I hate how everybody says drugs shouldn't make you high or feel euphoric. If I'm sick or in pain I'm taking the one that makes me feel good rather than just better. Happiness is a beneficial and positive effect for a drug that's supposed to help you. Here you have codeine that's not really strong for pain. You can take it and be so high that it doesn't matter that much that it hurts. Or you can take fentanyl in winch case you can lose a finger and not feel it but you won't feel very good. Both are addictive or shall I say cause dependence. If I'm always gonna be in pain I'd rather take the one that won't kill me and makes me smile.
D May Sorry. To hear about your "problems". However, you will never, EVER get off the merry go round until you have made the sincere decision that you want to stop.. Very simply, you're not going to stop if you don't want to......conversely, you WILL stop....if you truly, deep down inside, want to stop. I did it. You can too.....
Gotta Say Seth, this is by far one of your best, most organized, informative videos! Seriously, I'm astonished by the amount I've learned, and just barely been able to comprehend during this some/if not most of this through a first pass. I tend to have to re-listen to your videos over and over! But that's fantastic, I get so much more knowledge from it. You have a gift!
I was sick recently and after a few days my mom gave me an old bottle and said it would help my cough that I had. I took it and went to bed. I woke up the next day so freaking happy. The stuff in the bottle was a mix of Codeine and some other meds and I still was a little buzzed from the last dose because I only went to bed a few hours prior. My dumbass took 5 times the normal dose and got the best sleep I had in a long time. When I woke up to go to school I quickly googled what Codeine was and saw it was kinda like morphine. I decided to take another big dose and go to school. I was so freaking high. I kept misspelling my own name when I wrote it down and everything was just so funny and I felt really good around people. Granted this was just accidental personal experience and I didn't plan on going to school high off my face but it will make a good story.
Codeine 100% reduces cough I've used it on and off for about 10 years I promise you it stops a cough, love your channel I know this information isn't coming from you directly but anybody reading this codeine is an amazing cough suppressant.
I have whooping cough with severe pain due to the constant coughing and my doctor gave me 30 codeine tablets and it relieved my pain and cough so it does work
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Paracetamol 500mg/Codeine 30mg. Broke my leg and got some more earlier this year. I have only ever got the straight 30mg codeine phosphate tablets once years ago. Popped 4 at the time because why not when you have heaps of them. Never been hooked long-term on codeine though. Oxycodone is bad. It is too good for pain and the euphoria is mental. I always found I wanted more when I have been given them to manage pain.
@@chefdownunder92True. The euphoria u get from oxycodone is so great that its hard not to want more n more. It feels too good. As u said, be careful w this one. Just agreeing w ur comment. 👍
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I think Codeine does have anti coughing effects simply because it slows down regular breathing and breathing can aggravate a bad cough. Shallower breathing, less irritation in the throat, less coughing. Right?
The studies, at least those dealing with cough from URI, have used placebo controls. Once you're comparing codeine in a blinded manner against placebo, the beneficial effect doesn't appear distinguishable from placebo. And typical doses for cough don't substantially impact respiration.
@@TheDrugClassroom Somethings amiss here, there is no way a placebo would slow down the CNS. I suppose if someone thinks they have taken codiene they may relax breathing anyway and this might account for the correlation.
No it's not the reason is it breaks down the mucus in lungs idk the science but I abused dxm so long it wont work for me now but the lean gets rid of that shit in your lungs when smoking or sick I feel the heavy limbs and dream like state atm
I always thought codiene was prescribed more often than morphine because of its oral bioavailability. Doctors don't typically like when patients snort or shoot their drugs.
Oral morphine is available and is sometimes now being used in place of codeine. And alternative opioids are also fine, as are NSAIDs and paracetamol. The use cases for codeine are pretty limited.
GAllium Yttrium.. Yes, I thought that because morphines bioavailability is 10% (90% gets destroyed in the stomach) that they convert it to codeine which has a 90% bioavailability. Codeine cannot be injected because it is lethal this way (not because of tolerance or anything, just from the toxicity of this way of administration). Also yes you cant snort codeine as it needs to be metabolized in the liver. The Drug Classroom... As a pure CODEISAN (spain's pure codeine preparation of 28.7mg per pill shown in this video) addict, often times taking more than a gram a day (at least 6 hours between doses so my CYP2D6 can regenerate, this video was very accurate. Thank you very much for your work and insight.
I'm stunned to hear that codeine is basically ineffective as an anti-tussive. I've been susceptible to URIs all of my life and have always found that codeine was hella effective, sometimes being the only thing that would control my cough, for 4-6 hours. Hard to believe that the placebo effect could so consistently work even in cases of severe bronchitis and pneumonia, but stranger things have happened, I suppose.
Exactly thinking the same thing. I got codeine for my cough thats lasting 6 weeks now. It works 4 hours max. against my cough. People around me also notice that I cough less then before. Not all of them know I take codeine. If it does not work or is a placebo, I should have noticed. It does not cure me however but does fight the symptons.
I'm going to discuss codeine further in another video, specifically focusing on why it shouldn't be widely used. There's no good justification for codeine's widespread use and in some cases, it actually causes harm. Prescribing practices need to change, especially given we have enough alternatives to codeine to make the switch.
The Drug Classroom Isn't even just DXM much more effective at stopping cough? Why would an addictive substance be given out for common URI? Not to mention the popularization of "lean" in pop culture. Why would you take something at a massive dose just to have part of it become morphine?? And then take promethazine to stop the itch/stomach problems and also combine alcohol???? I can understand if someone wanted to CWE a bunch of codeine but it just seems too dependent on metabolism to be sure how will it affect you. Meh, to each their own I suppose. Another case for full drug legalization and regulation.
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Codeine definitely helps with coughs. When I have a cold with a nasty cough and can’t sleep at night with the cough continually keeping me awake taking codeine actually does stop this and allows for a decent nights sleep
Exactly,espesially my homeCountry Finland has the seasons like cold winter when cough medicine is needed,especially if you move warm indoor out to cold all the time a nd vice versa. That "research" is complete bs. All opioids ease coughing reflex
Was on codeine a few times after some bad slams in the skatepark (herniated disc, broken ribs) and it did its job. I felt really cozy, even looked forward to taking them. I kind of miss it lol.
