Biggest thing is not only did you make 42k you’re expenses while you were gone were low so you have most of that money. I always tell people this is one of the last careers that you can really make some money and set yourself up for the future. Even if you don’t want to sail for a long time. Sail 5 years, stack some cash, buy a house and pay it off, and invest. After 5 years you can go do whatever. Pay yourself first as they say. Skip the brand new 90k truck and bullshit materialistic stuff. Set yourself up for the future. I went to an Academy and then climbed the ranks. I highly recommend you get your mates license and start making even more $.
Absolutely. If I could give one piece of advice to young men. I can remember being young and thinking retirement is long, long way away. But trust me, it flies. It seems like I was 25 yesterday, I'm in my fifties today. Max your 401k contributions, and on top of that max out your Roth IRA every year. Don't get tricked into buying crap you don't need, don't buy an expensive truck, don't waste money on junk. Invest in yourself. Because trust me, when you hit your 50s you'll be glad you did.
A lot of people outside the industry forget about the "extra wages" I call it. These "extra wages" are all the money one saves by being on a ship. No daily gas. No daily coffee/eating out. Food, room, & board is payed for by the Company. No daily road tolls, etc etc etc. I notice a lot of people forget to "add it all up too". Lets use these numbers rounded off for easy math. You made (before tax) $40,000 in 4 months. That is $10,000 per month. Let's say you want to work 8 months of the year. 8 months of the year worked = $80,000 Let's not forget about your vacation pay Vac pay (using the numbers you said in vid) for 8 months = $20,000. Total pay for 8 months = $100,000. This number looks totally different after adding the vacation pay. Don't forget during these 8 months, we weren't ordering pizzas, buying a case or two of beer each week, getting pad thai, fueling our cars, paying for oil changes, putting wear and tear on our cars, etc etc etc. Then we still have 4 months off per year to enjoy our time. This is why I'm swapping to this career (in Jan 2025). I will make a little less money than I was in my previous job, but I will have time off to enjoy life.
I graduated in 1976 and had my first 2nd Officer job in 1979....The Sea Land Producer, and was making 7000$ monthly. To put that in context I purchased a new MG in 76 for 3500
How is it that I never heard of this… the only time I ever heard of the merchant Marine was their bravery during World War II. Do you have to take test or examinations to qualify? And are they always looking for people or is there a waiting line to get in… I feel the need for some salt air!
@@REBELSCL Gotta get your STCWs and MMC through a coast guard approved facility if you go to the union they will have you take a very basic math and english test but they are always hiring
Deducting for home time, you are looking at about 100K a year. It doesnt seem like much but when you consider room and board is paid. Plus the vacation pay. The ability to save simply because there is no mall just down the road. Its great pay! I regret blowing off my grandmother when she mentioned it when i was young. Considering in just a few years you could pay cash for a house, work another 3 months and furnish the house and another 3 months for a new car. Its so much better than the trucking industry!!! Make it a careere, being wise with your money, you can retire with a few million!
And folks as he said.......no education........Oh that's right.....he didn't hear of all the lazy, no good rich folk kids who couldn't even tie their shoes at 24 unless mommy and daddy were not their to help so they undoubtedly find the tail of Biden's train to get the relief of university debt....
Can’t beat it at all! I’m glad I found your channel, Dean. Thank you for being transparent about money. As we know, it's a sensitive topic for many. I appreciate the rundown on what to expect as a merchant mariner. I recently applied for my MMC about a week ago and hope to get on a ship in the future. Keep up the great work.
My only advice... Max out your Roth 401K. Skip the traditional unless that is where the match is and only do what is required to get the match. Then, you want to do a Roth IRA (backdoor partially at you income level). Rock it.
I worked Tugs, Fleet work on the Mississippi River and " Trip " loads. There was my Captain, and me. I was Engineer, Oiler, Head Stewart and Deckhand!! Absolutely LOVED that job!!
Watching your video brought me back to my Decking days! I totally relate to washing your ship, it was one of my duties. I worked a 14 - on, 7 day off schedule, and I lived on my boat, Miss Courtney, I found her a few years ago on ship traffic sight, but I looked the other day and couldn't find her. That job was one of the toughest, heaviest, scariest, dirtiest, best job that I ever worked. I left the electrical field for 2 years and worked on the river. Went back to electrical, and ended up wiring ships!! Hornbeck Offshore was the last.@@SailorDean4
I was in the Navy way back in the day - I had looked at being a Merchant Marine and had a buddy that went in. I look at what you are pulling down and have a LOT of respect - you are making a Grip of cash! Good on you and keep it up!
