Thanks for the great vid It brought back so many happy memories.I visited Adelaide in November 1993 for 3 weeks and regularly used the tram to Glenelg and as others have stated it was a boneshaker but a joy to ride..Those 3 weeks in Adelaide were a start of 6 months in Oz and memories for life.Thanks again for sharing your great film..God bless
We've lost the ionic " H " Type trams rattling along the Glenelg line but take a visit to the St Kilda tram museum from 12 noon to 4pm where you have a great opportunity to ride on one of the beautifully restored trams the use to run along the Adelaide tram network from 1909 to end of the tram era.
I lived in Australia for three years and I lived in Adelaide for two years and I used to travel on these trams they were such fun, and yes when they picked up speed they used to rattle like in a fast Indian bus
WELL DONE and if I had a phone then i would have filmed it to thanks for preserving the iconic experience it was the sound I was after for a project and you got it perfectly.
@smleonard55 Thnks. London area - I was in Sheffield in April; I wanted to film 'today' scences of places I filmed when Supertram opened in 1994. Alas delays and gaps in the service saw me running out of time, but I hope to try again in 2011 and then uplift it all to youtube.
Whomever was driving the Restaurant Tram was going way too fast. The Restaurant Tram Staff didn't like many of the drivers because they drove too fast. The Restaurant Tram was a lot heavier than the other Trams and didn't like going over the points, it would bounce badly. They had to put a sign telling the less intelligent drivers not to use third notch. Most drivers hated driving the Restaurant Tram too. It was easy to swap a shift to get it. I drove it a lot. Another driver DB, was also a fan of driving it. He actually proposed that only one driver should drive it and the Staff and "Owners" agreed. He took a proposal to the Tram Depot Supervisor TN and when the "Owners" said that they wanted me to be the sole driver. TN yelled extremely loudly, no! Stormed out his office to have a cigarette to calm down. He hated me, we'd had a few run ins and I'd had to call the Union on him more than once because of his rule breaking. Happy Days
It was excellent to drive too. Difficult but fun. Especially as we got free food. The main meal was a choice of either Eye Fillet Steak or Quail with Macadamia and Apricot stuffing. The desert was a Chocolate H Tram with Chocolate Mousse inside and a Strawberry on top. One night I got three deserts to take home because the patrons didn't want them
They are bringing a couple back into service, as a novelty and tourist attraction. They trialled one a couple of months ago after refurbishing it, and apparantly another is being refurbished, so they look like they are back. However they are not likely to do a service as demanding as the current ones, more like a weekend service.
The O-Bhan in Adelaide is a guided bus system which costs far more to build than a light rail system,and if dirt or sand get inside the guideway,and if not kept clean,then the guideway would not function. We only have one such system in the UK,as it costs more to build than a light rail system,and does not work if there is snow and ice inside. A new light rail tram system is being proposed for Swansea,which will include trams running around the bay area. Swansea had the first passenger carying railway which ran from 1807 to 1960.
+Eirug Sion Griffiths We in the UK have at least six such (6) systems, with two more that have closed. However, all use normal diesel buses, so their environmental footprint is not as clean as it would be with trolleybuses or trams. See here:- citytransport.info/OBahn.htm
@diesfie Well they date from the same era as Milan's Peter Witts. Its a shame that San Francisco did not take any of the discarded trams in the same way that they have been buying Peter Witts. Simon
These trams were out off date in the 70s as I remember. And this is before the nostalgia act kicked in. I’m only 54 years old and I used to catch these trams all the time. They were a horrible ride. They actually had leather straps to keep the windows up, and non of them worked. Quite embarrassing actually.
these trams represented the best that the technology of the era in which they were built could offer - yes by the 1970's they were antiquated but they were rugged and kept on going
I drove these Trams from 1989 to 1993 and none of the widows didn't work. If one was broken it was soon fixed. The leather strap had holes to hold it partially up if you didn't want it all the way down.
