What Does the Bible Actually Say About Slavery?
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- Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
- One of the most common arguments against the Bible concerns its stance on "slavery." At first glance, the word "slavery" seems identical to our modern understanding, particularly the tragic results of the Atlantic slave trade. However, after some research, it becomes clear that the Bible is discussing two entirely different concepts. The type of slavery seen in the Atlantic Slave Trade is never endorsed by God. In fact, whenever something like that is mentioned, it is described as evil in the sight of God. God freed the Israelites out of slavery from Egypt. Watch the rest of the video to discover what scripture actually refers to when it uses terms like "slave."
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Free Will, not the will of God.
Ray doesnt repentance happen the moment you first believe? Going from unbelief to belief. I cant imagine an unbeliever repenting of sins without first believing. Once I first believed the Gospel then automatically I felt sorrow for my sins and wanted to turn from them... not to clean myself up but because I felt terrible now knowing that I had sinned against God. But I know that me feeling sorrow or turning from my sins is not what saves me... its only trusting and believing in the atoning blood of Jesus. His death, buriel and resurrection.
The arrogant do not take the time to sincerely seek God and know Him. Therefore, they lack wisdom.
Hey ray, what is the text you would use for God gives all people a freewill ? I totally agree, I am a provisionist and this text that you would point to, would give more evidence against the calvinistic side who says freewill is an illusion.
@@joshuawoodin7 you have the freedom to do whatever it is in your will to do. And your will is in bondage to sin, doing only evil continually. Only upon God converting the will do you believe
When he said “ thank you, I needed this” it got me choked up. You know Ray got the message through. God bless, brother🙏🏼
Yes, grandma's prayers will be answered! 🙏
He heard Ray and the truth of the Gospel and a loving God!
I was sitting on my bed and had just shut my laptop and went into a vision. I was in front of a judge I was looking up at him as he was very high up, he suddenly slammed down his gauntlet and yelled GUILTY! With no argument I turned with my head down to walk towards my fate and out of the corner of my eye I saw a bright light when I looked up, I saw Jesus with His arms outstretched and a huge smile on His face. I knew He was there to save me.💗
What crime did you commit?
What were you found guilty of?
I once had a dream that a hamburger was eating me!
@@neckutter1125 That's too deep for me.😅
BEAUTIFUL
@@2l84me8the 10 commandments are God’s moral law and we all have broken that law. We are all guilty and deserve hell. No one is good enough…no one is good but God. This is why Jesus died on the cross. He paid the price so we don’t have to. All we need to do is turn away from sin and put our faith and trust into Jesus. The only way to heaven is through Jesus. He is the only one that can save us from this sinful life.
Dear Pastor, I really loved the combination of the street and the studio conversation.
May the Lord continue blessing you.
During the 8 hours I work each day, I'm a bondservant
But you are not a chattel slave, as condoned by God in the Bible.
@@cygnusustus Nor did I imply as much
@@livenotonevil8279
The issue is about chattel slavery.
What was the point of bringing up indentured servitude?
@@cygnusustus
That is entirely the point. Your definition of chattel slavery is not the Biblical definition or description of slavery.
@@tituslaird1265
"That is entirely the point. Your definition of chattel slavery is not the Biblical definition or description of slavery."
Bzzzz! Sorry bucko. You lose again.
Chattel slavery is defined as "the enslaving and owning of human beings and their offspring as property, able to be bought, sold, and forced to work. Another definition is: "The condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control, especially in involuntary servitude."
Leviticus 25 explicitly describes and condones chattel slavery.
"44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour."
Of all the situations you've been through, your reaction to it, is directly related to your relationship with Jesus.
Wow
What a lovely guy! Bless him Lord and bring him into your kingdom 🙏
Romans 6:15-23 we are slaves to sin or righteousness . Also Isaiah 59 and Titus 3:1-11 . We don't have to defend The Lion He can defend Himself.
Leviticus 25:44-46
In Ephesians Paul uses slavery as a metaphor to describe the human condition, with the choice of being a slave to sin or to God. He believed that slavery is an inevitable part of human existence, and that becoming a slave means giving up status. Paul also identified himself and good Christians as slaves of God, and gave slaves control over their own salvation.
@@sallylara1102 it's not a metaphor it's a literal condition. A slave does not get to decide what to do for himself but must do what someone else tells him
@@cosmictreason2242 Thank you for pointing out the obvious.
Romans 6:20-23 here is another one Romans 3:10-18 no one is good and seeks after God . And the accurate translation to Doulos is slave.
I am a slave to Christ Jesus my Lord and Savior!!!!
A sexslave?
Amen Brother me too!
Don’t be ridiculous
@@user-rc2xs5ti2w ?
I am a Child of God 🤸🤸🤸♥️💫
This format works well! Praying for all those hurt by slavery to know the Savior who sets all men free who repent and place their lives in Christ! No truer words “I needed this”.
So you’re going to pray for the god that permitted slavery to help those hurt by slavery?
This is your brain on religion.
@@2l84me8Yes.
Is it OK if we pray for white slaves too?
You mean the same that endorses slavery and gave the Israelitics instructions on how to buy slaves and own them as property. Leviticus 25: 44-46
And that slave masters can physically abuse slaves as long as they survive within 1-2 days. Exodus 21:20-21
Anytime this kind of discussion gets brought up I’m going to send the person THIS! Thank you ray comfort.
Always enlighten and inspiring watching everyone of your videos sir Ray
Extremely good show, and very timely ❤. Thank you so much for your boldness in Truth.
