@@Rogeryoo To be fair to 11, they had already made their bed by claiming to jailor they were admirer to 4. If 4 was lynched, they were dead regardless so they had no choice but to try to get 4 off the hook.
as someone who strongly dislikes that kind of deputy player, seeing them get voted out was rather satisfying to watch. for some reason deputies tend to house the most arrogant players who think they can demand claims without claiming themselves. could be a doomsayer for all you know
21:23 "Tos is a social game too" So true, the amount of times ive seen a (confirmed) townie get lynched just because people thought they were annoying is very high
especially the "if you are getting emotional, you are being manipulated." I was jester and was rude to the annoying mayor, who then voted me and got haunted
He wasn't even mean, his only mistake was using all caps. Being pushy is something Deputies and Prosecutors usually do. Being rude and annoying for no reason should be reportable offence, though, even if you're Jest (I'd even say ESPECIALLY if you're Jest).
“Being rude and annoying for no reason should be reportable offence, though, even if you're Jest (I'd even say ESPECIALLY if you're Jest).” I mean, if you’re Jest, it’s not for no reason. Annoying people can be a legitimately useful strategy for Jest, as this Deputy proved.
Pipe saying emotion is a big factor reminds me of a play I made back in ToS 1, back when retributionists traded their life to bring back a dead player. I was Godfather and Retri had revived a BG and the only other player left was mayor. The revived BG was super pissed and was talking in all caps spamming messages telling the mayor he was an idiot because the bg had been revived by retri. I casually and calmly say “You know why I’m the BG and not him? Because I’m not trying so hard to convince you.” The BG got hanged and I killed mayor. My friend who was the retri in that game was super pissed that I pulled that off
I witnessed something similar to this today as coven and it made me infuriated because the confirmed guy just put it all on heads or tails (famine not convincing, townie begging, confirmed townie, begging townie lost the coin flip)
I think the vigi achievement coming after the game is for the fringe scenarios where, say, a vigi shoots a cleric that selfed, then later, they get attacked and forged as a jest. That probably happens like once a year, but it would still be unfair if achievement gives away a forge.
Yeah the achievement would confirm the alignment of the three people you shot. That would give an advantage just for that game, so it makes sense that it needs to pop afterwards.
14:45 since town could potentially get defense the achievement would be cheaty confirming your target is in fact evil, of course this game it was obvious but that wouldn't always be the case
@@daredevil2_074 some go instant, (like the shot someone) achievement he got at start) as I said above they take into consideration and delay achievements that would give info
Pro Tip: as exe, select a DCer (assuming there is one) N1… they will die and night 2 you get to repick based on who you thing will be hung d3 from d2s information
@@Enzym3 Bers is only getting 1-2 kills a night. A threat, but a slow one that you have a few turns before they become critical, and importantly, you KNOW he was the Bers. Plague/baker/Death can decimate a lot more at once. And if they had a 3 apoc game (like they did) and 2 of them popped at once, that could be game over as they take the 50 and hit Pest, letting Death end the game at the end of that day. If they lynched the Bers there, now they have 2 immunes to take a 50/50 shot on which was Death when death popped out that following turn. 100% leaving the bers for last was the right call if there was anyone else sus.
@@michaelwatkins4155No, killing PB was definitely the less cleaner play. Yeah, bers kills only 1-2 towns per night (excluding first night), but that’s significantly worse than 0 up until D4, and then 1 person or rarely 2 people per night. And 50/50? You’re forgetting jailor can exe 4 killing 2 apocalypses, while 14 and pipton shoot 3, plus the CL claiming no vm, makes three the major suspect for death with no other sus. Sure it would be the same result, but it’s a better and cleaner game. Only downside is pipe would have to wait for another chance at shooting 3 non-town.
Another cool way you can tell that 3 fake silenced was that they just typed “…” but when youre actually silenced the 3 periods are blue. Which you can get from I believe doing : then enter
No one noticed that 15 the spy had a fake will cause spy sees the exe visit lol. Something to keep in mind next time that spy is the pest most probably. Edit: just saw the end of the video, spy messed up lol.
