The idea of almek being kinda racist and not considering others from outside mandalore true mandalorians is so good and fits so well, thats some clever writing.
It could also just be that they were on opposite sides of the war, seeing as jango fought in the war probably to keep the mandalorians as they were, and almec was on the side of ending the mandalorian ways.
@@BeskarDevil Yeah, I always assumed he disavowed Jango because he was adopted by and fought for Jaster Mareel who had a claim to the title of Mand'alor which might technically give Jango a claim to the throne himself.
@@elketerbentzadik What if that's what this show is leading up to? Boba taking the claim himself - or giving it to Bo-Katan, re-unifying the Mandalorians.
@@elketerbentzadik it depends on how much inspiration they take from legends, but jaster mereel is canon now (or at least that he exists and is connected to the fetts enough to be on their chain code), so it’s likely
I like to think of it as Satine wanting to politically distance herself from Jango Fett. Because how would it look for her if a person from her austebsibly Pacifist culture was the template for the clone army used by the republic.
Crossing over fandoms, I assumed that Almec’s views were more of a Muggle/“mudblood” vs. “pure blood” mentality; if you’re not born there, you’re not a true Mandalorian.
that fits Almec resents Mandalorians not Born On Mandalore Sabine her clan would've been a Common Bounty Hunters since he Homeworld is Krownwest probably her birthplace
Almec was a politician of a "neutral" Mandalore. Of course he didn't want Mandalore to be linked to Jango who worked for the Separatists and is the Clone template for every single Republic Clone Trooper.
@@mightza3781 That's how I always saw it, Almec wanted to keep Mandalore out of the war. Jango was a know Separatist asset *and* Mandalore itself was rumored to be supporting the C.I.S, that wouldn't appear very neutral.
Yesssss when I saw that translated in the chain code I popped so hard. I’m stoked to see how much of the comics about Jango’s upbringing will be used as actual canon. But til then the story as is stands in my mind too!
George said Jango Fett wasn't a Mandalorian. Which in a certain perspective that is true. He wasn't an Active Mandalorian when we first seen him on film. He was a Foundling who abandoned the Creed. Simply put Jango Fett was an Ex Mandalorian
@@LordDirus007 It was never confirmed whether or not Jango left the creed. Since he keeps the armor, we can only assume he followed the creed after the Civil War.
If you ever get resurrected please don’t try to do this with any actual episodes of the mandalorian, your liver would die off quicker than boba in ROTJ
@@basilhssarigiannidis6067 And countless other clones before that. They didn't have a rule about keeping their helmets on, and some of them wore officers uniforms or pilot uniforms where their faces weren't covered. In fact, the entire galaxy probably knows what clones look like, which is why Boba Fett never took his helmet off back in the day. Oliver's original question I think was more about seeing one in modern times, that wasn't aged twice as fast, and didn't serve in the clone army.
When Almec says that Jango was just a common bounty hunter, his overall tone is very dismissive as he quickly and abruptly shuts Obi-Wan's line of questioning down.
Bear in mind though George Lucas himself said they weren’t, it’s not like people were only listening to Almec. They did change canon but so what, if Lucas doesn’t like it he shouldn’t have sold it to Disney
What the episode did was to benefit both sides. It still confirms George Lucas's statement that Jango was not a Mandalorian by BIRTH of a pre-existing family, he was instead adopted by one. One can imagine that he respected the Mandalorians so much by his upbringing that he decided to adopt their culture and based his armor on them. So this way it satisfies both sides. Although he is not officially a pure-blooded Mandalorian he is still one unofficially and that by extension is true for Boba Fett, anything his father was is also applied to him.
This was a start of Boba Fett Reclaiming his Mandalorian Heritage why he indebted to Din and will help rescue his son Grogu and why he took it to his former employer the Empire
I think 1 reason why George created the mandalorians was to mock fanbases. Every major fanbase has a toxic group and gatekeepers and all good sides have faults and Star Wars has the worst fanbase of them all.
Jango was always Mandalorian. There was too much evidence pointing to it even after Disney deleted the EU. I always knew he was and I'm happy to finally have confirmation.
Bruh you can't blame Disney for this. Disney are the ones who brought him back to being a Mandalorian. George was the one who made him and Boba non-mandalorian
@Mitch Lang Star Wars loves to retcon old lore, whether it's to write a better story or to clear up inconsistencies. The P.T completely changed The Clone Wars from what it was in Pre-Prequels Legends.
It's this kind of thing that has had me confused why some Star Wars fans are so angry about Disney announcing Legends. Star Wars has been doing retcons for decades. Disney was just up front about it instead of it suddenly showing up in a movie.
@@ballroomscott Star Wars fans complain about everything, it's no big deal. Give them a few years and they'll forget they were ever angry with Legends.
@Mitch Lang I didn't know that even in the Old Star wars retconned a bunch of stuff... Most of the retcons I heard about prior to Disney at the time wasn't really a big deal in my opinion. The Old TCW was loved mainly because of certain characters were potrayed and new characters being introduced. I guess people and me in some ways didn't like how The New TCW handled some of the characters, Some don't even exist and how characters got their original backstory removed making them kind of unlikable then their original The new TCW was a show I worshipped all my life like 90 percent but recently finding out that TCW is a major retconned that added alot of things I hated in the cannon made me not like the show as I used too. But at same time I love the show and hate it now
That still makes sense, especially for Boba. Boba's not from Mandalorian space. He's a clone from Kamino. His father died when he was 8 or so, and he's wandered the galaxy ever since.
Plus Boba said he gives his allegiance to no one. His dad was a foundling, but Boba wasn’t raised a foundling. The armor is his birthright, but I doubt he considers himself Mandalorian.
@@maxorr2969 Yeah, that's the issue I have with all these people declaring Boba to be Mandalorian again. He sort of is, but as Cara and Din say in Chapter 8, Mandalorian isn't a race, but a creed. And I don't think we've seen any evidence that, after Jango died at least, Boba was raised under or followed any Mandalorian creeds.
It's like how there are a lot of idiots in the United States who don't think of people of non-European heritage as real "Americans" even if they are citizens, or even born in the U.S.
This whole Fett identity crisis thing is really a shame as if I remember correctly, this was what caused Karen Traviss to stop writing the Commando series.
@@Ghost-oq4qj Karen Traviss was writing the Republic Commando novels at the time and with it, she started developing a lot of aspects about the Mandalorian culture including the fact that the Commandos were being trained directly by Mandalorians that Jango knew/respected like Kal Skirata (don't know if I spelt that right) and not just regular bounty hunters, a few words in Mando'a, etc. Then, the Mandalore arc started on The Clone Wars and it sort of threw out a lot of the things she had written along with saying Jango and Boba aren't Mandalorians. There is, of course, more to the story but that's the gist of it. After that, she didn't want to write Star Wars titles anymore, including the Commando series. It's really a shame for 2 reasons: 1. The Commando series was awesome. 2. A lot of things she wrote got integrated back into the lore anyway.