Great video❤
We’re not slaves we are Servants of Yeshua unto His Covenant and Commandments
Why does an all powerful god need servants for, again?
Or do the church leaders simply want your obedience and money?
@@2l84me8He doesn’t need servants, he can make rocks do his will if he wants. Luke 19:40 But because he loves people enough that he would die for them, he sends out his people who have been eternally blessed with everlasting life to reflect his love, the church (all believers) to be a witness to the whole world. God doesn’t wish that anyone should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2nd Peter 3:9 I don’t entirely know the in’s and out’s to God’s reason why he’d use people as flawed as Noah, who got drunk, Abraham, who slept with his wife’s maid, Moses, who killed a man, David, who had committed adultery and murdered the adulteress’s husband, and many other people. But it really goes to show how patience and merciful he is, he came on this earth to die for his enemies. But God, though patient, will still have his day of justice. Those hypocrites who are just looking to get your money will get what they deserve, but same thing as liars, thieves, blasphemers, adulterers, murderers, and fornicators. There will not be a soul that will be innocent, so get right with God otherwise you’ll face the same fate as those money grabbing preachers.
@@2l84me8we are servants meaning He live thru us and we are to show others the way
@@SELAHPAUSE That didn’t answer my question at all.
Where’s your evidence?
@@2l84me8God has no “needs”
The interview made me cry ❤
I love your videos Ray keep them up !
That guy totally changed by the end! God bless him. 🙏
Beautiful presentation of the simple, yet profound truth ❤
More like a bunch of nonsense.
as a Christian.
I've had a lot of nihilistic feelings and thinking for a long time, and it's worse because i'm Autistic. And since I'm autistic, the way my life has been. The way my life has been.
For most of my short life. Has almost felt like a Jail And even when I had My job. I just always felt like my life was meaningless, and it was doing nothing that my life.
He's just wasting away, achieving nothing, being nothing, and being stuck where I live.
I often feel Julius, Caesar. Because he When he read about the conquest of alexander the great He cried Because everything he had done in life was nothing compared alexander and his short life Alexander did something to get himself remembered forever And caesar realized At that point in his life. He would be forgotten and never remembered. And from those feelings gave birth for Caesar's desire for conquest. And to be like alexander
I have often Pleaded with God for years. Or just strictly told him I hate my life But I wish I could live in the past. Live a different life in be like that was great, conquerors and generals and warriors of the past.
I'm a history nerd and I love conquest I could fit more into the past Then I would in the modern world
I am not ignorant what I say because I'm a historynerd and I know how people lived I've I know more about history than people know about their own languages.
I have just wanted a life that had more meaning and had more things for me to do And and not have a life that turns to dust
I just know I could have done more if I was given a chance In a different Point in history I just know There were so many lives I could have lived and just would have been better
I've read it all😂. God bless you fam🙏
My Brother, you have your chance right now to be a warrior for our Lord Jesus Christ. Our Lord will do great conquest with you! Our Lord is coming in our lifetime so be in prayer with our Lord and tell Him you want Him to do great things with you for His glory. God bless you and I can't wait to meet you when we our with our Lord!!!
I am on the Spectrum as well, with Asperger's. It's certainly a trial, but I see it as a gift as well, in many ways. I'll be praying for you!
Well, you're articulate, knock and the door will open, seek and you will find. Dont give up!
You were born for such a time as this! God has not made a mistake. He has great & wonderful plans for your life as you let Him into the driver’s seat of you life. He will use the things this world has inflicted in marvelous ways! (Are you familiar with the story of Brant Hansen on KLOVE?). Surrender to Jesus as Lord & trust Him as Savior from the penalty of your sins. Get into His Word (start in one of the Gospels?) & find a Bible-believing church where you can be in community with others. God has the meaning & purpose for which you’ve been looking! ❤
How would you respond to the claim, "The Bible supports slavery!"?
Exodus 20 says differently.
Paul's letter to Philemon
Indentured servitude
Well the abolitionists that fought to eradicate slavery were mostly Christians so I guess the Bible must be open to interpretation to have such drastically opposing views 😉
I probably don't have an accurate or biblical answer but what comes to mind is 'Render unto Ceasar' and 'the god (small g) of this world has blinded'.
Like Daniel and Joseph, Christians exist and live within a world system at any given time. These systems aren't typically controlled by Christians, no matter how much they'd like to believe they do.
Whether people like it or not, true believers would probably not treat slaves as merely animals or property but as fellow image bearers.
These world systems on the other hand, would probably just recapture a freed slave and resell them to a new master.
If you really think about it, a righteous master would be the safest place for such persons to stay with. They would be protected from the larger society (civilization).
Just a personal opinion though.
Such an Amazing video praise GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seed planted! Great work Ray!
1 Timothy 1:10 was the Scripture to quote. Thank you Ray!
Wow great apologetics to learn from!
Glad this video is out for people to see.
Only if they have eyes to see…
And hear 👂 it out.
@@melissaculpepper7663
If only Christians were honest.
@@cygnusustus They are the biggest cherrypicking liars EVER.
When will people stop asking God why he didn't stop this and stop that. When are people going to thank God for the air they breathe, the sun, the rain, the food, and more importantly coming down on this sinful planet and dying to give us a chance to be forgiven for our sins and have the hope to have eternal life
Should the children who are being sex trafficked thank God?
