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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • We will solve an imaginary differential equation dy/dx=y^i for fun! We will need to use the reverse power rule, Euler's formula for complex exponential, writing a complex number in standard form and the formula for (a+bi)^(c+di): • the tetration of (1+i)...
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  • @blackpenredpen
    @blackpenredpen  4 года назад +162

    Forgot to mention, y=0 isn’t a missing solution since 0^i isn’t defined. See here ruclips.net/video/-ExXldVjYp8/видео.html

    • @vortex370
      @vortex370 4 года назад +3

      Please do this integration of 1/(2sinx+cosx+3)

    • @DanielMaurerDiabolo
      @DanielMaurerDiabolo 4 года назад

      @@vortex370 you can maybe substitute sin(x) with "u" and rewrite the cos(x) term with "(1-u^2)^0.5". Then replace dx with du with the Jacobian and rewrite the integral as much as possible until you might be able to perform a partial fraction decomposition. Keep in mind that cos(x) is then du/dx which might be very useful here. This is how I would solve this but it surely becomes complicated after a few steps :(

    • @vortex370
      @vortex370 4 года назад

      @@DanielMaurerDiabolo can u solve it for me

    • @vortex370
      @vortex370 4 года назад

      @@DanielMaurerDiabolo as it easy to say but hard to do

    • @vortex370
      @vortex370 4 года назад

      @@DanielMaurerDiabolo and I don't think it's a question which can be done with partial fraction

  • @Diriector_Doc
    @Diriector_Doc 4 года назад +432

    Step 1: Isolate y
    Step 2: Get answer
    Step 3: Simplify
    Step 4: Realize you could have stopped at Step 2

    • @elzoog
      @elzoog 4 года назад +19

      I don't think he really simplified it. The "simplified" solution after step 4 seems more complicated than what he had at step 2

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  4 года назад +42

      Hahah nice!

    • @trueriver1950
      @trueriver1950 4 года назад +41

      Step 5. Work on a definition of "simplify"

    • @anshumanagrawal346
      @anshumanagrawal346 3 года назад +8

      @@trueriver1950 Step 6: Give Up

    • @justarandomnerd5520
      @justarandomnerd5520 3 года назад +9

      @@anshumanagrawal346 Step 7: Contemplate on your life.

  • @imacds
    @imacds 4 года назад +251

    dlnr = department of land and natural resources

    • @ojasviagrawal3180
      @ojasviagrawal3180 4 года назад +18

      😂 you should change your subject to geography

    • @ofigennoofigennyy
      @ofigennoofigennyy Год назад +3

      dlnr - донецкая и луганская народные республики

  • @MrCoxmic
    @MrCoxmic 4 года назад +167

    "we're all adults now so be sure you use radians"
    edit: corrected the quote at 5:40

    • @alessiokrolikowski5501
      @alessiokrolikowski5501 4 года назад +4

      15 yo🙁

    • @MrCoxmic
      @MrCoxmic 4 года назад

      @Milky Way Galaxy I was just quoting his comment at 5:40 because it was funny

    • @MrCoxmic
      @MrCoxmic 4 года назад

      @@alessiokrolikowski5501 I was just quoting his comment at 5:40 because it was funny

    • @alessiokrolikowski5501
      @alessiokrolikowski5501 4 года назад +1

      @@MrCoxmic i know

  • @jwesterlund
    @jwesterlund 4 года назад +303

    1:23 “i don’t like to be on the bottom, i like to be on the top” 😏

    • @ryderpham5464
      @ryderpham5464 4 года назад +9

      Julian Westerlund I snorted when I heard that

    • @stza16
      @stza16 4 года назад +3

      I don't get it.

    • @user-pk3jn7zi2h
      @user-pk3jn7zi2h 4 года назад +14

      drz It's okay to be innocent

    • @jamesgalante7967
      @jamesgalante7967 4 года назад +1

      Amit Tiwari well yes but also no

    • @Peter_1986
      @Peter_1986 4 года назад +1

      @@stza16
      "Bottom" and "top" often refer to the positions that people have during sex.

  • @jeremy.N
    @jeremy.N 4 года назад +62

    3:30 "This right here has absolutely no numbers" me: "e"

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  4 года назад +6

      Jeremy Nehring Lol yea I realized that too after i said that

    • @trueriver1950
      @trueriver1950 4 года назад +2

      me too: i

  • @mingmiao364
    @mingmiao364 4 года назад +45

    Interesting. One question: why isn’t the complex power of a complex number multivalued? Or are you only picking a specific branch?

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  4 года назад +50

      Ming Miao it is. Yes I only consider the principle branch.

