First excavations in 16 years take place on Culloden battlefield
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Bit by bit, Culloden Moor is giving up its secrets to archaeologists, from its ancient pre-history to its modern agricultural past.
But there’s only one day in the millennia of the moor’s existence that really interests people.
April 16 1746, scene of the last pitched battle fought on British soil.
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As a Scot I've always wondered why there is so little archaeology on Scottish battle sites. Council morons even gave permission to build over the site of much of the battle of Bannockburn, so it's mainly lost. This astonishes me. Apparently, it's extremely diffuclt for archaeologists to get permission to actually dig. Why? Killikrankie for example. We are often told that they are war graves. Yes, they are and should be respected, but you get digs all over the World where they respect that and re-intere any bodies found. I'm quite sure the original combatants would want their stories told. So much history lost through bureaucracy.
Simple all scottish councils are full of cunts, that love to get back handers from property developing wankers.
I read KILL KRANKY! 😱😆🤦🏼
@@Biiiiitnfish Yes and shockingly SNP didnt want to try stop the developing fuckers,well done Krankenstein and her party,party for Scotland? aye right
scottish soil is very acidic
@@tiffc5774 Your parents appeared to have a great sense of humour. It wasn't passed down.
My ancestors McPherson was a piper at Culloden . He escaped to Skye and then Northern Ireland he would have been in Cluny's Brigade and therefore spared battle. This was passed down in my family and I research it through Ancestors. This is no claim to fame since all the highlanders were press ganged into the battle !
As a Norwegian I am very much familiar with the weather they are experiencing.
I hope you got more brains then , why no gazebo type rainshelter for each digger ? Duh
The weather on the day of filming is just bad luck, though. Culloden is on the east coast, and in a rain shadow. I live in Inverness, just 10 miles from the battle site, and the average rainfall per month is less than you get on a rainy day in Bergen.
Fine work you people are doing.
This guy is very excited about these finds, you can tell by the shape of his fleece
Lovely discussion! More like this please! 👏👏👍👍
This is long-overdue archaeology, and I wish success to the crews who are presently doing their good work.
I find it curious that re-enactors who depict eighteenth-century Scots often have big, bushy, Victorian-period beards. Moirier's famous painting does show several-' days beard growth on the Jacobites, but one must remember that they had been on a forced march with little time to attend to grooming. At any rate, it's a little bit misleading.
That aside, archeology provides a better glimpse into the past, and I hope that there are some significant finds.
Thank you. Couldn't metal detectors find more metallic artifacts? And faster? Also, all the wounded soldiers potentially having been tended to on that side or anywhere on the site would have been government soldiers, as the order on the Cumberland side was "No quarter", so to take no prisoners, kill all on the Jacobite side...
When I went there it was raining and fog was shrouding the battle site It made for a very eerie atmosphere.
Dinnae be daft
@@shellc6743 Meaning?
@@arejaycee5484he is taking the piss on the eerie quote.
As I understood it there were areas on the periphery where spectators views the action which was apparently not uncommon with battles.
We dug-up 40 acres of land and found a musket ball and a horseshoe-nail. So not all was lost.
Culloden breaks my heart. Not sure why....
It does.
The atmosphere there is so heavy, depressing and sad, I needed a while to shake it of.
Breaks my heart too. For years I had such nightmares about running from the field and being hit in the back by a musket ball. I have let it go when I just realized I was there. Just think about it.
@@lindaross755 How silly.
@@peterchessell28 why
It’s too bad they don’t have a few ground scanners....archaeologists in England and Europe use them on battlefields, especially medieval battles, and by scanning or doing moving x-rays of the ground beneath, it limits the digging they have to do. The scanners I’ve seen used were small, and almost looked like small snowblowers we use here in the upper Midwest (USA). Just a thought!
What makes you think they don't have ground scanners? That was probably the first step. Then they do a couple of small test digs to see where to do a larger one.
I was there some 45 years ago on a day just like this. Eery place. Highlanders armed with a mishmash of weapons from lochaber axes to pikes to broadswords and a variety of muskets and fowling pieces were just a part of Charlie's army. Apparently there were more Scots on the government side than on his. Of course most of that lot were probably lowlanders. The best thing the Ainglish had going for them was facing a mob commanded by Prince Charles Stuart and a drunken Irishman named Sullivan.
As a curious American with Stewart ancestors (who came here before the American Revolution), I dug into the history and have always been puzzled by the "bonnie" moniker placed before "Prince Charles" - unless it was meant in total sarcasm. Seems to me his hubris was the ruin of many strong clans. It is good to see that Culloden is being treated with respect and care. Must be eerie indeed to walk those grounds, fog or no.