@@user-gb3hu9nk3q You can't blame God for what people do to children or anyone else. If you did something wrong, should others get the blame also? These people will be punished for their actions unless they come to Jesus and ask for forgiveness.
Jon McCray ("Whaddo You Meme??" is his channel name here on RUclips) also did a great series digging into the topic of slavery and the Bible, too. Highly recommend looking that up, for any reading.
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Thanks for this!
I needed this. This is what evangelism should evoke from someone.
Morgan: “I’m gonna stop calling you a White man.”
Mike Wallace: “But, but, but… I’m Jewish…”
And yes, he did say that. 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼🤦🏼♀️
The ancient Semites weren't white.
I don’t get it
@@DaveBoswell-lz3kc Mike Wallace was not an ancient Semite any more than Hitler was. And ancient Semites were all shades of brown just as Japhethites were.
@@christisking777 Wallace tried to discredit everything Morgan Freeman said because:
A.) It didn’t agree with the Marxist CBS mantra of progressive racism and…
B.) He was claiming that he wasn’t White even though it’s plain to see that he was.
@@Inmate533ah thank you! 🙏
Deutoronomy 28:68 The LORD will send you back in ships to Egypt on a journey I said you should never make again. There you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.
SLAVERY WaS A. CURSE put on Israel because of disobedience
Thank you guys for the content, it really helps me understand the gospel further and grow in my relationship with Jesus! ❤
No one nor Nation gets to escape their Judgements.
Never gets old.
At 14:08, the young man in the video shows a misunderstanding of what love is as do many people nowadays. Love is not a feeling, it's not something that you can fall into like a cow pie. It is a decision like God's decision to create and then to love us. But I love his response to Ray's gentle witness.
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People hate others without knowing who they are
It’s time we start loving people if we know them or not
The children of Israel were slaves in Egypt for 400 years. They reaped what they sowed. They sold Joseph into slavery. The children of Judah were taken captive in Babylon. Joseph was exalted to the 2nd in command and Daniel’s obedience made him the kings favorite. Daniel received visions of the end of days. Paul the apostle was imprisoned and he wrote most of the New Testament. He that is greatest of you must be your servant(slave). If you can be free be free.
Forced to serve. Poor Hebrews and poor gentiles were forced to serve by debt. But it was a choice to take out a loan..as it is today, and yet another choice to have God absolve that debt (fin&sin) completely. Sin makes you a slave by force
This is a great video, thanks for posting guys! I do wish though you had addressed specifically Lev 25:44-46 which is talking about non Israelites and God allowing them to be kept as slaves 'permanently' and as 'property' vs Israelite 'slaves' who were to be released after a certain amount of time or in the year of jubilee. This is a passage I've often wondered about.
He doesn’t wanna talk about it nor does any other Christian because they can’t explain it. The Israelites are allowed to have slaves
@@ThrowAway-xy4otHuh? It was a Christian who just brought it up in the comment you replied to...
@REKKnives You make a good point. I don't understand why people shy away from those parts of scripture. No biblical discussion of slavery is complete without them. Pretending they don't exist is silly.
@@CP-dk8oi Christian that doesn’t want to explain it. Meaning a teacher someone who’s going to teach. That’s why I’m referring to people like in the video who are teaching other people
It’s about sojourners (those of foreign ancestry passing through Israel or temporarily dwelling there) who don’t have a permanent residence selling themselves into servitude to Israelites in order to escape poverty, homelessness, and death. However, in the same passage a few verses earlier, Israelites are counseled to freely help sojourners who are fallen on hard times.
Beautiful praise the Lord🙏🏻
You can litterly see him soften as Ray shares the Gospel with him🥲🙏
free will
Free will is one thing, but the law given to Israel, who were God's chosen people, were literally given the permission to take sl. av. es. That's deeper than just an answer of "free will". It brings into question what God deems good, right and just if he allowed things that were abhorrent.
@@tryphenarose384your comment sounds like you did not understand what they said. Exodus 21:16 says:
Exodus 21:16 ESV
[16] “Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death.
That was the slavery of early America, not the Bible.
How does that line up with your comment? In God's letter to mankind, called the Bible, He talks about much that he does not condone but is true and is supposed to be used for us to learn more about Him. Most of the terms translated slave in the Bible actually would be more accurately translated as bondservant.
Please check this out. You really have misunderstood this video and that term.
@mikeslater6246 He said its ok to beat slaves just as long as they didnt die within a few days.
What a loving tyrant!
@@user-gb3hu9nk3q I'm not going to argue with a person who has no understanding at all of who God is and what his word, the Bible says. And obviously has no desire to learn.
@mikeslater6246 I have read the Bible and was a christian for 20 years. If there were no contradictions in the Bible there would not be over 1,000 different Christian denominations.
Slavery was different then, poor people worked for food as salary, after a specific time (they're freed)
So many of them they put themselves into slavery, sometimes their family gave up their children because they didn't have enough food.
"Slavery was different then"
Nope.
Under Mosaic law, foreign slaves were chattel slaves. They could be bought, sold, separated from their families, beaten, raped, killed, kept for life, and passed down as inherited property. Every specific reference to foreign slaves in the Bible is to deny them rights and protections afforded to Hebrew slaves. The treatment of foreign slaves was every bit as bad, or worse, than slavery in the Antebellum south. It was not voluntary, and it was not of economic benefit to the slave.
@@cygnusustusThat is absolute nonsense....you clearly do not understand the Bible and as a sinner do not have the right to judge a holy, perfect, righteous God whose very grace you depend on for every breath you take.
