Urbanism Is Not Climate Masochism

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  • Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
  • We once heard a story from a driver in downtown Halifax, Nova Scotia who was annoyed that a cyclist was slowing him down. Do you know what he said? “You’re not saving the environment, buddy.” This was interesting. The assumption was that if you’re on a bike trying to get somewhere you must be doing it for environmental reasons, probably in an annoyingly self-righteous way. But what if it was just a convenient way to get to work without having to worry about parking? What if it was how he spends time with his kids? What if he just enjoys the fresh air and activity? What if he sold a car in order to save money for other priorities? What if he just finds driving unpleasant? None of this occurred to the driver. The assumption was that the cyclist was there on a bike slowing them down for environmental reasons, probably climate change in particular.
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Комментарии • 882

  • @c.i.demann3069
    @c.i.demann3069 Месяц назад +667

    Cars are worried bikes will slow them down. Bikes are worried cars will kill them.

    • @zivkovicable
      @zivkovicable Месяц назад +51

      In my city bikes are faster than cars most of the time. if it wasn't for cars getting in the way bike journeys would be even faster. So would pedestrian journeys for that matter.

    • @jeffreywilliams3421
      @jeffreywilliams3421 Месяц назад +18

      @@irgendwer3610 Its pretty much any city, cars are stopped by lights pretty much everywhere, whereas bikes and pedestrians can just deal with whatever other bike/ped traffic they find if the car wasn't there without stopping (though really heavy bike traffic such as in eastern asia and the subcontinent can require traffic management as well), meanwhile streets themselves often force long 1-5 minute waits (or even longer in some intersections) on pedestrian and bike traffic because cars are so large and so dangerous that managing them overrides all other concerns, not to mention pedestrians often have to funnel themselves toward intersections with crosswalks instead of just crossing where they are because traffic makes impromptu crossing highly dangerous, etc.

    • @antb533
      @antb533 Месяц назад +2

      Paris that way most of the time now..

    • @nabob14
      @nabob14 Месяц назад +12

      Let cyclists ride on the sidewalks.
      Majority of sidewalks outside the DT core are pretty much empty.
      Plus, what would you prefer, a 200lb cyclist getting run over by a 2000lb car, or a 100lb pedestrian getting run into by a 200 lb cyclist? Yes, possibly more minor injuries, but likely no deaths.

    • @BrandtAbsolu
      @BrandtAbsolu Месяц назад +28

      Drivers shouldn't be worried about bikes slowing them down. They do that all on their own.

  • @veggieboyultimate
    @veggieboyultimate Месяц назад +417

    People have gotten so much used to cars that whenever they see other forms of transportation, they ridicule it.

    • @Seacle14
      @Seacle14 Месяц назад +9

      I mean cars are kind of objectively the most convenient, most flexible mode of transport. Once we invent teleportation, we will rightfully ridicule cars.

    • @Distress.
      @Distress. Месяц назад +5

      It's more to do with the fact that cars are losing space but there are no alternatives for a lot of drivers. The local gets to ride their bike, but the commuter just sees a capacity issue get worse. Unfortunately unless you're building a city from scratch, there's going to be winners and losers.

    • @Potatwielder
      @Potatwielder Месяц назад +37

      Flexible? Eh. If I wanted to for example do somehing spontanious with friends, no. Hey, lets go to the bar (drunk driving anyone?)! Oh look how beautiful the old town is, lets just walk around it a bit and maybe figure something out to do along the way (cars make it so you have to return to your parking spot, which can be far away depending on how nice the historic town center was)!

    • @coke8077
      @coke8077 Месяц назад +35

      Because many peope pour way too much money into a car as a status symbol or some kind of self fulfillment, so other forms of transport are seen as attacks on their identity, whether they think this consciously or subconsciously.

    • @theuncalledfor
      @theuncalledfor Месяц назад +30

      @@Distress.
      I commute by train. That's normal in my country. Build proper train networks and your country can do it, too.

  • @HarryLovesRuth
    @HarryLovesRuth Месяц назад +246

    Having an older elementary school kid gives me an easy argument: I want my child to have the ability to go places safely on her bike. That painted bicycle on the shoulder of the four lane highway doesn't meet that criteria.

    • @cooltwittertag
      @cooltwittertag Месяц назад +20

      im glad I was born in a country where I got to safely cycle to all my schools, it made me love cycling and kept me healthy

    • @louisjov
      @louisjov Месяц назад +28

      Honestly that argument needs to get used more because saying "my kids should be able to bike to school!" Would actually resonate with skeptical folks who are willing to hear you out.

    • @haydnplus
      @haydnplus Месяц назад +10

      That is a great point to bring up in any conversation about the safety of cycling in cities. The way I see it, if your child can’t safely ride their bike to school in your city, then that really makes it clear that said city has major problems. In general, children are the best indicators of whether or not a city is good for anyone. If children don’t enjoy being in a certain area, then the adults probably don’t think any better of it.

    • @Descriptor413
      @Descriptor413 Месяц назад +11

      @@louisjov Especially if you can tie it to 50s Americana. "Why don't kids bike to school anymore? Because cars took over in the 60s and 70s and now it's too dangerous." It's part of what I call "Mayberry Urbanism"

    • @louisjov
      @louisjov Месяц назад +8

      @@Descriptor413 I like your label for that!
      Small town America is bike friendly and pedestrian friendly! There's an Alan Jackson song, "Little Man" that's lamenting the loss of small town America, and everything he complains about in the song is a direct result of car dependency.
      Urbanism honestly is probably a misnomer term for all this in a way, because Urban implies city for most people, but in reality small town America is the perfect petri dish to start bringing all this stuff back

  • @mackiefarrell
    @mackiefarrell Месяц назад +346

    I once had a coworker in Ottawa tell me that McKenney's cycling infrastructure proposal was nothing but a waste of money. He said no one wants it, and that he had a bike already but it just sat in his garage. He didn't really know how to respond when I asked if maybe his bike stays in the garage because he doesn't feel safe riding it on our roads.

    • @zeighy
      @zeighy Месяц назад +66

      Should have followed up that silence with "what would make you take that bike out and ride it on our streets? Such a waste you spent money on it and can't use it." Most reasonable people would easily come up with a reason on what kind of change will make them ride a bike. Anyone who can't or don't want to come up with an answer had completely no intention on riding that bike.

    • @theuncalledfor
      @theuncalledfor Месяц назад +65

      Do not measure the need for a bridge by counting the people who swim.

    • @ThomasKane424
      @ThomasKane424 Месяц назад

      I live in Ottawa and I think the bike lanes are stupid because it solves a non existent problem. The advantage to a bike is that you can ride it on the sidewalk OR the road. Not create a whole new lane for a mode of transportation that could be on the existing sidewalks and roads which are plenty wide

    • @ThomasKane424
      @ThomasKane424 Месяц назад +1

      Rideau king Edward btw so right downtown where there’s more bike lanes than parking spots

    • @gabrielmassicotte-rochon9543
      @gabrielmassicotte-rochon9543 Месяц назад +27

      ​@@ThomasKane424that's not true, the bike lane greatly increases ridership because of the added safety and you can go faster than on the sidewalk.
      I can already guess you do not ride your bike to work with comments like these...

  • @JustMikeH
    @JustMikeH Месяц назад +60

    Last weekend I was taking a break in a park to cool down when someone approached me and started a conversation about my bike.
    they were very passionate about cycling and I thought we were having a good conversation. During the conversation I made a passing comment that I stopped driving years ago because I like bicycle touring, and use commuting to keep myself fit. They looked at me incredulously and said, "Oh, you're an environmentalist." then walked away.
    I did not say a single thing about the environment, and I'm still dumbfounded.

    • @freekingfreaking246
      @freekingfreaking246 27 дней назад +3

      This is the world we live in.

    • @willythemailboy2
      @willythemailboy2 25 дней назад

      You fell into the "tell me you're an environmentalist without telling me you're an environmentalist" trap. 99% of the time that is the correct interpretation of what you said.

  • @Coccinelf
    @Coccinelf Месяц назад +74

    I'm really curious what is the percentage of people who buy their first car because they really want to as opposed to because they don't have any choice. A 16 year old kid buying his first second-hand car because he can't wait to go places without his parents driving him around doesn't buy a car by choice.

    • @JChang0114
      @JChang0114 Месяц назад

      Perhaps they don't want to be sexually assaulted on a train or want to deal with a warm tram car smelling of piss.

    • @jaredhamilton8694
      @jaredhamilton8694 Месяц назад +3

      Given the general state of bike and transit infrastructure in North America, most people don’t have a real choice. So at that point, it’s just a question of whether the apathetic count alongside the unwilling (and also how many people are car enthusiasts).

    • @elliotwilliams7421
      @elliotwilliams7421 Месяц назад +1

      Yes they do choose to buy cars

    • @jternowetsky35
      @jternowetsky35 Месяц назад +3

      @elliotwilliams7421 it's not a choice when owning a car is the only practical way to get anywhere.

