term, will thank you :)

  • @Spider-Too-Too
    @Spider-Too-Too 7 лет назад +95

    Artist should go to gym and lift weight. Working out our hands and forearm

    • @BrandonDayton
      @BrandonDayton  7 лет назад +8

      Agreed!

    • @petertremblay3725
      @petertremblay3725 4 года назад +12

      @InfamousCrimes Exactly and workout add to the inflammation that drawing already do so you get double the stress and inflammation. I know since i have been there and now i train only 3 time a week just enough to strengthen my arms but not too much to injure myself again.

    • @Dashyrre
      @Dashyrre 4 года назад +1

      @InfamousCrimes
      Work on propper form, neutrally stack your joints (not only for your hands but your whole body) and design adequate programming. With or without previous art-related wrist problems, you can still get hand strain from improper weight or form (Especially not funny when your hand just refuses to just let go off the dumbbells :D).

    • @letstestthisout2798
      @letstestthisout2798 4 года назад +6

      @@Dashyrre A majority of these people probably aren't getting strain from improper weight and form. It's overuse. So adding weighted workouts in addition to the drawing will likely worsen the problem.

    • @captainmoondog1947
      @captainmoondog1947 3 года назад

      I can't I have to draw

  • @appleknocker56
    @appleknocker56 4 года назад +2

    Water therapy was the best thing ever for my hands, wrists, fingers and shoulder but very warm water never cold!!

    • @kayaeki
      @kayaeki 4 года назад

      can you tell more about it??

  • @petertremblay3725
    @petertremblay3725 4 года назад +5

    Watch out with training since workout built inflammation and if you work on top of already inflame arm then it's a recipe to disaster! I know this because i thought that training my arm to get more muscle was about to help solve my rsi problem and it made it worst.

  • @jerbals8626
    @jerbals8626 5 лет назад +6

    Thanks for the video. I recently went more professional and have been upping my daily stretches of drawing and have finally hit this point. The Jiu Jitsu exercise was really cool too and peaked my interest in the versatility of this video because I practice BJJ as well. So it was cool to hear. Thanks again =D

  • @nomadicgamer9466
    @nomadicgamer9466 5 лет назад +5

    This video gives me hope. T_T My hands just started hurting about a week ago and I am just freaking out about it. I don't think it's CT because my pain is along the right side, along the thumb. I feel so ignorant right now, not properly taking care of my wrists and hands. I'm creative and I *need* to create, that's just who I am. So much information in this video for me to take in, thank you about the info about the mouse and about some exercises to do. For me, it hurts to bend my hand backwards, but forwards, it's perfectly fine. I hope this can help me and make the pain go away so I can continue drawing.

    • @selinsuvar8980
      @selinsuvar8980 5 лет назад +2

      Hi! So it's been 3 months since your comment, and I've been wondering if you've come to a better place in your recovery? I'm experiencing the same issue you described, it's been about 5 days since I stopped drawing and I really want to go back to it by the end of the week. I hope you no longer experience pain and can continue your artistic journey without trouble :3

    • @virginiamayers8366
      @virginiamayers8366 3 года назад

      sounds like what I have: osteoarthritis

    • @nomadicgamer9466
      @nomadicgamer9466 3 года назад +1

      @@selinsuvar8980 Hey there. I have no idea why I didn't receive your comment. But, yes. I no longer have those pains anymore. But granted, I've not been drawing as much as I would like but that's from personal things going on in life, not hand pains. What helped for me was doing those exercises, hot/cold therapy and being more mindful and gentle about things. I had bought wrist braces to put on while I slept and that had helped tremendously! I no longer sleep with the braces so ... I do believe there is hope. Just stay mindful. I do hope that one day soon I can get to a place where I can be artistic again but, life kind of got in the way right now. I do hope the same of you - though your comment is a year old. I hope you found some answers and that your hand pain has also gone away.

    • @selinsuvar8980
      @selinsuvar8980 3 года назад +1

      @@nomadicgamer9466 Thank you for taking the time to answer! Since then I have gone through repetitive strain injury twice, and luckily I managed them both with treatments you described. Though I always feared I would do something wrong with them so it's a huge relief they helped you as well, I'll be sure to remember them in case I suffer from RSI again :'D I too am going through an artistic slump because of personal life but am trying my best, you have my best wishes to go through them as well. Hope the creative juices can flow soon!

    • @nomadicgamer9466
      @nomadicgamer9466 3 года назад +1

      @@selinsuvar8980 Thank you! Hopefully once I get to a better place, I can draw again. I'm *so* glad that treatment has helped you. To be an artist and not able to create - and for whatever reason - is the worst feeling. Think of our hands like the way athletes do their bodies - they need to be taken special care of. :p Much peace to you. I hope that your artistic journey can flourish and be pain free.