Retired out of the Army a few years ago. This was interesting…sure beats being deployed to Afghanistan and Iraq a few times…and pay and accommodations looks better too. Looks like a good option for a young person starting a career. Salute!
My granddad was a merchant marine from WW2 to 1970 when I was born he was an officer and had an engineering degree his retirement was like 80 grand a year in 1980
You're hilarious man and I love the music. That's not a bad kick in the pants, without the $7000 bonus, you're looking at about $9000 a month. If you just straight up go sea full time and did that same amount of OT you're looking at $108,000 a year.
Hello, I retired from the S.I.U. in Canada a couple of years ago. After a career of 46 years, wouldn't have changed a thing. In Canada your penalty premiums, we call here Danger pay. Thanks for the informative video. Good luck with your career, you won't regret it.
I once worked in the maritime industry, it taught me alot about office etiquette and strangley enough how to run a business while maintaining governmental certificates.
Lucky you. My Filipino nephew who’s a welder on a ship that goes all over the world told me that he makes only $5/hr 40 hours/week that totals to only $800=P40,000/month. He is underpaid like the workers in the Middle East.
It looks like your 401k is empty on your paystub. I know you're young, but you should max that out if you can afford it. I'm not sure if you get a match since you're working contract. Maybe a Roth would be better for you if you're not getting a match. A regular 401k is before taxes and a Roth is after(helps for future tax increases.. I'm not a merchant marine and didn't make comparable money when I was your age and now I'm playing catch up. I can't stress enough how important it is to save for your retirement while you're young.
Is there a long intro for a MM union? Im ready to go brother... Subbed to ya. I'm actually looking atm what I need here. Should I pay 125 USD for the TWIC and then apply for the MMC? I honestly dont know the method here. Google is awfully confusing. I just wanna go work... Any tips would be great man. Thanks.
@@SailorDean4 So the apprentice program is mandatory? Or can I test to get the license? I've got 25 years of diesel technician experience. as well as journeyman welder and machinist. I just know certain unions are really impossible to get into without first doing their programs. Just thinking I'm a bit old to get into any apprenticeship schools. I did see I can just apply for the Licenses. I'm going to look more into it tomorrow. Thanks for the videos. Looks like something I would enjoy.
Hey I'm a foreigner I think I want to do that too. Could you make a video going over the steps to get to the point you are right now? Things like what courses you must take, what you must study, so on and so forth. I'm 27, I know nothing. Thank you this is very inspiring!
One hell of a pay gap, I sailed on pcc's for a japanese company. Base pay for os is 990$, ab 1200$, bosun 1500$, 3rd off 2200$. The 2nd and chief officer wont tell us how much they get but the capt. said he gets 8000$ a month base pay. These are for all filipino crews, when I got a japanese capt he said he gets paid 22,000$ a month 😂.
Here’s a bulletin: you might be a merchant mariner (I am) but you work in the merchant marine. You don’t have to be literate in order to earn a living but as a merchant mariner, I wish you would more accurately REPRESENT!
Thanks for being so transparent! Does your vacation pay only apply to SIU graduates or to anyone dependent on company, ship, etc? I'm planning on switching careers in 2025, but will not be attending school - instead working my way up from the bottom.
I've been a union ironworker for the past 24 years but I wouldn't mind jumpin ship(no pun intended). I'm wondering though,what is considered too old to be getting in to this line of work?
@SailorDean4 It's basically like an apprenticeship program then, to get you started,or you have to pay for the schooling? And there's no age limit for acceptance into the schooling? And is it more difficult for an oldtimer to get hired on? Thanks in advance for any info and your time.
@@jaideedave Yes because they are not humans, they are monkeys and that is why they get peanuts. That is what you like to say, that is your thought process. Just based on passport you like to support discrimination.
Wow im thankful i found your video brother, used to be a mate with credentials from different country, i want to restart my career here in the US. need to fast tract as im not getting younger, good thing you said the difference of daywotk AB and AB watchstander. So if your MMC credential say AB UNLIMITED you can apply for AB watchstander? Thank you.
I like to think of the program as in 1 full year you will be an able bodied seaman As in if you do it without the school you will pay out of pocket for a couple weeks of class and be an ordinary seaman then you need to put in the time to get your AB license the school is a faster way to get your AB no school is faster to get to work
You may not have any formal college education. You have able seaman education. You live at sea. You should be paid very well for your labor at sea. It is sea education and qualifications you are paid for.
@@SailorDean4 tempting but my wife bought 2 laundromats but dam I wished I thought of the ship life years ago ...dam boring factories and working at Walmart lol
@SailorDean4 thank you so much! And thank you for being so transparent about the pay! Your video solidified my decision to go to SIU. Especially that vacation bonus!
