@Roger Loquitur I just like the quote and thought it was funny. I'm not really sure what your point is or why you feel the need to project you anger and negativity especially in regards to something positive?
This particular advice might be the same as "Do not contradict, instead, be silent". Imho another way to look at these advises is as tools for establishing a state of being that is most efficient during process of self observation. Outward appearance and behavior is an indicator of progress in developing skill of Acting, as opposed to Thinking - one might delude oneself quite far with ideas of being "spiritual" without never being able to exercise control and discipline over themselves.
These are the 82 commandments of Gurdjieff ! May be they will transform you a bit: 1. Ground your attention on yourself. Be conscious at every moment of what you are thinking, sensing, feeling, desiring and doing. 2. Always finish what you have begun. 3. Whatever you are doing, do it as well as possible. 4. Do not become attached to anything that can destroy you in the course of time. 5. Develop your generosity - but secretly. 6. Treat everyone as if he or she was a close relative. 7. Organize what you have disorganized. 8. Learn to receive and give thanks for every gift. 9. Stop defining yourself. 10. Do not lie or steal, for you lie to yourself and steal from yourself. 11. Help your neighbor but do not make him dependent. 12. Do not encourage others to imitate you. 13. Make work plans and accomplish them. 14. Do not take up too much space. 15. Make no useless movements or sounds. 16. If you lack faith, pretend to have it. 17. Do not allow yourself to be impressed by strong personalities. 18. Do not regard anyone or anything as your possession. 19. Share fairly. 20. Do not seduce. 21. Sleep and eat only as much as necessary. 22. Do not speak of your problems. 23. Do not express judgement or criticism when you are ignorant of most of the factors involved. 24. Do not establish useless friendships. 25. Do not follow fashions. 26. Do not sell yourself. 27. Respect contracts you have signed. 28. Be on time. 29. Never envy the luck or success of anyone. 30. Say no more than necessary. 31. Do not think of the profits your work will engender. 32. Never threaten anyone. 33. Keep your promises. 34. In any discussion, put yourself in the other person's place. 35. Admit that someone else may be superior to you. 36. Do not eliminate but transmute. 37. Conquer your fears, for each of them represents a camouflaged desire. 38. Help others to help themselves. 39. Conquer your aversions and come closer to those who inspire rejection in you. 40. Do not react to what others say about you whether praise or blame. 41. Transform your pride into dignity. 42. Transform your anger into creativity. 43. Transform your greed into respect for beauty. 44. Transform your envy into admiration for the values of the other. 45. Transform your hate into charity. 46. Neither praise nor insult yourself. 47. Regard what does not belong to you as if it did belong to you. 48. Do not complain. 49. Develop your imagination. 50. Never give orders to gain the satisfaction of being obeyed. 51. Pay for services performed for you. 52. Do not proselytize your work or ideas. 53. Do not try to make others feel for you emotions such as pity, admiration, sympathy, or complicity. 54. Do not try to distinguish yourself by your appearance. 55. Never contradict; instead, be silent. 56. Do not contract debts; acquire and pay immediately. 57. If you offend someone, ask his or her pardon; if you have offended a person publicly, apologize publicly. 58. When you realize you have said something that is mistaken, do not persist in error through pride; instead, immediately retract it. 59. Never defend your old ideas simply because you are the one who expressed them. 60. Do not keep useless objects. 61. Do not adorn yourself with exotic ideas. 62. Do not have your photograph taken with famous people. 63. Justify yourself to no one and keep your own counsel. 64. Never define yourself by what you possess. 65. Never speak of yourself without considering that you might change. 66. Accept that nothing belongs to you. 67. When someone asks your opinion about something or someone, speak only of his or her qualities. 68. When you become ill, regard your illness as your teacher, not as something to be hated. 69. Look directly and do not hide yourself. 70. Do not forget your dead, but accord them a limited place and do not allow them to invade your life. 71. Wherever you live, always find a space that you devote to the sacred. 72. When you perform a service, make your effort inconspicuous. 73. If you decide to work to help others, do it with pleasure. 74. If you are hesitating between doing and not doing, take the risk of doing. 75. Do not try to be everything to your spouse; accept that there are things that you cannot give him or her but which others can. 76. When someone is speaking to an interested audience, do not contradict that person and steal his or her audience. 77. Live on money you have earned. 78. Never brag about amorous adventures. 79. Never glorify your weaknesses. 80. Never visit someone only to pass the time. 81. Obtain things in order to share them. 82. If you are meditating and a devil appears, make the devil meditate too. Sarmoun Gesellschaft Deutschland
🙌 👏 🙏 🤝 👍 I really did follow this famous advice dear WOTAN . . . . and you know what ? I proceeded from a little, unknown and unhappy public servant to a great happy artist (painter). Unbelieveable, even after half a decade now . . .
„Transform your pride into dignity Transform your anger into creativity Transform your greed into respect for beauty Transform your envy into admiration for the other Transform your hate into charity“
“Whoever wishes to attain the supreme goal must first change his habits, conquer laziness, and become a morally sound human being. To be strong in the great things, we must also be strong in the small ones.”--- Chapter 9 The Spiritual Journey of Alejandro Jodorowsky by Alejandro Jodorowsky
@Roger Loquitur there is nothing in the quotes in this video that detracts or deters from Gurdjieff's teachings. so go easy on the suspicion. in fact, all of them go hand in hand with many of the things he already said and could very well have been said by him. and if the quotes are not destructive to his work but instructive and helpful, then why would you get bent all out of shape and scream bloody murder? seems like you have a need.
🙌 👏 🙏 🤝 👍 made my day Marvin ! AND we should all not forget that it is very VERY important to be professionally in the RIGHT FIELD ! For instance if you are a born creative guy you should never EVER try 2 b a great speculator or statesman !
"Always finish what you have begun" - reminds me on Tesla, who thought that way until he read first book of Voltaire and realized that there are 100 volumes of that book. He finished it and said "I won't finish everything no more" haha. Edit: Tesla first read 100 volumes, and then he said "no more"
--> SUCKED IN (into the world of another genius) But sometimes its VERY rewarding ! So me I personally recommend all books of Osho, a decisive successor of Gurdjieff !!
@@Familyproud-e9h More heftily than Voltaire is only Nietzsche - and I finished quite some volume of him . . . And what shall I say: It was a a shere pleasure . . . congenially . . .and for sure nothing for the mob . . .
