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Here's one detail you got wrong about Murkadamia Nut. It doesn't act like Endurian, since Endurian attacks a zombie that is within its range and Murkadamia reflects damage when a zombie attacks it.
The only saving grace of sea-shroom coming to pvz 2 is that it can finally know the sea... And stay there forever after because water is literally only a gimmick in BWB
Meteor flower is not that bad I think the two main problems with it are that it doesn't work alone, it needs to be accompanied by more meteor flowers, but let me tell you that a full line of meteor flowers can annihilate almost any zombie. This brings me to the second problem, the high cost of the plant makes this pretty hard to achieve.
He’s right! This changes everything! double power lily and meteor flower can pretty much shut down the main gimmick of the world…and to top it off with perfume shroom…
4:38 the funny thing is that he technically has more health in pvz2 than in pvz1, 600 in 2 compared to the 400 in 1. It's just that zombies here for some reason, needs three bites to take effect,which makes it seem like garlic's health has been nerfed.
I think it's funny that 2 plants mentioned in this video, have a great synergy together. Garlic and Aloe are amazing together. As long as the level doesn't have insta-kill zombies, Aloe allows you to use Garlic without having constant upkeep.
While not on the list, the reason Levitater was "the worst" was where and when he was introduced. He was introduced as an ARENA plant. You knowm ARENA, where KILLING ZOMBIES FAST IS THE WHOLE POINT and Stallers are terrible? It's like if the first time you used a fork was to eat soup.
@@Skyrider797 he wasn't good at all, probably a bottom 3 character in the game, he literally worked against straight shooters and could even cause zombies to bypass lawnmowers
I will say, threepeater is pretty useful since it will shoot in the row its planted in and its two adjacent lanesif it sees a single valid target in at least one of them, which helps to shoot more peas than 'normal' (if that makes sense) versus if u had like 3 individual peashooters in those three lanes, which ofc only shoot if they see a valid target in that one single row. This is what can make it better than all the other appease-mint plants with having faster consistent spammable row coverage, in the right scenerio anyways (e.g. zomboss tournaments with the dark dragon - If you just use the standard appease-mint setup to stunlock zombot, then it will stay in rows 3 and 4, so planting threepeater in row 2 will let it always let it fire over and over since the zombot is a valid target in row 3, allowing you to continously spam peas in rows 1, 2, and 3)
Yep, and it’s also probably the best world plant to pair up pea vine with other than torchwood for lower level plant setups. I didn’t include this in my original comment, but its PF effect is pretty good at very close range for a ton of burst dmg, since the damage of each pea isn’t lowered compared to the other pea plants.
@@HierXuyea, I used pea vine with threepeater, and i can say that threepeater + Pea vine is so good to the point where only 1 column of them can literally solo almost any level with just using (a sun producer of choice,) the threepeater, and the pea vine
I'd have to disagree with aloe being the worst reinforcement. You can synergize it with chard guard to make a near impenetrable wall that zombies cant pass, allowing for truly infinite stalling. I would say peanut as it's just a more expensive peashooter that has half the fire rate when eaten and is weaker than a wall nut.
@RandomFlareonOnTikTok No it doesn't, unfortunately. The ammunition reloading only works on Chard Guard and Holly Barrier. But it is also useful in tandem with Endurian and Kiwibeast, and especially primal wall nut as at higher levels, a gargantuar will smash it indefinitely, and if both are at higher levels, the two can stall multiple gargantuars forever, even in modes like penny's pursuit where the gargantuars are higher level
gonna have to defend the murkadamia nut its not bad as its not like enduren as it does refection damage meaning is a zombie does 100 damage it takes 100 damage in return it has regen powers so as long as its barrier isn't over powered it can do some serious damage if your looking for the worst shadow mint family nocturnre is your choice here as it doesn't fit the 2 roles its got as yes it can power your shadow mint family plants... for about 8 seconds it does give them a damage boost for 8 seconds... wait a minute its just a weak conseal-mint but worst and its toxic gas it has barely slows down zombies and doesn't do massive damage and tbf i don't think anyone remembers notcturnre
@@sabschatz *ahem* Powered Murkadamia Nut damages zombies at their eating speed. Basically, Zombies like Newspaper will instantly kill themselves and Murk won’t have lost much health.
Not sure if I've just been coddled by Reflourished for too long but Tangle Kelp is VERY strong, at least in that mod. Fast recharge, cheap cost, great plant food, chunks Gargantuars. Shame that it's restricted to BWB.
To be honest when reached you fila mint I knew you weren't going to put lightning reed(despite how much you haye him) but I thought you were going to put Bzzz button instead of electric current
@@GNVS300 the fila mint plants are shit bc in penny’s pursuit electricity wont do enough dmg to 3 pepper bosses yet 3pea is one of the metas for those boss stages
I disagree, I think bzzz button is way worse because it’s just like electrici tea but when it’s eaten, it doesn’t one shot them, it only slows and damages them and sometimes, it can’t even deal with a basic. Don’t get me wrong tho, electrici tea is still bad but at least better than bzzz button
Electricity tea does 4 dammage a zombie has 100 hp a pea shooters pea does 20 at lv one you have to zap one zombie 25 times to kill it 25 fucking times to kill one zombie a basic zombie @@weiduan2843
In defense of sea flora and tangled kelp , we know that one of the next updates ( probably the one where guard shroom will come in as well as the rain cloak zombie ) will include the puddles mechanic , essentially, plants you can only plant in water or get a buff when planted jn water will be playable in other words.
I personally LOVED Lightning Reed, knowing you have 3 whole rows (All middle tiles) dedicated to them as they deal a lot of damage to all zombies that bundle up (Especially when powered by their mint where it goes from low 10s to high 70s & beyond from just the power up alone)
Same! I use lightning reed all the time except in two particular worlds (frostbite caves when chilling winds freeze them repeatedly and jurassic marsh when dinosaurs spam the lawn before I can spam them).
4:56 I was shocked (no, not really), why do so much people dislike threepeater ?? He is a pretty good plant that takes little space and can cover 3 lanes at once, he has only 2 weakness : shovel and jester zombies. To be honest, has been my go to plant for years, i do most levels with it because of his fire power and the many plants that buffs him way too much (TorchWood, Peavine, Appease-mint) but even without them it already shreds anything down like it is butter ... i really don't get why it is so much disliked.
