Miami heat fan here, Jimmy butler’s time with the heat has been legendary. Like kenny said, people will downplay it because we didnt win a ring, but we were NOT supposed to make it to 2 finals. Butler turning into prime michael jordan got us there.
@@lixdy8828how is he overrated? He lead a mid team to the finals twice. Not saying it was all him, but he was one of the main reasons(especially in 2020)
Dragic’s play during that first run is going way overlooked. Bro was the leading scorer before Jimmy went crazy against the Lakers. Jimmy also didn’t play the greatest during the Celtics during their last finals run. His teammates + coaching are going overlooked.
@@lixdy8828 again he's kind of stagnated recently you're tripping though dude literally had some of the most efficient heat playoff performance's ever...
U right about how Front Offices look at us fans like we fools. We know Shams aint just gonna post something so significant unless he spoke to multiple sources on the player side. Keep up the good work my boyy 🔥
@askefn They're a product of Miami Heat Talent pipeline & development from G-Leage affiliate Skyforce to Miami Heat. They've been building this since Bron left to bring in young talent without using Draft picks. We've had success from Hassan Whiteside to Duncan Robinson. They will be good for a long time 💯
Heat fan here. This all comes down to the front office for the entire Jimmy Butler era for not choosing a direction and remain complacent till the end. In terms of assets they have done nothing ,outside of draftin well, to improve the roster. They should have traded Jimmy this offseason if they knew 2 seasons ago they weren't going to extend him. Instead they put external pressure on this team for no reason.
As a Heat fan, it’s heartbreaking that it got to this point. The FO has a lot of blame but so does Jimmy in these last couple years. A lot of the players we swing and missed on, we realistically didn’t have a chance to even get based on the package that the players eventually got moved for. The only exceptions being Beal, Harden, and Dame ( one of which we are better off not having gotten and another one we didn’t even really get a chance to put in a second offer for). So realistically a “whale hunting” front office with little to no draft capital and only really having talented known commodities this year wasn’t gonna get that done. Jimmy has taken a lot of time off the last 2 years and if he were healthy come playoff time it’d be fine but last year he got hurt right before the playoffs, and this year he’s playing even worse when he is playing and uninterested. I hope he does get moved or the team gives him some time away because his vibe is definitely dragging down the rest of the team, but I will always appreciate what he brought to our franchise. Finally I don’t think we’re as bad as people think we are outside of Jimmy this year. We have 6 good players ranging from rotation/starter/borderline all star caliber that are all 27 or younger and are no longer just Undrafted guys.
Heat fan and Jimmy is my favourite player of all time: I will miss him dearly, I respect the decision of both parties, but I hope they don't force a trade, and I really want kuminga or cap spaces and picks. I hope that this relationship heals with time as jimmy deserves his number retired.
@808bboarder Wait, she’s currently pregnant and he’s not the father???? Or she had the kid a while back and he helping? Or you just talking out yo ass?
As a Heat fan, it sucks that it’s ending this way but I’m glad we’re choosing a lane for once. Honestly, he should’ve been traded back when we made those Finals runs (maybe not 2020, but after losing to the Nuggets). Everyone the public wanted us to get hasn’t been great. Minus DMitchell and Lillard. And I’m sure the FO tried, clearly all the reporting out of Portland was that they didn’t want to trade him to Miami. If we re-signed Jimmy, we’d look at it in two years wondering why the FO gave $50M+ to an aging guy, similar to the way we view PG right now. It’s understandable to be frustrated with the lack of moves, even middle-tier ones, but also understand that we were playing two timelines which never made sense. This is a perfect jumping point to switch to the Bam/Herro timeline and go heavy developing Ware, JJJ, Jovic, Pelle, Keshad, etc. An ideal scenario would be flipping Butler for Kuminga or even a 3-team deal with Fox. But look at what the cap relief and flexibility did for the Clippers. Tough to see him go. But ready for the next era now. Especially with his tantrums and play on the court.
You could really make these your own podcast episodes like how kenny got small ball. We love listening to your standalone talks about current basketball topics
Pat Riley is the Jerry Jones of the NBA. Ego has ruined his late career after it was inflated from tons of success. There’s a part of me that wonders if Pat doesn’t trade him simply on principle, and if that happens, the Heat are absolutely cooked.
@ he’s the third best player in franchise history behind Wade and fucking LeBron, what are you talking about? Losing Jimmy for nothing would be terrible for this franchise. He’s the only reason the Heat haven’t been a bottom feeder for the last decade now.