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@@elninandwind7865 thank yall. I was already dismayed. Will try batches of 5. (Now, let me regale you with problems & run up some debt , brag & post a selfie with Famous Persons…)
It is indeed a "monologue" by Reyna D'Assia in a rather fictional chapter of the autobiographical "The Spiritual Journey of Alejandro Jodorowsky" from 2008. Apparently Alex speaks publicly all the time so he might have commented on the accuracy of all this, but it goes without saying that it is written both for edutainment and Alex did a good job of capturing some Gurdjieffian summary
1. Fix your attention on yourself, be aware at every moment of what you think, feel, want and do. 2. Always finish what you started. 3. Do what you are doing as best as possible. 4. Do not be chained to anything that in the long run can destroy you. 5. Develop your generosity without witnesses. 6. Treat every person as a close relative. 7. You must order what is disordered. 8. Learn to receive and be grateful for each gift. 9. Stop defining yourself. 10. Do not lie, do not steal, for if you do, you lie and steal from yourself. 11. Help your neighbor without doing making them depend on you. 12. Do not wish to be imitated. 13. Make plans and see them through. 14. Do not take up too much space. 15. Do not make unnecessary noises or gestures. 16. If you do not have faith, act as if you do. 17. Do not be impressed by strong personalities. 18. Do not appropriate anything or anyone. 19. Distributed equally. 20. Do not seduce. 21. You must only eat and sleep as much as is necessary. 22. Do not discuss your personal problems. 23. Do not pass judgments or criticize when you do not know all the facts. 24. Do not have useless friendships. 25. Do not follow fads. 26. Do not sell yourself. 27. Respect the contracts you have signed 28. Be punctual. 29. Do not envy others’ property or goods. 30. Speak only what is necessary. 31. Do not think of the benefits that your work will bring. 32. Never threaten. 33. Follow through with your promises. 34. In an argument, put yourself in the place of the other. 35. Accept when someone is better than you. 36. Do not eliminate, transform. 37. Defeat your fears; each one of them is a desire that is camouflaged. 38. Help the other help themselves. 39. Put an end to your antipathy and get closer to people that you want to reject. 40. Do not react when they speak well or ill of you. 41. Transform your pride into dignity. 42. Turn your anger into creativity. 43. Transform your greed into respect for the beauty. 44. Transform your envy into the admiration for the values of others. 45. Transform your hate into charity. 46. Do not praise nor insult yourself. 47. Treat the things that do not belong to you as if they did. 48. Do not complain. 49. Develop your imagination. 50. Do not give orders for the pleasure of being obeyed. 51. Pay for the services you are given. 52. Do not boast about your work or ideas. 53. Do not try to arouse emotions like pity, admiration, sympathy and complicity in others. 54. Do not try to distinguish yourself by your appearance. 55. Never contradict, just be silent. 56. Do not fall in debt, buy and pay immediately. 57. If you offend someone, ask for forgiveness. 58. If you have offended publicly apologize publicly. 59. If you realize that you have said something wrong, accept your mistake and desist immediately. 60. Do not defend your old ideas simply because it was you who said them. 61. Do not keep useless objects. 62. Do not embellish yourself with the ideas of others. 63. Do not get pictures with celebrities. 64. Be your own judge. 65. Do not let your possessions define you. 66. Never talk about yourself, without allowing yourself the possibility of changing. 67. Accept that nothing is yours. 68. When you are asked what you think about something or someone, mention only their qualities. 69. When you fall ill, instead of hating this evil, consider it your teacher. 70. Do not look surreptitiously, stare steadily. 71. Do not forget the dead, but give them a limited place to prevent them from taking over your life. 72. In the place where you dwell, always consecrate a sacred place. 73. When you do a favor do not make others notice your effort. 74. If you decide to work for others, do it with pleasure 75. If in doubt between doing and not doing, take risks and do. 76. Do not try to be everything to your partner, accept that he must seek in others the things you cannot give him. 77. When someone has an audience, do not disrupt them with the purpose of stealing their audience. 78. Live with the money you have earned. 79. Do not brag about your love affairs. 80. Do not take pride in your weaknesses. 81. Never visit someone just to fill your time. 82. Obtain with the purpose of sharing. 83. If you are meditating and a devil arrives, make the devil meditate.
@@dominicjan his grandma told him to not do things as contemporary people do. So as a child with his naive thinking he started walking on hands, quickly eating sweets without tasting them etc.. Opposite to how other children would do.. A habit which became a constant thing in his life.
Hello. Please let us know the source of your information. Where did you find this data which you refer to as '82 Advices from Gurdjieff to his daughter'? Thanks.
All these proverbs and instructions might just as well have come from any spiritual teacher. You might as well tell me to flap my arms and fly to the moon. It would be hard enough to master a few of these, let alone 9 minutes of them. Give me several more lifetimes.
Ab'EL's Parole Hearing: For Assaulting Khain (a skit for LESSON purposes only. Ab'el the Maurman wants out of Hell) AngELder: The ELz want to know if U can pro'nounce phoenetically NEOLMEC, Sir? Maurman: ii can vocalize NEOLMEC, Sir? AngELder: Can U forge sWORDz SPELLs with NEOLMEC Hammers, Sir? Maurman: ii can cast and forge SPELLs scribed in NEOLMEC, Sir? AngELder: So that’s two answers of ‘CAN’, Sir? Maurman: For a CANAANEE IN’DIOS who CAN, it is incumbent that ii DO, Sir. AngELder: So 'IN’DIOS' in ancient-speak means ‘god-in-the-person’, Sir? Maurman: As ii was taught, and Caned to know, Sir. AngELder: Didn’t the CANAANEE people descend from the ATLANTITANS, Sir? Maurman: Yes! As ii have come to overstand and CAN thereby KNOW, Sir. AngELder: How CAN U be so sure, Sir? Maurman: Because WE have their Bones and Arti-facts hidden, and not for diss-play, Sir. AngELder: How far back CAN U go back in your LEGGACY (what U stand on), Sir? Maurman: Since before OLMEC geopolymetric megalithian artistry on Stone, Sir. AngELder: So CAN U block and DISSPELL the errorfalsity of HYPNO-SPEAK, Sir? Maurman: Yes! ii CAN with NEOLMEC-SPEAK, Sir. AngELder: CAN U re-scribe WITHOUT causing SCRAPTARDIAL ERROR, Sir? Maurman: WITHOUT SCRAPTARDIAL ERRORITY, Sir. AngELder: CAN U see the source of dissension of the Scriptards of ALL the Religicians of Ghayah (earth), Sir? Maurman: Yes! They underlook the LESSONS of the Scriptures, unlike AESOP the LUKMAN, Sir. AngELder: What haven’t Scriptards learned that eludes and deludes them from their LESSONS, Sir? Maurman: They haven't digestated the pre-scription that ONLY THE LESSONS CAN MATTER in the MAATrix Dimension, Sir. AngELder: What interrupts those Scriptard’s ability to LEARN their LESSONS, Sir? Maurman: Excessive PARROTING from the DEVOLs (devolved) PATRIX Canon, Sir. AngELder: CAN U PARROT, Sir? Maurman: Yes, but ii swear to PARROT only when passing thru the Scriptards waylands to fertilize and TURN the Psycentities of POTENTIALs who CAN, Sir. AndELder: re-Enter the MAATrix, and Cantinue writious conductation forging sWORDz for another thousand years, Sir. Future ScripTITANic Younglings await fresh REBEL’ATIONs to IN’SCRIBE for their future CANs of Sproutlings (Klu Klux KHAN). Go forward my repentant beloved NEOLMCANAANEE IN’DIOSCRIBE’ab’EL Re-Birthee. Maurman: The Grandcestral AngELder’s Council of Cansiliere’s guidance, gratitude, and presence is appreciated, my Osirious GRAND SPELLMASTERESS. ii CAN DO. memento mauri (re-Member YOUR Prefixes, Roots, Suffixes) Note: WE must re-view Greco-Romanglish, Chinippasian, Persiarabi, Melacific, Buddhindi, Ameranasazi, Ethiobabwe, Mayolmec, Tasmaori, Perugonian, Atlantanit, etc … arti-facts, megaliths, folklore, MAPS, & literature, to identify, re-claim, and re-right the LESSONS that may have been underlooked [that WE should overstand], that may have for too long been mis-believed as NOT OURS! (Thank U, OSWALD BATES!)