    • @yorkshirehousewife784
      @yorkshirehousewife784 27 дней назад

      @@elliotwilliams7421 there’s a difference in choosing to buy a car and choosing to use one.
      I own a car, it’s taxed MOT’d and we’re insured all year round.
      I choose to cycle everyday locally (work, shopping, hospital visits, medical and recreation) because it’s quicker to get about my city and its suburbs. It’s cheaper to run and free to park, we also have some safe infrastructure to.
      However, many people in my city don’t know how to get about on bicycle. Because they have spent years travelling by car either being chauffeured and or driving and not going anywhere by foot or bike. They simply don’t know how to navigate the city without a car. They see driving as an only option and the general consensus is: “it’s too dangerous to cycle” because of dangerous people behind the wheel. And they’re not wrong. I’ve uploaded 100’s of video clips to our police force because of dangerous drivers putting my life in danger. I’ve even been hit by a dangerous driver whilst stopped allowing a pedestrian to cross a road in a residential area. He accelerated into me then almost hit a pedestrian on the pavement as a result of hitting me being out of control of his car, driving as a secondary activity. Listening to extremely loud vulgar rap with small children in the car.
      My footage on my bicycle. Was the only evidence of what happened that day.
      Often people choose to Drive because they don’t see any other choice.

  • @CheekyCheeky
    @CheekyCheeky Месяц назад +99

    I often get the idea that some people think that the Netherlands is a bike Valhalla so it must be terrible for driving a car and nobody does it, completely oblivious to the Netherlands having some of the best car infrastructure around.

    • @martijnvds
      @martijnvds Месяц назад +27

      And somehow, we even have "you'll be locked in your 15 minute city" conspiracy theorists!

    • @Quintinohthree
      @Quintinohthree Месяц назад +13

      Honestly, as good as the Netherlands is, much of it is still very car-centric and attempts to change that are not universally accepted.

    • @kaasmeester5903
      @kaasmeester5903 Месяц назад +10

      @@Quintinohthree How much does it have to be changed, and why? We're pretty much at the point where the bike is a viable choice for any journey, if you're willing to ride the distance. Even cross country. The two main reasons to implement further changes seem to be: 1) making the bike a more attractive choice where it makes sense, and 2) road safety for cyclists. We'll be seeing car-free zones, or zones where they are actively discouraged, as well as lower speed limits in cities (30km/h). That's all great... as long as people who do need a car can still use one, or have options to move.

    • @gencreeper6476
      @gencreeper6476 Месяц назад +3

      @@martijnvds
      To be fair though thats a valid concern for Americans. The US gov and most of the local gov down from that hardly do anything without having some nefarious purpose behind it to benefit the American ruling class. I could actually see American cities once they actually run out of room for cars to where theyre forced to change specifically implementing policies that limit people to within 15 min of their designated housing in the name of "keeping order".
      A lot of europeans dont really understand this about the US. I do because I actually live near it. Western europeans (in particular after many wars and revolutions) have the luxury in modern times of assuming the government was established to help the people of the nation even if it fucks up horribly from time to time. America is an outright plantation aristocracy where the government is a tool for the ultra wealthy to wield against everyone else limited only by an ever eroded old constitution. Many Americans have every right to fear a future where theyre gonna be locked in their home and restricted from leaving.
      Basically you need a sane enough society in the first place to even want to have people walk among eachother and not locked behind metal doors. Just trying to drop European wakable infrastructure into the US wont solve these deep societal problems that predated the automobile and actually helped cause the US brand of "car dependence" not the other way around.

    • @FullLengthInterstates
      @FullLengthInterstates Месяц назад

      ​@@Quintinohthreethe main complaint of the netherlands ive seen from urbanists is much of it is unwalkable due to large distances. which i really don't think is a problem when the bike infrastructure is so good. density has other important benefits but if you're unable to travel because you refuse to use wheels, you only have yourself to blame.

  • @SkipGole
    @SkipGole Месяц назад +104

    Whenever I get a compliment for commuting to work, my coworkers sometimes comment on how I’m trying to save the environment. This is not my main reason. I tell how it’s much more pleasant and stress free to ride because there’s no traffic. For example, my commute is always 50 minutes. That never changes. In a car, it can be 20 to 45 minutes, which is stressful, especially after all those relaxing bike rides!

    • @mindstalk
      @mindstalk Месяц назад +9

      Yeah, the _reliability_ of not driving is underrated. What really gets commuters down isn't just a 45 minute commute but having to plan for a 45 minute drive even when it's normally 20 or 30. Walking and biking don't have that problem; grade-separated trains usually shouldn't either. (Buses in traffic do.)

    • @tsubadaikhan6332
      @tsubadaikhan6332 Месяц назад +6

      Also, how is your fitness and mobility compared to theirs after a couple of years? Bad knees limit me to e-bikes that people scoff at, but I like being able to eat an extra piece of chocolate cake without feeling guilty, or paying for a gym membership I wouldn't use. Plus, my city is on a river. I've discovered dozens of beautiful little oasis's, buildings and even artworks.

  • @blubberblubb
    @blubberblubb Месяц назад +44

    I can't blame the car owners. It's really hard to understand without experiencing firsthand. We sold our family car and switched to bikes thinking we'd make a noble sacrifice. Boy was I wrong. There is an indescribable quality to getting around by bike. I never expected this, but switching to bicycles has been a reward instead of a sacrifice.

    • @elliotwilliams7421
      @elliotwilliams7421 Месяц назад +1

      What's hard to understand?

    • @hankboog462
      @hankboog462 24 дня назад +1

      ​@elliotwilliams7421 a lot of people have so little experience with good transit and bike infrastructure that they literally have no idea how nice it can be and just assume they're only good for people who can't or won't drive

  • @Moondymon23
    @Moondymon23 Месяц назад +38

    the 15 minute cities thing is so ridiculous. "Hey, how about changing zoning so we can put a coffee shop in this residential area?" "Oh no you're trying to trap me in my neighbourhood!!!"

    • @Novusod
      @Novusod Месяц назад

      The 15 minute city conspiracy came out of backlash from the World Economic Forum's agenda 2030 in which they stated "It is 2030, you will own nothing and be happy." They proposed 15 minute cities in which all of life's necessities would be packaged as subscriptions so people who live there own nothing. The random youtuber may think it is just about coffee shops but the Billionaires with vast political influence are saying the opposite. It is about creating captive consumers, restricting freedom, dispossessing people of their property so the rich can extract more value from our lives. Anyone who doesn't bend the knee will be tossed into the gutter (homelessness) because they don't have any safety nets to fall back on. It is a total dystopia if you understand what they are planning.

    • @yorkshirehousewife784
      @yorkshirehousewife784 Месяц назад +6

      😜 absurd ha? Almost as good as: “no I won’t have a vaccine 💉 because bill gates wants to put a chip in me to track my every move!”
      Whilst playing on a smart phone 📱 tada!🎉

    • @simpo558
      @simpo558 27 дней назад +5

      Right!!! Making apartments and shops within walking distance makes idiots feel like we're getting trapped in a 15 minute city. It's truly pathetic that so many people believe this and spread it to other plebs

    • @dragon_nammi
      @dragon_nammi 27 дней назад +2

      ​@@yorkshirehousewife784 oh my god it's exactly like this

    • @annaolsson5441
      @annaolsson5441 4 дня назад +2

      Love to be able to go outside my door and get a coffee and some baked fresh goods from the local bakery, walk to the one of the closer restaurants which is 5 -10 min walk together with my husband on a beautiful evening and be able to see the stars and have the choice to walk or use the buss, bike, tram or sometimes rent a car to me that is freedom...

  • @hngldr
    @hngldr Месяц назад +37

    For years I was a full blown climate denialist libertarian but still biked to work because I thought it was insanely inefficient and silly to drive to the gym to hop on a stationary bike.
    I also thought it was crazy to wear down one of the most expensive things you can own just to go a couple miles down the road and be stuck in traffic and not get fresh air.
    To me biking was freeing to my finances, time, and physically.
    I continued to do it even in far-flung suburbs because it was that much of an obvious winning choice.
    While I now am the total opposite of a climate denialist, during the time I was biking was still a stupefyingly obvious win

    • @dominicgunderson
      @dominicgunderson 16 дней назад

      May I ask how you went from climate denialist to, well, not a climate denialst lol.

