I mean, he grew up basically running away from the Soviet Union and his father was killed trying to save his family. Pretty sure the Heavy got back at them, but still, Heavy had a rough childhood.
"No. It's not." You know, considering how cartoony and comedic the game is and how casual the music in the background is during this story, the Heavy does a good job of making those last couple of lines sound really poignant.
funniest thing is that the heavy line with the most senseless violence (how he tortured engineer for killing the team) strong bad is disgusted and tells him how fucked up the story was
@@SumschmuckHonestly, both are stories that equal out each another - Heavy throughout the comics, and the night at the inventory is shown to surprisingly be a big man who's a type of still waters run deep - despite having rough english, and having extreme killing tendency, the sparrow and the love of his family, on top of his family being trapped in the gulag shows he's a very emotional man, especially when it comes to senseless violence (IE a sparrow that did no wrong being killed by a kid and dying in heavy's hands) He can be both cruel, but also extremely merciful. He's a animal lover and a family man, but also a mean killing machine that can be brutal at times. He has (arguably, and debatable) also a Russian PHD, and considering we can clearly see he greatly loves his family, and greatly supports his team despite having the macho appearance of a big gun man with less then ideal intelligence. He's intelligent, and even the russian dub of meet the heavy is actually very sophisticated compared to other classes, which backs this theory up further - it's just that English is a 2nd language to heavy, and he's still not fully used to English language, so he commonly uses short and simple phrases and words and sentences. tl:dr: heavy is surprisingly a intellectual twist on the typical "big macho man with big gun who loves killing"
The key word is "senseless" i think to Heavy, all the violence he commits is for a reason, be it for his employers, to provide for his family etc. Seeing a once innocent child groomed for combat kill a small defenseless animal however? Well that truly is violence he can't make sense out of.
Heavy seems like a bit of a interesting character, seriously. He mourns a little bird but kills hundreds of men for a living. Dude obviously see's innocents in animals, and darkness in humans. Not a Nuance afforded to many "big gun men" in most video games.
I mean, in his point of view, his own country men killed his father and put his whole family in a Gulag. While British/Americans are paying Heavy to kill people for their own gain. He has seen both sides of the iron curtain and there is nothing but violence. Humanity is nothing but violence with some logic behind it. So obviously 'senseless violence' for Heavy would be the death of an innocent animal.
@@iug5672 This is why I fucking love TF2 characters. Even the chipper/comic relief characters have complicated thoughts and emotions. Even Soldier, who's just a patriotic victim of lead poisoning. He's dwindling deeper into insanity and meanwhile all we onlookers can do is point and laugh. But as funny as it is, he's crazy, he's too far gone, and at that core is a love for his country that he only knows how to do one thing to express: kill.
Heavy in TF2: A big goofy man who says POOTIS a lot while offering sandwiches Heavy literally everywhere else: Seriously, this guy needs a hug and some extra love!
There's other two occasions from what I can remember - Tycho's conversation about giraffes and their necks, and another story from Heavy, about how he tortures an enemy Engineer who killed his entire team. At the end of that story, Max is left speechless at the gruesome descriptions of how Heavy shoved a wrench down the engie's throat while ripping his fingers.
This was back during the days of the Soviet Union, The Heavy couldn't use emotions or else he would have to do hard labor in a prison camp. Those were the days for him.
The death heavy causes isn’t senseless, they’re trying to kill him, he’s paid to kill them. But this is a true show of “senseless” violence. To heavy, it makes no sense why the boy would kill the defenseless sparrow. Strongbad asked for senseless violence in a cartoon sense, heavy gave it to him in a real sense.
D-ray Ent see Heavy is a mercenary and he feels nothing for the loss of human life but fauna's lives hurt more for Heavy he's literally payed to kill people not animals
There's also the fact that he saw somebody _else_ do it. I mean, sure, shooting someone comes naturally to the heavy. But if you saw one of your friends get shot by somebody else, it makes it an action that was not caused by you. You feel powerless over the situation. You feel very small and regretful, that something so innocent, so pure, would be struck down by something you couldn't knowingly prevent. That bird was doing nothing but singing its songs to the heavy, who most likely had no happiness in his assassin camp when growing up. To have that little bit of happiness suddenly be stripped away, by an action he himself was forced to learn to do, is so very saddening.
and it could probably also be because the sparrow wasnt expected to be killed mercenaries will obviously expect it and can (or at least think they can) fight
Even medic would have been crying to hear someone kill a bird like that. Maybe that is how they first bonded Also, I like how Heavy's literary skills sublty show here in the ways he tells the story and beutifully paints the scene, like how he put emphasis on the snow setting.