And for Boingsetta, if you plant one it will bounce back ALL zombies in this lane every few seconds, it's a really efficient stalling plant, even more if paired with winter-melon; kernel pult; prehistoric pea; sapfling or about any good stalling plant. I am still wondering why almost half of the plant you chose as worst one of their class i'd rank A or S tier... I guess it's just different opinions and acquaintances to plants.
Honorable mention for a usecase of springbean: In jourassic marsh, the pterodactyl which carries zombies to the back of your lane, casing them to attack your plants from the back, has a pretty entertaining counter using springbean. By planting a row of springbeans on your back lane, and one on the space that springbean flings zombies to, you can basically fling those zombies over your entire defense.
While it's nothing much in adventure mode, threepeater + torchwood + tile turnip is one of the cheapest strat you can use to demolish arena. The fact that you put it on the list instead of split pea is wild.
My main team that sweeps stages is sun shroom, 2 gold blooms, meteor, snow pea, wallnut (2 rows of sun shroom and 2 rows of meteors, snow pea to stall for meteor’s cooldown, gold bloom for early boost and wall nut to defend)
For something slightly more different from my usual comments, here’s the mint families I’d put certain plants who I don’t think fit in the ones they’re already in (including Reflourished plants because I play that mod) Hurrikale: Winter-mint Perfume-shroom: Enchant-mint Aloe: Enchant-mint Imp Pear: Enchant-mint Torchwood: Pepper-mint (RFL plants now) Cattail: Fila-mint Fanilla: Contain-mint Lily of Alchemy: Enchant-mint (Ail-mint also works) Maypop Mechanic: Appease-mint Lotus Root: Spear-mint (there’s no water mint family so this is the next best alternative I could come up with) Void Orchid: Enchant-mint Flameweed: Pepper-mint
Strawburst,Meteor Flower ect... *Secret or Abilities not mentioned in the video* Strawburst passive is death explosion *based on 1,2 and 3 stages* Meteor Flower passive is scare off the dinosaurs SeaFlora ability and passive: can fire 3 bubbles both in normal attack and pf attack when planted in the water. Passive:can distinguish fire Sun Bean secret passive:when the king arrives with normal zombie,when eaten the zombies *CANNOT BE TRANSFORMED INTO A KNIGHT* MayBee passive:the bees can combo with fila plants *but not all fila plants can combo with MayBee* Boingsetta secret passive:CAN KNOCKBACK STILTWALKER *she is the only plant CAN KNOCKBACK a stiltwalker zombie* and finally Tangle Kelp passive when a upgraded:has 3 lives when at the max level,has 2 lives when at the mid level and 1 live when at the start level. I hope it helps😊.
I did mention MayBee's synergy with electricity, but most of the others I thought weren't relevant enough to mention, i.e. Meteor Flower's dino-scaring power feels meaningless since you likely will have completed Jurassic Marsh by the time you get the plant. Fair play on Tangle Kelp though, I definitely should have mentioned its abilities with levelling considering I gave Hot Potato a pass for melting Octopi at higher levels.
Basically all of these abilties are niche and dont really matter in the main game (also seaflora's multi-lane attack isnt a "secret ability" its the only reason she even exists in the game)
I hate nocturine so much but i agree murkadamian nut sucks. The other contender for me is the one that has three petals, so weak compared to dragonfruit and dusklobber (shadow shroom and the one that works like tangle kelp on land are good in their own way). Also don’t really see a point with the vine due to no murkadamian synergy. (Forgot to add the peashooter but I love it too since it a slower like stallia)
I think that Nocturne is the worst Containmint plant. Its temporary shadow tiles are almost useless as they last for too little, and it costs more than a moonflower, and it’s a premium plant. There is no reason to use Nocturne when Gloom Vine and especially Moonflower exist.
To be fair to Garlic, he can synergize well with Electric Currant. You might think: "Well why can't I just use a wall plant to protect my Electric Currants?" Well Garlic diverts them into Electric Currant's damage range. Assuming you're planting your Electric Currants on the top and bottom rows, which, well why wouldn't you, Garlic can only send zombies where you want them to go. Yes, Garlic doesn't have a lot of health, but I've never had issues with replanting Garlics in front of my Electric Currants except in max difficulty Penny's Pursuits levels, and let's be honest, MOST formerly viable strategies get completely demolished there.
I'd argue that the worst enlightenmint plant is gold leaf because it's a bit too expensive and its recharge is too long for one tile that makes one sun every 20 or so seconds
My list pepper mint: It's hot potato. How Do people keep defending this plant? Spear mint: I agree that it's SeaFlora Contain Mint: I agree that it is spring bean Ail mint: I agree it's garlic Appease mint: It's a toss up between pea vine mega Gatling pea or threePeater. I agree with everything else on this list. Cool list :]
@@yes3410 I realised that it was a reinforcemint plant, I just forgot to change it. Also have you seen Flag zombie's "Underrated Plants" Video? I haven't used tumbleweed before so I can't say anything about tumbleweed.
You know, I've noticed something interesting recently, in that there's a surprisingly high number of aquatic plants being added (seaflora and electric peel, plus a few others, I believe?) Plus the fact that sea-shroom and aqua vine were leaked... and that one of the most popular pvz2 mods added a water-themed mint... I'm just saying, it would be neat to get a new mint family, that's all
Aloe has a synergy with the Chard Guard if you need to stall the first/last zombie as it's cheaper to plant Aloe behind than constantly refreshing Chard Guard
In the pepper family hot potato is the worst like the only thing you can use him for is remove an ice block when you can literally just use pyre vine to remove heat up the plant, even boungsetta a literal ice plant is more useful to remove the ice block on plant. meteor flower should go to higher place
Not kidding, I never realised until now that Winter-Mint is the only one that just has a simple name instead of being either a pun on something with the suffix 'ment' or an actual thing ending with 'mint'
I disagree with threepeater, its great in limited plant levels and using its plant food with Torchwood can straight up clear the screen. Peanut, meanwhile, is a plant that just straight up does not work. It is a wall plant that wants to be placed in the back, where at that point it is a more expensive, slower peashooter. If you pkace it in the front to use its (fairly low) health, you end up getting punished since it loses half its dps at half health.
