All you need now is a custom cut pair of Live Vibe speaker stands. Their installation will be like removing all the room boundaries..3d like. 2channel surround sound without the extra clutter complexity and expense. You heard my speakers, same as in The Energy Room. Best of luck with this new speaker pair.
It looks like a great speaker. I think it's a phenomenal design. The thing i dont understand is why they make it when they have the evolution floor stander, which is cheaper, goes lower because of the extra woofer, and takes up just a fraction more floor space.
OH NO! Mickey ! Does this mean that you might be "giving up" on your love of panel speakers? (by panel are they by any chance Magnepan?) NOW . . the REAL reason for writing is my curiosity with regard to your The MUSIC floor standing speakers - soooo cool looking - I suppose it's too early to ask how your new T.A.D. speakers compare . . . INDEED the T.A.D. speakers ARE really beautiful and technically speaking they appear to really tick off all the important boxes. But what ABOUT The Music speakers? any review coming up about them? THANKS!!
Everybody get your beer, popcorn and buger shooger. OCD Mikey San is back! These Tads look awesome, and they better be at the price of a Corolla! Kanpai namaste Asahi!
Jeezz Mikey I thought I just brought your best looking speakers ( Liberty ) From you Give it up for the Japanese s They do know how to spend money Happy Times always with you.
@@OCDHIFiGuy You don't want to know! That why I have to beg my wife for an allowance If my 2002tii ever gets done I'll drive it out to your place listen to your stereo rig and buy those TAD speakers, as I'll have enough money, because you'll have bought my 2002tii 😄😁🤑
Japanese made some cutting edge high end speakers that never hit the US . with the exception of some Yamaha and Fostex in studios - Onkyo( Scepter) Mitsubishi (Diatone) Sansui,Kenwood (trio) , Sony Technics ,JVC ( Victor) TAD has been carrying that torch to another level
T.A.D. was Pioneer's attempt to become accepted in the speaker business in the USA. They hired Bart Locanthi from JBL to bring that USA sound with him to their products. Using the technological approach the Japanese were famous for.
Amazing Bart's been gone thirty years ... unbelievable. He was at the forefront '60 to '94 JBL lenses and drivers, one of Pioner's greatest loudspeakers ever, HPM-100. With TAD, Locanthi developed the finest drivers in the world. Then TAD brought this to the pro audio, sound reinforcement world. True 20hz capabilty drivers, in PA platforms, w/cost no object beryllium HF, nothing had ever sounded that sweet in the high SPL live sound world. Worth noting it was '79, a TAD concert PA outdoors. A mammoth sound system for the biggest act in the world at that time, the Eagles. (Eagles, in '79, just after Hotel California, they release The Long Run, their absolute peak). TAD, respect. TAD's Kung-fu is good. Check out TAD Kinoshita monitors. Apologies coffee, it's a helluva drug ...
The previous model CE1 was priced 22k € (stands included) in Germany and this "New" model costs 34k €. And the loudspeaker has completely the same shape and look. What has TAD improved for 12k? It is a robbery on audiophiles. It's a good sounding and well build bookshelf speaker but not worth that much money. Sorry Mike
I can't agree... this is the only speaker I've heard in a box so far that can image like my panels. Yes, it's a premium. But it's best in class for sure... there's a reason Omega Watches exist.. and a Timex will tell time just as good...
@@OCDHIFiGuy you don't want to understand my point. I had not critized build quality and sound quality of speakers. I critized only price gap between previous model and this "new" model. And I am sure that only some cheap parts were changed. Cabinet and so on seems 100% identical. Maybe you could compare it to CE1. ;-)
When the CE1 came out I was underwhelmed @@adrianm1949- probably because I'd heard the CR1. I'm seroiusly looking to get a good trade -n price for my TAD 2404 and get these ...
Love TAD. I was wondering what type of stands are they are on and how tall are stands.! How much of this speaker was designed by Andrew Jones and how much is really different?