  • @corykerr
    @corykerr 7 лет назад +9

    Watching this video made my hands hurt! Kidding, I've found those Gyroscope Powerballs are AWESOME for the forearm/hand strength. Completely solved my hand pain. I'm going to start doing that paper crumple dealio.

    • @BrandonDayton
      @BrandonDayton  7 лет назад +1

      I'll have to check that out. It looks like they are supposed to do some good for your shoulders too (which I could def. use). Thanks for the tip!

    • @corykerr
      @corykerr 7 лет назад

      I have shoulder issues and the best thing I've found is called a "body blade." A little on the pricey side, but they're magic. I used one for a month and it fixed a 10 year old volleyball/football injury from high school.
      I love these videos. Keep it up!

    • @BrandonDayton
      @BrandonDayton  7 лет назад +1

      Now I imagine your garage being this place full of bizarre rehab devices.

    • @corykerr
      @corykerr 7 лет назад +1

      Brandon Dayton I wish you were wrong... I'm fairly accident prone... check out my "the road tried to kill me" video for some recent and entertaining examples. I'm still messed up from that trip (it's only been a week)

    • @soniahenderson1637
      @soniahenderson1637 3 года назад

      @@BrandonDayton i am a disabled artist and i use a gyrotwister powerball with my goof hand fot hand pain relief

  • @drewbrouillette687
    @drewbrouillette687 4 года назад +4

    Having to work with deadlines and long hours is tough as an artist. Always make sure you do what you can to take care of yourself!

  • @venusf2655
    @venusf2655 3 года назад +2

    here, eating my dinner with my non dominant hand because I was drawing, inking, and painting all day :(

  • @bakawaki
    @bakawaki 7 лет назад +2

    Thank you for the video, it's very helpful! I've been learning to use the mouse in my non-dominate hand for a few months to give my dominant hand a break and it's helped a bit, but I think your flexing and strengthening exercises are a stronger solution ^^

    • @BrandonDayton
      @BrandonDayton  7 лет назад +3

      Anything you can do to rest things is great. The stretching and strengthening is just sugar on top.

  • @sunc0re
    @sunc0re 4 года назад

    Thank you very much! Freshly diagnosed with carpal syndrome, trying to re-wire my habits

  • @M_Emeritz
    @M_Emeritz 7 лет назад +3

    This is very helpful, thank you!

  • @user-jz4ff4en4y
    @user-jz4ff4en4y 7 лет назад +8

    Should I go about these wrist strengthening exercises like I would for general strength workout? 1 day workout, 2-3 days rest (depending on healing time), rinse and repeat. I'm only 18, working to get into animation college and already getting wrist pains. I've started doing all kinds of stretches and it's been good, but I don't have stamina to work for hours (with rest included), the pain comes back. I want to be an animator so I really need that stamina. Is it alright if I do these strength exercises after a day of rigorous drawing, then take a break from drawing as long as it needs to heal? Or what is your approach to this. Really appreciate your thoughts, I'm completely lost.

    • @BrandonDayton
      @BrandonDayton  7 лет назад +3

      Any heavy grip strength should only be done about once or twice a week. A lot of the other stuff, like stretching and lighter grip work can be done almost daily. Taking a break is big too.

  • @DeWaynesArtDreams
    @DeWaynesArtDreams 5 лет назад

    I've done the rubber band thing, need to get back to it. I use the ProHands GripMaster for strength.
    Good video.

  • @Quest4Tube
    @Quest4Tube 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks for making this .

  • @scottishcrisp6236
    @scottishcrisp6236 5 лет назад

    Very, Very helpful video. Thank you for sharing your experience and giving your advice, i really appreciate it.

  • @sunnyn-pilly5497
    @sunnyn-pilly5497 6 лет назад +1

    Thank you! This helps me a lot.

  • @timodland49
    @timodland49 7 лет назад +1

    Again Great vid. Keep 'em up. A lot of good stuff Brandon.

    • @BrandonDayton
      @BrandonDayton  7 лет назад

      Sure thing man. We need you back at Draw Night!

  • @iamalmetal
    @iamalmetal 4 года назад +1

    my problem is i'm getting blisters from drawing, thumb and mid finger. the blister on my thumb hurt the most. the skin is dead already but it hurts still so i can't draw

    • @_kaleido
      @_kaleido 4 года назад

      It sounds like you may be gripping the pen/pencils too hard. Try relaxing your grip, or getting a cloth/rubber sleeve to wrap around the utensil

    • @iamalmetal
      @iamalmetal 4 года назад

      @@_kaleido I duct tape my thumb when i'm drawing and can no longer tolerate the pain, kinda works but it affects my accuracy and control. Thank you for the tip.