Idk if it would work but I’d love to see Jimmy in GS. Steph/hield/jimmy/dray is something that could be real fun for the next season or two. Jimmy fits the Steph timeline as well. Again idk if it is the best choice for GS but they need to get curry some help.
as a heat fan jimmy is arguably the 2nd best player in franchise history even though he didn’t get a ring so it sucks that it’s gonna end ugly but i hope we can still get a good package for him
There’s accountability to be taken on both sides: The FO did not manage assets properly which strapped us in attempts to buy in on other stars. They attached themselves to guys who “overachieved” with no return once they departed. Meanwhile Jimmy (rightfully so) wants an extension, but the reality is he is aging and periodically unavailable. Though I don’t agree with the ‘how’, I agree with Pat’s sentiments in wanting Jimmy available in the same way he requested of Tyler too. Just hate to see it unfold this way.
If the Grizz get involved for Jimmy, the Lakers absolutely need to get involved so they can get more young, athletic players or maybe a big that would be in the trade
Love Memphis Marcus Smart literally doesn't play having that wing experience will help them vs those tougher Western matchups perfect match imo the development can only get you so far it's time for them to make a deep run and who better than Butler
Heat fan here. Not frustrated with team FO. JB picked the Heat because he knew he could dominate the team in 2020. He is no longer the dominant player on this team. Remember, he said ‘he wants to dominate again’. He doesn’t care if they win. As long as the story is always about him. He is Himmy. Narcissistic Personality Disorder always ends badly. JB is not a max player. Never was. The Heat overpaid at the 2021 JB extension. Had they not, this Himmy meltdown happens in 2022.
Miami is my favorite team I became a fan when Lebron lost to the Mavs and told us we're broke, Jimmys tenure has for sure been my fav and if he wants out for that mega contract then I with him he gave us peak basketball and moments
Butler is the one to blame here he wants an extension but only plays in the playoffs he's always injured not a team player the last 3 seasons its his broken down body
What if De'Aaron Fox says he wants to go play with Bam in Miami? Fox + salary filler (Trey Lyles and Colby Jones for example) to Miami; Butler goes to the Suns; Beal goes to Kings (one of his original destinations prior to going to Phx). Kings also get three Miami 1st round picks, and the Suns only available 1st round pick. Suns get a better fit going from Beal to Butler, Miami gets their PG of the future who's already close with Bam from college, Kings get FOUR 1st rnd picks, and decent player (when he's available) on a shitty contract in Beal. Maybe the Kings say Miami has to take back DeMar, in which case Miami needs to send out Kel'el Ware + Haywood Highsmith to make room for DeMar and Fox.
Not a terrible idea in theory but I'm pretty sure Beal wanted the Kings to play with Fox. If Fox isn't there he has no incentive to accept the deal. It also doesn't take into consideration the unlikeliness of Sacramento to be willing to accept tax penalties to help 2 other teams complete a trade. Fox is also essentially an expiring contract which does decrease his value a bit. Lastly the Heat can't take back more money and the Suns can't either so a 3 team deal with these 3 just would have too many moving pieces.
Mavs would have to do a 4 for 1 trade to make it work Pacers wouldnt do it this year but maybe after the season when Nembhard's money kicks in and they can actually get to the right amount needed Hawks have the salaries to make it work Teams i see that could theoretically make it work are the Hawks, Pistons (doesnt make sense to me), Grizzlies, Rockets and Spurs. No other teams really are competitive enough to consider it and have the ability to make the move.
As a die hard Grizzlies fans i would give up BC and Jalylen Wells for Jimmy.. and i love BC and Wells. If the Grizzlies get Playoff Jimmy.... we fkn terrifying
Heat Fan the mindset of Pat Riley just confuses me of who he does and does not choose to pay. Is Jimmy Butler aging getting a big contract ideal absolutely not but at the same time we didn’t pay Dwyane Wade we give guys like Duncan Robinson, Tyler, Johnson, and Hassan Whiteside huge deals. I just don’t understand.
P. My brother in christ there is no way in hell the rockets give cam whitmore for a 35 year old jimmy butler. I say this as a rockets fan so im biased but even being objective the heat are cooked with this jimmy situation because i dont think any team really wants him apart from maybe the suns. The second apron makes teams really cautious when acquiring large contracts, it ruins their flexibility if things dont work out
So sad, gave me so much joy after those years of Wade leaving. He’s made to look like the villain, but look at all the years where he did the most with the least and never complained. He asked for players behind closed doors and they continued to fail him. They could never make me hate him, Pat Riley pushed another franchise goat out because of his pride. Hope to see him win one wherever he goes.
