Why give a platform to a person that makes no sense of the real issues???? I’m a gay man and I DO NOT agree with that Butt-worse guy and I’m glad Lewis Oakley was there to give a balanced view. Imagine THE BIRDCAGE without the brilliant Robin Williams, or even PRISCILLA, THE QUEEN OF THE DESERT without it’s original cast…
I totally agree. I'm tired of these crazy woke people speaking for gay people (or any group) and even left-wing people. They are nuts. We are also not a monolith. I remember when Brokeback Mountain came out or Philidelphia for example and I think it did a lot to humanize and move the social conversation forward for us. As well as in the reverse like Niel Patrick Harris in How I met you Mother and in Harold and Kumar. I feel like he is promoting for us to go back to being segregated from society.
Well, only if gay actors are prepared to exclude themselves from playing straight parts, but I think most would think that might restrict their careers.
I suppose the point is to give ‘balance’ - and with Butterworth they do get a lot of bang for their buck. Or lots of lefty woke bullshit for their appearance fee.
Nancy Cartwright a 65 year old woman, is most famous for playing a ten year old boy. Gorden Kaye, a gay man, played womaniser Rene in "Allo Allo". Emilia Clarke has never flown a dragon, Chris Barrie is not dead, Dean Cain is not from another planet. Need I go on?
John Hurt played Quentin Crisp, he brought a humanity to Crisp’s life story that showed an audience of the times the pain and suffering gay men went through, and by the way Benjamin, being Black is not a niche experience of the world, people of colour as the term is used these days make up over 80% of the worlds population, being Black in a Country that’s mainly white is a niche experience, maybe you need to to experience the world more before making judgements on who should pretend to play a part in order to amuse entertain and sometimes inform the paying public.
And does straight people only play straight roles?? It is going to be hard to find many straight people to play straight roles because there are soooo many gays in the business..
Does nayone remeebr the 'A Single Man' film directed by Tom Ford based on the novella by Christopher Isherwood starring Colin Firth? All the actors playing Gays were straight, all the actors playing Americans were British! It was a good film wholly beleivable.
only English actors should take on English rolles. Only Scottish actors should play Scottish ppl. If only gays should take gay roles, then only straight actors should play straight roles.....which means that LGBTQ+ would have very few roles.
Only serial killers should play serial killers. Only vampires should play vampires. Etc etc. I guess Benjamin butterworth’ a possible roles are very limited. It’s rare for a movie to feature soy infused, mentally deficient omega males with less testosterone than a my little pony.
It won’t matter, in the near future all actors will be replaced by AI generated characters and they’ll all be out of a job. Anyway, given Benjamin thinks men can play woman face, surely any actor just needs to self identify into the role, plus according to Benjamin it’s how you feel inside not about reality!
Actors or not, most men/women don't want to kiss/sec scenes with same secs for money/job. This is a ridiculous subject. If you can do it then accept the job, if you can't, don't take the job.
No- they are actors. If an actor doesn’t want a role, don’t take the role. Does Benjamin think only murderers should play murderers? I don’t need to know anything about an actors private life. They just have to make us believe in the character they are playing. The right person, who gave the best audition, should get the role.
The whole point of acting ,is to have the ability to be diverse and actually act , unfortunately the box ticking is doing away with real actors,replaced with plastic fantastic. I, to , wonder who they would get to act as a serial killer,perhaps a trans person with high heels or someone from death row.🤕🤭
The irony here is, in Benjamin’s view Straight Actors are not allowed to pretend to be Gay on screen, yet all sorts of people can identify as all these different genders (or things). He also believes Gay people can play Straight characters but Straight people cannot play Gay characters. Look at the beautiful, wonderful representations of Gay characters on screen who have been portrayed by Straight actors. Acting is acting, you pretend to be something else. Without Actors, there would be no films. No films about characters. . . That includes Gay characters, Benjamin! So just let people act!
