Sneako's argument about Cuties being "realistic" holds no water. You know what else is realistic? Murders. Yet I dont think studios should be literally killing their actors when their character is supposed to die. Child abuse is also very realistic, yet I dont think that other actors (or really anybody) should be literally beating kids for the sake of a movie. Same thing with the sexualization of children. Yes its a very real thing that happens, but that doesnt give studios the right to sexualize their child actor.
I would absolutely love to sit down and debate Sneako about trans rights, because from what I’ve gathered he’s very much against it. And the slur dropping is actually insane. That’s not “funny” those terms have been used to harm so many groups of people.
Holy shit Sneako contradicts himself so fucking much. He literally defeats his own argument of "You can't just believe in yourself that incest and pedophilia are wrong" when he was ranting about he believes in islamic values because he believes they are right within himself. I cant remember the verbatim its around the 2-3.5hour mark
Sneiko's point that it was legal to marry someone under 18 for thousands of years makes no sense. It was legal to own slaves or as Charlie said cannibalize in many great civilizations, and both became illegal for a reason. Sneiko is straight up cherrypicking
Sneako's point: someone changes their gender and no one bats an eye... But when a 25 year old man wants to marry a 12 year old, everybody loses their minds!
what is the definition of maturity at that point? what is the basis of maturity? what is the criteria for maturity? mental maturity or physical maturity? how do you test for maturity? because sneako’s logic of consent is so stupid
You got people going through puberty at the early ages of 8 for girls and 9 for boys. does that make them physically mature or does that mean that they are now an adult, what the fuck are these arguments?
2:28:53 - Sneako saying that two 16 year olds can legally consent to bedroom activities with each other but legally cannot consent to marry until 18 in the U.S. is actually not true. There are jurisdictions in which, with their parents' permission, they *can* get married. In some places, that is the ONLY situation in which the government permits someone to emancipate from their parents. So, not only is his information faulty, it really just negates his entire argument on the reasoning behind the morality of his position. Also, at 2:28:23 - Sneako says that Charlie's belief in 18 being the standard is based on the government setting that standard (i.e., it's the law). But he also says multiple times that it actually is 16 in most U.S. jurisdictions. So...which is it, buddy? You can't play both cards depending on when it is convenient. Is 18 a social convention (i.e., Hollywood pushing it, like he claims much earlier), or is it the law? In your own words buddy, we can't keep changing terms because they have meaning. If we don't abide by those meanings (not just when they are convenient), "society" will "crumble." Moron.
Honestly, at about an hour in, i can see sneakos logic of "these things happen and should be made aware" because it should, but saying your favourite movie is Cuties and saying its worth it to make these child actresses victims for the sake of pushing your awareness is not right. I think a big contributor on making awareness are the true crime and documentaries, but the directors arent personally putting the kids through this. It already happened, and while the directors cant change the past, they can show the world the horrors of what happens
I usually agree 100% with Charlie especially with the marriage part, but I do think it’s Ironic that he says a child can permanently alter their body with consent from their parents but can’t get married with all around consent.
he explained that he thought sneako was being hyperbolic - there is no country in the world where a child can get gender affirming surgery. transition for children is literally just changing names and wearing different clothes. it's fully reversible
@@wormsvvorth Absolutely. Coming from a ftm guy, it was therapy (originally for depression), changing clothes and hair, and I only got hormone therapy once I was a legal adult. Same with top surgery.
The whole "Does someone become an adult at 18 or at physical maturity" argument was very frustrating to listen to from both sides, because it could've easily been resolved. A LEGAL adult is someone who is 18 or older. A BIOLOGICAL adult is someone who is past puberty. These are two definitions of adult that are equally correct in their own contexts. Charlie's "adult" is a legal adult, someone over 18. Sneako's "adult" is biological, someone past puberty. Neither of them are wrong with their own definitions within their contexts, but what they both failed to convey is that "adult" can have different meanings depending on the context.
True but their definitions also don't factor in mental maturity. Mental maturity is just as important as physical maturity. Sneako sitting there and saying it is completely ok for a 12 year old (who is physically mature) to marry an 18 year old is absolutely disgusting no matter what definition you use.