butler was being a diva. the reports wouldn't shut up about Butler wanting a trade so i would be annoyed as well if i was in rileys role. butler is toxic and doesnt deserve the money he is looking for
@@lajuan9860Dumbass take. Breakups are tough, Jimmy had to do what he did to get off the team but in the long run it’s best for both… that doesn’t change the fact that he was a legendary player for them for five seasons
Pat are going to do what is best for the Heat thank god ...... now since i said that we dont need no trash player with a bad contract it is not going to happen.. rather have him walk for free or sign and trade when he a FA and it frees up 51m for us yea we are not in a rush to trade him. the heat have all the power to do what they want
dont listen to this guy lol he just said Smart , luke and other trash player for jimmy lol WHY would the heat even do this ?? how do u have 57k subs just talking out your ass worst then epsn holly shit they said beal for butler JESUS
@@trejoelskii he wanted klow and he got him . pat tried getting dame. Portland didnt want tyler now they look stupid for not taking him and the heat package...... rozier was the other person we couldve gotten for Klow and it was a mistake taking him he trash
Do you watch him play? 15/7 with defensive impact, can stretch the floor and is very underated at making plays off ball to get his guys open shots. Of course he's going to be paid, Indy aren't going to make a splash at the Centre position.
@@lewis1658damn bro thank you I seen his bs pop up and was going to get on his ass. He’s a box score type of guy and probably don’t even watch Indy games and that’s fine a casual will be a casual 🤷♂️ Let’s just act like Myles Turner isn’t the all time blocks leader in Pacers history and one of the best 3 point shooting bigs in the league especially at the top of the damn key. The team just doesn’t flow right without MT33
Why would any team want a toxic dude like butler? Its funny when jimmy was doing this with other teams it was never jimmys fault but now he does it with the heat and people are finally realizing hes toxic because they dont wanna blame Pat Riley
As a Memphis fan jimmy is exactly what we need. If we can get jimmy and send away smart, luke, castleton along with a 2nd in a 3 way trade we will be even more of a championship contender
The only flaw in this whole video. You are completely wrong about the Miami heat organization. They don't tank. They want to always be in the window of competing for championships.
Im just cool off the blame game, the Jimmy era is done. It was fun. It used to be Dion we were hoping would help us. hank god for edibles cause who knows where wed be. Ready for the next era man
bro acting like jimmy left cuz the heat not good enough instead of cuz of money? touch grass. you were gifted a jimmy trade request. we will go further than the knicks in the playoffs without jimmy bozo
Jimmy Butler and the Miami Heat are the textbook definition of Fools Gold, and every Miami Heat fan, beat writer, sports journalist, and columnist fell for the honeytrap. Butler had two legendary runs to the Finals and had all y’all thinking he was God and you chose to overlook every red flag that he was showing you (coasting through the regular season, not showing any effort, banking on his potential to “turn the switch on” come playoff time cuz it’s PLAYOFF JIMMY)-and now that the mask is falling off, you decide to act surprised when y’all enabled this behavior from him in the first place!!!?? What a trash organization this Miami Heat franchise is wow 🗑
Jimmy Butler is such a diva. what happened to this league full of players that when they dont get their money make it a point to leave on a bad note. can this dude just shut up and play basketball and when the time comes he can then negotiate. i hope paul george getting such a big contract and playing so ass scares teams away from committing big money for these aging and diva players cause its kind of funny how these players can just force a trade when they feel like it.
It’s always seemed odd that Jimmy, Spo, Pat Riley and Bam all get pretty unanimous praise for their greatness and skills yet Miami is in the state it is.
I hate being that guy that sounds like an old head screaming at the clouds, but I absolutely hate how jimmy has handled all of this. The definition of a diva
bro just wanted the bag, can’t fault him for acting/feeling like that after what he he’s done for the team, obviously wish he dealt with it differently but who are we to say, it’s just how heat culture operates
The first half of this video is pretty disingenuous because you are basically saying the Heat are playing bad which they aren't Jimmy hasn't been available/checked out this whole season and yet in spite of that the Heat are 6th seed and top 15 in offense rating and top 10 in offensive rating Tyler Herro is having an all star season in spite of Jimmy Butler being checked out the Heat aren't as bad as you making them out to be. We appreciate everything Jimmy has done but if he doesn't want to be here traded him get decent players some picks and move on it ain't that deep.
@@SneakerGod22 send the time stamp of me saying “the Heat are playing bad”. Everything I said is a fact. Where the Heat are isn’t where they or Jimmy want to be. No way as a Heat fan your content with being a 7th/8th seed constantly year in year out. There’s no way that’s the goal. Because if it was there would be literally no issues. Fandom don’t change reality no matter how biased you choose to be.