Oh for god's sake just let the past go ..Have none of you done something that if it was bought up 25 years later you would stand up and say fair game I will now go and wear a hair shirt as penance . Can't see that happening !! the reply would BUT THAT WAS YEARS AGO FORGET IT !!!
So by that logic should men be allowed to identify as women? Who tells the story of being a woman, better than a woman! I'm onboard, time to stop the madness 👍
Benjamin Butter(wouldn't melt in his mouth) ..once again asking for fairness while being unfair to others... if you can't see your argument doesn't hold water, you're either lying to yourself or lying to everyone else ( hey its a job).........Meritocracy is the only way
The profession in itself is literally called ACTING. That being said, any gay and straight person that could act the part should both be given the fair opportunity to take on the role.
HOW CAN YOU SIT THERE AND PONTIFICATE AS YOU DO !!! If an actor goes for a role in film ,play it should be given on merit NOT on what his gender is ???? There is enough unfair treatment to all people by others ??without now trying to interfere with getting on in life BECAUSE YOU HAVE GREAT TALENT ,NOT BECAUSE OF FAVOURITISM OR FEAR OF BACK LASH IF YOU HAPPEN TO PICK THE BETTER PERSON FOR THE JOB/ROLE!!!
Totally agree. And only heterosexuals should play heterosexuals. Let's see how may openly gay actors there will be when the only roles available to them are minor, bit part roles. This should also apply to biological males/females playing men's/women's parts (yes, two genders), white people playing white characters (as written or as existed in real life) and non-whites playing those characters (as written or as existed in real life). Can you imagine if someone decided to remake Malcolm X and replace Denzel with Graham Norton!
The elephant in the room is the entertainment industry, especially acting is not exactly under represented by gay or bisexual actors, it's more a case of spot the straight person
Lewis is absolutely correct. But if look at the movie Philidelphia where Tom Hanks played the lead as a gay man there's support from the actor for both sides of this debate. "Tom Hanks said that the film would not get made nowadays with a straight actor in a gay role, stating audiences wouldn't "accept the inauthenticity of a straight guy playing a gay guy". Hanks added that that was "rightly so", stating "One of the reasons people weren't afraid of that movie is that I was playing a gay man"." Tom Hanks is correct. Many flocked to the cinema because he was playing the role, and we mustn't forget the AIDS stigma back in 93.
Surely, all the reasons given to show why only gays can play gay roles also works against them for non gay roles. I dare say they are some may not do a good job but that's down to casting..
Why should a persons sexuality have any relevance to any job. There are millions of people who do not use their sexual preferences as a crutch as butter does, or even thinks it necessary for anyone to know their sexuality.
@@martynblackburn9632 teamwork does not require a sexuality decree. I can work in any team without knowing sexual preferences, gender identity or even political persuasion of anyone. If you can't, that's a fault not something to boast about.
Sex is *EVERYTHING* for them. No other character of their personality is important. This man is obsessed with sex and doesn't care about any other aspects of a person. Sickening
Benjamin's almost predictable stance regarding contentious sexuality and identity issues makes him such an Interesting and valuable contributor. He's intelligent as well as infuriating, which I find quite endearing.
Oh Butterworth, the eternal man baby. IT'S CALLED ACTING! And several gay actors who are out have played a variety of roles, gay and straight, by saying only they can play gay roles because they are gay in real life will basically limit their roles. And let's face it Neil Patrick Harris and Matt Bomer are both so extremely talented, it would be a waste them only being able to play gay, because if only they can play gay, then only straight actors should play straight roles. Butterworth as usual just showing how utterly one sided he is.
Well I suspect that homosexuals abound in the acting fraternity, on the other hand finding a heterosexual in that group might be more difficult. But that's just my opinion. It's a foolish idea anyhow.
@@martynblackburn9632 So why should a perceived straight person not play a gay role? They may not have made it public. Are you advocating employment due to your sexual preferences and of what business is that to anyone!
