Moving B&O "President Washington" Steam Locomotive
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- Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2021
- In this video, you’ll see lots of rare, never before seen footage of operations at the B&O railroad museum.
The goal for today is to move B&O 5300, a 4-6-2 class P-7 “Pacific” steam locomotive built by Baldwin in 1927. The move will take the 94 year old locomotive from the North Car Shop where it was on display to the restoration shops to be cosmetically restored.
This video took place on 8/28/21.
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A comment from England, this is not a criticism but I am surprised how few steam locos have been preserved in working order in the US compared with here in the UK. You have some fabulous engines that deserve exhibiting in working order. Regards to all from Nottingham England
Some Locs are too large to operate and make money for their museums. Without a heavy loss, no need for a heavy slow 4-8-2 mountain loco or a 4-10-2 or a 3 cylinder 4-12-2 or any 3 cylinder loco to operate. or a high stepping pacific, or atlantic that can go 90-100Mph
I think the big difference is the nationalized rail network you had for so many years after WW2 gave you a chance to have steam run far and wide. Here every railroad is it's own little fiefdom and doesn't want equipment from a museum operating on it's rail without a hefty insurance policy and big bucks to provide protection power and pilot crew. To fix this nation we really need to start with getting rid of lawsuits over every little thing.
Correct comment from England; compare the situation existing in Europe. There are quite a lot of steam locomotives in the Neverlands, Germany, less in France, Poland and even Chech. What about funding a tourist trains all around the world pulled by different locomotives, across the countries. Those train can run profitable in Europa, Asia, Africa, and the USA?
I think one of the biggest problems is that aside from the insurance claims and all that jazz is that we have tons of speed restrictions and the rails aren't as strong as they used to be so taking these behemoths out for a Scotsman like run wouldn't go very well
@@adriannash2705 understood! Shame though!
This is the first time the 5300 has moved since the late 50s. In 1957 B&O retired most steam including the P-7 class
Happy to hear about the cosmetic restoration
I didn’t know they had one of 6604’s sisters here, 6607 and the fact one of those B&O 4-6-2s is still around is just as amazing. I just hope the joints on the steam engines are well oiled & greased.
As the grandson of someone who worked in B&O’s paint shops (including working on 5300), thank you for posting this! It was great seeing her move again.
My GGrandfather was a fireman on the B&O who was killed when he stepped in front of a passing freight train. I wish there were more records available for the guys who worked there.
@@Roadglide911 would number 5300 and number 4500 get steamed.
You captured the world's first USRA locomotive too, 4500. Can't wait to see how 5300 will look when complete.
That's a light Mikado right? Or is it a heavy Mikado?
@@adriannash2705 The 4500, she's a USRA Light Mikado
What is being done to 4500?
@@hansfriess Aside from moving her like they did, nothing in particular.
25:35 it really sounds as if number 5300 is trying to breathe on her own
More like suffocation.
I mean the pistons are moving so it’s probably pulling some sort of air volume
That's what happens when you move the engine without disconnecting the piston rods, it becomes a giant air pump and it's bad for the engine, it can suck in debris etc and there's no lubrication in the cylinders while moving it
Imagine seeing those moving through St Denis all day... 👍
I wish the museum could consider restoring her to full operation because other steamers are getting the same treatment.
Hey what's the meaning of this
My Comment from Nottingham England seems to have sparked a.bit of interest, thanks for the responses.by the way our locos may be small by American standards but believe you me Flying Scotsman at 80mph with a rake of coaches is damned impressive by ANY standards!!!
Flying Scotsman did a tour of the US
@@williammacdonald3173 it did indeed a long time ago now. I was fortunate enough to meet Alan Peglar who took it to America. The trip did not have the best of outcomes up due to the marvellous efforts of certain people we are still able to enjoy this iconic machine! It maybe that the loco is a bit like William the Conquerers penknife, 4 new blades and 5 new handles but it is still VERY exciting!
Awesome. Those drone shots are fantastic! Thank you!
What an impressive collection of still operating power. Outstanding video.
Looking forward to the 200th Anniversary of the B&O!
If you'd like to view 5300 at full stride pulling a passenger train in 1956, get the DVD "B&O Classics 1936-1972"
Its also on the VHS "Golden Age of Steam Trains". 5300 is shown in the front facing the engine at a station loading passengers
Awesome video... When I was a kid my parents took my sister's and I to the Smithsonian Museum, and we spent the entire day seeing some of the most amazing things. I'm 64 years old to this day I always remember the large whale hanging from the ceiling in one room and this steam locomotive it was green and black and it was massive just remember the wheels being taller than my father and it was just amazing, and I still remember it to this day. One of these days I want to get back there and go back to the Smithsonian to see that locomotive, I hope it's still there. I still have to Lionel train sets one my parents bought the first Christmas after they got married and I have a second Lionel train set that they bought when I was a baby my first Christmas. I have all the tracks and the buildings and even all the little people that in those days you hand painted them I even still have the little round pallet of colors they came with the set, and they still run. The only thing I need to get her some new Transformers to run them, as you know they control the speed and Supply the electricity to the tracks.