@@Peeweedaplugfirst I said "basically bad" implying that play in is what they are destined for. I can be objective even as a fan we don't know what can be yet. But just saying a play in situation is eminent like there isn't a chance for the Heat go on a run and win few games actually wild. The younger player are developing and have shown flashes Bam's play will eventually get back to its normal level. I'm not saying they are contenders depending on what they get from the Jimmy traded they can be one of the 6 playoff teams.
@@SneakerGod22 yeah I guess it’s a agree to disagree thing because I think the opposite. I think them being destined for the play in is the issue. To them that’s not success. Tyler Herro is the only guy you can say is showing anything. Jovic who I love is having the same season pretty much as last year. Jaime isn’t having the same year at all. Ware has one game with 20+ mins. This team was in the finals not that long ago. I believe everyone is disappointed that it now seems that they’re far away from that. While conferences rivals have done the opposite.
@ see I agree with that FO took what Jimmy did for granted. I think that play in run to the finals made FO believe their way is working. Relying on undrafted talent building like that just doesn't work any more especially when top of east is so talented. You need talent and Heat simply don't have enough of it to contend for championship. If I'm being honest the Heat didn't have enough talent the year they went to the finals. But it was a helluva run though.
Trade that greedy lazy washed player to the wizards or jazz! Pat teach that guy a lesson about a binding contract agreement! He's body's broken down hes a Nissan Sentra to Lebron's Lexus in terms of Physical stregth & stamina..he will destroy any team he plays when he doesn't get what he wants Big O is correct about him
Miami heat fan here,
Jimmy butler’s time with the heat has been legendary. Like kenny said, people will downplay it because we didnt win a ring, but we were NOT supposed to make it to 2 finals. Butler turning into prime michael jordan got us there.
Overrated player
@@lixdy8828how is he overrated? He lead a mid team to the finals twice. Not saying it was all him, but he was one of the main reasons(especially in 2020)
Dragic’s play during that first run is going way overlooked. Bro was the leading scorer before Jimmy went crazy against the Lakers. Jimmy also didn’t play the greatest during the Celtics during their last finals run. His teammates + coaching are going overlooked.
@@lixdy8828 again he's kind of stagnated recently you're tripping though dude literally had some of the most efficient heat playoff performance's ever...
STOP with the MJ crap lmaoo
If I’m the Minnesota Timberwolves I am ringing the phone off the hook. They have to find a way to get Julius Randle off that team
Might not be any better than last time he was on the T-Wolves though
@@jackviglianco6907 two totally different teams bro, Ant needs that veteran leader
@@jackviglianco6907he had a problem with Kat and Wiggins both no there now
Their a second apron team so unfortunately unless they trade Gobert, they can't make it work
they getting jimmy for one year and he’s gone if that he hated minnesota 😭
U right about how Front Offices look at us fans like we fools. We know Shams aint just gonna post something so significant unless he spoke to multiple sources on the player side. Keep up the good work my boyy 🔥
Riley is coasting off of this Heat Culture media narrative. What moves did he make to give Jimmy real help?
He has herro and bam. It’s not crazy to say that’s a good no. 2 and no. 3. If Jimmy would play better they could maybe do sum
@@kuzmathegoat7197most of the role players tho have been pure luck.
@askefn They're a product of Miami Heat Talent pipeline & development from G-Leage affiliate Skyforce to Miami Heat. They've been building this since Bron left to bring in young talent without using Draft picks. We've had success from Hassan Whiteside to Duncan Robinson. They will be good for a long time 💯
@@playlisthitmaker9913still haven’t paid off
@@kuzmathegoat7197bruh stop do y’all really be watching the games fr
Haven't watch in a couple months, i think the camera angle and light are alot better !! GOOD SHIT P
Heat fan here. This all comes down to the front office for the entire Jimmy Butler era for not choosing a direction and remain complacent till the end. In terms of assets they have done nothing ,outside of draftin well, to improve the roster. They should have traded Jimmy this offseason if they knew 2 seasons ago they weren't going to extend him. Instead they put external pressure on this team for no reason.
As a Heat fan, it’s heartbreaking that it got to this point. The FO has a lot of blame but so does Jimmy in these last couple years. A lot of the players we swing and missed on, we realistically didn’t have a chance to even get based on the package that the players eventually got moved for. The only exceptions being Beal, Harden, and Dame ( one of which we are better off not having gotten and another one we didn’t even really get a chance to put in a second offer for). So realistically a “whale hunting” front office with little to no draft capital and only really having talented known commodities this year wasn’t gonna get that done. Jimmy has taken a lot of time off the last 2 years and if he were healthy come playoff time it’d be fine but last year he got hurt right before the playoffs, and this year he’s playing even worse when he is playing and uninterested. I hope he does get moved or the team gives him some time away because his vibe is definitely dragging down the rest of the team, but I will always appreciate what he brought to our franchise. Finally I don’t think we’re as bad as people think we are outside of Jimmy this year. We have 6 good players ranging from rotation/starter/borderline all star caliber that are all 27 or younger and are no longer just Undrafted guys.