By Benjamin's "niche lived experience" logic, only poor people should be cast to play poor characters. Cops should play cops. Serial killers should play serial killers. Prostitutes should play prostitutes. Princesses should play princesses. Etc, etc. Does he actually understand what it means to be an actor? Also, how does he know that prominent gay roles weren't offered to gay actors but they turned them down because they didn't want to be typecast in those kinds of roles? He can't just assume why straight actors were cast in those roles.
Bros, a gay film directed by a gay man with a gay cast, completely tanked. Maybe if a well-known straight actor was cast it wouldn’t have been such a failure.
So with their logic. Straight roles can only be played by straight people. British roles can only be played by British actors and female roles can only be played by biological female.
Meanwhile, in the real World, Benjamin has no objection to anyone pretending to be anything they want to be, even if it's not true
So by that logic no gay actors should play straight roles? Half of Hollywood will be out of work!
So, only criminals should play criminals? Where does this stop? It's acting!
So does that mean only a homicidal maniac can play a serial killer?
Or a dead person play a dead person?
In benjamins world only the LBGT community get to take part in anything, how excepting of him :-)
My sentiments exactly.
@@lollybooth7008 Lmao
@@lollybooth7008 Actually if you’ve seen Apocalypse Now, all those corpses you see? They’re all real. Coppola just raised a couple of morgues.
You can always rely on Butterworth to be on the wrong side of a debate.
Thats his job
True. He's good value though 😂
Can't stand him tbh.
as a not very violent person I could easily headbutt him!
@@PaaSiaw haha I think the same thing everytime he opens his victim mouth!
Benjamin always comes out with BS No matter what the topic is!!!
Absolutely Ben is just so full of cr#p
He's a complete Muppet who's stealing a living
He suffers from attention seeking disorder its a common disorder amongst todays youth
Why give a platform to a person that makes no sense of the real issues???? I’m a gay man and I DO NOT agree with that Butt-worse guy and I’m glad Lewis Oakley was there to give a balanced view. Imagine THE BIRDCAGE without the brilliant Robin Williams, or even PRISCILLA, THE QUEEN OF THE DESERT without it’s original cast…
I totally agree. I'm tired of these crazy woke people speaking for gay people (or any group) and even left-wing people. They are nuts. We are also not a monolith. I remember when Brokeback Mountain came out or Philidelphia for example and I think it did a lot to humanize and move the social conversation forward for us. As well as in the reverse like Niel Patrick Harris in How I met you Mother and in Harold and Kumar. I feel like he is promoting for us to go back to being segregated from society.
And only straight actors portray straight characters, and so on.
I'm convinced Benjamin's mother spent his childhood saying...
'Stop being silly Benjamin, nobody thinks it's clever.'
I’m sure his mother said of course you can stick Lego up your bum Benjamin it’s normal.
@ Don't look now , A ( I can't believe it's not butter ) buttery comment worth spreading
Spent? He's still in it.
@@lumpyfishgravy This is true.😂
Well, only if gay actors are prepared to exclude themselves from playing straight parts, but I think most would think that might restrict their careers.
Butterworth actually turns me off watching GB news I think giving him so much air time is a grave mistake and will lose GB news many viewers.
I suppose the point is to give ‘balance’ - and with Butterworth they do get a lot of bang for their buck. Or lots of lefty woke bullshit for their appearance fee.
Surely the writer is responsible for the story. The actor just speaks the lines.
The solution is simple. All straight actors need to do is just identify as gay.
good idea Malik 🤗 that's fair .
Poor pld Benjamin, he always ends up having to tie himself in knots like a pretzel, to justify his wokeism.
So consequently only straight actors should take on straight roles, no gay actors allowed?🙄
gets my vote
and how exactly does any actor prove they are gay? do they have to shag the Director?
They have to be shagged by the director not the other way around.
The most talented should get the role, anything else is prejudiced , ppl like this are beyond a joke
Nancy Cartwright a 65 year old woman, is most famous for playing a ten year old boy.