Maybe these 82 commandments of Gurdjieff can transform you a bit mate: 1. Ground your attention on yourself. Be conscious at every moment of what you are thinking, sensing, feeling, desiring and doing. 2. Always finish what you have begun. 3. Whatever you are doing, do it as well as possible. 4. Do not become attached to anything that can destroy you in the course of time. 5. Develop your generosity - but secretly. 6. Treat everyone as if he or she was a close relative. 7. Organize what you have disorganized. 8. Learn to receive and give thanks for every gift. 9. Stop defining yourself. 10. Do not lie or steal, for you lie to yourself and steal from yourself. 11. Help your neighbor but do not make him dependent. 12. Do not encourage others to imitate you. 13. Make work plans and accomplish them. 14. Do not take up too much space. 15. Make no useless movements or sounds. 16. If you lack faith, pretend to have it. 17. Do not allow yourself to be impressed by strong personalities. 18. Do not regard anyone or anything as your possession. 19. Share fairly. 20. Do not seduce. 21. Sleep and eat only as much as necessary. 22. Do not speak of your problems. 23. Do not express judgement or criticism when you are ignorant of most of the factors involved. 24. Do not establish useless friendships. 25. Do not follow fashions. 26. Do not sell yourself. 27. Respect contracts you have signed. 28. Be on time. 29. Never envy the luck or success of anyone. 30. Say no more than necessary. 31. Do not think of the profits your work will engender. 32. Never threaten anyone. 33. Keep your promises. 34. In any discussion, put yourself in the other person's place. 35. Admit that someone else may be superior to you. 36. Do not eliminate but transmute. 37. Conquer your fears, for each of them represents a camouflaged desire. 38. Help others to help themselves. 39. Conquer your aversions and come closer to those who inspire rejection in you. 40. Do not react to what others say about you whether praise or blame. 41. Transform your pride into dignity. 42. Transform your anger into creativity. 43. Transform your greed into respect for beauty. 44. Transform your envy into admiration for the values of the other. 45. Transform your hate into charity. 46. Neither praise nor insult yourself. 47. Regard what does not belong to you as if it did belong to you. 48. Do not complain. 49. Develop your imagination. 50. Never give orders to gain the satisfaction of being obeyed. 51. Pay for services performed for you. 52. Do not proselytize your work or ideas. 53. Do not try to make others feel for you emotions such as pity, admiration, sympathy, or complicity. 54. Do not try to distinguish yourself by your appearance. 55. Never contradict; instead, be silent. 56. Do not contract debts; acquire and pay immediately. 57. If you offend someone, ask his or her pardon; if you have offended a person publicly, apologize publicly. 58. When you realize you have said something that is mistaken, do not persist in error through pride; instead, immediately retract it. 59. Never defend your old ideas simply because you are the one who expressed them. 60. Do not keep useless objects. 61. Do not adorn yourself with exotic ideas. 62. Do not have your photograph taken with famous people. 63. Justify yourself to no one and keep your own counsel. 64. Never define yourself by what you possess. 65. Never speak of yourself without considering that you might change. 66. Accept that nothing belongs to you. 67. When someone asks your opinion about something or someone, speak only of his or her qualities. 68. When you become ill, regard your illness as your teacher, not as something to be hated. 69. Look directly and do not hide yourself. 70. Do not forget your dead, but accord them a limited place and do not allow them to invade your life. 71. Wherever you live, always find a space that you devote to the sacred. 72. When you perform a service, make your effort inconspicuous. 73. If you decide to work to help others, do it with pleasure. 74. If you are hesitating between doing and not doing, take the risk of doing. 75. Do not try to be everything to your spouse; accept that there are things that you cannot give him or her but which others can. 76. When someone is speaking to an interested audience, do not contradict that person and steal his or her audience. 77. Live on money you have earned. 78. Never brag about amorous adventures. 79. Never glorify your weaknesses. 80. Never visit someone only to pass the time. 81. Obtain things in order to share them. 82. If you are meditating and a devil appears, make the devil meditate too. Sarmoun Gesellschaft Deutschland
not by mr.g. It is what a woman supposedly said to Jodorowsky according to Jodorowsky. He also claimed she was claiming to be Mr. Gs daughter and this was Gs advice to her. We dont know whether she was really his daughter, nor whether G gave this advice, nor whether she really said this, nor whether Jodorowsky was able to remember 82 Sentences so clearly. I don't think so.
action = outward movement of inward 'will' (to do); therefore inner intention (to experience greater faith) and outward action of demonstrating faith unite, and through united movements of energy, increase one's direct experience of faith within.
@@hajarel18 Dear Hajar El, you already possess faith (non-artificial/non-mechanical), somewhat occluded by 'mind' perhaps- but still there. It's the mind (intellectual center) that casts doubts - demands proof, seeking security (a mechanical result). Your consciousness (an aspect of the totality) KNOWS - and (one's) beingness does not exist separate from that - but the mind veils this w/ thoughts (doubt in this case). By acting (will) 'as' faith and 'in' faith (intention/attention), your direct experience of it naturally unfolds (a process) from within. It is your will (repeatedly applied) which provides the energy needed (octave-wise). DOUBT your doubt (dis-identify w/ those thoughts) instead of doubting your faith.
@@jfarina9876 Thank you very much I asked because the same verse was puzzling me in the Quran: "And worship your Lord until there comes to you the certainty " I couldn't understand for many years how worship can preced faith. Thank you, you made me closer.
@@hajarel18 Ah yes, similar to a verse in the Bible: "Be still and know I am God." All our holy books are pointing to the same experience. "What you seek is seeking you."~ Rumi. Blessings to you Hajar El.
This means a great deal to me, for G is my only "hero" and my daughter was abducted. One or two I would disagree with. I would however add: "If you have a goat, throw away its milk" :) Humour helps :)
@Roger Loquitur Yes it is true I was duped by my wife, however I am bright enough not to infer a whole psychology from a person's single utterance. Are you? Of course I don't identify with him, you fool. He was an inspiration. You might want to practise some of his teachings?
@Roger Loquitur You are such a child. How old are you 18? Have a little read about ego and identification, think for 30 years then you might leave teenagerdom
he had a son in Tibet. there is a short passage in one of the books written about him by students about a group of Tibetan men who came to visit him at his institute or apartment. one of them, their group leader was his son. he came to ask Gurdjieff for advice on a matter and then the group soon left again. Gurdjieffs did not discuss or elaborate this with his pupils and i have only seen it mentioned in one place. Gurdjieff was very secretive about his family. i never knew he had a daughter but i would not be surprised if he had several children the world doesn't know about.
Gurdjieff was the father of some children at Le Prieuré in France. The source for this are the remarkable books by Fritz Peters, Boyhood with Gurdjieff, and, Gurdjieff remembered. The first of which gives a very honest, child's perspective of Gurdjieff, and does not leave out anything that a more adult book I feel would. It is essentially a child's view, though written by the boy when he became an adult. The Tibetan visit is very interesting, thank you. I wonder could you tell me the source for this? That would be gracious of you.
@@pacofernandez2148 Truth is never invented .... why is this so important for you & others to keep saying this? & so? so what? What do you require? oh you are correct well done wow! feel better now? what has it added to you? anything? or could it be ego ? these are called buffers ; they stop us from seeing ourselves (Gurdjieff ) 🌞🌞 Maybe jodorowsky was student of 4th way? Did you research this question if it is so very important to you ? or is it just irritating to change your mind ? 🌻 It is great fodder for Work on oneself, if ego will allow you.
+wernertrptube Die Trinksprüche Gurdjieffs: Ja, hier sieht gleich ein jedermann, dass Größenwahn nicht Schaden kann. Statt still und stumpf und dumm zu leiden, tun wir ein Festmahl vorbereiten. Wir setzen uns zu Tische dann und stoßen mit 'nem Trinkspruch an: ""Versammelt sind hier die Idioten, ob einfach oder zum Quadrat erhoben, wir essen was uns vorgesetzt und fallen Krumen von den Tischen, lass' doch die unt'ren Chargen wischen, wir feiern bis spät in die Nacht und haben uns halb totgelacht. Ein Jeder sagt 'nen Trinkspruch auf: "Hier glänzen farbig leuchtende Idioten, ihr Ruf steigt auf in höh're Dimensionen, ihr Ruf verhallt in dunkler Nacht, ihr Gott hat Aug' und Ohren zugemacht.""
+BobbyG Are you 100% sure? Do you really know that? Or are you guessing? For a start, they are the words of Alejandro Jodorowsky, which he supposedly heard from someone who may have been a "daughter" of G., who supposedly heard from G himself. Thus they are least twice removed from the source.
maybe bc of the reason it's being taken? I too thought this. But if you think about it, it makes sense because then your average joe will immediately just post it up on social media for admiration. admirations is something he wrote about. One can also take it for self but it's coming back full circle that one took it for the reason of it being someone famous and not rly that important.
