Southern Illinois Gravel Bike Ride 2020
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- In late November of 2020 I was finally able to go for a long (3 day) bike ride. In order to stay as far away from people as possible I rode on mostly gravel roads in southern Illinois. If you want a copy of my route with turn-by-turn directions, send me an e-mail at babikeadventures@gmail.com. I'm not sure if I was bike touring or bike packing but it was fun, Type 2 fun, if you know what I mean. I started at the western terminus of the River to River Hiking Trail in Grand Tower, Illinois on the Mississippi River and rode to Cave in Rock, Illinois on the Ohio River. The route cuts through the heart of the Shawnee Hills in southern Illinois. On day 1, I rode the Big Muddy Levee to Pine Hills then past Bald Knob and into Alto Pass. I rode down Water Valley and stopped at Panther Den Wilderness. On day 2, I rode past Bork Falls to Buncombe, onto the Odum Tract and the Tunnel Hill Bike Trail. From Stonefort I rode down Appel Rd. and stopped for the day at Burden Falls. On Day 3, I rode past William's Hill, Lusk Creek Wilderness and One Horse Gap on my way past the old Iron Furnace. From Rock Creek I finished the ride at Cave in Rock on the Ohio. The Shawnee National Forest has many opportunities for primitive Wilderness camping along the way. There are also plenty of cabins and B&B's. Make sure to plan ahead.
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" if you're looking for adventure, don't complain when you find it" best quote of the video. Ride on Paul, and as always, take us with you.
Well said! Thanks. Stay safe out there.
This guy always delivers. fantastic ride. Thanks for another adventure Mr Paul.
Glad you enjoyed it, Thanks again!
I rode out of Harrisburg to Jackson Falls this past Saturday. That was a tough 40 mile day! I did 22 miles and took 145 back in the next morning to my truck. I drove 4 hours up from Tennessee Saturday before taking off on my ride. Beautiful place! I ran the Tunnel Hill 50 mile race in 2018 and man that ride was just as tough! Much respect for riding that loaded 3 days!
Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it! There are a lot of hills in that area. It is beautiful though. Hope to see you down the road. Stay safe and ride on!!
As I get further into your bike adventures library - it is hard to decide what I like best…the adventures you choose…the scenery you share…your stress-free, laidback philosophy of cycling and life? Thanks for sharing. Wishing you continued health and happiness, and maybe some day our bike adventure paths will cross.
Thanks for watching. I appreciate it! Hope to see you down the road. Stay safe and Ride on!
Good video to watch; much more entertaining than Netflix. I love how your editing and videophotographing skills have improved over the years. Adding the drone is a nice touch.
Thanks for watching and I really appreciate the nice comments. During the pandemic, I had nothing better to do than watch youtube videos on how to make youtube videos. Really. I've still got a lot to learn, but I can't wait to get out on the road this summer. I've been studying for my drone pilot certificate (FAA part 107). I'm still legal, but I'm learning a lot about that too. Thanks again!!
Story teller, philosopher and motivator, love your videos
Sorry about the late response. Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it. Hope to see you down the trail. Stay safe and ride on!!
Great video, Paul! The drone footage really adds to the road level footage. Thanks for taking us along on this fine adventure. I look forward to your next bike adventure video!!
Thanks, Bud! The best drone shots were taken by Sharon. I couldn't have done it with her. I can't wait to get out this summer, staring to get "happy feet" if you know what I mean.
Living in Chicagoland you'd think I'd have already explored these areas, but alas. Thanks for the video, it was really well made and super entertaining. Now I know a new place to visit and get my adventure cycling fix. Cheers!
I grew up in Chicagoland (Rolling Meadows, NW Suburbs). The Shawnee Forest is like a whole other state. If you make it down here, look me up. Thanks again for watching!
I learned something today: Type 1 Fun & Type 2 Fun.
Type 2 fun always seems harder!hanks for watching. Ride on!!
Absolutely amazing, Paul!