@@Just_no_ ahhh, gotcha. I’ve been on the waiting list for a while. (Started process in March). Just waiting for them to call me with an actual date right now. Was told I’m waiting for March 2025 class.
Do you think ARC pays more? I’m looking at the board right now I see the Liberty Passion, RORO, I wonder if they pay similar. Only three pages here in MI :( lol
@ Nothing but all port ships, few AB jobs, mostly tankers, I did OSG Keywest earlier this year for 4 months, not a bad ship, but I’m not trying to do another tanker so soon. I might go with this Liberty Ro-Ro
Keep your great attitude…get that 1080 days of seatime…and learn everything you can from your watch partner. If you remain determined and study hard, you too will make a good Mate. AMO Baby! -Retired Hawsepiper
No wife, no kids, no life. I make pretty decent money in IT and live a good life. no thanks. I use to be a traveling IT consultant for Oracle, After 6 months, I hated living out of hotels.
Nice video man! Have you met any people who have hawespiped from OS to 3rd mate? I’m in the process of joining the industry but I keep reading online it’s becoming quite difficult to hawespipe to 3rd mate and it’s better to just go to an academy. So I’m weighing my options
I'm still confused on how to get jobs. Coast Guard post entry level jobs in their site and also on indeed. Some people in Reddit say you need to do some basic training stuff.
Yeah you need to get your STCW credentials which is basic firefighting lifeboat CPR now you can pay out of pocket for those classes at a coastguard certified school or you can attend the seafarers international union apprenticeship program which will give you all the credentials and more including your first job
Politics aside, it would be a hell of a thing if overtime tax got eliminated huh? And even if the economy somehow took a downturn because of it, fuck it, you’re on a boat! Where did you sail to? And how much more would pay be if it was a risky sail, like the north sea or somewhere with pirates or some shit?
I have one more question for you my friend and I will leave you alone is truly my backup plan this job. I feel weak and mindless when I get sick do they treat you well when you're sick or do they crack the whip and say get back to work?
Different for every ship it’s a certain number you will see on the contract before signing onto the ship you will have your hourly pay and your overtime pay
Yo Brother, I ve sailed on off 40yrs. Never in my life stood a 8 continuous HR. Watch. I cant watch this video. I think ur missing Or sailed ⛵️ on the other side ohf the world., Keep claiming that 🪜, and make CAPT. I could 've, didnt want it. Good Luck. I sailed SIU,NMU. I know ,that you dont know.
I am able-bodied, I also have plenty semen. But I have yet to be paid. I tend to get yelled at instead specifically over my semen placement. But what do I know?
But the nationality you are American but I'm not American I'm form Africa I want to become ship captain my nationality they pay form me less than you more or afew dollars 😅
It's not what you make it is what you save for the future! Never work for anybody that does not help with your 401K and max that sucker out! You will be a door greater at Walmart....oh wait they got rid of them.
There is no way you can make that much money. This is a more likely captain's salary, they earn approximately $10,000 per month, of course it depends on the type of ship or company. But AB does not have a salary higher than 2500 usd no matter what. So you lie for some reason.
LOL of course he earns that money. Heck, I know banquet captains at hotel's that make 10k a month. So, he definitely earns what he says he earns. It is great he is earning that money. It is like working construction at sea. So, it is hard labor.
He’s working 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, for 130 days in a row. It’s the overtime and extras that are making him money. He worked 560 hours of over time in 130 days. That’s a little over 4 hours a day overtime. And then extra for working on Saturday and Sunday. So he worked his ass off for four solid months. BTW, this is why there are so few US flagged vessels employing union Merchant Marines. A similar guy with similar skills from your usual third world country might make a small percentage of this. He will still be making a fortune for a guy from the Philippines or Malaysia. But nothing like a US Merchant Mariner.
@@Bill_N_ATX For your information, I am not from a third world country, I am from Croatia and a former C/O. There is something called "work and rest hours" on ship, you should read about it before you claim anything on this issue.
@@alen379 the man showed you the pay stub on how he made the money. He’s a Union mariner on a US flagged Jones act ship. They make very good money because they work on protected ships in protected jobs. If you want to haul cargo or people between US ports you have to hire US citizens and pay prevailing wages. You think his pay is high….there are harbor pilots in the US making almost $300,000 a year. This is also why there is only 1 US flagged cruise ship and it sails around the Hawaiian islands, one of the few places where the higher cruise fares can compete and it’s very difficult for foreign flagged vessels to compete. Why? Since a foreign flagged vessel can’t just carry passengers from US port to US port, it must make a visit to a foreign port during a cruise. Since the closest foreign port is thousands of miles away and any cruise eats up not only valuable fuel but uses up at least a few days at sea, there is no competition from foreign ships. The crew on that ship also pays similar union wages but they don’t get as much overtime so they get paid less in an effort to keep crew costs down.