@@eds1942 so was I to be honest, definitely not as upset as her but I was disappointed. Her novels were what made me question the ethics of the GAR to begin with. I mean sure they look like they're in their 20-30's but they're 10 years old! They're basically child soldiers. Plus it reminded me too much of the whole Lowbacca fiasco where Lucas was like, "I don't like the concept of Wookie Jedi. No more Wookie Jedi after him." then the Clone Wars introduces a Wookie Jedi youngling. I get it, it's his right, this is his universe after all but it just felt so... petty on his part.
@@EonStormcrow I liked her books. With Lucas,.. Part of me knows that understands that the EU was developing faster than he could oversee. Part of me understands that it’s his universe and change whatever he wants. Part of me understands that some of his choices were goofs on his part. And part of me thinks that he made changes because he knew it would spawn new stories trying to retcon it.
Thank you Alex! After you mentioned the video coming during the live stream Friday, I couldn’t wait to watch. And now when I tell others about the Fetts, I can give them my usual spiel AND show them your video. Great job as usual 😄👍
The explanation I always went with is that Almec publicly supported Satine's pacifist New Mandalorians, so he denounced Jango Fett because that was the party line. As he said of the Death Watch saboteur in the same episode, "No Mandalorian would engage in such violence, not anymore." Boba also says that Jango fought in the Mandalorian Civil War, and I think we can assume that he fought against Satine's faction.
Almec comes to me as someone who would look at the foundlings as lesser. Even more, if they were performing jobs as bounty hunters. So it makes perfect sense and does ring to the encounter between Bo Katan and Djin. She saw him as a fanatic because of his creed. She saw herself as more "civilized" in a manner.
You’re forgetting that in the Jango Fett video game (and ALL the old canon from that era) that they always established that Jango Fett was raised by a Mandalorian (I forget his name). That was always a part of Jango’s backstory in any source material. They just didn’t have the word “foundling” back then.
One important point is that Almec doesn't know how Jango got the armor which means he was clueless about Jango's origin. Now combine that with his belief that the warriors all died out on Concordia. His first thought is to immediately dismiss the idea Jango was a Mandalorian, otherwise he's wrong(which he was) and there were still warriors out and about.
@@imsentinelprime9279 I'd like to see Boba teach Din about the True Mandalorians that Jango was a part of because their code of honor I believe would fit Din well.
Basically how some people in america will say other americans aren't "true americans" because they were brought over as a child. Guess even some Mandalorians can have prejudice against others coming into their culture. But yeah, good thing that isn't really true or the Fett clan wouldn't be canon which now I am glad they are.
@@Needler13 I'd say it's closer to the American Islands. Saying Jango isn't a Mandalorian because he was born on Concord Dawn is like saying someone isn't an American because they were born on Puerto Rico.
@@CyberController- yes, exactly like that. Much better analogy. Also how some people don't consider the DACA "kids", who are really adults now, not americans because they're not "citizens". Even though they lived their whole life in america, their culture is american and america put resources into training them. Just to kick them out because you have issues in what a "true" american is. Same shit with Jango. Not born a mando but was raised as one, birthed as one, was trained as one and was even resources, like his armor, just like a true Mandalorians. All in all he is mando but other mando's are so "pure" with their thought in what a mando is.
I really like your explanation and I think it goes perfectly with another part of The Mandalorian. Bo-Katan says Din is “a child of The Watch”. Some people think that’s Death Watch, but I think it’s a sub-set of Death Watch...it’s foundlings. As such, the Children of the Watch could have had instructions to never remove their helmets because, in a very non-inclusive way, many Mandalorians may not have accepted them as well, but they were needed, The Children of the Watch’s dedication to foundlings, which they make a BIG deal about, could very well be because all the Children of the Watch are foundlings. Almec’s feelings may well have been common in some older sects of Mandalorians, thus segregating “The Children of the Watch”
Exactly i always thought in a way it was more of a religion kinda thing which can also explain why to some someone like boba isnt to some and to others he is.
Perfectly put about what it takes to be Mandalorian, Alex. You’re such a positive voice in the fandom and it’s great. I’ve felt similar about the Fett situation for awhile now and to essentially have Open Seasons back in the canon is great. I love what their doing with the general theme of the show and weaving it in with the different characters who have appeared so far in the armor.
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Oh so that explains why the Fetts debated being Mandalorians confusion started from the Empire Strikes Back Artbook, I always thought those Legends Boba Fett Comics Books got the fan base confused about the Fetts being Mandalorians.
What happened to Boba in return of the jedi was just a minor setback,even Boba makes mistakes and even though he fell into the sarlacc pit he was able to get out and continue being epic.
attack of the clones visual dictionary printed in 2002 "after the murder of his parents, Jango Fett was adopted and raised by the legendary Mandalorian warrior army."
Considering the in-universe source, Olmec, claiming Jango Fett wasn't a Mandalorian was also himself a traitorous turn-coat liar I've never put much stock in it. As for George Lucas, well he regularly changed his mind about things and did contradict himself several times. In the end it's whatever serves the story best that's what they go with...usually. Fortunately Dave Filoni really gets that.
Have a look at the video "DAVE FILONI: Is Jango Fett A Mandalorian?" at the 1:15 mark. This proves that they didn't necessarily backpedal on anything. This is why I like ambiguity in Star Wars. The writers don't need to have concrete answers to anything and things can be fleshed out decades down the line.
@@MNGN101 It is decades later. Until now the best we’ve had was the obviously suspect reply from Almec. I’m all for ambiguity in regards of his character beyond being a “simple - practical man” or allegiances beyond money and being practically a loner, but it’s high past time that something as simple as the question of “is Boba a Mandalorian or not” that’s been around practically since he first appeared back in what? 1979? was clearly and definitively answered. And now we have that. Boba Fett is a Mandalorian by extension of his “father” Jango being a Mandalorian fondling. The finer points to that are irrelevant.
@@eds1942 Mandalorian identity isn't inherent for foundlings. There's a reason Boba blatantly dodges the question in this episode. The question had been answered and it is still the same answer; it's just been clarified. Boba Fett is neither ethnically nor culturally Mandalorian. His choice of armour was inspired by his father (who was adopted into the culture), but Boba personally does not associate with the culture, as far as we know.
Another explanation for Almec is simply that he's in denial. They make a point that all the warriors had been exiled and died off. So like Obi-Wan being in denial about Maul returning because he believed he had killed him, Almec didn't believe a true Mandalorian Warrior could still exist.
After The Mandalorian Season 2 Episode 6 FansStarWars: We saw you get eaten by the Sarlacc Boba Fett: Yes it's true but after a long agony the Sarlacc is dead
Almec dismissing Jango is an attempt to deny the legitimacy of the True Mandalorians. If he acknowledged that he was Mandalorian, then the people would see a third choice in the civil conflict, and divide them even further.
This episode raised a new question. Despite the fact that Boba's armor looks significantly different from Jango's, he still refers to it as "my father's armor." This implies that Jango had at least 2 suits of armor. Perhaps this armor originally belonged to Jaster, and Jango kept it as a family heirloom?