Thanks for a great video. Have a wonderful day.
Let's hope that the magnificent #5300 is fully restored to operation in the next year!!!
It would be awesome, but for now they are planning on cosmetically restoring 5300.
AGREED!!!! The line for the B&ORM is connected to the MARC Camden Line, so full-on excursions are entirely possible!
@amtrak1214 I would hell yeah like to see it happen, If it's possible 5300 could run out in the midwest too like the Chicago area because she was assigned there in her later years
what kind of fantasy world are you living in
Something about watching rusty wheels slowly shine up is great!
Was waiting for someone commentary on the President Washington locomotive hope to see it restored soon !
I'm modeling the B&O @ Harpers Ferry on my O gauge layout. This great video has inspired me to add a President Washington to my collection. Just added a B&O GP30 that looks just like the one in this video. So cool to see these engines in motion and looking forward to recreating this scene.
Excellent video
Awesome video! I have only been there once.
That's me and my friend at 22:25 across the street. Nice footage!
Congratulations for being on the video
Big locomotive... Beautiful too!
Remember the books called the great railway adventures book series the B&O 5300 was on the second book of the first series paperback
The use of a drone got my LIKE!
B&O 5300 is undergoing cosmetic restoration today
Excellent video. Great drone angles! Would love to see her run. Too bad. Cosmetic is better than nothing, though.
We support you. 👍
You have great videos I’m new to your channel
Cool 6405 Sunburst. 😎👍
Nice.
Hope it's out before the summer because they don't have shops open this year and I really wanna see this engine
Hello from Kansas 🇺🇸
Why on earth would I skip ahead. B&O GP's for crying out loud! You can almost hear the old girl trying to breath as the pistons move. It will be an awesome day when this treasure fires up again. B&O is my favorite railroad just in case I didn't make that clear.
Somebody on my last video from here commented that it was "too boring" and he had to "sit through the whole boring video just to get to the point" so I added the timestamp to skip ahead. I appreciate you watching the whole thing though!
Greetings from Saint Petersburg✌✌
President Washington B&O rr no. 5300 is a very handsome "Pacific" type steam locomotive and was used for passenger train service operation, it would be nice if the 5300 was restored to operating condition for excursion train operation. The B&O railroad museum has a decent amount of impressive historic railroad equipment at their location that really sparks my interest.
Maybe someone like Ross Rowland could that job, He was actually in contact with Ed Striegel who saved 5300 and also Reading T1 4-8-4s 2100 and 2101 the latter used on the AFT and Chessie Steam Special which in turn celebrated the B&O's 150th anniversary
These are big engines. Not much is needed to have fun in the morning and observing all those pull and push actions.
Very cool
I really wished that someone would cough up the money to have this locomotive up and running again
It's way more expensive then anyone thinks. A C&O Mallet has just finished operational restoration though. The Maryland Western #1309
FSE 5, FSE 1? What are the actual model numbers of these EMD locomotives? Look like high nose GP 7's or 9's since they seem to have dynamic resistors which were really not an option on 7's. Is that Western Maryland slug an ALCO? Looks so by the trucks.
I LOVE THSI CSX TRAIN BECAUSE IT HAS A NEW HORN!
6405 is losing more water than most steam engines would drop picking up an injector!
I’m surprised they didn’t remove the connection to the piston rod so they don’t risk damaging the cylinder
Same, but it was also cool hearing that it can still hold pressure. I wonder if the lubed anything at all before the move?
@@alexpekalski8755 they can’t oil the inside of the cylinder so the rod in could damage the inside of the cylinder
The bell is like on LS&I 33!
Потрясающий мировой фотограф
Do they give it a grease job to try and preserve it for future restoration?
5300 will be running soon
Seems the GP15 is now basically working as a slug type unit
For now until they're able to repair CSX #1507.
They should build a new em-1 Yellowstone #659 almost made to preservation but it was scrapped
Yess build it
@Julian R ik
@Julian R so
@Julian R ok
@Julian R what is a yellowstone train and where are these trains located?
What was the little "6405 broke down" interlude all about?
Wonder if it had anything to do with all the water it was leaking.
Pushing B&O #5300 and other things at the B&O Railroad Museum in Baltimore Maryland. Which locomotive at the B&O Railroad Museum is your favorite? My favorite 3 are B&O #5300, B&O #4500 and Chessie System #3802.