Yup,, good money buttt,, it cost Mr a 40yr. Marriage....👎🖕..!! Highest divorce rate of all professions...Soooo, think about the whole story...🤔..!? ABSOLUTELY " NOT " FOR MARRIED PERSONS..!!!!
Biggest thing is not only did you make 42k you’re expenses while you were gone were low so you have most of that money. I always tell people this is one of the last careers that you can really make some money and set yourself up for the future. Even if you don’t want to sail for a long time. Sail 5 years, stack some cash, buy a house and pay it off, and invest. After 5 years you can go do whatever. Pay yourself first as they say. Skip the brand new 90k truck and bullshit materialistic stuff. Set yourself up for the future. I went to an Academy and then climbed the ranks. I highly recommend you get your mates license and start making even more $.
Couldn’t agreee more
Absolutely. If I could give one piece of advice to young men. I can remember being young and thinking retirement is long, long way away. But trust me, it flies. It seems like I was 25 yesterday, I'm in my fifties today. Max your 401k contributions, and on top of that max out your Roth IRA every year. Don't get tricked into buying crap you don't need, don't buy an expensive truck, don't waste money on junk. Invest in yourself. Because trust me, when you hit your 50s you'll be glad you did.
I wish I had your advice 30 years ago! I went a different route and somehow made out fine - but the Merchant Marines is a solid choice.
A lot of people outside the industry forget about the "extra wages" I call it. These "extra wages" are all the money one saves by being on a ship. No daily gas. No daily coffee/eating out. Food, room, & board is payed for by the Company. No daily road tolls, etc etc etc.
I notice a lot of people forget to "add it all up too".
Lets use these numbers rounded off for easy math.
You made (before tax) $40,000 in 4 months. That is $10,000 per month. Let's say you want to work 8 months of the year.
8 months of the year worked = $80,000
Let's not forget about your vacation pay
Vac pay (using the numbers you said in vid) for 8 months = $20,000.
Total pay for 8 months = $100,000.
This number looks totally different after adding the vacation pay. Don't forget during these 8 months, we weren't ordering pizzas, buying a case or two of beer each week, getting pad thai, fueling our cars, paying for oil changes, putting wear and tear on our cars, etc etc etc. Then we still have 4 months off per year to enjoy our time.
This is why I'm swapping to this career (in Jan 2025). I will make a little less money than I was in my previous job, but I will have time off to enjoy life.
You got that right
I graduated in 1976 and had my first 2nd Officer job in 1979....The Sea Land Producer, and was making 7000$ monthly. To put that in context I purchased a new MG in 76 for 3500
Now that’s amazing
@@SailorDean4 Following Seas, Dean...
I was the 3rd engineer on the SeaLand Trader in 2000. I made 24K per month on that money printer.
How is it that I never heard of this… the only time I ever heard of the merchant Marine was their bravery during World War II. Do you have to take test or examinations to qualify? And are they always looking for people or is there a waiting line to get in… I feel the need for some salt air!
@@REBELSCL Gotta get your STCWs and MMC through a coast guard approved facility if you go to the union they will have you take a very basic math and english test but they are always hiring
Deducting for home time, you are looking at about 100K a year. It doesnt seem like much but when you consider room and board is paid. Plus the vacation pay. The ability to save simply because there is no mall just down the road. Its great pay! I regret blowing off my grandmother when she mentioned it when i was young. Considering in just a few years you could pay cash for a house, work another 3 months and furnish the house and another 3 months for a new car. Its so much better than the trucking industry!!! Make it a careere, being wise with your money, you can retire with a few million!
And folks as he said.......no education........Oh that's right.....he didn't hear of all the lazy, no good rich folk kids who couldn't even tie their shoes at 24 unless mommy and daddy were not their to help so they undoubtedly find the tail of Biden's train to get the relief of university debt....
Can’t beat it at all! I’m glad I found your channel, Dean. Thank you for being transparent about money. As we know, it's a sensitive topic for many. I appreciate the rundown on what to expect as a merchant mariner. I recently applied for my MMC about a week ago and hope to get on a ship in the future. Keep up the great work.
Thanks good luck with your journey it’s worth it
Longshorman here. I work some of the ships some of the guys commenting.
Thanks for the video. Very interesting.
