As a long time body man I cannot stress enough the importance of disconnecting the positive 12v battery cable before removing the airbag, that is a bomb in your hand that is active if the 12v circuit has power. It takes 2 minutes to remove the top panel in the frunk and disconnect it.
Why should anyone with a working brain do that swap to the ridiculous yoke ? Vehicle are driven safely with a steering wheel since 1894 ... so why should we get rid of that safety and instead get something from a sci-fi movie ( Knight Rider ), although our cars do not drive autonamous yet ? When you make fast turns at intersection or tight curves you are not able to keep control of the vehicle 100 % because the yoke has this gap between the two horns. This is no race car with a yoke steering on the track which is something totally different. Race cars do not have the same traffic situations with pedestrians, playing children or even animals suddenly cross the street while you are quickly turning at an intersection. The horn button is on the wrong spot. You cannot hit it intuitive in dangerous situations. Our brain always will make us bump on the middle of the wheel in such situations. So we will not be able to warn others fast enough. The turn signal lever has been removed and is replaced by two buttons on the left, which do not make sense at all. Try to set your turn signal when you want to leave a roundabout with the yoke wheel upside down ... you will never hit the right button ! But this is a common traffic rule in Europe and in many other countries to signal others that you are leaving the roundabout at the next exit to maintain easy and fast traffic flow. The damn Yoke in a roadvehicle is JOKE !
Why should anyone with a working brain do that swap to the ridiculous yoke ? Vehicle are driven safely with a steering wheel since 1894 ... so why should we get rid of that safety and instead get something from a sci-fi movie ( Knight Rider ), although our cars do not drive autonamous yet ? When you make fast turns at intersection or tight curves you are not able to keep control of the vehicle 100 % because the yoke has this gap between the two horns. This is no race car with a yoke steering on the track which is something totally different. Race cars do not have the same traffic situations with pedestrians, playing children or even animals suddenly cross the street while you are quickly turning at an intersection. The horn button is on the wrong spot. You cannot hit it intuitive in dangerous situations. Our brain always will make us bump on the middle of the wheel in such situations. So we will not be able to warn others fast enough. The turn signal lever has been removed and is replaced by two buttons on the left, which do not make sense at all. Try to set your turn signal when you want to leave a roundabout with the yoke wheel upside down ... you will never hit the right button ! But this is a common traffic rule in Europe and in many other countries to signal others that you are leaving the roundabout at the next exit to maintain easy and fast traffic flow. The damn Yoke in a roadvehicle is JOKE !
It definitely is a different way of driving, especially if you're used to holding steering wheel at 10 & 2 and used to turning with two hands going hand over hand, there would 100% be a learning curve. If you're used to holding 9 & 3, single hand turning, single hand driving, or two handed but not release & regrab hand over hand the learning curve for backing up trailers, emergency maneuvers, tight off-road passes, sharp corners, etc I've found to be much less dramatic in practice than I'd expected it would be in theory before actually doing those things with it installed. I've found along with some nuanced disadvantages, I've since discovered some nuanced advantages with regard to having a wider-stance steering yoke, including steering ease, notably faster steering angle identification, reduced fatigue due to better reach, unimpeded dash and lower windshield visibility compared to a wheel, better driver hvac airflow, better visibility and accessibility to steering column sticks, Etc. The horn is still the entire center though, wipers, turn signals, etc. are still the same sticks on either side of the steering column as they were before and as they are in other vehicles as well, none of that changed from wheel to yoke. For some people though, based on your muscle memory and driving preferences there can certainly be a big learning curve were you to switch from a wheel to a yoke. No Doubt.
I just installed one of these and there are two things that no one ever mentions but are important, firstly, watch out for the heated flat cable that comes out of the yoke lower housing so as not to pierce it with the faceplate alignment points that go into the bottom of the wheel and second, I prefer to tuck the main black wire looms down under the plastic flanges so they don't get pinched inside the horn bracket when horn is pressed down. There is room for them in there, just careful not to pinch them under flange when putting the bolts in. Thanks for your very detailed instructions and clear images.
Got ahead of myself. Ripped of the steering wheel and messed up the clock spring and unspooled the whole thing. Now I have to wait until new years for a replacement. Great.