5300 and it also ran on the CNJ main through Bound Brook
Now that’s what you call playing trains. What else have they got tucked away in the shed?🇬🇧
IS 5300 to far gone to restore it to running condition?
So whats the story on the GP15T? It seems like now its just a slug unit for the GP30
Donated last year to the museum by CSX. The museum plans on having it run under its own power at some point rather than have it as a slug.
@@TSMGL_RUclips Ah gotcha!
So they have plans to restore CSX #1507. It's just not right now.
CSX really can afford a new steam program and should grab this opportunity. Sadly, they rarely ask for my advice.
Why would they need it?
CSX is a business unless you work for them or are one of their clients they aren't going to listen
Why would they need one, the likes of one happening are unlikely even if they have been helping with 2716 & 576's rebuilds, the chances of seeing a CSX steam program is very slim.
@@evanf1293 it's thinner than a human hair!!!
@@War1109 They don't listen to most of their employees or customers, either.
The B&O Railroad Museum had some locomotives in their possession that are so significant to history that they need to be restored to operating condition what they got up there but against doing it to those locomotives I have no idea and believe me there have been other people who have said the same thing
Wish it could be restored to operating condition
What are they going to do with 5300?
If I restored it, I would change the front and instead of being a high mounted headlight, I’ll make it centered, idk it fits.
Wouldn’t fit and would most likely do more harm then good
Need to restore baltimore and annapolis locomotive number 50
note on #50: it was running on 5 cylinders when it was donated ,but was fully functional.
Yikes. That 6405 needs to be bad ordered. Yall see the waterfall cascading down the B truck?
Loved running those long nose gp’s with the clothesline horn cord and drum throttle stand and the good ol’e 24rRL….fun……..
@@mshum538 Yes the drums. Had plenty of those on Guilford!
YA. why and/or where is all that water coming from?
I'm not sure how the early gps are set up BUT the water could be from an oil after cooler leaking etc
1:16 Is 6944 a heritage unit, or one of Baltimore & Ohio’s original diesels? I like the shiny paintwork~
6944 is original B&O, however it’s not in its original paint. 6944 wore the B&O’s “Capitol Dome” paint scheme when it was still in B&O service.
Is that a Mars light on the 4500?
Does the museum own the csx engine, if so is it an ex c&o or b&o
Ex C&o
It's currently a yard slug unit for now. Until they can repair CSX #1507 ex C&O #1507, it's just gonna continue being like this.
I can’t wait to see the engine operating again. 🚂
What are you talking about it’s only getting cosmetically Restored
is Number 5300 getting steamed.
what’s or why that annoying bell?.
Any plans to cosmetically restore 2101. She ought to be top priority.
She definitely deserves that. I also think she should be brought back to Reading. She belongs in Reading, not Baltimore. I know why she is there but they just don’t take care of her or probably don’t even care.
No flanges on the drivers?
it really deserves to run and not just rust away, they all do.. you'd figure our own government that can send billions of dollars to countries that will never repay up, but sadly wont help in keeping a steam loco program going to make sure these locos can be used and be enjoyed for future generations and taught on how to maintain and run them.
Y’all need to fully restore her to her original state when she was first built
Well they would have to fabricate new drivers as these aren’t the ones it had when it was built plus this is the B&O rr musuem they can’t really do that
@@mratsfrailfan1894 ok and it’s ok that’s we’re we the people come in to help if you all put in a little we can get it built
And where would she run?
@@AdmiralColdhead where did anyone mention operational restoration?
@@mratsfrailfan1894 I’d say it was an assumption, considering it’s rather an interest of operational restoration rather than cosmetic
Is CSX 1517 operational? Or is it being powered by No. 6944
1507 doesn’t currently operate on its own. 6944 is providing power and being controlled from 1507’s cab.
@@CrossbuckProductions I wonder how come they haven't been able to get the locomotive operational on its own?
@@CRFProductions2023 time, money… they have a lot of operable diesels currently.
@@PereMarquette1223 so its a cab control car.
@@rearspeaker6364 no. It has guts, but they currently don’t operate. The locomotive was donated to them serviceable
Will they ever run it?
Are they going to restore 5300 to operation or restore its shell like they did B&O 51?
Cosmeticly, like the 51
Ok, thanks
@@railfan6116 No problem
@@09JDCTrainMan darn. I was hoping it’d be operational.
Well, actually I heard there's a possibility several years from now that number 5300 could be operationally restored.... Pending the museum's 200th anniversary
Five minutes of your video and I saw only Diesel locomotives, where is the steam ?
is 6405 a GP7?
Was 5300 being moved to the shops for cosmetic work? I think I heard that it is planned to get it soon.