@@SMOS99 it’s nonsense that foreign people were allowed to be Israelites slaves that they could inherit? Are you sure?
Leviticus 25:44-46 (CSB) 44 “Your male and female slaves are to be from the nations around you; you may purchase male and female slaves. 45 “You may also purchase them from the aliens residing with you, or from their families living among you -- those born in your land. These may become your property. 46 “You may leave them to your sons after you to inherit as property; you can make them slaves for life. But concerning your brothers, the Israelites, you must not rule over one another harshly.
I think you need to reread your Bible
@@SMOS99
"That is absolute nonsense"
Show me which claim was wrong, child.
No it said you can beat them.
Dear Ray, we love you too. One of the best evangelists on the planet.
I dont love him.
Romans 10:13, "All who call on the name of Jehovah will be saved."
Actually the Bible does allow slavery, and am a Christian saying this. Anybody with any knowledge of history and how the world ran back then would understand why slavery had to exist. Do you people not realize that currency in those times ran by non renewable resources like gold and silver? And how much weaker the world’s economy was?? 95 percent of regular civilians lived in poverty, heck if you didn’t have a family business or land you were not going to make it far in life. Education was key, and only the rich/nobles could afford that. Slavery helped fix the poverty issue as it was way better being a slave having your daily necessities then living in the streets having nothing.
Neverless slavery is a human thing for in the beginning it was not so-Matthew 19:8. For when God created the world he commanded humans to rule the earth, not each other
Well that’s not completely true. That’s like saying we are not supposed to eat meat because in the beginning it was not so. But we know that Christ ate fish. With that being said God did command Israelites and gave liberty to them to have chattel sl@ves. And also when he saves the Israelites and puts them back into the land, they are going to have servants again.
All of those things factor into why men could also take sl. av. wives as well, right?
@@ThrowAway-xy4ot being a servant to the right master isn’t a bad thing. Look how Satan turned out, he rebelled against God because he saw himself as a slave while ignoring the benefits and love that God had for him in heaven. Now he’s exercising his free will for evil just like how people in this corrupt world are doing.
And i can tell that it was better to be a slave in Israel than a pagan nation that world literally use you for abominable rituals. But my point of quoting Matthew 19:8 was to show that slavery (of this world) was never the will of God, but God allowed it. Just like how the Bible saids God Hates divorce but He allows it under certain grounds.
@@JESUS_IS_KING777_12 I mean God still allows divorce even in the New Testament but I get what you’re trying to get at. However, it doesn’t work in the cases of slavery because he still allows slavery and that the Israelites are going to have slaves in the future…
The specific scripture I’m talking about in the Old Testament talks about the Israelites being able to be harsh and treat their slaves with rigor Leviticus 25:44-46
The "slavery" condoned in the Bible was not the slavery of early America. The slavery of the Bible was indentured servitude. And all of those slaves were required to be released in their 7th year. How does exodus 21:16 which requires all of those involved in American type slavery to have been put to death and Biblical "slaves" being released in their 7th year line up with your comment?
Thank you for saying that Ray!😄 All this time I thought I was the only one who saw Sam Harris as the simple guy next door who's not very wise at all, but always had to put his two pennies in. 🙄
He parrots bad arguments for the masses. The voice of the d.a.
May God bless for this ministry,and all of you those who involved to keep souls for Jesus from the darkness.
I really Love the way you guys ministering to people, Jesus Giving you wisdom.
6:07 I half-expected him to add “Principles of Christian Growth” right after this.
Slavery is when you don't work for yourself but someone else, as seen in employment, mortgage, and taxes. Only the self employed and debt free are Biblically free and not slaves
Not entirely true
@@ThrowAway-xy4ot it's literally "someone else has the authority to tell you what to do with your time, and the power to punish you for disobedience"
@@cosmictreason2242 not my point… my point is that you are trying to act as a slavery is like a normal job. I’m saying indentured servitude is part of slavery but the other part of slavery is Leviticus 25:44-46 which is Chatel slavery
@@ThrowAway-xy4ot the Bible doesn't endorse chattel slavery. Slavery was voluntary, property and marriage rights were retained, they were paid, it was forbidden to force someone into it and it was forbidden to return a runaway slave. And even minor workers comp injuries resulted in massive compensation. Slaves also had equal protection under the law as free citizens. The only rights they did not have was how to dispose of their own labor
I'm sorry, but if you're going to say that if you have an employer then you're a "slave", and in the next breath talk about Biblical slavery then you're just wrong. Apples and Oranges. Stand in front of a foreign lifelong chattel slave in the Bible and tell him you know how he feels because you have a job too. See how he would react. That statement is an slap in the face to the millions of people throughout history that have suffered horribly under the yoke of slavery. Shame on you
If anyone gets paid to do work. They may be a slave to the dollar. You can't pay bills, your a slave.
This is a great point!
A ridiculous comparison.
Except I have a choice to continue to do work or quit.
These slaves have zero choice to quit and are forced to do work.
Oh and masters can physically abuse their property as long as they survive within 1-2 days. Exodus 21:20-21
The Dark-Light "Give em hell, Ray."
Ray, "no, im giving them Heaven..."
😂
The Lord through Livingwaters has helped me so much, lets get out there and plant seeds for the Lords harvest!!