@@OCDHIFiGuy forgot the specs but you know the Swiss people. they are like Germans squared. most likely, admired by YT. we youtubers only have YT when selecting gear and nothing else. and Amir's measurements (right now, Amir is getting into speakers measurements. I expect a lot of turmoil in the coming months. Since he measured cables and DACs, I never visited a single used market site nor made a single offer for anything). There is Alumine 3 and Alumine 5. Yea, the name is stupid. So stupid that I never made a single offer for Bryston (because the stupid name always implicated it is bright and who would buy something bright)
@@OCDHIFiGuy Asked used price for CR1 Mk1 were $22k but I saw closed deals $17k. As soon as Mk2 was out. Probably that is R1 Mk2. R1 Mk1 was played at 83k, 75k, depending on the magazine. Then a bunch came on used markets. 35k was asked. My offers were 26k firm. I saw one sold for $28k. At that time, all sales, no exception, were based on RUclips and only RUclips. I saw a lot of fantastic Sophia 3 YT renditions and Sophias were selling like crazy. Same thing with Sasha 1 (much less Sasha 2). None of higher offering, forgot the name, was it Alexia or..not sure, msrp was 54k. None could sell. ZERO used sales. I saw people selling Alexia for $22k - no sale. Why? Because YT renditions were shytty. Then they introduced Mk2 but my mind parted with it forever. Same thing with all Giya except the top of the line G1. Shyte, shyte, shyte, all renditions on YT. Then, re Wilson, I concluded it must be titanium that YT loves on Sophias and Sasha1, but Alexia did not have titanium, I think they went with soft dome. CR1 is admired by YT as well. There was some Japanese dealer 10yrs ago, excellent setup, now I would call him Japanese Mikey because this guy liked to put side by side all top speakers of the day and then switch back and forth to compare. He used TAD pre and amps.
Big speakers are not a reality for many people...and my big rig is an active Quad Amp system.. Totally different and incomparable. These do what the big system does in a smaller scale.
Because I'm not like other naive RUclipsrs that comment on the sound in Vid #1 .... too early for that. . Let's just say it's totally surprising me and I'm the most staunch, anti gouging guy out here. You're just pissed because it's beyond your means. Your nose is rubbed in shit for calling it a toy... get an effing clue...LEARN WHAT LUXURY PRODUCT MEANS...a T.A.D. buyer WONT CONSIDER $15K speakers....
@@OCDHIFiGuy bro Stop replying back to poor people This same flog wouldn't know what a rack with vibration control can do to audio gear . Just do what I do, before I talk to flogs, send me a picture of your system. Then we talk
Having owned one of the older TAD reference models from 2010 onwards, i would say TAD makes some of the best speakers on earth.
Agreed...
perhaps, the finest loudspeaker brand in the world.
I agree... one of the finest for sure.
I would agree with that ...
All you need now is a custom cut pair of Live Vibe speaker stands. Their installation will be like removing all the room boundaries..3d like. 2channel surround sound without the extra clutter complexity and expense. You heard my speakers, same as in The Energy Room. Best of luck with this new speaker pair.
Awesome Mikey. Very happy for you and your biz
Thanks !
Hi mike.
These speakers are amazing.
They are too expensive for me but I love them.
I love too see some sound clips.
Gr André de vries.
Thanks Andre, you know quality when you see it...
Congratulations, I’ve heard that they are some of the best in the world.
They truly are
Mickey i am sold! Most people do not what they are taking about in hifi audio real world and you do! thanks Gabriel
Lovely TAD speakers, always had a soft spot for them. Above my price category, but maybe one day. Meanwhile I listen to the older Pioneers.
They start under $20K ;-)
This is a big damn deal. these guys are amazing.
It is Chris..
Hey call me again if you will please. I lost your incoming no. ;-)
Killer speakers! Congrats.
Thanks Howard !
my endgame speaker period!
I think these were the models in one room at AXPONA. They were fantastic! One of only a handful of rooms that were memorable.
Yes, a different pair technically, but same model... ;-)
It looks like a great speaker.
I think it's a phenomenal design. The thing i dont understand is why they make it when they have the evolution floor stander, which is cheaper, goes lower because of the extra woofer, and takes up just a fraction more floor space.
Because it's not as good. This is closer to Ref level....
OH NO! Mickey ! Does this mean that you might be "giving up" on your love of panel speakers? (by panel are they by any chance Magnepan?) NOW . . the REAL reason for writing is my curiosity with regard to your The MUSIC floor standing speakers - soooo cool looking - I suppose it's too early to ask how your new T.A.D. speakers compare . . . INDEED the T.A.D. speakers ARE really beautiful and technically speaking they appear to really tick off all the important boxes. But what ABOUT The Music speakers? any review coming up about them? THANKS!!
Everybody get your beer, popcorn and buger shooger.
OCD Mikey San is back!
These Tads look awesome, and they better be at the price of a Corolla!
Kanpai namaste Asahi!
Kanpai !
Jeezz Mikey I thought I just brought your best looking speakers ( Liberty ) From you Give it up for the Japanese s They do know how to spend money Happy Times always with you.
