@@knkmr4527 I agree on not doing down swing training, but the down swing thought can help some players get a feel for what they should do. That's why I use video to show them even though they think down swing, they down really do that. It is more of a matter of flattening the hands somewhat to provide a better bat path through the szone.
Bottom hand or front arm should be the dominant arm in the swing! It guides the bat through the zone faster helping your bat stay in the zone longer. The back hand/arm should be along for the ride as a guiding hand.
Wait, you contradicted yourself there. Interesintg comment and thought there, but let's think about that for a moment. The bottom hand arm can't be the dominant arm and not guide the bat/barrel through the zone if the top hand arm is along for the ride. I would disagree in the premise that one hand dominates from beginning to end of swing without one or the other ending and the other taking over. For instance, my thought/philosophy is that the front side begins the swing and the backside ends the swing. Pull-push vs Push-pull. Obviously, I am negating the lower body in the start fo the movement and referring tot he 'swing' as after heel plant. I'll probably still get somer flack, feedback, comments on...but I hope I cleared that up. Once you get to Approach, or even Contact or just before, I think the top hand arm takes over and provides additional power through the Contact and into Power-V; full extension. It could be argued and I would somewhat agree that the bottom hand arm completes the swing considering some, if not many hitters finish with one hand-bottom hand arm, but keep in mind, that is well after the actual swing Is finished. Your thoughts?
For anyone who watches this video, be aware of what Ian is referring to when he describes what his back elbow does. I believe Ian is talking about a feeling of his trail elbow (if you watch his swing in slo-mo, his elbow does not get out front like he demonstrates. I would so virtually no, although I am sure at least one somewhere does, has their elbow leading the hands/knob into Approach. Good luck and get your pitch!
Hey Rich, Always like seeing you commenting on videos from different baseball hitting instructors! You’re still among my favorite! My daughter and I are currently referring to your video on the role of the back foot. We were both having some trouble transitioning to getting on the back toes and pinching forward into the front leg. It really helped how you demonstrated shifting the weight from planted to “rolling” on to the medial arch and then into a vertical foot position! Probably should’ve commented on your video instead of high jacking this one! 😬 I did really enjoy this one as well!😉
@@midnightflyer7510 thanks Flyer. Always nice to see your comments and observations. How is the back foot transition going? Here is little tip to help-I hope. Find my hamstring kick drill and practice that for a week. Then do the back toe drag and then forget about working on the back foot for a while and focus on upper body consistency. I think you might be surprised at the results. If you have any questions about what I am talking about, reach out to me. Thanks.
Rich Lovell-The Baseball Barn I’ll be sure to check that out! Thanks so much for your feedback! My daughter’s very motivated! She has USSSA Nationals coming up 7/15 and with this COVID-19 complication we’ve had a lot less time to practice as a team! Thank God we’re now cleared to really start working! We placed pretty high last couple years so we’re setting the bar high for this one! I’ll let you know how we do and thanks again for helping us make continued progress!
Notice he says he wants his elbow to work down before his hands or shoulders start to fire. That’s the feeling he’s using to create proper sequence. Yes his elbow doesn’t lead like that, and interestingly he has very minimal “slotting” of the elbow before he begins rotating compared to most big league hitters, but he does have some and I’m yet to find a mlb hitter who has none. But he’s also a guy who starts with his hands and back elbow pretty low, he’s almost pre-slotted to just allow him to rotate on plane from his starting position. The elbow slotting down is really more of a scap-driven move of that scap rolling down the rib cage, and if you look at Kinsler he gets there as he’s striding and getting his stretch. The elbow doesn’t actually have to lower that much before rotation, what really fundamentally has to happen is that scap has to roll downward before rotation.
Stop studying slow motion swings and messing up kids swings. This is proof perfect as to why you shouldn't. Practice and feel doesn't equal game swing.
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Definitely one of my favorite drills and a reason why Kinsler is a good hitter. I teach this from my 9/10u team all the way to my College Summerball.
If you teach youth players this they will develop bat drag. Big-time
Wow that was the best way for me to describe the front elbow placement to my son. He needs to keep his front elbow bent
I think that japanese children who watch this training are very surprised because they (and I) was said "you should do down swing training".
Good surprised or bad surprised?
@@Warstic good.Japanese training is conventional but there is no reason to do down swing.