@@roodfooddoods i took a tylenol for tmd and it just kinda helped, took some codeine and i could finally sleep without feeling like someone was digging a knife through my jaw
Codeine helps me through the pain of my lonely life, i only take low doses at a time, 2 tablets = 60mg in Australia, i used to get drunk to ease my loneliness, but i reckon alcohol is worse & of course for your liver, Cheers, from Australia 😂
I’ve just let go of alcohol from a steady drinker everyday for about 16 years. The withdrawals are frightening, I went cold turkey. The withdrawals seem to be slowly passing but my motivation is still down and sleeping is near impossible. Vitamin B tablets, green smoothies, milk thistle, multi vitamins and the love from my wife helps A LOT. Also from Australia. Friends are overrated, learn to love yourself.
Wow that’s crazy as hell im abit of a slow metaboliser but I have to take 8 30mg codeines to get buzzed and I’ve never actually had a dependency problem with any drug to have such a high tolerance
Told my dad once I was having trouble sleeping and feel like I have not had any deep sleep, he gave me a pill and said take it befor you go sleep turns out it was some prescribed opioid type pill it basically took me to dream land for like 14 hrs And I had never felt more recharge before, he was taking them for chronic back pain, im glad he only would allow me to have one Id be popping them like mad lol
Itchiness is the worst part of any opioid, when I was addicted to Vicodin I would ALWAYS itch my nose till it was raw and sore, I would say it is the worst side effect of taking opioids recreationally.
I’ve just been prescribed Dihydrocodiene for pain for a Herniated Disc Bulge. I’m in so much pain I can’t sit, stand or lay down without screaming in pain. This is the third time I’ve had a Herniated Disc Bulge in six months and I wish they’d send me for an MRI scan to see why. I’m a full time wheelchair user after a fall five years ago and breaking many bones I’m unable to bend my knee and I have foot drop so trying to transfer is agony.
I've just got back from Spain from a short holdiay and picked up the most painfull tonsalitis ive ever had I was given antibiotic and 500mg/30mg paracetamol/codeine. It's crazy strong I swallowed 2 after an hour i could feel the swelling in my throat but had no pain there at all also my all over aching went away, I can see why they are addictive. I'm glad I've only got one box of them. I'm not going to use them more than three days probably just two really but it meant I wasn't laid in bed for 2 days straight on holiday
codeine is amazing for coughs, you CWE a large dose and an irritable cough thats been hell for hours goes away within minutes. i have way too much experiance with codeine and one thing it does do is temporarily suppress a cough.
At least with cough associated with URI, the evidence pretty consistently finds that both codeine and placebo will reduce cough significantly post-administration. The difference between placebo and codeine isn't significant, indicating whatever change is noticed is a placebo effect. The studies mostly all point in the same direction on this topic. Some of the studies that showed an effect with codeine weren't controlled. Once placebo controls were added, the effect disappeared.
first off i really appreciate the response man, i dont know about studies, just experiance. i unfortunatly had a serious codeine habit for 5+ years i live in a 1st world country where at one time i could buy a gram of codeine for under $15 over the counter, theyve regulated it somewhat but its still OTC. it was not placebo. as soon as the effects started wearing off the cough came back terribly. 2 doctors and countless pharmacists (i have a few friends that studied medicine) have said codeine and DHC (to a much lesser extent) are the best cough suppressants on the market for a dry irritable cough. the codeine ceiling dose is either a myth or some people are lucky/unlucky enough for more of it to cross the BBB or metabolize it extremely well. i know of someone that was up to a 3500mg+ daily addiction and it killed him. he didnt wake up one day, he actually overdosed on codeine which we all thought was pretty much impossible. this guys addiction and overdose is documented on one of the biggest drug websites on the internet (they focus on HR, im sure you know it.) i know youre a smart guy and know you're shit but respectfully i disagree with the studies. ive seen it work for way too many people. maybe they were testing it at low medicinal doses and i assure you we didnt CWE low doses, ha. the high dose may have made the difference.
no im not saying that. Im more referring to addiction potential and social harm like dependence. maybe if you werent so close minded and would think for a second. You very well know that the USA is having an Opioid crisis. Im saying the best medical route to prevent it from continuing is to reduce the use of these pharmaceuticals as we are just learning now what damage they have caused to society. Opioids are fantastic drugs but are VERY addictive and dependent. Back in the 80s there was an issue with a drug called Methaqualone. This drug, also known by brand as Qualuudes were prescribed to people as a sleep aid. They at first were easily obtained OTC so people began discovering its recreational use. Soon the FDA had to ban the drug and it was scheduled but it already caused damage. In Pharamacology we look for substances that are safe both physically and psychologically. Good day
Addiction doesn´t start in the drugs. Inorder for someone who takes an opioid once to become addicted they need other problems. The opioid crisis only exists because people are doing street opioids instead of prescription opioids. There was no "opioid epidemic" when prescription opioids where at their height but now when people can´t get those they turn to heroin witch is cut with fent so they die but there would be no such problem if opioids were legal and regulated that way but now people take every overdose from unregulated opioids and use that as evidence that regulated opioids are the absolute worst.
I was given this recently after I had a sporting accident. I never want to take it again, id rather feel slightly uncomfortable then feel like one of the walking dead.
Codeine has been a blessing for my chronic back pain every time I have a flare-up. I just take the necessary dose a day to keep my pain levels tolerable. Just 60 mg or 2 tablets of 30 mg per day can be enough although I might need a bit more but rarely. All in all it has always been my rescue analgesic to get me out of acute pain. Regardless of everything you said, which I can't dispute, codeine does work for me.
That’s the same with me. I have Chronic ingrown toenails and have to have surgery on them every six months and I usually just take over to counter medications but I have codeine in back up
Bruh youtube shouldn’t take down these videos because what if someone wants to try something for the first time and ends up hurting themselves or not understanding dosages etc.