Gorden Kaye, a gay man, played womaniser Rene in "Allo Allo".
Emilia Clarke has never flown a dragon, Chris Barrie is not dead, Dean Cain is not from another planet. Need I go on?
Absolutely ridiculous... this is why this needs to be stopped. 😂
John Hurt played Quentin Crisp, he brought a humanity to Crisp’s life story that showed an audience of the times the pain and suffering gay men went through, and by the way Benjamin, being Black is not a niche experience of the world, people of colour as the term is used these days make up over 80% of the worlds population, being Black in a Country that’s mainly white is a niche experience, maybe you need to to experience the world more before making judgements on who should pretend to play a part in order to amuse entertain and sometimes inform the paying public.
I thought acting was pretending to be someone else
And does straight people only play straight roles?? It is going to be hard to find many straight people to play straight roles because there are soooo many gays in the business..
Ben: only gays can play gays.
Also Ben: of course men can be women.
Playing yourself is not called acting FFS
Does nayone remeebr the 'A Single Man' film directed by Tom Ford based on the novella by Christopher Isherwood starring Colin Firth? All the actors playing Gays were straight, all the actors playing Americans were British! It was a good film wholly beleivable.
With that logic where do you get actors for horror movies. Get the odd murderer or two from a prison 😂 he needs to look up the meaning of acting
Double standards of this guy isnt shocking!!!
If an actor is prepared to hold hands with another guy, kiss him, etc., why does it matter if he is straight?
only English actors should take on English rolles. Only Scottish actors should play Scottish ppl. If only gays should take gay roles, then only straight actors should play straight roles.....which means that LGBTQ+ would have very few roles.
YAY! hole in one!
First there's no such thing as LGBTQBLAHBLAH it's LGB that's it
Only serial killers should play serial killers. Only vampires should play vampires. Etc etc. I guess Benjamin butterworth’ a possible roles are very limited. It’s rare for a movie to feature soy infused, mentally deficient omega males with less testosterone than a my little pony.
Only female actors should take on female roles.
Let loose the inmates of Broadmoor to play the next serial killers in Netflix movies. Then let them attend an after party.....with Butterworth.
It won’t matter, in the near future all actors will be replaced by AI generated characters and they’ll all be out of a job. Anyway, given Benjamin thinks men can play woman face, surely any actor just needs to self identify into the role, plus according to Benjamin it’s how you feel inside not about reality!
Actors or not, most men/women don't want to kiss/sec scenes with same secs for money/job. This is a ridiculous subject. If you can do it then accept the job, if you can't, don't take the job.
No- they are actors.
If an actor doesn’t want a role, don’t take the role.
Does Benjamin think only murderers should play murderers?
I don’t need to know anything about an actors private life. They just have to make us believe in the character they are playing.
The right person, who gave the best audition, should get the role.
Butterworth is a wind up merchant. A rich one.
Its called acting FFS!
Absolute rubbish, the best person for the job gets the job, or it is discrimination on both sides.
The whole point of acting ,is to have the ability to be diverse and actually act , unfortunately the box ticking is doing away with real actors,replaced with plastic fantastic.
I, to , wonder who they would get to act as a serial killer,perhaps a trans person with high heels or someone from death row.🤕🤭
The irony here is, in Benjamin’s view Straight Actors are not allowed to pretend to be Gay on screen, yet all sorts of people can identify as all these different genders (or things). He also believes Gay people can play Straight characters but Straight people cannot play Gay characters. Look at the beautiful, wonderful representations of Gay characters on screen who have been portrayed by Straight actors. Acting is acting, you pretend to be something else. Without Actors, there would be no films. No films about characters. . . That includes Gay characters, Benjamin! So just let people act!
Actors portray characters...isn't that in their job description 😛
I am perfectly fine with only gay actors olaying gay roles as long as only straight actors can play straight roles 😊
Just heard Butterworth on Jeremy Vine calling Boris Johnson an adulterer (correct) but no mention of the king and queen consorts behaviour 😂😂
I'll all for direct truths, even from p**fs.