I got the two pins to release and the air bag cover lifted but it won't detach from off the steering wheel. Not like yours just came right off. What do you think it is?
Thanks Rob, just replaced mine this morning, vegan garbage ripped at 52K miles. One update, the bottom clip wouldn’t release for me, had to wiggle it more and use both holes to release the airbag
Please remove the brown/red clip as well, it very important to remove the yellow and brown/red plugs before you remove the steering wheel.....else you could pull out the ribbons that control steering ....and that will be 350 bucks
Same. Sucks. It feels like that was designed to catch people out. The way that one clip makes the ribbons of the clockspring explode like that just seems so unnecessary. The clip just just disconnect itself but noooooo… it makes a whole new mess for you to take care of.🤨
Yeah I never asked Tesla directly, my assumption is that probably yes because while most of these parts are either the OEM or Tesla manufactured parts, it's not what I ordered from Tesla, nor what Tesla themselves installed. Again though if there were some issue in the future with something else on your steering column assembly, you could always do the same steps to swap back the original wheel first
Why should anyone with a working brain do that swap to the ridiculous yoke ? Vehicle are driven safely with a steering wheel since 1894 ... so why should we get rid of that safety and instead get something from a sci-fi movie ( Knight Rider ), although our cars do not drive autonamous yet ? When you make fast turns at intersection or tight curves you are not able to keep control of the vehicle 100 % because the yoke has this gap between the two horns. This is no race car with a yoke steering on the track which is something totally different. Race cars do not have the same traffic situations with pedestrians, playing children or even animals suddenly cross the street while you are quickly turning at an intersection. The horn button is on the wrong spot. You cannot hit it intuitive in dangerous situations. Our brain always will make us bump on the middle of the wheel in such situations. So we will not be able to warn others fast enough. The turn signal lever has been removed and is replaced by two buttons on the left, which do not make sense at all. Try to set your turn signal when you want to leave a roundabout with the yoke wheel upside down ... you will never hit the right button ! But this is a common traffic rule in Europe and in many other countries to signal others that you are leaving the roundabout at the next exit to maintain easy and fast traffic flow. The damn Yoke in a roadvehicle is JOKE !
I enjoy it. Same perks still hold true as I mentioned in the video, easier to reach and the increased leverage means turns are easier because they require less effort. Really the only notable difference at this point is it's not even something I think about anymore, it just feels normal like that's how I've always driven.
Dato che hai fatto una fatica immane per svitare la vite del volante, non pensi che sarebbe stati meglio far fare il lavoro ad un professionista? E lo hai riavvitato con la stessa forza? Non credo... E poi per smontare l'airbag devi staccare anche la batteria. È pericolosissimo quello che hai fatto
Why should anyone with a working brain do that swap to the ridiculous yoke ? Vehicle are driven safely with a steering wheel since 1894 ... so why should we get rid of that safety and instead get something from a sci-fi movie ( Knight Rider ), although our cars do not drive autonamous yet ? When you make fast turns at intersection or tight curves you are not able to keep control of the vehicle 100 % because the yoke has this gap between the two horns. This is no race car with a yoke steering on the track which is something totally different. Race cars do not have the same traffic situations with pedestrians, playing children or even animals suddenly cross the street while you are quickly turning at an intersection. The horn button is on the wrong spot. You cannot hit it intuitive in dangerous situations. Our brain always will make us bump on the middle of the wheel in such situations. So we will not be able to warn others fast enough. The turn signal lever has been removed and is replaced by two buttons on the left, which do not make sense at all. Try to set your turn signal when you want to leave a roundabout with the yoke wheel upside down ... you will never hit the right button ! But this is a common traffic rule in Europe and in many other countries to signal others that you are leaving the roundabout at the next exit to maintain easy and fast traffic flow. The damn Yoke in a roadvehicle is JOKE !
I'm not sure if you've seen Lexus's response to Tesla's way of handling yoke steering, but interesting and I'm really looking forward to hearing about it in practice once they're on the road. Here's a good video explaining it: ruclips.net/video/agMrewRJTow/видео.html
@@robmon3241 Yeah i know that Yoke from Lexus too and i have to say that they have a far better solution than Tesla has... but... the Lexus steer-by-wire got a little delay of the steering. RUclipsrs who already tested that car told, that when they turn the yoke to left or right the steering was following in a short delay which felt unnatural, but they get used to that quickly. Definatly a better system and it might even get more polished in the next software versions.