Kyrie, and Mitchell?
@ I’ll give you Kyrie, Mitch was traded for way more picks than we held control of at the time.
Thankyou for your service J.B🔥💪, that 8 seeded run was just
🔥👌, should've atleast got one🤧
Heat fan and Jimmy is my favourite player of all time:
I will miss him dearly, I respect the decision of both parties, but I hope they don't force a trade, and I really want kuminga or cap spaces and picks. I hope that this relationship heals with time as jimmy deserves his number retired.
Favorite RUclipsr fr, you and the Fuzzins
Congrats P on you and Dana pregnancy
whaaa when did he say this ?
For real !!??
Pee ain’t the father but he stepping up to be dad which is awesome
@808bboarder Wait, she’s currently pregnant and he’s not the father???? Or she had the kid a while back and he helping? Or you just talking out yo ass?
@@kngdreezy337 His girl had a kid but not sure if they announced something recently
As a Heat fan, it sucks that it’s ending this way but I’m glad we’re choosing a lane for once. Honestly, he should’ve been traded back when we made those Finals runs (maybe not 2020, but after losing to the Nuggets).
Everyone the public wanted us to get hasn’t been great. Minus DMitchell and Lillard. And I’m sure the FO tried, clearly all the reporting out of Portland was that they didn’t want to trade him to Miami. If we re-signed Jimmy, we’d look at it in two years wondering why the FO gave $50M+ to an aging guy, similar to the way we view PG right now.
It’s understandable to be frustrated with the lack of moves, even middle-tier ones, but also understand that we were playing two timelines which never made sense. This is a perfect jumping point to switch to the Bam/Herro timeline and go heavy developing Ware, JJJ, Jovic, Pelle, Keshad, etc.
An ideal scenario would be flipping Butler for Kuminga or even a 3-team deal with Fox. But look at what the cap relief and flexibility did for the Clippers.
Tough to see him go. But ready for the next era now. Especially with his tantrums and play on the court.
You could really make these your own podcast episodes like how kenny got small ball. We love listening to your standalone talks about current basketball topics
He used to have one called The Heliocentric.
Pat Riley is the Jerry Jones of the NBA. Ego has ruined his late career after it was inflated from tons of success. There’s a part of me that wonders if Pat doesn’t trade him simply on principle, and if that happens, the Heat are absolutely cooked.
Cooked? Is Jimmy Jordan? Foh. We’ll be fine! Jimmy ain’t a needle mover like that!!
@ he’s the third best player in franchise history behind Wade and fucking LeBron, what are you talking about? Losing Jimmy for nothing would be terrible for this franchise. He’s the only reason the Heat haven’t been a bottom feeder for the last decade now.
@@AntcmbHeatheat ain’t going nowhere be for real be realistic
@@AntonioDavisJr we will be just fine without Jimmy Butler. To think we just go suck is crazy!
Riley accomplished more as GM than most GM rn. Saying hes ruining his career this late is like saying Jordan was wasting his in the Wizards
Idk if it would work but I’d love to see Jimmy in GS. Steph/hield/jimmy/dray is something that could be real fun for the next season or two. Jimmy fits the Steph timeline as well. Again idk if it is the best choice for GS but they need to get curry some help.
as a heat fan jimmy is arguably the 2nd best player in franchise history even though he didn’t get a ring so it sucks that it’s gonna end ugly but i hope we can still get a good package for him
Not even close to #2
@@takoda100 you can have your opinion
@@fgejayden and you can be delusional. Wade, Bron, bosh, shaq, zo come on now 😂😂
@@fgejayden Bron, Wade, bosh, zo, Shaq 🥱
There’s accountability to be taken on both sides:
The FO did not manage assets properly which strapped us in attempts to buy in on other stars. They attached themselves to guys who “overachieved” with no return once they departed.
Meanwhile Jimmy (rightfully so) wants an extension, but the reality is he is aging and periodically unavailable. Though I don’t agree with the ‘how’, I agree with Pat’s sentiments in wanting Jimmy available in the same way he requested of Tyler too.
Just hate to see it unfold this way.
Jimmy butler playing bad rn and the Miami Heat FO not getting him help are to blame.
If the Grizz get involved for Jimmy, the Lakers absolutely need to get involved so they can get more young, athletic players or maybe a big that would be in the trade
when we gettin a NOTB behind the scenes peewee😞
Hed be great in Minney Ant called his teammates out. Jimmy and Ant would be a great duo.