Oh for god's sake just let the past go ..Have none of you done something that if it was bought up 25 years later you would stand up and say fair game I will now go and wear a hair shirt as penance . Can't see that happening !! the reply would BUT THAT WAS YEARS AGO FORGET IT !!!
@@margaretdavies5376 and the paedophile prince. ? Should we say "THAT WAS YEARS AGO, FORGET IT " ?
Where are they finding heterosexual actors these days? I thought they were all thrown out. Well, at least the pale skinned ones!
It's called ACTING.😂
So by that logic should men be allowed to identify as women? Who tells the story of being a woman, better than a woman! I'm onboard, time to stop the madness 👍
So what your saying is no actors can actually act
Jesus Ben - the whole point of acting is to pretend to be someone else. It’s the same as Benny pretending to be someone with a brain.
Tom Hanks in Philadelphia was a flop then was it?
That's ridiculous
By the same token I suppose only straight actors should play straight roles. Is that what he is saying?
I don't consider watching Puffs as entertainment.
Therefore gay actors should NOT!!! play straight roles. How about that?
Benjamin Butter(wouldn't melt in his mouth) ..once again asking for fairness while being unfair to others... if you can't see your argument doesn't hold water, you're either lying to yourself or lying to everyone else ( hey its a job).........Meritocracy is the only way
Can someone push my stool in please 😂
Ian McKellen should not have played Gandalf because he wasn't a real wizard.
Who gave this fool a job? 😂
But there are campy gay blokes and straight-acting gays. Depending on the role needed, a straight bloke could fake a straight-acting gay.
Oh dear, pity Benjamin is rarely on the button #ReformUK #TheReclaimParty #TheHeritageParty
👏🏻👏🏼👏🏽 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴
To be fair the guy in bridgerton was lousy at playing a heterosexual guy, then i found out he was gay 😅
and only white actors can play roles in Shakespeare, Dickens, Jane Austin and the Bronte novels ...
Its called acting isnt it?
Does that mean that from now on only women can play pantomime dames?
i'm cool with that long as only straight actors playing straight men , but i'm guessing he wouldn't agree to that
There certainly has been a rewriting of history.
The profession in itself is literally called ACTING. That being said, any gay and straight person that could act the part should both be given the fair opportunity to take on the role.
HOW CAN YOU SIT THERE AND PONTIFICATE AS YOU DO !!! If an actor goes for a role in film ,play it should be given on merit NOT on what his gender is ???? There is enough unfair treatment to all people by others ??without now trying to interfere with getting on in life BECAUSE YOU HAVE GREAT TALENT ,NOT BECAUSE OF FAVOURITISM OR FEAR OF BACK LASH IF YOU HAPPEN TO PICK THE BETTER PERSON FOR THE JOB/ROLE!!!
Totally agree. And only heterosexuals should play heterosexuals. Let's see how may openly gay actors there will be when the only roles available to them are minor, bit part roles. This should also apply to biological males/females playing men's/women's parts (yes, two genders), white people playing white characters (as written or as existed in real life) and non-whites playing those characters (as written or as existed in real life). Can you imagine if someone decided to remake Malcolm X and replace Denzel with Graham Norton!
Rock Hudson famous actor he was gay and played many romantic roles
I hope Benjamin is released from his BDSM dungeon soon.
The elephant in the room is the entertainment industry, especially acting is not exactly under represented by gay or bisexual actors, it's more a case of spot the straight person
Lewis is absolutely correct. But if look at the movie Philidelphia where Tom Hanks played the lead as a gay man there's support from the actor for both sides of this debate. "Tom Hanks said that the film would not get made nowadays with a straight actor in a gay role, stating audiences wouldn't "accept the inauthenticity of a straight guy playing a gay guy". Hanks added that that was "rightly so", stating "One of the reasons people weren't afraid of that movie is that I was playing a gay man"." Tom Hanks is correct. Many flocked to the cinema because he was playing the role, and we mustn't forget the AIDS stigma back in 93.
