I forgot about #7 (soak before using) before my 2nd hike with it and was surprised when I got hardly any flow of water after filling the bottle. I left the water in and tried again 20 minutes later and it worked fine.
I'm confused. If Katadyn says that running the filter horizontally under a kitchen tap can damage the filter, then shaking it like you suggested in Step 2, or even just hiking with it and having water sloshing around in the bottle is far more violent.
I feel like they have to think about cases where the stream of tap water is too strong, so they rather advice to not do it at all. (Probably to avoid legal issues, I guess.)
Citric acid powder also works instead of vinegar. Much easier to store and use. I typically backflush with water + tiny bit if bleach or aquamira (chlorine dioxide). Dry completely before storage
Hej, mycket bra instruktionsfilm. Har ett BeFree filter sedan några år men aldrig behövt använda det. Behöver inte bära vatten då jag har filtret med mig som reserv. Har kokat vatten någon gång då jag känt mig osäker.
Hmm 🤔 been using the BeFree for a longer time so more used to it! But switched to Squeeze last year just to try and no problem what so ever! Works very well so 🤷🏼♂️ like them both! 🙂
Thanks so much for this! I thought my filter was completely dead, but it was a combination of clogged and not reactivated after storage. I tried the ättika trick and compared pushing 200ml Gothenburg tap water through it before (32s) and after resting overnight (10s!)
Grüße dich Robert. Eine schöne Vorstellung,👍 habe den Wasserfilter schon länger im Einsatz. Funktioniert gut, hatte den Filter gerade auf einer Kajak Tour in Grönland 🇬🇱 mit. Viele Grüße von Prignitz Outdoor.
@@KasparJohannes a good solution to have in a boat for emergencies, but for hiking it’s a bit too heavy. 1.13 kg for just in case is a bit too much. But a great tip… didn’t know they existed and that boiling was your only option.
When is a good situation to use water purifier tablets in conjunction with this filter? And can the tablet be used in the BeFree container? Thanks for the video!
i done this with my sawyer squeeze( and yes i used filtered hot water) it improved the flow, but then shorlty after i toook it on my trip and the thing water just barely dripped bit and i tried several times during 3 days! i had little better experince with mini, what is the problem? i m giving up .. katadyn be free as i understand works with similar technology and suffers from the same problem.
@@FlyfishermanMike didnt work. i bought a new one. it is about 4 years old but only could have filtered about 300 liters. i hope the new one works better. the first never had much flow from day one. so maybe it was a dud
Good tips! Portable device to convert salt water into fresh water: Your cook kit with folding cup and lid as below. You will have to build a still: 1) Float a the cup in your pot of salt water. 2) Cover the pot with an inverted lid that dips down slightly in the middle. (If necessary, make a slightly conical lid from the sheet of aluminum foil that you carry for just such an emergency.) 3) Boil the salt water. If it works correctly, water vapor will condense on the lid and drip into the collection cup. This will require a lot of fuel if you do it over a stove. Since you're probably on a beach (to get the salt water), build a safe wood fire in the sand. Keep your dirty water bag full and nearby in case you need to douse the fire.
@@roberthammenrudh Here's a good vid on how to build a packable still that uses your metal water bottle as a steam reservoir. It is reasonably light and compact and would work over a wood fire if you needed to desalinate a lot of water: ruclips.net/video/PT6cjp_zThw/видео.html
I guess this guy has never heard of back flushing. Even without something like a Sawyer to do. It's simple. Fill your mouth with water. Plug the filter in your mouth. Blow. Simple. That'll flush most of the crap out of the pores. Then just do a clean push of water back from the filter end and you are good to go again as normal. Also never soak these kinds of filters in bleach or vinegar. That eats up the plastic and makes the filters weaker WRONG thing to ever ever ever do period.
Back flushing is not recommended by Katadyn and the recommended procedure from Katadyn is similar to the one described in this video and will not harm your filter. If using Sawyer Squeeze on the other hand, back flushing is recommended and a plunger is also included in the purchase. Different products, different recommendations.