I travelled on several trams at different times, and filmed on different videotapes, just in case something went wrong, as that way I'd not lose everything. So in this film you see trams in an older condition with light bulbs and refurbished trams with fluourescent tubes. Sorry but I do not recall whether I only travelled on single trams or also travelled on two working in multiple.
citytransportinfo did you have tea on the restaurant tram I want to restore the restaurant tram and scrap the fucking flexi crap classic trams these kinds of trams were replaced by flexi what a pitty
so you video taped the restaurant tram right and also back in 1991 you should be old right this is 2014 I am sorry if I offended you sorry my apologies
LOL, old? me? But what constitutes 'old'? Only a few hundred years ago people were considered 'old' if they reached the age of 60. Nowadays people are thought to have died young if they did not reach 80. But for the pollution, stress, wrong foods and a healthcare system designed to financially enrich large corporations rather than extend life through good health, many people would be reaching 110, even 120. I was 31 when I filmed this. To a teenager that age will seem 'old' To an octogenarian that age will seem like a mere youngster. Simon
citytransportinfo mike rann announced to extend the tramway citytransportinfo trans Adelaide was responsible and government citytransportinfo from service for no reason bloody bastards citytransportinfo 367 351 h class trams use to run before being pulled citytransportinfo more h class restaurant citytransportinfo nothing wrong with old trams despite wheelchair access citytransportinfo do you hate the new trams flexity and citadis citytransportinfo it serial number is 351 sundays I do not know what month but it runs do you hate the new trams citytransportinfo please more h videos tram a heritage tram still runs citytransportinfo a additional pair of restaurant tram citytransportinfo I love the restaurant tram did they have pairs of restaurant tram or just one I grow up I want to restore and add citytransportinfo tram citytransportinfo restaurant citytransportinfo more restaurant tram please citytransportinfo get another vid of h class trams please citytransportinfo can you make another video please about the restaurant tram at stkilda more h class tram videos
The sound of the rattly old tram brings back memories of going on it as a child.born in glenelg now the trams are long gone what a shame
Thanks for the great vid It brought back so many happy memories.I visited Adelaide in November 1993 for 3 weeks and regularly used the tram to Glenelg and as others have stated it was a boneshaker but a joy to ride..Those 3 weeks in Adelaide were a start of 6 months in Oz and memories for life.Thanks again for sharing your great film..God bless
That's a month after the STA had sacked me for blowing the whistle on the Union's bully boy tactics to get us to sign our new contracts
Its great to see everyone looking around and not at the bloody phone
We've lost the ionic " H " Type trams rattling along the Glenelg line but take a visit to the St Kilda tram museum from 12 noon to 4pm where you have a great opportunity to ride on one of the beautifully restored trams the use to run along the Adelaide tram network from 1909 to end of the tram era.
Miss these loved the trip to the city from Glenelg on these everyday. They were rugged they were rickety rockety all the way, they were our history.
Glenelg looks very different today!
The blue Restaurant Tram now resides in St Kilda.
Proud to say I rode the Adelaide to Glenelg tram back in 1999.
I rode this tram, December 1991. Memories, visiting my relatives who lived in Athelstone.
I drove them from 1989 to 1993
@@MartintheTinman awesome man!!
i like that blue tram in the end it looks agile and looks like it is showing off
I lived in Australia for three years and I lived in Adelaide for two years and I used to travel on these trams they were such fun, and yes when they picked up speed they used to rattle like in a fast Indian bus
So weird to see everyone on public transport looking at their surroundings instead of down at their phones.
Books were long invented by then and many looked down at their books and magazines too.
WELL DONE and if I had a phone then i would have filmed it to thanks for preserving the iconic experience it was the sound I was after for a project and you got it perfectly.
I drove these Trams from 1989 to 1993.
I was probably working this day
@@HeathGallagher-xc1bh yes, I remember David
@@HeathGallagher-xc1bh Andrew Lee, yes I remember
@@HeathGallagher-xc1bh yes
It’s marvellous because I rode it that year and like a time capsule it’s like I was right back on board
I drove these Trams from 1989 to 1993.