    • @juliabrooks8396
      @juliabrooks8396 4 года назад +1

      blackpenredpen I love you and your videos

  • @jamesbentonticer4706
    @jamesbentonticer4706 3 года назад +34

    I'm always impressed when he does these long videos without any notes at all!

  • @TrolleningIshraq
    @TrolleningIshraq 4 года назад +48

    "You do not have to solve this in real life." Obviously.....it's in the imaginary world

    • @Fahad789Gem
      @Fahad789Gem 4 года назад +2

      Imaginary numbers are not imaginary they are just as real as real numbers

    • @green0563
      @green0563 4 года назад +2

      To be a little clearer, "imaginary" is just a name given to such numbers, and has no connection with any numbers existing or not existing in our world. TL;DR - Real and imaginary are just names, with no other meaning.

    • @martinrosol7719
      @martinrosol7719 3 месяца назад

      ​@@green0563my guy really wrote tldr

  • @josephhajj1570
    @josephhajj1570 4 года назад +95

    Mr blackpenredpen it's corona time we need daily videos I know I'm disturbing you but I like your math questions plz some integrals question 😘😘😘😘

    • @Metalhammer1993
      @Metalhammer1993 4 года назад +6

      I pray that h e does not take this as an incentive to try to crack corona as a differential equation. works. but damn i´d kill myself if i had to unsubscribe to another channel because it´s corona fucking everywhere

    • @josephhajj1570
      @josephhajj1570 4 года назад +2

      @Lu Ste we'll pray in the name of jesus

  • @martind2520
    @martind2520 4 года назад +51

    "Simplified"

    • @Peter_1986
      @Peter_1986 4 года назад +2

      To mathematicians, "simplified" pretty much just means "easier to deal with", no matter how messy it looks.

  • @f0ntaine649
    @f0ntaine649 4 года назад +13

    Omg I had a panic attack when you wrote the formula because I thought the d theta in the exponent of e was a differential

  • @user-gw8ou6lc2t
    @user-gw8ou6lc2t 4 года назад +7

    Step 1: isolate y
    Step 2: get answer
    Step 3: "simplify"
    Step 4: realize that you could stop at step 2
    Step 5: review the definition of "simplify"

  • @mohamedst7382
    @mohamedst7382 4 года назад +13

    I just want to thank u cuz you always help me to improve my math techniques and i'll never forget your good for me

  • @criskity
    @criskity 4 года назад +10

    I had a feeling that pi would pop up in this problem.

  • @youkaihenge5892
    @youkaihenge5892 4 года назад +17

    I'd love to see a differential equation like this as a bonus question on a test 😂😂😂

  • @lefthandman
    @lefthandman 4 года назад +6

    I love your videos, and it makes me happy whenever I see just how much you love math. Your videos have shown really cool answers to questions I have had myself, and I love imaginary numbers, so these videos are amazing :)

  • @danish5532
    @danish5532 4 года назад +11

    1:24 well I’ve never heard someone say that but you do you I guess

  • @frozenmoon998
    @frozenmoon998 4 года назад +4

    I adore videos with problems that are unlikely to be undertaken by anyone due to their complexity. It's just more fun watching complex, rather than real problems, if you know what I mean.

  • @mohammedshoaib5907
    @mohammedshoaib5907 4 года назад +6

    My favourite Calculus Teacher is backk😍🔥

  • @andreimiga8101
    @andreimiga8101 4 года назад +12

    Whenever he says that he has done something in another video, I already know beforehand which one :P
    Continue the great work! Cheers and #stayhome!

  • @JoJoJet100
    @JoJoJet100 4 года назад +18

    I adore this "pointless" videos of yours, man.

  • @ibn_klingschor
    @ibn_klingschor Год назад +1

    "i don't like to be on the bottom, i like to be on the top"
    make your viewers blush

  • @ianrobinson8518
    @ianrobinson8518 Год назад

    A convention I rarely see is replacing any expression of the form cos x + i sin x with the form cis x. Especially useful when x itself is “complex” expression as in the example illustrated here.

  • @spudhead169
    @spudhead169 4 года назад +1

    Is there a way to find out what proportion of all possible rational numbers are in their lowest terms?. Essentially if you have x/y where x and y go from 1 to n, you get n² possible rational numbers, of which only some instances are in their lowest terms. I guess it just means of all possible combinations of x and y where x and y go from 1 to n, how many combinations are co-prime relative to n². And does that have a limit as n approaches infinity?

  • @treasureberry7154
    @treasureberry7154 4 года назад +3

    I would simplify the last bit in the cos and isin to be (ln4 -pi)/8 because to me that is more straight forward.