@@roberthammenrudhThey don't want you to do a full backflush because the product doesn't have any form of option to do so like Sawyer with the plunger. They don't want someone to grab a bag and tie it around the sip piece and squeeze water from that end. That would give to much pressure to the filter. But a small backflush with your own mouth will not give enough pressure to pop a fiber or harm it. And with the fibers being exposed on the dirty side. This makes it far easier to pull and do by far since it will allow the dirt to release from the pores easier then a confined closed cell unit like a Sawyer is that only has 1 end to escape from. Which is why they have a plunger style back flush system to put bit more pressure on the inner piece to force water out from the pores and flush it from the single entrance hole. Either that or Katadyn produce is far weaker then any company i seen. Even cheapo random companies i seen on amazon allow back flush and they use the same fibers as most 3rd party companies that aren't Sawyer or Lifestraw. So i highly dout a mouthful of water to lightly puff from the sipper would do anymore harm then what the filter does giving clean water to your sip point.
@@roberthammenrudh four of them have clogged on me now. After one clogged on me at 5500 feet I am completely over it . Company knows about the problem but doesn’t do anything about it. You can put that thing in vinegar or bleach all night long. Actually, you can put it in for the rest of your life and it will not unclog. Something like this should never not work wayyyyyy too important. We’re talking about the most pristine Mountain Lakes. I’m not filtering mud puddles.
@@roberthammenrudh The fix doesn’t work and anything that doesn’t work in a situation where You need to treat contaminated water or you could get sick and die is a piece of garbage. The filter clogs, and has absolutely no flow and their suggestions for breaking apart, the sediment and getting it to work again. Phew
I forgot about #7 (soak before using) before my 2nd hike with it and was surprised when I got hardly any flow of water after filling the bottle. I left the water in and tried again 20 minutes later and it worked fine.
I'm confused. If Katadyn says that running the filter horizontally under a kitchen tap can damage the filter, then shaking it like you suggested in Step 2, or even just hiking with it and having water sloshing around in the bottle is far more violent.
I feel like they have to think about cases where the stream of tap water is too strong, so they rather advice to not do it at all. (Probably to avoid legal issues, I guess.)
Citric acid powder also works instead of vinegar. Much easier to store and use. I typically backflush with water + tiny bit if bleach or aquamira (chlorine dioxide). Dry completely before storage
Good tip and if powder one could potentially also bring it for hikes if needed!
Hej, mycket bra instruktionsfilm. Har ett BeFree filter sedan några år men aldrig behövt använda det. Behöver inte bära vatten då jag har filtret med mig som reserv. Har kokat vatten någon gång då jag känt mig osäker.
Tackar 🙏🏻
Thank you. Concise and very useful.
Works like a charm. Thanks!
Super useful video ! Thank you !
You’re welcome, glad you liked it! 🙂
If soaking on vinegar/citric acid don't leave it too long. It will start to dissolve the resin holding the hollow fibers. A few hours is plenty.
Nice tips. Thanks Robert. Are you preferring the befree to the sawyer squeeze now?
Hmm 🤔 been using the BeFree for a longer time so more used to it! But switched to Squeeze last year just to try and no problem what so ever! Works very well so 🤷🏼♂️ like them both! 🙂
Thanks so much for this! I thought my filter was completely dead, but it was a combination of clogged and not reactivated after storage.
I tried the ättika trick and compared pushing 200ml Gothenburg tap water through it before (32s) and after resting overnight (10s!)
Glad to hear it worked out for you! 😀👍🏻
Grüße dich Robert.
Eine schöne Vorstellung,👍 habe den Wasserfilter schon länger im Einsatz.
Funktioniert gut, hatte den Filter gerade auf einer Kajak Tour in Grönland 🇬🇱 mit.
Viele Grüße von Prignitz Outdoor.
Great to hear you had a good experience with the filter 👍🏻 and Greenland, wow! Must have been nice?
@roberthammenrudh There is a portable device, that can desalinate water, the Katadyn Survivor 06.
Thanks 🙏🏻 will look into it!
@@roberthammenrudh It's a device for emergency use and not really practical, especially because of the very low throughput.
@@KasparJohannes a good solution to have in a boat for emergencies, but for hiking it’s a bit too heavy. 1.13 kg for just in case is a bit too much. But a great tip… didn’t know they existed and that boiling was your only option.
When is a good situation to use water purifier tablets in conjunction with this filter? And can the tablet be used in the BeFree container? Thanks for the video!
From what I remember, tablets (with these types of filters) are used when there's suspicion of a viral contamination in the water.
i done this with my sawyer squeeze( and yes i used filtered hot water) it improved the flow, but then shorlty after i toook it on my trip and the thing water just barely dripped bit and i tried several times during 3 days! i had little better experince with mini, what is the problem? i m giving up .. katadyn be free as i understand works with similar technology and suffers from the same problem.
