Super cool to see those updates. Did you ever consider Grimani systems speakers? I know they also use all active speakers with digital crossovers and DSP. Skimmed through Pro Audio Technology's website. The SCR-15sm Would look badass for your LCR's with those big horns. Real old school cinema speakers. Might have been too big for your room though :D
What are the dims of this room again? I love that you are doing 20 channels in a room this size. People think I’m crazy for doing 13 + 4 subs in my room but now I can point to yours and claim to be reasonable 😂!
@@marcalvarado1915 total dims are 13x 18.5x9. Not super small but not super big either. The room is just shy of being fully pressurized with the speakers and subs now. I think adding the waveforming and an infra will for sure get it there.
So you’re not using any Theory ALC Controllers (with the built-in ‘Automator’ software). So in your setup you are using multiple Theory DLC Amps (like DLC-250.4 ‘s)… so just using their DLC amps, can you still use Theory’s ‘Automator’ software?
The room looks great! I like the choice in speakers as I have not seen many folks use this brand, but that might be due to active design. We(deep sea sound) had thought if we develop speakers we would go with an active design.
The driver resembles the B&C driver made in Italy. Thank you for the update. I always enjoy seeing what you have going on. I used to bi amp my last speakers too. I’ll be curious to see if you not any audible difference.
@@RobZelinka the biamping, tri and quad amping are taken care of in the amplifier. The DSP handles the crossovers in the amp Itself. This isn’t simply a matter of making the same wattage to each section of the speaker. This has been laboriously designed for optimal performance
Likely a B&C driver, the #1 pro audio drivers. PSA also uses their drivers which are super popular in the extreme enthusiast subwoofer HT crowd and DIY crowd. You'll only get hate from the JTR crowd for some weird reason. I'm a little surprised that the port tune is 19hz for such a large box, comparing to Marty/PSA subs. On a side note i've been looking for so extreme in-wall options for my home and those dual 12's look like a fantastic option! i'll need to figure out what i can use for grills though.
@@marcgallant5270 hey! If youre looking for Pro audio technology, look me up. Im happy to help with those dual 12s. Im about to do those in the back of the room.
Looks like the port is tuned at 19hz based off the frequency response. I’m sure it is loud af but you are missing on on some low end if the tune is at 19hz I’m a big fan of sealed large drivers or ported designs like jtr where the tune is at 10hz.
I've been in this game for over 20 years and you not missing much. Not sure what's the obsession with low infrasonics. I see noobs usually make this the most important aspect and it's just B.S
Plus you can just slap some bass shakers properly and get 5hz with earthquake if you so interested in some of the lows that are like 3% of your total experience.
@@Masterslessons there is a good amount of content down to 15hz. 10 to 14 is rarer but you can definitely feel when it there in a system that has output in that region. You will notice in my comment that I didn’t mention anything about it being necessary but I feel like it’s worth having. Especially at this price point. It’s a really good sub. A 15 hz tune would have been more bad ass. Of course the enclosure would be a little larger.
@@bigjack79 it may be higher from what i remember. I think they are higher to help with speed of the driver. These arent meant for infra but can handle a little.
I love these kinds of videos. This is back to your roots bro! Keep more of these coming.
Super cool to see those updates. Did you ever consider Grimani systems speakers? I know they also use all active speakers with digital crossovers and DSP.
Skimmed through Pro Audio Technology's website. The SCR-15sm Would look badass for your LCR's with those big horns. Real old school cinema speakers.
Might have been too big for your room though :D
what happened with the Ascendo Black Swan and 50" sub system
What are the dims of this room again? I love that you are doing 20 channels in a room this size. People think I’m crazy for doing 13 + 4 subs in my room but now I can point to yours and claim to be reasonable 😂!
@@marcalvarado1915 total dims are 13x 18.5x9. Not super small but not super big either. The room is just shy of being fully pressurized with the speakers and subs now. I think adding the waveforming and an infra will for sure get it there.
So you’re not using any Theory ALC Controllers (with the built-in ‘Automator’ software). So in your setup you are using multiple Theory DLC Amps (like DLC-250.4 ‘s)… so just using their DLC amps, can you still use Theory’s ‘Automator’ software?