Thanks, Julie!!
Love your informative adventures!
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching. Stay safe out there!
Excellent in every way.
Thanks for watching. Stay safe and ride on!!
Man...you do a profissional work...exceptional videos. Thanks a lot!
I appreciate that! It's just a hobby, and I'm still learning a lot. Thanks again.
Great ride-thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it. Stay safe and ride on!!
Really enjoyed this!
Thanks! I enjoyed making it.
Great, thanks for the nice videos, you are a man who really knows to live life!
Glad you like them! Thanks again.
Another great ride video for a snowy day locked in the house. Great job Paul!!!!
Thanks 👍I'm glad you enjoyed it. Stay warm!! Spring is coming.
Thanks for the video 👍 Was refreshing and different than most. Also I'm really interested in your route. I've backpacked and hiked several sections of the River To River and this looks like a great addition to my adventures in this beautiful and fun part of Illinois. I sent you a message for a copy of your map and thank you for sharing 😎
Thanks for watching. I've been having trouble with my internet. Its complicated. I will send you maps and directions as soon as I can. Sorry and thanks again.
I live in Chicago and when it's cold I ride my stationary bike inside and watch Illinois Bike Path/Riding Videos. This is the first time I watched one of yours. WOW! This was the best one I ever seen. Great point about Deer Hunting Season....something I would not have thought about. Nice drones, good music, very well done. Thanks for the great credits so we can see where the music came from. Go make more videos!!
Thanks for watching! You gave me a great idea. I think I'm going to make an indoor riding video. In southern Illinois during deer season, stay out of the woods. There are hunting "accidents" every year. Thanks again.
Another excellent video ... thanks for the ride-a-long ...
Thanks again for watching! I'm glad you liked it. I'm coming to Alaska, not this summer, but I've got plans. Happy Trails!!
I love the colors in this episode... I love the geography of these regions!
The Shawnee forest looks the best in fall and early winter. Thanks for watching!
Love you're videos.
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it. Stay safe and ride on!
Great video. Interesting route. Entertaining commentary. Informative advice. Paul always delivers.
Thanks again for watching. And thanks for the kind words!!
thank you paul looks like a awsome ride
Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it. Hope to see you down the trail. Stay safe and ride on!!
Awesome video and channel. Thank you
Sorry about the slow response. Been out biking. Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it. Stay safe and ride on!
Another great video! The addition of the drone really adds a great dynamic to your video! Thanks for sharing your ride!
Glad you enjoyed it! I love my drone! It's a fun little toy and it does take some awesome footage. Right now I'm just a "hobbyist" drone pilot, but I plan on getting my Part 107 to be a "commercial" drone pilot soon. Thanks again for watching!!
happy to see a new biking video from you!
Thanks again !!
Thanks Paul.. looks interesting... I love gravel Roads...
You and me both! Thanks again for watching.
Dang, that was gorgeous! Thanks for sharing. And great narration too.
Thanks Ben. The Shawnee forest is one of the best kept secrets in Illinois. It's not all pavement, skyscrapers and cornfields. Ride on, Bro' !
Yay! It's great to see another video, Paul! We've missed your adventures!
Bryan, thanks for sticking with me, Man! It was a slow summer for bike touring. Got big plans for this summer, if they work out. Thanks again.
@@paulsuchecki3985 Looking forward to seeing what you do this summer!
I have been tucking into the rich fare on this channel for a couple of days and it just keeps getting better.
Thanks for watching! Stay safe out there and ride on!!
Very well done video
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it. Stay safe and ride on!
That was a beautiful ride!
Thanks!!!
Love your video, Cave-In-Rock is my hometown.
The Ohio River is beautiful!
hello from the east side of Southern Illinois, great videos.
Thanks for watching. Hope to see you down the trail! 😄
Great video Professor S!! Very well done and a nice treat during this cold wet winter. I fully expect you to post epic bike travel adventures this summer! I hope to go on a few of my own. (Im)patiently waiting for spring!
