People are upset they don't get as much dmg off wall combo. I say this is a quality over quantity buff. More mix-up options to break an opponents defense, and more counter hits into guaranteed follow ups stacking up to make up for lost combo dmg. Leo can still pull off 80 to 90 on the wall average anyway, so this is definitely a W patch imo.
that is very true yeah. but sometimes you dont wanna poke after d1 while only while standing moves but something like df1 or d4 so its good to mix everything together ^^
cant lie aftter i played a lot i never got the situation to get hopkick afterwards, you are mostly still +13. i do think if they would press into heat smash on block or jab it would still work. all the other trades are not changing the frames tho
Now sobaki work better against df 1 check. At -4 situation. And still work against df 1 after 21. And idk but everybody think qcf 14 is plus like i law string and get counterhit by sobaki😅.
i feel like they dont really now where they want leo to be lmao. Its because he has all the tools but none of them are perfect. they just dont know where to buff and where to nerf.
I won't say it's useless, it sets up decent play by mixing it up with b1,4 and you can go into BOK from it by holding down. BOK1+2 is then a good option, sometimes BOK2 or BOK1,2 depending on how they try to punish your shoulder, after this situation many people will start respecting the shoulder giving you mental frames.
@@MilanorTSW200 you can clearly see if leo goes for 4 or 1+2 after b1. There’s no mixup really. After 1+2 you can punish easily even if leo goes to bok. As i said if opponent knows it’s just free punish. There is video on you tube clearly showing this.
glaube leo ist trotzdem in einem guten zustand im moment. eher oberes mittelfeld. klar könnte leo besser sein aber ist eher das andere chars viel zu gut sind. verstehe aber was du meinst
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People are upset they don't get as much dmg off wall combo. I say this is a quality over quantity buff. More mix-up options to break an opponents defense, and more counter hits into guaranteed follow ups stacking up to make up for lost combo dmg. Leo can still pull off 80 to 90 on the wall average anyway, so this is definitely a W patch imo.
You're also able to get uf12 after CH d1~d since you can do u/ub/uf moves from crouch without having to crouch cancel.
that is very true yeah. but sometimes you dont wanna poke after d1 while only while standing moves but something like df1 or d4 so its good to mix everything together ^^
Super detailed and clean video. Appreciate the effort you put into this!
Thank you for the video! Good luck in future tournaments!!
Out of curiosity, anyone who is good with numbers about how much did we lose in our wall combos? 5% 10%?
Danke.
Unfortunately ⬇️ 1 after a trade is now +13 instead of +18...
cant lie aftter i played a lot i never got the situation to get hopkick afterwards, you are mostly still +13. i do think if they would press into heat smash on block or jab it would still work. all the other trades are not changing the frames tho
Thanks as always man
Great video!!
I love how community still considers Leo begginer friendly char with nearly every interaction of theirs becoming a tech at this point 😅
Now sobaki work better against df 1 check. At -4 situation. And still work against df 1 after 21. And idk but everybody think qcf 14 is plus like i law string and get counterhit by sobaki😅.
I just feel leo needed b1,1+2 buffed. It’s useless really only good in combos. That d1 is constantly changed like make up your minds namco!
i feel like they dont really now where they want leo to be lmao.
Its because he has all the tools but none of them are perfect. they just dont know where to buff and where to nerf.
Just because that move is no longer safe doesn't mean it needs to be buffed...it's fine as is
I won't say it's useless, it sets up decent play by mixing it up with b1,4 and you can go into BOK from it by holding down. BOK1+2 is then a good option, sometimes BOK2 or BOK1,2 depending on how they try to punish your shoulder, after this situation many people will start respecting the shoulder giving you mental frames.
@@MilanorTSW200 you can clearly see if leo goes for 4 or 1+2 after b1. There’s no mixup really. After 1+2 you can punish easily even if leo goes to bok. As i said if opponent knows it’s just free punish. There is video on you tube clearly showing this.
@@Madara-en9oimaybe it’s Leo’s essence. He has almost everything but master of none
Thanks ❤
richtiger mist. einer der wenigen chars der keinen nerf brauch eher einen buff.
glaube leo ist trotzdem in einem guten zustand im moment. eher oberes mittelfeld. klar könnte leo besser sein aber ist eher das andere chars viel zu gut sind. verstehe aber was du meinst