Surely, all the reasons given to show why only gays can play gay roles also works against them for non gay roles. I dare say they are some may not do a good job but that's down to casting..
And no gay people playing straight rolls, that will limit about 2 thirds of the acting community!
Why should a persons sexuality have any relevance to any job. There are millions of people who do not use their sexual preferences as a crutch as butter does, or even thinks it necessary for anyone to know their sexuality.
Because many jobs require team work.
@@martynblackburn9632 teamwork does not require a sexuality decree. I can work in any team without knowing sexual preferences, gender identity or even political persuasion of anyone. If you can't, that's a fault not something to boast about.
Okay...so, for the character of, say, Morgana in Persona 5, which talking cat should they have cast?
But surely you can identify as gay and then that means it’s all ok
GROOMERS
Sex is *EVERYTHING* for them. No other character of their personality is important. This man is obsessed with sex and doesn't care about any other aspects of a person. Sickening
Benjamin's almost predictable stance regarding contentious sexuality and identity issues makes him such an Interesting and valuable contributor. He's intelligent as well as infuriating, which I find quite endearing.
He's intelligent? oh dear I feel sorry for you.
A bit confused Tom cruise and John Travolta have played many straight men acting roles!
How about a film about the prophet Mohamed..give the role to a gay man.....then sit back & watch the kick off
Oh Butterworth, the eternal man baby. IT'S CALLED ACTING! And several gay actors who are out have played a variety of roles, gay and straight, by saying only they can play gay roles because they are gay in real life will basically limit their roles. And let's face it Neil Patrick Harris and Matt Bomer are both so extremely talented, it would be a waste them only being able to play gay, because if only they can play gay, then only straight actors should play straight roles. Butterworth as usual just showing how utterly one sided he is.
That Benjamin Button does my swede right in
It is a case of the mustache and the soup arguing that the other should be removed.
BB is merely a wind up merchant.
Well I suspect that homosexuals abound in the acting fraternity, on the other hand finding a heterosexual in that group might be more difficult. But that's just my opinion.
It's a foolish idea anyhow.
No gay actor can ever EVER play straight. They have to portray themselves and nothing more
Fully agree, but that means only straights for straight roles 😂😂
What does a gay person know about being straight?
Ask the people who turned gay as they got older.
@@martynblackburn9632 So why should a perceived straight person not play a gay role? They may not have made it public. Are you advocating employment due to your sexual preferences and of what business is that to anyone!
And of course they wouldn't want it across the whole spectrum of identity characteristics?????
But seriously, what about the dinosaurs, unicorns and dodos?
By Benjamin's "niche lived experience" logic, only poor people should be cast to play poor characters. Cops should play cops. Serial killers should play serial killers. Prostitutes should play prostitutes. Princesses should play princesses. Etc, etc. Does he actually understand what it means to be an actor?
Also, how does he know that prominent gay roles weren't offered to gay actors but they turned them down because they didn't want to be typecast in those kinds of roles? He can't just assume why straight actors were cast in those roles.
There is no "lgbtqi+++xyz community".
Thepeople who bring these points are so up there own a**e Actine is acting,, it shows a great actor to play assorted rolls.
Bros, a gay film directed by a gay man with a gay cast, completely tanked. Maybe if a well-known straight actor was cast it wouldn’t have been such a failure.
But what if you’re a straight actor and come out as gay after?
So with their logic. Straight roles can only be played by straight people. British roles can only be played by British actors and female roles can only be played by biological female.
What about the gay actor who plays straight Daniel in Coronation Street then?
For once I agree with Benjamin, I don’t understand why a straight person would want to play a gay actor anyway :/
Only homosexual actors should take on homosexual roles..............why do some people find this version offensive?