You know, across the (admittedly limited) number of comics I've read and across the cartoon and games, this is the first time I've ever seen Max genuinely shocked.
this story represents the death of the Heavy's childlike innocence. He knew then that anything that was too good and pure was not long for his world. So if he is to survive, he must be a crueler killing machine than his enemies. He must make everyone too afraid to cross him. Only then can he fit in fleeting moments of vulnerability
When I was boy, I was at camp being trained in many ways of combat. There was sparrow sitting on fence, snow falls quietly around me, without notice, another boy jumps from behind tree, and kills sparrow with throwing knife! The boy runs away. I pick up sparrow, and hear his last breath, before digging him tiny grave.
The merch Soldier:so comie,what are you gonna do? Heavy:i........fall Demoman:"short laught" now tells us a story that will make us cry Soldier:a real man like me doesn't cry! Heavy:......."sigh"......i already told this story before....but i guess i have to tell it again......when i was kid,i was trained with guns and knife,one day i saw sparrow that was sitting on fence,and suddenly another boy came out of nowhere......and killed sparrow by throwing knife,then he ran away.......i took sparrow,heard its last breath and made a tiny grave for it Pyro:"crying" Scout:jeez dude,you didn't had a good childhood Heavy:i know......that's why i'm more gentle with animals.....
This is why Heavy reminds me of Beast from X-men or Goliath from Gargoyles. He's always more than ready for a fight, but he's a sensitive and intelligent guy at heart
Awwww....Poor Heavy. I kinda know how he feels. One day at work I saw a Sparrow that had been unfortunate to be crushed like a pancake in the wal-mart parking lot.
Strong Bad: Alrigt big pretend killer man. Tell me the most awesome story you have, with plenty of supercool senseless violence. Heavy: Hmm... I go all in.
Must have been when he spent time at the north siberian gulag with his family due to his father being counter revolutionary before he burnt it to the ground.
I was playing the crack version of the game because the company shutdown and the game are dead as well but there's a free game website so glad I have it. suddenly when finishing a dramatic card chips thingy heavy did all this process, I actually kinda feel bad.
Why can't he support me? Maybe he agrees with my statements, what's so bad about someone else having a positive opinion on something that you don't agree with?
Who else thinks the boy was Spy? I mean, Spy’s past is as a mystery as he is, so who’s to say where he trained, or where he was brought up, his accent could be fake as well.
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Heavy apparently has a more depressing definition of "senseless" than most. Poor guy.
I mean, he grew up basically running away from the Soviet Union and his father was killed trying to save his family. Pretty sure the Heavy got back at them, but still, Heavy had a rough childhood.
Surrounded by senseless war and violence is what lead him to be a merc in the first place
"No. It's not."
You know, considering how cartoony and comedic the game is and how casual the music in the background is during this story, the Heavy does a good job of making those last couple of lines sound really poignant.
@Israel100israel It's not a noun - it's an adjective. It means 'touching,' usually in a sad way.
I just played the game and music stopped for his story to make it more dramatic
I love how even Max and Strong Bad get dampened by this story...
Laughing salesman
You know your story is depressing as hell when the psychotic rabbit is depressed afterwards.
And then they horrified after Heavy tell his story about torturing Engineer.
Just because you're psychotic doesn't mean you can't show sympathy...
Max was like:...well, that killed my mood
>Tell us a story with senseless violence.
>When Heavy was boy, he was trained in many ways of combat.
>Snow falls quietly around me
>There was sparrow sitting on fence.
>Without notice, another boy jumps from behind tree, and kills Sparrow with throwing knife
>The boy runs away
Strong Bad wanted a story with senseless violence. He got it.