I would like to ass to scaredy shroom: I found this out not too long ago, but you can use blower with scaredy shroom to kill zombies as long as you place a blower, and give the scaredy shroom a plant food. Combine the fact that it shares this effect with every scaredy shroom around him makes it better, it’s still pretty useless
Can't belive that that piece of nothingness called hot potato is higher on his list of forst pepper mint plant, than a meteor flower, kinda nuts for me
I feel like intensive carrot is 10x worse than maybee, intensive carrot costs 100 to revive a plant that is only worth it if the plant was above 100 sun cost, while maybee is a stronger board wide range attacker that can wipe out multiple zombies at a time. I tested maybee and it was able to hold off 2 bucket heads while beeing chewed. So I just think intensive carrot should be there.
I've had this question for a bit but I dont know who else to ask; how do you feel about Daisy chain? It doesn't do much damage sure but it stuns the whole lane, and continually too, pairing especially well with primal potato as it can be placed and explode before the stun wears off.
it would be cool if they made it so Murkademai's jelly went above any vine on top of her, it would make a really good synergy with the shadow and fire vines
Vamporcini Is by far the worst Ail-mint plant In PVZ 2 I would say he is ranked below Scary shroom because his ability to Drain up Zombies Health doesn't kill a Browncoat and is Essentially a weaker wallnut that costs 50 more sun. There are better Wall plants in the game Like Tall nut, Infi-nut and Primal Wallnut
Actually, for Reinforce-Mint, I would say Blockolli was worse than Aloe. Sure, Aloe can't deal damage, but it's useful for healing your wall plants for an okay cost, giving you the ability to place the wall Plant you were about to use for First-Aid in another lane, since I think it's a pretty good healer. But Blockolli, while it's good since it can stun zombies and slightly damage them, if used with Reinforce-Mint, it's Plant Food becomes pretty much useless since Reinforce-Mint bounces the zombies back and out of Blockolli's range of Plant Food attack, maybe hitting with the stun at the end. Either way, both have their uses for certain things.
The full list of the worst plants from every Power Mint Family (SPOILERS): Fila-mint: Electric Currant Pepper-mint: Meteor Flower Winter-mint: Boingsetta Enlighten-mint: Sun Bean Reinforce-mint: Aloe Bombard-mint: Strawburst Ail-mint: Garlic Enchant-mint: MayBee Contain-mint: Spring Bean Enforce-mint: Tangle Kelp Arma-mint: BoomBerry Conceal-mint: Murkadamia Nut Spear-mint: SeaFlora Appease-mint: Threepeater
I hate the fact that maybee only shoots if a zombie is close So now you gotta have a slow expensive plant in the front hooray And that the boost only works with 2 electric plants
Only 2 arguments 1 - Pea pod instead of threepeater 2- Phat beet instead of tangle kelp Peapod takes too long to set up despite being less efficient. Phat beat is useless in its own world never truly has a place where there aren’t better options vs tangle kelp which can in fact kill fishermen
I think murk is fine since sun producers in general should be more in the front. I appreciate them making a plant that forces this optimal playstyle as it is strangely unpopular for casuals
Except Murk is likely to be unlocked after Adventure so players should be taught to put producers ahead of main attackers before then. Reflourished giving Primal Sunflower a health buff was a great way to do it.
@@GNVS300 well duh, but in mods, I think he's more valuable. Since unlike vanilla, there'll still be enough adventure levels to try murk out and learn to use him correctly.
@@GNVS300 that too, I agree on. Primal Flower's rework definitely helps teach players to front flowers. while sun sunshroom is high risk high reward due to lower hp. and moonflower is pretty much double of that risk.
I’m just saying, three pea and torch wood combo with boosted on both of them and in arena, THEY BOTH CAN GIVE A LOT OF POINTS unless you don’t know how to place the setup
HELP because this randomly appeared on my fyp and I haven't been into pvz for 3 years now I remember hating murkadamia nut sm because it wasn't even good to use and you're telling me it never got a SINGLE buff?
Nope, it's never been touched. To be fair until the last three or so years plant balance changes were relatively rare, but for me Murkadamia would have to be completely reworked in order to be viable, because like I said, it just doesn't work with the grid placement
There is an argument to be made for buzz button or that one plant that is an electric phat beat that doesn’t do any damage for fila-mint. Also lightning reed is super good, most times in arena when it’s viable, it does better than my electric pea which is a level higher.
All they need to do to fix Aloe is to scrap the international version and replace it with the Chinese version if you’ve played the Chinese version or watched Flag Zombie’s video about over analyzing every Chinese plant series you’ll know how good it is in that version.
It may be a worse Explode-o-Nut but it’s not that bad. Maybe I’m biased because it was one of the plants I used the most in the short time I played AltVerz, idk
Hot potato is the worst pepper-mint family plant, it does nothing but thaw 1 plant. And takes a good time to recharge. Meteor flower is powerful in good numbers, while expensive, he makes it up in raw, unfiltered, Calamitous Power.
I'm so glad I've came back to PvZ2 after years, but playing the Reflourished mod 👌 Honestly, who in their right mind still chooses the new broken version of PvZ2 with all the garbage over PvZ2 Reflourished...
