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  • Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
  • Bungie just revealed all of the Buffs and Nerfs to Weapons within the new Destiny 2 Final Shape DLC! We have Fan-Favorite Weapons and Exotics catching some Big Nerfs!
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    New #destiny2 video, going over the New Destiny 2 Sandbox update Developer Insights article just before the new TWAB coming on May 16th that released after the Destiny 2: Into the Light free DLC during the new Destiny 2 Season of the Wish! This is just after the Destiny 2 Showcase and the full reveal of the new Final Shape Expansion in Destiny 2! The new Lightfall DLC is here! It provides a new campaign, new weapons, new exotic quests, and so much more! We have the latest Lightfall updates and news, the Root of Nightmares Raid! We have all 3 new Strand subclasses (Broodweaver Warlock, Berserker Titan, Threadrunner Hunter) as well as new Strand Aspects and Fragments to use in new Strand Builds!
    Destiny 2: Season of the Wish (Season 23) is live! Featuring the new Warlord's Ruin Dungeon, "Riven's Lair" and "The Coil" New Activities, New Wish Weapons, New Undying Weapons, and New Dreaming City Weapons! And A new Exotic Quest to get the Wish-Keeper Exotic Bow!
    The new Destiny 2 Into the Light DLC is live! We have new Into the Light Weapons (Brave Arsenal Weapons) including the Mountaintop Grenade Launcher, the Recluse SMG, The Blast Furnace Pulse Rifle, and the Luna's Howl Hand Cannon! We also have The Whisper Exotic Mission and The Zero Hour Exotic Mission!
    But today We're going over the new Final Shape DLC Info! Bungie reveals new Buffs and Nerfs for weapons in the new Final Shape Sandbox Update! We have Weapon Buffs and Nerfs, Exotic Buffs and Nerfs, and even Weapon Perk Buffs and Nerfs!
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  • @KackisHD
    @KackisHD  24 дня назад +31

    Do you guys think the Forbearance will survive the Special Wave Frame Nerf AND the Chain Reaction Nerf? Or is it gonna live in your Vaults in Final Shape?
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    • @georgeking1014
      @georgeking1014 24 дня назад +4

      TBH, my favorite roll on forbearance is Demo and Wellspring for the ability spam. So the chain reaction is a non-issue for me

    • @vex4010
      @vex4010 24 дня назад

      They obviously don't want nobody using these weapons in the new raid Divinity and Forebearance along with the mods so we don't have a advantage in the raid🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @Kdthefirst
      @Kdthefirst 23 дня назад

      @@georgeking1014 I have an appentice trace rifle with enhanced demo and enhanced well spring that in combination with devour get my grenades back literally in 3 kills four at the most

    • @whosurjustin
      @whosurjustin 23 дня назад

      @@georgeking1014 While that is a "good" roll upon first glance for ability focused builds, the fact that chain reaction or other dmg perks can secure kills faster, proccing indomitability more often will likely lead to more ability regen. Your roll is good for lower level content though.

    • @CringeConsultant
      @CringeConsultant 23 дня назад

      Chain reaction is a damage perk? I thought damage perks would be more directly affecting the damage of the shot.. CR doesn't do that as far as I know ​@@whosurjustin

  • @orangejuice1418
    @orangejuice1418 24 дня назад +72

    I think what irks me most is the Lament nerf. Its healing was perfectly fine. And it's an exotic sword. It should be outperforming legendary swords when using the exotic perk. That's the whole point of an exotic, is it not? Their reasoning behind decreasing its damage ceiling makes no sense.

    • @WaWestie
      @WaWestie 24 дня назад +3

      Legit, it's honestly so stupid.

    • @folekbarton6998
      @folekbarton6998 23 дня назад +3

      They’re doing It for the final shape boss encounters. Evidently we’re gonna need a sword and they realized the kinks

    • @pooPbutwhole
      @pooPbutwhole 23 дня назад +6

      @@folekbarton6998my brother in light, we just had a raid where the final boss literally couldn‘t be beat without swords on day 1, and for most even barely so with lament. There is NO NEED for this nerf, if anything i think swords only need a buff, nothing else.

