[Q/A] The Story Of Ancient India: From The Deep South To North | Raj Vedam | Breaking India Forces
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Dr Raj Vedam answers to audience questions following his talk on "The Story Of Ancient India: Forces Allied Against Indian History & Story Of Deep South".
In the talk, the speaker deep dives in ancient southern history and demolishes the Dravidian claims in favor of a pan-Indian identity. He analyzes the latest available papers on genetics, archaeology (2019), and roundup along with past evidence of what they imply for the ancient history of India.
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Part 1 - • The Story Of Ancient I...
Part 2: • The Story Of Ancient I...
Part 3: • The Story Of Ancient I...
About Speaker: -
Dr. Raj Vedam, MSEE, PhDEE, works at the confluence of applied mathematics, engineering, algorithms, and computer science. Using tools of Archeo-Genetics, archeo- astronomy and archaeology, and evidence of knowledge transfers from ancient India, the speaker has put forward a strong thesis with verifiable facts, on the antiquity of the Indian Civilisation, and the many discoveries made my the ancients.
Dr. Raj Vedam is a co-founder of the think-tank, Indian History Awareness and Research, and resides in Houston, Texas. He can be reached at rajvedam[at]yahoo[dot]com and on Facebook at / raj.vedam.1
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As a devout student of my Maori culture here in Aotearoa, (land of the long white cloud), New Zealand, I am amazed by his ability to unlock celestial movements and other knowledge from traditional stories.
I have become fascinated by Indian culture triggered by reading the classics several years ago, Mahabharata and Ramayana. Kailash temple and Ellora caves are such exquisite examples of supreme artists.
True, you got it.
This man Raj vedam himself a treasure from Indic society to the world..
Wish you would work with HRD and PMO Govt of India and let your ideas germinate in young Indian minds
If that happens I will be the happiest person on the earth
This man is a legend.
Great presentation Dr Raj Vadam
Excellent presentation. Should be taken to the next level. Not restricted to youtube alone
I’m shocked to know that the history taught in our schools is a manufactured product of the 20th century by foreign ideologies and does not take into account the ancient works of our own land.
This man is Rock star. I love his passion and has a very curious mind. Thank u very much sir for giving us alternative narrative of our precious and unparalleled history with concepts and proofs. I believe u sir that our Vedas particularly Rig veda is very very old . I always felt our Vedas, Upanishads ,puranas and ithihsas are way much older than 3000 to 4000 BC.
I believe worship of Shiva existed atleast 15000- 10000 years ago.
And in Ramayana and Mahabharata both sages ( vyasa and valmiki ) narrated the turning points of the story with celestial positions of stars and compared to moon and also gave detailed descriptions of geographical features where the particular incidents occurred. Yogic knowledge was much much older than puranas itself because the characters in the puranas and ithihasas practiced yoga. sruti -- oral transmission of knowledge existed before man learnt to write on palm leaves and tree barks. So our culture and literature is way way older than we can imagine. We have to remember that all the Islamic invasions and invasions before that burnt most of the writings in our Indian sub- continent.
If all those would have been with us we would have been surprised even more how our cultural- past was more older and more richer than current estimations.
Absolutely correct. How do the barbarians who burnt libraries, universities and books and killed those that they called infidels and kufars and idolators still walk with their heads even in the modern world. This fact should be emphasised in all these talks. Thanks to the deprecatingly called oral tradition and dedicated individuals at least part of Sanatan Dharma has been preserved. Just think of what a wonder it would have been before such destruction.
He is a wonderful Indo historian with such in depth knowledge
He is a gem for present day Indians
Great work, Sir. Young Indians should do their part by doing research on our ancient scriptures to decode the hidden knowledge in it.
Dr Raj Vedam is so right. The proof lies in cultural values and languages. The only prayer he needs is AYUSHMAN BHAV
Excellent ur a treasure of knowledge
Well done , Sir.
Raj Vedam Sir, you are GREAT 🙏
This guy is my favourite my favourite indologist he has a deeper insight even deeper than Nilesh nilkanth oak
God bless him , long n healthy life !!!🙏🙏
There is another story at least it is here in Kerala which says Parasuram in fight broke the tusk of Ganesha.