Appreciate the run down man! I’m in the same emotional boat as you lol. We also all know that Lucas’ biggest shortcoming is fully thinking out characters and plot lines.
His second is that he thinks that Star Wars movies are video games that can get patched whenever he thinks of a new idea or a new bit of cool movie technology comes out.
I kind of like the idea that information is wrong in the universe, because information in real life is wrong and you get conflicting stories. You also get people trying to hide the true past of other people. It makes it seem like a very vindictive and real world, no one knows all of real history and no one knows everyone else's past.
I think Jango definitely considered himself a Mando at least up until the end of the Mandalorian Civil Wars. Once he became a bounty hunter he probably stopped due to disillusionment & loss of Mandalore. Boba on the other hand probably wasn't brought up to identify as Mando due to Jango giving up on taking Mandalore, I believe his side lost to Satine & Almec's faction. This is why in a later episode Boba says "I never said I was (a Mandalorian)".
Almec was a death watch sympathizer ND Jango hated and fought the death watch. Death Watch thinks they are the only true mandalorians. That is why Almec said what he said. Not sure why people don't get that.
I did a fully voice acted (with SFX) adaptation of Jango Fett Open Seasons comic, thought some of you might appreciate it (can be found on my channel). This is the comic that the chain code references. This also answers the following question: is Boba Fett a Mandalorian? Many believed that were not the case after the exposition we were given in The Clone Wars but it would make little sense for the creatives involved to make such iconic characters that are the SYMBOL of Mandalorian culture, non-Mandalorian (plus, the said exposition did not make it certain). To me, it was always obvious that it was only a matter of time for them to confirm that both Jango and Boba were Mandalorian. The Mandalorian Disney+ series seemed like a perfect opportunity to do so.
I was a rabid star wars fan in the days when people were still debating wether Boba Fett was male or female or human or an alien or a robot or an Anakin Skywalker clone or Han Solo's long lost brother. Lol. Personally, I always assumed a male, human, Mandalorian...haha.
Man ice watch that episode like 10 times now jango and boba were my favorite characters in the movies growing up and I was like a kid again seeing boba kick ass and get to be a mando again
Wasn't Almec also giving the official New Mandalorian line of Satine's government? They had rejected the warrior ways, condemned all forms of violence and disavowed anyone who kept to it, even claiming that all of their remaining warriors had died in exile on Concordia. Of course they wouldn't accept Jango as legitimate, especially since he was on the losing side of the Civil War.
I'm one of the oddballs who _don't_ like Filoni very much (his Star Wars is "ok" and can be great sometimes, but it's overall "ok", in my book). Most of the episodes in Mando have been written by Favreau and, as far as I know, this is why we're getting such good Star Wars!
Spoilers- In the new episode of the Mandalorian, Boba says the armor he wears was his father's, but didn't boba blow up Jango's helmet in the Mandalorian?
He did, but that doesn’t mean Boba couldn’t have found another Mando helmet somewhere. Boba’s entire getup is just barely different than Jango’s (longer shoulder armor, different boots, thigh armor), so he probably just built up his own load out over time.
As Dave Filoni said it was George idea he said it would impactful if mace saw it blown And well would have better if we got that cad bane and boba story arc form clone wars
I think it works brilliantly in the universe, while simultaneously satisfying millions of Mando fans. And Bo Katan already foreshadowed the disrespect native Mandos have for "foundlings" and adopted Mandos.
I always thought Almec didn't recognised the Fetts as Mandalorian because they up held the warrior ways as bounty hunters instead of becoming pacifist like the New Mandalorians.
I have a question about Mandolorian jet packs. Why do some of them have rockets/missiles on them and others don't? And with those that do, how do they get new ones to replace those that have been fired off Cobb Vanth fired his off on the bandits when he cleaned up the town AND when he fired on at the krayt dragon but when Boba Fett got his armor back, he had a missile to fire at the drop ships Will he get a new missile by the next episode?
I really want Boba and Rex to meet. Boba in the clone wars was explored as a character through how he related or did not relate to the clones. And if Boba is Mando, would he consider Rex Mando? I’d assume not since he wasn’t raised in anyway to be Mando. But it could get real Hegelian with the character dynamics.
The way you reconciled the Fett-being-Mandalorian thing was the almost same way I did: Almec looked down his nose on Jango because they were from different factions of Mandalorian society; Almec was ostensibly one of the pacifist New Mandalorians, and Jango lead the mercenary but still honorable True Mandalorians. A faction that's been crushed and disbanded by Death Watch, and Clan Fett was thought to be extinct. Maybe Jango's armor resembling the type the Death Watch wore was also a factor.
Hey Alex, if you're looking for a Star Wars audio drama you should check out Mud 79. It's set in the years after the Clone Wars and focuses on the Mud Troopers of Platoon 79.
From the certain point of Jango Fett and Boba Fett aren't Mandalorian they're just human. Foundlings are brought into the culture they aren't Mandalorian they need to be raised into it. Almec sees it as family tree like royalty almost.
@@7TheWhiteWolf I’m rationalizing it as different clans perceptions of the creed, and what it means to be part of Mandalorian society. The theme of Mandalorian politics from Clone Wars has carried over, and rightfully so. We already saw a bit of that in Bo Katan’s comments about the Deathwatch’s almost religious fervor regarding the creed. So I can definitely see some considering foundlings as still being outsiders and not “true” Mandalorian’s, while others do. From Din’s point of view, foundlings are true Mandalorians; as that’s how he sees himself. He would be a hypocrite if he didn’t.
Chapter 14 was a start of Boba Fett Reclaiming his Mandalorian Heritage why he indebted to Din and will help rescue his son Grogu and why he took it to his former employer the Empire
@@ninboy01 The only fake Mandalorians are Almec and his New Mandalorians. The man was shown in the show to be a liar, corrupt and dishonest. Since Jango fighting for the Old Mandalorians against the death watch was made canon again, Almec had every reason to disavow him after the Civil War was over. Jango has indeed had his Mandalorian status reinstated. Almec was just a liar.
@@ninboy01 if you ask me, this was simply something John Faverau didn't like about Lucas's constant changes and since he knew Lucas couldn't do anything more about it since he sold the IP off. He reversed George's 2010 change.
I think Almec meant Jango not being a Mandalorian in the same way countries denounce terrorists from their country. With regards to the armour, I think Jango may have owned the armour and had it ready for when Boba grew up, that way the armour isn't literally the same but it did belong to Jango
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@dragon1193 linktoad But with that logic then Jango who was not born on Mandalore was mandalorian by creed only. So Boba who is neither by birth (he wasnt born on Mandalore) nor by creed is not a mandalorian. He is a clone of a mandalorian
Jango is a foundling he IS mandalorian but Boba in the other hand is a clone and therefore not recognized as a mandalorian (even though I think he should be) but it’s ok because he never claims to be mandalorian but he does follow most ways of the mandalore
He wears Mandalorian armor. Caries there sigils & knows the Mandalorian alphabet. Probably speaks it too. If he's not Mandalorian then he's about the closest thing to being 1 as possible.