Thanks for watching!! This was my only bike trip in 2020, 3 days. But it was good practice with the video. I'm hoping to bike all summer, I've got big plans. I hope to see you out on the road. Safe travels!
Thank you for all your videos, so well done and inspiring. I just bought a Surly and will soon start a tour.
Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it. I like my Surly. Hope to see you down the trail. Stay safe and ride on!!
Great video
Thanks!
thanks, well done! Nice job of giving a good feel for the terrain and the riding surface. Getting away from cars is the best. Cheers and will look for your next adventure.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching. Looking forward to my next adventure as well. Ride on!
Hi Paul, discovered your channel recently. Great ride and video! Looking forward to your other videos. Thanks and all the best, Steve
Thanks Steve. I hope to get out this summer and do some touring. I'll be retiring in a couple of years as well, then I hope to do a lot of bike touring. Thanks again!
Absolutely great video & great trip. Thanks especially for the drone footage, and the excellent video along the way. Loved the area. I live in Arizona, so as you can imagine, my experience is "dryer," but I'm also in the mountains, so not as dry as the deserts. Thanks for the commentary, too! I'm watching all your excellent videos "as I get the time" (retired), and I think I enjoy each one more than the last. They are truly special.
Thanks for watching. Stay safe and ride on!
Good timing on my part - I just discovered your “dreaded middle third” video and now this came out. Another good ride and an insightful perspective of your surroundings. Well done. Happy Trails.
Awesome! Thank you! I appreciate it. Happy trails to you too.
What a fantastic ride! Your drone and videography skills are also fantastic, but your storytelling is the best. Thanks for sharing your adventures with us!
Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it. This one was fun to make because it was close to home. Hope to see you down the trail. Stay safe and ride on!!😎
I am into the Type 2 fun too! Nice gravel riding.
Awesome! Thanks.
Fantastic two person production and display of transport sport life style. Excellent direction and script. Thanks for your dedication to demonstrating the great American innovation of riding the most noble machine perfectly suited for recreation and transportation. Where there is bike there is life.
The most noble machine! I always knew it, but could never say it that well. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the Ride Along! Keep Going Brother! Over 50 and still on 2 Wheels! Semper Fi and Can Do
Right on! Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it.
Thsnk you, excellent.
Sorry about the slow response. Been out biking. Thanks for watching. Stay safe and ride on!
Very cool..!!! I am definitely interested in that trip. My wife and I were just talking about the hike...but the ride might be a good warm up. Thanks for sharing this trip
Thanks for watching! Send me an email to BAbikeadventures@gmail.com and I will reply with maps and turn by turn directions. I would love it if you and others tried my route and gave feedback. Thanks again.
I grew up in Carbondale and did a ton of cycling in Southern Illinois. I miss the Shawnee! great video
Thanks for watching! The Shawnee forest is one of the best kept secrets in Illinois. Thanks again.
I just moved to SEMO (Cape Gerardeau) after retiring early. I have ridden across the Mississippi to Ill and love the gravel rides. I also recently discovered your channel. Enjoy your humor, history lessons and insights. I plan on the Katy Trail, Tunnel Hill and perhaps the river to river. Would hate to get lost. I will be watching all your videos and look forward to the future rides. Thanks
Thanks for watching. I visit Cape often. There are 2 nice bike shops in town. SE Missouri has some great natural areas to explore. If you live in Missouri you almost have to do the Katy Trail. You're not far from Grand Tower or the Tunnel Hill Trail. Lots of gravel roads in the Shawnee forest. You can a good map from the forest service in Vienna or Harrisburg. Thanks again for watching. Ride on!
I would love a copy of your route. You are an inspiration!!
Sorry about the slow response. Send me an email at babikeadventures@gmail.com and I will send you a copy of directions. Thanks for watching. Hope to see you down the trail. Stay safe and ride on!!
I live in Carbondale and am interested in more scenic bike routes. Thanks for the video
Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it. Go Salukis. Ride on!