@@_Kriptik_oh I absolutely agree with you. Sorry if I came across as thinking that both sides are equally right or wrong with their core point of whether or not a minor should be able to marry, that wasn't my intention. Sneako's criteria for marriage based on the debate is: 1: Be physically mature And... thats about it. It seems like he only really values marriage for the sex. He doesn't seem to care if she is mentally mature, emotionally mature, or since he's religious he should also probably be interested in spiritual maturity in a potential mate but he never gave even a hint of that.
Almost everything sneako’s saying is wrong (or didn’t change anything) but the trans thing and the other way around for penguinz0. There does need to be a line and 18 is a good number and I don’t know if Charlie just doesn’t wanna get the hate but no someone under 18 should not cut off there d*ck, you shouldn’t really every but do whatever you want after your 18 if your not smart enough to not do it then then most likely nothings gonna change but you shouldn’t be able to make any permanent change like that as a kid just the same as a tattoo except obviously one is a lot bigger then the other. (No hate but for the idea sneako is pushing for and the trans thing and take with a grain of salt only 3 hours in)
charlie lowkey cringe this whole argument sneako clearly gets under his skin and is literally malding while sneako doesnt even give a fk what charlie thinks about him end of the day, im a fan of charlie but its just sad to see
Sneako's argument about Cuties being "realistic" holds no water. You know what else is realistic? Murders. Yet I dont think studios should be literally killing their actors when their character is supposed to die. Child abuse is also very realistic, yet I dont think that other actors (or really anybody) should be literally beating kids for the sake of a movie. Same thing with the sexualization of children. Yes its a very real thing that happens, but that doesnt give studios the right to sexualize their child actor.
Fact, Sneako's a fucking weirdo for that take ngl
Sneako really just sounds like he wants to marry a 17 year old
At least he doesn’t want kids switching their gender.
@@Allahuakbar2001do you actually think kids getting SA’d is better than them being trans 😭 go feel the sun on your skin you bridge troll
Idk maybe he’s just defending a friend again😂
@@Allahuakbar2001 you’re username explains you’re behavior perfectly 😂
Oh my god. Goober. You are my savior.
i didn’t even know there was enough drama to make a 4 hour video
nah FR
I would absolutely love to sit down and debate Sneako about trans rights, because from what I’ve gathered he’s very much against it. And the slur dropping is actually insane. That’s not “funny” those terms have been used to harm so many groups of people.
Notice how he also misgendered Ava Tyson in the debate. Not sure if that was intentional or not
Shut up bro
@@Brizzletherizzle your bummy bro
@@Brizzletherizzle erm okay? 😭😭
Lmao fr, though he’d probably switch up on you mid convo 😭
"We need to set terms" "A child is under 18"... "YOU NEVER DEFINED WHAT A CHILD IS!!!!!!"
The literal definition of a child is a young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority.
Holy shit Sneako contradicts himself so fucking much. He literally defeats his own argument of "You can't just believe in yourself that incest and pedophilia are wrong" when he was ranting about he believes in islamic values because he believes they are right within himself. I cant remember the verbatim its around the 2-3.5hour mark
Sneako is a joke
Sneiko's point that it was legal to marry someone under 18 for thousands of years makes no sense. It was legal to own slaves or as Charlie said cannibalize in many great civilizations, and both became illegal for a reason. Sneiko is straight up cherrypicking
This could stop the worldhunger thanks brother hahaha
a 4 hour video on drama is crazy
Sneako's point: someone changes their gender and no one bats an eye...
But when a 25 year old man wants to marry a 12 year old, everybody loses their minds!
what is the definition of maturity at that point? what is the basis of maturity? what is the criteria for maturity? mental maturity or physical maturity? how do you test for maturity? because sneako’s logic of consent is so stupid
biology
You got people going through puberty at the early ages of 8 for girls and 9 for boys. does that make them physically mature or does that mean that they are now an adult, what the fuck are these arguments?
Thank you Mr.Goober ive been wanting to know
i love your videos so much i got high as fuck and told all my friends about you
Goober loves you back :D
I love these, one feedback id like to add is to add timestamps with the titles of the videos, other than that, nice comp
Batman V Superman has got nothing on this rivalry.
2:28:53 - Sneako saying that two 16 year olds can legally consent to bedroom activities with each other but legally cannot consent to marry until 18 in the U.S. is actually not true. There are jurisdictions in which, with their parents' permission, they *can* get married. In some places, that is the ONLY situation in which the government permits someone to emancipate from their parents. So, not only is his information faulty, it really just negates his entire argument on the reasoning behind the morality of his position.