    • @--6616
      @--6616 23 дня назад +3

      Yeah and certain legendary swords already gapped lament in damage (by a good amount too). It’s a head scratcher for sure.

    • @BREAKocean
      @BREAKocean 23 дня назад

      We dong know what they will have in the final shape and day 1 is supposed to be hard​@@pooPbutwhole

  • @Zakharon
    @Zakharon 24 дня назад +97

    nerfed lament as if boss stomps dont plague the game

    • @KayronTho
      @KayronTho 24 дня назад +28

      And it’s a freaking exotic.

    • @rickiboulter3053
      @rickiboulter3053 23 дня назад +6

      Exactly. This was a stupid change

    • @peeprivers4482
      @peeprivers4482 23 дня назад +7

      plus they said its healing negates the downside of using a sword. like we dont all just sit in a well during boss damage half the time so all swords negate it

    • @Farginator
      @Farginator 23 дня назад +2

      It really feels like they're trying to make Lament a strictly anti-champ weapon and not something that's viable for bosses anymore.

    • @thomashallmark4065
      @thomashallmark4065 23 дня назад +2

      boss stomps with added AOE fire damage as a cherry on top.

  • @andrewsanger3489
    @andrewsanger3489 24 дня назад +291

    Bungie fixing shit thats not broken again

    • @chrisolson2846
      @chrisolson2846 24 дня назад +38

      And breaking stuff that’s not broken in the process.

    • @rockymaniaster
      @rockymaniaster 24 дня назад +11

      Even I used to think that way but these are necessary. They want people to use other weapons perks and armours. So they keep changing the metas. It’s not feasible to keep using same bunch of meta weapons for years. Now I think of pulling out bastion, that void machine gun, queensbreaker etc which I never thought would use again

    • @jamauln1
      @jamauln1 24 дня назад +15

      ​@@rockymaniastershould probably buff the things they want people to use/try instead.

    • @cynicalPixels
      @cynicalPixels 23 дня назад +6

      So they can re-skin it & sell it back to you in a few seasons 😂

    • @forgotten.mystery.
      @forgotten.mystery. 23 дня назад +1

      It isn't necessary actually, and even if that's the case it doesn't matter their forcing something on player's that wouldn't be fair.
      And player's can decide to do that on their own and more if they wanna change the meta for themselves since they do it alot anyway usually atleast the creative player's do.

  • @Vindicasean
    @Vindicasean 24 дня назад +214

    Players: "Hey the gameplay is fun again"
    Bungie: "Nerfed, nerfed, nerfed, you're all nerfed. Fixed a bug where fun was had"

    • @Reezico
      @Reezico 24 дня назад +5

      yeah no, these are barely any good nerfs, the buffs are insane.

    • @Vindicasean
      @Vindicasean 24 дня назад +25

      ​@@Reezicoif they want people to use other gear, they need to make that gear more interesting or useful. Kneecapping gear *they put in their game* after people grind for it or get a good roll on is just gross and it's why I walked away from the game the last time I did

    • @wkpmlle
      @wkpmlle 23 дня назад

      😂😂😂

    • @trevor93939jhxgeyeuejnrnfjdise
      @trevor93939jhxgeyeuejnrnfjdise 23 дня назад

      Womp womp cry about it there is nothing you can do about it

    • @DivineOathKeeper
      @DivineOathKeeper 23 дня назад +1

      No cap this is how I feel playing this game all the time they literally nerfed Trinity AOE nobody uses Trinity I only use it for crowd control 20% damage happy face but were nerfing the AOE damage what's the use play evening news in Trinity that's actually one of the least used Exotics I have 25,000 kills with that weapon. In my opinion that is the best bow in the game the way it feels the way it works the way it aims the way it shoots its great. Well I guess I'm going to be farming the hell out of blast furnace I'm going to be gone for an impact frame with a s*** ton of range so my kinetic tremors arc to enemies. And do lots of damage

  • @Dan122179
    @Dan122179 24 дня назад +124

    Bungie nerfing succession and forbearance right after making us grind for them?
    shame, shame, shame.