Garlic is a cool combo with the electric plant that i don;t remember the name of but they make a line of dmg when u but em in one far away or in front of each others. They can basicaly make a path of pain for the undead - its one of the best combo's in the game as rated by many PlanTubers
I didn't mean RIGHT at the back, more so the 2nd or 3rd columns from the left, which is the ideal place to plant Moonflowers to supplement Shadow Peas and Dusk Lobbers
For fila mint:i would say electrici tea bc not only is the plant literally useless unless killed its still the worst bc electric currant atleast has some good use when paired together and eletrici tea needs to be killed on the other hand For reinforcement:i would say peanut bc its basically a worse pea shooter and walnut together like atleast make it useful. Aloe is pretty good w holly barier and chard guard and is useful w other plants while peanut isnt
Meteor flower, threepeater, maybee:😭😭 Hot potato, pepper pult, split pea, intensive carrot:😎😎 4:54 threepeater got the worst make me in pain 7:18 poor aloe
Three peater shouldn't be as bad as you said. They can shoot in 3 rows and if you combine fully upgrade three peater and tile turnip it would be overpowered against a large amount of zombies on screen
Aloe disrespect is crazy bro, lemme just name 1 reason for every wall plant i can think of Chard gaurd: aloe heals the leaves giving it more uses Wallnut(primal, tallnut,and tomb wrangler too): it can just indefinitely stall a zombie assuming it doesnt have a alternative ability Endurian(ans i guess makudamia nut?): its a infinite attacker that also walls Infin-nut: it just needs health bro Thats all i got lol
Hey electric currants makes the most op strategy in pvz2 any malee plant in the behind Spikerock on the front of the malee plant and electric current the top most and bottom and place a kiwi beast at the top and bottom in front of the electric current use plant food on both electric current and use the extra for gargantuans
I would pick Hot Potato for Pepper-Mint, Sweet Potato for Reinforce-Mint, Chomper for Enforce-Mint, Toadstool for Enlighten-Mint, Witch Hazel for Enchant-Mint and Vamporcini for Ail-Mint
Idk if you will actually take this suggestion but i think it would be cool if you ranked each plant family based on basically everything how useful it is during arena how good the plants are etc
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Here's one detail you got wrong about Murkadamia Nut. It doesn't act like Endurian, since Endurian attacks a zombie that is within its range and Murkadamia reflects damage when a zombie attacks it.
All im saying about meteor flower is that there are very few that can scare annoying dinoursour away
How dare you say threepeater is the worst pea plant
This list will 100% change when sea-shroom comes into the game
Lol, probably. Still waiting on it...
@@GNVS300 I heard it’s official. they should bring back umbrella leaf too. they would be good to counter octozombies
As if scaredy wasn't tragic enough...
The only saving grace of sea-shroom coming to pvz 2 is that it can finally know the sea... And stay there forever after because water is literally only a gimmick in BWB
you were saying
All im saying about meteor flower is that there are very few non instakill plants that can 2 shot a zombie, even at lower levels (FIRST)
Ice shroom is cheaper and better though
@@johnbahmad7978ice shroom is just pokra on steroids
@@johnbahmad7978Ice bloom is better than both
before we go any further can we all agree that pokra is the best plant in the game
@@enderguardian7443 Now that ice shroom it is IMO a bit stronger than pokra
Meteor flower is not that bad
I think the two main problems with it are that it doesn't work alone, it needs to be accompanied by more meteor flowers, but let me tell you that a full line of meteor flowers can annihilate almost any zombie. This brings me to the second problem, the high cost of the plant makes this pretty hard to achieve.
pepper pult is much much worse
@@not_a_cheter The main issue is the slow recharge.
@@IWishYouTheBest yeah the slow recharge kills pepper pult entirely
Meteor flower DOES have another use other than striking meteors.
He can scare off dinosaurs in Jurassic marsh
He’s right! This changes everything! double power lily and meteor flower can pretty much shut down the main gimmick of the world…and to top it off with perfume shroom…
I mean, that’s how the dinosaurs went extinct
That’s a fun little Easter egg
But it's still too expensive to use effectively in that era, anyway. It should cost 75 sun to 125 sun, instead.
wait i thought that was a clickbait thumbnail i didnt know that it was real unless im just gullible asf
4:38 the funny thing is that he technically has more health in pvz2 than in pvz1, 600 in 2 compared to the 400 in 1. It's just that zombies here for some reason, needs three bites to take effect,which makes it seem like garlic's health has been nerfed.
Technically, if you put Garlic on a minecart and move him quickly, the zombies can be diverted in one bite.
I think it's funny that 2 plants mentioned in this video, have a great synergy together. Garlic and Aloe are amazing together. As long as the level doesn't have insta-kill zombies, Aloe allows you to use Garlic without having constant upkeep.
While not on the list, the reason Levitater was "the worst" was where and when he was introduced. He was introduced as an ARENA plant. You knowm ARENA, where KILLING ZOMBIES FAST IS THE WHOLE POINT and Stallers are terrible? It's like if the first time you used a fork was to eat soup.
He was still rubbish in Adventure too, but yeah definitely a bad mode to introduce him in.
@@GNVS300No he was an amazing stalling plant
@@GNVS300levitater doesn’t suck u suck
@@Skyrider797 he wasn't good at all, probably a bottom 3 character in the game, he literally worked against straight shooters and could even cause zombies to bypass lawnmowers
@@GNVS300 "torchwood sucks because he doesn't ignite melons"
I will say, threepeater is pretty useful since it will shoot in the row its planted in and its two adjacent lanesif it sees a single valid target in at least one of them, which helps to shoot more peas than 'normal' (if that makes sense) versus if u had like 3 individual peashooters in those three lanes, which ofc only shoot if they see a valid target in that one single row. This is what can make it better than all the other appease-mint plants with having faster consistent spammable row coverage, in the right scenerio anyways (e.g. zomboss tournaments with the dark dragon - If you just use the standard appease-mint setup to stunlock zombot, then it will stay in rows 3 and 4, so planting threepeater in row 2 will let it always let it fire over and over since the zombot is a valid target in row 3, allowing you to continously spam peas in rows 1, 2, and 3)
It was also the meta alongside Torchwood and Pea Vine whenever the B&B doesn't include Appease-mint immunity.
Yep, and it’s also probably the best world plant to pair up pea vine with other than torchwood for lower level plant setups.
I didn’t include this in my original comment, but its PF effect is pretty good at very close range for a ton of burst dmg, since the damage of each pea isn’t lowered compared to the other pea plants.
@@HierXuyea, I used pea vine with threepeater, and i can say that threepeater + Pea vine is so good to the point where only 1 column of them can literally solo almost any level with just using (a sun producer of choice,) the threepeater, and the pea vine
Yeah, I was honestly surprised he didn’t pick peapod. It’s significantly less cost efficient.
@@ScubaShark8857 peapod is just bad. Im not spending 525 sun just for a full peapod when i can just plant a peashooter.
I'd have to disagree with aloe being the worst reinforcement. You can synergize it with chard guard to make a near impenetrable wall that zombies cant pass, allowing for truly infinite stalling. I would say peanut as it's just a more expensive peashooter that has half the fire rate when eaten and is weaker than a wall nut.
wait does aloe regen night shades leaves?