What? You don't think Gurdjieff ever said "Never get your picture taken with a celebrity"? Surprised one of them wasn't "Don't spend all your time on the Internet." Still, some of it was pretty good advice.
There's advice from many sources, some gets passed down from history because it's continuously proven and used. There's a basic flaw in us that prevents us from understanding and acting on the advice, so that's a place to investigate. That's the practical side of G's legacy. Why don't I change?
What else matters? Does it HAVE to be from Gurdjieff? I don't have to face or live with Gurdjieff or u, i have to face & live with myself. I just heard this a minute ago. It was useful for me at this second...i'm not sure what else matters.
Gurdjieff got it from somewhere...some he synthesized. He, with the help of other seekers and long experimentation, developed a method to gradually show us a way to combat our crippling bias and suggestibility...to learn ways to understand our experiences and aims. Listening or reading aphorisms can feed a valid part of our minds...sounds good, reminds us of a more real way of seeing. But all the wise words haven't changed basic humanity, has it? It requires effort along certain lines to really make it our own. With effort, knowledge can become understanding. It needs to be in our bodies, our feeling and our thinking. But life swallows our attention. Is there anything left over for ourselves and humanity? Glad for you that these impressions are meaningful. Always glad to hear from a critical seeker. Find others. G said that if you weren't critical in this work, you'd get nowhere.
Colin Caissie - re That's the practical side of G's legacy. Why don't I change? Is there any conclusion to this ? Did G or O develop a practical way to change ? Change what I assume is the programming imposed upon us from when are young and suggestible.
The values that are the polar opposite to that of American Capitalism. @Andras Nagy -> What if everyone literally did that? Would we still have a high / low to game? "Accept that nothing belongs to you." Umm sorry Gurdjieff; my body belongs to me. If its violated; I'll defend it. All this never do stuff sounds counter productive. Making mistakes and doing these things he is telling us to avoid with the word "NEVER" is how we LEARN. Otherwise, we are obeying Gurdjuev and not living life. Is he trying to say; live by his words and not by our intuition for a driect and immediate experience?
Er.. your body belongs to you...try telling that to a terminally ill cancer victim? We merely inhabit our bodies. Your body is a tool a vehicle not your personal possession it may seem like you 'own' it but how can you own something when you had no choice in its acquisition. It is an illusion that we own anything that is temporary. We own nothing if we're lucky maybe our soul....post conditioning. Think before cretiquing genius.
2:27 - 5:44 Your body does not belong to you. Every part of it has been something else, and in time, will be something else again. It is all borrowed. Dust to dust. Our bodies are just posh dust that is animated by our life force.
No, he just wanna share the learnings he got from his mistakes & thinking. If u doubt it, u r free to commit same/ similar mistakes to gain knowledge OR u can ponder on his thoughts a bit & conclude if there is any truth to wt he says.
Very limiting thinking! if you offend someone ask his pardon. I would be very sorry for Trump having to apologies to people he offended. The truth always offends people´s ego, I say let them be offended. Never accept any truth from some yogi, you are the master!
If you are meditating and the devil appears, make the devil meditate too.
@Roger Loquitur I just like the quote and thought it was funny. I'm not really sure what your point is or why you feel the need to project you anger and negativity especially in regards to something positive?
This particular advice might be the same as "Do not contradict, instead, be silent". Imho another way to look at these advises is as tools for establishing a state of being that is most efficient during process of self observation. Outward appearance and behavior is an indicator of progress in developing skill of Acting, as opposed to Thinking - one might delude oneself quite far with ideas of being "spiritual" without never being able to exercise control and discipline over themselves.
Roger Loquitur bruh he does use the method "self-remembering" which is one type of meditation
That’s the one
I try to start each morning listening to this as a reminder to sink in. 9 Minutes well worth "reprogramming our brain" :)
I did the same thing in a certain sense but, I think in a better way: I wrote it and i read it on a" book" everyday
after reading this now i am as well! thank you!
Has it worked?
That is brilliant.
These are the 82 commandments of Gurdjieff ! May be they will transform you a bit:
1. Ground your attention on yourself. Be conscious at every moment of what you are thinking, sensing, feeling, desiring and doing.
2. Always finish what you have begun.
3. Whatever you are doing, do it as well as possible.
4. Do not become attached to anything that can destroy you in the course of time.
5. Develop your generosity - but secretly.
6. Treat everyone as if he or she was a close relative.
7. Organize what you have disorganized.
8. Learn to receive and give thanks for every gift.
9. Stop defining yourself.
10. Do not lie or steal, for you lie to yourself and steal from yourself.
11. Help your neighbor but do not make him dependent.
12. Do not encourage others to imitate you.
13. Make work plans and accomplish them.
14. Do not take up too much space.
15. Make no useless movements or sounds.
16. If you lack faith, pretend to have it.
17. Do not allow yourself to be impressed by strong personalities.
18. Do not regard anyone or anything as your possession.
19. Share fairly.
20. Do not seduce.
21. Sleep and eat only as much as necessary.
22. Do not speak of your problems.
23. Do not express judgement or criticism when you are ignorant of most of the factors involved.
24. Do not establish useless friendships.
25. Do not follow fashions.
26. Do not sell yourself.
27. Respect contracts you have signed.
28. Be on time.
29. Never envy the luck or success of anyone.
30. Say no more than necessary.
31. Do not think of the profits your work will engender.
32. Never threaten anyone.
33. Keep your promises.
34. In any discussion, put yourself in the other person's place.
35. Admit that someone else may be superior to you.
36. Do not eliminate but transmute.
37. Conquer your fears, for each of them represents a camouflaged desire.
38. Help others to help themselves.
39. Conquer your aversions and come closer to those who inspire rejection in you.
40. Do not react to what others say about you whether praise or blame.
41. Transform your pride into dignity.
42. Transform your anger into creativity.
43. Transform your greed into respect for beauty.
44. Transform your envy into admiration for the values of the other.
45. Transform your hate into charity.
46. Neither praise nor insult yourself.
47. Regard what does not belong to you as if it did belong to you.
48. Do not complain.
49. Develop your imagination.
50. Never give orders to gain the satisfaction of being obeyed.
51. Pay for services performed for you.
52. Do not proselytize your work or ideas.
53. Do not try to make others feel for you emotions such as pity, admiration, sympathy, or complicity.
54. Do not try to distinguish yourself by your appearance.
55. Never contradict; instead, be silent.
56. Do not contract debts; acquire and pay immediately.
57. If you offend someone, ask his or her pardon; if you have offended a person publicly, apologize publicly.
58. When you realize you have said something that is mistaken, do not persist in error through pride; instead, immediately retract it.
59. Never defend your old ideas simply because you are the one who expressed them.
60. Do not keep useless objects.
61. Do not adorn yourself with exotic ideas.
62. Do not have your photograph taken with famous people.
63. Justify yourself to no one and keep your own counsel.
64. Never define yourself by what you possess.
65. Never speak of yourself without considering that you might change.
66. Accept that nothing belongs to you.
67. When someone asks your opinion about something or someone, speak only of his or her qualities.
68. When you become ill, regard your illness as your teacher, not as something to be hated.
69. Look directly and do not hide yourself.
70. Do not forget your dead, but accord them a limited place and do not allow them to invade your life.
71. Wherever you live, always find a space that you devote to the sacred.
72. When you perform a service, make your effort inconspicuous.
73. If you decide to work to help others, do it with pleasure.
74. If you are hesitating between doing and not doing, take the risk of doing.
75. Do not try to be everything to your spouse; accept that there are things that you cannot give him or her but which others can.