Even in maharashtra .. infact i only knew this version of story
I'm a sindhi in rajasthan. I also had only heard of this version.
Very informative and enlightening. Thank you Raj Vedam ji.
I want to “fund” your life living long and long, from a Bangalorean in USA
Thank u Sir for your research and hard work. Please keep it up to bring out hidden gems of our civilization
Real meaning of Arya as the Noble one, can also be seen profusely in Dhammapada.
Great work Dr.Vedam. looking forward to more like this!
Excellent answers. So much to learn.
You guys mindless looser because the topic of something justify the theory of invention of Arya or Dravid is wrong does not the way to destroy all history.
And Krishna never said that Varna is transforming way in Bhagavat Gita
Even He is not expert of about Karna cheating to Parsurama for education of war, but he claims that all the history is a story to teaching people who don't know about the science, what a joke. they are trying to put all rubbish only for dining Theory of Arya and Dravid ,
@@satyakadarpan1009 moron! you are a christian disinformation agent spamming Srijan Talks. Moderator, please block this moron.
Both Rohini and Agastya are stars. When Agastya canopus star rises indian ocean water is seen to calm down, hence the story.
It's a good step to decode the mythological stories.It requires patience. It's better to represent it in Hindi also so that common man can understand it.I hope it will revolutionize common people🙏🙏
Around 14:20 ans 1: bhishma didn't allow Karna to fight with arjun because contest was between kuru prince along with that with a motive to distance karna from Royal affairs.
Ans 2: parshuram said he teach only bhramins because his father got killed by someone from kshatriya clan. So he vowed not let any members of warriors clan to learn these skills. There were other things which were important so we shouldn't narrate what's shown on Television, cause it's not true.
I tried to answer his Q just for sake he asked
@Mahesh Iyer:
You have not understood what the speaker is saying about wisdom encoded in stories, and made a shallow observation. You should see more of the speaker's talks to understand his points. Our rishis and yogis indeed had tremendous spiritual powers. That does not mean that every Purana story you read is literal. It is silly and irrational and you lose sight of the intent of the stories, and become no better than a Christian fundamentalist who claims that every word of bible is true.
There is some history in Puranas, but nothing in Hindu theology requires Purana stories to be historical or literal, and their interpretation as science lessons or encoding dharma-principles/morals makes us stronger, not weaker. The speaker is on the dot with his interpretation, and should speak more on the wisdom behind several stories.
Don't try to make Hinduism a history-centric religion that can easily be demolished by science. Read Rajiv Malhotra's Being Different, and become more informed in your understanding.
Questioner at19:0 about globalness and not Indic, etc. More likely it is due to the Sanatan idea (Advaita Philosophy) of how everything in the cosmos is a manifestation of the supreme consciousness (Brahman). Therefore, it is not synthetic or contrived for world conquest. Lokah samasta sukhino bhavantu etc is deeply embedded only in Indic Culture.
A great cogent speaker
depracating questions.. when will Indians ask direct questions!!
I have heard a story which said Parshuram threw his axe that made the water retreat and bared the lands from present day Maharashtra to Kerala
Hi someone asked: why does the Vedic texts refer to mostly locations towards north of India ...and I’ve always thought the same !! Can someone pls share the link of the Tedtalk which Mr. Vedham refers too ? He says he has answered that in his Tedtalk
The question on specific origin of vedas is very good, unfortunately this issue is bring glossed over.
Rig Veda was composed by Puru-Bharatas. Later others in India, first in North and then in the South, adopted / accepted the vedas and thus Bharat became Bharat.
The last Hymn of the Rigveda, Mandala 10, hymn 191 is called the hymn of Unity.
I believe that this hymn, and all the thought and action around it, before and after it was composed, were responsible for the unification of Bharat.
Very nice !! Sir can you kindly study the theories of aasevagam and the theories and etymological proof provided by the channel Tamil chintanalayar
Dronacharya was appointed to teach the princes only, not everyone from the kingdom. Why it shouldn't be one of the reason why Drona refused Karna.