You talk about safety. If your hand is inbetween 10 to 2 o'clock position and airbag deploy, that's a guaranteed broken arm/s. This yoke steering wheel prevents you from holding the steering wheel in that positions which is safer.
@@marccd2 In case of an accident it is never guaranteed that you have your hands in the correct 9 o´clock / 3 o´clock position. Accidents happen in totally unexpected situations. The steering wheel has always worked well in such situations and the probability of getting serious injuries is very low .. if it was high we would not have it the way we have it ( with an airbag in the middle ). You can look at published studies, airbags save lifes in critical traffic accidents where drivers would have died in cars without airbags. Surviving a serious accident is the main goal here. Risking to have a forearm or hand injury is a minor problem. Reinventing the wheel offers new possibilities sure, but also brings a lot of negative effects as listed above !
As a long time body man I cannot stress enough the importance of disconnecting the positive 12v battery cable before removing the airbag, that is a bomb in your hand that is active if the 12v circuit has power. It takes 2 minutes to remove the top panel in the frunk and disconnect it.
The yoke has been an absolute pleasure on our Model S. Much more comfortable to use and looks great.
Very Detailed with the explanation, Thank you.. Waiting on my yoke to arrive and will definitely use your video as reference for the install.
Awesome! I hope you enjoy!
Why should anyone with a working brain do that swap to the ridiculous yoke ?
Vehicle are driven safely with a steering wheel since 1894 ... so why should we get rid of that safety and instead get something from a sci-fi movie ( Knight Rider ), although our cars do not drive autonamous yet ?
When you make fast turns at intersection or tight curves you are not able to keep control of the vehicle 100 % because the yoke has this gap between the two horns.
This is no race car with a yoke steering on the track which is something totally different. Race cars do not have the same traffic situations with pedestrians, playing children or even animals suddenly cross the street while you are quickly turning at an intersection.
The horn button is on the wrong spot. You cannot hit it intuitive in dangerous situations. Our brain always will make us bump on the middle of the wheel in such situations. So we will not be able to warn others fast enough.
The turn signal lever has been removed and is replaced by two buttons on the left, which do not make sense at all.
Try to set your turn signal when you want to leave a roundabout with the yoke wheel upside down ... you will never hit the right button ! But this is a common traffic rule in Europe and in many other countries to signal others that you are leaving the roundabout at the next exit to maintain easy and fast traffic flow.
The damn Yoke in a roadvehicle is JOKE !
Wow! Tell us how you really feel 😂
Very good information. I will be replacing mine too. Many thanks 👍👍
Why should anyone with a working brain do that swap to the ridiculous yoke ?
Vehicle are driven safely with a steering wheel since 1894 ... so why should we get rid of that safety and instead get something from a sci-fi movie ( Knight Rider ), although our cars do not drive autonamous yet ?
When you make fast turns at intersection or tight curves you are not able to keep control of the vehicle 100 % because the yoke has this gap between the two horns.
This is no race car with a yoke steering on the track which is something totally different. Race cars do not have the same traffic situations with pedestrians, playing children or even animals suddenly cross the street while you are quickly turning at an intersection.
The horn button is on the wrong spot. You cannot hit it intuitive in dangerous situations. Our brain always will make us bump on the middle of the wheel in such situations. So we will not be able to warn others fast enough.
The turn signal lever has been removed and is replaced by two buttons on the left, which do not make sense at all.
Try to set your turn signal when you want to leave a roundabout with the yoke wheel upside down ... you will never hit the right button ! But this is a common traffic rule in Europe and in many other countries to signal others that you are leaving the roundabout at the next exit to maintain easy and fast traffic flow.
The damn Yoke in a roadvehicle is JOKE !