I’ll be honest I’m not the biggest fan of Jimmy to my grizzlies just personality wise and definitely don’t want to give up GG
The Memphis YNs don’t have the skin to deal with a grown ass man like Jimmy
Watching this after news released of him being suspended. They need to let that man go
Love Memphis Marcus Smart literally doesn't play having that wing experience will help them vs those tougher Western matchups perfect match imo the development can only get you so far it's time for them to make a deep run and who better than Butler
Heat fan here. Not frustrated with team FO. JB picked the Heat because he knew he could dominate the team in 2020. He is no longer the dominant player on this team. Remember, he said ‘he wants to dominate again’. He doesn’t care if they win. As long as the story is always about him. He is Himmy. Narcissistic Personality Disorder always ends badly. JB is not a max player. Never was. The Heat overpaid at the 2021 JB extension. Had they not, this Himmy meltdown happens in 2022.
aaron wiggins, lu dort, isaiah joe and their 2025 1st round pick back Mr. Presti make the call
lmfao hell nah
NO
Miami is my favorite team I became a fan when Lebron lost to the Mavs and told us we're broke, Jimmys tenure has for sure been my fav and if he wants out for that mega contract then I with him he gave us peak basketball and moments
Terance Mann to Warriors
Moody, Podziemski and Lindy Waters to the Clippers
People really don’t believe that “running” (emphasis on the quotes) Shaq out of town was a mistake do they?
The suns need Jimmy, and Jimmy needs KD and Book. Please let this trade happen
Off topic, but that Sweatshirt is 🔥. “Strawberry Jams, But My Glock Don’t”
Butler is the one to blame here he wants an extension but only plays in the playoffs he's always injured not a team player the last 3 seasons its his broken down body
What model is that punisher statue?
What if De'Aaron Fox says he wants to go play with Bam in Miami? Fox + salary filler (Trey Lyles and Colby Jones for example) to Miami; Butler goes to the Suns; Beal goes to Kings (one of his original destinations prior to going to Phx). Kings also get three Miami 1st round picks, and the Suns only available 1st round pick. Suns get a better fit going from Beal to Butler, Miami gets their PG of the future who's already close with Bam from college, Kings get FOUR 1st rnd picks, and decent player (when he's available) on a shitty contract in Beal. Maybe the Kings say Miami has to take back DeMar, in which case Miami needs to send out Kel'el Ware + Haywood Highsmith to make room for DeMar and Fox.
Not a terrible idea in theory but I'm pretty sure Beal wanted the Kings to play with Fox. If Fox isn't there he has no incentive to accept the deal. It also doesn't take into consideration the unlikeliness of Sacramento to be willing to accept tax penalties to help 2 other teams complete a trade. Fox is also essentially an expiring contract which does decrease his value a bit. Lastly the Heat can't take back more money and the Suns can't either so a 3 team deal with these 3 just would have too many moving pieces.
I like the Memphis idea especially if they can’t get cam outta Brooklyn
Jimmy to PHX confirmed ✅
Nah it makes literally zero sense. Who is Miami going to get? Bradley Beal? 😂😂😂 how is that even okay for Miami??
Mavs would have to do a 4 for 1 trade to make it work
Pacers wouldnt do it this year but maybe after the season when Nembhard's money kicks in and they can actually get to the right amount needed
Hawks have the salaries to make it work
Teams i see that could theoretically make it work are the Hawks, Pistons (doesnt make sense to me), Grizzlies, Rockets and Spurs. No other teams really are competitive enough to consider it and have the ability to make the move.
I think Jimmy is a warrior, I don’t think it fixes anything for them tho
They'd have to give up too much to get him. It doesn't make a ton of sense for them when considering what they'd have to give up.
As a die hard Grizzlies fans i would give up BC and Jalylen Wells for Jimmy.. and i love BC and Wells. If the Grizzlies get Playoff Jimmy.... we fkn terrifying
It all went downhill after herro was thrown like a sack of potatoes 😢
Heat Fan the mindset of Pat Riley just confuses me of who he does and does not choose to pay. Is Jimmy Butler aging getting a big contract ideal absolutely not but at the same time we didn’t pay Dwyane Wade we give guys like Duncan Robinson, Tyler, Johnson, and Hassan Whiteside huge deals. I just don’t understand.