@RandomFlareonOnTikTok No it doesn't, unfortunately. The ammunition reloading only works on Chard Guard and Holly Barrier.
But it is also useful in tandem with Endurian and Kiwibeast, and especially primal wall nut as at higher levels, a gargantuar will smash it indefinitely, and if both are at higher levels, the two can stall multiple gargantuars forever, even in modes like penny's pursuit where the gargantuars are higher level
Also kinda funny how aloe + kiwibeast can solo most of Jurassic Marsh
Aloe is my boy plant
I honestly think Peanut can be used against low-level Zomboss in Penny's Pursuit. He and Reinforce-Mint can just obliterate him.
putting threepeater there over split pea is insane
Ikr i think threepeater is way better
Split pea is SUPER one-use for a specific world.
@@thesupervideogamenerdmore3171 bro that thing is useless as hell
@@Mobilenoob-ps8em Yes, but for beginners, it is kinda useful. For like 2 levels.
@@thesupervideogamenerdmore3171 so then after those 2 levels the thing is fucking useless
Did you know that meteor flowers plant food scares dinos?
It's situational
nvm it’s the best now, hate them Dino’s.
I know his pf abilitie and That makes sense
gonna have to defend the murkadamia nut its not bad as its not like enduren as it does refection damage meaning is a zombie does 100 damage it takes 100 damage in return it has regen powers so as long as its barrier isn't over powered it can do some serious damage if your looking for the worst shadow mint family nocturnre is your choice here as it doesn't fit the 2 roles its got as yes it can power your shadow mint family plants... for about 8 seconds it does give them a damage boost for 8 seconds... wait a minute its just a weak conseal-mint but worst and its toxic gas it has barely slows down zombies and doesn't do massive damage and tbf i don't think anyone remembers notcturnre
I ain't reading all that, womp womp
I literally had to look up what it was
@@sabschatzaw, was there no family guy or subway surfer clips below this paragraph? 😊
@@MyDadJustLeftMeXD I'm not addicted to brainrot, I just ain't reading all that
@@sabschatz
*ahem*
Powered Murkadamia Nut damages zombies at their eating speed.
Basically, Zombies like Newspaper will instantly kill themselves and Murk won’t have lost much health.
Not sure if I've just been coddled by Reflourished for too long but Tangle Kelp is VERY strong, at least in that mod. Fast recharge, cheap cost, great plant food, chunks Gargantuars. Shame that it's restricted to BWB.
Reflourished made it more expensive but a lot spammable ye
In vanilla it's fine but not as good as Reflourished's
0:43 Off topic but I recognize this photo of the Contain Mint plants. I even have it in my gallery for some reason. lmao
It's by Islam-machina-arts on DeviantArt for anyone curious
@@GNVS300 Yep. I know that user. His PVZ art is actually pretty good
3:07 spring bean is bad but worse than tomb tangler is wild
Tomb tangler can instakill a zombie every 4 seconds now i think, most arenas have graves, spring bean is outclassed by any other knockback plant
spring bean dun do nothing brk
Ikr tomb tangler useless
at least it's an amazing plant to use in pirate seas
At least tomb tangler has uses outside of pirate seas
To be honest when reached you fila mint I knew you weren't going to put lightning reed(despite how much you haye him) but I thought you were going to put Bzzz button instead of electric current
I haven't used Bzzz Button a ton but he seems pretty solid. Although the Fila-Mint family as a whole has some stinkers
@@GNVS300honestly i was expecting electricitea for the spot
@@GNVS300 the fila mint plants are shit bc in penny’s pursuit electricity wont do enough dmg to 3 pepper bosses yet 3pea is one of the metas for those boss stages
the main use for meteor flower is to scare of dinos with its plant food and for aloe you reset the "charge" for gimicky plants like chardguard
Now the worst fila-mint plant has to be electrici-tea, he does little damage, costs 125 sun, and is only really useful when eaten
I agree electric i tea's zap damage is only good for taking out the chickens unlike the lightning reed that can deal with many zombies.
I disagree, I think bzzz button is way worse because it’s just like electrici tea but when it’s eaten, it doesn’t one shot them, it only slows and damages them and sometimes, it can’t even deal with a basic. Don’t get me wrong tho, electrici tea is still bad but at least better than bzzz button
@weiduan, you actually make a pretty good point
Electricity tea does 4 dammage a zombie has 100 hp a pea shooters pea does 20 at lv one you have to zap one zombie 25 times to kill it 25 fucking times to kill one zombie a basic zombie @@weiduan2843
Electricitea is bad, but in no way is it worse than E current
In defense of sea flora and tangled kelp , we know that one of the next updates ( probably the one where guard shroom will come in as well as the rain cloak zombie ) will include the puddles mechanic , essentially, plants you can only plant in water or get a buff when planted jn water will be playable in other words.
The puddles mechanic? Is that similar to PVZ3? If so, that might explain why Lily Pad and Tangle Kelp are no longer world locked
At like level 6 or 7, lightning Reed is very strong and when spammed they kill quickly
Hmm.
Guys pls I didn't understand guard shroom plant ability what does this plant do ?
The puddles look terrible tho, they dont even look like water
I personally LOVED Lightning Reed, knowing you have 3 whole rows (All middle tiles) dedicated to them as they deal a lot of damage to all zombies that bundle up (Especially when powered by their mint where it goes from low 10s to high 70s & beyond from just the power up alone)
Same! I use lightning reed all the time except in two particular worlds (frostbite caves when chilling winds freeze them repeatedly and jurassic marsh when dinosaurs spam the lawn before I can spam them).
I almost had a heart attack when GNVS started playing Wonderwall
My list
Peppermint: Pepper Pult
Spearmint: Seaflora
Containmint: Spring Bean
Ailmint: Garlic or Vamporcini
Appeasemint: Bowling Bulb
Bombardmint: Strawburst
Concealmint: Nightshade
Armamint: Cabbage Pult
Reinforcemint: Peanut
Filamint: Electric Current
Enlightenmint: Sun bean
Enchantmint: Intensive Carrot
Wintermint: Boingsetta
Enforcemint: Phat Beet
I found Meteor Flower useful to scare dinosaurs in Jurrasic Marsh with Plant Food.
however one thing that meteor flower can do is its plantfood can scare off dinosaurs
4:56 I was shocked (no, not really), why do so much people dislike threepeater ?? He is a pretty good plant that takes little space and can cover 3 lanes at once, he has only 2 weakness : shovel and jester zombies. To be honest, has been my go to plant for years, i do most levels with it because of his fire power and the many plants that buffs him way too much (TorchWood, Peavine, Appease-mint) but even without them it already shreds anything down like it is butter ... i really don't get why it is so much disliked.