Boba Fett's chain code is written in Mando'a, and when translated it says "Foundling took into the year the concord dawn mentor Jaster father Fett Boba Fett". I guess Jaster Mereel is canon now.
Jango was trained by Jaster, who’s death jango watched if you read the comic from Star Wars Bounty Hunter. Which already confirmed Jango was a mandolorian.
Hope we see some more stuff with jango and his time fighting in the civil war. They could do a game with Morrison voicing him, kind of like a modern star wars bounty Hunter and we could see Jaster (Mareel hopefully as the chain code only said Jaster) in canon form
When we think about it now, it was obvious Jango was a Mandaloria. The only thing Jango asked from the cloners was a non modified clone he could raise as his son... You don't really imagine a bounty hunter would ask to be given a kid he would have to take with him everywhere in his dangerous life... unless he is from a culture where it's a duty for any man to take a kid a raise him to be a warrior.... So Jango dressed like a Mandalorian, and acted like a Mandalorian. However, Boba doesn't seem to identify as a Mandalorian.... but that may be something that will be explored in the future, if he doesn't die (and there is a chance he will, which would allow Din Djarin to inherit the Slave One)... will he take a foundling to perpetuate the Fett clan? Will he involve himself in the re-taking of Mandalore?
I think the best way to recouncile everything about this is that Jango fought in the civil war; and the old legend stuff put his mentor up against the Death Watch; so we can think Jango was against the Death Watch, leading to Almec probably looking down on an enemy, not recognising him as a Mandalorian, and not even knowing from where is armor came from, since he didn't really have intel on these enemies; not that specific at least. He probably didn't knew that one of the Mandalorian of an enemy clan took under his wing Jango before dying, and thus granting him both the armor, and the honorary Mandalorian badge that comes with it... But Jango still is, because his mentor is. That way you both have a canon Mandalorian Jango AND a canon Almec not understanding the situation and not recognising Jango as Mandalorian.
Since apparently Jaster Mareel is canon again then Almec's denial of Jango being a Mandalorian actually being a lie is further supported since Jaster was the last known person to have the Title Mandalore, Ruler of the Mandalorians and the direct opposition to the form of governmental system Almec was currently apart of.
What’s the exact comic he’s getting this comic images from at 2:45? I know it has something to do with Knights of the Old Republic but I want to read it myself
The idea of almek being kinda racist and not considering others from outside mandalore true mandalorians is so good and fits so well, thats some clever writing.
It could also just be that they were on opposite sides of the war, seeing as jango fought in the war probably to keep the mandalorians as they were, and almec was on the side of ending the mandalorian ways.
@@BeskarDevil Yeah, I always assumed he disavowed Jango because he was adopted by and fought for Jaster Mareel who had a claim to the title of Mand'alor which might technically give Jango a claim to the throne himself.
@@elketerbentzadik What if that's what this show is leading up to? Boba taking the claim himself - or giving it to Bo-Katan, re-unifying the Mandalorians.
@@elketerbentzadik it depends on how much inspiration they take from legends, but jaster mereel is canon now (or at least that he exists and is connected to the fetts enough to be on their chain code), so it’s likely
I like to think of it as Satine wanting to politically distance herself from Jango Fett. Because how would it look for her if a person from her austebsibly Pacifist culture was the template for the clone army used by the republic.
Crossing over fandoms, I assumed that Almec’s views were more of a Muggle/“mudblood” vs. “pure blood” mentality; if you’re not born there, you’re not a true Mandalorian.
that fits Almec resents Mandalorians not Born On Mandalore Sabine her clan would've been a Common Bounty Hunters since he Homeworld is Krownwest probably her birthplace
I always took it as a New Mandalorian vs True Mandalorian vs Deathwatch sorta thing.
Almec was a politician of a "neutral" Mandalore. Of course he didn't want Mandalore to be linked to Jango who worked for the Separatists and is the Clone template for every single Republic Clone Trooper.
Yeah, racism
@@mightza3781 That's how I always saw it, Almec wanted to keep Mandalore out of the war. Jango was a know Separatist asset *and* Mandalore itself was rumored to be supporting the C.I.S, that wouldn't appear very neutral.
Also Jaster Mereel is canon again, so I’m basically putting that entire comic into my head canon Since in now fits perfectly.
Remember reading this comic in the bounty hunter game about jango.
I’m surprised more people aren’t talking about Jaster being back.
Yesssss when I saw that translated in the chain code I popped so hard. I’m stoked to see how much of the comics about Jango’s upbringing will be used as actual canon. But til then the story as is stands in my mind too!
They should make a new bounty hunter game where you play as Jango with Jaster Mereel during the Mandalorian civil war
I hope so. We only got "Jaste" there as reference. His surname can still be different, or his race, or the history so far, etc.
George: The Fetts were never Mandalorians
Cassus: *Confused screaming*
I've never been able to beat him on Taris😂
@Darth Revan cringe
George said Jango Fett wasn't a Mandalorian.
Which in a certain perspective that is true.
He wasn't an Active Mandalorian when we first seen him on film.
He was a Foundling who abandoned the Creed.
Simply put
Jango Fett was an Ex Mandalorian
@@LordDirus007 It was never confirmed whether or not Jango left the creed. Since he keeps the armor, we can only assume he followed the creed after the Civil War.
Jaster Mareel is even canon now since he was mentioned as mentor in Boba Fett's chain code.
About damn time to I think it was the worst decision ever made by Lucas to not have them canon manalorians
I hope so. We only got "Jaste" there as reference. His surname can still be different, or his race, or the history so far, etc.
I took a shot of rum every time the word "Mandalorian" was said and I died.
So it's your force ghost writing this?
@@leonrambach1216 yeah, now he’s a ghost writer.
No one cares
@@iGhostr Get off with your negativy man.
If you ever get resurrected please don’t try to do this with any actual episodes of the mandalorian, your liver would die off quicker than boba in ROTJ
What would Ahsoka's reaction be to meeting Boba Fett? It's like seeing the face of a clone again.
Ahsoka has already seen a clone .Actually 3 of them Rex ,woolf and Gregor in star wars rebels
Has she ever met Boba?
@@eds1942 Yes, during the Clone Wars Season 2 finale arc.
@@jimbobaggins27 Thanks. I honestly couldn’t remember and to be honest, I probably missed half of the episodes.
@@basilhssarigiannidis6067 And countless other clones before that. They didn't have a rule about keeping their helmets on, and some of them wore officers uniforms or pilot uniforms where their faces weren't covered. In fact, the entire galaxy probably knows what clones look like, which is why Boba Fett never took his helmet off back in the day. Oliver's original question I think was more about seeing one in modern times, that wasn't aged twice as fast, and didn't serve in the clone army.
