Thanks for the video, Mike! At around 7:55, I think you missed saying that although the interface's input and output latency is still nice and low, the heavy hitter plugins themselves are adding PROCESSING latency which can't be solved by shaving off the input/output latency added by the audio interface driver. It all adds up of course!
@@studioonerevealed Thats the Reasen why i spend my Money for pure analog CUE Mixes (no Conversions, real NO Latency, e.g a oldscool Analog Mixer). I can still do the Source of the CUEs in the DAW. Maybe i am a Nerd, but i go one step further and use SO paralell with my Cubase on 2 different I/Os (RME UFx for Cubase and MultifaceII for SO). So i can drive SO at 32 S/B for realtime, and Cubase with a Large Projekt maybe on 2048 S/B as Composer/Mixer Software. With RME that works great! So, i dont have to use DualBufferSize in SO, cause i only use it for realtime-Application. Fact: StudioOne is a tick better then Cubase in Realtime Performance. Thats the Reasen.
Be careful using this technique, as it does indeed do as mike suggests, but it will add a lot more processing to your CPU, (40%) more actually. if you check the performance meter at the bottom, its a useful insight to have on a minimal session, but if your wrting with lots of synths/plgins etc, then you will run out of juice! andlatency will be least of your worries!.
Awesome Technique. However, Just a heads up. Keeping Studio One's dropout Protection at MAX shuts off the ability to record VST Instruments to an Audio Track in real time. Always change it back to Minimum after using this process to keep other recording features active.
Its a shame you don't work for Presonus. I have a 32s and an NSB 32.16 and a lot of synths and drum machines pugged into the desk. I never use stock presets and make all my own sounds. I use the effects on the mixer as part of the sound and it sounds fantastic only problem is that when I record it even though I have the desk set to post it records dry. I have been on to support and they sent me their way of doing it ( Very over complicated but it still dose not work anyway )
I'm 72-year-old music producer who built my studio in 1979. I started MIDI sequencing with Passport software in 1983 and moved to Cakewalk MIDI sequencing software in 1987. I stuck with Cakewalk through the years and up through Sonar-right up until the newer operating systems wouldn't support my version of Sonar anymore. Imagine my delight when I discovered Cakewalk by Bandlab. However, you've recently piqued my interest in PreSonus Studio One 6 via your glowing reviews. But I'm wondering if Studio One's notation editor is going to be a deal breaker for me. I do 50% of my MIDI editing using Cakewalk's staff view as it provides for a quick & robust workflow. What little I've seen online regarding the Studio One 6 notation editor suggests it to be a bloated, unwieldy interface-incapable of right-clicking individual note heads for quick pitch, duration and velocity tweaks. I think your tutorials are the best and would love to see an in depth discussion of the notation editor in Studio One 6.
It absolutely has a staff view where you can right click each note. I don't know about bloated. I used to find it a bit lacking in regards to keyswitches, pitchnames, etc., although a lot has been updated. Still not Cubase levels, but that is meant more for composers working with large orchestral packs. I'd give the trial a try. Its honestly taking the best parts of every DAW.
Low latency is not fully compatible with all amp sims. I am using Bias FX and using low latency mode makes the plugin-UI unresponsive to changes. I have to uncheck the green Z (using a quantum) every time I want to make a change to the amp settings. It took me a while to figure this out, while someone was waiting... not ideal. Hope this helps others.
I've also seen some wierd stuff like that and even ended up loading amp sims on the listen bus to make it unproblematic. But softube always works now and thankfully I can send to 3 parallell buses of 1 delay and 2 parallell bus and those don't use the low latency monitoring and don't steal that extra cpu power which is exactly how I want it.
Pro level channel! I've gone through all your videos for 2 days. Your work is much appreciated, Mike! Maybe consider a second option for donations as not everyone has PayPal these days.
Hello, I have a question regarding the settings that attempt to resolve latency in Studio One. The LOW LATENCY INSTRUMENT MONITORING option disables (turns off) the WAVES, CLA NX plugin. Any ideas why this happens and/or how to fix it? (Sorry for my bad English, I used Google Translate)
Have you had a look at Presonus' new Quantum interfaces that have a "Blue Z" mode (ZERO latency!)? Apparently you can listen to the input of you instrument, rather than the signal that is going through the DAW...