When gurgaon(a tech city in haryana) was name changed to gurugram, these foreign ideology people came and said that why to name it gurgaon(another name of dronacharya). While dronacharya took a thumb of a "DALIT" boy eklavya.
Now they are in a trap.
Eklavya told in his introduction to dronacharya that his father is a military chief in neighbour state.
So, either dalits were oppressed by brahmins(like dronacharya) or dalits were made military generals & high rank officials.
So conclusion is that we must decolonise our minds from these foreign powers like communists, christian missionaries, islamists.
Time to repair our distorted history
Dravidian is not a word opposite of Aryan. Aryan means people of noble qualities and learned scholars. The Brahmins in South India are referred to as "Pancha-Dravida" and the priests / Brahmins in North India are referred to as "Panch-Gauda" or Panch-Gaura".
Our rishis and yogis have had tremendous spiritual powers and have accomplished things that not many devas and devis would even contemplate. Hence reducing the act of Agastya drying up the ocean (today's Sahara Desert) to an astronomical event is not only presumptuous but demeaning as well.
Challenging the western indologists and their false narratives is one thing, but reducing "all" our historical events to astronomical observations and story telling is not justifiable
You have not understood what the speaker is saying about wisdom encoded in stories, and made a shallow observation. Our rishis and yogis indeed had tremendous spiritual powers. That does not mean that every Purana story you read is literal. It is silly and irrational and you lose sight of the intent of the stories, and become no better than a Christian fundamentalist who claims that every word of bible is true. There is some history in Puranas, but nothing in Hindu theology requires Purana stories to be historical or literal, and their interpretation as science lessons or encoding dharma-principles/morals makes us stronger, not weaker. Don't try to make Hinduism a history-centric religion that can easily be demolished by science. Read Rajiv Malhotra's Being Different.
@@dakupotato8074 Well said! I think it's the Abrahamic gaze that makes such shallow observations.
Please highlight about the birth of Veda viyasa ?
Varna means the different hues of the society.Thanks
Really?!! Show just one primary reference for this to prove you are not a blabbering mind-colonized fool.
@@samdidymus5476 shut up! Converted idiot.
When will be your next discourse.
Last question: Indian temples also found in Malaysia/Indonesia.
16:00 the answer to this question is that parshoram (whos real name i dont remember) was a son of a bhrman who was murdered by a king(who was kshatriya) then parshoram did a tapasya and asked lord shiva to grant him strength to avenge his fathers death(who was a bhrman and in that time the only weapon bhramns had was their knowledge and kshtriyas were warrior race) so lord shiva gave him an axe(in sanskrit parsho is axe) and hence he was known as parshoram thereonwards. then he went on destroying kshratriyas for generations but later realised that this killing wont end unless i install dharam in this warrior race. so his first student was devvratt(aka bhishmapitama) son of a kshtriya and river ganga not fully kshatriya nor bhrman and i think it was writtin somewhere that ganga mata requested parshoram to train his son and make his a good person and he trainned him to become a warrior and presented him with the gift of gyan sadbuddhi which enabled bhishma to rule without any ahankaar and for their people by law(during then hastinapur kingdom had laws like a farmers son should become a farmer because this enables the occupation to be carried on and the teaching that he will get from his parents will save the tradition and with time a person can get better being trained since childhood, maybe the population was not as increasing as today during then ). he knew that kshatriyas cannot be the keepers on knowledge and power at the same time they will use it in their favor and command and conquer so he only trained bhrmans.
Please clarify, when dried up Vedic saraswati river?
Nt even single question abt Tamil and abt this presentation...sad
These guys are Sanskrit fanatics
Funniest statement: In India we had Jatis, not castes!😃😃
Like saying In India we had Gau, not cattle. Cattles are Europeans.
Do you even understand what Jati is? If not then the joke is on you. Ha ha...
You are an ignorant person who don't have that intelectual capabilities to understand things. 🤦♂️
Bos indicus and bos Taurus are actually two different battles
Do read
Jati / Varna : Is socio / economic groups, not hierarchical structure as in Europe and western world.
I wonder why there were no kings from southern India participated in Mahabharat war ? It's shows only aryavartha kings who are almost related to one another from Gandhar to Magadh.