When Almec says that Jango was just a common bounty hunter, his overall tone is very dismissive as he quickly and abruptly shuts Obi-Wan's line of questioning down.
Jango fought against olmec in the mando civil war thats why olmec trashed him.
Bear in mind though George Lucas himself said they weren’t, it’s not like people were only listening to Almec. They did change canon but so what, if Lucas doesn’t like it he shouldn’t have sold it to Disney
@@Tom-bn6pr I doubt that Lucas wouldn't agree with what Filoni and Favreau did with these Mandalorians.
I thought Jango fought the death watch?
@@Abhishek-sr2pu he did
The mandalorian civil war Boba talked about was when jango fought with the true mandalorians against the death watch
“I’m just a simple man”
Glad this got cleaned up
Foundling: Wait....Jango is Mandalorian?
Boba: Always has been...
read in Temeura Morrisons Voice
a Foundling surprisingly.
Every real Star Wars fan - always has been
What the episode did was to benefit both sides. It still confirms George Lucas's statement that Jango was not a Mandalorian by BIRTH of a pre-existing family, he was instead adopted by one. One can imagine that he respected the Mandalorians so much by his upbringing that he decided to adopt their culture and based his armor on them. So this way it satisfies both sides. Although he is not officially a pure-blooded Mandalorian he is still one unofficially and that by extension is true for Boba Fett, anything his father was is also applied to him.
@@jasonle9596 Let us all remember the good old Cassus Fett, warrior who nuked first and asked questions later ;-)
Din accepts that Boba Fett is Mandalorian. He accepted that faster than he accepted Bo Katan Kryse was Mandalorian.
Because she was the first Mandalorian that didn’t follow the same creed as him he met, obviously he would be skeptical
I mean I would argue she's more of a true Mandalorian than all of them. She was born on Mandalore while they are foundlings/clones
Now ill have to explain to my friend that he actually is mandalorian again, after a year of telling him he isnt.
Same to my dad months ago. Retcons suck you know.
Well he isn’t but now his dad is I guess
Well Boba isn't technically a Mandalorian, Jango was.
This was a start of Boba Fett Reclaiming his Mandalorian Heritage why he indebted to Din and will help rescue his son Grogu and why he took it to his former employer the Empire
@@jamiewalsh3349 George Lucas Retcons suck you mean ;)
Mandalorians: the only group that gatekeeps as much as star wars fans
This is a big W
Hue
Depressing, but true.
This is the way
I think 1 reason why George created the mandalorians was to mock fanbases. Every major fanbase has a toxic group and gatekeepers and all good sides have faults and Star Wars has the worst fanbase of them all.
Jango was always Mandalorian. There was too much evidence pointing to it even after Disney deleted the EU. I always knew he was and I'm happy to finally have confirmation.
Bruh you can't blame Disney for this. Disney are the ones who brought him back to being a Mandalorian. George was the one who made him and Boba non-mandalorian
I bet everyone threw their Tales of the Bounty Hunters books into the fire when Episode II came out and yelling "Everything I knew was a lie!!!".
@Mitch Lang Star Wars loves to retcon old lore, whether it's to write a better story or to clear up inconsistencies. The P.T completely changed The Clone Wars from what it was in Pre-Prequels Legends.
That’s how I was when Dengar showed up in Clone Wars.
It's this kind of thing that has had me confused why some Star Wars fans are so angry about Disney announcing Legends. Star Wars has been doing retcons for decades. Disney was just up front about it instead of it suddenly showing up in a movie.
@@ballroomscott Star Wars fans complain about everything, it's no big deal. Give them a few years and they'll forget they were ever angry with Legends.
@Mitch Lang I didn't know that even in the Old Star wars retconned a bunch of stuff... Most of the retcons I heard about prior to Disney at the time wasn't really a big deal in my opinion. The Old TCW was loved mainly because of certain characters were potrayed and new characters being introduced. I guess people and me in some ways didn't like how The New TCW handled some of the characters, Some don't even exist and how characters got their original backstory removed making them kind of unlikable then their original
The new TCW was a show I worshipped all my life like 90 percent but recently finding out that TCW is a major retconned that added alot of things I hated in the cannon made me not like the show as I used too. But at same time I love the show and hate it now
I guess Bossk and Dengar were just insulting Fett when they called him a "Mandalorian Pretender" in from a certain point of view.
That still makes sense, especially for Boba. Boba's not from Mandalorian space. He's a clone from Kamino. His father died when he was 8 or so, and he's wandered the galaxy ever since.
Lizard Man and Toilet Paper Head? Yeah, they're trustworthy sources.
Plus Boba said he gives his allegiance to no one. His dad was a foundling, but Boba wasn’t raised a foundling. The armor is his birthright, but I doubt he considers himself Mandalorian.
@@maxorr2969 Yeah, that's the issue I have with all these people declaring Boba to be Mandalorian again. He sort of is, but as Cara and Din say in Chapter 8, Mandalorian isn't a race, but a creed. And I don't think we've seen any evidence that, after Jango died at least, Boba was raised under or followed any Mandalorian creeds.
It's like how there are a lot of idiots in the United States who don't think of people of non-European heritage as real "Americans" even if they are citizens, or even born in the U.S.
I literally just searched this up on RUclips now and this Just got posted
There's no such thing as luck. ;)
same
If you like pina colada
Same here! :)
And thus debate is put to rest
This whole Fett identity crisis thing is really a shame as if I remember correctly, this was what caused Karen Traviss to stop writing the Commando series.
Wdym?
@@Ghost-oq4qj Karen Traviss was writing the Republic Commando novels at the time and with it, she started developing a lot of aspects about the Mandalorian culture including the fact that the Commandos were being trained directly by Mandalorians that Jango knew/respected like Kal Skirata (don't know if I spelt that right) and not just regular bounty hunters, a few words in Mando'a, etc. Then, the Mandalore arc started on The Clone Wars and it sort of threw out a lot of the things she had written along with saying Jango and Boba aren't Mandalorians. There is, of course, more to the story but that's the gist of it. After that, she didn't want to write Star Wars titles anymore, including the Commando series. It's really a shame for 2 reasons:
1. The Commando series was awesome.
2. A lot of things she wrote got integrated back into the lore anyway.
@@EonStormcrow I remember her being pretty upset about it.
@@eds1942 so was I to be honest, definitely not as upset as her but I was disappointed. Her novels were what made me question the ethics of the GAR to begin with. I mean sure they look like they're in their 20-30's but they're 10 years old! They're basically child soldiers. Plus it reminded me too much of the whole Lowbacca fiasco where Lucas was like, "I don't like the concept of Wookie Jedi. No more Wookie Jedi after him." then the Clone Wars introduces a Wookie Jedi youngling. I get it, it's his right, this is his universe after all but it just felt so... petty on his part.
@@EonStormcrow I liked her books.
With Lucas,..
Part of me knows that understands that the EU was developing faster than he could oversee.
Part of me understands that it’s his universe and change whatever he wants.
Part of me understands that some of his choices were goofs on his part.