Great stuff, Mike... now, I would love to hear how you can play guitar through Ampire and monitor just the processed sound, NOT including the sound of the clean guitar along with it.
great video but you totally missed it. those of us will really good computers only want to hear the signal AFTER THE DAW. but we are stuck with both before and after which in really short latencies, creats a distant chorus or flange sound. HOW TO ME ONLY HEAR A POST DAAW MONITOR ???????
Mike, I play keyboards, I work with studio one 6.2. out of all the tutorials I watch and that's alot, your's are the most concise and understandable. You have taught me alot! I am not new to music but I am relatively new to studio one, You are my go to for all things studio one. Before that, I worked with bandlab for a while and watched you, then switched. Thank you for your great videos!!
The biggest problem I have noticed when using low latency green Z monitoring with instruments, is that the sound of the instrument and the volume of the instrument changes dramatically whether you have record monitoring enabled, or are just listening to the track you have recorded with record monitoring turned off. Not sure if there’s a workaround for this, any ideas?
Hi. I am a Studio One user and something really strange is just happening to me. I play the song that i am recordering and i cannot see anymore the recordered acoustic guitar tracks but i can still hear them playing. How do i fix it? has anyone ever experience something like this and has solid tips to give me??...Please...
Fantastic tips there Mike. REALLY useful information. You have to wonder why Presonus themselves do not cover some of these features. I think Joe and Gregor (from Presonus) do a wonderful job. *But* they tend to cover the same topics over and over and sometimes you can hear the barrel being scraped. Studio one has some fantastic advanced features that never seem to get covered (other than here!). One example - did you know that (using the Studio one remote app) you can turn a tablet into a X/Y pad? I have lose count of how many virtual synths I have with an X/Y pad. It is almost impossible to automate such a thing, as well as being impossible to play the keys *and* use a mouse at the same time. A remote X/Y pad is the perfect solution - but Pesonus want to keep this a secret, or so it seems. This is just one example of some of the advanced features that would unlock the potential of Studio One. This video is another example - Presonus should be covering this - but I am sure glad you are around to do this work for them! They should hire you..... no, *really*. Once again, thanks so much for this and all your other S1 videos. Much kudos. 💗
Joe did at least one video about this feature, but frankly it wasn't very clear and I'm not entirely sure even he completely understood the feature. This here is by far the best explanation I've found, and I hope it lets more people use this. It's (as far as I know anyway) a feature that is completely unique to Studio One, which is pretty darn rare in the DAW world, and Presonus really should make a bigger deal about it (and make it more obvious how to use it correctly!).
Very good explanation. I learned something I didn’t know! 😃 I’ve been switching it on the settings between recording and mixing. Oh and the stock plugins are great.
Hey Mike, I can't begin to tell you how much I really appreciate your videos. There has to be a way to show you my gratitude for what you do for the music producer community.
Does anyone know how to hear the play back of a track that is armed for recording? While in “Z” low latency mode the armed track cannot be heard. Makes it hard to punch in.
Did you figure this out?? I cannot get any answer anywhere. It makes this whole feature pointless if you cant monitor and hear your track. How would you be able to punch in...
Mike, My studio 68C interface had a monitor button so you could monitor through the interface and not the DAW. AND NOW- Mike you have got to pick up a NEW Quantum interface. I got the ES4 and No more latency - everything is done through the Universal Control for monitoring. The Quantum ES4 sound is amazing. Best wishes always my friend😃
This is AMAZING! I have been wanting Studio One to have a way to switch between a Tracking mode and Mix mode for this exact reason. Thank you for sharing this :)
Hi Mike. Since you were a Cakewalk user for so long, i would like to ask a question. Is there any "sane" way to import/move cakewalk projects to Studio One?
Z? What? WOW! I missed that. Mistakes were made, shuffle, shuffle, shuffle. Great tips, made me pull out a Strat. FYI, LOVE that Gretsch, and hearing you play it.
Except you don't explain what the Green Z button is actually doing. You don't get something for nothing. The processing buffers don't magically go away. What trick is going on underneath?