76. When someone is speaking to an interested audience, do not contradict that person and steal his or her audience.
77. Live on money you have earned.
78. Never brag about amorous adventures.
79. Never glorify your weaknesses.
80. Never visit someone only to pass the time.
81. Obtain things in order to share them.
82. If you are meditating and a devil appears, make the devil meditate too.
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Most sage advice. These things are accomplished by constant effort. Never give up.
Malcolm x had equally inspiring words
@Armenias Thunk what brought you in here stupid? Why can people like you no be taken out of the way ?
I think the point of the quotes is to be understood and come naturally..not working hard for them but being them
@@utterlyrelaxed9109 Thank you for your answer..
🙌 👏 🙏 🤝 👍 I really did follow this famous advice dear WOTAN . . . . and you know what ? I proceeded from a little, unknown and unhappy public servant to a great happy artist (painter). Unbelieveable, even after half a decade now . . .
„Transform your pride into dignity
Transform your anger into creativity
Transform your greed into respect for beauty
Transform your envy into admiration for the other
Transform your hate into charity“
I love meditating to this.
It really keeps me present in myself.
Wonderful advice for everyone to live by and to become. Each verse will make us a better person.
If we follow any one advice , it's more than enough to lead a happy and contented life.
Unless it is advice to avoid advice and make the path ourselves
Awesome advice thanks from South Africa
Thank you for sharing this and the music! I love ever single advice. 😊
I'll be rewatching this many times. Powerful stuff, regardless of the source.
An excellent discourse on how to abort the mechanical sides of our nature.Thanks
“Whoever wishes to attain the supreme goal must first change his habits, conquer laziness, and
become a morally sound human being. To be strong in the great things, we must also be strong in the
small ones.”--- Chapter 9 The Spiritual Journey of Alejandro Jodorowsky by Alejandro Jodorowsky
Sounds a bit like Vivekananda too
@Roger Loquitur there is nothing in the quotes in this video that detracts or deters from Gurdjieff's teachings. so go easy on the suspicion. in fact, all of them go hand in hand with many of the things he already said and could very well have been said by him.
and if the quotes are not destructive to his work but instructive and helpful, then why would you get bent all out of shape and scream bloody murder? seems like you have a need.
@Roger Loquitur yea, i think im gonna let your crazy words speak for themselves.
not even going to bother reading your wall of text.
:)
Truth is Truth it does not belong to anyone.... what was your point?
🙌 👏 🙏 🤝 👍 made my day Marvin ! AND we should all not forget that it is very VERY important to be professionally in the RIGHT FIELD ! For instance if you are a born creative guy you should never EVER try 2 b a great speculator or statesman !
Sensing our body and thinking about sensing the body is 2 different actions
This is my favorite video on YT.
"Always finish what you have begun" - reminds me on Tesla, who thought that way until he read first book of Voltaire and realized that there are 100 volumes of that book. He finished it and said "I won't finish everything no more" haha.
Edit: Tesla first read 100 volumes, and then he said "no more"
At least he finished one volume. I would fail even that 😁
--> SUCKED IN (into the world of another genius) But sometimes its VERY rewarding ! So me I personally recommend all books of Osho, a decisive successor of Gurdjieff !!
@@Familyproud-e9h More heftily than Voltaire is only Nietzsche - and I finished quite some volume of him . . . And what shall I say: It was a a shere pleasure . . . congenially . . .and for sure nothing for the mob . . .
Really excellent surprising amusing wisdom with imagination.....philosophical instruments many thanks
This video was great, thank you!
Be true to yourself.
Don't be afraid of contradicting yourself, of what you said or believed in your past. We keep on changing every second.
🙌 👏 🙏 🤝 👍Believe yourself first - not "god" . . .BUT: only if you have truly realized yourself ! BEFORE that you only deceive/mislead yourself !!
Love it …….🌞
TY for posting
Love Truth above All Things ❤️
Accept and Thank the Suffering 💚
Confront and Illuminate Malevolence 💜
From the Unconscious Hell ❤️
To the Conscious Hell 💚
Until the Paradise of Consciousness 💜
Thaaannnk Yooouuu ❤️ 💚 💜
Thank You for the music
As with things that are worth doing or being it takes practice. To overcome programming and be at peace with ego. To be able to live harmoniously
He left "buy low and sell high" out :)
+Andras Nagy ... and it can only be worse in Milwaukee
Andras Nagy HODL - Gurdjieff
Hilarious!
@@Ash091396 Apes Together Strong Game don't STAHHHPP ;D
Now I need to learn to realize the necessity of utilizing all of them SIMULTANEOUSLY.........
You can do it 5 at a time for a period of months. And if gets ingrained move to next. To master these it will take years.
@@elninandwind7865 thank yall. I was already dismayed. Will try batches of 5. (Now, let me regale you with problems & run up some debt , brag & post a selfie with Famous Persons…)
if you are meditating and a devil appears make the devil meditate too.
If u r meditating and the devil appears, make the devil meditate too
Everything he is saying do not do, is what a modern man is told to do.
I've got "do not seduce" down lmao
LOL same!
Lack of trying? Lol
I don’t think it means what you’re thinking... How else is a person supposed to have sex with his/her partner?
It is indeed a "monologue" by Reyna D'Assia in a rather fictional chapter of the autobiographical "The Spiritual Journey of Alejandro Jodorowsky" from 2008. Apparently Alex speaks publicly all the time so he might have commented on the accuracy of all this, but it goes without saying that it is written both for edutainment and Alex did a good job of capturing some Gurdjieffian summary
I know that beach. It's Pfeiffer state beach in big sur.