Thanks again Paul! Lots of nice areas in the U.S. that I can't wait to see. We have tons of gravel up here as well... love it! Tons of old Canadian railtrails as well. Take care! Alex :)
Thanks again for watching. I want to ride in Canada someday, but probably still won't be possible this summer. You take care as well, and stay warm!!
@@paulsuchecki3985 Thanks Paul! If you ever come up to the Great White North, let me know! The Niagara Loop is an easy 160km (100 mile) loop on the Canuck side. P.S. Are you a Black Hawk Fan? (Original Six!) 👍
@@uhu69 Blackhawks! Yes!! I don't get to see as many games as I would like. In 2013 when they won the Stanley Cup I was riding the Western Express Rt. I even mentioned them in the video I made. I'm always looking for somewhere cool in the summer to ride. The Niagara Loop sounds right up my alley.
Nice work. You're as lucky as I am to have a wife who helps with outings like this. My bicycle has been in some of those places, but I haven't had good luck with gravel roads in southern Illinois and southern Indiana. Too much loose gravel on top of a hard surface. Some of those ordinary gravel roads you were on didn't look too bad, though. And some of the not-so-ordinary ones were unlike anything I've ever tried. You're making me want to give the area another try.
Thanks for watching. I found a new place to trail ride in southern Illinois. Check out Lake Glendale. Many trails. Great off-road riding.
Best bike adventure videos out there! Too bad this isn’t you full time job. Well done👍🏼
Thanks. When I retire from my day job, it might be.😎
Great video, I have been watching your Erie Canal and Ohio videos lately. Ill be traveling that way in a couple months from coast to coast. Your videos are very informative. Great channel, just Subbed.
Thanks, I appreciate that! I hope to see you on the road. Safe travels.
Glad I watched would love a copy of the route. I live right outside of Tunnel Hill
Thanks for watching. I ride the Tunnel Hill Trail all the time. Maybe I'll see you out there. If you'll send an e-mail to babikeadventures@gmail.com I will send you maps and turn by turn directions. I'd love to have you ride this route and let me know what you think. Thanks again.
Paul, as always I really loved your video. Great production. If you are ever in Kansas maybe we can ride the Flint hills trail.
Sounds great! A few years ago we (my wife and me) rode through the Flints Hills on motorcycle. We both love the prairie and there are no better examples of native prairie than the Flints Hills. Thanks again for watching. I hope to see you o the road!!
Video deserve more views
I know. Right? Thanks and make sure you 'share' it with everyone you know!!
I really want to bike this route. But I just have a road bike and a mountain bike. No gravel bike at the moment. But I think I could do it all on my 29er mountain bike...just be a little slower than most! Great video, I've hiked all that but never biked it, yet!
Go for it! After I heal up, I need to get back out biking again. Hope to see you on the trail!!
This looks like a great ride. We are from Wisconsin and would love to ride your route.
I want you to ride this route. I would like to hear what you think. I will even help you if I can. I don't know the best way to do this, so if you send an email to me at babikeadventures@gmail.com . I will send you maps with turn by turn directions. I'd love to hear from you.
Just found your channel by happenstance but glad I did.
If you get down here I'm always around, especially for a ride. Either way hope to see you on the trails.
Welcome aboard! Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it. Sounds good. I might be riding on Florida trails in Feb. Hope to see you down the trail. Stay safe and ride on!
@@paulsuchecki3985 thanks bud, see you on the trail.!.!🍊🤙
Paul, I would love a copy of the route! Thanks! Great job!
Thanks for watching! Sorry about the delayed response. Shoot me an email to babikeadventures@gmail.com I will send maps and directions. Thanks again.
Purple paint means “No Hunting”. Need freshen mine up over the summer.
Thanks. Either way, I'm not crossing the line. 😁
Paul, you carry a crazy cadence! I couldn't pedal that fast. I'm a grinder, not a spinner.