One of the rare times I've been confused by one of your explanations: If you have processing dropout protection off or set low enough that the processing buffer size is the same as the recording buffer size (both 512 in my case) two things happen that I missed if you mentioned. 1) "Enable Low Latency Monitoring for Instruments" is disabled and the "Z" that indicates native low latency is available does not appear -- at least in 6.5 Otherwise excellent as usual.
Really great video Mike! This feature is pretty confusing to me. When you turned your plugins on output bus I thought the problem introduced would be clicks and pops due to processor not keeping up with the small block size. Instead you got latency. My head is still spinning! As was pointed out this is processor latency. Is that because they were time based effects?? Is the first note we hear the guitar dry and second the guitar wet (processed)? If you used non time based effect would result have been clicks and pops instead? Is low latency monitoring only effective with time based effects? And what about the mysterious BLUE Z?? Sorry. Way to many questions! I need to do some experimenting. Mike thanks so much for these videos. Joe and Gregor also produce informative videos but yours are the best tutorials for really explaining how the pieces fit together!
mike, ive been on the fence like an idiot for awhile. mostly working in pro tools because your not a pro if your not in pro tools lol. BUT after deep diving in your channel and watching some of the videos several times ive finally wised up and gone to s1 all the way. i own cubase, reaper, s1 , and pro tools but s1 most vertainly is the easieest, but most comprehensive. dont get me wrong all the others are cool but with the recent avid sale lol, and all the good points and knowledge youve been highlighting on your channel here its really become a no brainer. like i said the others are all great but why wouldnt you choose s1 ?? anyway as always thanks for the content, and honestly thanks for really focusing on some topics that really show how s1 can work and be productive from the beginner to the pro !!
Thanks for the video, Mike! At around 7:55, I think you missed saying that although the interface's input and output latency is still nice and low, the heavy hitter plugins themselves are adding PROCESSING latency which can't be solved by shaving off the input/output latency added by the audio interface driver. It all adds up of course!
That's a great point, so I've pinned this:) Thank you.
@@studioonerevealed Thats the Reasen why i spend my Money for pure analog CUE Mixes (no Conversions, real NO Latency, e.g a oldscool Analog Mixer). I can still do the Source of the CUEs in the DAW.
Maybe i am a Nerd, but i go one step further and use SO paralell with my Cubase on 2 different I/Os (RME UFx for Cubase and MultifaceII for SO). So i can drive SO at 32 S/B for realtime, and Cubase with a Large Projekt maybe on 2048 S/B as Composer/Mixer Software. With RME that works great!
So, i dont have to use DualBufferSize in SO, cause i only use it for realtime-Application.
Fact: StudioOne is a tick better then Cubase in Realtime Performance. Thats the Reasen.
Be careful using this technique, as it does indeed do as mike suggests, but it will add a lot more processing to your CPU, (40%) more actually. if you check the performance meter at the bottom, its a useful insight to have on a minimal session, but if your wrting with lots of synths/plgins etc, then you will run out of juice! andlatency will be least of your worries!.
Awesome Technique. However, Just a heads up. Keeping Studio One's dropout Protection at MAX shuts off the ability to record VST Instruments to an Audio Track in real time. Always change it back to Minimum after using this process to keep other recording features active.
i cant get my get my block size below 259 samples on windows audio any help?
Great job! Does this only work for the stock plug-ins or can I apply the Green Z to plug=ins such as Waves or Soundtoys?
Why does my metronome sound like it’s going off beat
Thank you so much. I love spending hundreds of dollars on a DAW only to not be able to play anything. Absolute life saver :)
Its a shame you don't work for Presonus. I have a 32s and an NSB 32.16 and a lot of synths and drum machines pugged into the desk. I never use stock presets and make all my own sounds. I use the effects on the mixer as part of the sound and it sounds fantastic only problem is that when I record it even though I have the desk set to post it records dry. I have been on to support and they sent me their way of doing it ( Very over complicated but it still dose not work anyway )
I'm 72-year-old music producer who built my studio in 1979. I started MIDI sequencing with Passport software in 1983 and moved to Cakewalk MIDI sequencing software in 1987. I stuck with Cakewalk through the years and up through Sonar-right up until the newer operating systems wouldn't support my version of Sonar anymore. Imagine my delight when I discovered Cakewalk by Bandlab.