AloeVera + Charriguard
Lightning reed
Are in my opinions also top tier plants, with the threepeater... (Only my opinion tho)
And for Boingsetta, if you plant one it will bounce back ALL zombies in this lane every few seconds, it's a really efficient stalling plant, even more if paired with winter-melon; kernel pult; prehistoric pea; sapfling or about any good stalling plant.
I am still wondering why almost half of the plant you chose as worst one of their class i'd rank A or S tier... I guess it's just different opinions and acquaintances to plants.
Honorable mention for a usecase of springbean:
In jourassic marsh, the pterodactyl which carries zombies to the back of your lane, casing them to attack your plants from the back, has a pretty entertaining counter using springbean. By planting a row of springbeans on your back lane, and one on the space that springbean flings zombies to, you can basically fling those zombies over your entire defense.
While it's nothing much in adventure mode, threepeater + torchwood + tile turnip is one of the cheapest strat you can use to demolish arena. The fact that you put it on the list instead of split pea is wild.
My main team that sweeps stages is sun shroom, 2 gold blooms, meteor, snow pea, wallnut (2 rows of sun shroom and 2 rows of meteors, snow pea to stall for meteor’s cooldown, gold bloom for early boost and wall nut to defend)
9:44 So anyway, here's Wonderwall-nut.
7:06 I cant stop laughing at this for some reason 😂
For something slightly more different from my usual comments, here’s the mint families I’d put certain plants who I don’t think fit in the ones they’re already in (including Reflourished plants because I play that mod)
Hurrikale: Winter-mint
Perfume-shroom: Enchant-mint
Aloe: Enchant-mint
Imp Pear: Enchant-mint
Torchwood: Pepper-mint
(RFL plants now)
Cattail: Fila-mint
Fanilla: Contain-mint
Lily of Alchemy: Enchant-mint (Ail-mint also works)
Maypop Mechanic: Appease-mint
Lotus Root: Spear-mint (there’s no water mint family so this is the next best alternative I could come up with)
Void Orchid: Enchant-mint
Flameweed: Pepper-mint
the macadamia nut for me is basic a wall-nut without moon flower but with moon flower,it is an endurian
I'd say three peater was one of the best appease mint for tournaments but gatling pea just steals his job
1:30 pepper-mint rodan
2:27 spear-mint gigan
3:00 contain-mint Yeaiubugi
3:50 ail-mint gyaos
4:52 appease-mint shrek
5:26 bombard mint biablooms
6:12 conceal-mint murkadatrons
6:37 arma-mint donkey
7:17 reinforce-mint Maramobinki
7:52 fila-mint gabara
8:45 enlighten-mint Fiona
9:19 enchant-mint maybmons
10:19 winter-mint Boingthra
10:58 enforce-mint guiron
Strawburst,Meteor Flower ect... *Secret or Abilities not mentioned in the video*
Strawburst passive is death explosion *based on 1,2 and 3 stages*
Meteor Flower passive is scare off the dinosaurs
SeaFlora ability and passive: can fire 3 bubbles both in normal attack and pf attack when planted in the water.
Passive:can distinguish fire
Sun Bean secret passive:when the king arrives with normal zombie,when eaten the zombies *CANNOT BE TRANSFORMED INTO A KNIGHT*
MayBee passive:the bees can combo with fila plants *but not all fila plants can combo with MayBee*
Boingsetta secret passive:CAN KNOCKBACK STILTWALKER *she is the only plant CAN KNOCKBACK a stiltwalker zombie*
and finally
Tangle Kelp passive when a upgraded:has 3 lives when at the max level,has 2 lives when at the mid level and 1 live when at the start level.
I hope it helps😊.
I did mention MayBee's synergy with electricity, but most of the others I thought weren't relevant enough to mention, i.e. Meteor Flower's dino-scaring power feels meaningless since you likely will have completed Jurassic Marsh by the time you get the plant. Fair play on Tangle Kelp though, I definitely should have mentioned its abilities with levelling considering I gave Hot Potato a pass for melting Octopi at higher levels.
Basically all of these abilties are niche and dont really matter in the main game (also seaflora's multi-lane attack isnt a "secret ability" its the only reason she even exists in the game)
I hate nocturine so much but i agree murkadamian nut sucks. The other contender for me is the one that has three petals, so weak compared to dragonfruit and dusklobber (shadow shroom and the one that works like tangle kelp on land are good in their own way). Also don’t really see a point with the vine due to no murkadamian synergy. (Forgot to add the peashooter but I love it too since it a slower like stallia)
Are you talking about grim rose?
Wait is it Nightshade?
I think that Nocturne is the worst Containmint plant. Its temporary shadow tiles are almost useless as they last for too little, and it costs more than a moonflower, and it’s a premium plant. There is no reason to use Nocturne when Gloom Vine and especially Moonflower exist.
*Concelmint
0:44 you should be talking about grave buster and lily pad. they’re containmint plants when they don’t stall
Wasn't gonna go through all of the anomalies lol
To be fair to Garlic, he can synergize well with Electric Currant.
You might think: "Well why can't I just use a wall plant to protect my Electric Currants?"
Well Garlic diverts them into Electric Currant's damage range. Assuming you're planting your Electric Currants on the top and bottom rows, which, well why wouldn't you, Garlic can only send zombies where you want them to go. Yes, Garlic doesn't have a lot of health, but I've never had issues with replanting Garlics in front of my Electric Currants except in max difficulty Penny's Pursuits levels, and let's be honest, MOST formerly viable strategies get completely demolished there.
I'd argue that the worst enlightenmint plant is gold leaf because it's a bit too expensive and its recharge is too long for one tile that makes one sun every 20 or so seconds
My list
pepper mint: It's hot potato. How Do people keep defending this plant?
Spear mint: I agree that it's SeaFlora
Contain Mint: I agree that it is spring bean
Ail mint: I agree it's garlic
Appease mint: It's a toss up between pea vine mega Gatling pea or threePeater.