And part of me thinks that he made changes because he knew it would spawn new stories trying to retcon it.
I always saw it as the prime minister looking down on Jango because he was raised by death watch, not because he wasn’t a mandalorian
Yeah, exactly. Almec was just some scheming douchebag trying to deflect from his own ambitions.
Jango fought Deathwatch.
Jaster Mareel is among the names listed in the chain code for the armor.
Thank you Alex! After you mentioned the video coming during the live stream Friday, I couldn’t wait to watch. And now when I tell others about the Fetts, I can give them my usual spiel AND show them your video. Great job as usual 😄👍
The explanation I always went with is that Almec publicly supported Satine's pacifist New Mandalorians, so he denounced Jango Fett because that was the party line. As he said of the Death Watch saboteur in the same episode, "No Mandalorian would engage in such violence, not anymore."
Boba also says that Jango fought in the Mandalorian Civil War, and I think we can assume that he fought against Satine's faction.
Almec comes to me as someone who would look at the foundlings as lesser. Even more, if they were performing jobs as bounty hunters. So it makes perfect sense and does ring to the encounter between Bo Katan and Djin. She saw him as a fanatic because of his creed. She saw herself as more "civilized" in a manner.
“It’s what you do with what you have that makes you who you are.” Nice.
You’re forgetting that in the Jango Fett video game (and ALL the old canon from that era) that they always established that Jango Fett was raised by a Mandalorian (I forget his name). That was always a part of Jango’s backstory in any source material. They just didn’t have the word “foundling” back then.
This episode gave me everything I’ve wanted to see when it comes to Boba Fett!
One important point is that Almec doesn't know how Jango got the armor which means he was clueless about Jango's origin. Now combine that with his belief that the warriors all died out on Concordia. His first thought is to immediately dismiss the idea Jango was a Mandalorian, otherwise he's wrong(which he was) and there were still warriors out and about.
SO SO SO GLAD THIS IS ALL CLEARED UP!!
I don’t care what The Mandalorian does with Boba Fett, Jango will FOREVER & ALWAYS be muh king!
Mando can relate so hard to
“ I’m just a simple man making his way threw the galaxy”
I’m happy they’re Mandalorians again. I have the old Jango Fett comics and they were good.
I really hope we get to see mandalore in live action.
That planet is cursed.
I believe that's what this season is building up to take place in the third, the retaking of Mandalore.
@@dallasclark5533 maybe mando becomes the next ruler of mandalore and it becomes his duty to bring mandalorians back to there former glory
@@imsentinelprime9279 I'd like to see Boba teach Din about the True Mandalorians that Jango was a part of because their code of honor I believe would fit Din well.
I told so many people on how Jango is Mandalorian since he was born on Concord Dawn which a planet in Mandalorian Space
Basically how some people in america will say other americans aren't "true americans" because they were brought over as a child. Guess even some Mandalorians can have prejudice against others coming into their culture.
But yeah, good thing that isn't really true or the Fett clan wouldn't be canon which now I am glad they are.
@@Needler13 I'd say it's closer to the American Islands. Saying Jango isn't a Mandalorian because he was born on Concord Dawn is like saying someone isn't an American because they were born on Puerto Rico.
@@CyberController- And to be clear for anyone unaware, Puerto Rico is actually part of the USA, and everyone born there is a US citizen.
@@CyberController- yes, exactly like that. Much better analogy. Also how some people don't consider the DACA "kids", who are really adults now, not americans because they're not "citizens". Even though they lived their whole life in america, their culture is american and america put resources into training them. Just to kick them out because you have issues in what a "true" american is.
Same shit with Jango. Not born a mando but was raised as one, birthed as one, was trained as one and was even resources, like his armor, just like a true Mandalorians. All in all he is mando but other mando's are so "pure" with their thought in what a mando is.
So happy I don’t have to listen to people scream “Almec said this” over and over anymore.
I think it fits the Mando way, they even fight over who is actually a Mandalorian and who isn't
I really like your explanation and I think it goes perfectly with another part of The Mandalorian. Bo-Katan says Din is “a child of The Watch”. Some people think that’s Death Watch, but I think it’s a sub-set of Death Watch...it’s foundlings. As such, the Children of the Watch could have had instructions to never remove their helmets because, in a very non-inclusive way, many Mandalorians may not have accepted them as well, but they were needed, The Children of the Watch’s dedication to foundlings, which they make a BIG deal about, could very well be because all the Children of the Watch are foundlings. Almec’s feelings may well have been common in some older sects of Mandalorians, thus segregating “The Children of the Watch”
Before we can say who is a mandalorian, we need to know what it means to be a mandalorian.
Exactly i always thought in a way it was more of a religion kinda thing which can also explain why to some someone like boba isnt to some and to others he is.
Nice job reconciling the twists and turns of the Fett's history. For what it's worth, the Fett's have always been Mandalorians to me.
I think their in fighting is what has kept them from being such a prominent force in the Galaxy. Bo Katan realizes this at least.
Perfectly put about what it takes to be Mandalorian, Alex. You’re such a positive voice in the fandom and it’s great. I’ve felt similar about the Fett situation for awhile now and to essentially have Open Seasons back in the canon is great. I love what their doing with the general theme of the show and weaving it in with the different characters who have appeared so far in the armor.
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Oh so that explains why the Fetts debated being Mandalorians confusion started from the Empire Strikes Back Artbook, I always thought those Legends Boba Fett Comics Books got the fan base confused about the Fetts being Mandalorians.
I see Almec’s statement as him trying to cover their ass and push the blame somewhere else.
What happened to Boba in return of the jedi was just a minor setback,even Boba makes mistakes and even though he fell into the sarlacc pit he was able to get out and continue being epic.
attack of the clones visual dictionary printed in 2002 "after the murder of his parents, Jango Fett was adopted and raised by the legendary Mandalorian warrior army."
Tales of the bounty hunters was an awesome read for me as a kid. Really cool to see it brought up :)
Awesome as always! Star Wars Comics channel nails this down with a translation of the chain code. Chest that out as well.
Jango was a foundling so he's 100% mandalorian, meaning boba and the entire clone army come from mandalorian stock.
So in your opinion, can kotor, the republic commando books, clone wars, open season, bounty hunter, rebels and mando all fit together?
Considering the in-universe source, Olmec, claiming Jango Fett wasn't a Mandalorian was also himself a traitorous turn-coat liar I've never put much stock in it. As for George Lucas, well he regularly changed his mind about things and did contradict himself several times. In the end it's whatever serves the story best that's what they go with...usually. Fortunately Dave Filoni really gets that.
Part of me thought that Lucas’ goofs and changes were done because he knew that they would lead to more stories to attempting to retcon the issues.
Have a look at the video "DAVE FILONI: Is Jango Fett A Mandalorian?" at the 1:15 mark. This proves that they didn't necessarily backpedal on anything.
This is why I like ambiguity in Star Wars. The writers don't need to have concrete answers to anything and things can be fleshed out decades down the line.