The speed on some of those shots may have been altered for effect. But yeah, overall I'm a spinner, not a grinder.
As always a great video. When you get time I would love a map of the ride I live a hour or so away. Thanks
Thanks for watching. Send me an email to babikeadventures@gmail.com. I'll sends maps and directions.
Would love a copy of your route. Good stuff
Please send me an email to babikeadventures@gmail.com and I will sends maps and directions. Thanks. Sorry about the delayed response.
Paul, consider getting a water purifier. I have one that fits in my kit. You'll never find yourself with out water. I KNOW you teach biology, so you're familiar with the risks of drinking bad water, but these do the trick and keep you safe.
I have a water purifier, but I've never used it. I bought it to go bikepacking in out of the way places. I guess if I found myself in an emergency where I had no water and the only choice would be to drink out of a puddle. I just haven't been there yet. I don't even know if mine is a good one. It's heavy and I paid about $90 for it. You said that you have a good one. What kind do you have?
I discovered your RUclips channel and have loved watching all the bike touring videos. Are you planning on doing more videos in the future?
Thanks for watching. I just got back from 7 weeks of bike touring. 2021 bike touring videos are coming. Thanks again!
Dude you’re my age.... my first thought is “wow that’s uncomfortable.” I did half of the trans-am (adventure cycling) from Missouri to Oregon in 2003, but my first long ride was the KATY trail back in the 90’s... I didn’t like the gravel. From there forwarded I only road on pavement. 👍
Type 2 fun is always uncomfortable at any age, especially 57. But like they say, it's not the years as much as the miles that count. If I was really hard core I would have slept outside on the hard ground instead of at home in my nice soft, warm bed. I've done the KATY trail and others like it, and I agree. It seems like a gravel surface slows one down. Fewer miles, harder and more gritty. I prefer paved roads for the most part, but riding on less traveled backroads is nice, especially during a pandemic. Thanks again for watching!
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Looks like a great ride. I definitely want to ride this route. Im interested in your map/directions
Cool! Thanks for watching. Send me an email at babikeadventures@gmail.com . I will send maps and turn by turn directions. Thanks again.
Paul, That was a very enjoyable video. I would love to have a copy of your mappped out route`
Thanks for watching! If you send an email to me at babikeadventures@gmail.com , I can send you maps and turn by turn directions. I would love for you to ride my route. I would to hear some feedback if possible. I would even help out if needed. Thanks again, enjoy!
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This strikes me as evidence that your touring bike holds up well on rougher surfaces.
That Surly Cross Check is definitely more suited for those rough gravel roads than the Miyata. But they are both sturdy bikes. Thanks for watching!
Great video, Paul. This looks like a perfect bikepacking trip for a long weekend. Do you have a link to the route by chance? Cheers!
Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it! Sorry about the slow response. Try this link www.strava.com/routes/3078098342041085856 Hope to see you down the road. Stay safe and ride on!!
Yeah, I'd like a copy of your map! Nice video and great route! You look like a travelling salesman with all the doodads on your handlebars!
Thanks for watching! Travelling salesman?? LOL! That's my custom cockpit. I like to travel in style. So, if you send an email to me at babikeadventures@gmail.com , I can send you maps and turn by turn directions. I would love for you to ride my route. I'd like to hear some feedback if possible. I would even help you if you needed it. Thanks again, enjoy!
Great video and routes. What 41 700c tire do you ride and shoe brand. Outstanding video bob
Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it. On the gravel ride I used a pair of Surly Knards. Hope to see you down the road. Stay safe and ride on!!
Really enjoyed watching. I need to bike this route now!
How can I get a route map?
Thanks for watching. If you send an email to me at babikadventures@gmail.com , I can send you maps and turn by turn directions. I would love for you to ride my route. I would like to hear some feedback if possible and I would even help out if possible. Thanks again, enjoy!
Hi Paul, loved the video. Is your exact route available somewhere? Thanks!