TAD great speakers!! But im afraid they are a tad too expensive for me
They start below 20K. A rotisserie rebuild of an old BMW 2002. 🤔 How much will that whole thing cost ? You CAN afford what you want... ;-)
@@OCDHIFiGuy
You don't want to know! That why I have to beg my wife for an allowance If my 2002tii ever gets done I'll drive it out to your place listen to your stereo rig and buy those TAD speakers, as I'll have enough money, because you'll have bought my 2002tii 😄😁🤑
Japanese made some cutting edge high end speakers that never hit the US . with the exception of some Yamaha and Fostex in studios - Onkyo( Scepter) Mitsubishi (Diatone) Sansui,Kenwood (trio) , Sony Technics ,JVC ( Victor) TAD has been carrying that torch to another level
Thats for sure !
T.A.D. was Pioneer's attempt to become accepted in the speaker business in the USA. They hired Bart Locanthi from JBL to bring that USA sound with him to their products. Using the technological approach the Japanese were famous for.
Looks like they've succeeded!!
Amazing Bart's been gone thirty years ... unbelievable.
He was at the forefront '60 to '94
JBL lenses and drivers, one of Pioner's greatest loudspeakers ever, HPM-100.
With TAD, Locanthi developed the finest drivers in the world. Then TAD brought this to the pro audio, sound reinforcement world.
True 20hz capabilty drivers, in PA platforms, w/cost no object beryllium HF, nothing had ever sounded that sweet in the high SPL live sound world.
Worth noting it was '79, a TAD concert PA outdoors. A mammoth sound system
for the biggest act in the world at that time, the Eagles.
(Eagles, in '79, just after Hotel California, they release The Long Run, their absolute peak).
TAD, respect.
TAD's Kung-fu is good.
Check out TAD Kinoshita monitors.
Apologies
coffee, it's a helluva drug ...
I remember Evolution. They cut corners with it. The little CR1 remains a dream of mine. I regret not plunging $18k for a used one
Yes, that would be a regret. This speaker was introduced in February of this year. It's all new. ;-)
@@OCDHIFiGuy Could be release 2? CR1 had Mk1 and Mk2 hence a used one Mk1 went for $20k. The old Evolution could not approach CR1 Mk1.
The previous model CE1 was priced 22k € (stands included) in Germany and this "New" model costs 34k €. And the loudspeaker has completely the same shape and look. What has TAD improved for 12k? It is a robbery on audiophiles. It's a good sounding and well build bookshelf speaker but not worth that much money. Sorry Mike
I totally agree with you.
I can't agree... this is the only speaker I've heard in a box so far that can image like my panels. Yes, it's a premium. But it's best in class for sure... there's a reason Omega Watches exist.. and a Timex will tell time just as good...
@@OCDHIFiGuy you don't want to understand my point. I had not critized build quality and sound quality of speakers. I critized only price gap between previous model and this "new" model. And I am sure that only some cheap parts were changed. Cabinet and so on seems 100% identical. Maybe you could compare it to CE1. ;-)
When the CE1 came out I was underwhelmed @@adrianm1949- probably because I'd heard the CR1. I'm seroiusly looking to get a good trade -n price for my TAD 2404 and get these ...
Andrew Jones, who ofc designed speakers for TAD, says that speaker burn-in doesn’t do anything, so gj for hearing it yourself.
Yeah, these are the new designs. Just released a few months ago... I've heard speaker break in many times. I think it's real.
Love TAD. I was wondering what type of stands are they are on and how tall are stands.! How much of this speaker was designed by Andrew Jones and how much is really different?
These TX TAD models have updated drivers, I'm not sure on everything else though.
@@mugen2002 just curious as I have some pre 2009 TAD bookshelves that never went into production. Sound nice, but can be harsh!
Dear friend. Which cables are you using on the tad ?
My fav all time speaker Brand, "mostly" above all others
Yes, I agree... there are other greats too..
Who designed these speakers Mr Mike ? Was it Andrew Jones ? ,. He was with TAD remember ? why not challenge these ?
2 reasons. It's not $5K, which is my challenge. Dumb ass level... second, this was not designed by AJ. This is a new design with some similarities..
I have a pair of 11-year-old TAD speakers. I replaced them this year but just couldn't get myself to sell them.
They are amazing !!
to complete the offering all you need is Stenheim Alumine
Sounds like Aluminum Drivers.. I don't like those usually
@@OCDHIFiGuy forgot the specs but you know the Swiss people. they are like Germans squared. most likely, admired by YT. we youtubers only have YT when selecting gear and nothing else. and Amir's measurements (right now, Amir is getting into speakers measurements. I expect a lot of turmoil in the coming months. Since he measured cables and DACs, I never visited a single used market site nor made a single offer for anything). There is Alumine 3 and Alumine 5. Yea, the name is stupid. So stupid that I never made a single offer for Bryston (because the stupid name always implicated it is bright and who would buy something bright)
Great vid, Mikey! 👊🏻👊🏻
Thanks Dan !!