The idiom "Don't rock the boat." is actually rooted in proven human behavior. When given the choice of allowing ONE person to capsize a boat, thereby threating the lives of everyone inside, versus tossing the one being disruptive overboard, people WILL choose to toss the one person overboard. Don't believe me? Look at what the TSA started to do to people being overly disruptive about masking during the pandemic. They tossed the person rocking the boat overboard, and banned them from getting on again for life.
War has invincible defense, while if I follow that logic, 4 vigis should do Unstoppable Attack, which wouldn’t be enough to kill war (if I remember well)
As a person who outted an Exe as a Spy before, yes, I can confirm that Spy get's an message along the line of "@2 has been targetted by an Executioner!" or something like that.
When I first played Tos2 a while ago, there was a guy who was being aggressive towards another. As Spy, I decided to bug the one getting targeted and noticed he was selected as a target for an exe. As expected, the guy being aggressive was exe once I posted my will.
That Exe game was wild, killing another WW. It is kinda sad that people who are trying to lead get ultimately lynched or killed in random lobbies but that’s how it goes.
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That Exe achievement against mayor should be easy in a TT mode, but should be doable with either Cov or Apoc majority in all any. ToS2 Exe feels much harder for me for some reason... People are getting better at scum reads or I'm just getting worse.
I notice your achievements look like a Google Doc or Excel sheet. Would you be able to share a blank version for those of us who would also like to hunt achievements?
Do you have any suggestions on the best way to record videos for this game? I usually find myself not talking about much because I don't know what to talk about
I got shot by Vigis 4 times as town yesterday. Truly Vigis are outta pocket these days. Had one that shot me cause I was one of the other two in the psy will and he let the Bers live by killing both of us. Then Bers just kills the psy.
Every vigi games I have so far in ToS2, I ended up shooting townies who was acting suspicious. My last vigi game, I waited until night 4 before shooting. I whispered someone who never spoke but still voted for a claim. They didn't replied and still voted. I shot them for refusing to claim and they were also a vigi and they shot me for asking for a claim (they were mad and called me a noob)
I had my first vigi game the other day and I got the shoot 3 non-townies achievement, but town still lost. One of the people I shot was the exe and the other were coven, so I don't think they all have to die for the achievement to work.
I have a question. If a spy sees someone getting plagued, doesn't they also get plagued due to visiting and them everyone they visit also gets plagued so it shows up in every bug?
I think that’s only if the player is bugged on the same night they’re plagued. For example say 8 is bugged night 1 and nothing happens. Night 2 the spy bugs 11 and the bug on 8 triggers saying 8 got plagued but the spy was visiting 11 not 8 At least that’s my understand of how the role works. Like in my hypothetical the spy wouldn’t continue visiting 8 while also visiting/bugging other players right?
so basically 15 (the spy in game 2) just straight up threw the game... ignored the exe message... and tried to vote the confirmed vigi letting pest win...
Second game townies actually suck eggs, also insane how they were mad at 11 for not being passive when he was witches AND claimed dep, bad players lol😅
Oof. Town threw super hard on the 2nd match because they couldn't control their emotions. Even if he behaved like a Jester, the smarter play would have been to inno him and then have like a tk merc him or sum or let him shoot to have some confirmations. Sadly, humans are creatures of passion.
He needs to play like 14 matches/day for a video,because he doesnt like uploading losses,so he often makes huge mistakes.This mistake was also happened at the beginning of the match,so i assume that was like the 10th game that day.
Yeah spy does see exe targets, one time I was spy, bugged the SK N1, saw them ATA k a pirate and saw and exe target them, they got hung D2 and town won because it was just exe pirate and SK
evil majority. side with coven, hope they survive until the end, then quick vote the mayor. mayor has three votes. exe siding coven can have up to five (seven if accounting for knighting, either due to witch/necro or misplays)
Spy blows in PB games. All you do is infect people and lose your bugs. But funny story. One time I bugged 13 who bugged 8 who bugged 5 who was pb and got ourselves all confirmed while also finding the PB N1.
The Neutral Apocalypse really blew their cover by backing one another way too much. It was obvious that they were in a team.
Especially 11 there. They were super defending the rest.
