Players commented on the MC ability to be overpowered if it can open alien tech trees to Protoss players, before BW was published, but Blizzard replied that if you have the economy to rock two tech trees in any meaningful way, you've already overpowered your enemy, anyway, so it was left in.
@@ryapowa seems like at really 70% but lets say 50% of pro games come down to huge army max supply fights, and in that case switching your economy supply into an alien race and using them for probe count instead of your main race, hence you have a bigger fighting army...it can become really strong i just dont think players have utilized it enough. i see alot of games also where theyre sending countless drops of dark templar hi templar storming workers reaver drops, if you can pull those off during those max supply fight games- then it makes sense that you can mindcontrol steal a worker..its just not being utilized. its very strong and basically guarantees protoss a win in a long game if they use it i would say. if youre on 150 fighting army supply fighting a 200 fighting army supply 50 terran worker count player-youre going to lose hard.
It wasn’t a match between equals. It was just a pro deciding to at last relax and enjoy some slow and long humiliation of an amateur. That explains the murthada’s apm swings between 900 and 90.
LOL many great plays from Morthada, quick DT in base was great, mind control and recall with tanks was great to watch, give us more of these! EPIC for sure
I'm up to the DT rush part, and man, I have to wonder why he didn't go straight for the tanks, and just the tanks. SVC kills are nice, sure, but it's even nicer to have nothing to attack you when scan eventually kicks in. And nothing to keep out other troops. GG.
Idk tbh, if it were me I would try to deny the ComSats from being completed and then continue killing SCVs. Of course I would kill the SCVs that are building turrets as well to deny vision of the DTs as much as possible. But Idk because its been a long time since I played Broodwar and I never really used DTs too often. Usually I would use High Templar or Reavers with Shuttles when I want to kill some workers.
@@FalconPaladin it's about relatability for me. I like that you don't know everything and get excited about (insert spoiler here). Also it's just you monitoring the whole game on your own. Keep up the good work.
those 2 dark templars at the start could've done way more damage if the toss player had better micro.. like attacking the comm satt/missle turrets while they're being built
Original terran had still a chance to come back, toss guy was being negligent because of perceived superiority and supposed win, too bad he had no reserves
As I am watching this game I think of mind control over an allie's army which it can replace. It would take time but it might work. Does it work that way? :)
god, wish we had more Morthada matches, and ones against Flash and the other elites would be HILARIOUS hahaha, even they would be surprised with Morthada's "tricks." LOVE this match and these two players. Hope more unique matches and lesser known players are still out there to find and cast.
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Matt Berry always delivers. He is also a great musician.
Next before questioning masters sit and think for a moment i sugest. He saced the goons in the first attack to prevent teran from scaning. Then the dark was kept in shuttle if scan come
nice game with that display of mind control and all, but it really should have ended as early as 7:30 when those DTs walked in undisturbed and without any possibility to be detected. How the fuck did Morthada not win right then and there? Did he not want to? :D
Aw man, why didn’t Morthada make nukes?? That’s the funniest thing to do with a mind controlled Terran army. Two command centers, double nuke silos, two ghosts, simultaneous nukes in the middle of the enemy’s production. Kiss of death.
How'd it take me a month to find this? Also I like to think that the scv joined the protoss willingly since that was Jim Raynor after escaping tarsonis
When your macro is that good you don’t need micro. Just send waves of units to whittle down the enemies army to keep them preoccupied while you continue to mine and upgrade and let your spell casters/secret plans ready up
lol dude stormed like all of the tanks that he himself recalled in lol. I imagine its hard to suddenly be Terran when you have been toss the entire game. Either way, I bet he was like um... That didn't pan out...
They allowed Dark Archons to mind control builder units for other races because they decided that it wouldn't be imbalanced because the amount of resources necessary to make it work would be overwhelming to the point of where you would win anyway.
@@FalconPaladin yeah, SC remastered is actually 4K. Sometimes when I play a lot and then go back to watch replays I can see blur. And it's even worse when there are SC2 replays ;(. Anyway, I will be watching your replays, just as I was when it was "clean" BroodWar :)
I've always thought that mind controlling an scv was a very viable strategy for P to get an edge in the late game in PvT. we all know T is going to win in a situation where both are 200/200. How about if P gets to 300/400
Man I still play Free for All and with Protoss I always try to get the mix with all three races its fun and hell expensive as well but its always fun. In this specific match the protoss player should have gone for ghost that would have given him him the end
falcon,15:10,when the Dark Archon unload,it doesn't have enough energy to mind control,so he had to get bak his ass back to shuttle
Players commented on the MC ability to be overpowered if it can open alien tech trees to Protoss players, before BW was published, but Blizzard replied that if you have the economy to rock two tech trees in any meaningful way, you've already overpowered your enemy, anyway, so it was left in.
This.