Lots of respect for you and the longshoremen
My only advice... Max out your Roth 401K. Skip the traditional unless that is where the match is and only do what is required to get the match. Then, you want to do a Roth IRA (backdoor partially at you income level). Rock it.
I worked Tugs, Fleet work on the Mississippi River and " Trip " loads. There was my Captain, and me. I was Engineer, Oiler, Head Stewart and Deckhand!! Absolutely LOVED that job!!
That’s actually sounds amazing would love to hear more about it
Watching your video brought me back to my Decking days! I totally relate to washing your ship, it was one of my duties. I worked a 14 - on, 7 day off schedule, and I lived on my boat, Miss Courtney, I found her a few years ago on ship traffic sight, but I looked the other day and couldn't find her. That job was one of the toughest, heaviest, scariest, dirtiest, best job that I ever worked. I left the electrical field for 2 years and worked on the river. Went back to electrical, and ended up wiring ships!! Hornbeck Offshore was the last.@@SailorDean4
I was in the Navy way back in the day - I had looked at being a Merchant Marine and had a buddy that went in. I look at what you are pulling down and have a LOT of respect - you are making a Grip of cash! Good on you and keep it up!
Great information, I'm going to share this on our facebook page so our students can see the potential if they stick with the program.
Awesome, thank you!
Retired out of the Army a few years ago. This was interesting…sure beats being deployed to Afghanistan and Iraq a few times…and pay and accommodations looks better too. Looks like a good option for a young person starting a career. Salute!
My granddad was a merchant marine from WW2 to 1970 when I was born he was an officer and had an engineering degree his retirement was like 80 grand a year in 1980
You're doing just fine young man. Totally ahead of the curve compared to most!
I remember you being the head bosun at the school lol. Class 869. Time flies . Cool videos.
It really does hope your doing good
Class 392 here.
Great content. I'm waiting on my medical; got my credential. I'm coming your way. Thanks Man
LETS GO
You're hilarious man and I love the music. That's not a bad kick in the pants, without the $7000 bonus, you're looking at about $9000 a month. If you just straight up go sea full time and did that same amount of OT you're looking at $108,000 a year.
Hello, I retired from the S.I.U. in Canada a couple of years ago. After a career of 46 years, wouldn't have changed a thing. In Canada your penalty premiums, we call here Danger pay. Thanks for the informative video. Good luck with your career, you won't regret it.
Thank you hope to have a long career you are inspiring
I once worked in the maritime industry, it taught me alot about office etiquette and strangley enough how to run a business while maintaining governmental certificates.
My uncle and several cousins were part of the merchant marines.
Lucky you. My Filipino nephew who’s a welder on a ship that goes all over the world told me that he makes only $5/hr 40 hours/week that totals to only $800=P40,000/month. He is underpaid like the workers in the Middle East.
It looks like your 401k is empty on your paystub. I know you're young, but you should max that out if you can afford it. I'm not sure if you get a match since you're working contract. Maybe a Roth would be better for you if you're not getting a match. A regular 401k is before taxes and a Roth is after(helps for future tax increases.. I'm not a merchant marine and didn't make comparable money when I was your age and now I'm playing catch up. I can't stress enough how important it is to save for your retirement while you're young.
Thank you for the advice I max the Roth
Thank you young man for the perfectly broken down pay scale with the copy of all the numbers.
Your welcome
Is there a long intro for a MM union? Im ready to go brother...
Subbed to ya. I'm actually looking atm what I need here. Should I pay 125 USD for the TWIC and then apply for the MMC? I honestly dont know the method here. Google is awfully confusing. I just wanna go work... Any tips would be great man. Thanks.
Get those STCWs and MMC and get in that hall haha
@@SailorDean4 So the apprentice program is mandatory? Or can I test to get the license? I've got 25 years of diesel technician experience. as well as journeyman welder and machinist.
I just know certain unions are really impossible to get into without first doing their programs. Just thinking I'm a bit old to get into any apprenticeship schools.
I did see I can just apply for the Licenses. I'm going to look more into it tomorrow. Thanks for the videos. Looks like something I would enjoy.
👽👽👽I have to chuckle. As a Boatswains Mate in 1984 on a Destroyer Tender since i was E-3 i made around $400 a month😂😂😂 Can you imagine?
Respect to you what a life 🫡
Hey I'm a foreigner I think I want to do that too.
Could you make a video going over the steps to get to the point you are right now? Things like what courses you must take, what you must study, so on and so forth. I'm 27, I know nothing.
Thank you this is very inspiring!
Yes I will make that video for you
WTH, You have NOTHING going into your 401K! You should be maxing that out (making that kind of money). You’ll need it, I retired at 50.