Yes
@@09JDCTrainMan sounds great!
Is the engine 5300 a “big six”?
@@mshum538 No, the Big Sixes were 2-10-2 Santa Fe types, and sadly, none of the Big Sixes have been preserved. 5300 is a P-7 President Class 4-6-2 Pacific.
@@09JDCTrainMan Thank you for your advise, I was privileged to have worked with the earlier WW2 generation hoggers and heard plenty of stories about the Big Six and the Mallet’s…….MS…
Are these guys from the “Funny hat railroad club?”
Why isn’t she being operationally restored?
They have a mile of track to run on and CSX doesn’t do excursions, so no point. They can barely keep the small steamers they have going.
Also the boiler is very worn out and it has like 10 frame cracks, or so I was told by a couple of the volunteers
@@paulmishler402 all fixable, but not worth it given she has no where to run.
The likes of the B&O Railroad museum rebuilding one of their big steamers are unlikely.
@@PereMarquette1223 they dont even run the small ones anymore, idk why but i asked a volunteer today and he said they don’t have any steam in operation
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Is 6944 a GP-30?
Yes. EMD GP30 built for the B&O in 1962.
B&O 5300 Day weekend 2025
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#5300 Was Actually Named after George Washington, Which 5300 is Acused Because he was Actually named afte4 himself lol😂
So many safety concerns here with close clearance (walking between equipment and obstructions and in between moving equipment) running to make a tie or throw a switch and not to mention the number of times multiple people are giving hand signals to one engineer! Like a bunch of monkeys screwing a football at times.
Someone needs to hold a safety class! And yes I have worked on the railroad. Three or them in various capacities including T&E.
That being said the equipment while tired looking is running and it’s a great variation in the collection. Thanks for the video.
Here you go from back in the day. The 5300 running fast. Very fast. ruclips.net/video/TbCFdocYkiA/видео.html
Shame she’s not being actually restored to running status
Elon...
find a place in upper state New York that was a train repair facility and offer to fund them 1000% to start building 4 -6 -2 steam engines : when the EMP hits ur stock will Double...
After it goes Down
75 percent*
What is year now Sims no musk guys
the Aliens sterilized the area and employees before the moves happened.
Unfortunately the Washington will not run anytime soon. The cost to rehabilitate and or restore the locomotive would be estimated around the 2-10 million dollar price range.
Just look at how long and the cost to get the 4014 up and running. I don't think the museum has those kind of deep pockets to get the Washington to run.
Wether the museum has the equipment for a major overhaul and rebuild is another matter along with personel that know how to to the work correctly. Often heavy rebuilds require a steam locomotive engine to be moved to a location that can do that kind of work. Getting it right in restoration is first.
The last thing is having to redo something over because it was not done right in the first place.
I would like to see the President Washington fire up and run but unless some real big bucks are put out it's only going to be a cosmetic restoration. Steam engines are not cheap to restore. They are time and money projects. Who ever has the cash let check be cast.
The way I see if, 490 should be the next one returned to operation since its a streamlined 4-6-4, the only streamlined (unless it was a lie) hudson in the usa left
Remember that when the railroads retired steam locomotives they were pretty much religated to two fates, scrap or a museum.
The locomotives once turned over to a museum we're not maintained for the most part due what forced steam locomotives out, that was expense. No one thought of a retired steam locomotive to be restored to operate so long after retirement. But this has been going on as a resurgence for steam locomotive has been taking place lately.
As to restore the C&O Streamliner that's great but where do you operate it. As far as I know Union Pacific is the only class one railroad that has been open to operating mainline steam consistently, well yes NS but no where like UP.
The B&O only has a mile and half of track to run on so any of the big steam locomotives would never be able to run at track speed. Seems that's a waste of money to bring a large engine to life only to have it not be able to strut it's stuff as it was intended to.
As much as I want to see these grand old ladies returned to operate there's no place for them to run and show there true colors out on the mainline.
@@mid-atlanticrrandairplanes6512 I would say CSX but they are getting less steam friendly. I mean, maybe they could work something out with UP, doubt it though. Maybe BNSF would let them?
It boils down to the big L word for the most part, Liability. That's the big thing that has to be overcome.
Second is making room on the mainline for steam excursions. UP is a different company vs everybody else. The best place is going to be say a tourist railroad with the capability to operate a large steam locomotive.
Example is Iowa Interstate they have two Chinese 2-10-2 Steam locomotives in thier fleet, now you just something like that closer to Maryland.
@@mid-atlanticrrandairplanes6512 western maryland scenic railroad
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They need to move all of those historic locomotives out of Baltimore before they are destroyed or vandalized by the thugs in that cesspool. Nobody even wants to visit the museum because it's surrounded by crime.