1. Fix your attention on yourself, be aware at every moment of what you think, feel, want and do.
2. Always finish what you started.
3. Do what you are doing as best as possible.
4. Do not be chained to anything that in the long run can destroy you.
5. Develop your generosity without witnesses.
6. Treat every person as a close relative.
7. You must order what is disordered.
8. Learn to receive and be grateful for each gift.
9. Stop defining yourself.
10. Do not lie, do not steal, for if you do, you lie and steal from yourself.
11. Help your neighbor without doing making them depend on you.
12. Do not wish to be imitated.
13. Make plans and see them through.
14. Do not take up too much space.
15. Do not make unnecessary noises or gestures.
16. If you do not have faith, act as if you do.
17. Do not be impressed by strong personalities.
18. Do not appropriate anything or anyone.
19. Distributed equally.
20. Do not seduce.
21. You must only eat and sleep as much as is necessary.
22. Do not discuss your personal problems.
23. Do not pass judgments or criticize when you do not know all the facts.
24. Do not have useless friendships.
25. Do not follow fads.
26. Do not sell yourself.
27. Respect the contracts you have signed
28. Be punctual.
29. Do not envy others’ property or goods.
30. Speak only what is necessary.
31. Do not think of the benefits that your work will bring.
32. Never threaten.
33. Follow through with your promises.
34. In an argument, put yourself in the place of the other.
35. Accept when someone is better than you.
36. Do not eliminate, transform.
37. Defeat your fears; each one of them is a desire that is camouflaged.
38. Help the other help themselves.
39. Put an end to your antipathy and get closer to people that you want to reject.
40. Do not react when they speak well or ill of you.
41. Transform your pride into dignity.
42. Turn your anger into creativity.
43. Transform your greed into respect for the beauty.
44. Transform your envy into the admiration for the values of others.
45. Transform your hate into charity.
46. Do not praise nor insult yourself.
47. Treat the things that do not belong to you as if they did.
48. Do not complain.
49. Develop your imagination.
50. Do not give orders for the pleasure of being obeyed.
51. Pay for the services you are given.
52. Do not boast about your work or ideas.
53. Do not try to arouse emotions like pity, admiration, sympathy and complicity in others.
54. Do not try to distinguish yourself by your appearance.
55. Never contradict, just be silent.
56. Do not fall in debt, buy and pay immediately.
57. If you offend someone, ask for forgiveness.
58. If you have offended publicly apologize publicly.
59. If you realize that you have said something wrong, accept your mistake and desist immediately.
60. Do not defend your old ideas simply because it was you who said them.
61. Do not keep useless objects.
62. Do not embellish yourself with the ideas of others.
63. Do not get pictures with celebrities.
64. Be your own judge.
65. Do not let your possessions define you.
66. Never talk about yourself, without allowing yourself the possibility of changing.
67. Accept that nothing is yours.
68. When you are asked what you think about something or someone, mention only their qualities.
69. When you fall ill, instead of hating this evil, consider it your teacher.
70. Do not look surreptitiously, stare steadily.
71. Do not forget the dead, but give them a limited place to prevent them from taking over your life.
72. In the place where you dwell, always consecrate a sacred place.
73. When you do a favor do not make others notice your effort.
74. If you decide to work for others, do it with pleasure
75. If in doubt between doing and not doing, take risks and do.
76. Do not try to be everything to your partner, accept that he must seek in others the things you cannot give him.
77. When someone has an audience, do not disrupt them with the purpose of stealing their audience.
78. Live with the money you have earned.
79. Do not brag about your love affairs.
80. Do not take pride in your weaknesses.
81. Never visit someone just to fill your time.
82. Obtain with the purpose of sharing.
83. If you are meditating and a devil arrives, make the devil meditate.
Merci beaucoup l’attention toujours
I cry
Dont study people; study the self for the sake of the self.
🌼🌱💚😀
Nice .. very nice
His grandma gave gim a pretty good life advice: "Never do, what other people are doing"
dominicjan she also said "never do what no one else is doing"
hmm, that's interesting
I don't remember either :D Wasn't there. But it is something he wrote about in the foreword of "Belzebub(...)"
@@dominicjan his grandma told him to not do things as contemporary people do. So as a child with his naive thinking he started walking on hands, quickly eating sweets without tasting them etc.. Opposite to how other children would do.. A habit which became a constant thing in his life.
yes, she gave this advice just before she popped her clogs if I remember rightly ; it obviously left a deep impression on our young Hassim 😊
💜
If you lack faith pretend to have it. Now how am I supposed to that?
"fake it until you make it" or "keep on keeping on until you catch on"
Isn't it interesting that everybody knew these advices almost by himself ?? somehow.... *"Don't be an Immortal Idiot!"*
*akashic-records*
~
🏁🤺 *they've* tried to *ease.*
I don't think it could be simpler than "Immortal Idiots"@@amarshmuseconcepta6197 he
Where are these quotes taken from?
Hello. Please let us know the source of your information. Where did you find this data which you refer to as '82 Advices from Gurdjieff to his daughter'? Thanks.
Seconded this question
well... atleast here's the word version, man's a legend:
www.faena.com/aleph/articles/gurdjieffs-indelible-advices-to-his-daughter/
evolutionisnear Whats that Advertising to sell something???q👎👎👎👎😲😲
Spacecraft Store Jodorowsky is not marry with his daughter.. the last woman is from Paris and her background is from Vietnam 🇻🇳
These sayings were written on the wall
at le prieure in paris
🌎he owns my little 🌎
Where does it come from ? A book ?
All these proverbs and instructions might just as well have come from any spiritual teacher. You might as well tell me to flap my arms and fly to the moon. It would be hard enough to master a few of these, let alone 9 minutes of them. Give me several more lifetimes.
LOL
When the student is ready the teacher will appear. Take what you need now, return for more later.
I was thinking the exact same thing lol... A tall order indeed
If you are female, flap your pussy, it may bring you great wealth
Ab'EL's Parole Hearing: For Assaulting Khain
(a skit for LESSON purposes only. Ab'el the Maurman wants out of Hell)
AngELder: The ELz want to know if U can pro'nounce phoenetically NEOLMEC, Sir?
Maurman: ii can vocalize NEOLMEC, Sir?
AngELder: Can U forge sWORDz SPELLs with NEOLMEC Hammers, Sir?
Maurman: ii can cast and forge SPELLs scribed in NEOLMEC, Sir?
AngELder: So that’s two answers of ‘CAN’, Sir?
Maurman: For a CANAANEE IN’DIOS who CAN, it is incumbent that ii DO, Sir.
AngELder: So 'IN’DIOS' in ancient-speak means ‘god-in-the-person’, Sir?
Maurman: As ii was taught, and Caned to know, Sir.
AngELder: Didn’t the CANAANEE people descend from the ATLANTITANS, Sir?
Maurman: Yes! As ii have come to overstand and CAN thereby KNOW, Sir.
AngELder: How CAN U be so sure, Sir?
Maurman: Because WE have their Bones and Arti-facts hidden, and not for diss-play, Sir.
AngELder: How far back CAN U go back in your LEGGACY (what U stand on), Sir?
Maurman: Since before OLMEC geopolymetric megalithian artistry on Stone, Sir.
AngELder: So CAN U block and DISSPELL the errorfalsity of HYPNO-SPEAK, Sir?
Maurman: Yes! ii CAN with NEOLMEC-SPEAK, Sir.
AngELder: CAN U re-scribe WITHOUT causing SCRAPTARDIAL ERROR, Sir?
Maurman: WITHOUT SCRAPTARDIAL ERRORITY, Sir.
AngELder: CAN U see the source of dissension of the Scriptards of ALL the Religicians of Ghayah (earth), Sir?
Maurman: Yes! They underlook the LESSONS of the Scriptures, unlike AESOP the LUKMAN, Sir.
AngELder: What haven’t Scriptards learned that eludes and deludes them from their LESSONS, Sir?
Maurman: They haven't digestated the pre-scription that ONLY THE LESSONS CAN MATTER in the MAATrix Dimension, Sir.
AngELder: What interrupts those Scriptard’s ability to LEARN their LESSONS, Sir?
Maurman: Excessive PARROTING from the DEVOLs (devolved) PATRIX Canon, Sir.
AngELder: CAN U PARROT, Sir?
Maurman: Yes, but ii swear to PARROT only when passing thru the Scriptards waylands to fertilize and TURN the Psycentities of POTENTIALs who CAN, Sir.
AndELder: re-Enter the MAATrix, and Cantinue writious conductation forging sWORDz for another thousand years, Sir.
Future ScripTITANic Younglings await fresh REBEL’ATIONs to IN’SCRIBE for their future CANs of Sproutlings (Klu Klux KHAN).
Go forward my repentant beloved NEOLMCANAANEE IN’DIOSCRIBE’ab’EL Re-Birthee.
Maurman: The Grandcestral AngELder’s Council of Cansiliere’s guidance, gratitude, and presence is appreciated, my Osirious GRAND SPELLMASTERESS.
ii CAN DO.
memento mauri
(re-Member YOUR Prefixes, Roots, Suffixes)
Note: WE must re-view Greco-Romanglish, Chinippasian, Persiarabi, Melacific, Buddhindi, Ameranasazi, Ethiobabwe, Mayolmec, Tasmaori, Perugonian, Atlantanit, etc … arti-facts, megaliths, folklore, MAPS, & literature, to identify, re-claim, and re-right the LESSONS that may have been underlooked [that WE should overstand], that may have for too long been mis-believed as NOT OURS!
(Thank U, OSWALD BATES!)
he had a daughter? i never knew this. i knew he had a son somewhere in Tibet. he was very secretive about his family.
He had quite a few more also
this is not really Gurdjieff.
@@billmurphy77 Probably not. But i have read Gurdjieff giving similar advice.
Does anyone know if these sayings are published in book, just the sayings alone? Thank you.
Maybe these 82 commandments of Gurdjieff can transform you a bit mate:
1. Ground your attention on yourself. Be conscious at every moment of what you are thinking, sensing, feeling, desiring and doing.