However, you've recently piqued my interest in PreSonus Studio One 6 via your glowing reviews. But I'm wondering if Studio One's notation editor is going to be a deal breaker for me. I do 50% of my MIDI editing using Cakewalk's staff view as it provides for a quick & robust workflow. What little I've seen online regarding the Studio One 6 notation editor suggests it to be a bloated, unwieldy interface-incapable of right-clicking individual note heads for quick pitch, duration and velocity tweaks.
I think your tutorials are the best and would love to see an in depth discussion of the notation editor in Studio One 6.
It absolutely has a staff view where you can right click each note. I don't know about bloated. I used to find it a bit lacking in regards to keyswitches, pitchnames, etc., although a lot has been updated. Still not Cubase levels, but that is meant more for composers working with large orchestral packs. I'd give the trial a try. Its honestly taking the best parts of every DAW.
Low latency is not fully compatible with all amp sims. I am using Bias FX and using low latency mode makes the plugin-UI unresponsive to changes. I have to uncheck the green Z (using a quantum) every time I want to make a change to the amp settings. It took me a while to figure this out, while someone was waiting... not ideal. Hope this helps others.
I've also seen some wierd stuff like that and even ended up loading amp sims on the listen bus to make it unproblematic. But softube always works now and thankfully I can send to 3 parallell buses of 1 delay and 2 parallell bus and those don't use the low latency monitoring and don't steal that extra cpu power which is exactly how I want it.
Pro level channel! I've gone through all your videos for 2 days. Your work is much appreciated, Mike! Maybe consider a second option for donations as not everyone has PayPal these days.
alright, alright, I guess I'll sub. lol great video!
Lol, thank you :)
Hello, I have a question regarding the settings that attempt to resolve latency in Studio One.
The LOW LATENCY INSTRUMENT MONITORING option disables (turns off) the WAVES, CLA NX plugin.
Any ideas why this happens and/or how to fix it?
(Sorry for my bad English, I used Google Translate)
Fantastic work. you explain studio one better than Presonus
Thank you! I appreciate you watching.
he def is, he made me switch from reaper back to studio one again. this guy is awesome
Thanks for taking the time to work through the options and showing real-world results. Plus your guitar playing is really nice and smooth.
Have you had a look at Presonus' new Quantum interfaces that have a "Blue Z" mode (ZERO latency!)? Apparently you can listen to the input of you instrument, rather than the signal that is going through the DAW...
Brilliant thank you you’ve made my Studio One life much better 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Enable low level latency for instruments is no longer available AHHHHHH!!!!!
Dude! you just saved my ass! Z button????????????? didn't even know it was there.
Great stuff, Mike... now, I would love to hear how you can play guitar through Ampire and monitor just the processed sound, NOT including the sound of the clean guitar along with it.
great video but you totally missed it. those of us will really good computers only want to hear the signal AFTER THE DAW. but we are stuck with both before and after which in really short latencies, creats a distant chorus or flange sound. HOW TO ME ONLY HEAR A POST DAAW MONITOR ???????
do I need the Z when I use my UAD Apollo with direct monitoring? And what's the best setting to use vet instruments?
You friggen helped.... Thanks man...
Mike, I play keyboards, I work with studio one 6.2. out of all the tutorials I watch and that's alot, your's are the most concise and understandable. You have taught me alot! I am not new to music but I am relatively new to studio one, You are my go to for all things studio one. Before that, I worked with bandlab for a while and watched you, then switched. Thank you for your great videos!!
Sometimes VST synths or Kontakt instruments start sounding so dull and low quality whenever this feature is enabled.
Jeeeez why is everything just working perfectly fine on my system just like it is since installation? No latency no crackles!
Very helpful, thanks! Beautiful guitar btw!
Hi! How to get rid of SENDS delay when monitoring?
my vst instrument sounds different and often less loud when using this method. Any tips?
The biggest problem I have noticed when using low latency green Z monitoring with instruments, is that the sound of the instrument and the volume of the instrument changes dramatically whether you have record monitoring enabled, or are just listening to the track you have recorded with record monitoring turned off. Not sure if there’s a workaround for this, any ideas?
Why does SO this not automaticly when you hit "Rec"? But better the Cubase, who has not such a great Funktion.
sir you just made me a subscriber to your channel.
