Nice ships, although I will always call a Vilnius class as the Moscow because well it's the same ship. What I find bizzar is the San Francisco is the same in both kits, yet they changed the name of the Moscow to Vilnius, and the St Petersburg to Warsaw, Berlin still remains the same, as does the Madrid and Seattle none of them got a name change. It's clearly pollical and something I won't partake in, not in a game system. Politics should be left out entirely.
thanks mate. moscow is just the variant with the guns on front. every ship that got refitted with the guns on the back got a rename in order to differentiate them as a "new" class of ship. they both use the same rules but in lore the vilnius is just a refreshed design of the old cruisers. this whole "its political" conspiracy theory falls instantly apart when you realize that the barnaby got renamed aswell to the edmonton. its just a thing to differentiate them from the old variants. human brain just want to see patterns everywhere. we are trained to have pattern recognition but its just bias at play here basically
@@Neratius The Barnaby was an after thought, that's why rules wise it was introduced as 'experimental', it was a ship the community put together and asked for rules by Hawk Games prior to their take over from TT combat. Initially Hawk games thought it would be too overpowered but their community requested it. Which is why it has no box build instructions and it is absent still in their latest PDF downloadable instructions still. That's why it was called Barnaby Type-A cobra laser on top and turrets below and Type B which is technically now the Edmonton with the cobra laser at the bottom and turrets on top.
@Dazzxp i see. my point still kind of stands. i still highly doubt the reason is political. i worked to much in product design to not resign the naming convention to completely random and just renaming some heavy variants because the design changed, so the old variants are still lore conform and usable^^
Awesome ships. Beautiful painting
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Nice ships, although I will always call a Vilnius class as the Moscow because well it's the same ship.
What I find bizzar is the San Francisco is the same in both kits, yet they changed the name of the Moscow to Vilnius, and the St Petersburg to Warsaw, Berlin still remains the same, as does the Madrid and Seattle none of them got a name change. It's clearly pollical and something I won't partake in, not in a game system. Politics should be left out entirely.
thanks mate. moscow is just the variant with the guns on front. every ship that got refitted with the guns on the back got a rename in order to differentiate them as a "new" class of ship. they both use the same rules but in lore the vilnius is just a refreshed design of the old cruisers. this whole "its political" conspiracy theory falls instantly apart when you realize that the barnaby got renamed aswell to the edmonton. its just a thing to differentiate them from the old variants.
human brain just want to see patterns everywhere. we are trained to have pattern recognition but its just bias at play here basically
@@Neratius The Barnaby was an after thought, that's why rules wise it was introduced as 'experimental', it was a ship the community put together and asked for rules by Hawk Games prior to their take over from TT combat. Initially Hawk games thought it would be too overpowered but their community requested it. Which is why it has no box build instructions and it is absent still in their latest PDF downloadable instructions still. That's why it was called Barnaby Type-A cobra laser on top and turrets below and Type B which is technically now the Edmonton with the cobra laser at the bottom and turrets on top.
@Dazzxp i see. my point still kind of stands. i still highly doubt the reason is political. i worked to much in product design to not resign the naming convention to completely random and just renaming some heavy variants because the design changed, so the old variants are still lore conform and usable^^