    • @hngldr
      @hngldr 16 дней назад

      @@dominicgunderson Sure! So my mindset at the time was a combination a couple things. First was not thinking the science was fully clear - not in the sense of thinking CO2 wasn't going up, wasn't a bad thing, or wasn't causing these effects, but that the extent and severity of effects being caused by it might not be as bad as some think because so much has to be put together to extrapolate good nunbers for those effects that the margin for error is probably high. Basically I thought CO2 was going up and was causing some of these effects, but wasn't sure it was going to be so bad.
      Second, I thought that even if the effects were that bad that we would probably be able to survive and even thrive - I thought the climate scientists extrapolating effects on society were too disconnected from society to accurately predict how it would respond or what the tools of society were - similar to how often renowned physicists start talking about politics or engineering and are EXTREMELY wrong (but get asked a lot because they're smart and people don't tend to understand the nuance of being smart only in a particular area).
      Basicalmy I thought that yes stuff was happening, but wasn't confident it was as bad or for the reasons scientists said, and I had lots of confidence that even if it was as bad as they said that we would figure it out.
      What changed my mind was when Tom Scott made a video covering Kurtis Baute's video where he traps himself in a biosphere box where the plants try to keep up with his breathing in order to talk about the effects. The key thing was he just talked about the effects on our brains of higher CO2 - something I already knew was extremely well studied by NASA for Apollo, many universities for their classrooms, and many businesses for their cubicles. In it, he goes on to show that we are on pace to lose roughly 15% of our cognitive problem solving skills by 2050 if memory serves.
      This hit during the peak of COVID when there was a LOT of stupid people who didn't understand nuance AT ALL (lots of toilet paper hoarders and people filling flimsy plastic bags with gasoline). Before you ask, I wasn't by any means an anti-masker or anti-vaxxer or anything - I found it annoying when people overblew effects to make COVID out to be like the black plague but more contagious, but I also thought it was very important because we didn't know the long-term effects and because even if it was only like the flu, if every single person in a city (including the doctors) has the flu at the exact same time and no medicine is available, that is very deadly.
      Me seeing that video then couldn't have had better timing - it made it very clear to me that the human race would NOT survive getting any dumber. It also made me start looking at climate change through a new lense - the one I had been looking at COVID through. With COVID I could see how even a flu-like disease could be extremely deadly if it hits everywhere at once and nothing is done. It also let me see that engineering and inventing wasn't enough if people were politically stupid - that you couldn't bail out a sinking ship without plugging the holes no matter how good a bucket you invented. It also was easier to understand how even slightly higher CO2 levels and a few degrees could affect our problem solving that much when having to wear a mask daily - I didn't think masks have long term health impacts or anything (obviously surgeons are fine and wear them daily), but even if it was just the warmth on my face I felt very sleepy and foggy. Who knows, maybe I also had effects from my earlier bought of COVID.
      Eventually it let me finally see that it wasn't just that we would all get bad brain fog from high CO2 levels but that even if we could survive just fine - our food supply won't, so it wouldn't matter.
      Lastly is something I only recently stumbled on the words for...
      When I was in my early 20's, I was very depressed and wanted to die but didn't have it in me. I was struggling to found joy in things but was able to find brief bits of joy in massive amounts of junk food. I consciously made the decision to eat as much junk food as possible every day until I could either be happy in other ways or hopefully just speedrun a heart attack or stroke, thinking those would be relatively quick deaths (thinking back on it I was insane).
      Instead I got diverticulitis - a disease you normally don't get till your 70's or 80's. I was told I would need a poop bag for the rest of my life. I asked what I could do and 2 doctors both said it was so bad that it was pointless to try and that I'd need it within months.
      It is now many years later and I'm doing great! But the lesson I learned (and only recently found the words for) is that:
      When you trash your body like that - you don't have a short but great time and then die young and happy. No, you live miserably for YEARS.
      If I had gotten the poop bag, I probably would have lived almost as long as if I had never done that stupidity but in a lot more misery - I probably would've just committed suicide or otherwise let myself die.
      I believe the same applies to our planet now - if we just ignore the problems or worse double down on them with a suicidal "enjoy life & die young" mentality we won't suddenly one day get this movie-like apocalypse that while sad is at least pretty and movie-like. I think that when told the scary effects of climate change - many deniers imagine it that way and conclude "So what? Sounds like our choices are to live miserably or definitely enjoy ourselves but maybe die young." They think if they're wrong (and they aren't sure they are), that at least our death would be quick, short, and fun/pretty (in a sense). Just like me we would instead all live miserably for DECADES before dying. Or maybe the world would just commit suicide via nukes with all the added stress and reduced cognitive ability.
      So now I extend that philosophy to the world - if we trash it having fun, we won't die young having lived a short but fun life and die in some sudden sad but fun/pretty/poetic apocalypse. No we will live in ugly misery for decades until we slowly die in misery or just off ourselves with nukes under the stress. And even if we try to fix it, the longer we wait the the weaker we will be and more susceptible to problems that should have been easy (the equivalent of going to the bathroom being easy until you have a poop bag).
      I'm living proof though that not only is it never too late toomake improvements to your life and turn things around, but that there is joy in doing so. I have never lived more in opposite to a "live fast, die young" mentality and I've also never been happier or more able to handle problems thrown my way

  • @shawnray2436
    @shawnray2436 Месяц назад +23

    "You're not saving the environment, buddy" Not to mention some people are legally not allowed to drive cars but may be able to ride bikes.

    • @LoneHowler
      @LoneHowler Месяц назад +8

      My uncle couldn't drive because of a brain injury. He got everywhere in the city by bike

    • @Stroporez
      @Stroporez 28 дней назад +4

      "I'm not your buddy, guy!"

  • @kevley26
    @kevley26 Месяц назад +176

    Babe wake up, our favorite urbanist couple just uploaded!

    • @noahkidd3359
      @noahkidd3359 Месяц назад +9

      I love this channel because it's one of the only non-obnoxious urbanist channels on RUclips.

    • @sarahbezold2008
      @sarahbezold2008 Месяц назад +6

      oh they're a couple? that's really cute. I assumed they were just cohosts

    • @Zyo117
      @Zyo117 Месяц назад +4

      Where did this 'babe wake up' meme even come from, and why is she always asleep?

    • @kevley26
      @kevley26 Месяц назад +4

      @@sarahbezold2008 I don't actually know if they've said it before, but I'm pretty sure they've said stuff like "we moved to Montreal" which implies a relationship

    • @frempy4426
      @frempy4426 Месяц назад

      @@noahkidd3359What you don’t like someone living in Europe talking about how much of a loser you are for living in North America?

  • @weezersthebluealbum9479
    @weezersthebluealbum9479 Месяц назад +189

    This is just another example of people with car brain unable to comprehend that not everyone wants to drive a car.

    • @Retro_Duck08
      @Retro_Duck08 Месяц назад

      weezer

    • @موسى_7
      @موسى_7 Месяц назад +8

      Tbh a cyclist in car dependent or car infested places is most likely an environmentalist. Nobody in their right mind would inconvenience and risk their lives so much without purpose.

    • @cach9013
      @cach9013 Месяц назад +30

      @@موسى_7bikes are also cheaper than cars. Another factor.

    • @jetaddict420
      @jetaddict420 Месяц назад +5

      My only problem is that all pro bike people seem to be anti car as well and dont want a healthy mix of transport options

    • @LouisChang-le7xo
      @LouisChang-le7xo Месяц назад +20

      @@jetaddict420 yeah because cars are the things that make biking miserable

  • @j.s.7335
    @j.s.7335 Месяц назад +63

    It never would have occurred to me that biking could only be about the environment. When I was growing up, my dad had been biking to work for over 20 years. It was exercise, less stressful, and it allowed the family to save money by owing only 1 car. I don't think he once mentioned the environment as a reason, since that was back before anyone considered climate change!

    • @abcdeshole
      @abcdeshole Месяц назад +10

      The mainstream constantly frames anything cycling or urbanism in climate change terms. It’s like there are no other issues with car dependency.

    • @CascadiaBC
      @CascadiaBC Месяц назад +1

      My dad cycle commuted to work in the 1970's and '80s from Vancouver to Lake City in Burnaby, 5 days a week, a true pioneer cycle commuter. I guarantee you he never did it for the 'environment'.

  • @langhamp8912
    @langhamp8912 Месяц назад +100

    The complaining about 15-minute cities is only exceeded by how car dealerships are ripping people off.

    • @hankboog462
      @hankboog462 Месяц назад +26

      I genuinely kinda think that the 15 minute city backlash at least started as some sort of corporate psyop

    • @jamesphillips2285
      @jamesphillips2285 Месяц назад

      @@hankboog462 More likely anti-WEF (code for anti-jewish) hate.

    • @12pentaborane
      @12pentaborane Месяц назад +24

      I don't see it as complaining, I think it's an actively harmful delusion those conspiracy theorists spread.

    • @zilfondel
      @zilfondel Месяц назад

      I'd be willing to bet that the auto industry is the one paying for the misinformation campaign, like the oil industry has done for solar and EVs.

    • @FullLengthInterstates
      @FullLengthInterstates Месяц назад +7

      The entire car ownership experience from purchase to repairs is riddled with greed. Ordering a bike through a major retailer is definitely a simpler, more transparent process.

  • @Bismvth
    @Bismvth Месяц назад +19

    This is a really crucial piece of messaging for the release of our city's Calgary Plan - basically the closest thing our city has to a constitution, and we're replacing it soon! It enshines walkability, wheelability, and transit efficiency just as important as car mobility. It's not about making cars worse (though you do need to remove space for cars to achieve these goals meaningfully), it's about finally not prioritizing any mode over another, and making all forms of mobility viable and convenient for everyone.
    "I have to drive because XYZ" is just another way to say "Transit hasn't quite considered folks with XYZ yet." But we CAN, and we WILL!

  • @melissahalle8398
    @melissahalle8398 Месяц назад +61

    It's weird that more people don't talk about the success story that is the province of quebec with 100% renewables. It's an interesting story and proves it is possible.

    • @beardannyboy
      @beardannyboy Месяц назад +14

      Because it isn't reproducible. Quebec did it through hydro power, which is dependant on their particular geography. Places without that particular geography can't copy what Quebec has done.

    • @noseboop4354
      @noseboop4354 Месяц назад +5

      Quebec is blessed with lots of elevated rivers that can be harvested for hydro. The same model won't work in places like Saskatchewan.
      And nuclear power? Good luck convincing the federal government to invest in that. And private companies won't touch it due to insurance issues.

    • @Whatneeds2bsaid
      @Whatneeds2bsaid Месяц назад +6

      Not really. Hydropower doesn’t have the same intermittency issues as other renewables and is highly location dependent. Even comparing it to Ontario, while I have no issues with nuclear, others may disagree, and if they shut down their nuclear plant (like Germany) they’d have a massive clean energy supply shortage with no obvious way to replace it.
      I say all that to say: Quebec is a green grid on easy mode. Other places have to work a lot harder to replicate their success.