Happy Days
thank you for video taping it I know what it is like back then before citadis and flexity replaced these icons
This is 5 months before I left Adelaide for the UK. Visited twice since - second time in December 2005 just before these beauties were replaced.
Thank you for this great footage - 19 years is not that long ago, but it looks like a view far back in technical history - 5 Stars from me
Phuket restaurant still going strong today!
@smleonard55 Thnks.
London area - I was in Sheffield in April; I wanted to film 'today' scences of places I filmed when Supertram opened in 1994. Alas delays and gaps in the service saw me running out of time, but I hope to try again in 2011 and then uplift it all to youtube.
Whomever was driving the Restaurant Tram was going way too fast.
The Restaurant Tram Staff didn't like many of the drivers because they drove too fast.
The Restaurant Tram was a lot heavier than the other Trams and didn't like going over the points, it would bounce badly.
They had to put a sign telling the less intelligent drivers not to use third notch.
Most drivers hated driving the Restaurant Tram too.
It was easy to swap a shift to get it.
I drove it a lot.
Another driver DB, was also a fan of driving it.
He actually proposed that only one driver should drive it and the Staff and "Owners" agreed.
He took a proposal to the Tram Depot Supervisor TN and when the "Owners" said that they wanted me to be the sole driver.
TN yelled extremely loudly, no!
Stormed out his office to have a cigarette to calm down.
He hated me, we'd had a few run ins and I'd had to call the Union on him more than once because of his rule breaking.
Happy Days
I have been inside the restaurant tram st Kilda it was luxuriously beautiful inside
It was excellent to drive too.
Difficult but fun.
Especially as we got free food.
The main meal was a choice of either Eye Fillet Steak or Quail with Macadamia and Apricot stuffing.
The desert was a Chocolate H Tram with Chocolate Mousse inside and a Strawberry on top.
One night I got three deserts to take home because the patrons didn't want them
have you been on the silver ones before ? back in the 50s they had silver h class trams with a red lining
Even back in 1991 Moseley tram station was still car friendly & a lot more spacious all round
They are bringing a couple back into service, as a novelty and tourist attraction. They trialled one a couple of months ago after refurbishing it, and apparantly another is being refurbished, so they look like they are back. However they are not likely to do a service as demanding as the current ones, more like a weekend service.
5:33 that looked like Morphett Road but the cantilever is missing
have you been on the restaurant tram before does the motor sound the same as other h's or not I mean other h class trams
Yes, it sounded the same.
It was a difficult Tram to drive because of the extra weight and many Drivers would happily swap shifts to get out of it
Tramtastic!
Love light rail
Not sure where you live but have you seen aour trams in Sheffield
South Yorkshire?
13:59 14:58 I love that shot of it and the interior xD
nice video, thumbs up!
Were all of these trams replaced by new vehicles or are there still some in service?
go to the tramway museum at st Kilda they have the restaurant tram there and other old ones
@citytransportinfo although there is still one or two at the Glengowrie depot, they are no longer in service.
the diesel bus was a Volvo b59 I love glenelg
@Betamas a few remain but I think only for special events - maybe someone from Adelaide will know more.
The O-Bhan in Adelaide is a guided bus system which costs far more to build than a light rail system,and if dirt or sand get inside the guideway,and if not kept clean,then the guideway would not function. We only have one such system in the UK,as it costs more to build than a light rail system,and does not work if there is snow and ice inside. A new light rail tram system is being proposed for Swansea,which will include trams running around the bay area. Swansea had the first passenger carying railway which ran from 1807 to 1960.
+Eirug Sion Griffiths We in the UK have at least six such (6) systems, with two more that have closed.
However, all use normal diesel buses, so their environmental footprint is not as clean as it would be with trolleybuses or trams.
See here:- citytransport.info/OBahn.htm
They should run these old trams on Sundays
You have to go to the Tramways Museum in St Kilda
maybe not every sunday but on state public holidays, yes
@diesfie Well they date from the same era as Milan's Peter Witts.
Its a shame that San Francisco did not take any of the discarded trams in the same way that they have been buying Peter Witts.