@@Rogeryoo To be fair to 11, they had already made their bed by claiming to jailor they were admirer to 4. If 4 was lynched, they were dead regardless so they had no choice but to try to get 4 off the hook.
Completely agree, but they also got pretty unlucky that there were FOUR vigis that game lol
And they had 3 apoc too which should have been an easy win, what a throw
DUDE, that Deputy getting voted was hilarious, I laughed so hard at that
Also the Dreamwaver dying to insane Vigi was clearly a skill issue
I think that's an achievement
@@potatopotato3284mfw you didn't watch the video
as someone who strongly dislikes that kind of deputy player, seeing them get voted out was rather satisfying to watch. for some reason deputies tend to house the most arrogant players who think they can demand claims without claiming themselves. could be a doomsayer for all you know
Like how dying to a trickster n1 is also a skill issue.
@@kingacrisius yeah I read the comments before watching the video lol whoops
pipes reading skills are getting better and better. at this point he might as well just get all the real roles day one.
there’s a role in the werewolf board game that does that. You know all the roles of all the other people, and if you stay alive, you and only you win.
@@jessehunter362that's gotta be expansion content I don't remember that role. What's it called?
@@will2brown50Illuminati, if i remember correctly. It’s in one of the extra card sets.
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21:23 "Tos is a social game too" So true, the amount of times ive seen a (confirmed) townie get lynched just because people thought they were annoying is very high
especially the "if you are getting emotional, you are being manipulated." I was jester and was rude to the annoying mayor, who then voted me and got haunted
He wasn't even mean, his only mistake was using all caps. Being pushy is something Deputies and Prosecutors usually do. Being rude and annoying for no reason should be reportable offence, though, even if you're Jest (I'd even say ESPECIALLY if you're Jest).
@@masansr Im not saying the Dep was in the wrong for being pushy, I just agreed with what Pipetron said about the game.
It's not even that, he was acting sus as hell.
“Being rude and annoying for no reason should be reportable offence, though, even if you're Jest (I'd even say ESPECIALLY if you're Jest).”
I mean, if you’re Jest, it’s not for no reason. Annoying people can be a legitimately useful strategy for Jest, as this Deputy proved.
15:06 Those kind of achievements have to pop at end of game else getting the achievement could give you an information.
Pipe saying emotion is a big factor reminds me of a play I made back in ToS 1, back when retributionists traded their life to bring back a dead player. I was Godfather and Retri had revived a BG and the only other player left was mayor. The revived BG was super pissed and was talking in all caps spamming messages telling the mayor he was an idiot because the bg had been revived by retri. I casually and calmly say “You know why I’m the BG and not him? Because I’m not trying so hard to convince you.” The BG got hanged and I killed mayor. My friend who was the retri in that game was super pissed that I pulled that off
I witnessed something similar to this today as coven and it made me infuriated because the confirmed guy just put it all on heads or tails (famine not convincing, townie begging, confirmed townie, begging townie lost the coin flip)
I think the vigi achievement coming after the game is for the fringe scenarios where, say, a vigi shoots a cleric that selfed, then later, they get attacked and forged as a jest. That probably happens like once a year, but it would still be unfair if achievement gives away a forge.
Doesn't even have to be that, right? Just if the 3rd shot is an immune, achievement would reveal if they're evil or if a tp gave them defense
Yeah the achievement would confirm the alignment of the three people you shot. That would give an advantage just for that game, so it makes sense that it needs to pop afterwards.
People when they get lynched for being unsociable in a social deception game:
14:45 since town could potentially get defense the achievement would be cheaty confirming your target is in fact evil, of course this game it was obvious but that wouldn't always be the case
You don’t get achievements until end of game
@@daredevil2_074you only get some achievemens at the end of the game, most of them are awarded as soon as the action occurs
@@daredevil2_074 some go instant, (like the shot someone) achievement he got at start) as I said above they take into consideration and delay achievements that would give info
Pro Tip: as exe, select a DCer (assuming there is one) N1… they will die and night 2 you get to repick based on who you thing will be hung d3 from d2s information
Same or select 8/12/2 since they are common n1 kills.