i feel like the audio was very quiet in this video
Jimmy is such a sun
P. My brother in christ there is no way in hell the rockets give cam whitmore for a 35 year old jimmy butler. I say this as a rockets fan so im biased but even being objective the heat are cooked with this jimmy situation because i dont think any team really wants him apart from maybe the suns. The second apron makes teams really cautious when acquiring large contracts, it ruins their flexibility if things dont work out
P hit the Lil Wayne in the beginning 😂
U funny af bruh 🤣🤣
As a Memphis fan I don’t want Jimmy
oh my gosh!! 😮😲
So sad, gave me so much joy after those years of Wade leaving. He’s made to look like the villain, but look at all the years where he did the most with the least and never complained. He asked for players behind closed doors and they continued to fail him. They could never make me hate him, Pat Riley pushed another franchise goat out because of his pride. Hope to see him win one wherever he goes.
butler was being a diva. the reports wouldn't shut up about Butler wanting a trade so i would be annoyed as well if i was in rileys role. butler is toxic and doesnt deserve the money he is looking for
@@lajuan9860Dumbass take. Breakups are tough, Jimmy had to do what he did to get off the team but in the long run it’s best for both… that doesn’t change the fact that he was a legendary player for them for five seasons
Warriors probably have the best assets for Jimmy
Kuminga and others
Even though Jimmy doesn’t fulfill the 25 points the warriors are lacking .
Please don’t send him to Atlanta, I want Jalen Johnson to cook
SELL THE DAMN TEAM! I quit.
Need a new Bulls series video !!
You should’ve waited a few hours to post this 💀
Pat are going to do what is best for the Heat thank god ...... now since i said that we dont need no trash player with a bad contract it is not going to happen.. rather have him walk for free or sign and trade when he a FA and it frees up 51m for us yea we are not in a rush to trade him. the heat have all the power to do what they want
dont listen to this guy lol he just said Smart , luke and other trash player for jimmy lol WHY would the heat even do this ?? how do u have 57k subs just talking out your ass worst then epsn holly shit they said beal for butler JESUS
if pat wanted to do what was best for the heat he would’ve got jimmy help
@@trejoelskii he got jimmy the players jimmy wanted. pat tried
@@guscards8515 ahh yes bc jimmy wanted rozier n klow over dame
@@trejoelskii he wanted klow and he got him . pat tried getting dame. Portland didnt want tyler now they look stupid for not taking him and the heat package...... rozier was the other person we couldve gotten for Klow and it was a mistake taking him he trash
HORNETS HORNETS HORNETS😫😫😫
Get Bridges off this team no matter what!
Which team would be interesting with jimmy?
13:23 Pay Myles Turner for what ?? Bro 7 feet tall and grabs the same amount of rebounds as Josh Giddey 😂
Do you watch him play? 15/7 with defensive impact, can stretch the floor and is very underated at making plays off ball to get his guys open shots. Of course he's going to be paid, Indy aren't going to make a splash at the Centre position.
@@lewis1658damn bro thank you I seen his bs pop up and was going to get on his ass. He’s a box score type of guy and probably don’t even watch Indy games and that’s fine a casual will be a casual 🤷♂️ Let’s just act like Myles Turner isn’t the all time blocks leader in Pacers history and one of the best 3 point shooting bigs in the league especially at the top of the damn key. The team just doesn’t flow right without MT33
@@jojofinesse2310you typed all that just for me to say this.. pacers ain’t won shit EVER 😂
Why would any team want a toxic dude like butler? Its funny when jimmy was doing this with other teams it was never jimmys fault but now he does it with the heat and people are finally realizing hes toxic because they dont wanna blame Pat Riley
Vi can see the lakers trying to bring n butler to pair him with LeBron and ad
i dont think its fair to compare Jimmy's tenure with pat riley to bron/wade/shaq, THOSE teams all won championships
hear me out, jimmy for zion
Jimmy for book fuck it
Why do you put this on mirror mode? It takes all my attention away from you, trying to read everything backwards.
THJ, Tobias and jaden ivey for jimmy
Jaiden Macdan for Jimmy? Is that possible
Oof. Bruh, dont confuse informed for intelligence. World of difference. Everything else on point tho 💯
Jimmy to grizzlies could be nice
Jimmy to Bucks or Portland.
As a Memphis fan jimmy is exactly what we need. If we can get jimmy and send away smart, luke, castleton along with a 2nd in a 3 way trade we will be even more of a championship contender
The only flaw in this whole video. You are completely wrong about the Miami heat organization. They don't tank. They want to always be in the window of competing for championships.
spurs would be fun
Buttler 4 Beal
Jimmy Butler is going to retire at the end of season
Im just cool off the blame game, the Jimmy era is done. It was fun. It used to be Dion we were hoping would help us. hank god for edibles cause who knows where wed be. Ready for the next era man
When was Dion considered the face of the franchise?