Why do opioid agonists such as naltrexone cause withdrawal in opioid tolerant users but when administered to an opioid naive individual there's no withdrawal when Naloxone blocks our own endogenous endorphins? Amazing videos btw
Are really bad headaches a side effect of stopping use. I’m been clean 3 weeks no issue I was ready to walk away and I feel amazing but are headaches a side effect like bad headaches
Ceilling dose is misunderstood, it is about painkiller effect, recreational effects still increase which is seen with growing tolerance, say person needs 800mg to get desired effects, dosing 1000mg will give better effect. Improvements are really small but they do happen. Speaking from experience of many people (myself included), sadly I can't provide any research to back that up.
TDC, may I ask what your education background is? You are a very good speaker due the fact you seem to understand what you speak about and that doesn’t come from just reading off a Wiki page
Doctor prescribed me 60mg plus 1g of paracetamol every 6hrs because of my sciatica (hurts like hell). The side effects are bad (vomiting/ nausea/ itching) and at first I don’t understand why people get addicted. But after a few days (the pain goes away), I experience the state of IDGAF. It helps me calm my nerves (anxiety), gives me a good sleep that even zopiclone cant deliver, and yeah dreaminess. I hope the pain in my sciatica goes away soon as I am afraid I might get addicted to this feeling!!! 😭😭😭
Lol best pain and cough I have to take about 30 30 mg tablets and it does nothing for pain and a bit for cough I can't overdose because I can't turn the codiene into morphine that's why I take that much codiene because it's weak and I can't metabolize it in to morphine good so to get some relief I take 30 tablets to get some relief it's weak
Codeine is an opioid plate only at high doses of over 80 mg, which has a euphoric state followed by drowsiness and the time of action is very short 2, up to 3 hours ... are less harsh than tramadol but, tramadol is a longer action, my opinion
you could really broaden your audience by using less jargon. Very Informative! but just frustrating from a non-medical perspective to have to look up so many medical terms in order to under stand. I am a Cop married to an Occupational Therapist, we have learned that plan talk reaches a wider audience.. just advise from a fellow Tuber!
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I take a combination drug with 8mg Coedine and paracetomol in it for menstutal pain, and I find it helps a LOT in relieving the pain, and paracetomol on its own doesn't do the same- Is it bad for me to take, should I look for an alternative?
When I was in high school, I got my wisdom teeth out and the ortho prescribed me some codeine. I saved a couple of the pills I had after I recovered and took them late one night to see how fun it was. I woke up the next morning groggy, disoriented, and dissociating, only to find out we had state testing at school that day. Midway through the test I had to go sit outside with a trash can because of how nauseous I was. 1/10 because of the funny story I got out of it but definitely a terrible drug lol
Off the script I know. Question. I have a question about oxycodone 20mg I.R capsules. My mate snorts the capsules , pure white powder , 60mg up each nasal . Is this a high dose. BTW. This happens 3times daily. They are prescribed , But is it a waste using them like this ? Thanks
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It is my personal experience that hydrocodone does indeed alleviate cough and it does so consistently. It has been prescribed many times and every time it stopped the coughing.
is a strong dose 150-200mg ??? most people pour up 200 - 400 mg if you aint sippin it muddy you not really getting high you just getting sedated (not saying u should do high doses like that ) but 150-200mg is not high dose
Question???? Is it the Oral taking of these painkillers is what causes damage to the liver? What if these painkillers are directly injected into your veins, is it still going to be a limit of days you can take it? I know 7 days is maximum for most painkillers....but wondering if their is a different effect if not taken orally??
There actually is a good reason to give codeine PO instead of morphine, as most all of the codeine is usable by the body PO whereas approximately only 10% of oral morphine is. Approximately 90% of oral morphine is inactivated in the first pass liver pathway.
I was born in the 70s and I still remember codeine based cough syrup was a major problem in my country during the 80s and 90s which lead to a complete ban of the substance.
Codien isn't used or marketed as a cough medicine bro. It's used as a depressesent pairs with an expectorant. The expectorant is what is used to suppress the cough.
Hello, I take tylenol 4s and promethizne w/codeine both by prescription. I failed a drug test for morphine while never even touching morphine. They are sending it too a lab too clear this up. Will a lab test clear me? Or since codeine metabolizes into morphine will I be guilty of taking morphine while never touching the stuff? Can anyone tell me any information about this?
U probably failed for morphine because when u take codeine it gets processed into morphine by ur liver.. thats why u sometimes feel a high on the stuff, although I personally dont.
You need to supply proof. It is a recognised route, however I'm not sure that the truth means much to Law Enforcement in America at the moment. I think the lab should be able to tell if it's metabolites. Any experts on here? The Drug Classroom?
Codeine is good for only 1 thing.partially removing the withdrawal of stronger opioids. In fact here in Europe that’s what we primarily used it for.Especialy in France Britain and Russia. Until recently it was available quash over the counter.while in Usa everything is over regulated and as a result people in withdrawal suffer
Here in Illinois you can get Chertussin AC with Codeine in special 4 oz. bottles sold at pharmacies mainly mom and pop pharmacies It still a Schedule 5 substance. In Illinois the 4 oz. bottle can be sold OTC by the pharmacist. Chertussin A/C is considered an "Exempt Schedule 5 narcotic" so all you have to do is show your id and sign the Pseudoephedrine log and can only buy 1 bottle every 48 hours here in Illinois. Also it is exempt because it has Guafennisun (Mucinex) and make you sick.
I will take codeine ONLY for cough, b/c something in other cough meds makes me feel sick, dizzy, & nauseated, but it does neither jack nor shit for pain.