I have a question. What's your advice for Young christian man That are Waiting for marriage
( I should say i'm done waiting for marriage, really)
I am twenty-two years old, and i've never had a girlfriend or been in a relationship. With a girl( I'm Autistic so it has hindered my life for a very long time, and it hindered me from going places to meet girls)
And I have always hated being a Virgin for a long time.And this has been going back-and-forth in my mind.For many year since I became a christian when I Was 15 years old. It Has drove me crazy over the years
I get so sick of being alone.
So sick of not being in a relationship. Even last night I just felt so empty. Inside and just wanted. To be in a relationship but I do have to say I probably wouldn't marry a christian girl or be in a relationship with one Because they're not marriage material The same thing goes with most modern women in the culture in the west Even among conservative girls I'd have more luck if I married a buddhist a hindu or muslim
Feminism has caused a lot of loneliness for single men. And feminism has nothing to do with women's nor men's rights.
I didn’t find my husband til I was 34. It was a long and lonely journey. But I don’t regret it! My husband and I wouldn’t have been ready for each other had we met sooner. I encourage you to continue putting yourself out there socially, continue improving yourself to be the kind of man that would attract the right woman, and above all, seek intimacy with God. The closer you get to God the easier everything becomes (took me a long time to figure that out). Be blessed brother ❤
if you have money you can get any woman you want. Focus on that first, having a good job with good money
22 is crazy young, which you will realise when you hit 30 or 40. For now though, realise that most people don't settle down until they are much older than you so you are not alone. Being a virgin isn't something to hate - unless you are satan (he really hates purity) - so embrace it and pursue God. God will show you the plans he has for you and that may eventually include a wife. If you go your own way to find any woman, prepare for suffering - if you settle for any woman, she will likely not love God and cause you much grief in future years.
@@MichaelWilliams-eq4kt for me 22 is not really young in my mind in my mind being a teen is young and I feel older then my age because how Different I am from my generation mostly
And the past few years have felt much longer for me and even if I Considered myself young I would still rather marry very young and not get married when I am older
And I wouldn't settle for any girl.
I'm an absolute moralist I have my standards Unlike most people in the West culture And even if I suffered a little bit , it would be nowhere near the amount of things would have to deal with if I married a Western girl, that's just fact, statistics prove that
It is a misconception that chatel slavery was a benefit to the southern economy. There is plenty of data that refutes this notion and actually emphasizes that it was holding the economy back due to its inefficiencies. Voluntary labor has proven to be far more beneficial and prosperous as we saw in industrialization in the North shortly after the war and through the 21st century. I would argue this is not only a natural consequence but a divine blessing from God for doing things the way God prescribes.
Children who pass away young are in the arms of God. He doesn't take them but he definitely receives them.
God does take them Deuteronomy 32:39 KJV
God does take them Deuteronomy 32:39 KJV
God does take them Deuteronomy 32:39 KJV
God does take them Deuteronomy 32:39 KJV
Netanyahu is the most courageous prime minister I've ever seen❤ From a South African standing with Israel 🇿🇦🇮🇱
Most slave owners and people who owned the slave ships in the slave trade were Jewish
What evidence do you have to support that claim?
That is the MOST ignorant response I've ever read! Provide definitive proof!
Almost none were Jewish in fact.
You got me when you said ريمون 😂😂😂
I'm iraqi, and may cousin's name is Remoon .
Regardless of the term of SLAVERY , we should first admit that we are slaves to the devil, but by God's grace, we've been saved. As long as people blame God, not Satan, for all the bad things ,they will be far from truth .
God bless you all living waters ❤
No , They would be very close to the truth ….
I use to have a couple friends like this. It’s almost impossible to find these types of friends, and even if I did, I have no idea how to get to that point again with anyone.
In Ephesians Paul uses slavery as a metaphor to describe the human condition, with the choice of being a slave to sin or to God. He believed that slavery is an inevitable part of human existence, and that becoming a slave means giving up status. Paul also identified himself and good Christians as slaves of God, and gave slaves control over their own salvation.
Some people think they were the only people whose ancestors were slaves.Slavery was in EVERY country on earth, way back in the past. And they used their OWN PEOPLE. There were no buildings, roads etc. etc. And they needed many to help.
That itself doesnt excuse gods actions
...and therefore....what?
@@elibonham4388 God's actions _never_ need to be excused. Yours, on the other hand, _do._ When your Judgment Day arrives, as it will for _all_ of us, it will not be you judging God; it will be Him judging you. You are currently hostile to your Creator, without whom you would not even exist. In love, I urge you to reconsider your foolish position. Watch any of Ray's videos and understand that you, like every single one of us, have violated God's laws and commandments, and any of us whose sins are not forgiven, will receive God's just punishment: eternity in Hell, the most terrible thing imaginable. And even though you are at present God's enemy, He still offers you not only forgiveness, but also eternal life where there is no sin, no disease, no suffering. It's totally up to you; God does not force you to love or accept Him. But ... He also allows you to suffer the consequences of your choice. Admit to Him that you have sinned against Him, ask Him to forgive you through His son, the Savior, Jesus Christ, and His death and resurrection. Be genuinely sorrowful for your sin, turn away from it, and turn to God. Read His love letter to you (the Bible) daily, and ask Him to lead and guide you in righteousness. The Bible is clear: IF you seek Him, you WILL find Him. And, if you become born again as Jesus says you must, you will receive the miracle of a new heart and new desires. Peace, love and blessings.
@@elibonham4388 Slavery under Israel is slavery under the Most High God, which is freedom for those willing to choose it and live it. The only other option is the slavery under the lesser gods that all the nations are born into, the ones under whom you have been a slave your entire life.