    • @baddriversofcolga
      @baddriversofcolga Месяц назад +1

      I think it should come with the caveat that hydro is quite bad for the health of rivers. But I think other renewables are totally doable as well if you have political will.

    • @dez7800
      @dez7800 Месяц назад +4

      @@baddriversofcolga Sure, but hydro still remains better than non-renewables and it solves the problem of intermittency that solar and wind farms deal with. As for Nuclear, you have to manage the radioactive waste which isn't ideal. In sum, hydro is a great energy source and Quebec is lucky to have a terrain that facilitates it, but it still had to develop it. I'm sure other areas have the potential for it but haven't built it yet.

  • @Mrnevertalks
    @Mrnevertalks Месяц назад +63

    4:40 that's the same comment I made on that video. It was well intentioned, but it isn't the job of Canadians to tell Americans where and how to get involved locally.
    Also, I do find it silly how derisive some drivers can be of other modes of transport when the majority of what I hear from them are complaints about parking, traffic, or costly repairs. Drivers don't even make driving sound appealing!

    • @mindstalk
      @mindstalk Месяц назад +3

      The biggest enemy of drivers is other drivers.

  • @Interrobang2626
    @Interrobang2626 Месяц назад +65

    The best perk: You can bring your bike onto public transit. This gives you quick and convenient access to the entire city without having to worry about traffic.

    • @mariusvanc
      @mariusvanc Месяц назад +1

      Ok, and when more than 2 people want to do this at the same time?

    • @Maniac8275
      @Maniac8275 Месяц назад +14

      @@mariusvanc You run more trains. Or have space on the trains specifically for bikes. Or limit bikes during rush hour. Do you really think no city has ever come up with a solution to this?

    • @quackywhackityphillyb.3005
      @quackywhackityphillyb.3005 Месяц назад +1

      @@mariusvanc use a skateboard

    • @FullLengthInterstates
      @FullLengthInterstates Месяц назад +7

      ​@@Maniac8275 the biggest benefit of trains over buses etc is adding a railcar to add more space incurs very low marginal cost. if the train is filled by bikes, that becomes a very good justification to run even more trains and improve convenience for everyone. unfortunately cities would rather ban bikes on trains from the busiest areas instead of running more trains. bikes on trains does not have much traction, even among pro transit communities. so bikes on trains will remain a novelty that can only be experienced on some suburban lines.

    • @theosiris4179
      @theosiris4179 Месяц назад +4

      @@FullLengthInterstates It's like induced demand on a highway, but the results are much more pleasant

  • @chefnyc
    @chefnyc Месяц назад +79

    I don’t care about much about saving gas because I don’t drive during the weekdays. I am fine driving on the weekends. But I am still a big fan of walkable neighborhoods, middle income housing, biking and public transit.

    • @ab8817
      @ab8817 Месяц назад

      >walkable neighborhoods
      >middle income
      pick one

    • @Quadfractum
      @Quadfractum Месяц назад +20

      @@ab8817 Why would a middle income walkable neighborhood not be attainable? If anything it would be easier to have both, rather than a middle income car dependant neighborhood, as you would liklely have more people living closer together, with smaller and cheaper to maintain roads, among other cheaper amenities.

    • @ab8817
      @ab8817 Месяц назад +2

      @@Quadfractum do i really have to explain why new developments are built for profit today and capital investors and developers have zero interest in affordability or "urbanism"

    • @chefnyc
      @chefnyc Месяц назад +4

      Sorry I meant “middle housing” and I don’t want to edit my original comment to ensure the replies are still valid. Basically not highrise, not single family house. Something like 3-6 stories apartment buildings. They make sense in terms of developer profits as well (if allowed)

    • @user-uo7fw5bo1o
      @user-uo7fw5bo1o Месяц назад +2

      ​@@ab8817 In a lot of cities in the United States you have neither walkable neighborhoods nor middle income housing! The auto-centric suburban sprawl has got that expensive especially in places like Miami and Los Angeles.

  • @lej_explains
    @lej_explains Месяц назад +24

    100% - I often find people are more convincible when you approach biking/transit from the lack of stress, happiness, connection, and money saving angles rather than larger societal reasons. (Kinda similar to getting people to try eating plant based - don’t tell them they need to to save the world, just say you felt physically better.
    Now if we could just make urbanist experiences safer (concrete bike lanes and dealing with semi-frequent harassment/crime on some metros) we’d be set in convincing a lot more.

    • @jamesphillips2285
      @jamesphillips2285 Месяц назад +3

      The crime thing is just a case of crime maps being population maps.
      In many cities 1 person could get murdered every month on the train: and it would STILL be safer than driving!

    • @gencreeper6476
      @gencreeper6476 Месяц назад +3

      Yes however one thing is biking enthusiasts are prone to the exact same thinking as car enthusiasts in thinking that everyone will enjoy it. I've never enjoyed riding a bicycle and somehow thats a valid stance to take on everything from driving to boating to flying to motorcycles but the moment your response to "why dont you bike" is "I dont like it" its somehow considered weird even by people who dont even bike themselves. To me theyre barely faster than walking, theyre still something you can get hurt (rarely killed even) riding and they still carry the drawback of having to find a spot to "park" it and go back to it plus having to balance it. My dream if I had to have a city would be having all private vehicles including bicycles be second class compared to having almost every street set up for streetcars (totally replacing buses), and pedestrians with a network of skytrains and subways instead of freeways for faster longer journeys. Private vehicles then get space allocated on a needs basis (eg workers carrying tools, deliveries). That really translates to you probably still get to bike most places in the city most of the day and have it be way safer it just means that if need be your bicycle will be stopped so the pedestrians and streetcars can go never the other way around.
      Transit and pedestrian needs to be at the absolute top of the "hierarchy" not bikes which are still private vehicles that not everyone wants to drive.

    • @FullLengthInterstates
      @FullLengthInterstates Месяц назад +2

      ​@@jamesphillips2285 half true: per capita crime rates are higher in US cities, though this often does not factor in the difference in terms of daytime population when all the non resident tourists and suburban commuters flood into the city. So its not the same as a population map, but urban crime rates are inflated due to ignoring the visitors who literally double the city's occupants.

  • @TheManOfPeace999
    @TheManOfPeace999 Месяц назад +8

    I couldn't imagine WANTING to drive in downtown Halifax and then complaining about someone on a bike

  • @philrichmond5919
    @philrichmond5919 Месяц назад +71

    When you hear people say things like that, it’s not that they believe anyone is doing it for the environment. All they care about is privilege, the promise of having a car is to go where and when you want faster than other people can. Which of course is a lie, because if everyone has one you’re not better than any of them. But what’s worse is having bought privilege is to learn you don’t actually get to enjoy it, and having people on bicycles going about their day just as easily as you without the expense is just a reminder you were duped. Being able to go faster is just the release to feel superior, and when the cyclist rides past you again when you’re stopped by traffic it’s easier to malign them than yourself.

    • @Distress.
      @Distress. Месяц назад +1

      Not true at all, there's a ton of urbanists who constantly preach that they're saving the planet with bikes or trains.

    • @patriot9487
      @patriot9487 Месяц назад +9

      @@Distress. they are, and it's not about the environment. It's objectively better in everyway. Better fiscally, better for our physical health, our mental health. ect

    • @Distress.
      @Distress. Месяц назад

      @@patriot9487 clearly not in comfort and convenience.

    • @nikhilsrl
      @nikhilsrl Месяц назад +6

      ​@@Distress.Ignorance talking. Bikes are way more convenient for shorter trips within the city. If good transit exists bike + transit trumps cars in convenience and comfort.

    • @clobberelladoesntreadcomme9920
      @clobberelladoesntreadcomme9920 Месяц назад +4

      I ride my bike to work and pick up the work vehicle I need to drive that day. While I'd rather be getting around by bike, I don't feel this weird jealousy that the straw-man driver in your head seems to feel. I just acknowledge that for hauling thousands of pounds of equipment from work site to work site, you need a car, and for hauling just yourself, your lunch and a bottle of water, a bike is superior. Urbanist take note: this us vs them attitude does not exist in places with good public transit and bike infrastructure because people just chose the mode that works best for them that day.

  • @oldbrokenhands
    @oldbrokenhands Месяц назад +7

    My father had a stroke over ten years ago, and I believe the one thing that kept him going after that was that he was motivated to walk again. Sadly he had to walk in the street because the sidewalks in Dallas are atrocious.
    Now as I'm getting older I find myself with lower back problems and trying to stay active and researching biking to replace the jogging that I can no longer participate in.
    You're correct in stating it's not just about saving the environment, urbanism and advocating for other modes of transit is also a way of saving folks via the therapy of outdoor exercise, bike commuting, and mass transit.

    • @crowmob-yo6ry
      @crowmob-yo6ry Месяц назад

      Cara Mendelsohn is pure evil. I hate her so much!!

  • @funshine9892
    @funshine9892 Месяц назад +13

    I bike to work every day because its the cheapest way to get there .

  • @manlan8
    @manlan8 Месяц назад +21

    When I started biking to work 24 years ago, my main reasons were that I was watching cyclists pass my bus on the way to work, I wanted to increase my physical activity, and it looked like fun. When I sold my car 2 years later, the main reason was to save money. Having less impact on the environment was just a bonus.

    • @DocScience2
      @DocScience2 Месяц назад

      several decades ago, I was in a city where I missed getting on the bus as it passed. I sprinted for a couple blocks and caught up to the bus, and got on it. I often wondered if that bus was always that slow.