I guess Heavy had a diffrent idea of senseless. Poor guy had to experience that
funniest thing is that the heavy line with the most senseless violence (how he tortured engineer for killing the team) strong bad is disgusted and tells him how fucked up the story was
@@SumschmuckFor Heavy, it's not senseless violence. Because that's just karma for him.
@@SumschmuckHonestly, both are stories that equal out each another - Heavy throughout the comics, and the night at the inventory is shown to surprisingly be a big man who's a type of still waters run deep - despite having rough english, and having extreme killing tendency, the sparrow and the love of his family, on top of his family being trapped in the gulag shows he's a very emotional man, especially when it comes to senseless violence (IE a sparrow that did no wrong being killed by a kid and dying in heavy's hands)
He can be both cruel, but also extremely merciful. He's a animal lover and a family man, but also a mean killing machine that can be brutal at times. He has (arguably, and debatable) also a Russian PHD, and considering we can clearly see he greatly loves his family, and greatly supports his team despite having the macho appearance of a big gun man with less then ideal intelligence. He's intelligent, and even the russian dub of meet the heavy is actually very sophisticated compared to other classes, which backs this theory up further - it's just that English is a 2nd language to heavy, and he's still not fully used to English language, so he commonly uses short and simple phrases and words and sentences.
tl:dr: heavy is surprisingly a intellectual twist on the typical "big macho man with big gun who loves killing"
The key word is "senseless" i think to Heavy, all the violence he commits is for a reason, be it for his employers, to provide for his family etc.
Seeing a once innocent child groomed for combat kill a small defenseless animal however? Well that truly is violence he can't make sense out of.
I never thought of it that way. But hearing it now, it makes a scary amount of sense.
I guess that explains why he doesn't like spy, or the "Sneaky stabby type"
I mean what character does like spy lmao
@Soundwaveimus Prime damn
@Soundwaveimus Prime actually it's scout's mother
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@@ekwinoks_ytPresident of his fanclub
Heavy seems like a bit of a interesting character, seriously. He mourns a little bird but kills hundreds of men for a living. Dude obviously see's innocents in animals, and darkness in humans. Not a Nuance afforded to many "big gun men" in most video games.
I mean, in his point of view, his own country men killed his father and put his whole family in a Gulag. While British/Americans are paying Heavy to kill people for their own gain.
He has seen both sides of the iron curtain and there is nothing but violence. Humanity is nothing but violence with some logic behind it.
So obviously 'senseless violence' for Heavy would be the death of an innocent animal.
@@iug5672 Dear god. That's sad.
@@iug5672 This is why I fucking love TF2 characters. Even the chipper/comic relief characters have complicated thoughts and emotions.
Even Soldier, who's just a patriotic victim of lead poisoning. He's dwindling deeper into insanity and meanwhile all we onlookers can do is point and laugh. But as funny as it is, he's crazy, he's too far gone, and at that core is a love for his country that he only knows how to do one thing to express: kill.
*proceeds to kill a mom bear in the tf2 comics*
He sees reason, if someone dies for no reason that’s when he feels bad, but the people have a reason of death.**THERE IN HIS WAY**
Heavy in TF2: A big goofy man who says POOTIS a lot while offering sandwiches
Heavy literally everywhere else: Seriously, this guy needs a hug and some extra love!
Canon Heavy vs fanon Heavy
@@St4r_Z0mb13 vs comic heavy
Damn, Heavy. You’ve shown that your heart is bigger than your guns.
Well, techincally you are right, considering what happened in "Meet the medic"
One of the rare times we see max loose him smile
theres another scene i can think of from this game where this happens, although that one is tycho's fault and... not due to sadness...
@@MSCDonkeyKong tycho just like his animals a little to much
@@MSCDonkeyKong Giraffe? Tbf, Tycho's story about giraffe is horrifying to hear or imagine
There's other two occasions from what I can remember - Tycho's conversation about giraffes and their necks, and another story from Heavy, about how he tortures an enemy Engineer who killed his entire team. At the end of that story, Max is left speechless at the gruesome descriptions of how Heavy shoved a wrench down the engie's throat while ripping his fingers.
This was back during the days of the Soviet Union, The Heavy couldn't use emotions or else he would have to do hard labor in a prison camp. Those were the days for him.