I had codeine after hand surgery last night. I went from screaming to laughing over and over. It wasn’t a good time I’m not gonna finish my prescription. I’m gonna deal with the pain
I don't know why the hospital only gave me codeine but now I know so thanks! But it didn't do anything for my pain, I had to take tramadol in high dosages which still does nothing for my pain, but I get a nice euphoria from it, it also helps my anxiety. But after seeing people addicted to it I don't want it, but I could easily get addicted to it. I'll stick to one tramadol tab and 2 grams of weed. I have to workout everyday after MPFL surgery. (Added a new ligament to stop dislocations.) Could you tell me a good painkiller which would help? My GP has only gave me tramadol, but if you could tell me about a different painkiller, a more effective one, I'd ask my GP about it.
Yeah codeine's the worst, had 4 wisdom teeth pulled out and all they'd give me for pain relief was 20 Citodon which is 500mg paracetamol/30mg codeine phosphate. Was told to take up to 4 per day, and they did next to nothing for the pain. I hate paracetamol in general as I think it's a pointless and dangerous drug, it's so stupid they put that shit in there just to "keep people from getting high off of codeine", which leads to people getting liver damage for life. Ended up getting 12 5mg Oxynorm (IR oxycodone), which actually helped, and no I did not get addicted just because i managed my pain with 60mg's of oxycodone.
hi my sister had a urgence problem and had to go to the hospital and she was in pain and they gave her codeine first because they didnt know what she had but it was so painful that codeine started to not work anymore in short times after taking it i think so she had to take morphine but she told me when she took codeine after she felt like she wanted to vomite but she told me she was scared because she felt like flying but me when imma have my wisdom teeth removed am i gonna feel no pain because of the codeine and am i gonna feel like flying😁?
It can be both since an opiate means that the drug is derived from opium and is a naturally occurring alkaloid in the plant (not synthetic/semi-synthetic), while an opioid is simply any drug that works on the opioid receptors in the brain to provide an analgesic effect (includes natural, synthetic, and semi-synthetic opioids).
I hate how everybody says drugs shouldn't make you high or feel euphoric. If I'm sick or in pain I'm taking the one that makes me feel good rather than just better. Happiness is a beneficial and positive effect for a drug that's supposed to help you. Here you have codeine that's not really strong for pain. You can take it and be so high that it doesn't matter that much that it hurts. Or you can take fentanyl in winch case you can lose a finger and not feel it but you won't feel very good. Both are addictive or shall I say cause dependence. If I'm always gonna be in pain I'd rather take the one that won't kill me and makes me smile.
Morphine dulls the pain of dying but codeine dulls the pain of living
I’M WALKEN HERE interesting observation
Are you saying that codeine is more numbing of the pains and morphine has more inflammatory properties?
@@dmay7356 you need to get off the codiene ....it makes anxiety worse ,trust me.
D May
Sorry. To hear about your "problems". However, you will never, EVER get off the merry go round until you have made the sincere decision that you want to stop.. Very simply, you're not going to stop if you don't want to......conversely, you WILL stop....if you truly, deep down inside, want to stop. I did it. You can too.....
I have the same issues, hope you’re better soon :-)
Gotta Say Seth, this is by far one of your best, most organized, informative videos!
Seriously, I'm astonished by the amount I've learned, and just barely been able to comprehend during this some/if not most of this through a first pass. I tend to have to re-listen to your videos over and over! But that's fantastic, I get so much more knowledge from it. You have a gift!
Timestamps:
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I was sick recently and after a few days my mom gave me an old bottle and said it would help my cough that I had. I took it and went to bed. I woke up the next day so freaking happy. The stuff in the bottle was a mix of Codeine and some other meds and I still was a little buzzed from the last dose because I only went to bed a few hours prior. My dumbass took 5 times the normal dose and got the best sleep I had in a long time. When I woke up to go to school I quickly googled what Codeine was and saw it was kinda like morphine. I decided to take another big dose and go to school. I was so freaking high. I kept misspelling my own name when I wrote it down and everything was just so funny and I felt really good around people. Granted this was just accidental personal experience and I didn't plan on going to school high off my face but it will make a good story.
U sound dumb boy, can't handle drugs don't be doing them foo
@derp still shouldn't be taking high doses if you shouldn't nd can't handle. But yea codeine coo
Learn. Don't b a fool. You r important
I did the same thing I took 3 and went to school feeling light asfk
Heretic Glow Me careful, I’m dependent, it can happen!
Codeine 100% reduces cough I've used it on and off for about 10 years I promise you it stops a cough, love your channel I know this information isn't coming from you directly but anybody reading this codeine is an amazing cough suppressant.
yeah. "cough."
I have whooping cough with severe pain due to the constant coughing and my doctor gave me 30 codeine tablets and it relieved my pain and cough so it does work
Ya, it reducing smoking cough when u smoke so meth but not from being sick cough
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I'm on codeine right now after wisdom tooth removal 😏
Ian Miles Chungus did you felt weird? I have the same, got wisdom tooth removed
Monika Sepp yeah it made me drowsy
@@anonymoushuman8443 hey,did you eat codeine pills?
I have codeine pills but idk how much to eat of them to feel relaxed and drowsy asf.
8mg/500mg.
You lucky bastard.
@@sigmamale2006 doubt you’ll feel anything on 8mg, I have 500/30mg and I took 4 and the effects weren’t that noticeable for me
Took a couple 20 mins ago. Feeling warm and fuzzy now. Codeine is great.
Is it the same as panadeine forte
@@Ohkeh640 I think he meant he took a couple of codeine tablets not panadine so he took just codeine
I went tripping balls
Paracetamol 500mg/Codeine 30mg. Broke my leg and got some more earlier this year.
I have only ever got the straight 30mg codeine phosphate tablets once years ago. Popped 4 at the time because why not when you have heaps of them. Never been hooked long-term on codeine though.
Oxycodone is bad. It is too good for pain and the euphoria is mental. I always found I wanted more when I have been given them to manage pain.
@@chefdownunder92True. The euphoria u get from oxycodone is so great that its hard not to want more n more. It feels too good. As u said, be careful w this one. Just agreeing w ur comment. 👍
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psychedelics do nothing for pain. expessially if used to opiates.