Is there any Indian puranic record of this 200 years of draught happening / happened
Please check the word ...ADDHYA BRAHMIN...In Malayalam we say ADDHYA BRAHMIN...That means NOBLE BRAHMIN... ADDHYATHWAM= NOBILITY...May be ARYA has some connection... again ,may be...!!!
ALSO there was an Holy Roman Emporer from Germanic tribe...called Arian in the 3rd or 4 th century AD... had some connection to east...!!!
May be nothing...may be it will lead...to the truth...!!!
disagree with the caste issue. Even in arthashastra there are clearly defined castes and categories of people.
The story of Ancient India forces , u said yuvanas I don't know. Yuvanas are Greeks. Many of them donated to he construction of Karla cave ,Nagarjunakonda , and Amaravati stupas. They are converted Buddhist.
Sir but *Basavanna* was killed by upper cast ( May be in ur context *Savarniya* jaathi ) people for the act that he executed the marriage of a couple who belonged to *Brahmin n Dalit* respectively ...... So cast may be a wrong vocabulary but you cannot deny the fact that Dalit n other lower cast people r oppressed by upper cast people throughout the history👍🙏
Do you have any credible reference for Basavanna's death by execution?
@@samdidymus5476 Yes
@@kirankm2050 List it here then. There is not a single credible source that I know of makes such a claim.
@@samdidymus5476 Do you know Kannada?..... Can you read it?.….if yes check out *Vachanagalu* series of poem kind of work by various *Sharanaru* .... whole movement is called * Vachana Kranthi* which occurred in 12th century.....n it was headed by *Basavanna* .... They tried to rectify all the wrong things existed in society like Cast discrimination, women oppression,habit of looking down at labour work, crazy irrational practices in the name of God worshipping n all.....
If you sensitive enough you will understand how viscerally they fought it .... You will find many many *Vachanagalu* which refers to cast discrimination in society n criticise them too......
*Vachana Kranthi* in 12th century of Karnataka is something that not only acknowledge the imperfections in society but took the responsibility to rectify it as well ( Dalit Brahmin marriage was among the bravest act they ventured into ... even knowing all the possible backlash from the society n its dire consequences)....
After that incident the king along with so called noble n Savarniya jaathi people go on for an attack on *Basavanna n his disciples or people who agreed with his thinking or whatever*......
There was no chance to withstand the people who were power full n creamy part of the society who were backed by king n his army itself ..... after they foreseen they are losing d battle they (Basavanna n his team or followers) manage to escape with all their works (Vachanagalu)... One team lead by his son * Chenna Basaveshwara* faught bravely n successful enough to escape into western ghats of Karnataka (the place is called *Ulavi* ( Ulavi means Ulidhukollodu from an catastrophy I mean to save himself/herself against a problem )......
But anger n rage against*Basavanna* was so fierce that whole army chased him no matter what but to finish him n finally after energy draining escape unfortunately Basavanna was faced *Krishna river* where other two rivers merge there n thats why it's called *Kudala Sangama * .... which was impossible to cross him ..... So finally he was drawn into the river in the effort of escape from the people who were chasing him ......
And even today that place is called *Basavanna's aikya * sthala n there is a temple where he was worshipped in lord shivas form(Basavanna n his disciples were Shiva bhakths).....🙏
@@kirankm2050 Mahabharat written by Vyasa born to a fisherwoman. Ramayana written by Valmiki a former Robber. Mahabharata mentions a butcher teaching enlightenment to a Yogi. Of a prostitute given moksha by God etc.
Parasuram.... The teacher of Karna.....
Was angry over khatria, as khatria were not doing there job properly, and miss use their power. So he took an oath, never to teach a khatria....
Thus curse Karna,
Who taught bhisma
What did he say about genetics?
See his earlier videos to hear his views on genetics.
Bro peace be upon those who want to settle with genetics of 2000 BC with 20th century results.
Aryan = Ar+ yuvan = fire + youth,= those who produced man made fire.
IS N'T IT NOBILITY IS ABOUT WISDOM...!!! ???