Lowlanders 🥴🤡 and that's absolute tosh too ! The Highlanders weren't so gallant..(anything for a title and a piece of land !) Look up the traitorous clansmen, loads of them. My ancestors were lowlanders (Edinburgh) and lost their lives at culloden and bannockburn and fought alongside, French, Irish and even some English who turned their back on the blue nose bastids. So get yr facts right.."most" were not lowlanders at all. It was that attitude that sold Scotland down the river then ! Disrespectful ignorance. SAOR ALBA 🏴🏴🏴
It was a UK army, not English.
Most of the Government forces were English at Culloden. Out of 16 infantry regiments only four were Scottish, three lowland and one highland and two others were Irish (protestants). The three regiments of dragoons were all English though the 11th dragoons had Scots in it including its commander.
Perhaps. But ‘English’ regiments were peopled by English, Scots, Welsh and Irish. At least 30% of the British Army’s personnel were Scottish.
My take-away is that the " protect, promote and provide experiences " explains why they dug so deeply and several other things. 1) he mentions the ground as an agricultural site had been plowed many times over, churning the soil and it's contents repeatedly in the process making layering and dating according to those layers, useless. 2) he also mentions that the " archeologists were mostly repeat volunteers with a few newbies thrown in and they were providing the experience and beginner instruction, along with the opportunity to take part in a dig while providing labor for retrieving what if anything was present. I'm guessing that the mere act of farming and cultivating the site went a long way to desecrate it long before the " archeologists " showed up. Just my opinion, don't come for me!
Very interesting video. Thank you.
Funny how very little is found on major battle sites , bones , weapons , musket balls ect , A new road was put through the site or was thought to be the battle of Alford in 1645 , an archaeologist was on site all the time the diggers were working and not one thing was found relating to the battle .
WOW !!??? NOT MUCH ARTIFACTS !!? A LOT OF NEAT CHIT CHAT AND STARING AT DUDE!!?
Did they ever get time team to do a dig???
This is a war grave for Scottish patriots so they absolutely had better respect the fallen
Nothing to do with patriotism, Gordon. All about religion.
@@ruadhagainagaidheal9398 correct...I'm sure the numerous Scottish soldiers fighting for Cumberland's army were patriots in their own minds as well.Culloden was not the last knocking of a national rising,it was the last hurrah of a culture and way of life that was only part of Scotland's greater whole.
@@ruadhagainagaidheal9398 No. Most Jacobites were Lowland Protestants.
No. Scotland completely split between largely feudal highland Roman Catholics and lowland modern humanists and Protestants. Culloden and aftermath was a struggle between old world and modern Scots who allied with English
@@cuebj pish this is 2021 not 1745
Scotland gave religion the proverbial boot long ago
This is our history not our goal
We are a proud sovereign nation of patriots
I’m a Jacobite through and through I’ve been a Protestant a catholic and now I’ve seen the light and I’m a proud atheist
Work that out
It's Drumossie Muir, not Culloden Muir. The battle was named for a nearby house. This is such a common mistake!
Why dont you just use metal detectors?, guaranteed to find stuff then.
Why are they digging so deep? I am asking because I don't know.
It happened a long time ago and the soil has built up over time. They have to get down to the soil level where the battle took place.
Why not use metal detectors in conjuction with the test pits!?
Some fine weather for digging holes.
Some people enjoying the sound of their own voices. Disappointing
Did she say fabulous weather 😆 it's dreich and rotten clabber everywhere
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How about, just what we love to watch!
Metal detectors? GPR? Pit digging on a grid seems to be giving order to battlefield chaos.
never seen such excavations done so badly!!
There's an invention called a metal detector. You will find more that way faster and less destructive to that site than digging crater holes.
They are digging 1m square evaluation pits, recording everything in them, metal, pot, glass, etc etc this allows them to then create distribution patterns of fines per m2 across the battlefield.
They are digging for information - not for finds. Finding nothing is equally as valid as finding lots of things.
Send this info to that Archeologist on how to find "Battlefield Artifacts" in a plowed up field.
The battlefield, where George Armstrong Custer and his five companies fell, was divided into grids. Volunteers, with metal detectors, marched in skirmish order while sweeping their detectors over the ground toward their front. Whenever one of the detectors got a reading the volunteer would place a pin flag to mark the spot. Following behind was another volunteer who would dig at the location of the pin flag to expose the artifact.
Before the artifact was removed surveyors would mark the exact location of the artifact within that grid on a map. Archeologists would then catalog the artifact, bag it, and number it for later study.
