How Soon is Now? - Mix Engineer REACTS to The Smiths!
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Love this, super educational. Not a shallow analysis, this is the most comprehensive "audio engineer reacts" video I've seen. When you contextualize the production and mixing, by explaining the historical and technological quirks, that really brings your analysis to life.
Love this new series. Showing how to breakdown a mix like this has opened my ears better towards other songs/genres. Giving me a new appreciation for the art of mixing well.
I'm sure someone pointed this out but this song is based on the Bo Diddley rift.
This was a really fun one. Thanks
Hi Adam according to Johnny they used fender twins and synchronised the tremolo on a reamped signal and yeah it took forever
I do wonder how much is hearsay mate, I’ve also heard him say in other interviews that they were AC30s - and you can hear from what I’ve isolated that they absolutely weren’t synchronized, that left side is out by a mile! So I wonder if he’s telling tall tales for a laugh…
@@adamsteelproducer he did tell me personally but like you said he could be having a laugh
Well fair enough! It probably was fenders then and he was having a windup with whoever he told about the AC30s, but the synchronization thing might be something he tried but Stephen Street gave up maybe? That right side is spot on but the left is all over the show so who knows at this point…
@@adamsteelproducer yeah your right its all over the place, cool tune to do though, you'll be stepping on Rick Beato's toes soon
@@adamsteelproducer Is it not just half time on the left (relatively speaking ... with regards to the tremolo being analogue and/or not beat sync'd?) My gut feeling is that he was aiming for half time on the left, but without it being tempo sync'd, it is just approximate.
14:57 I don't think Andy Rourke EVER used a Rickenbacker, he mostly played a Precision, but he almost always used a pick which is what gave it that brightness.
Maybe you're thinking of Johnny's Rickenbacker 330 from the "This Charming Man" video.
I think I’m suffering the Mandela effect, I could’ve sworn blind he used to play a 4003. Just watched the video for “This Charming Man” where he definitely played a Rick- and no he didn’t! My life is a lie, what is this madness 😂
@@adamsteelproducer maybe you're confusing him with Mani? Although he used a 4005. Bruce Foxton, perhaps? It's this heat, it does things to your brain!
According to Marr it was 4 amps. And they were Fender amps: "I put down the rhythm track on an Epiphone Casino through a Fender Twin Reverb without vibrato. Then we played the track back through four old Twins, one on each side."
It apparently took hours to get the effect running through the whole track, as they did it all by ear - they'd set the tremolo speed on the amps, start the tapes running, then if one amp started to get out they'd adjust it manually to try to get it back in time.
Great. Reminds me of Charmed, the power of three.
I also love the Smiths - There Is A Light That Never Goes Out, and Nightswimming by REM.
What songs would you like to see us react to next?
Southpaw by Morrissey
Literally just did a song with Morrissey in, it’s going to be a long while before we see him again
Disintegration by The Cure
@@rollandjoeseph Yes!
Would love to see a breakdown of The Last Goodbye, Jeff Buckley.
I’ll put it on the ever growing list
When doing these sort of assessments be mindful of the version you listen to as remasters tend to be lesser.
Lesser? Nah that’s nostalgia talking.
Are you 100% sure there was no sample used because it was the early 80s? Samplers like the fairlight had been around for over a decade prior, and Steely Dan had already used sampled drums to tighten their sound on records like Gaucho during the 70s.
I wouldn't be surprised if a drummer was playing along with a drum machine, considering the snare, and the layered hi hats/shakers etc
100% sure. I can hear the inconsistency on the snare hits, it’s a dead giveaway when I hear it compared to something with samples on
@@adamsteelproducer yeah, but then you'll get the variation regardless when a drummer plays along with a drum machine or samples, compared to a singular sample making up a sound. What do you think about that possibility?
No when it’s a blended sample there’s still a part of it that’s perfectly consistent, and I’ve learnt to hear that. I’m happy to be wrong, but I think Mike Joyce was just a consistent player
@@adamsteelproducer Just went down a mini rabbit hole, and when they were working with Steven Street, they were often recording a section of percussion and looping it, and then playing along with that, for particular snare and floor tom sounds among others. So technically could be playing along with the samples. That and Mike's style of drumming could sound pretty consistent with slight inconsistencies from the playing over the samples, plus the randomness of each hit in the samples to an extent, when using a loop compared to using individual sample repeated. I'm inclined to think this is how they did it
@@adamsteelproducer I work with samples all the time in a predominantly sample based genre, although often work with loops layered with other samples in ways to ensure things are not consistently the same throughout each hit, which is why considering all the info, I'm still leaning towards it sounding like samples were used, albeit a loop and not one shots edit: along with drums being played along to varying samples within a loop
Thank god you're doing something other then metal like the smith's, great choice! Metal is so overdone imho...to each his own I guess😒
Teenage me would never have thought they'd be leaving a 👍 on anything Morrissey related. A testament to your analysis over his singing Mr S. :-D
Hahaha he’s not everyone’s favorite!
Morrissey is great.
a comment froma russian viewer - one of the worst Smiths songs ever
Ok