@@knkmr4527 I agree on not doing down swing training, but the down swing thought can help some players get a feel for what they should do. That's why I use video to show them even though they think down swing, they down really do that. It is more of a matter of flattening the hands somewhat to provide a better bat path through the szone.
Bottom hand or front arm should be the dominant arm in the swing! It guides the bat through the zone faster helping your bat stay in the zone longer. The back hand/arm should be along for the ride as a guiding hand.
Wait, you contradicted yourself there. Interesintg comment and thought there, but let's think about that for a moment. The bottom hand arm can't be the dominant arm and not guide the bat/barrel through the zone if the top hand arm is along for the ride. I would disagree in the premise that one hand dominates from beginning to end of swing without one or the other ending and the other taking over. For instance, my thought/philosophy is that the front side begins the swing and the backside ends the swing. Pull-push vs Push-pull. Obviously, I am negating the lower body in the start fo the movement and referring tot he 'swing' as after heel plant. I'll probably still get somer flack, feedback, comments on...but I hope I cleared that up. Once you get to Approach, or even Contact or just before, I think the top hand arm takes over and provides additional power through the Contact and into Power-V; full extension. It could be argued and I would somewhat agree that the bottom hand arm completes the swing considering some, if not many hitters finish with one hand-bottom hand arm, but keep in mind, that is well after the actual swing Is finished. Your thoughts?
he is in the mlb, i think he knows what heis talking about.
I like that Fungo idea 💡
Me too (The Baseball barn)
Awesome video, would love to see Ian discuss his approaches at the plate and his other fundamental focuses while training.
If elbow is leading is this not causing bat drag? My daughter swing with elbow lead currently and I am trying to break that
Am I the only one who thought that ball was floating on the Tee?
THANKS IAN
For anyone who watches this video, be aware of what Ian is referring to when he describes what his back elbow does. I believe Ian is talking about a feeling of his trail elbow (if you watch his swing in slo-mo, his elbow does not get out front like he demonstrates. I would so virtually no, although I am sure at least one somewhere does, has their elbow leading the hands/knob into Approach. Good luck and get your pitch!
Hey Rich, Always like seeing you commenting on videos from different baseball hitting instructors! You’re still among my favorite! My daughter and I are currently referring to your video on the role of the back foot. We were both having some trouble transitioning to getting on the back toes and pinching forward into the front leg. It really helped how you demonstrated shifting the weight from planted to “rolling” on to the medial arch and then into a vertical foot position! Probably should’ve commented on your video instead of high jacking this one! 😬
I did really enjoy this one as well!😉
@@midnightflyer7510 thanks Flyer. Always nice to see your comments and observations. How is the back foot transition going? Here is little tip to help-I hope. Find my hamstring kick drill and practice that for a week. Then do the back toe drag and then forget about working on the back foot for a while and focus on upper body consistency. I think you might be surprised at the results. If you have any questions about what I am talking about, reach out to me. Thanks.
Rich Lovell-The Baseball Barn
I’ll be sure to check that out! Thanks so much for your feedback! My daughter’s very motivated! She has USSSA Nationals coming up 7/15 and with this COVID-19 complication we’ve had a lot less time to practice as a team! Thank God we’re now cleared to really start working! We placed pretty high last couple years so we’re setting the bar high for this one! I’ll let you know how we do and thanks again for helping us make continued progress!
Notice he says he wants his elbow to work down before his hands or shoulders start to fire. That’s the feeling he’s using to create proper sequence. Yes his elbow doesn’t lead like that, and interestingly he has very minimal “slotting” of the elbow before he begins rotating compared to most big league hitters, but he does have some and I’m yet to find a mlb hitter who has none. But he’s also a guy who starts with his hands and back elbow pretty low, he’s almost pre-slotted to just allow him to rotate on plane from his starting position. The elbow slotting down is really more of a scap-driven move of that scap rolling down the rib cage, and if you look at Kinsler he gets there as he’s striding and getting his stretch. The elbow doesn’t actually have to lower that much before rotation, what really fundamentally has to happen is that scap has to roll downward before rotation.
Stop studying slow motion swings and messing up kids swings. This is proof perfect as to why you shouldn't. Practice and feel doesn't equal game swing.
The most beautiful man I’ve ever seen!
His son goes to school with me-
Awesome! Thanks!
The racing elbow works for him obviously.