@@daviddowns7552 it does , depends on the type you use
I swear I'm not addicted to codeine, I'm just very committed to misusing it :')
Devoted to codeine since 27/11/2012- Now 2018 ❤
Yeah yous a junkie b
Mmmmmm Codeine
Joanna Bulik you need to try it
Me too. 😁. Life's too short not to have at least one addiction.
Use it in moderation. Be safe.
I am in love with this channel. It really appeals to my mad-scientist nature lol. Love the thoroughness! Keep it up, love the podcast as well. Will help donate when I can brother man stay safe
I think Codeine does have anti coughing effects simply because it slows down regular breathing and breathing can aggravate a bad cough. Shallower breathing, less irritation in the throat, less coughing. Right?
The studies, at least those dealing with cough from URI, have used placebo controls. Once you're comparing codeine in a blinded manner against placebo, the beneficial effect doesn't appear distinguishable from placebo. And typical doses for cough don't substantially impact respiration.
That's a bit like saying death cures a cough because you're not breathing or feeling much of anything.
@@TheDrugClassroom Somethings amiss here, there is no way a placebo would slow down the CNS. I suppose if someone thinks they have taken codiene they may relax breathing anyway and this might account for the correlation.
@@hermeticdragon2643 dihydrocodeine and tramadol
No it's not the reason is it breaks down the mucus in lungs idk the science but I abused dxm so long it wont work for me now but the lean gets rid of that shit in your lungs when smoking or sick I feel the heavy limbs and dream like state atm
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Thank you TDC, we need videos like this. You're doing a service please keep it up!
Im on codeine right now and im relaxed af
me too.:)
Where can you find codeine ?
Saphira Alicen prescription, i assume
@@kristine6558 well thank you and what do you have to say to the doctor to make sure he gives it to you?
@Lucas Chica-Taylor lol I don't have a drug dealer
I always thought codiene was prescribed more often than morphine because of its oral bioavailability. Doctors don't typically like when patients snort or shoot their drugs.
Oral morphine is available and is sometimes now being used in place of codeine. And alternative opioids are also fine, as are NSAIDs and paracetamol. The use cases for codeine are pretty limited.
GAllium Yttrium.. Yes, I thought that because morphines bioavailability is 10% (90% gets destroyed in the stomach) that they convert it to codeine which has a 90% bioavailability. Codeine cannot be injected because it is lethal this way (not because of tolerance or anything, just from the toxicity of this way of administration). Also yes you cant snort codeine as it needs to be metabolized in the liver.
The Drug Classroom... As a pure CODEISAN (spain's pure codeine preparation of 28.7mg per pill shown in this video) addict, often times taking more than a gram a day (at least 6 hours between doses so my CYP2D6 can regenerate, this video was very accurate. Thank you very much for your work and insight.
bkit170 While shooting codein IV is dangerous, injecting it IM even in high doses is not a problem.
Addicts dont usually im they usually iv or skin pop, im probably hurts more and you need a long needle.
GAlliumYttrium I wouldn't use any medication if I had to inject it, snorting doesn't seem half as bad as Injecting
I'm stunned to hear that codeine is basically ineffective as an anti-tussive. I've been susceptible to URIs all of my life and have always found that codeine was hella effective, sometimes being the only thing that would control my cough, for 4-6 hours. Hard to believe that the placebo effect could so consistently work even in cases of severe bronchitis and pneumonia, but stranger things have happened, I suppose.
Blingy McDaddy true, but looks like the studies don't bear it out...weird
His research lacks actual field research, and appears to be straight textbook. I find the comment section FAR more informative, and honest.
Exactly thinking the same thing. I got codeine for my cough thats lasting 6 weeks now. It works 4 hours max. against my cough. People around me also notice that I cough less then before. Not all of them know I take codeine. If it does not work or is a placebo, I should have noticed. It does not cure me however but does fight the symptons.
Are you kidding me???!?!?! Some of the codeine converts to morphine. NOT a placebo affect. Hence the term "prodrug" for codeine...
James Franko they are talking about how studies show the efficacy of codeine for cough is no more effective than placebo.
I'm going to discuss codeine further in another video, specifically focusing on why it shouldn't be widely used. There's no good justification for codeine's widespread use and in some cases, it actually causes harm.
Prescribing practices need to change, especially given we have enough alternatives to codeine to make the switch.
The Drug Classroom Isn't even just DXM much more effective at stopping cough? Why would an addictive substance be given out for common URI? Not to mention the popularization of "lean" in pop culture. Why would you take something at a massive dose just to have part of it become morphine?? And then take promethazine to stop the itch/stomach problems and also combine alcohol???? I can understand if someone wanted to CWE a bunch of codeine but it just seems too dependent on metabolism to be sure how will it affect you. Meh, to each their own I suppose. Another case for full drug legalization and regulation.
+Shan “Aron75” Santee 60mg is a pretty big dose. Especially if you have no tolerance
The Drug Classroom this drug is great with a THC combo
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Codeine definitely helps with coughs. When I have a cold with a nasty cough and can’t sleep at night with the cough continually keeping me awake taking codeine actually does stop this and allows for a decent nights sleep
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Exactly,espesially my homeCountry Finland has
the seasons like cold winter when cough medicine is needed,especially if you move warm indoor out to cold all the time a
nd vice versa. That "research" is complete bs. All opioids ease coughing reflex
Who else laughed when he said "purple drank" in his serious tone
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Wow, that is pretty deep.
I was chuckling to myself when he said it, opened the comments and saw your comment lmao
Haha me
@@mukhumor go fuck yourself, its a funny observation nothing more.
Was on codeine a few times after some bad slams in the skatepark (herniated disc, broken ribs) and it did its job. I felt really cozy, even looked forward to taking them. I kind of miss it lol.
I'm a skater of 25 years so high pain threshold... On coedine now for herniated disc and don't need the booze anymore for the pain relief.