I agree!! He's not very bright if he's not maxing out his 401k.
I would start contributing to some sort of retirement account for a Roth IRA so that you’ve got something to fall back on in your later years
One hell of a pay gap, I sailed on pcc's for a japanese company. Base pay for os is 990$, ab 1200$, bosun 1500$, 3rd off 2200$. The 2nd and chief officer wont tell us how much they get but the capt. said he gets 8000$ a month base pay. These are for all filipino crews, when I got a japanese capt he said he gets paid 22,000$ a month 😂.
Awesome. Good work, and you love it! 🇺🇸
I’m so nervous, I’m waiting on my security background and I had a juve record as a 15 yr old… I really hope I can change my life
You definitely can wait till you hear my story
I had a record and I had no problems getting in
Here’s a bulletin: you might be a merchant mariner (I am) but you work in the merchant marine.
You don’t have to be literate in order to earn a living but as a merchant mariner, I wish you would more accurately REPRESENT!
Thanks for being so transparent! Does your vacation pay only apply to SIU graduates or to anyone dependent on company, ship, etc? I'm planning on switching careers in 2025, but will not be attending school - instead working my way up from the bottom.
If you join the SIU you will get the vacation pay you don’t need to attend the school to join the SIU
@@SailorDean4 Thanks brother! I'll be joining then!
Thumbs up for the right attitude.
Damn i can't wait
Same fam! Class soon for me
What's your start date?
I've been a union ironworker for the past 24 years but I wouldn't mind jumpin ship(no pun intended). I'm wondering though,what is considered too old to be getting in to this line of work?
I’ve worked with men over 80 haha
@SailorDean4 It's basically like an apprenticeship program then, to get you started,or you have to pay for the schooling? And there's no age limit for acceptance into the schooling? And is it more difficult for an oldtimer to get hired on? Thanks in advance for any info and your time.
Hello dean can you make a video about getting unemployment after the ships? I dont think there is any video on this topic
I work in the OR…..my base wage is $12 hr more than your overtime…..my call pay is more than your base
Gotta make that money
On international ships ABs get $ 800 per month including vacation pay!
It all depends on which passport you have. Indians and Philipinos get lower salaries than western people.
@@jaideedave Yes because they are not humans, they are monkeys and that is why they get peanuts. That is what you like to say, that is your thought process. Just based on passport you like to support discrimination.
Wow im thankful i found your video brother, used to be a mate with credentials from different country, i want to restart my career here in the US. need to fast tract as im not getting younger, good thing you said the difference of daywotk AB and AB watchstander. So if your MMC credential say AB UNLIMITED you can apply for AB watchstander? Thank you.
Yes you can AB unlimited is the best credential for a AB job
What’s up bro great vids how long does school take ? Or should I go through the basic entry level and it’s faster?
I like to think of the program as in 1 full year you will be an able bodied seaman
As in if you do it without the school you will pay out of pocket for a couple weeks of class and be an ordinary seaman then you need to put in the time to get your AB license the school is a faster way to get your AB no school is faster to get to work
Oh! I'm working on board of crude oil tankers and get 12000$ monthly. Looks like I need shift my family to USA and try to get MMC
Get your mates license. You'll make twice that for the same amount of time
You may not have any formal college education. You have able seaman education. You live at sea. You should be paid very well for your labor at sea. It is sea education and qualifications you are paid for.
Right about that
You're biggest mistake, zero contribution to the 401k
I was in class 359 (1982 ) now work as a Chief Engineer- 40 years in this Industry- still working.
Wow amazing
I am proof that it can be done- become an Officer- SIU is a good stepping stone
What does a chief engineer make a month?
@ hard to put an exact number on it but a lot more then me haha
In ROS at the dock- clear 13k month. At sea 40k per month
Man that's awesome I got a GED I'm 52 I wished I did that back than
Never too late I know people who started at your age
@@SailorDean4 tempting but my wife bought 2 laundromats but dam I wished I thought of the ship life years ago ...dam boring factories and working at Walmart lol
That was interesting. That's for the video.
Very interesting.
Great vid man! Heading to piney point in a couple weeks looking forward to it now!🙏🏽
@@carlt1997 You’ll have a great experience. It will change you life
Heading to SIU soon! Can you make q video of your perspective of the deck compared to engine department?
@@Just_no_ Officially my next video
@SailorDean4 thank you so much! And thank you for being so transparent about the pay! Your video solidified my decision to go to SIU. Especially that vacation bonus!
@@Just_no_ you got a class date yet?