2. Always finish what you have begun.
3. Whatever you are doing, do it as well as possible.
4. Do not become attached to anything that can destroy you in the course of time.
5. Develop your generosity - but secretly.
6. Treat everyone as if he or she was a close relative.
7. Organize what you have disorganized.
8. Learn to receive and give thanks for every gift.
9. Stop defining yourself.
10. Do not lie or steal, for you lie to yourself and steal from yourself.
11. Help your neighbor but do not make him dependent.
12. Do not encourage others to imitate you.
13. Make work plans and accomplish them.
14. Do not take up too much space.
15. Make no useless movements or sounds.
16. If you lack faith, pretend to have it.
17. Do not allow yourself to be impressed by strong personalities.
18. Do not regard anyone or anything as your possession.
19. Share fairly.
20. Do not seduce.
21. Sleep and eat only as much as necessary.
22. Do not speak of your problems.
23. Do not express judgement or criticism when you are ignorant of most of the factors involved.
24. Do not establish useless friendships.
25. Do not follow fashions.
26. Do not sell yourself.
27. Respect contracts you have signed.
28. Be on time.
29. Never envy the luck or success of anyone.
30. Say no more than necessary.
31. Do not think of the profits your work will engender.
32. Never threaten anyone.
33. Keep your promises.
34. In any discussion, put yourself in the other person's place.
35. Admit that someone else may be superior to you.
36. Do not eliminate but transmute.
37. Conquer your fears, for each of them represents a camouflaged desire.
38. Help others to help themselves.
39. Conquer your aversions and come closer to those who inspire rejection in you.
40. Do not react to what others say about you whether praise or blame.
41. Transform your pride into dignity.
42. Transform your anger into creativity.
43. Transform your greed into respect for beauty.
44. Transform your envy into admiration for the values of the other.
45. Transform your hate into charity.
46. Neither praise nor insult yourself.
47. Regard what does not belong to you as if it did belong to you.
48. Do not complain.
49. Develop your imagination.
50. Never give orders to gain the satisfaction of being obeyed.
51. Pay for services performed for you.
52. Do not proselytize your work or ideas.
53. Do not try to make others feel for you emotions such as pity, admiration, sympathy, or complicity.
54. Do not try to distinguish yourself by your appearance.
55. Never contradict; instead, be silent.
56. Do not contract debts; acquire and pay immediately.
57. If you offend someone, ask his or her pardon; if you have offended a person publicly, apologize publicly.
58. When you realize you have said something that is mistaken, do not persist in error through pride; instead, immediately retract it.
59. Never defend your old ideas simply because you are the one who expressed them.
60. Do not keep useless objects.
61. Do not adorn yourself with exotic ideas.
62. Do not have your photograph taken with famous people.
63. Justify yourself to no one and keep your own counsel.
64. Never define yourself by what you possess.
65. Never speak of yourself without considering that you might change.
66. Accept that nothing belongs to you.
67. When someone asks your opinion about something or someone, speak only of his or her qualities.
68. When you become ill, regard your illness as your teacher, not as something to be hated.
69. Look directly and do not hide yourself.
70. Do not forget your dead, but accord them a limited place and do not allow them to invade your life.
71. Wherever you live, always find a space that you devote to the sacred.
72. When you perform a service, make your effort inconspicuous.
73. If you decide to work to help others, do it with pleasure.
74. If you are hesitating between doing and not doing, take the risk of doing.
75. Do not try to be everything to your spouse; accept that there are things that you cannot give him or her but which others can.
76. When someone is speaking to an interested audience, do not contradict that person and steal his or her audience.
77. Live on money you have earned.
78. Never brag about amorous adventures.
79. Never glorify your weaknesses.
80. Never visit someone only to pass the time.
81. Obtain things in order to share them.
82. If you are meditating and a devil appears, make the devil meditate too.
Sarmoun Gesellschaft Deutschland
Wow, THATS, some reply!!! Thanks for your typing and please have a great day!!!
Best wishes, Rob!!!🤘🤘🤘
what does 'do not sell yourself' mean ? Does this imply to not promote your work or art ? And it let it be found ?
good point. I think he means sexually. Aren't these supposed G.I. sayings written to his granddaughter?
I think it means: Be incorruptible. Have integrity. Be uncompromisable.
who weeps for than i do i do sometimes
..there one missing = ''never wholly rely on the advice and teachings of others'
"If you lack faith, pretend to have it." The same idea as Peterson proceeding to behave as though God exists. This is not a criticism.
Whose voice is this?
Dont buy cheap toilet paper
Wow
Have you ever met Mr. G’s daughter ? Who is she ?
Where is this taken from?
Gurdjieff's collection of writings. key advice ideas are extracted and summarized here.
@@netguy73 what is the specific text that mentions "Advice for his daughter".
I read most of his writings and haven't seen it.
Can anyone identify the text from which this is drawn, please? Is this in Views from the RW?
It’s from Alejandro Jodorowsky’s “spiritual autobiography”, this list is not authentic Gurdjieff
What music is this?
Gurdjieff/DeHartmann
Keith Jarrett also does an album of Gurdjieff's music (solo piano) that is immensely beautiful.
not by mr.g. It is what a woman supposedly said to Jodorowsky according to Jodorowsky. He also claimed she was claiming to be Mr. Gs daughter and this was Gs advice to her. We dont know whether she was really his daughter, nor whether G gave this advice, nor whether she really said this, nor whether Jodorowsky was able to remember 82 Sentences so clearly. I don't think so.
Are u sure these are all from Gurdjieff and directed to his daughter? how do u know this? what is your source?
映像がいい感じ。出典はどこだろうか？
Can someone explain please the meaning of "If you do not have faith, act as if you do"?
action = outward movement of inward 'will' (to do); therefore inner intention (to experience greater faith) and outward action of demonstrating faith unite, and through united movements of energy, increase one's direct experience of faith within.
@@jfarina9876 Thank you
so the result of a artificial or mechanical faith would be enough for the consciousness?
@@hajarel18
Dear Hajar El, you already possess faith (non-artificial/non-mechanical), somewhat occluded by 'mind' perhaps- but still there. It's the mind (intellectual center) that casts doubts - demands proof, seeking security (a mechanical result). Your consciousness (an aspect of the totality) KNOWS - and (one's) beingness does not exist separate from that - but the mind veils this w/ thoughts (doubt in this case). By acting (will) 'as' faith and 'in' faith (intention/attention), your direct experience of it naturally unfolds (a process) from within. It is your will (repeatedly applied) which provides the energy needed (octave-wise). DOUBT your doubt (dis-identify w/ those thoughts) instead of doubting your faith.
@@jfarina9876 Thank you very much
I asked because the same verse was puzzling me in the Quran:
"And worship your Lord until there comes to you the certainty "
I couldn't understand for many years how worship can preced faith. Thank you, you made me closer.
@@hajarel18 Ah yes, similar to a verse in the Bible: "Be still and know I am God." All our holy books are pointing to the same experience.
"What you seek is seeking you."~ Rumi. Blessings to you Hajar El.
This means a great deal to me, for G is my only "hero" and my daughter was abducted. One or two I would disagree with. I would however add: "If you have a goat, throw away its milk" :) Humour helps :)
@Roger Loquitur Yes it is true I was duped by my wife, however I am bright enough not to infer a whole psychology from a person's single utterance. Are you? Of course I don't identify with him, you fool. He was an inspiration. You might want to practise some of his teachings?
@Roger Loquitur You are such a child. How old are you 18? Have a little read about ego and identification, think for 30 years then you might leave teenagerdom
@Roger Loquitur Hush and try and be nicer and more positive you silly little boy.
@Roger Loquitur Silly child. Go to sleep
@Roger Loquitur Yes yes I'm sure you're right
All this must have been invented by Jodorosky ... I never heard it from his true disciples.
where did jodo state this?