So why won't you give up your slavery to degeneracy and sensuality? Your gods hate you and they want you to go to the lake of fire. My God is the only one who wants to set you free but He won't until you choose it.
@@cygnusustus And therefore the world has always been full of evil, because all people are evil. That is why we need Jesus Christ.
God bless
God is never ok with slavery ever… slavery back in the days of BC was actually an act of caring for that person. They were taken care of. I PRAYED FOR THIS MAN TO COME RUNNING TO JESUS AND REPENT OF ALL HIS SINS❤
I love your comment!
Not correct. There were 2 categories of slavery. The first was for Israelites who fell on hard times, that's what you're referring to. The second category though was different. It was for non-Israelites who were captured in war (surrendered instead of being wiped out) or were foreigners already enslaved who were bought by an Israelite slaveholder. The second category was never freed and was passed down as property through the generations. Check out Leviticus 25:44+. There are also other passages that refer to this.
@@CP-dk8oiNo. it was all debt servitude. Read Deut15. God’s plan to rid poverty throughout the land..first Hebrews then Gentiles til no more poor exist. How? verse 6..loans. That’s why it’s all about redemption by Redeemer Christ. Possession in lev25 is NOT ownership possession but possession by debt contract. Gentiles were free after they paid their debt off in full. Hebrews had redemption by covenant..God married to the covenanted person absolved all debt, fin&sin. Gentiles had to pay off their debt themselves (fin&sin) no matter how long it took. UNLESS, they too bc covenanted, which is the entire point. Deut29.10-15.
The Bible not only allows for slavery, it actually requires it. So I like to cherry pick that part out.
The Bible not only allows for slavery, it actually requires it. So I like to cherry pick that part out.
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Compared to the surrounding cultures, the Bible was light years ahead of the “competition.” If the Bible were being written today, the information it contains would be very different…and people would still criticize it saying it was “backwards” or “incomplete.” Plus people would quarrel with the information or say “I disagree with God.” If a solution were given for Gaza people would complain about it, if no solution were given people would complain…there’s no winning with a certain percentage of the population.
Finally, it needs to be pointed out that the idea that slavery built a society or that colonialism helped a few at the expense of many has been debunked. Colonialism was very costly for the British Empire and Slavery only benefitted a few…when slaves harvested cotton, did the owner give away the cotton for free? No. He sold it and the money went into his pocket. Meanwhile the cotton was then sold to a processor at market value. In any case, it’s very difficult to have rational conversations about slavery or colonialism because logical discussion of it is assumed to be support of it. In earlier times people would have been open to logical discussion because it was assumed that logical discussion didn’t mean support.
"Compared to the surrounding cultures, the Bible was light years ahead of the “competition.” "
Nope.
The Mosaic laws were pretty similar to the laws of other nations. In some ways they were more harsh.
Learn some history, buddy.
@@cygnusustus Nope, you’re just parroting propaganda you heard on RUclips. Learn some real history pumpkin.
@@cygnusustus Lemme guess…you’re an atheist who wears a Star Wars T shirt has a Sam Harris fetish and supports “Palestine.”
"The first question we have to ask is 'what do you mean by slavery'?"
The Bible condones and promotes chattel slavery.
Chattel slavery is defined as "the enslaving and owning of human beings and their offspring as property, able to be bought, sold, and forced to work. Another definition is: "The condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control, especially in involuntary servitude."
Leviticus 25 explicitly describes and condones chattel slavery.
"44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour."
"Yeah, but they don't want to hear the answer."
Nope. It is you Christians who do not want to hear the answer!
Atheists will bring up (Leviticus 25:46) "You may pass them on as an inheritance to your sons after you, to receive as a possession; you can use them as permanent slaves. But in respect to your countryman, the sons of Israel, you shall not rule with severity over one another. This verse is used to argue that slavery in the O.T. was chattel slavery. But God's word does not contradict itself and reading all the other passages in Leviticus and Deuteronomy demonstrate that slaves were bondservants with many rights unlike the slave trade in the U.S.
But it's still chattel slavery lol by definition
Chattel slavery means that one person has total ownership of another
In Leviticus 25:44 - 46 the Israelites have complete ownership of another human being and get to pass them down as an inheritance.. and you can treat them harshly
[Lev 25:44 CSB] “Your male and female slaves are to be from the nations around you; you may purchase male and female slaves.
[Lev 25:45 CSB] “You may also purchase them from the aliens residing with you, or from their families living among you - those born in your land. These may become your property.
[Lev 25:46 CSB] “You may leave them to your sons after you to inherit as property; you can make them slaves for life. But concerning your brothers, the Israelites, you must not rule over one another harshly.
@@ThrowAway-xy4ot no, SLAVERY is ownership of another person without a covenant. That it can be voluntarily entered into for life doesn't make the nature of the treatment or rights any different. They could still buy their freedom with the wages they earned. They just weren't subject to the automatic release after 6 years
@@cosmictreason2242 read Leviticus 25:44-46
The slavery in the Bible was like roots and the Atlantic slave trade.
NO! EXODUS 21:16
@@mikeslater6246 kidnapping isn’t the same as slavery.🤦♂️😂
You do know that slaves were tricked into slavery by Jesus.
@@Chemosh418 I'm not going to play word games with you and you know nothing, repeat nothing, about Jesus. He did no such thing. You will answer to Him for the statements like that.
@@mikeslater6246Jesus said take my yoke upon you.