@@daredevil2_074can’t forget about 15 or 1
@@scarthecrusader8491 nah normally 15/1 are avoided or are bugged
It’s insane to me that in the first game, they pointed out “Hey 11 was jailed and there was no bers kill” and they decide to hang the PB instead 💀
PB was found immune. Getting found immune and not immediately claiming "I SELFED" is way more sus than bers taking a night off in jail.
@@bartudundar3193 Bers can kill at night though, so they essentially sacrificed a town member for no reason
@@bartudundar3193 hang 11 exe 3 and both are dealt with
@@Enzym3 Bers is only getting 1-2 kills a night. A threat, but a slow one that you have a few turns before they become critical, and importantly, you KNOW he was the Bers. Plague/baker/Death can decimate a lot more at once. And if they had a 3 apoc game (like they did) and 2 of them popped at once, that could be game over as they take the 50 and hit Pest, letting Death end the game at the end of that day.
If they lynched the Bers there, now they have 2 immunes to take a 50/50 shot on which was Death when death popped out that following turn. 100% leaving the bers for last was the right call if there was anyone else sus.
@@michaelwatkins4155No, killing PB was definitely the less cleaner play. Yeah, bers kills only 1-2 towns per night (excluding first night), but that’s significantly worse than 0 up until D4, and then 1 person or rarely 2 people per night.
And 50/50? You’re forgetting jailor can exe 4 killing 2 apocalypses, while 14 and pipton shoot 3, plus the CL claiming no vm, makes three the major suspect for death with no other sus. Sure it would be the same result, but it’s a better and cleaner game. Only downside is pipe would have to wait for another chance at shooting 3 non-town.
Another cool way you can tell that 3 fake silenced was that they just typed “…” but when youre actually silenced the 3 periods are blue. Which you can get from I believe doing : then enter
Pipe turned off colored chat
@@KnightWolf9508they'd still be bold with colors off tho
@johnathan_maximiliam I do know this, however I am saying that pipe turned off colored chat making them not blue
I wasn't expecting another one, I guess we are eating today
Very nice
spy N2 Arjun Baweja - has Bread
sheriff N2 NoNameAtAll2 is suspicious
No one noticed that 15 the spy had a fake will cause spy sees the exe visit lol. Something to keep in mind next time that spy is the pest most probably.
Edit: just saw the end of the video, spy messed up lol.
The idiom "Don't rock the boat." is actually rooted in proven human behavior. When given the choice of allowing ONE person to capsize a boat, thereby threating the lives of everyone inside, versus tossing the one being disruptive overboard, people WILL choose to toss the one person overboard. Don't believe me? Look at what the TSA started to do to people being overly disruptive about masking during the pandemic. They tossed the person rocking the boat overboard, and banned them from getting on again for life.
Tbh that just maximizes social utility 😂 (Thereby one can argue it to be an ethical choice)
it's similar to the trolley problem, save the lives of many by sacrificing the few
bro those Apocs in game 1 got absolutely shredded. A good lesson in why sometimes, you should let your teammates die
Plague also will constantly be triggering especially because spy was plagued so he himself was spreading plague.
i feel like if 2 Vigis shoot the same target that has basic defence, that should count as a powerful attack
Now I'm just picturing 4 vigis coordinating to shoot down war
War has invincible defense, while if I follow that logic, 4 vigis should do Unstoppable Attack, which wouldn’t be enough to kill war (if I remember well)
Why? That would remove vigi's weaknesses.
@@Pam234it would be funny
@@MrMelonGuy42 no it wouldn't...
“WELL, hi there, I'm a vigilante! Bang, bang, bang bang bang BANG!
Shoot, shoot, shoot.
Bullet, bullet, gun.
Zap, zap, zap, POW.
Zap, POW!”
I sure do love when spy gets the, your target was targeted by exe, or the your target was role blocked so they attacked their role blocker.
Admirer when you could not propose to your target because they are already involved in a proposal.
As a person who outted an Exe as a Spy before, yes, I can confirm that Spy get's an message along the line of "@2 has been targetted by an Executioner!" or something like that.