  • @Gary_C
    @Gary_C Месяц назад +10

    Walking is way better for the environment. So every time you see someone walking be sure to heckle them about their political agenda. EVERY TIME.

  • @rvallenduuk
    @rvallenduuk Месяц назад +10

    I'm all for the environment and all that, but the main two reasons I cycle in Dublin are that it's faster and cheaper to get around town on two wheels.
    Infrastructure has improved a lot over the 25 years I'm here but it's still non-existant in many places and shite in others. They just don't get it. Bike theft is rife and the police don't care. People park in bike lanes and the police don't care. They park in bike lanes and on footpaths themselves to go and get a coffee.
    And still I cycle...

  • @The2wanderers
    @The2wanderers Месяц назад +8

    A person riding a bike isn't going to save the environment. But increasing cycling mode share from 1-2% to 20-30% in large cities around the world can make a substantial difference.

  • @BTC0288
    @BTC0288 Месяц назад +7

    I've been car-less in Minneapolis for 35 years now and it's been all about the Benjamins($). I paid off my house in less than 20 years, funded a very healthy retirement account and traveled overseas on holiday more than 50 times (not so great for the environment). I'm slightly overweight but I would probably be morbidly obese if I didn't use my bike to get around for much of the year. Finally I just really, really enjoy riding my bike.

  • @vulduv
    @vulduv Месяц назад +12

    I personally find that it's more effective to treat envirmentalism as more of a footnote when talking about urbanism publically. I strongly agree that the face of urbanism should be the increased livability and the economic benefits. Environmentalists also generally know that transit, walking, micromobility and such are already quite environmentally friendly. So you won't get the opposite effect of having those groups assuming that the added livability of urbanism comes at some cost to the environment.
    Also on the point about the Nth review's video, while I don't completely agree with it, I do agree that urbanist youtubers don't mention actual activism enough. (Though that's definitively a complaint I have much more with some other channels.)
    I think that even though activism is indeed a very local thing, I don't think it's pointless to show viewers groups and resources that may not be local to them. As simply showing that these kinds of groups exist and what they look like, can prompt people into looking up things that _are_ local to them. And even just showing people that it is possible for them to do more, and getting that on their minds, can push some people towards actually doing more.
    It doesn't need to be the focus of an entire video, and definitively not every video, god no. As you two say, it's very important to get examples of successful urbanism out there. But I think even just passively mentioning the activist groups involved in success stories, providing links to such groups and resources (Even better if its in an *i* card.), and such things would go a long way towards spurring on more proper activism in people who otherwise would remain fairly passive.
    Does what I'm saying make sense? Am I missing anything, or does anything I said require clarification?

    • @AnotherDuck
      @AnotherDuck Месяц назад

      The channel that's the best at highlighting actual and local activism is absolutely Strong Towns. Though that's also the main purpose of the channel, so it makes sense.

  • @oynion
    @oynion Месяц назад +90

    extreme individualism and corporate propaganda is what made americans so brainwashed about cars

    • @roshanramesh2634
      @roshanramesh2634 Месяц назад +19

      And lack of social responsibility.

    • @skurinski
      @skurinski Месяц назад +4

      or we just prefer cars. Funny how that works

    • @skurinski
      @skurinski Месяц назад +2

      or we just prefer cars. Pretty simple

    • @baddriversofcolga
      @baddriversofcolga Месяц назад +26

      @@skurinski How can you prefer something when the built environment gives you no choice?

    • @Ry_TSG
      @Ry_TSG Месяц назад +13

      @@skurinski You prefer cars over walking or biking on the side of a highway of 4 lane stroad? Of course you do, because that's the only thing that the infrastructure is built for. But would you still prefer cars if the place you lived in made walking, biking, and transit safe, convenient, clean, fast, and inexpensive? Possibly, but it's impossible to know that unless you've experienced it, and I'd be willing to bet that if you could experience that, you would use other methods of transportation at least sometimes in addition to driving. That's the beauty of building walkable cities; you at least have the choice of how to get around, unlike in car centric places where that choice was made for you.

  • @travisbassett1084
    @travisbassett1084 Месяц назад +4

    There is really good podcost near me where they interview different people who cannot drive for different reasons (anxiety, other medical conditions, too old, too young or income), and the impact it has on their lives. It's a low social economic area and way out of town - it's interesting how they discuss transport is designed around men - going to work and home again. One point they make is city planners should spend time getting around with a pram, in a wheelchair, riding - actually catching the public transport to try and get between multiple medical appointments, as part of the process.

  • @Lunarl4ndr
    @Lunarl4ndr Месяц назад +4

    Takes me seven minutes to ride to work and ten minutes to drive and no need to find parking, added time. As a pedestrian I can go through lights when it is safe or take non-streets. Plus heart health or something.

  • @richardg8651
    @richardg8651 Месяц назад +3

    I don't share all your biking enthusiasms but thank you for giving me a new perspective with the "eat your peas" criticism. I have been guilty of this outlook.

    • @AnotherDuck
      @AnotherDuck Месяц назад +1

      I like bikes, I like peas, and I like people who can reflect on themselves.

  • @futurerails8421
    @futurerails8421 Месяц назад +4

    The thing is here in Europe a lot of urbanists propose highly untactical things that generate a lot of resistance and make it much harder to get approval for later infrastructure projects be it for cycling or transit.
    For example many urbanists in Germany want to impose a speed limit on the famous Autobahn and in The Netherlands they went so far to even lower the speed to just 100kp/h at certain times. It gets even more absurd in Berlin where the Green Party opposed subway tunneling because of CO2 emissions.Not all urbanists are like this but those who are are extremly loud and those who aren't dont speak against the extremists in their own rows.
    It is extremly frustrating to see Nimbys activists having success turning average people to their side and manipulate them to stop for example light rail projects just because those average people got angry over mainly symbolic anti car measurements.

    • @OhTheUrbanity
      @OhTheUrbanity  Месяц назад +5

      The "urbanists" against subways are unfortunately very much a thing here in Canada too

    • @bramvanduijn8086
      @bramvanduijn8086 Месяц назад

      The Dutch limit of 100 kp/h probably didn't negatively affect transit time at all, what with everyone getting stuck in traffic anyway, so putting it back to 130 kp/h was pure populism. The 100 kp/h rule could have reduced the number of accidents, it would definitely have improved engine efficiency, and it may even have positively affected transit time because changing lanes is easier at lower speeds. But we will never know for sure because populists hate trying something out for a decade or two before judging it.

    • @futurerails8421
      @futurerails8421 21 день назад +1

      ​@@bramvanduijn8086 Im not saying speed limits on highways have no effect but instead such decisions can endanger projects for cycling and transit as a side effect.
      I don't know how it is in the Netherlands but here in Germany a small majority wants a speed limit while a substantial minority is firmly against it.
      The small majority includes many people who don't even drive while Highways are fully grade seperated in Germany.
      Those people could become angry if a speed limit it forced on them as it could feel like "Those who don't even drive are interfering with a car only road" and then those people could go after any infrastructure project for sustainable mobillity as a revenge.
      It's better to use the desire for no speed limit on the Autobahn in Germany or higher speed limits on highways in the Netherlands to negotiate other improvements. Like for example more high speed rail and substantially lower speeds limits on country roads where head on collisions are a major problem, cyclists share the road with cars and both cyclists and pedestrians need to cross the sometimes.

  • @Chomp-Rock
    @Chomp-Rock Месяц назад +3

    'How do you know do deliveries'
    The same way we do now only faster because the trucks don't get stuck in rush hour traffic.

  • @j.vanderson6239
    @j.vanderson6239 Месяц назад +2

    I am a senior and I bike every day for everything. Not because of the environment but simply because it keeps my body and brain healthy.

  • @RobRoordink
    @RobRoordink Месяц назад +9

    In the Netherlands there is a saying What the farmer doesn’t know, he doesn’t eat. North American fanatic drivers have blinders. They should see Not just bikes on RUclips the episode Driving is way better here. Driving in the Netherlands is way better. It’s a country where roads are designed not only for cars but for pedestrians, bikers, public transport and drivers. And it proves to be saver and nicer for drivers too. I live 4 miles from the city center. There I take a coffee with my wife and friend. I can choose between driving, biking, walking or public transport. It’s all very save. That’s freedom. When it is not raining I prefer the bike.

    • @crowmob-yo6ry
      @crowmob-yo6ry Месяц назад +1

      NJB sucks. He's too angry and hateful.

    • @RobRoordink
      @RobRoordink Месяц назад +1

      @@crowmob-yo6ry hè is

    • @bramvanduijn8086
      @bramvanduijn8086 Месяц назад

      @@crowmob-yo6ry I would say frustrated is more accurate than angry and hateful. And that's understandable.

    • @mindstalk
      @mindstalk Месяц назад

      @@crowmob-yo6ry NJB is great and awesome. He's angry at things that _should_ make you angry.

  • @matthewlafrance8817
    @matthewlafrance8817 Месяц назад

    Thanks for including footage from Edmonton. That city is very underrated. Nice to see the recognition 😊

  • @JesusChrist-qs8sx
    @JesusChrist-qs8sx Месяц назад +3

    I think part of the reason - and something that urbanists have to get better at - is a lot of the urbanist messaging, and broader urban groups, have a tendency to lean more liberal, and that typically ends up reflecting in their content. There are exceptions, of course, and some are worse than others (and some embrace it, which I'll always respect) but by and far, most urbanist channels tend to be "liberal coded". Inevitably, on the internet, where everything gets taken to extremes, that ends up meaning it becomes another red vs blue, my team vs your team, conservative vs liberal, issue, when the reality is it's anything but that - it's not even exclusively a city thing! Small towns are just as urban as city neighborhoods, at least ideally.