Also, at 2:28:23 - Sneako says that Charlie's belief in 18 being the standard is based on the government setting that standard (i.e., it's the law). But he also says multiple times that it actually is 16 in most U.S. jurisdictions. So...which is it, buddy? You can't play both cards depending on when it is convenient. Is 18 a social convention (i.e., Hollywood pushing it, like he claims much earlier), or is it the law?
In your own words buddy, we can't keep changing terms because they have meaning. If we don't abide by those meanings (not just when they are convenient), "society" will "crumble." Moron.
Very good compilation
Honestly, at about an hour in, i can see sneakos logic of "these things happen and should be made aware" because it should, but saying your favourite movie is Cuties and saying its worth it to make these child actresses victims for the sake of pushing your awareness is not right. I think a big contributor on making awareness are the true crime and documentaries, but the directors arent personally putting the kids through this. It already happened, and while the directors cant change the past, they can show the world the horrors of what happens
You should've included Sneako's responses IMO. I understand they're on Rumble but still, they shouldn't be hard to find.
12:09 the best opener
Thx goober for this
Oh wow, gonna listen to this dunrning the car ride
This is gonna be fire
He’s acting like a women trying to force the truth and trying to raise his voice higher then penguinz and he swears he’s a man😂
I so badly wanna hear Charlie yell at this freak. He talks over him so much, it's annoying!
Adolph Extensions
this is a banger
WOOO YEAH BABY
I usually agree 100% with Charlie especially with the marriage part, but I do think it’s Ironic that he says a child can permanently alter their body with consent from their parents but can’t get married with all around consent.
he explained that he thought sneako was being hyperbolic - there is no country in the world where a child can get gender affirming surgery. transition for children is literally just changing names and wearing different clothes. it's fully reversible
@@wormsvvorth Absolutely. Coming from a ftm guy, it was therapy (originally for depression), changing clothes and hair, and I only got hormone therapy once I was a legal adult. Same with top surgery.
The whole "Does someone become an adult at 18 or at physical maturity" argument was very frustrating to listen to from both sides, because it could've easily been resolved. A LEGAL adult is someone who is 18 or older. A BIOLOGICAL adult is someone who is past puberty. These are two definitions of adult that are equally correct in their own contexts. Charlie's "adult" is a legal adult, someone over 18. Sneako's "adult" is biological, someone past puberty. Neither of them are wrong with their own definitions within their contexts, but what they both failed to convey is that "adult" can have different meanings depending on the context.
True but their definitions also don't factor in mental maturity. Mental maturity is just as important as physical maturity. Sneako sitting there and saying it is completely ok for a 12 year old (who is physically mature) to marry an 18 year old is absolutely disgusting no matter what definition you use.
@@_Kriptik_oh I absolutely agree with you. Sorry if I came across as thinking that both sides are equally right or wrong with their core point of whether or not a minor should be able to marry, that wasn't my intention. Sneako's criteria for marriage based on the debate is:
1: Be physically mature
And... thats about it. It seems like he only really values marriage for the sex. He doesn't seem to care if she is mentally mature, emotionally mature, or since he's religious he should also probably be interested in spiritual maturity in a potential mate but he never gave even a hint of that.
buddy my friend started her period when she was in middle school. I'm pretty sure her body isn't mature enough
If morality wasn’t subject to change over time, Islam wouldn’t even exist bc God would have gotten it right with the Old Testament
brother am i bored to listen to sneako, he sounds like a flat earth conspiracy theorist
honestly charlie was not looking good in that long debate
how do?
so?*
Almost everything sneako’s saying is wrong (or didn’t change anything) but the trans thing and the other way around for penguinz0. There does need to be a line and 18 is a good number and I don’t know if Charlie just doesn’t wanna get the hate but no someone under 18 should not cut off there d*ck, you shouldn’t really every but do whatever you want after your 18 if your not smart enough to not do it then then most likely nothings gonna change but you shouldn’t be able to make any permanent change like that as a kid just the same as a tattoo except obviously one is a lot bigger then the other. (No hate but for the idea sneako is pushing for and the trans thing and take with a grain of salt only 3 hours in)
Wow.
I may or may not be the first person to comment on this video.
charlie lowkey cringe this whole argument sneako clearly gets under his skin and is literally malding while sneako doesnt even give a fk what charlie thinks about him end of the day, im a fan of charlie but its just sad to see
2:28:58 "what the fuck... no."