Vad är det svenska alternativ för definiera filtret?
Klorin är väl samma sak typ och vårt mest använda blekmedel. 🙂
just fyi....katadyn says vinegar can damage the filter. not sure why.
It starts to dissolve the resin holding the fibers in place. Just don't leave it for too long.
@@FlyfishermanMike didnt work. i bought a new one. it is about 4 years old but only could have filtered about 300 liters. i hope the new one works better. the first never had much flow from day one. so maybe it was a dud
Thanks😀👍
Vilken Bleach använder du?
Hello, I saw your video, good tips...but the Befree can't filter chemicals, so you need an activated carbon filter.
greeting
Thanks, and yep absolutely true. Not necessary I believe for hiking but if using water closer to roads or industry it might be a good idea.
Good tips!
Portable device to convert salt water into fresh water: Your cook kit with folding cup and lid as below.
You will have to build a still:
1) Float a the cup in your pot of salt water.
2) Cover the pot with an inverted lid that dips down slightly in the middle.
(If necessary, make a slightly conical lid from the sheet of aluminum foil that you carry for just such an emergency.)
3) Boil the salt water.
If it works correctly, water vapor will condense on the lid and drip into the collection cup.
This will require a lot of fuel if you do it over a stove. Since you're probably on a beach (to get the salt water), build a safe wood fire in the sand. Keep your dirty water bag full and nearby in case you need to douse the fire.
Thanks, an easy and good way of doing it and well written 👍🏻👌🏻 these things are good to practice before it may be your only option! 🙂
@@roberthammenrudh Here's a good vid on how to build a packable still that uses your metal water bottle as a steam reservoir. It is reasonably light and compact and would work over a wood fire if you needed to desalinate a lot of water: ruclips.net/video/PT6cjp_zThw/видео.html
Thank
🙂👍🏻
You kept pointing your finger at the bottle for about 100 times. Drives me nuts!!!
warm water plus some bleach ..........it works perfectly 45
I guess this guy has never heard of back flushing. Even without something like a Sawyer to do. It's simple. Fill your mouth with water. Plug the filter in your mouth. Blow. Simple. That'll flush most of the crap out of the pores. Then just do a clean push of water back from the filter end and you are good to go again as normal.
Also never soak these kinds of filters in bleach or vinegar. That eats up the plastic and makes the filters weaker WRONG thing to ever ever ever do period.
Back flushing is not recommended by Katadyn and the recommended procedure from Katadyn is similar to the one described in this video and will not harm your filter.
If using Sawyer Squeeze on the other hand, back flushing is recommended and a plunger is also included in the purchase.
Different products, different recommendations.
@@roberthammenrudhThey don't want you to do a full backflush because the product doesn't have any form of option to do so like Sawyer with the plunger. They don't want someone to grab a bag and tie it around the sip piece and squeeze water from that end. That would give to much pressure to the filter. But a small backflush with your own mouth will not give enough pressure to pop a fiber or harm it. And with the fibers being exposed on the dirty side. This makes it far easier to pull and do by far since it will allow the dirt to release from the pores easier then a confined closed cell unit like a Sawyer is that only has 1 end to escape from. Which is why they have a plunger style back flush system to put bit more pressure on the inner piece to force water out from the pores and flush it from the single entrance hole.
Either that or Katadyn produce is far weaker then any company i seen. Even cheapo random companies i seen on amazon allow back flush and they use the same fibers as most 3rd party companies that aren't Sawyer or Lifestraw. So i highly dout a mouthful of water to lightly puff from the sipper would do anymore harm then what the filter does giving clean water to your sip point.
Absolute garbage
Please explain 🤔
@@roberthammenrudh four of them have clogged on me now. After one clogged on me at 5500 feet I am completely over it . Company knows about the problem but doesn’t do anything about it. You can put that thing in vinegar or bleach all night long. Actually, you can put it in for the rest of your life and it will not unclog. Something like this should never not work wayyyyyy too important. We’re talking about the most pristine Mountain Lakes. I’m not filtering mud puddles.
@@roberthammenrudh you do a good job on the videos don’t take it personally.
@@pdxraves thanks, still interested to know what you feel is garbage? The filter itself or the treatment making it up and running again?
@@roberthammenrudh The fix doesn’t work and anything that doesn’t work in a situation where You need to treat contaminated water or you could get sick and die is a piece of garbage. The filter clogs, and has absolutely no flow and their suggestions for breaking apart, the sediment and getting it to work again. Phew