    • @bramvanduijn8086
      @bramvanduijn8086 Месяц назад +1

      I've heard it said that reality has a liberal bias.

  • @nerdzone
    @nerdzone Месяц назад +39

    What kind of mockery attempt even is "You are not saving the planet, buddy"? It sounds petty as hell.

    • @user-xg6zz8qs3q
      @user-xg6zz8qs3q Месяц назад +6

      Yeah, well ask them about insurance & gas. Cycling is the cheapest method of transportation by a long shot. It makes riding the bus feel like a racket. I can spend 88€ on a monthly transit pass or buy a serviced used bike for 150€. Car insurance alone would be 100€ per month just to have the car.

    • @baddriversofcolga
      @baddriversofcolga Месяц назад +6

      It's strange because it's simply wrong. And the guy in the car is definitely doing the opposite of saving the environment.

    • @user-xg6zz8qs3q
      @user-xg6zz8qs3q Месяц назад +8

      @@baddriversofcolga You're not gonna convince anybody talking about ethics and the environment. It's especially true with conservatives. The media is owned by billionaires and is far-right/conservative leaning. To put it bluntly, the environment isn't a bother until it is. Money is the most important thing in the universe right now, far above ethics, the environment and personal happiness. You can never have too much money. Everyone is a billionaire in the making. All problems can be solved by the individual, as the self help books say. Yaddi, yadda. Tell that idiot "Your car is making you poor. Dave Ramsey said so". That's how you reach the stone cold heart of a conservative.

    • @baddriversofcolga
      @baddriversofcolga Месяц назад +1

      @@user-xg6zz8qs3q Oh, I know! It's deeply unfortunate that people don't care about the environment that they live in, but alas...

    • @user-uo7fw5bo1o
      @user-uo7fw5bo1o Месяц назад +4

      When he says that, a good reply would be, "The corporations and Conservatives got you right where they want you!"

  • @ethananderson4348
    @ethananderson4348 Месяц назад +1

    I recently had a great conversation with some friends regarding environmentalism. I've had a long standing opinion that there must be a change in lifestyle for the greater society to reduce energy consumption (since it is cheaper than increasing energy production). This viewpoint is entirely sacrificial, and when you live in an auto-oriented region like I do, it is a sacrifice. The benefit comes in the margins: taking the train into the city when possible (even if it may take extra time), biking/walking in the city instead of enduring traffic in a car, etc.
    Tackling the issue from a QoL improvement is something I need to learn to incorporate in my discussions, and I'm thankful for videos like these

  • @addieburkam2204
    @addieburkam2204 27 дней назад +1

    As a resident of Halifax this is very common occurrence. Most drivers here live outside of the city center and therefore need a car to get around reliably (including myself!). However, this also means a ton of people have never experienced cycling so they don’t have a lot of empathy for bikers. Although it seems like the culture is changing a bit thankfully ! Thanks for the great video!

  • @ishathakor
    @ishathakor Месяц назад +2

    grew up in bangkok and i genuinely hated getting in the car to go anywhere within the city (with exceptions for stuff like going to a school dance because i didn't want to walk there with heels on). i could walk everywhere i needed to go on a daily basis (school and tutors). and i could walk or take the train to plenty of places i liked to go for fun (basically one of the malls). i was used to the weather so the heat didn't bother me at all and the rain would usually stop quite quickly after and the infrastructure was good so we rarely had flooding in my area, and even if it did, it would clear up in like 20 minutes, so you could walk/use transit literally every single day of the year.
    i grew up like this, walking home from school because taking the bus would take longer (lots of traffic in bangkok lol). just going to the movies whenever i felt like it. going to the mall to do some window shopping. going to the grocery store to get snacks or milk or pick up something we've run out of. going to the corner store at 11 pm on my own because i decided i wanted to get something with my allowance. going over to my friend's place whenever i wanted. stopping at a food stall i liked on the way to my tuitions after school. stopping at a park on my way home to look at some trees and lie on the grass. i used to make fun of my dad for driving to the badminton courts on the weekends when we played badminton because it was such a pleasant walk and only 30 minutes and we were going to exercise anyway, so why did we need the car? i used to complain when he decided to drive to the mall because it was faster to walk or take transit.
    and then i moved to the us. currently staying at my aunt's place. she lives in a classic american-style car-centric suburb. i can't do anything. going for a walk sucks because it's like being in a ghost town. i never see anyone and it's just road as far as the eye can see. the other day we were out of milk, and i thought i can just run down to the store and buy some. then i realized if i want to go to the nearest grocery store it's a 5 hour roundtrip. i wanted to go to the downtown, and there are no trains or busses. on a bike it would take 2 hours, and there are no bike lanes, so i would have to cycle on a highway with cars going at 70 mph. and the most ridiculous part is, every time i explain how insane this way to live is, i have americans telling me to buy a car! i don't have the money for a damn car?? i don't have thousands of dollars?? and then they'll bring up me complaining about not being able to cycle places as if that's comparable at all, when cycles are infinitely cheaper to buy, own, store, and repair than a car is. i had a friend in college who kept her cycle in her dorm, right next to her desk during the winter months. imagine doing that with a car.
    and i understand the benefits the car fans are always going on about. it's a box with ac, which is great. you can go door to door. roadtrips do kind of slap sometimes. they're great if you need to be carrying a bunch of shit. but these benefits are not worth being trapped without a car. we advocate for alternative transportation and walkability because they improve your life. and even people who are super against urbanism or 15 minute cities or walking or whatever would agree, because walking down a main street is an infinitely more enjoyable experience than driving to a strip mall. which is why they have to invent things we aren't even advocating for, because by agreeing that good urbanism is a positive thing they would have to agree that something in their life should change, and they are fundamentally against change, not pro car or anti walking.
    edit: i also think the amount of complaining i've just done about how unpleasant and inconvenient and expensive car dependency is is just more proof that most people aren't in this primarily for purposes of mitigating climate change. that's a nice bonus win-win situation. walking or biking or transit are just better options in many cases regardless of the climate impact.

  • @RossSpeirs
    @RossSpeirs Месяц назад +1

    We were a car family. We owned multiple cars, loved road trips, etc. growing up. Living in the prairies meant travelling long distances to visit relatives in other parts of the province or other provinces entirely. That being said, my dad ran downtown every morning to work and when he got older, took the train. We walked to and from school, or biked.
    I bike to as many things as I can, but can no longer bike to work most days as it takes 75 minutes+ each way. We can all get along.

  • @bark9396
    @bark9396 Месяц назад +6

    coming from Alberta, I hear the mindset of car-free cities being a compromise all too much. this is a great video to show those people that don't believe how beneficial it is!

  • @Ladadadada
    @Ladadadada Месяц назад +1

    When I started cycling about three years after moving to London my two main motivations were fitness and money. Although climate change mattered to me it would not have been enough on its own to convince me to try cycling with the (lack of) infrastructure that existed at the time, especially since I was switching from public transport rather than driving.
    In more recent years with all the improvements to safe cycling infrastructure, my wife and I like cycling in London because it is actually an enjoyable activity to do together, and a refreshing change from squeezing onto public transport during rush hour. And it's still benefiting my fitness and finances.

  • @brandontaraku6081
    @brandontaraku6081 Месяц назад +2

    Amazing video as always. I chose to bike to work in a no so bike friendly city (LA), and while the environment is probably a factor in pursuing this lifestyle, this was not what motivated me to pursue this. I was honestly fed up with how much money I was spending on my car, including gas, insurance and parking fees. I decided to sell my car and buy an e-bike to commute to work and a year later I still think it was an excellent decision. Even before I sold my car, I would frequently bike on the weekends for recreation. I love biking to the beach and biking through different neighborhoods of the city, so it was a natural consideration for me to use this not only for recreation, but also for a legitimate form of transportation. My commute surprisingly is only around 5 minutes longer without traffic, and with traffic I am faster on the e-bike. I also enjoy being outside while I’m commuting, getting exercise, and easily stopping at shops or grocery stores along the way without having to circle the block looking for parking. So no, this was not a sacrificial decision at all.

  • @davidfreeman3083
    @davidfreeman3083 Месяц назад +2

    Well said! Yes, urbanism is more than 'sacrificial activism' where people advocate for necessary sacrifices for 'greater goods' such as the environment, or even equality purposes. While these are important causes that drives urbanism, I think it's necessary to mention that better urbanism can benefit our quality of life directly, for the most part at least.

  • @juliapoelstra3624
    @juliapoelstra3624 Месяц назад +1

    I try to either cycle or electric scooter to work, but it's a 42km round trip. The last 1-2 km right before work is terrifying.. One coworker has never returned to work after being struck on her e-bike. Otherwise there are some marvelous trails that cut straight across the busy downtown.