Simon
Travelled on these 'ol girls heaps...
Same here
These trams were out off date in the 70s as I remember. And this is before the nostalgia act kicked in. I’m only 54 years old and I used to catch these trams all the time. They were a horrible ride. They actually had leather straps to keep the windows up, and non of them worked. Quite embarrassing actually.
these trams represented the best that the technology of the era in which they were built could offer - yes by the 1970's they were antiquated but they were rugged and kept on going
Agreed, while they have charm I see them as a representation of the decay that plagued SA from the 50's to the early 2000s
I drove these Trams from 1989 to 1993 and none of the widows didn't work.
If one was broken it was soon fixed.
The leather strap had holes to hold it partially up if you didn't want it all the way down.
Living nostalgia ,o)
Betweem 9am and 3pm weekdays and after 7pm only single cars were used.
funny thats how peak hour tickets are defined today
tramtastic
citytransportinfo were you traveling in a pair of h class trams or a single car ?
I travelled on several trams at different times, and filmed on different videotapes, just in case something went wrong, as that way I'd not lose everything.
So in this film you see trams in an older condition with light bulbs and refurbished trams with fluourescent tubes.
Sorry but I do not recall whether I only travelled on single trams or also travelled on two working in multiple.
citytransportinfo did you have tea on the restaurant tram I want to restore the restaurant tram and scrap the fucking flexi crap classic trams these kinds of trams were replaced by flexi what a pitty
citytransportinfo did you ride the restaurant tram before I want to know please ?
citytransportinfo why not
they were bone shakers but had character and charm
I have too much questions I love this h class trams more than steam trains
yes and youtube treated all of your questions as if they were spam and I had to approve them before they became visible to everyone.
citytransportinfo thank you google plus removes comments google plus is responsible in comment changes
I love these Trams too but I'm biased, having driven them
did the restaurant tram had airconditioning ?
sorry, I dont know. I saw it at the station and jumped aboard for a quick look inside. I did not travel on it.
citytransportinfo ok do you despise flexity trams the new ones do you hate them and the citadis
I believe it did have air conditioning because the windows weren't able to be opened
did you ride the restaurant tram
I have but at the pointy ends
so you video taped the restaurant tram right and also back in 1991 you should be old right this is 2014 I am sorry if I offended you sorry my apologies
LOL, old? me? But what constitutes 'old'?
Only a few hundred years ago people were considered 'old' if they reached the age of 60. Nowadays people are thought to have died young if they did not reach 80. But for the pollution, stress, wrong foods and a healthcare system designed to financially enrich large corporations rather than extend life through good health, many people would be reaching 110, even 120.
I was 31 when I filmed this. To a teenager that age will seem 'old' To an octogenarian that age will seem like a mere youngster.
Simon
citytransportinfo your right about pollution it is said that coal smoke cause cancer more than cigarettes
citytransportinfo mike rann announced to extend the tramway
citytransportinfo trans Adelaide was responsible and government
citytransportinfo from service for no reason bloody bastards
citytransportinfo 367 351 h class trams use to run before being pulled
citytransportinfo more h class restaurant
citytransportinfo nothing wrong with old trams despite wheelchair access
citytransportinfo do you hate the new trams flexity and citadis
citytransportinfo it serial number is 351 sundays I do not know what month but it runs do you hate the new trams
citytransportinfo please more h videos tram a heritage tram still runs
citytransportinfo a additional pair of restaurant tram
citytransportinfo I love the restaurant tram did they have pairs of restaurant tram or just one I grow up I want to restore and add
citytransportinfo tram
citytransportinfo restaurant
citytransportinfo more restaurant tram please
citytransportinfo get another vid of h class trams please
citytransportinfo can you make another video please about the restaurant tram at stkilda more h class tram videos
citytransportinfo question why were h type trams replaced in the first place
I don't want these to go
+Thomas Ninan You still have a few, but only for heritage services. Despite being old and not accessible these are lovely trams.
+Thomas Ninan restaurant tram lol
I know you travelled in 1000 car h class trams