It definitely is a different way of driving, especially if you're used to holding steering wheel at 10 & 2 and used to turning with two hands going hand over hand, there would 100% be a learning curve. If you're used to holding 9 & 3, single hand turning, single hand driving, or two handed but not release & regrab hand over hand the learning curve for backing up trailers, emergency maneuvers, tight off-road passes, sharp corners, etc I've found to be much less dramatic in practice than I'd expected it would be in theory before actually doing those things with it installed. I've found along with some nuanced disadvantages, I've since discovered some nuanced advantages with regard to having a wider-stance steering yoke, including steering ease, notably faster steering angle identification, reduced fatigue due to better reach, unimpeded dash and lower windshield visibility compared to a wheel, better driver hvac airflow, better visibility and accessibility to steering column sticks, Etc.
The horn is still the entire center though, wipers, turn signals, etc. are still the same sticks on either side of the steering column as they were before and as they are in other vehicles as well, none of that changed from wheel to yoke.
For some people though, based on your muscle memory and driving preferences there can certainly be a big learning curve were you to switch from a wheel to a yoke. No Doubt.
I just installed one of these and there are two things that no one ever mentions but are important, firstly, watch out for the heated flat cable that comes out of the yoke lower housing so as not to pierce it with the faceplate alignment points that go into the bottom of the wheel and second, I prefer to tuck the main black wire looms down under the plastic flanges so they don't get pinched inside the horn bracket when horn is pressed down. There is room for them in there, just careful not to pinch them under flange when putting the bolts in. Thanks for your very detailed instructions and clear images.
I think I’ll wait for steering by wire. The yoke needs a highly variable ratio to work effectively.
Thank you
nicely done!! Thanks for this
Got ahead of myself. Ripped of the steering wheel and messed up the clock spring and unspooled the whole thing. Now I have to wait until new years for a replacement. Great.
Did the same
I got the two pins to release and the air bag cover lifted but it won't detach from off the steering wheel. Not like yours just came right off. What do you think it is?
Thanks Rob, just replaced mine this morning, vegan garbage ripped at 52K miles. One update, the bottom clip wouldn’t release for me, had to wiggle it more and use both holes to release the airbag
Please remove the brown/red clip as well, it very important to remove the yellow and brown/red plugs before you remove the steering wheel.....else you could pull out the ribbons that control steering ....and that will be 350 bucks
Yes great shoutout, sorry if I didn't state that in the video!
I did exactly this and now I have to wait until new years to get mobile service out.
Same. Sucks. It feels like that was designed to catch people out. The way that one clip makes the ribbons of the clockspring explode like that just seems so unnecessary. The clip just just disconnect itself but noooooo… it makes a whole new mess for you to take care of.🤨
What type of bit did you need to take off the steering wheel??
Good job 👏 👍 👌
Thanks
Do you not have to disconnect the battery if you are reinstalling the same air bag?
@sinanariman1208 I’m having the same issue, driving just without an airbag in place.
Thank for the video rob. Quick question. How long it take to receive your yok wheel since you place order from hansshow?
Mine only took a couple days to arrive
This upgrade, is it going to effect the warranty from tesla?
Never mind, you already explained it in minute 26
Yeah I never asked Tesla directly, my assumption is that probably yes because while most of these parts are either the OEM or Tesla manufactured parts, it's not what I ordered from Tesla, nor what Tesla themselves installed. Again though if there were some issue in the future with something else on your steering column assembly, you could always do the same steps to swap back the original wheel first
@@robmon3241 thank you
Why should anyone with a working brain do that swap to the ridiculous yoke ?
Vehicle are driven safely with a steering wheel since 1894 ... so why should we get rid of that safety and instead get something from a sci-fi movie ( Knight Rider ), although our cars do not drive autonamous yet ?
When you make fast turns at intersection or tight curves you are not able to keep control of the vehicle 100 % because the yoke has this gap between the two horns.
This is no race car with a yoke steering on the track which is something totally different. Race cars do not have the same traffic situations with pedestrians, playing children or even animals suddenly cross the street while you are quickly turning at an intersection.
The horn button is on the wrong spot. You cannot hit it intuitive in dangerous situations. Our brain always will make us bump on the middle of the wheel in such situations. So we will not be able to warn others fast enough.
The turn signal lever has been removed and is replaced by two buttons on the left, which do not make sense at all.