    • @krasenmaximov8110
      @krasenmaximov8110 3 года назад

      Damn blisters from pen grip. Hard grip wont give you more control in drawing, just learn to draw.

  • @nicholaspitti8171
    @nicholaspitti8171 3 года назад

    Usually even if I have any joint pain before or while excercising. Aferwards its gone. (Im doing the excercises with correct form and not using more weight than I can handle) Bloodflow is good for reducing inflamation i guess.

  • @micheleyoung9292
    @micheleyoung9292 5 лет назад

    Great suggestions and ideas! Thank you!

  • @Briannafrancis-e9g
    @Briannafrancis-e9g 5 месяцев назад

    My fingers go numb and tingly…it feels like carpal tunnel. Is that squeeze ball good for it?

  • @Wishfull._..Editor57
    @Wishfull._..Editor57 3 года назад

    My webbing in my hand hurts and I slept and it still hurts.. bc my pencil was way too dull and I was holding it too tight

  • @user-gt6to6bm5t
    @user-gt6to6bm5t 3 года назад +1

    how are you feeling today brandon? have you fixed your rsi?

    • @BrandonDayton
      @BrandonDayton  3 года назад

      Happy to say I've had no issues lately.

  • @lorenasoto484
    @lorenasoto484 6 лет назад +3

    I'm currently dealing with hand pain; speacially in my flexors and extensors. I know is an old video but Can I know how often you practice those exercises? I leave my hand rest from drawing for the past month, But I'd like to get back to it.When you experiment a little of a pain in your daily basis how much time did you leave it rest? hope I can get an answer. Really helpfull video by the way!

    • @BrandonDayton
      @BrandonDayton  6 лет назад

      That's tough to answer. FIRST -- go see a doctor. In my case, I find that you just need to start small with the exercises -- gentle stretching, low resistance on the grip training. Work your way up as things start feeling okay.

    • @lorenasoto484
      @lorenasoto484 6 лет назад

      Brandon Dayton thanks for answer :-) I know is different from person to person, I just wanted to know how do you do it to star making my routine

  • @attackfrogs
    @attackfrogs 3 года назад +1

    "minimize mouse use"
    me, who *draws with the mouse*: ah fuck

  • @pineapplec0ke
    @pineapplec0ke 4 года назад

    oddly enough I haven't gotten any pain in my right hand even though that's the one I use, just the left, but that's probably because I also do stuff like knitting. Idk tbh

  • @illu1172
    @illu1172 3 года назад +1

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  • @raphfelix6305
    @raphfelix6305 6 лет назад +1

    NEVER GO BOWLING WITH RSI. the things I do for my girlfriend. I screwed myself real bad. right, when I was back in the game, paying that stylus to tablet. and I do something dumb, like going bowling with an already wonky wrist. And now I am back in the brace, having to apply some Voltaren Gel for pain. I am out of commission for a few days now. till the pain goes away. back to hard work to get my hand art ready again. I am such a dumb ass.

    • @BrandonDayton
      @BrandonDayton  6 лет назад +1

      Ouch! Sorry to hear that man. It's a constant battle. Get some rest and I hope you can get back to drawing.

    • @raphfelix6305
      @raphfelix6305 6 лет назад

      Brandon Dayton it's all good. I changed the way I sit, and hold my arm. Never put my elbow on the edge. Take stretch breaks. Go for walks, you know, just walk away for a bit. It's good to get back to drawing again. I missed it. Just always be conscientious about grip, pressure and how I can get the best out of each session.

  • @brendaechols2228
    @brendaechols2228 3 года назад +1

    That hand arthritis hurts like a mother!

  • @Dross_Of_The_Catticus
    @Dross_Of_The_Catticus 3 года назад

    What games did you play?

  • @pauljerome01
    @pauljerome01 2 года назад

    yeah I probably need to cut out videogames. my work desk has no range of motion for playing with a mouse

  • @jollingongju539
    @jollingongju539 6 лет назад +1

    I got carpal tunnel at 14, so yeah

    • @BrandonDayton
      @BrandonDayton  6 лет назад +1

      Ugh, so sorry. How is it doing now?

    • @jollingongju539
      @jollingongju539 6 лет назад

      Brandon Dayton it hurts so much, I’m 21 and I can’t do much of anything. I just work and if I want to draw or something I take breaks

  • @realswobby
    @realswobby 4 года назад +1

    Too bad I have to work with my hands for a living and I'm not talking about drawing...

  • @davefx7949
    @davefx7949 5 лет назад +1

    I'm left handed. But can't use a mouse left handed. Guess I'm lucky. Only I play guitar a lot.......aaaaand that's why I'm here

  • @starsroof_1633
    @starsroof_1633 4 года назад +2

    thanks, but please try make videos more brief. 17 minutes i think were not necesary for this. again thanks tho!