Does anyone else love it when you shoot your 3 shots and all of them are immune? thats lovely isnt it. especially when you want to confirm yourself
When I first played Tos2 a while ago, there was a guy who was being aggressive towards another. As Spy, I decided to bug the one getting targeted and noticed he was selected as a target for an exe. As expected, the guy being aggressive was exe once I posted my will.
Vigilante games are rare to see from you nowadays
That Exe game was wild, killing another WW.
It is kinda sad that people who are trying to lead get ultimately lynched or killed in random lobbies but that’s how it goes.
that deputy was being way too pushy. sometimes people do vote out players just for being too annoying to deal with
@@Underworlder5it’s a SOCIAL deception game, voting based on emotion is how you lose
I remember when I got vigi and I shot three non town, they all had defense though.
I believed 15 was PB until the end of the video, cuz they didn't see the message "your target was targeted by an exe" on 11.
They were real? Wow...
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A double upload!! I’m so excited- Especially because I can watch this to fall asleep!!
Seeing pros get vigi is always nice to watch.
Thanks for the videos tipepron, they get me through school :)
That Exe achievement against mayor should be easy in a TT mode, but should be doable with either Cov or Apoc majority in all any.
ToS2 Exe feels much harder for me for some reason... People are getting better at scum reads or I'm just getting worse.
just noticed 3 fake claimed silenced d2 because the dots they sent were blue
these daily uploads makin me feel some typa way… 😳
Just got done watchong the last one ❤. Thank you so much for the double upload❤
I notice your achievements look like a Google Doc or Excel sheet. Would you be able to share a blank version for those of us who would also like to hunt achievements?
this vigilante video really reminds me of school!
damn 3 immune people??????
Did you get tormented?
Do you have any suggestions on the best way to record videos for this game? I usually find myself not talking about much because I don't know what to talk about
Ngl I would've thought that deputy in the second game was conjuror trying to last second use their ability lmao
shower thought: how the hell does death get lynched?
Yay another video from piptron
Pipetron I love you bro
Apparently yea, Spy does see exe setting someone as a target
15 was confirmed evil since they didn't see 11 get targeted by Pipe
I wasn't done with the video until now, I see I'm not the only one who noticed
Yeah i noticed that too lol
I got shot by Vigis 4 times as town yesterday. Truly Vigis are outta pocket these days. Had one that shot me cause I was one of the other two in the psy will and he let the Bers live by killing both of us. Then Bers just kills the psy.
i died to one for abstaining on a day 2 lynch, i was jailor writing down claims lol
i got the, get shot by an insane vigi achievement in the first week or so and thought it was pretty cool
Every vigi games I have so far in ToS2, I ended up shooting townies who was acting suspicious.
My last vigi game, I waited until night 4 before shooting. I whispered someone who never spoke but still voted for a claim. They didn't replied and still voted. I shot them for refusing to claim and they were also a vigi and they shot me for asking for a claim (they were mad and called me a noob)
yea i shot a townie who never voted never spoke and when i asked them for a role they said none of your business, its crazy
these people are consistently trapper
William Afton innocent…… well looks like found the police officer in charge of the missing children’s incident
I had my first vigi game the other day and I got the shoot 3 non-townies achievement, but town still lost. One of the people I shot was the exe and the other were coven, so I don't think they all have to die for the achievement to work.
9:50 You can tell 4 is fake, because he didn't go on his "lover", he went on 9.
Cool, just as I was about to watch an older one.
Thank you Pipton for having a PERFECT GAME as the VIGILANTE role...
Yeah, Spy can tell you if someone is targeted by an Executioner. No idea how 15 missed that game 2, I thought he was PB for sure
I have a question. If a spy sees someone getting plagued, doesn't they also get plagued due to visiting and them everyone they visit also gets plagued so it shows up in every bug?
Yes, that's how it works
I think that’s only if the player is bugged on the same night they’re plagued. For example say 8 is bugged night 1 and nothing happens. Night 2 the spy bugs 11 and the bug on 8 triggers saying 8 got plagued but the spy was visiting 11 not 8
At least that’s my understand of how the role works. Like in my hypothetical the spy wouldn’t continue visiting 8 while also visiting/bugging other players right?