Hi. I am a Studio One user and something really strange is just happening to me. I play the song that i am recordering and i cannot see anymore the recordered acoustic guitar tracks but i can still hear them playing. How do i fix it? has anyone ever experience something like this and has solid tips to give me??...Please...
Great video! Thank you for the tips.
And of course I don't have the green "Z" on my master..
Do you use a PC Mike or a Mac?
He's using a PC in this video
I dont have that Z symbol. What audio interface do you use?
I never knew...nor did I try to read manual to find out lol. Very helpful as usual 🙂
:) Me too!
Thank you Mike! So clearly explained, very helpful. I can’t wait to set this up 👂🎶
Great video!!! Fixed! Thanks!!
If only there were a way to get rid of the input signal in the headphones/monitors whilst playing through the ampire plugin
Man its amazing how well reaper is coded compared to these other daws.
I don’t have a Z below my master fader? I’m on windows btw
Excellent and very impressive video. I love your channel and how you make things easier for me.
Fantastic tips there Mike. REALLY useful information.
You have to wonder why Presonus themselves do not cover some of these features. I think Joe and Gregor (from Presonus) do a wonderful job. *But* they tend to cover the same topics over and over and sometimes you can hear the barrel being scraped.
Studio one has some fantastic advanced features that never seem to get covered (other than here!).
One example - did you know that (using the Studio one remote app) you can turn a tablet into a X/Y pad? I have lose count of how many virtual synths I have with an X/Y pad. It is almost impossible to automate such a thing, as well as being impossible to play the keys *and* use a mouse at the same time. A remote X/Y pad is the perfect solution - but Pesonus want to keep this a secret, or so it seems.
This is just one example of some of the advanced features that would unlock the potential of Studio One.
This video is another example - Presonus should be covering this - but I am sure glad you are around to do this work for them! They should hire you..... no, *really*.
Once again, thanks so much for this and all your other S1 videos. Much kudos.
💗
Joe did at least one video about this feature, but frankly it wasn't very clear and I'm not entirely sure even he completely understood the feature. This here is by far the best explanation I've found, and I hope it lets more people use this. It's (as far as I know anyway) a feature that is completely unique to Studio One, which is pretty darn rare in the DAW world, and Presonus really should make a bigger deal about it (and make it more obvious how to use it correctly!).
I cannot find the z....im crying
thank you very much sir!
Gotta have a fast ass computer to go that low on sample
can't find the z I'm crying
Aha! No more buffer dancing, this is going to be SO handy, thanks for sharing this Mike.
Very good explanation. I learned something I didn’t know! 😃 I’ve been switching it on the settings between recording and mixing. Oh and the stock plugins are great.
you're the man. as always. happy to see you back healthy and everything
The best tip since using Studio One 12 years ago. Thanks!
Thank you Mike (or Mark K? ;) )
Hey Mike, I can't begin to tell you how much I really appreciate your videos. There has to be a way to show you my gratitude for what you do for the music producer community.
Great video Mike. Your work is important and appreciated.
Bravo Michael, that was so profound. You've included everything from start to end which is important to know about it. Never knew about it.
This was the exact video I needed........thanks
So many words….
Does anyone know how to hear the play back of a track that is armed for recording? While in “Z” low latency mode the armed track cannot be heard. Makes it hard to punch in.
Did you figure this out?? I cannot get any answer anywhere. It makes this whole feature pointless if you cant monitor and hear your track. How would you be able to punch in...
Thanks
Awesome Dude
Mike, My studio 68C interface had a monitor button so you could monitor through the interface and not the DAW. AND NOW- Mike you have got to pick up a NEW Quantum interface. I got the ES4 and No more latency - everything is done through the Universal Control for monitoring. The Quantum ES4 sound is amazing. Best wishes always my friend😃
Thank you!!!
Awesome 😊
tanks 👍
capo
This is AMAZING! I have been wanting Studio One to have a way to switch between a Tracking mode and Mix mode for this exact reason. Thank you for sharing this :)
cheers I will give this a try out, hopefully will help out when I'm doing ampsim demos
Hi Mike. Since you were a Cakewalk user for so long, i would like to ask a question. Is there any "sane" way to import/move cakewalk projects to Studio One?