LEARNED HUMAN...???
ABILITY...VIDYA ...JNANA...KALA...!!!
You are trying to say that only Northern culture is Indic and south or Eastern India is nothing?
Say what! Who said that? Your fetid mind?
Cast or class is an English word for Hindi Jaathi shabdha
NO! Jaathi is literally community and/or a group of people professing certain skills or activities that is handed down over the generations.
Ram also refused to fight with Parshuram as he was brahman, and bhism refused to fight with karn ,and i think it is not caustism, it was self moral not to kill/fight anyone who pretended to important for society.
Very disapointing! I was rager to learn the Indian point of view, the out of India hypothesis. I don't come from any Christian or other conspiracy point of view. I have seen the studies in languages archeology and others; I realize the limitation of these science. Now I wanted to learn your point and all I get is barbs and sarcasm thrown at the western model without showing and explaining his side of the story. And seeing not one but five conspiracy aiming at putting down Indians. He is just pitiful and I didn't learn anything. As far as I know genetics studies proved the invasion of India first by Dravidian then later on by Indo-Europeans. They did not replace the original population but added to it. There is a lot more to know and learn about India but this guy sure if not helping
Request you to please listen to the entire series. May be your queries would get addressed.
There was the reservation of occupation by birth at those times.That was the supremacy of social structure.
Really?!! Do you have a primary reference for this, or is this the blabbering of a mind that has been colonized?
anurag bhargava You have made a sweeping statement Could you also specify your source?
Karna is not a cleaner. He was well versed in the art of war. Your argument is not correct. The Hinduism is lost it’s glory as the caste had explored the vulnerable. Varna or Caste is a bane and to Indian society. It is the selfish attitude of Sanathan dharma. The dominant castes are not holding or carrying the sacred culture of Hinduism. Today the oppressed classes backward classes or castes are carrying the fruits of Hindutva
If you want to protect Hinduism, don’t try to hoodwink, try to apologise to True Indians and dispense with casteism which has almost ruined Hinduism as a religion
He except about cheating of Karna one side, but another side denies all major characters of our history person who are ideal of our
Civilization
Rubbish! You are a liar. Show where the speaker denied all major characters of our history! You are a christian disinformation agent, trying to discredit the speaker.
satya ka Darpan just stop commenting here. Just don’t watch his videos if you don’t agree with him. Whatever you want to prove, it’s impossible to convince us with your moronic logic and lies.
@@tamaleesen2759 again all of you going to brainwash by someone like mexmular, bcoz they wants to Brand something else according to his prospect and misunderstood. They put up all the things upon Astronomic ways bcoz of his subject of knowing only astrology. And several times they accept that they don't know Sanskrit properly just knowen basis of translating discnery
To put all this ARYAN-DRAVIDIAN nonsense in a simple way - Even a so called dravidian can be called as ARYA(noble) and dravida is just used to refer a person who's coming from a particular direction(south) in a country as vast as India.
Totally fake and false about Krishna said that Varna is transforming way in Bhagavat Gita updesh, I challenge you. Even you don't know the sentence is past, present or future of mentioned in there . And you claim about their is Krishna said that.
Rubbish! You are a liar who has not read even one page of the Bhagavadgita. You are a christian disinformation agent, trying to discredit the speaker.
@@dakupotato8074 I m a Brahmin and Gotra is Bharatwaj OK,
satya ka Darpan stop lying.
@@tamaleesen2759 how you judge me as a lyer ??? Even without any fect and figure? So plz don't be denie anyone without acknowledging, it is not good for self , society and Dharma which misguidance goes to affect entire Hindu generation
@@satyakadarpan1009 Daku is right!. If you are a Brahmin, I am an alien from planet DPSYXHKS
The caste system is several thousand at least 3000 years as it was evident even during the times of Buddha 2600 years ago. It didn't come with Vasco di Gama or Portuguese colonization of Goa. The only thing Portuguese brought was the church, not caste.
Rubbish! You are clueless beyond the atrocity literature of Caldwell and Pope.
Portuguese are looters😂
Utter preposterous lies and concoctions. Goebellic..Unmatchable super lier.