I agree with everything else on this list. Cool list :]
Isnt peanut a reinforcement plant
Imo tumbleweed is the worst appease mint plant at least conjoined peashooter is good in arena with pea vine appease mint and pea vine with Torchwood
@@yes3410 I realised that it was a reinforcemint plant, I just forgot to change it. Also have you seen Flag zombie's "Underrated Plants" Video? I haven't used tumbleweed before so I can't say anything about tumbleweed.
@@yes3410 Yes but, You're comparing tumbleweed to pea vine? Anyway why do you think tumbleweed isn't that great?
@@KhajaSodhu pea vine is the best plant
I can't believe after a whole decade, I never knew about Tangle Kelp being able to counter the Shrak sub!
Lol it took me way too long too...
Fellow J bass enthusiast I see!
Nice Tele deluxe too!
Vamporcini is also terrible xD
Ayyyyyy person of culture over here
You know, I've noticed something interesting recently, in that there's a surprisingly high number of aquatic plants being added (seaflora and electric peel, plus a few others, I believe?) Plus the fact that sea-shroom and aqua vine were leaked... and that one of the most popular pvz2 mods added a water-themed mint... I'm just saying, it would be neat to get a new mint family, that's all
Aloe has a synergy with the Chard Guard if you need to stall the first/last zombie as it's cheaper to plant Aloe behind than constantly refreshing Chard Guard
In the pepper family hot potato is the worst like the only thing you can use him for is remove an ice block when you can literally just use pyre vine to remove heat up the plant, even boungsetta a literal ice plant is more useful to remove the ice block on plant. meteor flower should go to higher place
maybee as worst is a war crime LOOK AT CARROT
I still can't believe they called the freezing mint "winter-mint"
They could've called it enthrallmint or something
Not kidding, I never realised until now that Winter-Mint is the only one that just has a simple name instead of being either a pun on something with the suffix 'ment' or an actual thing ending with 'mint'
I disagree with threepeater, its great in limited plant levels and using its plant food with Torchwood can straight up clear the screen. Peanut, meanwhile, is a plant that just straight up does not work. It is a wall plant that wants to be placed in the back, where at that point it is a more expensive, slower peashooter. If you pkace it in the front to use its (fairly low) health, you end up getting punished since it loses half its dps at half health.
Why was that art of balloon flower and doom shroom adorable
Murkadamua nut is my favorite defensive plant in my opinion it’s better that a tall nut because it deals damage and heals itself
I would like to ass to scaredy shroom: I found this out not too long ago, but you can use blower with scaredy shroom to kill zombies as long as you place a blower, and give the scaredy shroom a plant food. Combine the fact that it shares this effect with every scaredy shroom around him makes it better, it’s still pretty useless
Can't belive that that piece of nothingness called hot potato is higher on his list of forst pepper mint plant, than a meteor flower, kinda nuts for me
I feel like intensive carrot is 10x worse than maybee, intensive carrot costs 100 to revive a plant that is only worth it if the plant was above 100 sun cost, while maybee is a stronger board wide range attacker that can wipe out multiple zombies at a time. I tested maybee and it was able to hold off 2 bucket heads while beeing chewed. So I just think intensive carrot should be there.
This video was a banger, well besides the scaredy shroom slander...
Sorry
I've had this question for a bit but I dont know who else to ask; how do you feel about Daisy chain?
It doesn't do much damage sure but it stuns the whole lane, and continually too, pairing especially well with primal potato as it can be placed and explode before the stun wears off.
It's not a plant I'd actively choose to use often, but it's pretty damn good.
it would be cool if they made it so Murkademai's jelly went above any vine on top of her, it would make a really good synergy with the shadow and fire vines
8:15 i thought buzzbutton because i forgot electric currant even existed !
Vamporcini Is by far the worst Ail-mint plant In PVZ 2 I would say he is ranked below Scary shroom because his ability to Drain up Zombies Health doesn't kill a Browncoat and is Essentially a weaker wallnut that costs 50 more sun. There are better Wall plants in the game Like Tall nut, Infi-nut and Primal Wallnut
Actually, for Reinforce-Mint, I would say Blockolli was worse than Aloe.
Sure, Aloe can't deal damage, but it's useful for healing your wall plants for an okay cost, giving you the ability to place the wall Plant you were about to use for First-Aid in another lane, since I think it's a pretty good healer.
But Blockolli, while it's good since it can stun zombies and slightly damage them, if used with Reinforce-Mint, it's Plant Food becomes pretty much useless since Reinforce-Mint bounces the zombies back and out of Blockolli's range of Plant Food attack, maybe hitting with the stun at the end.
Either way, both have their uses for certain things.
The full list of the worst plants from every Power Mint Family (SPOILERS):
Fila-mint: Electric Currant
Pepper-mint: Meteor Flower
Winter-mint: Boingsetta
Enlighten-mint: Sun Bean
Reinforce-mint: Aloe
Bombard-mint: Strawburst
Ail-mint: Garlic
Enchant-mint: MayBee
Contain-mint: Spring Bean
Enforce-mint: Tangle Kelp
Arma-mint: BoomBerry
Conceal-mint: Murkadamia Nut
Spear-mint: SeaFlora
Appease-mint: Threepeater
I bet that he didn't know meteor flower's plant food scares away all the dinosaurs in jurrassic marsh and other areas when he made this
I hate the fact that maybee only shoots if a zombie is close
So now you gotta have a slow expensive plant in the front hooray
And that the boost only works with 2 electric plants
Idk if blover does this in pvz2, but in pvz1, zombies will try to eat it, so if it works the same way, it would stall for a bit
Only 2 arguments
1 - Pea pod instead of threepeater
2- Phat beet instead of tangle kelp
Peapod takes too long to set up despite being less efficient.
Phat beat is useless in its own world never truly has a place where there aren’t better options vs tangle kelp which can in fact kill fishermen
I think murk is fine since sun producers in general should be more in the front. I appreciate them making a plant that forces this optimal playstyle as it is strangely unpopular for casuals
Except Murk is likely to be unlocked after Adventure so players should be taught to put producers ahead of main attackers before then. Reflourished giving Primal Sunflower a health buff was a great way to do it.