@@roodfooddoods i took a tylenol for tmd and it just kinda helped, took some codeine and i could finally sleep without feeling like someone was digging a knife through my jaw
Codeine helps me through the pain of my lonely life, i only take low doses at a time, 2 tablets = 60mg in Australia, i used to get drunk to ease my loneliness, but i reckon alcohol is worse & of course for your liver, Cheers, from Australia 😂
I’ve just let go of alcohol from a steady drinker everyday for about 16 years. The withdrawals are frightening, I went cold turkey. The withdrawals seem to be slowly passing but my motivation is still down and sleeping is near impossible. Vitamin B tablets, green smoothies, milk thistle, multi vitamins and the love from my wife helps A LOT. Also from Australia. Friends are overrated, learn to love yourself.
Wow that’s crazy as hell im abit of a slow metaboliser but I have to take 8 30mg codeines to get buzzed and I’ve never actually had a dependency problem with any drug to have such a high tolerance
@@thetalkingelement - I do love myself, I even make love to myself, meditation is great these days, I don't need drugs, I'm getting old, Cheers 🌞
@@theking6191 - if I took 8 Codiene pills these days, I'd most likely drop dead 🤐
Nasir pyro exactly what I have to take 2 wouldn’t do dick all
Told my dad once I was having trouble sleeping and feel like I have not had any deep sleep, he gave me a pill and said take it befor you go sleep turns out it was some prescribed opioid type pill it basically took me to dream land for like 14 hrs And I had never felt more recharge before, he was taking them for chronic back pain, im glad he only would allow me to have one Id be popping them like mad lol
Probably zopiclone or diazepam
It helps with me pain and makes me feel amazing at the same time.
yeah codeine is my favorite..
Cause its an opiod you crack head, get some help
I bet u feel amazing lol.
@ironmike southern im not a junkie like him or you, I dont need help
@ironmike southern your username is "IronMike" that in it proves your junkie state of mind, and you're defending another junky online.
I would love to hear more about codeine addiction. Some people that have the right genes are more prone to it. Great video.
Itchiness is the worst part of any opioid, when I was addicted to Vicodin I would ALWAYS itch my nose till it was raw and sore, I would say it is the worst side effect of taking opioids recreationally.
I’ve just been prescribed Dihydrocodiene for pain for a Herniated Disc Bulge. I’m in so much pain I can’t sit, stand or lay down without screaming in pain. This is the third time I’ve had a Herniated Disc Bulge in six months and I wish they’d send me for an MRI scan to see why. I’m a full time wheelchair user after a fall five years ago and breaking many bones I’m unable to bend my knee and I have foot drop so trying to transfer is agony.
Pills with 12.8mg of codeine in combination with paracetamol or ibuprofen are otc here in Ireland good for colds and flu and the likes!
I've just got back from Spain from a short holdiay and picked up the most painfull tonsalitis ive ever had I was given antibiotic and 500mg/30mg paracetamol/codeine. It's crazy strong I swallowed 2 after an hour i could feel the swelling in my throat but had no pain there at all also my all over aching went away, I can see why they are addictive. I'm glad I've only got one box of them. I'm not going to use them more than three days probably just two really but it meant I wasn't laid in bed for 2 days straight on holiday
codeine is amazing for coughs, you CWE a large dose and an irritable cough thats been hell for hours goes away within minutes. i have way too much experiance with codeine and one thing it does do is temporarily suppress a cough.
At least with cough associated with URI, the evidence pretty consistently finds that both codeine and placebo will reduce cough significantly post-administration. The difference between placebo and codeine isn't significant, indicating whatever change is noticed is a placebo effect. The studies mostly all point in the same direction on this topic.
Some of the studies that showed an effect with codeine weren't controlled. Once placebo controls were added, the effect disappeared.
first off i really appreciate the response man,
i dont know about studies, just experiance. i unfortunatly had a serious codeine habit for 5+ years i live in a 1st world country where at one time i could buy a gram of codeine for under $15 over the counter, theyve regulated it somewhat but its still OTC. it was not placebo. as soon as the effects started wearing off the cough came back terribly. 2 doctors and countless pharmacists (i have a few friends that studied medicine) have said codeine and DHC (to a much lesser extent) are the best cough suppressants on the market for a dry irritable cough.
the codeine ceiling dose is either a myth or some people are lucky/unlucky enough for more of it to cross the BBB or metabolize it extremely well. i know of someone that was up to a 3500mg+ daily addiction and it killed him. he didnt wake up one day, he actually overdosed on codeine which we all thought was pretty much impossible. this guys addiction and overdose is documented on one of the biggest drug websites on the internet (they focus on HR, im sure you know it.)
i know youre a smart guy and know you're shit but respectfully i disagree with the studies. ive seen it work for way too many people. maybe they were testing it at low medicinal doses and i assure you we didnt CWE low doses, ha. the high dose may have made the difference.
although i didnt feel a high, i definitely felt very tired and relaxed
Amazing video, Vector truly is our lord and savior. (sorry i was late to the video, was away from wifi for a week.)
Codeine is reason not to give people better opioids.
Better stay away from opioids, NSAIDs have been proven to work better without the psychoactive effects from opioids/opiates.
+Bok Ibuproden paracetamol or asprin have done nothing to my pain ever
Bok you are an idiot! Should someone needing emergency surgery or have terminal cancer be denied anesthesia? Anesthesia has opioids in it!
no im not saying that. Im more referring to addiction potential and social harm like dependence. maybe if you werent so close minded and would think for a second. You very well know that the USA is having an Opioid crisis. Im saying the best medical route to prevent it from continuing is to reduce the use of these pharmaceuticals as we are just learning now what damage they have caused to society. Opioids are fantastic drugs but are VERY addictive and dependent. Back in the 80s there was an issue with a drug called Methaqualone. This drug, also known by brand as Qualuudes were prescribed to people as a sleep aid. They at first were easily obtained OTC so people began discovering its recreational use. Soon the FDA had to ban the drug and it was scheduled but it already caused damage. In Pharamacology we look for substances that are safe both physically and psychologically.