@@Wandering_Alabama1819 there is a fighting chance that the archeologist in charge might just possibly know what he is doing. Metal detectors only find metallic objects, it is made clear in this piece that they are looking for everything that may be present in the topsoil. If you listen, watch and think a little bit.
So ... Found S F A.
Have they used any non-invasive methods to find any areas of interest? Like, maybe ground-penetrating radar, or geophysics? Or did they just pull the old ‘bull-in-a-china shop’ thing? 🤨
*THE MOST* Scottish weather ever...
These people though they dont know it.are desendants of the very warriors they dig up.tribes of dan or judah.(Declaration of arbroath)
Undisciplined clansmen against trained, experienced, troops. There could only be one result.🤭👵🇦🇺🇺🇸
Charlie's troops were held back for far too long.
If erosion is a real thing...why is this stuff buried a foot or two underground when it was originally laying on top? The older the stuff is, the deeper it is buried.
He said It has been ploughed for many generations. Stuff gets mixed up.
Because as vegetation grows and dies over and over it slowly buries the past, also dust in the wind adds to it, and erosion doenst happen at the same rate everywhere
Do you look like Chris Evans
Did they find any bread dodys..🍞👈🧐
Outlander
So a that money paid by members, and nothing to really show about the battle itself, bit like Tony Robinsons digs, oh here is a piece of pottery
Oh so pessimistic!!! Not every dig can be like a Sutton Hoo or a Tutankhamun
@@aidy6000 Ikr, by that logic we'd never bother digging at all.
The final 'Coup De Gras.' Away win for England.
Last civil war in the uk .
Too much yapping and not much archaeology.
That day ended nothing. Scotland had to have 400 garrisons of the British Army for 10 years after that day to try to subdue the anger of the population. They were fighting to end the act of union. And we still are to this day. Do not fall for the British version of history.
They were not 'fighting to end the Act of Union'. They were fighting to restore Stuart absolutist monarchy. It was an idiotic idea.
delusional!
@@Alan_Mac the act of union was rescinded in November 1745 by Charles Stuart in Holyrood Edinburgh. Do some research before regurgitating this tired British propaganda. The only reason Charles Stuart was able to bring every religion and creed under his banner, was the promise of ending the act of union. That’s what they were fighting to maintain. The end of the union.
@@brucemacallan6831 I have often said that to be a Natter, you have to lie to yourself. However, I never expected such a big whopper as, "the act of union was rescinded in November 1745 by Charles Stuart ". It clearly wasn't as it's still the constitutional basis for our unitary nation-state.
What a silly wee man you are.
the national trust have placed the battlelines in the wrong place. the true battle lines of both sides is beyond their boundary and alot further apart🤦♂️
Well you would know.
And that comment is based on what?
Ridiculous images, the Jacobite army was a modern army of its time and used up to date weapons. This nonesense of swords against muskets needs to stop.
But... It's completely historical, because it was one of the major tactics that they used in this war. You know, the Highland Charge? Ever heard of it? Get close to the enemy, shoot one volley, but instead of staying put and keeping firing volleys you immediately throw down your muskets, draw your broadswords and charge the enemy with a blood-curling cry through the smoke as one, while he's still trying to reload and recover from the musket volley you just fired at him, in an attempt to break his ranks and put him into flight. It was quite literally swords against muskets, in a sense, yet it does not mean at all that the Jacobites did so for lack of muskets or refusal to use them.
And it worked wonderfully too, in many earlier battles of this war. Didn't work that well against well organised, regular redcoats though, such as at Culloden.
@@Stripedbottom If Charlie had let them charge earlier, instead of enduring Cumberland's artillery, the outcome may have been different.
@@alonsocushing2263 yeah but he didn't though, no point playing what if
His explanation is pathetic.
Surely, the graves of losers are much the same as any other graves.
I heard that they found ancient tampons behind the English lines.... Bunch of fannies
There was tons of Scots on the redcoat side, its not England v Scotland. Plus the jacobite lost 😂
That’s pathetic
Ya think they put portable tent/gazebos over each pit to protect the pits and diggers from the weather? yeah? but noooooooooooooooooooo... let them suffer in miserable wetness and make their jobs alot harder by sifting through mud.
O . o
and of curse add evidence to the butchery that went on after the battle at the command of the current royal family ancestors who bear the titles gained after the battle....
Did they ever get time team to do a dig???