Thanks for watching the video. Send an email to me at babikeadventures@gmail.com and I will send you maps and turn by turn directions. I would love it if you rode my route. I would like to get some feedback and if possible I could help you out. Thanks again.
Very Nice! I have biked the whole Tunnel Hill Trail a couple of times.
How do you find these routes?
This might sound simple, but I just use a map. A very detailed forest map. Google Shawnee Forest Maps and Publications. That should lead you to Shawnee Forest website where forest maps are available. Thanks. Have fun!
Amazing video, best Southern Illinois video I’ve seen. I’d love to work with you sometime if you’re ever interested.
Thanks for watching! Sounds great. Do you ever ride the Tunnel Hill Trail? I usually hang out there on the weekends when it's not raining.
Paul thanks for all your videos. I am thinking of doing your Southern Illinois Gravel ride the 3rd week of April. Will the leaves be out by then? My options for the shuttle are to see if a. I can hire someone from your area( do you know of anyone) b. Could find a second person to ride with and leave a car at each end or c. See if I can rent a cabin for my wife to stay in for 3 days while I do the ride. Do you know a location for my wife to stay for several days.
Thanks, John
Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it! It's been a cold spring and leaves are coming on slow. But by the 3rd week in April, I'm sure Spring will be in full swing. I don't know of anyone for hire. I've got to work. If you need help on the weekend, I might be able to. There are lots of cabins in the area. I would search on the web for "cabins in the Shawnee Forest". Cobden and Alto Pass are on the wine trail. Giant City Lodge is nearby. I really have no specific recommendations, I've never had to use one here. Hope that helps. Stay safe and ride on!
This looks like a great ride, you wouldn't happen to still have a copy of your route would you?
Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it! Sorry about the slow response. Here's a link. www.strava.com/routes/3078098342041085856 Hope to see you down the road. Stay safe and ride on!!
Awsome video! Could this route be completed in a high clearance vehicle? If so I would love a copy of your route.
Thanks for watching! Be careful out there.
Hi Paul loving your videos, did the River to River run back in the 90s and and would love to do your gravel routes on my gravel bike if you have a copy of that to share that'd be awesome thanks Kevin
Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it. Stay safe and ride on!! Try this link. www.strava.com/routes/3078098342041085856
Thanks. Your bike was a good investment then, eh?
Yes it was! Years worth of fun and adventure.
Paul how fast do you ride on gravel normally and how fast on paved?
When you ride on one of your long rides, do you have set intervals for times to break, or do you just listen to your body.
On pavement maybe 10-12 mph. On gravel maybe 8-10 mph. Just approximation. As I'm getting older I try to listen to my body more. Rest when I need it. Thanks.
@@paulsuchecki3985 you and I are both older. But this year I have noticed mid 60s me longing for even low 60s me. I am under tall, diabetic, and thinking if I want to get out there and take a tour, I better get going.
@@scottroder5516 Keep pedaling my friend.
Now retired, you're invited to spend more time riding out west
That's part of the plan. My big goal is to ride my bike to Alaska. Hope to see you down the road. Stay safe and ride on!
Copy of the route???
Send a text to babikeadventures@gmail.com and I will reply with a copy of the route. Thanks.
Another great video thanks for creating it. Any chance of getting a map of the route?
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FYI This is an up and coming route you may be interested in riding in the future greatlaketolaketrails.org/
Thanks again for watching! Send an email to me at babikeadventures@gmail.com and I will send you maps and turn by turn directions. I would love for you to ride my route. I would like to hear some feedback if possible and even help out if I could. Thanks, enjoy!
“Mistake me for a deer” “ shoot me right off my bike”
It could happen. Some of these deer hunters are a little too trigger happy. LOL!!
Mr. Suchecki, how does your route compare to the "rivertorivertrail.net route? Thank you, Sir.
In some places they are the same. Especially where the hiking trail is on gravel roads. In wilderness areas bikes are not allowed. In those areas my route stays pretty close to the hiking trail, but on gravel roads.
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