@hunterbuster8919 hey! No not yet, currently finished application and setting up an appointment with a union for testing this month
@@Just_no_ ahhh, gotcha. I’ve been on the waiting list for a while. (Started process in March). Just waiting for them to call me with an actual date right now. Was told I’m waiting for March 2025 class.
0:54 sounded so ‘living a memory’
I'm a former navy corpsman. Are there any positions like that on the ships?
There are medical ships or on cable ships there are nurses one per ship paid very well
@SailorDean4 thank you!
Do you think ARC pays more? I’m looking at the board right now I see the Liberty Passion, RORO, I wonder if they pay similar. Only three pages here in MI :( lol
I do believe ARC pays more then liberty what other jobs you got on your board
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Nothing but all port ships, few AB jobs, mostly tankers, I did OSG Keywest earlier this year for 4 months, not a bad ship, but I’m not trying to do another tanker so soon. I might go with this Liberty Ro-Ro
@@SailorDean4 I just took the Liberty Passion haha, goes between Oregon and Japan/Korea.
I’m gonna be an animal in Korea
Keep your great attitude…get that 1080 days of seatime…and learn everything you can from your watch partner. If you remain determined and study hard, you too will make a good Mate.
AMO Baby!
-Retired Hawsepiper
Much respect not easy being a hawsepiper
@@SailorDean4
IF I DID IT SO CAN YOU.
The SIU saved my sorry ass…AMO gave me a career.
No wife, no kids, no life. I make pretty decent money in IT and live a good life. no thanks. I use to be a traveling IT consultant for Oracle, After 6 months, I hated living out of hotels.
Nice video man! Have you met any people who have hawespiped from OS to 3rd mate?
I’m in the process of joining the industry but I keep reading online it’s becoming quite difficult to hawespipe to 3rd mate and it’s better to just go to an academy.
So I’m weighing my options
My last captain was a hawsepiper who started out as an OS at 30 so it’s possible I’m gonna hawsepipe my way up I believe we can do it
@@SailorDean4 awesome, good luck on your journey! Hope to join you out there soon
I'm still confused on how to get jobs.
Coast Guard post entry level jobs in their site and also on indeed.
Some people in Reddit say you need to do some basic training stuff.
Yeah you need to get your STCW credentials which is basic firefighting lifeboat CPR now you can pay out of pocket for those classes at a coastguard certified school or you can attend the seafarers international union apprenticeship program which will give you all the credentials and more including your first job
Man you look like you write hella books I like the content though. You look like Popeye before he was popeye 🤣
Top comment 🤣
+ He dont spend any money while he is on the ship. Except for his mortgage/rent.
Is overtime required to do? Given its name it seems like it would be optional (and thats what i always assumed).
Some ships overtime is required some they give you a lot more of an option to decide if you wanna work the overtime
What a cool career. They don't really advertise this job to young people.
Very true trying to do that myself
Get your Mates License, you'll make twice that for the same amount of time.
Politics aside, it would be a hell of a thing if overtime tax got eliminated huh? And even if the economy somehow took a downturn because of it, fuck it, you’re on a boat! Where did you sail to? And how much more would pay be if it was a risky sail, like the north sea or somewhere with pirates or some shit?
Pay differs depending on the ship every contract is different check out my other videos to see where I’ve been sailing too 👍
I have one more question for you my friend and I will leave you alone is truly my backup plan this job. I feel weak and mindless when I get sick do they treat you well when you're sick or do they crack the whip and say get back to work?
They understand when you are sick sea sick or injured you still have your duties but they will never crack the whip
A little over 10K a month. or 120K a year.
Ahh, I live in Jacksonville! Do I have to go to school to do this?
You don’t have to go too school there are many ways to get your credentials check out my 3 easiest ways video to see what works for you
Question? you are pretty jacked. Do you have a gym on board the ship?
Yes all ships are required a fitness center
How is overtime pay calculated? is it still time and a half like it is working a regular job?
Different for every ship it’s a certain number you will see on the contract before signing onto the ship you will have your hourly pay and your overtime pay
Too bad you're not in engineering!, you know, the guys that actually run the ship!
No 401 k or Roth contribution? When u upgrading for the big money?😊
I got the personal Roth I put money too
Yessah
Filipino AB's don''t even get half so much!
Is there paramedics on board to treat you ?
There are not the officers on board are qualified medical officers
I will become a seaman
How do u handle pirates??
This dude is looking like Popeye!!! Forearms for days!!!
Yo Brother,
I ve sailed on off
40yrs.
Never in my life stood a 8 continuous HR.
Watch.
I cant watch this video.
I think ur missing
Or sailed ⛵️ on the other side ohf the world.,
Keep claiming that 🪜, and make CAPT.