R1 used went for low 30s, still fresh pricing in my memory. Forget all 83k and 75k nonsense
R1 is $160K... go buy used if you like... ;-)
@@OCDHIFiGuy Asked used price for CR1 Mk1 were $22k but I saw closed deals $17k. As soon as Mk2 was out. Probably that is R1 Mk2. R1 Mk1 was played at 83k, 75k, depending on the magazine. Then a bunch came on used markets. 35k was asked. My offers were 26k firm. I saw one sold for $28k. At that time, all sales, no exception, were based on RUclips and only RUclips. I saw a lot of fantastic Sophia 3 YT renditions and Sophias were selling like crazy. Same thing with Sasha 1 (much less Sasha 2). None of higher offering, forgot the name, was it Alexia or..not sure, msrp was 54k. None could sell. ZERO used sales. I saw people selling Alexia for $22k - no sale. Why? Because YT renditions were shytty. Then they introduced Mk2 but my mind parted with it forever. Same thing with all Giya except the top of the line G1. Shyte, shyte, shyte, all renditions on YT. Then, re Wilson, I concluded it must be titanium that YT loves on Sophias and Sasha1, but Alexia did not have titanium, I think they went with soft dome. CR1 is admired by YT as well. There was some Japanese dealer 10yrs ago, excellent setup, now I would call him Japanese Mikey because this guy liked to put side by side all top speakers of the day and then switch back and forth to compare. He used TAD pre and amps.
@@OCDHIFiGuy Here is Japanese Mikey comparing R1 Mk2 and Scala v2: d6fOoqBesmI?t=401
Wow! Congratulations!
Thanks !
These are awesome, no sub needed wow. Sounds like they cost more than what you have in the big rig though. Which sounds better?
Big speakers are not a reality for many people...and my big rig is an active Quad Amp system..
Totally different and incomparable. These do what the big system does in a smaller scale.
Gershman Avant Garde less 💵. Hard to beat
If you want a pointy head black Canadian pylon in your room... But yes, good sounding stuff. And good people too
7 inch woofer in a vented box for 32k and all you can talk about is the glossy woodgrain finish :D It is nothing more than an expensive toy speaker !!
Because I'm not like other naive RUclipsrs that comment on the sound in Vid #1 .... too early for that. . Let's just say it's totally surprising me and I'm the most staunch, anti gouging guy out here. You're just pissed because it's beyond your means. Your nose is rubbed in shit for calling it a toy... get an effing clue...LEARN WHAT LUXURY PRODUCT MEANS...a T.A.D. buyer WONT CONSIDER $15K speakers....
@@OCDHIFiGuy bro
Stop replying back to poor people
This same flog wouldn't know what a rack with vibration control can do to audio gear .
Just do what I do, before I talk to flogs, send me a picture of your system. Then we talk
you know that person that opens their mouth and removes all doubt ? I heard these at Munich and worth every penny ... @@Music_time82
Very interested in the smaller reference CR1TX but I wish they were less $
I own them,it’s a pleasure every day.
How does the CE1x compare to the ME1?
Scales up for a larger room. It's larger drivers
Nice!
For sure
..
Pioneer speakers were also good.
OK.
I'd be happy with the less expensive ME1.
Have not heard it yet.
Them TADs……are the Nads
Lol. GREAT T SHIRT !! My buddy calls the people in the T.A.D. room at the show "T.A.D.Poles"
STAX products are also true Japanese hi end.
No music. Why not?
Different video..
Try his out on your new TADs
Artist- Ott
Album- Mir
Lol. I know both ;-) you forgot Younger Brother, and Blumenkraft.
@@OCDHIFiGuy nice. I will check those two out. How about Globular?
Is House of stereo not the reps for TAD now?
Nope. Dealer.
Please what about TAD dac or amplifier
Not here yet.
Be good with Medium Fi Gear?
Depends what.
I like the speakers but don't like their prices.
I know, it's a premium product at a premium price. But I'm the mofo to call out gougery if you can't tell...this is worth the money.
I lookat vintage tad
F and YEAH!
Word !
Suh-weet
Price of a used Honda Civic, no prob!
What's a used Honda Civic... ??
Off topic. Not sure the best place to ask or if you even care to throw your 2 cents in BUT
what are you thoughts on the speaker brand Tekton?
Decent for the money. You'll eventually sell them to upgrade. I consider it a good value "stepping stone" speaker.
@@OCDHIFiGuy well I'm currently running a Denon x2400 avr with Yamaha ns777's with a phase tech WL10
Point being anything would be an upgrade almost lol
Lusting over tube power when considering Tekton as well.. hmm!
Love TAD , but they're out of reach.
They start at $19K... maybe find a used pair... ??
If they come with grills, can you show a shot with grills even if you take them off for careful listening.
No Grilles Joe...
Werd!