@@MNGN101 It is decades later. Until now the best we’ve had was the obviously suspect reply from Almec. I’m all for ambiguity in regards of his character beyond being a “simple - practical man” or allegiances beyond money and being practically a loner, but it’s high past time that something as simple as the question of “is Boba a Mandalorian or not” that’s been around practically since he first appeared back in what? 1979? was clearly and definitively answered. And now we have that.
Boba Fett is a Mandalorian by extension of his “father” Jango being a Mandalorian fondling. The finer points to that are irrelevant.
@@eds1942 Mandalorian identity isn't inherent for foundlings. There's a reason Boba blatantly dodges the question in this episode.
The question had been answered and it is still the same answer; it's just been clarified. Boba Fett is neither ethnically nor culturally Mandalorian. His choice of armour was inspired by his father (who was adopted into the culture), but Boba personally does not associate with the culture, as far as we know.
@@MNGN101
“That armor belongs to the Mandalorians.”
“The armor is yours.”
I was so pumped to see Boba in his armor again.
Another explanation for Almec is simply that he's in denial. They make a point that all the warriors had been exiled and died off. So like Obi-Wan being in denial about Maul returning because he believed he had killed him, Almec didn't believe a true Mandalorian Warrior could still exist.
After The Mandalorian Season 2 Episode 6
FansStarWars: We saw you get eaten by the Sarlacc
Boba Fett: Yes it's true but after a long agony the Sarlacc is dead
Almec dismissing Jango is an attempt to deny the legitimacy of the True Mandalorians. If he acknowledged that he was Mandalorian, then the people would see a third choice in the civil conflict, and divide them even further.
This episode raised a new question. Despite the fact that Boba's armor looks significantly different from Jango's, he still refers to it as "my father's armor." This implies that Jango had at least 2 suits of armor. Perhaps this armor originally belonged to Jaster, and Jango kept it as a family heirloom?
The lore of Star Wars is so interesting! Currently working my way through Rebels atm and plan on watching clone wars after.
Rebels takes place after the Clone Wars series FYI.
This also plays into my theory about Almec talking smack about Jango. Why? Almec was allied with Death Watch and that organization was Jango’s enemy.
Great video! I'm gonna share cause i keep getting questions about this
Appreciate the run down man! I’m in the same emotional boat as you lol. We also all know that Lucas’ biggest shortcoming is fully thinking out characters and plot lines.
His second is that he thinks that Star Wars movies are video games that can get patched whenever he thinks of a new idea or a new bit of cool movie technology comes out.
@@boc120 I think that's good idea
Dave: Wants to add Boba Fett to the Mandalorian
George: well, they ain't Mandalorian
Dave: fine, they're foundlings
George: wut?
Let us all remember the good old Cassus Fett, warrior who nuked first and asked questions later ;-)
"and then Boba just blurted out his whole family backstory" Yeah and I SCREAMED
I kind of like the idea that information is wrong in the universe, because information in real life is wrong and you get conflicting stories. You also get people trying to hide the true past of other people. It makes it seem like a very vindictive and real world, no one knows all of real history and no one knows everyone else's past.
I think Jango definitely considered himself a Mando at least up until the end of the Mandalorian Civil Wars. Once he became a bounty hunter he probably stopped due to disillusionment & loss of Mandalore. Boba on the other hand probably wasn't brought up to identify as Mando due to Jango giving up on taking Mandalore, I believe his side lost to Satine & Almec's faction. This is why in a later episode Boba says "I never said I was (a Mandalorian)".
"Are Boba and Jango Mandalorians?"
"Well yes but actually no"
Well technically it as more like “well no but actually yes”.
“Well yes, but actually no....
but actually yes”
Almec was a death watch sympathizer ND Jango hated and fought the death watch. Death Watch thinks they are the only true mandalorians. That is why Almec said what he said. Not sure why people don't get that.
I did a fully voice acted (with SFX) adaptation of Jango Fett Open Seasons comic, thought some of you might appreciate it (can be found on my channel). This is the comic that the chain code references. This also answers the following question: is Boba Fett a Mandalorian? Many believed that were not the case after the exposition we were given in The Clone Wars but it would make little sense for the creatives involved to make such iconic characters that are the SYMBOL of Mandalorian culture, non-Mandalorian (plus, the said exposition did not make it certain). To me, it was always obvious that it was only a matter of time for them to confirm that both Jango and Boba were Mandalorian. The Mandalorian Disney+ series seemed like a perfect opportunity to do so.
The days when Fett's identity was the biggest issue in canon vs. legends continuity...
I was a rabid star wars fan in the days when people were still debating wether Boba Fett was male or female or human or an alien or a robot or an Anakin Skywalker clone or Han Solo's long lost brother. Lol. Personally, I always assumed a male, human, Mandalorian...haha.
what's biggest issue now?
@@goodmind4940 everything
Man ice watch that episode like 10 times now jango and boba were my favorite characters in the movies growing up and I was like a kid again seeing boba kick ass and get to be a mando again
Wasn't Almec also giving the official New Mandalorian line of Satine's government? They had rejected the warrior ways, condemned all forms of violence and disavowed anyone who kept to it, even claiming that all of their remaining warriors had died in exile on Concordia. Of course they wouldn't accept Jango as legitimate, especially since he was on the losing side of the Civil War.
I love Filoni as much as the next guy, but we should not forget Favreau. Hes in it just as much if not more so, since he writes the episodes
I'm one of the oddballs who _don't_ like Filoni very much (his Star Wars is "ok" and can be great sometimes, but it's overall "ok", in my book). Most of the episodes in Mando have been written by Favreau and, as far as I know, this is why we're getting such good Star Wars!
Great video. Well spoken.
Spoilers-
In the new episode of the Mandalorian, Boba says the armor he wears was his father's, but didn't boba blow up Jango's helmet in the Mandalorian?
In the reference book Scum and Villainy by Pablo Hidalgo it’s said that the republic recovered Jango’s helmet from the wreckage
He did, but that doesn’t mean Boba couldn’t have found another Mando helmet somewhere. Boba’s entire getup is just barely different than Jango’s (longer shoulder armor, different boots, thigh armor), so he probably just built up his own load out over time.
As Dave Filoni said it was George idea he said it would impactful if mace saw it blown
And well would have better if we got that cad bane and boba story arc form clone wars
Couldn't Jango have more than one armor set?
Oh my god, its a different set. Jango had 3 sets of armour ffs. His AOTC set, ESB set, and ROTJ set.. use your brains
-Is Jango and Boba mandalorians?
-Yes, from a certain point of view
@Darth Revan -Boba/Jango , are you Mandalorian?
-I'm just a simple man
I think it works brilliantly in the universe, while simultaneously satisfying millions of Mando fans. And Bo Katan already foreshadowed the disrespect native Mandos have for "foundlings" and adopted Mandos.
I always thought Almec didn't recognised the Fetts as Mandalorian because they up held the warrior ways as bounty hunters instead of becoming pacifist like the New Mandalorians.