@StevenHughes-hr5hp The dog days when we were relying on brody to get buckets.
Heat want kuminga.
bro acting like jimmy left cuz the heat not good enough instead of cuz of money? touch grass. you were gifted a jimmy trade request.
we will go further than the knicks in the playoffs without jimmy bozo
Jimmy Butler and the Miami Heat are the textbook definition of Fools Gold, and every Miami Heat fan, beat writer, sports journalist, and columnist fell for the honeytrap. Butler had two legendary runs to the Finals and had all y’all thinking he was God and you chose to overlook every red flag that he was showing you (coasting through the regular season, not showing any effort, banking on his potential to “turn the switch on” come playoff time cuz it’s PLAYOFF JIMMY)-and now that the mask is falling off, you decide to act surprised when y’all enabled this behavior from him in the first place!!!?? What a trash organization this Miami Heat franchise is wow 🗑
Jimmy Butler is such a diva. what happened to this league full of players that when they dont get their money make it a point to leave on a bad note. can this dude just shut up and play basketball and when the time comes he can then negotiate. i hope paul george getting such a big contract and playing so ass scares teams away from committing big money for these aging and diva players cause its kind of funny how these players can just force a trade when they feel like it.
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Pat Riley needs to retire man its been enough
I rather have sleeping Pat Riley than Rob Pelinka with a AI chip in his brain
It’s always seemed odd that Jimmy, Spo, Pat Riley and Bam all get pretty unanimous praise for their greatness and skills yet Miami is in the state it is.
I hate being that guy that sounds like an old head screaming at the clouds, but I absolutely hate how jimmy has handled all of this. The definition of a diva
There been worse
he handled this pretty well imo
bro just wanted the bag, can’t fault him for acting/feeling like that after what he he’s done for the team, obviously wish he dealt with it differently but who are we to say, it’s just how heat culture operates
@ it’s how any good organization would operate, giving him another deal at this age isn’t worth it
@@levicoker8937 doesn’t mean they should be talking shit
Okc
The first half of this video is pretty disingenuous because you are basically saying the Heat are playing bad which they aren't Jimmy hasn't been available/checked out this whole season and yet in spite of that the Heat are 6th seed and top 15 in offense rating and top 10 in offensive rating Tyler Herro is having an all star season in spite of Jimmy Butler being checked out the Heat aren't as bad as you making them out to be. We appreciate everything Jimmy has done but if he doesn't want to be here traded him get decent players some picks and move on it ain't that deep.
@@SneakerGod22 send the time stamp of me saying “the Heat are playing bad”. Everything I said is a fact. Where the Heat are isn’t where they or Jimmy want to be. No way as a Heat fan your content with being a 7th/8th seed constantly year in year out. There’s no way that’s the goal. Because if it was there would be literally no issues. Fandom don’t change reality no matter how biased you choose to be.
@@Peeweedaplugfirst I said "basically bad" implying that play in is what they are destined for. I can be objective even as a fan we don't know what can be yet. But just saying a play in situation is eminent like there isn't a chance for the Heat go on a run and win few games actually wild. The younger player are developing and have shown flashes Bam's play will eventually get back to its normal level. I'm not saying they are contenders depending on what they get from the Jimmy traded they can be one of the 6 playoff teams.
@@SneakerGod22 yeah I guess it’s a agree to disagree thing because I think the opposite. I think them being destined for the play in is the issue. To them that’s not success. Tyler Herro is the only guy you can say is showing anything. Jovic who I love is having the same season pretty much as last year. Jaime isn’t having the same year at all. Ware has one game with 20+ mins. This team was in the finals not that long ago. I believe everyone is disappointed that it now seems that they’re far away from that. While conferences rivals have done the opposite.
@ see I agree with that FO took what Jimmy did for granted. I think that play in run to the finals made FO believe their way is working. Relying on undrafted talent building like that just doesn't work any more especially when top of east is so talented. You need talent and Heat simply don't have enough of it to contend for championship. If I'm being honest the Heat didn't have enough talent the year they went to the finals. But it was a helluva run though.
@@Peeweedaplugyou literally said they are a bad team. ay dw bro keep the same energy when we boot the knicks ass in the playoffs
just like last time
Trade that greedy lazy washed player to the wizards or jazz! Pat teach that guy a lesson about a binding contract agreement! He's body's broken down hes a Nissan Sentra to Lebron's Lexus in terms of Physical stregth & stamina..he will destroy any team he plays when he doesn't get what he wants Big O is correct about him
Jimmy to Portland for Jerami Grant and Deni Avdija 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Trade Jimmy to Brooklyn for Ben Simmons
Nets fans don't want Jimmy.