Hi Samual, I'll be doing a tutorial on this soon in Creative Sauce. Although, I wouldn't call it sane!
@@studioonerevealed Thanks
Z? What? WOW! I missed that. Mistakes were made, shuffle, shuffle, shuffle. Great tips, made me pull out a Strat. FYI, LOVE that Gretsch, and hearing you play it.
Except you don't explain what the Green Z button is actually doing. You don't get something for nothing. The processing buffers don't magically go away. What trick is going on underneath?
Gracias !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! es lo mejor que he visto en la red para ahorrar recursos en Studio one !!! Gracias Gracias Gracias
You need 128gb DDR4 Ram!
that does NOTHING for CPU usage. Its great for loading and using a ton of VIs. Especially orchestral set ups. But it helps none with CPU.
Mind blown. Thanks Mike. Just moved to S1 from Cakewalk.
One of the rare times I've been confused by one of your explanations: If you have processing dropout protection off or set low enough that the processing buffer size is the same as the recording buffer size (both 512 in my case) two things happen that I missed if you mentioned. 1) "Enable Low Latency Monitoring for Instruments" is disabled and the "Z" that indicates native low latency is available does not appear -- at least in 6.5 Otherwise excellent as usual.
Really great video Mike! This feature is pretty confusing to me. When you turned your plugins on output bus I thought the problem introduced would be clicks and pops due to processor not keeping up with the small block size. Instead you got latency. My head is still spinning! As was pointed out this is processor latency. Is that because they were time based effects?? Is the first note we hear the guitar dry and second the guitar wet (processed)? If you used non time based effect would result have been clicks and pops instead? Is low latency monitoring only effective with time based effects? And what about the mysterious BLUE Z?? Sorry. Way to many questions! I need to do some experimenting.
Mike thanks so much for these videos. Joe and Gregor also produce informative videos but yours are the best tutorials for really explaining how the pieces fit together!
EXCELLENT Mike. As I did with Calkwalk, I’m relying on your videos to help me get through the leaning curve for Studio One. Thanks! Awesome 👍
Thank you soo much! I've had those issues for quite a while. Absolute game changer. Perfect explanation. Thanks!
Thanks Mike, great stuff as always. Loved your guitar playing sample. I have a similar Gretsch, but it never sounded as good as yours. :)
Great video Mike...thanks, solved a real problem for those that don't know about this
This is the main thing that has bugged me about Studio One vs Cubase..I’ve tried all the fixes..thanks for the info!
mike, ive been on the fence like an idiot for awhile. mostly working in pro tools because your not a pro if your not in pro tools lol. BUT after deep diving in your channel and watching some of the videos several times ive finally wised up and gone to s1 all the way. i own cubase, reaper, s1 , and pro tools but s1 most vertainly is the easieest, but most comprehensive. dont get me wrong all the others are cool but with the recent avid sale lol, and all the good points and knowledge youve been highlighting on your channel here its really become a no brainer. like i said the others are all great but why wouldnt you choose s1 ?? anyway as always thanks for the content, and honestly thanks for really focusing on some topics that really show how s1 can work and be productive from the beginner to the pro !!
I Love you for this amazing Tutorial!
Thanks Man !
Hi Mike, if you are using Green Z mode, do all your active plugins remain active irrespective of whether you are recording or just playing back?
Such A very ckear explanation. Thank you very much Mike
Thanks Mike this was very helpful👍
My pleasure:)
Thanks!! And that track is beautiful!!! Niiiiccee!! 👍
thank you 👍👌‼️ just saved me lots of headaches
Great Tip Mike but do you have a work around for older versions of Studio one that do not have the processing tab just the devices tab?
Great vid!!! Thank you 😇🙏🕊️👍
Thank you so much for making this video You solved a huge problem for me
Thanks Mike I never even noticed the Z . And if I did I wouldn't have known what its for. Now I do !
Thanks Mike. I'm getting more and more interested in S1...
Even though I already use this idea, I have to compliment you on an excellent presentation!
Very thorough! This is exactly what I needed. Thanks so much
I have been a buffer bouncer for years. You have cured me!! Gracias!
Please! A follow up video would be fantastic!
Thank you so very much and your music is beautiful!
Honestly there are so many good s1 channels, but besides yours I always learn something new