Not to mention Roman’s 6:18 says become slaves of righteousness. That’s the same as wearing shackles of righteousness if we are to take off the shackles of sin.
@@Chemosh418 the Bible forbids impressment. Roots was impressment. You said they're the same. You lied.
"What do you mean by slavery?"
"Yeah, but they don't want to hear the answer."
Here's the answer for you, buddy.
The Bible condones and promotes chattel slavery.
Chattel slavery is defined as "the enslaving and owning of human beings and their offspring as property, able to be bought, sold, and forced to wor
definition is: "The condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control, especially in involuntary servitude."
Leviticus 25 explicitly describes and condones chattel slavery.
"44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour."
Under Mosaic law, foreign slaves were chattel slaves. They could be bought, sold, separated from their families, beaten, raped, killed, kept for life, and passed down as inherited property. Every specific reference to foreign slaves in the Bible is to deny them rights and protections afforded to Hebrew slaves. The treatment of foreign slaves was every bit as bad, or worse, than slavery in the Antebellum south.
But the Hebrews could not couldn't enslave their own people. The slaves were the heathen. That would be wicked Canaanite nations they were instructed to destroy but failed to carry that out. These nations had sacrificed people and came to the fullness of sin. Wicked like the Mayan civilization. I think there were even some cities that wanted the Hebrews to take them in as slaves during times of war. You will need to reference raping slaves though. Because they committed fornication with the heathen Moabites at Peor and as a result brought a deadly curse on themselves. Fornication was a serious sin. Which Jesus further made strict by saying lust is equal to adultery.
And what conclusion do you draw from those facts?
that rape is equal to fornication which is equal to lust which is equal to adultery and not permitted by Jesus' standard
@Cheeseshredder
Where is that standard? It's certainly permitted, and promoted, by God's standard.
"We are bought with a price". Yes sir. The most inestimable price imaginable: the life of God Himself in the form of a human being. Priceless!
Praise God for this precious man. May God water the seeds that were planted on this day!
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Where in the Bible does it say slavery is wrong? And Where in the Bible does it say polygamy is wrong? I neither support slavery nor polygamy. I am saying that sarcastically to call out people who would always say "where in the Bible does it say... " without using their God given common sense or conscience..
One, I love that people correlate modern slavery of Black people with the slavery that happened to the Israelites because it just so happens that we are the biblical Israelites according to biblical prophecy. The ones that suffered the curses of Deuteronomy 28 and will be redeemed by the Messiah when he comes back to destroy these kingdoms.
Secondly, slavery is endorsed in the Bible because you can read about it in Leviticus 25 .
Leviticus 25:44-46 (KJV) 44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, [shall be] of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. 45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that [are] with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. 46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit [them for] a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.
This is Chatel slavery in the Bible that the Israelites can do to the other nations but not to their own brethren. Furthermore, prophecy says that the Israelites are going to have servants when they are put back in the land by God.
Isaiah 61:5 (NLT) Foreigners will be your servants. They will feed your flocks and plow your fields and tend your vineyards.
It’s very disingenuous when people try to act like slavery is not in the Bible.
Jesus is Lord, we who are the true Israel are slaves to Him and His gospel as emphasized by the Apostle Paul. This is freedom! There will be no man in bondage in the kingdom. The only way you will be recognized as a member of the body and His kingdom is through surrender to His will and obedience made possible by the blood that covers us and the Holy Spirit indwelling making us righteous. Your blood will never save you, it only condemns you already. Trust in the savior.
@@banemaler there will be no bondage in the kingdom? You sure about that? I believe I just quoted the scripture that says otherwise.
@@ThrowAway-xy4ot Yes I am sure! Hermeneutics 101! Put your trust in the savior who fulfilled the law, not in your own work. Not one of us can keep the law but He did and is our perfection.
@@banemaler
Isaiah 61:3-7 (KJV) 3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified. 4 And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations. 5 And strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, and the sons of the alien [shall be] your plowmen and your vinedressers. 6 But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: [men] shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves. 7 For your shame [ye shall have] double; and [for] confusion they shall rejoice in their portion: therefore in their land they shall possess the double: everlasting joy shall be unto them.
The nation of Israel receives the gospel and they get to get put back in their own land at which point will be built back up to the old status. And the other nations are going to be their servants feeding the flocks and doing fieldwork unlike the Israelites who are going to be priests and glorified …. I think you need to go back to hermeneutics 101
There is no slavery in the Bible
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That God approved it, and in certain occasions COMMANDS it.
One being owned and passed down as property is called slavery.
Yup..but it NEVER SAYS OWN! Possession in lev25 is not possession by ownership but possession by debt contract, hence redemption (buyback from debt) by Redeemer Christ..of the world, Gentiles too. Read Deut15. Loans to rid poverty..Hebrews first then Gentiles
@@9432515 what do you think property is . Why would a servant need an awl through his ear to show he is mine for life?
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Property being owned is one who wears the awl,🤦♂️
Anyone in debt is slave. Many choose to be a slave.
Slavery is defined as owning another person.
@@user-gb3hu9nk3q or a slave to sin
@@user-gb3hu9nk3qpossession in lev25.44-46 is not possession by ownership but possession by debt contract. V23 defines the word
Jesus is So Amazing Amen
Jesus would have had blacks on his porch if he were here today.
Skin color tells you nothing about the person, but the mouth and the heart does.
Just throwing this here to the podcast guy on slavery "20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property."