  • @erickherrerapena8981
    @erickherrerapena8981 4 года назад +1

    Buen vídeo. Excelente, saludos desde Ecuador.

  • @redrobbie7977
    @redrobbie7977 4 года назад +2

    blackpenredpen, can you make a video for how to add vectors (or complex numbers) while still in polar form without transforming into cartesian form?

  • @juandeluna2652
    @juandeluna2652 4 года назад

    Your videos are the best!

  • @theMagos
    @theMagos 4 года назад +3

    7:00 Third try? You actually recorded this twice before (but scrapped them)?

  • @johnsalkeld1088
    @johnsalkeld1088 3 года назад

    The higher order differentials have a nice pattern y^(2) = i y^(2i-1) and y^(3) = i * (2i-1) y^(3i-2) and if you continue you get a sort of diagonal factorial involved y^(N) = Product (n=2 to N, ((n-1)*(i-1)-1)) * y^(Ni-1) - it looks like a pattern that should involve a combination of cosh sinh, cos and sin and a whole lot of fun

  • @IdoN0TneedTherapy
    @IdoN0TneedTherapy 4 года назад +1

    What threw me was the introduction of a blue pen. After that I never really recovered.

  • @Alians0108
    @Alians0108 4 года назад

    You can write the answer as products of cosh, sinh, cos and i*sin since e^(pi/8)=cosh(pi/8)+sinh(pi/8)

  • @pablorestrepodiaz8520
    @pablorestrepodiaz8520 4 года назад

    I love your videos

  • @saultube44
    @saultube44 4 года назад

    I had to pause the video @9:18 and see how to eliminate the 'i' in the exponent means so much terms, the imaginary is really complex, maybe it's because it like a 4D in Math, complex indeed; fascinating...

  • @redsusoverparadise2700
    @redsusoverparadise2700 4 года назад +2

    It's actuallly nice to see BPRP solving ODEs

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  4 года назад

      Enemy Hunter Official/EHO EHOfficial/ thanks!

  • @jasperson1000
    @jasperson1000 4 года назад

    At 0:49, you should further explain your algebraic notation of multiplying (1-i) by both sides. You are moving too fast.

  • @ehess1492
    @ehess1492 4 года назад +4

    I’m so happy you’re back! I’m on lockdown, and this helps.

  • @Grundini91
    @Grundini91 4 года назад +1

    y=c+xsqrt(2)
    Edit: forgot to put y=

  • @szerednik.laszlo
    @szerednik.laszlo 4 года назад +9

    Thanks for your great work in this hard times

  • @shakeelhassan7625
    @shakeelhassan7625 4 года назад

    (0.976 - i0.218)*sqrt(x+c)*[cos{0.5 ln(x+c)} + i sin{0.5 ln(x+c)}]

  • @sirajyahya9049
    @sirajyahya9049 4 года назад +1

    Pls solve for x
    dx=asin(y)+bcos(y)+cxdy
    a;b;c are constants

  • @julianstoller5883
    @julianstoller5883 4 года назад

    I got into Cornell for engineering and I just want to thank you for inspiring me.

  • @forgetfulfunctor2986
    @forgetfulfunctor2986 4 года назад

    I did not like your notation for multiplying both sides of an equation by something on the third line of the video, but it is clear enough. Good stuff my man!

  • @ayushsharma5640
    @ayushsharma5640 4 года назад

    Integrate 0 to 1 (x^2(4-x^4)/(1-x^2)^1/2)

  • @kumar7359
    @kumar7359 4 года назад +1

    Excellent. Thanks a lot.
    What does y^i mean?

    • @somebodyelse9130
      @somebodyelse9130 4 года назад

      3blue1brown has a great video on why e^iπ=-1 (and how e^ix = cos(x) + (i)sin(x)). Basically about how Euler's formula corresponds to a unit circle on the complex plane.
      I think it might help answer your question. Sorry, I don't know enough to answer it myself. I'll get the URL and be right back.

    • @somebodyelse9130
      @somebodyelse9130 4 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/v0YEaeIClKY/видео.html Here's the video

  • @maicee7603
    @maicee7603 4 года назад +3

    Is Cis a formal thing for cos + isin ?
    My lecturer use Cis so he doesn't need to write that much

    • @nylvon
      @nylvon 4 года назад

      I never heard of that notation. I don't think it is very widely used. I don't know anyone who uses it.

    • @arghya.7098
      @arghya.7098 4 года назад +4

      Yes. This notation is used. I found the notation in the book "Pre-College Mathematics".