@@GNVS300 well duh, but in mods, I think he's more valuable. Since unlike vanilla, there'll still be enough adventure levels to try murk out and learn to use him correctly.
@@GNVS300 that too, I agree on. Primal Flower's rework definitely helps teach players to front flowers. while sun sunshroom is high risk high reward due to lower hp. and moonflower is pretty much double of that risk.
the lower hp is why I like having murk to protect my moonflowers(when the level allows it of course)
I think bowling bulbs definitely takes the cake for the worst appease-mint plant
I’m just saying, three pea and torch wood combo with boosted on both of them and in arena, THEY BOTH CAN GIVE A LOT OF POINTS unless you don’t know how to place the setup
HELP because this randomly appeared on my fyp and I haven't been into pvz for 3 years now
I remember hating murkadamia nut sm because it wasn't even good to use and you're telling me it never got a SINGLE buff?
Nope, it's never been touched. To be fair until the last three or so years plant balance changes were relatively rare, but for me Murkadamia would have to be completely reworked in order to be viable, because like I said, it just doesn't work with the grid placement
If you think murk not getting touched for 3 years is bad, wait till you hear about pokra (although it's for opposite reasons)
Recently I saw that having a bunch of lightning reeds and fila mint is very busted as the plant gets like x3 damage
How dare yee insult lightning reed man
Lighting Reed is kind of okay, but i've been using E-Peashooter over him, E-p is so much better.
@@itsRuszard one word some of us dont want to spend 4 dollars on a peashooter
@@decimater-fp8uk That's not one word, and I'm not telling you to buy Ep, if you don't want tp buy him, then don't.
There is an argument to be made for buzz button or that one plant that is an electric phat beat that doesn’t do any damage for fila-mint.
Also lightning reed is super good, most times in arena when it’s viable, it does better than my electric pea which is a level higher.
All they need to do to fix Aloe is to scrap the international version and replace it with the Chinese version if you’ve played the Chinese version or watched Flag Zombie’s video about over analyzing every Chinese plant series you’ll know how good it is in that version.
Electricy-tea not being the worst fila mint? I wasnt expecting that
It may be a worse Explode-o-Nut but it’s not that bad. Maybe I’m biased because it was one of the plants I used the most in the short time I played AltVerz, idk
Go wath some pvz ditch lol
E current is much worse
Hot potato is the worst pepper-mint family plant, it does nothing but thaw 1 plant. And takes a good time to recharge. Meteor flower is powerful in good numbers, while expensive, he makes it up in raw, unfiltered, Calamitous Power.
I'm so glad I've came back to PvZ2 after years, but playing the Reflourished mod 👌 Honestly, who in their right mind still chooses the new broken version of PvZ2 with all the garbage over PvZ2 Reflourished...
I agree with your placement of sunbean, there aren’t any bad enlighten mint plants to begin with
Garlic is a cool combo with the electric plant that i don;t remember the name of but they make a line of dmg when u but em in one far away or in front of each others. They can basicaly make a path of pain for the undead - its one of the best combo's in the game as rated by many PlanTubers
Meteor flower is such a spammable plant though, because sun is never really a problem
6:13 wait hold up, why are your sun producers in the back?!
I didn't mean RIGHT at the back, more so the 2nd or 3rd columns from the left, which is the ideal place to plant Moonflowers to supplement Shadow Peas and Dusk Lobbers
The thing is that tomb tangler can go on surfboards if I can remember correctly so make that 3 worlds for tomb Tanger
For fila mint:i would say electrici tea bc not only is the plant literally useless unless killed its still the worst bc electric currant atleast has some good use when paired together and eletrici tea needs to be killed on the other hand
For reinforcement:i would say peanut bc its basically a worse pea shooter and walnut together like atleast make it useful. Aloe is pretty good w holly barier and chard guard and is useful w other plants while peanut isnt
Meteor flower, threepeater, maybee:😭😭
Hot potato, pepper pult, split pea, intensive carrot:😎😎
4:54 threepeater got the worst make me in pain
7:18 poor aloe
Garlic plus aloe work together well together, either for electric current or phatbeat lane
Three peater shouldn't be as bad as you said. They can shoot in 3 rows and if you combine fully upgrade three peater and tile turnip it would be overpowered against a large amount of zombies on screen
Aloe disrespect is crazy bro, lemme just name 1 reason for every wall plant i can think of
Chard gaurd: aloe heals the leaves giving it more uses
Wallnut(primal, tallnut,and tomb wrangler too): it can just indefinitely stall a zombie assuming it doesnt have a alternative ability
Endurian(ans i guess makudamia nut?): its a infinite attacker that also walls
Infin-nut: it just needs health bro
Thats all i got lol
I would argue spring bean is way better than tomb tangler considering the bean is just a cheap Insta with a goated plant food for pirate seas
how to buff spring bean.
1. mix with the garlic
2. end
PvZ china aloe is insanely busted with healing AND attack buffs in a big radius. Funny right?
Hey electric currants makes the most op strategy in pvz2 any malee plant in the behind Spikerock on the front of the malee plant and electric current the top most and bottom and place a kiwi beast at the top and bottom in front of the electric current use plant food on both electric current and use the extra for gargantuans
Oh boy with aloe you would take that back if we would be talking chinese version ESPECIALLY lvl 5!
Aloe plus chard guard is a permanent Staller. It’s one of the best plant combos in the game
Yeah, but that's really gimmicky and only useful if you're trying to make a sissyphus meme.
9:21 as a pvz2 player,I disagree with this.
The worst plant on this family is hocus crocus.
I would pick Hot Potato for Pepper-Mint, Sweet Potato for Reinforce-Mint, Chomper for Enforce-Mint, Toadstool for Enlighten-Mint, Witch Hazel for Enchant-Mint and Vamporcini for Ail-Mint
ngl threepeater is actually really good
Tbh meteor flower is a fun plant to use, deserve some love
when you have mastery 200 lightning reed, he is sooo op especially on arena.
ntm on Meteor Shower, it should've been hot potato or Pepper Pult with 20 seconds recharge
Hot potato Is actually The worst Pepper mint plant, You can only use It in Frostbite caves
Idk if you will actually take this suggestion but i think it would be cool if you ranked each plant family based on basically everything how useful it is during arena how good the plants are etc