He was actually sent to a prison camp when he was young in the comics
Heavy is counter-revolutionary confirmed
@@davisthegamelord yeah because his family were against all of what was happening in there
@@hmmmhmmm6917 his dad, specifically. its the actual storyline
i'm pretty sure you were allowed to have feelings in the soviet union lol
The death heavy causes isn’t senseless, they’re trying to kill him, he’s paid to kill them. But this is a true show of “senseless” violence. To heavy, it makes no sense why the boy would kill the defenseless sparrow. Strongbad asked for senseless violence in a cartoon sense, heavy gave it to him in a real sense.
Wait.... it's funny if you torture a man until is death but it's icredibly sad seing a little bird dyng?
=
Heavy Weapons Guy
D-ray Ent see Heavy is a mercenary and he feels nothing for the loss of human life but fauna's lives hurt more for Heavy he's literally payed to kill people not animals
Plus this was from his childhood, rather than more recently with the engineer story
There's also the fact that he saw somebody _else_ do it. I mean, sure, shooting someone comes naturally to the heavy. But if you saw one of your friends get shot by somebody else, it makes it an action that was not caused by you. You feel powerless over the situation. You feel very small and regretful, that something so innocent, so pure, would be struck down by something you couldn't knowingly prevent.
That bird was doing nothing but singing its songs to the heavy, who most likely had no happiness in his assassin camp when growing up. To have that little bit of happiness suddenly be stripped away, by an action he himself was forced to learn to do, is so very saddening.
Engineer would kill the heavy if Heavy would not do it first
and it could probably also be because the sparrow wasnt expected to be killed
mercenaries will obviously expect it and can (or at least think they can) fight
Even medic would have been crying to hear someone kill a bird like that. Maybe that is how they first bonded
Also, I like how Heavy's literary skills sublty show here in the ways he tells the story and beutifully paints the scene, like how he put emphasis on the snow setting.
he _does_ have a PhD
@@rokkraljkolesa9317that is always going to be debatable unless we get an actual confirmation from a currently canon source.
"I'm Heavy Weapons Guy, and this, is my sadness..."
Holy shit, this place is a goldmine for old comments, so old reply wasn’t a thing!
It's werid ya.
You know, across the (admittedly limited) number of comics I've read and across the cartoon and games, this is the first time I've ever seen Max genuinely shocked.
Jesus for a funny game this is a very potent and sad moment
Careful what you ask for, because many questions are very interpretive
Heavy, one of the most dangerous killing machines also happens to have one of the largest hearts.
That sparrow killing boy sounds like a Spy.
That is senseless violence. Heavy, you are great at chatting. No joking.
this story represents the death of the Heavy's childlike innocence. He knew then that anything that was too good and pure was not long for his world. So if he is to survive, he must be a crueler killing machine than his enemies. He must make everyone too afraid to cross him. Only then can he fit in fleeting moments of vulnerability
I used to play this game A LOT to get good at poker... I never heard this story
Tin heavy has a habit of busting out and ruining the stoy
this small occurrence shocked him up so bad he still remembers it years later
When I was boy, I was at camp being trained in many ways of combat. There was sparrow sitting on fence, snow falls quietly around me, without notice, another boy jumps from behind tree, and kills sparrow with throwing knife! The boy runs away. I pick up sparrow, and hear his last breath, before digging him tiny grave.
Knowing Tycho he's probably crying because he didnt get to do something to that sparrow...
What was kid spy doing in Russia!?!
O wait....
LIL' SPY SCHOOL WENT TO A FIELD TRIP!
Jesus fuckig christ 😂
and there goes the tenth class... in the tiny grave
You see, I love playing Engineer, but I love Heavy's character alot.
I say, good sir, welcome to 3 months ago again!
I dare say, if one has to be quite more accruate I would say 6 months ago!
Good day, sir bonk.
*sees 2010 video with 1440p*
Fuck it, I need to see this.
This makes me feel good, he has sympathy
Heavy has a doctorate and I love it
That's why you don't ask russians for stories.
It has to take something special to make Tycho cry.
The merch
Soldier:so comie,what are you gonna do?