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 4 года назад

      sichka _ It is formally acceptable, but I would not recommend it, since in the end, the readers will most likely be confused and you will need to explain it anyway, not to mention that e^ix is just equally as simple.

    • @maicee7603
      @maicee7603 4 года назад

      Thanka for the explanations :)

  • @bobh6728
    @bobh6728 Год назад +1

    I want to see him take the derivative and show that it works.

  • @markgraham2312
    @markgraham2312 4 года назад

    Pretty cool!

  • @LPSlight0
    @LPSlight0 4 года назад +1

    I saw this on my screen and immediately had a heart attack.

  • @phlogchamp
    @phlogchamp 4 года назад

    You never fail to confuse the hell out of me but make me feel like I can conquer the world.

  • @rubikscuber1114
    @rubikscuber1114 4 года назад +1

    That thumbnail tho😂😂

  • @tannernatebryce6259
    @tannernatebryce6259 Год назад

    "I don't like to be on the bottom, I like to be on top" AYOOOOO-

  • @richarddavy-smith6626
    @richarddavy-smith6626 4 года назад

    You could of redefined c to be simpler earlier ie replace c(1+I) with a new c. It’s just a constant that can be any number.

  • @etienneparcollet727
    @etienneparcollet727 4 года назад

    Integration constant is complex too.

  • @djvalentedochp
    @djvalentedochp 4 года назад +3

    5:39 whenever you say that you make me laugh LOL
    good job man you are the best calculus teacher i have ever seen
    Watching your videos from 🇧🇷🇧🇷

  • @sairoof4704
    @sairoof4704 4 года назад +36

    I'm pretty sure that this is useful in quantum mechanics

    • @me_hanics
      @me_hanics 4 года назад +5

      i dunno. Give an example

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  4 года назад +3

      Really?

    • @divyanshaggarwal6243
      @divyanshaggarwal6243 4 года назад +1

      @@blackpenredpen
      actually yes
      well..... sort of
      in my classes in effect of potential field on a boson, it was common to use complex numbers, but usually they were only used for multiplication. But my professor went a step ahead and gave a problem involving a very similar pattern as in the video
      he said it was not a practical scenario but still thought it was afun problem to give to us

    • @kz_cbble9670
      @kz_cbble9670 4 года назад

      @@divyanshaggarwal6243 which college are you in? Mai Indian

    • @dharanidharnayak9766
      @dharanidharnayak9766 4 года назад

      @@me_hanics It is used in the heisenberg matrix mechanics and the schrödinger equation.

  • @fackingcopyrights
    @fackingcopyrights 4 года назад +1

    What a simple solution for that complex question. No wait, its the other way around: simple question, complex solution..... Eh, both complex

  • @abdulazizmahmoud6263
    @abdulazizmahmoud6263 4 года назад

    please integrate (4+(cosx)^2)^1/2

  • @EatSleepandGame
    @EatSleepandGame 4 года назад

    amazing... as usual.

  • @anirbandas84
    @anirbandas84 4 года назад

    Hey bro..na awesome video again!
    But I hv a enquiry , did u make videos about Non homogeneous higher order diffrential equations and particular integrals??
    If yes, plz make a playlist for that! I am unable to find those videos😣

  • @nielsvanduivendijk8697
    @nielsvanduivendijk8697 4 года назад +1

    Can you simplify the other part using the same equation with the imaginary part inside the brackets equal to zero?

  • @mokouf3
    @mokouf3 4 года назад

    The polar version of complex^complex is even more complex.

  • @manishapathak7967
    @manishapathak7967 4 года назад

    Can you make a video on math Olympiad books , please.

  • @itrickz7145
    @itrickz7145 4 года назад

    Hey Steve, Fantastic Equation!

  • @TheNinjaDwarfBiker
    @TheNinjaDwarfBiker 4 года назад

    ill never need to know this in real life but it will definitely be useful in imaginary life

  • @madaaz6333
    @madaaz6333 4 года назад

    Excellent!

  • @ProfOmarMath
    @ProfOmarMath 4 года назад +1

    It's a complex numbers day!

  • @kcfish4862
    @kcfish4862 4 года назад +1

    chill there, differential eqn was already killing me

  • @alanconstty3838
    @alanconstty3838 4 года назад +1

    Make more number theory videos c:

  • @fawzanfawzi9993
    @fawzanfawzi9993 4 года назад

    RUclips recommendation is really bizarre. Good thing I understand most of this.

  • @enzomendescruz1387
    @enzomendescruz1387 9 месяцев назад

    Do could the deducion of exponentiation of two complexs numbers a +bi that you showed in the vídeo please?