Well you can't argue with that logic
@@ryapowa seems like at really 70% but lets say 50% of pro games come down to huge army max supply fights, and in that case switching your economy supply into an alien race and using them for probe count instead of your main race, hence you have a bigger fighting army...it can become really strong i just dont think players have utilized it enough. i see alot of games also where theyre sending countless drops of dark templar hi templar storming workers reaver drops, if you can pull those off during those max supply fight games- then it makes sense that you can mindcontrol steal a worker..its just not being utilized. its very strong and basically guarantees protoss a win in a long game if they use it i would say. if youre on 150 fighting army supply fighting a 200 fighting army supply 50 terran worker count player-youre going to lose hard.
Morthada is ready to kill the Overmind with that mixed army
Almost the same Team color too.
The “I am Protoss” at the beginning is such foreshadowing lol
22:59 "And what are we producing here?"
*sees 8 tanks queued"
"Just tanks."
XD
Why the question mark? Arbiter recalling a bunch of tanks in siege mode is definitely epic! :D
at 27 minutes Morthada just went out to eat something, it seems
it's funny that the dark shadow had a spider mine near the command center of the morthoda right of the bat, so he scouted it right from the beginning
Mind controlled terran armies should totally get a protoss shield. Merge those technologies!
Maybe if they reduce the units HP/Hull, otherwise it really would be overpowered
Or if they get all 3, tanks fire zerglings
This is so far my very favorite Broodwar match of all time.
The bastard pulled it off.
This should seriously get an epic tag this is one of the most interesting brood war games I've seen
this one was straight out of a fantasy world or something! Halloween or something much? lol
Recalling sieged tanks is the best thing ever
It wasn’t a match between equals. It was just a pro deciding to at last relax and enjoy some slow and long humiliation of an amateur. That explains the murthada’s apm swings between 900 and 90.
LOL many great plays from Morthada, quick DT in base was great, mind control and recall with tanks was great to watch, give us more of these! EPIC for sure
With an APM like that Morthada is on stimpack I guess o.o
smoke weed everyday
This is my 3rd or 4th time watching this. It stands up to watching again and again.
That was the most entertaining video of someone playing with their food I've ever seen
i dont know what was with the "EPIC?" question mark tag but that truly was epic!
That spider mine was a huge plot twist haha so epic
Came here from your cast today, and WOW! That was so much fun to watch. Recalling tanks?! Absolute madness
Very fun! :)
I'm up to the DT rush part, and man, I have to wonder why he didn't go straight for the tanks, and just the tanks. SVC kills are nice, sure, but it's even nicer to have nothing to attack you when scan eventually kicks in. And nothing to keep out other troops. GG.
Idk tbh, if it were me I would try to deny the ComSats from being completed and then continue killing SCVs. Of course I would kill the SCVs that are building turrets as well to deny vision of the DTs as much as possible. But Idk because its been a long time since I played Broodwar and I never really used DTs too often. Usually I would use High Templar or Reavers with Shuttles when I want to kill some workers.
cuz they are newbs
i don't think he wanted to end the game then and there. i think he was just messing with his opponent.
A TvT but one side's tanks can teleport while seiged.
There’s a spider mine at 18:00 I’m sure the enemy can see the mind controlled scv building a command center
Falcon Paladin > Artosis
Whoah I dunno about that, but thanks, Keith. :D
@@FalconPaladin it's about relatability for me. I like that you don't know everything and get excited about (insert spoiler here). Also it's just you monitoring the whole game on your own. Keep up the good work.
those 2 dark templars at the start could've done way more damage if the toss player had better micro.. like attacking the comm satt/missle turrets while they're being built
You've brought this game up a few times, so I had to check it out. I love a good worker mind control game.
Yay!
For some reason all the cool games happen on this particular map.
And I see he only has two matches on here. I hope one day someone finds you some or you find more of them, Falcon. What a unique player, Morthada!
holy hell that 11 tank recall tho
That movie you mentioned was hilarious! I am looking forward to seeing the TV show
Used to do Mind Control tricks way back when. Was always fun just trying to get 400/400
Thanks for the uploads falcon.
No problem, Mr. Clean. :)
Original terran had still a chance to come back, toss guy was being negligent because of perceived superiority and supposed win, too bad he had no reserves
If you steal an upgraded unit with mind control in PvP BW, do you get the upgrades same as you do in the campaigns?
Thank you falcon for this T v T ;)
Big fan of your work...i see on protoss something on nexus...is a special skin?how do i aquire it?THank you
Yes, it's because I pre-ordered StarCraft Remastered. :)
@@FalconPaladin Cheers mate
Hahahaha whaaaat i played vs morthada today and he mentioned you! Had to come and watch this
He did? Awesome. Did he see this cast?
Rave-mode nexus?
As I am watching this game I think of mind control over an allie's army which it can replace. It would take time but it might work. Does it work that way? :)
god, wish we had more Morthada matches, and ones against Flash and the other elites would be HILARIOUS hahaha, even they would be surprised with Morthada's "tricks." LOVE this match and these two players. Hope more unique matches and lesser known players are still out there to find and cast.
Matt Berry always delivers. He is also a great musician.
14:55 Not Enough Energy
Well that explains it. Thanks!
Next before questioning masters sit and think for a moment i sugest. He saced the goons in the first attack to prevent teran from scaning. Then the dark was kept in shuttle if scan come
nice game with that display of mind control and all, but it really should have ended as early as 7:30 when those DTs walked in undisturbed and without any possibility to be detected.