I have a question about Mandolorian jet packs. Why do some of them have rockets/missiles on them and others don't? And with those that do, how do they get new ones to replace those that have been fired off
Cobb Vanth fired his off on the bandits when he cleaned up the town AND when he fired on at the krayt dragon but when Boba Fett got his armor back, he had a missile to fire at the drop ships
Will he get a new missile by the next episode?
I really want Boba and Rex to meet. Boba in the clone wars was explored as a character through how he related or did not relate to the clones. And if Boba is Mando, would he consider Rex Mando? I’d assume not since he wasn’t raised in anyway to be Mando. But it could get real Hegelian with the character dynamics.
...until 2002, when everything changed...when the clones attacked.
FansStarWars: We saw you get eaten by the Sarlacc
Boba Fett: I ate the Sarlacc. Yummy.
The way you reconciled the Fett-being-Mandalorian thing was the almost same way I did: Almec looked down his nose on Jango because they were from different factions of Mandalorian society; Almec was ostensibly one of the pacifist New Mandalorians, and Jango lead the mercenary but still honorable True Mandalorians. A faction that's been crushed and disbanded by Death Watch, and Clan Fett was thought to be extinct. Maybe Jango's armor resembling the type the Death Watch wore was also a factor.
Love this. Thank you. Well explained.
What about the Jongo Fett helmet destroyed in TCW et they say is the same armor ?
Hey Alex, if you're looking for a Star Wars audio drama you should check out Mud 79. It's set in the years after the Clone Wars and focuses on the Mud Troopers of Platoon 79.
From the certain point of Jango Fett and Boba Fett aren't Mandalorian they're just human. Foundlings are brought into the culture they aren't Mandalorian they need to be raised into it.
Almec sees it as family tree like royalty almost.
But Din/Mando is a foundling too...
@@7TheWhiteWolf
I’m rationalizing it as different clans perceptions of the creed, and what it means to be part of Mandalorian society. The theme of Mandalorian politics from Clone Wars has carried over, and rightfully so. We already saw a bit of that in Bo Katan’s comments about the Deathwatch’s almost religious fervor regarding the creed.
So I can definitely see some considering foundlings as still being outsiders and not “true” Mandalorian’s, while others do.
From Din’s point of view, foundlings are true Mandalorians; as that’s how he sees himself. He would be a hypocrite if he didn’t.
Chapter 14 was a start of Boba Fett Reclaiming his Mandalorian Heritage why he indebted to Din and will help rescue his son Grogu and why he took it to his former employer the Empire
@@ninboy01 The only fake Mandalorians are Almec and his New Mandalorians. The man was shown in the show to be a liar, corrupt and dishonest. Since Jango fighting for the Old Mandalorians against the death watch was made canon again, Almec had every reason to disavow him after the Civil War was over.
Jango has indeed had his Mandalorian status reinstated. Almec was just a liar.
@@ninboy01 if you ask me, this was simply something John Faverau didn't like about Lucas's constant changes and since he knew Lucas couldn't do anything more about it since he sold the IP off. He reversed George's 2010 change.
I think Almec meant Jango not being a Mandalorian in the same way countries denounce terrorists from their country. With regards to the armour, I think Jango may have owned the armour and had it ready for when Boba grew up, that way the armour isn't literally the same but it did belong to Jango
Oohoh Oh no, he's getting away, what's this button here? His long range missile couldn't possibly, could it????
Have you seen that robot chicken dialogue dubbed over the new Boba Fett scene?? If not you have to go watch it
It’s by Dr Madd (the video with 100k+ views)
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The Mandalorian taught us that ‘Mandalorian’ is a culture/religion rather than a race or people
It is now officially that Jango is a legit mandalorian, but does that immediately mean that Boba is a legit mandalorian too?
@dragon1193 linktoad yes, but do we know that he took the creed?
@dragon1193 linktoad But with that logic then Jango who was not born on Mandalore was mandalorian by creed only. So Boba who is neither by birth (he wasnt born on Mandalore) nor by creed is not a mandalorian. He is a clone of a mandalorian
@dragon1193 linktoad So does that mean that the clone troopers are also mandalorians?
Jango is a foundling he IS mandalorian but Boba in the other hand is a clone and therefore not recognized as a mandalorian (even though I think he should be) but it’s ok because he never claims to be mandalorian but he does follow most ways of the mandalore
He wears Mandalorian armor. Caries there sigils & knows the Mandalorian alphabet. Probably speaks it too. If he's not Mandalorian then he's about the closest thing to being 1 as possible.
Boba Fett's chain code is written in Mando'a, and when translated it says "Foundling took into the year the concord dawn mentor Jaster father Fett Boba Fett". I guess Jaster Mereel is canon now.
I always also added the idea that Satine may have pushed for the distancing between Mandalore and Jango because his image goes against her pacifism
Jango was trained by Jaster, who’s death jango watched if you read the comic from Star Wars Bounty Hunter. Which already confirmed Jango was a mandolorian.
Hope we see some more stuff with jango and his time fighting in the civil war. They could do a game with Morrison voicing him, kind of like a modern star wars bounty Hunter and we could see Jaster (Mareel hopefully as the chain code only said Jaster) in canon form
When we think about it now, it was obvious Jango was a Mandaloria. The only thing Jango asked from the cloners was a non modified clone he could raise as his son... You don't really imagine a bounty hunter would ask to be given a kid he would have to take with him everywhere in his dangerous life... unless he is from a culture where it's a duty for any man to take a kid a raise him to be a warrior....
So Jango dressed like a Mandalorian, and acted like a Mandalorian.
However, Boba doesn't seem to identify as a Mandalorian.... but that may be something that will be explored in the future, if he doesn't die (and there is a chance he will, which would allow Din Djarin to inherit the Slave One)... will he take a foundling to perpetuate the Fett clan? Will he involve himself in the re-taking of Mandalore?
I think the best way to recouncile everything about this is that Jango fought in the civil war; and the old legend stuff put his mentor up against the Death Watch; so we can think Jango was against the Death Watch, leading to Almec probably looking down on an enemy, not recognising him as a Mandalorian, and not even knowing from where is armor came from, since he didn't really have intel on these enemies; not that specific at least.
He probably didn't knew that one of the Mandalorian of an enemy clan took under his wing Jango before dying, and thus granting him both the armor, and the honorary Mandalorian badge that comes with it... But Jango still is, because his mentor is.
That way you both have a canon Mandalorian Jango AND a canon Almec not understanding the situation and not recognising Jango as Mandalorian.
Since apparently Jaster Mareel is canon again then Almec's denial of Jango being a Mandalorian actually being a lie is further supported since Jaster was the last known person to have the Title Mandalore, Ruler of the Mandalorians and the direct opposition to the form of governmental system Almec was currently apart of.
What’s the exact comic he’s getting this comic images from at 2:45? I know it has something to do with Knights of the Old Republic but I want to read it myself
Open Seasons by Dark Horse comics
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