Heavy:i........fall
Demoman:"short laught" now tells us a story that will make us cry
Soldier:a real man like me doesn't cry!
Heavy:......."sigh"......i already told this story before....but i guess i have to tell it again......when i was kid,i was trained with guns and knife,one day i saw sparrow that was sitting on fence,and suddenly another boy came out of nowhere......and killed sparrow by throwing knife,then he ran away.......i took sparrow,heard its last breath and made a tiny grave for it
Pyro:"crying"
Scout:jeez dude,you didn't had a good childhood
Heavy:i know......that's why i'm more gentle with animals.....
when you get Tycho to cry, you know it's sad.
So much comedic genius and character in a game you can't even get anymore.
This is why Heavy reminds me of Beast from X-men or Goliath from Gargoyles. He's always more than ready for a fight, but he's a sensitive and intelligent guy at heart
Aw, Tycho's got a heart after all. :)
I cry everytime
It's not the place for feuds to take place. Take it somewhere elsewhere!
This guy has a heart
I just found it funny this is the same guy who told he shoved a wrench on engineer's throat after tearing his fingers and laughed at him
I find it funny that Tycho is crying, because his personality says otherwise in context.
Awwww Tycho started crying!!! ...but then again he is kind of zoophile throughout the game so... XD
May that good sparrow rest in peace
…Well that story certainly had senseless violence… damn Misha.
Really shows how Heavy is actually very poetic
Awwww....Poor Heavy. I kinda know how he feels. One day at work I saw a Sparrow that had been unfortunate to be crushed like a pancake in the wal-mart parking lot.
Strong Bad: Alrigt big pretend killer man. Tell me the most awesome story you have, with plenty of supercool senseless violence. Heavy: Hmm... I go all in.
Must have been when he spent time at the north siberian gulag with his family due to his father being counter revolutionary before he burnt it to the ground.
What makes this sadder is that the chicken kiev looks almost like a Sparrow and the name is a dish
Doesn't he tell the story where he brutally murders the engie by ripping his fingers off and shoving a wrench down his throat?
Yes. I recorded that as well.
Heavy is a very deep, deep person..
Medic: (sighs) Zat is mein Heavy!
Archimedes: Coo!
Then the music in the background just bopping
Heavy is a gentle giant
Doesn't matters, just scram.
The only time i actually related to Tycho
IT'S A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL
Heavy cries during poker
Damn you know its sad if sam starts crying
You probably can't either mate.
pootis: beta version
Heavy has a heavy heart.
Now his love for the little red robin makes a looooot of sense.
Heavy lived most of his childhood on a gulag
the saddest back story i ever heard
Wow never knew heavy was such a softie
ARCHIMEDES IS ZOMBIE!
NO WONDER IT LIKES BLOOD!
He's heavy weapons guy; and he has feelings too dammit!
A
I wanna hug him
archimedes is a dove.
Welcome to 3 months ago...
Yeah the webcomics have many hints towards it.
Did I touch a nerve?
I was playing the crack version of the game because the company shutdown and the game are dead as well but there's a free game website so glad I have it. suddenly when finishing a dramatic card chips thingy heavy did all this process, I actually kinda feel bad.
Rest In Peace sparrow
thought bro was going to say he shot the other kid but then
Well he asked for senseless.
Poor Heavy :(
Why can't he support me?
Maybe he agrees with my statements, what's so bad about someone else having a positive opinion on something that you don't agree with?
Because he's in war all the time.
Who else thinks the boy was Spy? I mean, Spy’s past is as a mystery as he is, so who’s to say where he trained, or where he was brought up, his accent could be fake as well.
I don't know what you're talking about.
ARCHIMEDES IS A DOVE
I wouldn’t put Spider-Man zero above miles
tycho has zoophillia? i dont really read a lot of their comics but...i never tought that
I need A Mod That Just Removes "Strong Bad"
Poor heavy :,(
So what was the original comment that started this whole shit storm?
**a single tear**
These trolls probably can't.
i now have a sad..
So many...feels... D': Poor Heavy...
Archimedes sounds like a Pidgeon to me.
I mean heavy is from the USSR so I’m not surprised something like this happened