Good day
Addiction doesn´t start in the drugs. Inorder for someone who takes an opioid once to become addicted they need other problems. The opioid crisis only exists because people are doing street opioids instead of prescription opioids. There was no "opioid epidemic" when prescription opioids where at their height but now when people can´t get those they turn to heroin witch is cut with fent so they die but there would be no such problem if opioids were legal and regulated that way but now people take every overdose from unregulated opioids and use that as evidence that regulated opioids are the absolute worst.
I was given this recently after I had a sporting accident.
I never want to take it again, id rather feel slightly uncomfortable then feel like one of the walking dead.
Thank you, the videos you make are essential to any research for any video I ever do.
This one especially taught me a lot. 🙏
In Poland, u can get codeine without prescription, that's why many people here use it as narcotic.
Only if it's combined with another drug and only in very small doses
Codeine has been a blessing for my chronic back pain every time I have a flare-up. I just take the necessary dose a day to keep my pain levels tolerable. Just 60 mg or 2 tablets of 30 mg per day can be enough although I might need a bit more but rarely.
All in all it has always been my rescue analgesic to get me out of acute pain. Regardless of everything you said, which I can't dispute, codeine does work for me.
That’s the same with me. I have Chronic ingrown toenails and have to have surgery on them every six months and I usually just take over to counter medications but I have codeine in back up
Bruh youtube shouldn’t take down these videos because what if someone wants to try something for the first time and ends up hurting themselves or not understanding dosages etc.
who else watching this while sippin
Like it's beer🍺?
@@lalopedraza3148 im in london so im screamin cheers
I miss those lovely T3's and 4's.
Why do opioid agonists such as naltrexone cause withdrawal in opioid tolerant users but when administered to an opioid naive individual there's no withdrawal when Naloxone blocks our own endogenous endorphins? Amazing videos btw
Are really bad headaches a side effect of stopping use. I’m been clean 3 weeks no issue I was ready to walk away and I feel amazing but are headaches a side effect like bad headaches
david Ash I am pregnant and I have my Dr indicated for my headache put I am worried to use !!
Ceilling dose is misunderstood, it is about painkiller effect, recreational effects still increase which is seen with growing tolerance, say person needs 800mg to get desired effects, dosing 1000mg will give better effect. Improvements are really small but they do happen. Speaking from experience of many people (myself included), sadly I can't provide any research to back that up.
You finally made a video on codeine !!
The opiate itch is actually pretty pleasant. Easily my favourite drug.
Can you do one on ativan (lorazepam)
i want it for excessive sleepiness since it contribute to more hypocretin. also for the pain that life is.
TDC, may I ask what your education background is? You are a very good speaker due the fact you seem to understand what you speak about and that doesn’t come from just reading off a Wiki page
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Creek some lean green
It's crap , get some go drugs lol
@@brandongamer4242 seriously that stuff is crap, go get the good shit.
well thats pretty damn gay! get some real painkillers and rail a fattie
Doctor prescribed me 60mg plus 1g of paracetamol every 6hrs because of my sciatica (hurts like hell). The side effects are bad (vomiting/ nausea/ itching) and at first I don’t understand why people get addicted. But after a few days (the pain goes away), I experience the state of IDGAF. It helps me calm my nerves (anxiety), gives me a good sleep that even zopiclone cant deliver, and yeah dreaminess. I hope the pain in my sciatica goes away soon as I am afraid I might get addicted to this feeling!!! 😭😭😭
Thank You 🩺🙏
This is the best cough suppressant and pain reliever (Tylenol #4) I’ve used.
Lol best pain and cough I have to take about 30 30 mg tablets and it does nothing for pain and a bit for cough I can't overdose because I can't turn the codiene into morphine that's why I take that much codiene because it's weak and I can't metabolize it in to morphine good so to get some relief I take 30 tablets to get some relief it's weak
But I like the feeling of drowsiness:_
T3 doesn't do much for a toothache so why do dentist give.
Codeine is an opioid plate only at high doses of over 80 mg, which has a euphoric state followed by drowsiness and the time of action is very short 2, up to 3 hours ... are less harsh than tramadol but, tramadol is a longer action, my opinion
I love this channel, it shows the madical and recreational information of any substance it covers
I would love more research chems, i would love one on 5-meo-mipt
it stops my cough dead in the tracks
Probably what you’re looking for:
Dose- 9:15
I love promethazine with codeine
Thanks for your content Seth
you could really broaden your audience by using less jargon. Very Informative! but just frustrating from a non-medical perspective to have to look up so many medical terms in order to under stand. I am a Cop married to an Occupational Therapist, we have learned that plan talk reaches a wider audience.. just advise from a fellow Tuber!
I love your RUclips channel, great stuff, Cheers 🇦🇺 from Australia ✌️
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I take a combination drug with 8mg Coedine and paracetomol in it for menstutal pain, and I find it helps a LOT in relieving the pain, and paracetomol on its own doesn't do the same- Is it bad for me to take, should I look for an alternative?
When I was in high school, I got my wisdom teeth out and the ortho prescribed me some codeine. I saved a couple of the pills I had after I recovered and took them late one night to see how fun it was. I woke up the next morning groggy, disoriented, and dissociating, only to find out we had state testing at school that day. Midway through the test I had to go sit outside with a trash can because of how nauseous I was. 1/10 because of the funny story I got out of it but definitely a terrible drug lol
Interesting. I recently tried around 150mg and had a very mild, functional opiate buzz for 5 hours or so with no after effects
Off the script I know. Question. I have a question about oxycodone 20mg I.R capsules. My mate snorts the capsules , pure white powder , 60mg up each nasal . Is this a high dose.
BTW. This happens 3times daily. They are prescribed , But is it a waste using them like this ? Thanks
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It is my personal experience that hydrocodone does indeed alleviate cough and it does so consistently. It has been prescribed many times and every time it stopped the coughing.
is a strong dose 150-200mg ??? most people pour up 200 - 400 mg if you aint sippin it muddy you not really getting high you just getting sedated (not saying u should do high doses like that ) but 150-200mg is not high dose
The treatment between tramadol is stronger, at least direct release, or prolonged release is he and 200 mg?????