Man, it's going to be a killer system. Can't wait to see more updates. Are you still 110 or 220 in the room voltage
@@thecrowe357 currently mutliple 110 20
Amp circuits. I still have the 220s in case i need an amp or subs that would be optimized with it.
The room looks great! I like the choice in speakers as I have not seen many folks use this brand, but that might be due to active design. We(deep sea sound) had thought if we develop speakers we would go with an active design.
The driver resembles the B&C driver made in Italy.
Thank you for the update. I always enjoy seeing what you have going on. I used to bi amp my last speakers too. I’ll be curious to see if you not any audible difference.
@@RobZelinka the biamping, tri and quad amping are taken care of in the amplifier. The DSP handles the crossovers in the amp
Itself. This isn’t simply a matter of making the same wattage to each section of the speaker. This has been laboriously designed for optimal performance
WOW!! I bet that Trinonv sounds awesome! Your shooting for legendary status if you keep moving forward!
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Hi sir,
May I ask why you didn’t like the horns?
@@nicktube3904 there is better stuff out there for less money. I sold all my ascenbo and purchased PRO audio technology
Likely a B&C driver, the #1 pro audio drivers. PSA also uses their drivers which are super popular in the extreme enthusiast subwoofer HT crowd and DIY crowd. You'll only get hate from the JTR crowd for some weird reason. I'm a little surprised that the port tune is 19hz for such a large box, comparing to Marty/PSA subs. On a side note i've been looking for so extreme in-wall options for my home and those dual 12's look like a fantastic option! i'll need to figure out what i can use for grills though.
@@marcgallant5270 hey! If youre looking for Pro audio technology, look me up. Im happy to help with those dual 12s. Im about to do those in the back of the room.
I love diy subs! I built an enclosure and upgraded the driver twice, will be upgrading drive one more time in the same enclosure. Upgrading is fun!
Those are the kind of subwoofers where you may have to soundproof the entire house, LOL!
What price are you talking about for these speakers and subs? Cant wait to see this complete. Hiw many subs are doing for waveforming?
@@battousai412 i lost count. Its a pretty performance driven system and the price reflects. Waveforming is done with the trinnov and 6 subs in my room
Congratulations 🎉 I hope you like my suggestions. Keep up the good work.
When you invest so much into your system you end up listening to your speakers instead of listening to the content. Ask me how I know lol.
Damn!!
Looks like the port is tuned at 19hz based off the frequency response. I’m sure it is loud af but you are missing on on some low end if the tune is at 19hz
I’m a big fan of sealed large drivers or ported designs like jtr where the tune is at 10hz.
I've been in this game for over 20 years and you not missing much. Not sure what's the obsession with low infrasonics. I see noobs usually make this the most important aspect and it's just B.S
Plus you can just slap some bass shakers properly and get 5hz with earthquake if you so interested in some of the lows that are like 3% of your total experience.
@@Masterslessons there is a good amount of content down to 15hz. 10 to 14 is rarer but you can definitely feel when it there in a system that has output in that region.
You will notice in my comment that I didn’t mention anything about it being necessary but I feel like it’s worth having. Especially at this price point.
It’s a really good sub. A 15 hz tune would have been more bad ass. Of course the enclosure would be a little larger.
@@bigjack79 it may be higher from what i remember. I think they are higher to help with speed of the driver. These arent meant for infra but can handle a little.
You shouldn’t hear bass from subwoofers, Only feel it and also there’s no such thing as future proof with electronics either.
@@richardkUK8764 and you shouldn't taste food only that it makes you full. Your logic lacking
@@Masterslessons It’s Yours that’s lacking! Guess that U KNOW NOTHING AND GO BACK TO SCHOOL. U MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING!!!
@@richardkUK8764 🎓 graduated and not seeking any upgrades in my cinema unless it's ways to extend life past 140 years.
@@richardkUK8764 by all means educate us troll. Here and today. Without yelling. Without crying. Educate us
Are you saying subwoofers are only infrasonic? Reeeeeeeeeeally?
yuttttttt 🫡 🇺🇸