How the fuck did Morthada not win right then and there? Did he not want to? :D
Haha, man this was a crazy game!
Morthada
Aw man, why didn’t Morthada make nukes?? That’s the funniest thing to do with a mind controlled Terran army. Two command centers, double nuke silos, two ghosts, simultaneous nukes in the middle of the enemy’s production. Kiss of death.
That's one checkbox knocked out! Now let's just find infested terrans :D
Why didn't that spider mine kill the mind controlled SCV?
mines don't kill workers, mind controlled or not
Because workers hover! And don't trip mines.
@@FalconPaladin Oh, cool! Thanks!
absolutely epic, because it is so UNIQUE a match, the players are, as well.
How'd it take me a month to find this? Also I like to think that the scv joined the protoss willingly since that was Jim Raynor after escaping tarsonis
What an amazing game! Mind control new race was definitely planned. Super expansion was key!
Maaan! i love this movie about vampires and it crowd is my favorite show.
Badgers we don't need no stinking badgers!
Supplies!
Welcome to Spatula City!
UHF! UHF!
This requires an epic tag!
Done! Sorta!
When your macro is that good you don’t need micro. Just send waves of units to whittle down the enemies army to keep them preoccupied while you continue to mine and upgrade and let your spell casters/secret plans ready up
Ty for your tv suggestions lol.
No problem!
Just 2 more DT's and a bit more focus on killing detection would've ended the game in the 7:00 minute
True! But that's what we get when there aren't pros playing the game. :)
@@FalconPaladin and missed out a lot of fun also! Good cast 💪
Keep em comin' Lazarus 👍🤙
That was the best!
lol dude stormed like all of the tanks that he himself recalled in lol. I imagine its hard to suddenly be Terran when you have been toss the entire game. Either way, I bet he was like um... That didn't pan out...
Why protoss was so passive?
The only good thing was this mind control.
25:53 A stupid move.
26:26 A smart move.
They allowed Dark Archons to mind control builder units for other races because they decided that it wouldn't be imbalanced because the amount of resources necessary to make it work would be overwhelming to the point of where you would win anyway.
I want to see some island map :)
Amazing!
The only way those earless freaks can beat Terran is with Terran
nice game, but imagine to see a recall of tanks on each base at the same time...
i was hoping he would go suprise nuke as soon as he got that scv.
Thanks bro 😊
Any time!
would be hillarious if the victory screen showed his race has terran and protoss
No kidding. :)
Y U NO 4K?;
lol 4k for a 1998 game?
@@FalconPaladin yeah, SC remastered is actually 4K. Sometimes when I play a lot and then go back to watch replays I can see blur. And it's even worse when there are SC2 replays ;(. Anyway, I will be watching your replays, just as I was when it was "clean" BroodWar :)
Well today I learned something. What kind of setup do I need to record in 4K?
16:00 nice
this protoss jusst dont wanna end it early lol,when DT out that's it endgame
bonus points for UHF mention tho....
27:38 he stormed his own tanks )
You're correct in saying that the Protoss should have built Battlecruisers. Would have ended this game faster and humiliate the Terran more.
yes epic! omg thank you lazaros you are my father
Best replay ever
the da at around 15min was waiting for energy to mc =)
I've always thought that mind controlling an scv was a very viable strategy for P to get an edge in the late game in PvT. we all know T is going to win in a situation where both are 200/200. How about if P gets to 300/400
1100 APM in first minute? This can be real?
Spam a hotkey fam
Morthada could have won in 15 minutes
maybe the players should switch names. With those cloaked tank drops, too! Who ARE these two? Jeez, what a DAAAAAAARK match!
Taika Waititi is an amazing New Zealander/Kiwi
Love him. Can't wait to see what he'll do with a Star Wars movie.
UHF is great!
So good!
I just realized that's thhe weird blue.
Recalling already sieged siege tanks 😂 OP
I’m getting a new PC just to play SC remastered, must play, now
There exists a PC that cannot run SC ?!?!?!
This is gonna sound crazy, but tank scout.
it wouldn't be falcon paladin video without thinking the game is to slow
:D
I have done this with zerg and terran i have 600 supply so hard to control them all
in fact BOTH these dudes are, lol, they seem like they would play well, TOGETHER, hahaha. LIVE for the DAAAAAAARK players hahaha.
protoss player could won easy at the beginning if he destroyed the comsat station with his DT
Scbw recall of deployed tanks is more reasonable and realistic than sc2 abducting deployed tanks. But hey, thats awesome game.
1k APM? Are you serious???
EPIC
Top 10 weirdest SC1 matches, maybe top 20 at the lowest.
T V TP
Man I still play Free for All and with Protoss I always try to get the mix with all three races its fun and hell expensive as well but its always fun. In this specific match the protoss player should have gone for ghost that would have given him him the end
IT Crowd is so great
Never thought I’d see one of these in actual pvp. But cmon who hasn’t done it in vs pc for shits and giggles!
When he got that SCV, you know that EPIC tag is simply not enough!