Question???? Is it the Oral taking of these painkillers is what causes damage to the liver? What if these painkillers are directly injected into your veins, is it still going to be a limit of days you can take it? I know 7 days is maximum for most painkillers....but wondering if their is a different effect if not taken orally??
There is not a seven day limit for opioids that is related to liver damage. Opioids can be used for a prolonged period without liver toxicity.
There actually is a good reason to give codeine PO instead of morphine, as most all of the codeine is usable by the body PO whereas approximately only 10% of oral morphine is. Approximately 90% of oral morphine is inactivated in the first pass liver pathway.
I was born in the 70s and I still remember codeine based cough syrup was a major problem in my country during the 80s and 90s which lead to a complete ban of the substance.
Could you do something like Temazapam?
Codien isn't used or marketed as a cough medicine bro. It's used as a depressesent pairs with an expectorant. The expectorant is what is used to suppress the cough.
Hello, I take tylenol 4s and promethizne w/codeine both by prescription. I failed a drug test for morphine while never even touching morphine. They are sending it too a lab too clear this up. Will a lab test clear me? Or since codeine metabolizes into morphine will I be guilty of taking morphine while never touching the stuff? Can anyone tell me any information about this?
U probably failed for morphine because when u take codeine it gets processed into morphine by ur liver.. thats why u sometimes feel a high on the stuff, although I personally dont.
You need to supply proof. It is a recognised route, however I'm not sure that the truth means much to Law Enforcement in America at the moment.
I think the lab should be able to tell if it's metabolites.
Any experts on here? The Drug Classroom?
It's almost as effective as booze for pain relief for me (herniated disc and sciatica)... In fact it helped me quit booze...
Codeine is good for only 1 thing.partially removing the withdrawal of stronger opioids.
In fact here in Europe that’s what we primarily used it for.Especialy in France Britain and Russia.
Until recently it was available quash over the counter.while in Usa everything is over regulated and as a result people in withdrawal suffer
150mg is a strong dose? I've started with this dose, no I'm taking 300 once a month
Here in Illinois you can get Chertussin AC with Codeine in special 4 oz. bottles sold at pharmacies mainly mom and pop pharmacies It still a Schedule 5 substance. In Illinois the 4 oz. bottle can be sold OTC by the pharmacist. Chertussin A/C is considered an "Exempt Schedule 5 narcotic" so all you have to do is show your id and sign the Pseudoephedrine log and can only buy 1 bottle every 48 hours here in Illinois. Also it is exempt because it has Guafennisun (Mucinex) and make you sick.
What about in Cali 2021?
Well thanks to the Muchinex then one would not want to take much of that. Makes sense
Lovely and full video Seth!
The best and most recommended opiate (for those new to opioids) is Kratom.
All should give Kratom at least one try ;)
I take 10 caps of red vein Bali for sleep every night because nothing else will work
It can be extremely effective for RLS symptoms, but the good will never outweigh the bad.
So you're telling me codeine and oxy will enhance each others effects?
It's good for asthma speaking from experience.
I will take codeine ONLY for cough, b/c something in other cough meds makes me feel sick, dizzy, & nauseated, but it does neither jack nor shit for pain.
is a codeine overdose possible if it has to be metabolised to take effect?
Yes, of course. It metabolizes to morphine, many people have died from codeine overdoses.
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The main reason all these preparations hurt most of us is the ASA or Tylenol .
Codeine hasn't been available OTC in the US since 2018 and might not be OTC in Canada in the coming years as of 2023
I had codeine after hand surgery last night. I went from screaming to laughing over and over. It wasn’t a good time I’m not gonna finish my prescription. I’m gonna deal with the pain
I don't know why the hospital only gave me codeine but now I know so thanks! But it didn't do anything for my pain, I had to take tramadol in high dosages which still does nothing for my pain, but I get a nice euphoria from it, it also helps my anxiety. But after seeing people addicted to it I don't want it, but I could easily get addicted to it. I'll stick to one tramadol tab and 2 grams of weed.
I have to workout everyday after MPFL surgery. (Added a new ligament to stop dislocations.)
Could you tell me a good painkiller which would help? My GP has only gave me tramadol, but if you could tell me about a different painkiller, a more effective one, I'd ask my GP about it.
Yeah codeine's the worst, had 4 wisdom teeth pulled out and all they'd give me for pain relief was 20 Citodon which is 500mg paracetamol/30mg codeine phosphate. Was told to take up to 4 per day, and they did next to nothing for the pain. I hate paracetamol in general as I think it's a pointless and dangerous drug, it's so stupid they put that shit in there just to "keep people from getting high off of codeine", which leads to people getting liver damage for life.
Ended up getting 12 5mg Oxynorm (IR oxycodone), which actually helped, and no I did not get addicted just because i managed my pain with 60mg's of oxycodone.
sipping on codeine syrup
I thought the ceiling effect comes from lack of synthesis in the liver after the needed enzymes are used up?!
Watched this before taking tilenol with codeine and wtf is wierd my screen is like moving
Okay so I’ve seen on one of those Chinese sites you can buy raw dimethylmorphine but what is it’s usage apart from intermediator
Yeaaa, thank you
hi my sister had a urgence problem and had to go to the hospital and she was in pain and they gave her codeine first because they didnt know what she had but it was so painful that codeine started to not work anymore in short times after taking it i think so she had to take morphine but she told me when she took codeine after she felt like she wanted to vomite but she told me she was scared because she felt like flying but me when imma have my wisdom teeth removed am i gonna feel no pain because of the codeine and am i gonna feel like flying😁?
Isnt codeine an opiate and not an opioid?
It's somewhat problematic to call it either, but if you're going to, both work.
It can be both since an opiate means that the drug is derived from opium and is a naturally occurring alkaloid in the plant (not synthetic/semi-synthetic), while an opioid is simply any drug that works on the opioid receptors in the brain to provide an analgesic effect (includes natural, synthetic, and semi-synthetic opioids).