Yes if they see plauge the same night they bugged, they become second PB in a way
Thank you, pipton, for being PERFECT as the AMERICAN role.
Thank you Pipetron for the PERFECT VIGILANTE game
GG Great video as always :)
I feel like exe should have a achievement where you have to inno your own target but still get them exed.
any way you could share the spreadsheet with the achievements?
so basically 15 (the spy in game 2) just straight up threw the game... ignored the exe message... and tried to vote the confirmed vigi letting pest win...
remember, the social comes first in a social deduction game
Vigilatte moment
Damn TOS2 coffee sounds cool af
I got this a few days ago
I- I’ve been playing this game for 7 months? Wow time flies..
That town was actually pretty good
OMG!!! I was in a match with PipeTron and didn’t know!!!??
I was 15 (Flareon) in the first game!
RIP to the deputy in that second game
Surprised you didn't immediately start hunting the people who guilted 6 the coroner.
Oh hey, I also have “that backfired” (it was very funny)
Oh man, I was in that game too! I was #6. Kinda upset I died night 1 but it's fine.
how do i keep accidently getting pipe videos recommended in under an hour of them getting released?
3 shots 0 kills should be an achievement ngl mf was shooting blanks all game
It used to be in ToS1
Pipton should have named themselves Luigi bc he won by doing nothing
I was sussed of 3 when they claimed sheriff when sheriff was already dead.
I don’t know, but isn’t sheriff unique?
What would happen if an exe picks a dep/pros and they get hanged for killing a townie, would the exe win?
How do you shoot someone night 1 if youre witched?
Pipe do u stream
Pipetron finally playing the role of an average american every night
To me the deputy seemed like a desperate doomsayer trying to get claims.
Second game townies actually suck eggs, also insane how they were mad at 11 for not being passive when he was witches AND claimed dep, bad players lol😅
Oof. Town threw super hard on the 2nd match because they couldn't control their emotions. Even if he behaved like a Jester, the smarter play would have been to inno him and then have like a tk merc him or sum or let him shoot to have some confirmations.
Sadly, humans are creatures of passion.
i prefer that happen though, people like that dep take the game way too seriously and can't just be cordial while getting information
For the first game, player 5 coomsayer gaming.
IM SO GLAD YOU REMOVED PEOPLE FROM THE GAME AS A VIGILANTE
Why did pipe call 3 potentially immune when the vigi died N1 to coven?
He needs to play like 14 matches/day for a video,because he doesnt like uploading losses,so he often makes huge mistakes.This mistake was also happened at the beginning of the match,so i assume that was like the 10th game that day.
Hey double video in one day!
How do you shoot n1 ?
12:00 why didn't jailor exe anybody...ffs
LET'S GOOO IM IN THE VIDEO FINALLY (William Afton)
Can Exe kill an evolved apocalypse or is it only by hanging?
exe cant kill dude
Exe haunt will ignore evolved apocalypse and target someone else.
Vigi gaming
pipton back at it again being american!
Yeah spy does see exe targets, one time I was spy, bugged the SK N1, saw them ATA k a pirate and saw and exe target them, they got hung D2 and town won because it was just exe pirate and SK
Vigigachad
Cool game
Interesting D1 claim by 14 who happened to be a Vigi in the first game.
I want pipetron to fake psychic cause when I do it as jester I somehow get confirmed all the time cause I'm correct
Why wasn't Cute Goth Gf's "..." blue?
ПРИВЕТ!!!!!!!!!! Рождения меня
'hang a revealed mayor as a target' how????
evil majority. side with coven, hope they survive until the end, then quick vote the mayor. mayor has three votes. exe siding coven can have up to five (seven if accounting for knighting, either due to witch/necro or misplays)
siding with evils is probably the only way to do that
It was obvious 3 was pretending to be silenced lol the ... Is supposed to be blue so to fake it u have to press : first
Spy blows in PB games. All you do is infect people and lose your bugs. But funny story. One time I bugged 13 who bugged 8 who bugged 5 who was pb and got ourselves all confirmed while also finding the PB N1.
Ah, the Secret Spy Chain
Truly amazing Tech