  • @mjolnir3309
    @mjolnir3309 Год назад

    I'm not sure what is more impressive doing it this way or taking the derivative of that mess and getting y^i

  • @neha_2282
    @neha_2282 4 года назад

    What is the need to simplify (1-i)^(1/2+1/2i)

  • @shymalchakraborty3161
    @shymalchakraborty3161 4 года назад

    Everyday I watch your videos

  • @christiangreisinger1068
    @christiangreisinger1068 4 года назад

    Now check the answer by differientiation! ;)

  • @heldertvillegasjaramillo6343
    @heldertvillegasjaramillo6343 4 года назад

    We missed you

  • @duggydo
    @duggydo 4 года назад +1

    I could have never “imagined” such a thing if I had seen it 🧐

  • @Nickesponja
    @Nickesponja 4 года назад

    Now check the answer by differentiation :)

  • @nicolastorres147
    @nicolastorres147 Год назад

    2:20 i don’t like to be in the exponent

  • @parthasarathiroutxiie569
    @parthasarathiroutxiie569 4 года назад +1

    Sir you are from which country???????

  • @Garrick645
    @Garrick645 4 года назад +1

    This is out of jee syllabus, but RUclips recommended it to me...
    Now your subscibers have increased by | i² |

  • @curtisw0234
    @curtisw0234 Год назад

    You would think the answer would be more elegant but nope

  • @41ace39
    @41ace39 4 года назад

    Apple pen + pinapple pen = blackpenredpen

  • @Sonickart
    @Sonickart 4 года назад

    can you do videos on frobenius method, bessel equations and legendre transforms?

  • @NitronNeutron
    @NitronNeutron 4 года назад +1

    I promise you will never need this. Challenge accepted

  • @abhirupchakraborty9027
    @abhirupchakraborty9027 4 года назад

    Sir pls tell us how the formula comes pls.. Or send the video link

  • @yegersr4844
    @yegersr4844 4 года назад

    Your a bad man in the math class my brother... Just wish the crew would just fallow the process

  • @bernardmcgarvey4169
    @bernardmcgarvey4169 4 года назад

    Is the constant of integration c a real or a complex number?

    • @carultch
      @carultch 9 месяцев назад

      The constant of integration can be any number, real or complex. It is common that when the integral is meant to be real-valued, that you'd expect a real-valued constant of integration as well, otherwise the output would be meaningless.
      This is how the integral of 1/x relative to x, is ln(|x|) + C. In a general complex case, it is ln(|z|) + i*(angle(z) + 2*pi*k) + C, where k is any integer and c is any constant, real or complex.
      Let k = 0, and let C = -i*pi, and you'll see that ln(|x|) is the integral of 1/x, for both positive and negative numbers. Since you cannot integrate directly across the problem point of x=0, you can have a different constant of integration for negatives as you have for positives. Let C = -i*pi*(2*k + 1), and you cancel out the imaginary part of the natural log of a negative number.

  • @wkingston1248
    @wkingston1248 4 года назад

    Just by eyeballing the whole (1-i)^1/2+1/2i seems like its about 1. Anyone who botherd to compute that want to let me know?

  • @KyleDB150
    @KyleDB150 4 года назад

    why not use complex exponential instead of cos + isin ?

  • @Jim-uq1mc
    @Jim-uq1mc 4 года назад

    How does this jibe with the very different result given by WolframAlpha?

  • @seroujghazarian6343
    @seroujghazarian6343 4 года назад

    θ=arctan(b/a)

    • @carultch
      @carultch 9 месяцев назад

      θ=atan2(a, b), to account for all four quadrants.

  • @ayushpathak1638
    @ayushpathak1638 4 года назад

    Hey, i did this
    Took ln both sides
    Divided by lny so to have i on rhs
    Squared both sides to eliminate i and there i was😎

  • @thedoublehelix5661
    @thedoublehelix5661 4 года назад

    what's the point of expanding out the power? Why not leave the (1-i)^(0.5 +0.5i)

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 4 года назад

      The Double Helix It is not very useful to work with complex exponents if the base is a polynomial.

  • @neutralfreak9559
    @neutralfreak9559 4 года назад +1

    Do you guys just like watching these or is it just me

  • @Marcox385
    @Marcox385 4 года назад

    This is nice

  • @funkyflames7430
    @funkyflames7430 4 года назад +1

    What if you do idy/idx instead of dy/dx

    • @3snoW_
      @3snoW_ 4 года назад

      the i cancels out and becomes dy/dx

  • @ianmoseley9910
    @ianmoseley9910 3 года назад

    dlnr sounds like a railroad line

  • @caiheang
    @caiheang 4 года назад +1

    Do dy/dx = i^y :D