Jodorowsky is a Legend but even he is influenced by someone in this case Mr beelzebub himself aka Gurdjieff... the holy mountain.....
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We think you are talking about spiritual daughter as Gurdjieff never recognise any daughter neither son
he had a son in Tibet. there is a short passage in one of the books written about him by students about a group of Tibetan men who came to visit him at his institute or apartment. one of them, their group leader was his son. he came to ask Gurdjieff for advice on a matter and then the group soon left again.
Gurdjieffs did not discuss or elaborate this with his pupils and i have only seen it mentioned in one place. Gurdjieff was very secretive about his family.
i never knew he had a daughter but i would not be surprised if he had several children the world doesn't know about.
Gurdjieff was the father of some children at Le Prieuré in France. The source for this are the remarkable books by Fritz Peters, Boyhood with Gurdjieff, and, Gurdjieff remembered. The first of which gives a very honest, child's perspective of Gurdjieff, and does not leave out anything that a more adult book I feel would. It is essentially a child's view, though written by the boy when he became an adult. The Tibetan visit is very interesting, thank you. I wonder could you tell me the source for this? That would be gracious of you.
This is not from gurdjieff ,alejandro jodorowsky invented.
@@pacofernandez2148 Truth is never invented .... why is this so important for you & others to keep saying this? & so? so what? What do you require? oh you are correct well done wow!
feel better now? what has it added to you? anything? or could it be ego ? these are called buffers ; they stop us from seeing ourselves (Gurdjieff ) 🌞🌞
Maybe jodorowsky was student of 4th way?
Did you research this question if it is so very important to you ? or is it just irritating to change your mind ? 🌻 It is great fodder for Work on oneself, if ego will allow you.
Gurdjieff is dead.Gurdjieff is on the RUclips road.
Das sind aber mehr als zehn Gebote.
He didnt live in our Times he ?
🤨"No he didn't -
but he must have known the *war*
is upon *us* 🏁🤺
Und wie wäre es mit einer Gurdjieff chicken-party ?
+wernertrptube Die Trinksprüche Gurdjieffs:
Ja, hier sieht gleich ein jedermann, dass Größenwahn nicht Schaden kann.
Statt still und stumpf und dumm zu leiden, tun wir ein Festmahl
vorbereiten.
Wir setzen uns zu Tische dann und stoßen mit 'nem Trinkspruch an: ""Versammelt sind hier die Idioten, ob einfach oder zum Quadrat erhoben,
wir essen was uns vorgesetzt und fallen Krumen von den Tischen,
lass' doch die unt'ren Chargen wischen, wir feiern bis spät in die
Nacht
und haben uns halb totgelacht. Ein Jeder sagt 'nen Trinkspruch auf: "Hier glänzen farbig leuchtende Idioten, ihr Ruf steigt auf in höh're
Dimensionen,
ihr Ruf verhallt in dunkler Nacht, ihr Gott hat Aug' und Ohren
zugemacht.""
+wernertrptube not bad....
A little too complicated and behavioural. Just learn to self-observe, and self-remember.
These are the actual words of Gurdjieff... you understand that, right?
+BobbyG Are you 100% sure? Do you really know that? Or are you guessing? For a start, they are the words of Alejandro Jodorowsky, which he supposedly heard from someone who may have been a "daughter" of G., who supposedly heard from G himself. Thus they are least twice removed from the source.
you have a source on that Dean P? thanks
There it is 👊🏼
Do not have your photograph taken with famous people . Why not?
maybe bc of the reason it's being taken? I too thought this.
But if you think about it, it makes sense because then your average joe will immediately just post it up on social media for admiration. admirations is something he wrote about. One can also take it for self but it's coming back full circle that one took it for the reason of it being someone famous and not rly that important.
After the first minute, I saw that none of this is directly from G.
Useful? You decide.
What? You don't think Gurdjieff ever said "Never get your picture taken with a celebrity"?
Surprised one of them wasn't "Don't spend all your time on the Internet."
Still, some of it was pretty good advice.
There's advice from many sources, some gets passed down from history because it's continuously proven and used.
There's a basic flaw in us that prevents us from understanding and acting on the advice, so that's a place to investigate. That's the practical side of G's legacy. Why don't I change?
What else matters? Does it HAVE to be from Gurdjieff? I don't have to face or live with Gurdjieff or u, i have to face & live with myself. I just heard this a minute ago. It was useful for me at this second...i'm not sure what else matters.
Gurdjieff got it from somewhere...some he synthesized. He, with the help of other seekers and long experimentation, developed a method to gradually show us a way to combat our crippling bias and suggestibility...to learn ways to understand our experiences and aims.
Listening or reading aphorisms can feed a valid part of our minds...sounds good, reminds us of a more real way of seeing. But all the wise words haven't changed basic humanity, has it? It requires effort along certain lines to really make it our own. With effort, knowledge can become understanding. It needs to be in our bodies, our feeling and our thinking. But life swallows our attention. Is there anything left over for ourselves and humanity?
Glad for you that these impressions are meaningful. Always glad to hear from a critical seeker. Find others.
G said that if you weren't critical in this work, you'd get nowhere.
Colin Caissie - re That's the practical side of G's legacy. Why don't I change?
Is there any conclusion to this ? Did G or O develop a practical way to change ? Change what I assume is the programming imposed upon us from when are young and suggestible.
There is nothing said about the source of these words.
These quotes are not, most definitely not, by Gurdjieff
This is a list of precepts from Alejandro Jodorowsky, some based on Gurdjieff, but definitely Jodorowsky.
It doesn’t say they are. They are advices he gave his daughter. Use your mind. You give advice you have learnt from others.
The values that are the polar opposite to that of American Capitalism. @Andras Nagy -> What if everyone literally did that? Would we still have a high / low to game? "Accept that nothing belongs to you." Umm sorry Gurdjieff; my body belongs to me. If its violated; I'll defend it. All this never do stuff sounds counter productive. Making mistakes and doing these things he is telling us to avoid with the word "NEVER" is how we LEARN. Otherwise, we are obeying Gurdjuev and not living life. Is he trying to say; live by his words and not by our intuition for a driect and immediate experience?
Er.. your body belongs to you...try telling that to a terminally ill cancer victim?
We merely inhabit our bodies. Your body is a tool a vehicle not your personal possession it may seem like you 'own' it but how can you own something when you had no choice in its acquisition. It is an illusion that we own anything that is temporary. We own nothing if we're lucky maybe our soul....post conditioning. Think before cretiquing genius.
+Stunami I cannot speak to what you wrote, but I love your youtube name. Wave!
2:27 - 5:44
Your body does not belong to you. Every part of it has been something else, and in time, will be something else again. It is all borrowed. Dust to dust. Our bodies are just posh dust that is animated by our life force.
No, he just wanna share the learnings he got from his mistakes & thinking. If u doubt it, u r free to commit same/ similar mistakes to gain knowledge OR u can ponder on his thoughts a bit & conclude if there is any truth to wt he says.
But ponder without a notion.
Was that 83
haha
✔
Share fairly seduca.
Stop defining yourself
Many good ideas, but this is not authentic Mr. Gurdjieff.
cliches ..pff
That Piano sound is ao irritating. Audio mixing with music is Horrible... Piano is competing with voice, not complementing. It's so Violent!!!!!!
Very limiting thinking! if you offend someone ask his pardon. I would be very sorry for Trump having to apologies to people he offended. The truth always offends people´s ego, I say let them be offended. Never accept any truth from some yogi, you are the master!
Fake! 😎🍷
Fake.....
Жора по ходу тож недалёкий. I am Atheist
“I•am•A•the•ist” a theist you say? Exodus 3:14 “I Am”
Me too . . . "Thanks god!"
Boooooooriiiing I know
who weeps for than i do i do sometimes