Happens to be the exact same level of legal protection the free man gets, in the same passage
@@cosmictreason2242Huh? You're saying that if a free man beat another free man and the beaten man lived for a few days and then died of the injury there was no consequence to the murderer? You're off base.
@@CP-dk8oi "died of the injury. " This is the thing you're reading into the text that isn't there. It is actually creating a statute of limitations, that you can't claim that a man died from a beating when he lived for several days after it. That is the same law for free and slave.
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One cannot serve both God and Mammon for he we love one and hate the other. 💵
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People who is like that old man showed in the clip who walking away soon after he finished his question is actually believing that God is exist, but he just reject Him because God is not act in the way that he thinks is the best way or the best moral or in anothee words that person like that think he knows all, have all the good standart..
A person wouldn't so mad or hate for something that he thought never existed to begin with..
Well said.
One other thought, no crop of any thing that was planted, was , until an animal, or a machine could do the labor, was done by man.
It all comes down to how terms are defined.
Owning another person is slavery.
@@user-gb3hu9nk3q If the person makes the choice, and has rights to even leave, you are comparing apples to oranges.
@@TickedOffPriestBuying and owning a person is slavery!
@@TickedOffPriest Except that foreigners could not leave. Which means it’s slavery.
God does take them ( God give life God take life ) Deuteronomy 32:39 KJV
God made man in from the dust of the Earth. There is a black dirt, White dirt, Brown dirt, Yellow and red dirt. We are a mixture of dirt. We are made out of one blood, according to Acts chapter 17
Something is just the inevitable result of infinite nothingness. ❤
Did the God of the bible ever send his people into slavery or promise slavery due to a lack of obedience?
Yes
Why didn’t he start with that?
@@unveiledface4626 What do you mean?
Are you saying there was no slave slavery by Christians before? Until, in America (the US) by the Brits brought them in, and Americans continued? The US was the first place for slave slavery by Christians?
It is clear that a person can be enslaved without shackles. It is the only explanation why people continue to harp about slavery in the land of plenty that God rooted people in. Who says God did not end slavery in this country. But the group who was enslaved continued to choose slavery over freedom and plenty.
Alot of people think pointed ears could be the mark of Cain . NOT ALL PEOPLE who have pointed ears are decendants of Cain .And Cains offspring definately survived the Flood Even Offspring of Cain can follow Gods commandments,love God ,believe in Jesus and can go to Heaven.
Noah's family were all descendants of Seth. So none of Cain's family could have survived the flood. They all drowned.
@@mikeslater6246How have you accounted for Noah's wife and his son's wives? What evidence do you have that they were not descendants of Cain?
@@CP-dk8oi sources identify Naamah as the wife of Noah and as one of his kinsmen. There doesn't appear to be any source identifying the kinsmanship of his son's wives so there is a possibility that they are descendants of Cain. But it is my belief that the final punishment for Cain was the total annihilation of his family line which would have been accomplished at the flood. But admittedly that is a subjective opinion.
Alot of Bible scholars believe around the world ,some kenites or offspring of saten survived ,and some believe that God said take tw0 of every flesh,,meant take a fertile couple from every race, the races where created on the 6th day .all the races.this means Asian Caucasian ,the Black race and so on.And they were on the Ark. ADAM AND EVE were created on the8th day they are where Cain and Abel, Seth etc were born .Abel Father was Adam .Cain Father was Saten
@mikeslater6246 It does not say that all drowned,as we have different races today Asian Black's Whites etc HOW did they survive the flood for they are certainly here today and the wicked Kenites are here causing all kinds of troubles for mankind ,especially Christians
Ever learning but unable to come to the true knowledge of the Lord Jesus the only Son of God.
You can tell when someone says my people ,they are truly lost..I used to think like that for 42 years.until I was shown truth..WE ARE ALL FROM ADAM ,NOAH ..THERE IS NO RACE..only man.period ..people don't want the truth only drama and to blame...
That's true and not true. God made man from Adam and Noah however he divided them into different nations and gave those different nations different inheritance... furthermore there are certain judgments for certain Nations...
You guys have very meaningful conversations. But please cut back on the foolish talk. I unsubscribed from the radio talks because the first 10 minutes were usually nonsense. Thank you!
Ray you are a beautiful man you have a magical way of communicating the fear of hell and bringing the Cure of Heaven in Christ Jesus to everyone!! Well done son!
Why is people always saying where is Jesus ? , Jesus died centuries ago on a cross to redeem us by the curses of the Law , but some of us still being cursed by the law Deuteronomy 28:61 KJV or unjust curses after receiving Jesus trying to live right and we still end up like Job in the Bible , God does take them Deuteronomy 32:39 KJV
In exodus 21 God tells Moses how to treat bondservant situations. Economic, debt, etc. Since slavery has been practiced by all people groups since the beginning, God gave some advice.
Were the 10 commandments just advice too?
@@CP-dk8oi that's in Exodus 20
He could have just told them not to own slaves? LMAO
@@user-gb3hu9nk3q People always disobey God, even the Jewish people. There's borrower mortgage slavery, job boss paycheck slavery, debt repay slavery, slavery to end starvation. 4 types listed in Exodus 21.
In modern times there's good and bad slavery in the world. Forced kidnapped workers on shrimp boats for months. Kidnapped women & kids 4 sex or factories. High interest lenders. All the perps will face God on judgment day.
So why didn’t God write an 11th commandment called “Thou shall not own people as property.” Since slavery is immoral.
4 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.