Try to set your turn signal when you want to leave a roundabout with the yoke wheel upside down ... you will never hit the right button ! But this is a common traffic rule in Europe and in many other countries to signal others that you are leaving the roundabout at the next exit to maintain easy and fast traffic flow.
The damn Yoke in a roadvehicle is JOKE !
تكنولوجيا ممتاز جدا 👍💕🙏
How are you liking the yoke?
I enjoy it. Same perks still hold true as I mentioned in the video, easier to reach and the increased leverage means turns are easier because they require less effort. Really the only notable difference at this point is it's not even something I think about anymore, it just feels normal like that's how I've always driven.
@@robmon3241 I’ve had mine for a week and really lovin it
What torque did you tighten the steering wheel?
He said 42lbs, manual says 59 lb. ft (80 Nm)
You should have made the rest of the 24 minute video - you just fuckin with that wire in the steering column.. then ended it 😂
Reminds me of knight rider😂😂😂
You were lucky not to have triggered the airbag, you need to also disconnect the 12v battery!! As well as turning the car off.
Good shoutout, I had turned it off, hadn't disconnect the 12v lithium battery though just as an extra safety measure, wouldn't be a bad idea though
Power off is fine.
You're so by the book 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dato che hai fatto una fatica immane per svitare la vite del volante, non pensi che sarebbe stati meglio far fare il lavoro ad un professionista? E lo hai riavvitato con la stessa forza? Non credo... E poi per smontare l'airbag devi staccare anche la batteria. È pericolosissimo quello che hai fatto
😂😂😂 missed the torque wrench did ya?
Why should anyone with a working brain do that swap to the ridiculous yoke ?
Vehicle are driven safely with a steering wheel since 1894 ... so why should we get rid of that safety and instead get something from a sci-fi movie ( Knight Rider ), although our cars do not drive autonamous yet ?
When you make fast turns at intersection or tight curves you are not able to keep control of the vehicle 100 % because the yoke has this gap between the two horns.
This is no race car with a yoke steering on the track which is something totally different. Race cars do not have the same traffic situations with pedestrians, playing children or even animals suddenly cross the street while you are quickly turning at an intersection.
The horn button is on the wrong spot. You cannot hit it intuitive in dangerous situations. Our brain always will make us bump on the middle of the wheel in such situations. So we will not be able to warn others fast enough.
The turn signal lever has been removed and is replaced by two buttons on the left, which do not make sense at all.
Try to set your turn signal when you want to leave a roundabout with the yoke wheel upside down ... you will never hit the right button ! But this is a common traffic rule in Europe and in many other countries to signal others that you are leaving the roundabout at the next exit to maintain easy and fast traffic flow.
The damn Yoke in a roadvehicle is JOKE !
Yea I think Tesla failed on this concept. If it was a drive by wire, the ratio could change during different speeds which would make more sense
I'm not sure if you've seen Lexus's response to Tesla's way of handling yoke steering, but interesting and I'm really looking forward to hearing about it in practice once they're on the road. Here's a good video explaining it: ruclips.net/video/agMrewRJTow/видео.html
@@robmon3241 Yeah i know that Yoke from Lexus too and i have to say that they have a far better solution than Tesla has... but... the Lexus steer-by-wire got a little delay of the steering. RUclipsrs who already tested that car told, that when they turn the yoke to left or right the steering was following in a short delay which felt unnatural, but they get used to that quickly.
Definatly a better system and it might even get more polished in the next software versions.
You talk about safety. If your hand is inbetween 10 to 2 o'clock position and airbag deploy, that's a guaranteed broken arm/s. This yoke steering wheel prevents you from holding the steering wheel in that positions which is safer.
@@marccd2 In case of an accident it is never guaranteed that you have your hands in the correct 9 o´clock / 3 o´clock position.
Accidents happen in totally unexpected situations. The steering wheel has always worked well in such situations and the probability of getting serious injuries is very low .. if it was high we would not have it the way we have it ( with an airbag in the middle ).
You can look at published studies, airbags save lifes in critical traffic accidents where drivers would have died in cars without airbags. Surviving a serious accident is the main goal here. Risking to have a forearm or hand injury is a minor problem.
Reinventing the wheel offers new possibilities sure, but also brings a lot of negative effects as listed above !