Having been here myself it is a very bleak place, even just walking around. Couldn't imagine fighting a 18th century battle here.
visited the site in 1988, found it to be quite desolate with a truly eerie feel when you stood for a moment to consider what happened there......memorable for me
@@williamparker1085 Visited in the mid-1970s, on an overcast summer day, and it was quite eerie.
Wouldn't small portable tent like protection have made it more comfortable for the people digging - something light and easily portable that you could just place over where you're working .
Rain is often desirable on archaeological digs, because it enhances color differences of soil strata. When soil dries out, the colour differences between layers becomes harder to see/homogeneous. Waterlogged ground often preserves non metallic/organic material, so tents could degrade finds once partially uncovered.
The Scots are tough , they don't need mollycoddling .
Jeez how boring can they make this. I wasted 8 minutes of my life on this weary pair
I thought the area was a war grave ?
if you had listened to what they were saying you would have heard that this excavation was done behind were the British lines were during the battle. That means they dug next to the actual battlefield, not on it.
I see beautiful Scottish weather.
Terra linda a Escócia, manchada de sangue tantas vezes 😳
Knowing our History or roots can guide us in the right direction to reaching our Destination...
Which is...?
@@mrfester42 you know what he will say is FREEEEDOM like that wee cranky wants to fuck Scotland over
I read the title as first evacuations. I was thinking they are a few years too late for that now.
My local battlefield. 👍🏼
Same, there's one near Cromdale too but I think its not known exactly where the battle happned and It wasn't as big a deal as colluden
Can't believe it's raining at sunny Inverness!!
Two of my paternal Ancestors lie there, one surprisingly escaped.
You'd have to be careful about assuming any flint found was prehistoric in origin. This army was armed with flintlocks, so it carried a lot of flint with it.
Indeed. It's a bit hard to say for sure from that angle, but it certainly looks like it may have been shaped to be a gunflint. Also, its colour indicates it's more likely to be French flint and not English flint (which is dark grey), making it even more likely to be an artefact from the battle rather than prehistoric.
EXCAVATIONS GALORE AND AYE, THE WEATHER IS SHITE ! ! !
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This is wrong.
So amazing! The feeling of just touching/holding any of those artifacts would be a dream come true! Scottish/American here from clan Hay.
How long ago where you actually Scottish 🤔
@@sandman8993 my family left Scotland about 70-80 years ago. I’m second generation here. My aunt passed away just a couple years ago. She was the last living one that was born in Scotland from my immediate family.
Zippo lighter's always been there
As a scotsman ,iam proud of my scottish roots,isint the case if you dig in deeper. In the battlesite,if ie ye find a skeleton. ;you have to,bring in the authorities, to close the site down .could ,or would change the whole site of how the battle of culloden .started.maybe.?👍
I need a pint it's been a long day.
Just because you find a musket ball you can’t say it’s from the battle 🙄for hundreds of years before the battle deer ect were hunted and for around 150 years after on this land so you can only say “ possibly” from battle
Did they ever get time team to do a dig???
Is it necessary to disturb graves for trinkets?
Every square foot of land in Britain is a grave, if you go back far enough.
That looks like the field of the English
The excavations here were back behind where the English had formed up before advancing to where the battle was fought. From what I have read, the dead were buried close to the actual site of the battle.
@@alonsocushing2263 its not English v Scottish, since you've read about it you should be aware Scots fought for the redcoats and English fought for the jacobites, also French, germans and Irish fought
Scot v Scot
If they are looking for metal objects, why did they not use metal detectors?
Oh yes, they're Scottish.
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One of the scots lost a penny during the battle. He's asking if they've found it yet....
No. But we found a button..
He's still looking for the penny..
Will it happen again considering what is happening with the UK government and their thinking and polices 🤔
Should make a film about this
There's multiple 1st hand accounts of this battle
Loved the photo of Seòras Wallace
Geophysics?
i think we know what happened that day there was a battle. more public funds wasted on snp ego stroking. Never mind it is a war grave where is the respect.
SNP? This has bugger all to do with the snp, this is historically significant and means a hell of a lot to highlanders and bugger all to do with politics.
@@fearnpol4938 ....... Agreed, and am English. Scottish history is equally important .....
Very interesting stuff
To be a monarch, you must be crowned and recognised by the de facto legal representatives of the given territory. This wasn't a battle between two monarchs but a conclusion between a reigning/ruling king and a hopeful usurper, bonnie, legitimate prince or otherwise...
Just what we like to watch... instead of hysterics
Just cannot understand him !
You are joking course.
Turn on the captions!
Then you don’t speak English?
If you can only spend 10 minutes on it, it can't be that fascinating.
Britain didn’t exist at the time of the battle 🙄