  • @andrelam9898
    @andrelam9898 Месяц назад +3

    My parents moved us from Amsterdam to a more modern suburb in Haarlem back in the early 1970's. Mostly because Amsterdam was so over run with cars and it just wasn't a good place to raise kids. Schalkwijk (built post WW2) pretty much was already 15 minute city. Our pediatrician, my parent's doctor, our dentist, many stores including big grocery stores, kinder garden, and elementary school, library, etc. Were all reachable within 15 minutes walking, even less when cycling. My dad did work near Amsterdam, but the company actually offered a dedicated bus. He has to walk about 10 minutes to one of central stops for the bus. After a few years a co worker nearby got a car and they car pooled. 4 years after we moved there we got our first car. It was a more convenient way to get to grand parents and other family. The were reachable by public transport, but it would take at least double the time. We still used public transport or bikes for loads of trips. In the nearly 50 years since then, the cycling infrastructure has been improved there. Amsterdam on the other hand, has been utterly transformed. Back then it was becoming really dangerous to bike in Amsterdam. It just shows that the scare tactic of 15 minute cities is totally bogus. Many places exist that already behave like 15 minute cities... It is something to emulate, not be afraid of.

  • @chrisbartolini1508
    @chrisbartolini1508 Месяц назад +1

    I’ve literally explained the cycling thing at the start of this video to my girlfriend’s stepfather several times after he rages at a cyclist, and all he does is blow me off or shrugs. Thank god he’s 65 and I don’t have to deal with his willful ignorance much longer.

  • @nicthedoor
    @nicthedoor Месяц назад +4

    This 100p. There are a dozens of reasons for good urbanism long before we yalk anout the environmental benefits.

  • @rileynicholson2322
    @rileynicholson2322 Месяц назад +1

    I have biked for years, since I was a kid, but it was doing the math on the cost of my car that made me go out and buy a road bike after moving to a relatively cycling friendly city with an affordability problem (Victoria, BC). It was never about the environment for me, that's just an added bonus.

  • @starfilmsanimation
    @starfilmsanimation Месяц назад +2

    Watching this just after reading the Urbanist’s article about land use and climate change

  • @wakaflocka37
    @wakaflocka37 Месяц назад +1

    I understand that I'm an outlier, but my primary motivation in starting to bike for my commute was the environment. And before I got an e-bike, The heat and hills really could feel like a punishment. But now, anytime I see a hill I don't feel like working too hard to climb I just bump up the assist. I'm loving the bike. I genuinely miss when I don't get to bike to work or wherever. My city has almost no accomodations for me, but I still enjoy it and have found safe routes pretty much everywhere. The environment is not the best reason to ride a bike. The exercise, monetary savings, and most importantly, just how fun it is to ride are the best reasons. But the equivalent of 1500 MPG is nice too

  • @kailahmann1823
    @kailahmann1823 Месяц назад

    I had a very interesting conversation working at a sports event this weekend: The cleaning guys asked me for the bike route. Why? Because they've heard us talking about "10 minutes to the grocery store", while they claimed to need almost half an hour on a very complicated route.
    According to Google Maps it's not really half an hour, but the time is about the same - even with a part on the Autobahn. The rest is indeed complicate and clearly _not_ designed with "only cars matter": The shopping is at the S-Bahn station, while the Autobahn is on the other side of the neighborhood - and you then have to drive almost around it at a limit of 30 km/h.

  • @KJSvitko
    @KJSvitko Месяц назад +4

    Riding a bicycle is a great way to exercise. Ebikes are bringing many older adults back to cycling.
    Cities need to do more to encourage people to ride bicycles. Safe protected bike lanes and trails are needed so adults and children can ride safely. Speak up for bicycles in your community. Bicycles make life and cities better. Ask your local transportation planner and elected officials to support more protected bike lanes and trails. Children should be riding a bicycle to school and not be driven in a minivan. Be healthier and happier. Ride a bicycle regularly.

  • @professorquarter
    @professorquarter Месяц назад +1

    Another thing to consider here when arguing is that we do not necessarily need to find a green solution to something like long haul flights to reach a lofty goal like carbon net zero. You don't even need to concede that ground though it should be acknowledged.

  • @KannikCat
    @KannikCat Месяц назад +1

    re: the bit on air travel, I see it as that if so many other (and easier) things are improved (through trains, better land use and urbanism, industry, cleaning up dirty power, etc) then it may not matter if air travel can't be fully impact free. It would be a smallish impingement for great benefit and it would still fit within the worldwide equation for the carbon cycle. It doesn't have to be all or nothing (just like having a walkable/cyclable city doesn't mean there has to be 0 personal motorized vehicles), and anyone exclaiming that might just be trying to derail (pun intended) the conversation. :)

  • @GraemeMacDermid
    @GraemeMacDermid Месяц назад +1

    So true. I ride a bike, walk, or take transit most places in the city (depending on distance and weather) because it is so much better than driving. Driving and searching for parking in the city and is a truly miserable experience.

  • @matthewconstantine5015
    @matthewconstantine5015 Месяц назад +1

    Yup. I've walked, cycled, and bussed for almost my entire life, not because I was an environmentalist or an urbanist. I was just straight-up poor. I've only become an intentional urbanist for a few years.

  • @barryrobbins7694
    @barryrobbins7694 Месяц назад +1

    At the root of civilization is the ability to share, compromise, and adapt. It is hard for some people to realize that they are already doing these things. The more people continue to do these things, the better life becomes for everyone, even for the person that doesn’t want change.

  • @robertstuckey6407
    @robertstuckey6407 Месяц назад +2

    I just want to do my shopping without visiting three separate parking lots each of which are five minutes appart

  • @James-el6lj
    @James-el6lj Месяц назад +2

    This channel is great.

  • @JasonWood100
    @JasonWood100 Месяц назад +2

    I ride a bike to help me mitigate my symptoms of anxiety and depression.

  • @koopilot90
    @koopilot90 Месяц назад +2

    I personally prefer cycling because I hate wondering around for parking

  • @falsificationism
    @falsificationism Месяц назад +4

    So refreshing to finally hear someone push back against the paranoid ideas floating around about cities simply following good models of urbanism. I'm so annoyed by otherwise reasonable people having really, sincerely bad takes on things like "15-minute cities" and such.
    Thanks so much for this!

  • @anthonymorris5084
    @anthonymorris5084 Месяц назад

    I am a motorist, cyclist and pedestrian in the downtown of a major city. Because of this I have empathy for all three parties involved. This is what is lacking, empathy for the difficulties and stress that all three contribute to each other.

  • @timpekarek9159
    @timpekarek9159 Месяц назад +2

    I ride and use transit for a lot of reasons, but mainly, I can't afford a car.

  • @chelseashurmantine8153
    @chelseashurmantine8153 Месяц назад +1

    Riding my bike to work is faster than taking the bus. That’s a true fact. The bus is 52 minutes. The bike ride is 35-40 minutes. It’s a 20 minute drive filled with red lights, stop signs, and constant lane changes. My bike route is so smooth with only a few road crossings, riverside views, a couple community gardens, and a golf course. It’s got some ugly power lines, broken glass on the trail in a few places, I must wear sunscreen, and there are zero bathrooms. But it’s easy. It’s fresh air. And I don’t have to get oil changes or stop for gas on the way home.

  • @louisjov
    @louisjov Месяц назад +1

    I hate it when people try to lower my standard of living! By making the city quieter, making destinations more accessible, making my transportation costs cheaper, making me healthier...

  • @blores95
    @blores95 Месяц назад +1

    Environmental reasons is definitely one reason I try to bike more and drive less but it's definitely not the top or only reason. Easy exercise, way cheaper, actually enjoyable, etc. are concrete reasons that affect me day to day more than my lone contribution (or lack thereof) to climate change/pollution. I don't even mind if it takes longer as long as I don't feel like I'm gonna die on the trip. I'd honestly say the biggest, simplest reason besides just disliking driving is I enjoy being outside and feeling the air and sun on me. Living in LA it's so strange how the world sees this place as perfect weather (I think that's exaggerated) but so many people don't like to be outside and need to go from their A/C'd house to their A/C'd car to the A/C'd building and barely spend any time in the actual sun.

  • @thefish560
    @thefish560 Месяц назад +2

    I've been following you guys for 2 years now. Everytime you upload, I cant wait to see the video.

  • @ShadowOfTheVoid
    @ShadowOfTheVoid Месяц назад +1

    A whole host of issues are connected to car-dependent cities. It's not just environmental issues like climate change. Oil dependency, gasoline price worries, urban sprawl and bad land use, traffic congestion, unaffordable housing, income inequality, municipal debt, personal debt (cars are huge money sinks), and public health issues like traffic deaths & injuries, lack of exercise, and stress all stem from overly-restrictive zoning laws as well as infrastructure that fosters car dependency.

  • @Urban_LP
    @Urban_LP Месяц назад

    This video was so spot on, thanks, was a really good one (All your videos are great after all)

  • @zenafied
    @zenafied Месяц назад +1

    I feel like the environment is just the cherry on the top. For me, it's about how liveable it feels, how convenient and just better. I also absolutely hate the aesthetics of cities that aren't built like cities, and have no greenery in the middle, and don't know how to integrate city life into people's home lives. Also I don't drive and made the choice not to get a driver's license because honestly driving seems really scary and not really worth it. It just feels more chill to walk around, take a train, bus... at least in cities where you're left alone while doing those things

  • @rarephoenix
    @rarephoenix Месяц назад +2

    Those conspiracies make me so sad. They're surely seeded by people with big interests in oil, cars, and road construction. There's very little chance JoeFoo in their basement came up with such a damaging conspiracy.
    I started biking in the 1980s because I had a bike, no TV, no AC, no tech at all but a radio and turntable.
    Biking is the opposite of oppression, it's complete freedom. I bike because I'm free to. No gas, no taxes, only positive benefits. ❤

    • @rarephoenix
      @rarephoenix Месяц назад +1

      Now I insist my kids learn to bike. By age 10 I will let them turn loose free on the city. Between bikes and public transit they have no boundaries. Tell that to any kid in the suburbs getting trucked around from prison to prison. (I joke, but cars are just mobile prisons taking their kids to other prisons.)