I could 've, didnt want it.
Good Luck.
I sailed SIU,NMU.
I know ,that you dont know.
Stood 2 four hours watches equals 8 hours a day
🪜
What up bro do I need to go to school for 5 month or can I just get my mmc and join
The school is the better option but you can always pay out of pocket get the credentials and ship out as an ordinary seaman
Than how much do a captain make per month ???
A lot more
I am able-bodied, I also have plenty semen. But I have yet to be paid. I tend to get yelled at instead specifically over my semen placement.
But what do I know?
Any idea sir how to apply in your company?im also a AB
Best option would be to join the SIU seafarers international union and get a job through them
Hello Dean is there any chance of me getting a job as a deck cadet in a foreign ship
Where you from
What company is this you’re working for
This ship was Tote
Do you get medical/Dental/Vision by chance?
Yes I do through the union. Seafarers international union
But the nationality you are American but I'm not American I'm form Africa I want to become ship captain my nationality they pay form me less than you more or afew dollars 😅
How many hours a week ? 12hrs x 7days ?
Yes sir
@SailorDean4 just curious if you do this job 25 years do you have a guess on what your potential pension will be ?
@@Brian.Martin It all depends on the sea time you acquire some people work four months a year where others do eight all time on a ship is sea time
How do I sign up for this???...
Check out my video easiest ways to become a merchant mariner
@@SailorDean4 I just looked and can't find it on your page???
That Dude has a bird's nest on the ground ...
You are stunning on All Levels. ;p
im 77, where do i sign up
Go to the apprenticeship program 👍
I'm almost 62 I'm through working. I've been through for 10 years ..
Thats money saved and you got 3 hots and a cot 😂😂
I like the way you think
It's not what you make it is what you save for the future! Never work for anybody that does not help with your 401K and max that sucker out! You will be a door greater at Walmart....oh wait they got rid of them.
what is ab?
Able bodied seaman a qualified mariner in the merchant marine
I'm not making fun of you, but watching this you remind me of a younger popeye
Big compliment
What was the balance due of $4,414.10? Do you have to pay that to the union?
No union dues is only $125 a quarter so you pay $125 four times a year for union dues
Real life Popeye!
There is no way you can make that much money. This is a more likely captain's salary, they earn approximately $10,000 per month, of course it depends on the type of ship or company. But AB does not have a salary higher than 2500 usd no matter what. So you lie for some reason.
No lies just trying to inspire people to work in the maritime industry
LOL of course he earns that money. Heck, I know banquet captains at hotel's that make 10k a month. So, he definitely earns what he says he earns. It is great he is earning that money. It is like working construction at sea. So, it is hard labor.
He’s working 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, for 130 days in a row. It’s the overtime and extras that are making him money. He worked 560 hours of over time in 130 days. That’s a little over 4 hours a day overtime. And then extra for working on Saturday and Sunday. So he worked his ass off for four solid months.
BTW, this is why there are so few US flagged vessels employing union Merchant Marines. A similar guy with similar skills from your usual third world country might make a small percentage of this. He will still be making a fortune for a guy from the Philippines or Malaysia. But nothing like a US Merchant Mariner.
@@Bill_N_ATX For your information, I am not from a third world country, I am from Croatia and a former C/O. There is something called "work and rest hours" on ship, you should read about it before you claim anything on this issue.
@@alen379 the man showed you the pay stub on how he made the money. He’s a Union mariner on a US flagged Jones act ship. They make very good money because they work on protected ships in protected jobs. If you want to haul cargo or people between US ports you have to hire US citizens and pay prevailing wages. You think his pay is high….there are harbor pilots in the US making almost $300,000 a year.
This is also why there is only 1 US flagged cruise ship and it sails around the Hawaiian islands, one of the few places where the higher cruise fares can compete and it’s very difficult for foreign flagged vessels to compete. Why? Since a foreign flagged vessel can’t just carry passengers from US port to US port, it must make a visit to a foreign port during a cruise. Since the closest foreign port is thousands of miles away and any cruise eats up not only valuable fuel but uses up at least a few days at sea, there is no competition from foreign ships. The crew on that ship also pays similar union wages but they don’t get as much overtime so they get paid less in an effort to keep crew costs down.
Yup,, good money buttt,, it cost Mr a 40yr. Marriage....👎🖕..!!
Highest divorce rate of all professions...Soooo, think about the whole story...🤔..!? ABSOLUTELY " NOT " FOR MARRIED PERSONS..!!!!
Good point not for everyone I do see relationships that work out here
Its popeye
Most get replaced by philippino's these days.
The way he was talking I thought he was making more money then that