  • @benh9781
    @benh9781 Месяц назад

    Great video as always!

  • @alchemist89blk
    @alchemist89blk Месяц назад +2

    I ride because I have a strong dislike for driving. I don't like sitting for that long, I don't like dealing with the impatient morons doing dangerous things, and I don't like the road rage I consistently see.
    On a bike I have more options on ways to get to where I work, I get to feel active, and for the most part I don't have to deal with morons in cars except for at intersections or on the couple miles where there is not bike path/lane.
    The environment is secondary for me. The physical health is secondary. The mental health is my primary reason for riding, despite negative experiences.

  • @KevinBauman
    @KevinBauman Месяц назад +1

    I've used my feet and bike as my primary form of local transportation since the 90s. I have a car, I just prefer walking and riding. It's amazing how many of the folks that always accuse others of laziness attack those who are inherently not lazy. I can do a good thing for the environment (my environment), for myself (exercise and less stress), and enjoy it at the same time. I don't know what's not to like.

  • @mmontgomeryy
    @mmontgomeryy Месяц назад +1

    Interestingly, I was just speaking with someone who bought an electric car recently and they get the same “it’s not even better for the environment” comments. They constantly have to remind people that, actually, driving an EV is quite enjoyable and just another option when buying a new car. Lower emissions is an obvious perk, but it’s only one of a few good reasons to get an EV if it works for you.

  • @AnotherDuck
    @AnotherDuck Месяц назад +1

    So I live in Sweden, Stockholm specifically, and I find transit very useful. The metro is rather extensive for the population size, and to complement that we have a few other rail lines and a dense bus network. And commuter and regional rail traffic. I'll stick with this over the more car-centric America.

  • @mariospenard5125
    @mariospenard5125 Месяц назад +1

    Keep on biking! ❤

  • @justintaylor375
    @justintaylor375 Месяц назад

    Spot on, as always!

  • @goredongoredon
    @goredongoredon Месяц назад

    40+ years ago I moved from a suburban mid-west city with poor bus service to a big city with lots of public transportation specifically because I wanted to not own a car. I was in my early 20s and not a good car owner. I still enjoy living in a city and there's sort term rentals (Gigcar) if I need to drive somewhere.

  • @DanielBrotherston
    @DanielBrotherston Месяц назад +1

    There's a comic, it's some scientists presenting at a conference and someone in the audience asks: "What if we're wrong about climate change, and we make the world better and more liveable for nothing!"

  • @beback_
    @beback_ Месяц назад

    Yet another profound point I didn't know I've been wanting to put into words. Kudos!

  • @thatpersonsmusic
    @thatpersonsmusic 25 дней назад

    For me myself, I really don’t think frequently about the environmental impacts of urbanism, but I rather tend to think about how good urbanism can improve mental health, bond communities, reduce financial stress on people, and in general just make living life more pleasant. Of course it is incredibly important to prevent climate change, but there are so many further positive externalities of urbanism that take the forefront place in my attention

  • @haydnplus
    @haydnplus Месяц назад +1

    As soon as I finish college and get a degree in urban planning, I want to get rid of my car and start traveling everywhere without one in any way that I can. I am choosing to do this not only because there are a lot of environmental, financial, and social benefits to not owning a car, but mainly because I just want to show everyone that there should be more options for transportation other than driving. Whether it would be by walking, riding a bike, or taking buses and trains, I just want to expose the problem that we all experience every day, but never come to realize. Millions of people in America and around the world are being robbed of the opportunity to experience many benefits for themselves and others, because most of our cities have been designed only for driving. It’s not that I think that driving shouldn’t exist, I just think that it shouldn’t be the only option.
    Whenever I talk to any of my friends about these topics, they always laugh at me and say that my ideas are ridiculous and dangerous. Little do they know that they with their giant pickups and SUVs are literally part of the problem. Once we can finally make America a place for people and not just for machines, I will be the one laughing at them.

  • @michaelpjeffries1521
    @michaelpjeffries1521 Месяц назад +2

    We have to build communities which utilize public transit and pedestrian traffic over automobile. Montreal benefitted from the French heritage. Vancouver and much of west coast architecture is from same person who placed a university on a mountain top which is still futuristic today. He shares name of man who was surveyor of Massachusetts who retired to Salem and left no burial details.

  • @SnapDash
    @SnapDash Месяц назад +1

    I'm glad to report that I've never been yelled at (at least not that I have heard!) while cycling the streets of Halifax. Improvements to our cycling infrastructure are slow, but they are happening!
    That dystopian "we'll be locked in our neighbourhoods!" worry was on full display in Edmonton recently, while they discussed a district planning proposal. To reassure the conspiracy theorists, the city council even added a clause: "The District Policy and the District Plans shall not restrict freedom of movement, association, and commerce in accordance with the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms."

    • @AnotherDuck
      @AnotherDuck Месяц назад +1

      The moment most Americans don't have access to their car, they are locked into their neighbourhoods. So even with that argument, I don't see too much of a difference.

  • @pineapplepizza27
    @pineapplepizza27 Месяц назад +1

    About to go on a 2 mile trip where the only cargo is a phpne charger and a bottle of vodka. Earlier in my life this would be an obvious car trip for me but instead I'm gonna save money and have fun

  • @sambitmishra1229
    @sambitmishra1229 Месяц назад

    What is this amazing machine at @1:20

  • @stripping_architecture
    @stripping_architecture Месяц назад +1

    You went deeper on argumentation. Cycling has its own challenges as well but absolutely not comparable as car centric designs. Pure empirical thinking to reinforce your argumentation. Take one city and have everyone driving car - and the city will collapse. Take one city and put everyone on bike - the city still will be doing fine.

  • @mdhazeldine
    @mdhazeldine Месяц назад +2

    Ironically in the UK, we're quite used to public transport, and often expect it when new developments are built (especially in London), but 29% of our power is still coming from coal or gas, nuclear is still a bit of a hot topic (only 16% of our power comes from it) and only 0.5% of our power comes from hydro electric, probably because we don't have huge waterfalls like Ontario and Quebec does.

    • @lazrseagull54
      @lazrseagull54 Месяц назад +2

      After reading the first half of your first sentence, my brain went "no. Sadly, that's just London." Compared to most of western Europe, UK public transport is god awful once you get out of London. When the Belgrade metro opens its first 2 lines at the end of this decade, Birmingham, Manchester and Leeds will be the 1st, 2nd and 3rd largest European cities without any kind of local underground rail network.
      It's very bus focused and where there is rail, you have to buy separate tickets for that, which are also very expensive in the UK. In Germany, a single journey within a city is usually valid on all bus and rail modes for 90mins-2hrs as long as you don't go back on yourself, a monthly ticket for all bus, tram, underground, monorail, and local and regional rail throughout the entire country costs €49/month so you can just hop on/hop off and go anywhere and change your mind and change direction at any point without having to pay extra, while in the UK, I find myself having to ration how much public transport I use.
      For comparison, over 20 German cities have some kind of underground rail network, compared to 4 in the UK and over 60 German cities have a tram network, compared to only 7 in the UK and the local rail in Germany often gets you to within a few minutes walk of almost any business or home in the city, while the local rail networks in the UK usually only have a few lines. Nottingham for example only has 2 and Edinburgh only has 1, leaving most neighbourhoods only accessible by bus. Even in London, I find most people who live outside of zones 1 and 2 have to get a bus to their nearest tube station.

    • @mdhazeldine
      @mdhazeldine Месяц назад

      @@lazrseagull54 I am probably a bit biased because I live near a train station within 30 minutes of London, but you're right, public transport outside of London is much worse. However.....it's still better than North America by a country mile. It's all relative isn't it.

    • @mindstalk
      @mindstalk Месяц назад

      @@lazrseagull54 "over 20 German cities have some kind of underground rail network"
      *cries in American*

  • @EverAfterHL
    @EverAfterHL Месяц назад +1

    Honestly, I am very worried about climate change and I try to limit my flights or buy used clothes, furnitures, etc and so on. However, I am not good at self sacrifice, and for me walking and taking transit is just more fun than driving most of the time in the city. Walking makes me happy. Driving doesnt. It's that simple.

  • @torashuPanda781
    @torashuPanda781 Месяц назад +2

    I commute by bike mostly for fitness and because it's fun. I never went to any gym because I just can't enjoy the thought of going to a place just to exercise. As a pratical person I don't even like to ride my bike if it is just for exercise, so I use it to commute and also to shop near my place. And there's nothing better for blowing off steam than pedaling hard.

    • @noseboop4354
      @noseboop4354 Месяц назад

      I once had to commute 45 minutes by bike because I was too poor, and boy it wasn't fun at all. The bike lanes were decent, but there were lots of hills, lots of rainy days, it was just aweful. I am extremely grateful to have a car now, if I want exercise I'd rather go swimming.

    • @KarolBikes
      @KarolBikes Месяц назад +3

      I like cycling as a sport, because it's more than just riding your bike at fast speed for multiple hours, but also because I get to know the area around me, visit cafes and see beautiful landscapes. Which is probably why I just can't get into playing sports with balls like football or basketball.