    • @Michael-ee4uz
      @Michael-ee4uz 24 дня назад +10

      They warned about the Chain Reaction nerf before Into the Light even dropped.

    • @Youiji
      @Youiji 24 дня назад

      They've been talking about the chain reaction nerf for a good while

    • @johnwon6986
      @johnwon6986 23 дня назад +2

      Yeah,.. n thats why "into the light" weapons took almost my 15% inventory size which i cleaned for TFS 😅 n none of them for forbearance n couples succession.😊

    • @user-wv9jz3bn5r
      @user-wv9jz3bn5r 23 дня назад

      Don't forget Mountain top. Farmed that for dealing some boss damage....

    • @garyobrian3597
      @garyobrian3597 22 дня назад

      Bungie developers should we release these weapons unnerfed so everyone can grind them or should we release them nerfed top brass at bungie the first on 😂

  • @taixgoated
    @taixgoated 24 дня назад +65

    Striga didn’t need that nerf tbh exotics are supposed to be strong against redbars💀 but thorn gonna be on top for years to come

    • @GentleBones1
      @GentleBones1 24 дня назад +11

      Oh no, they nerfed my baby? Who asked for this? I just wanna talk to them.

    • @generalkenobi2088
      @generalkenobi2088 24 дня назад +6

      I literally just got necrotic grips for my warlock cause I wanted to do a Strand/striga build. I guess I’ll use thorn instead

    • @gouki290
      @gouki290 24 дня назад +3

      @@generalkenobi2088me too!

    • @taixgoated
      @taixgoated 24 дня назад +2

      @@GentleBones1 facts cause they wildin with this one💀

    • @johnuzoka6229
      @johnuzoka6229 24 дня назад +4

      They already nerfed a while back too

  • @jackkunasaki5044
    @jackkunasaki5044 24 дня назад +87

    Jesus christ, stop nerfing div. It's a pain in the ass to get and now theres no point in getting it

    • @darknerodn1500
      @darknerodn1500 24 дня назад +22

      It’s getting closer and closer to being a slot in the vault instead of taking space up in my inventory

    • @jackkunasaki5044
      @jackkunasaki5044 24 дня назад +26

      @@darknerodn1500 it's one of the reasons why I'm not getting the final shape. Bungie just keeps nerfing shit for "balancing" instead of making the game more fun and giving buffs

    • @emti29
      @emti29 23 дня назад +4

      my clan doesnt even use divinity anymore. we just use tether or tractor cannon. 6 dps is better than 5 dps + divinity.

    • @Abrahamsilverbit
      @Abrahamsilverbit 23 дня назад

      Cry

    • @jackkunasaki5044
      @jackkunasaki5044 23 дня назад

      @@Abrahamsilverbit I'll keep crying if you keep gaslighting yourself

  • @theodanielwollff
    @theodanielwollff 23 дня назад +11

    I love how they get you to grind guns for perks, just to nerf it. This is why I don't chase anything.

  • @dud1970
    @dud1970 24 дня назад +136

    I'm a solo player and I love overcoming challenges in this game, but to be fair they piled on so many nerfs at once that everything just feels lazy and cheap.

    • @Travelers_chosen_damaged
      @Travelers_chosen_damaged 24 дня назад +10

      Yeah soloing will be harder

    • @blakelynch2255
      @blakelynch2255 24 дня назад +17

      That's because it is lazy, Bungie doesn't actually want to see what could "make things better" they just look at the number and go "well that should all be nerfed"

    • @ethandedo2217
      @ethandedo2217 23 дня назад +2

      @@blakelynch2255clearly this is what they do and it pisses me off, I just started playing again, I just got my load outs and guns that I like. Now I have to find guns that feel good all over again cus when they nerf shit they nerf it into oblivion rather than “balancing” it

  • @kobayashi1750
    @kobayashi1750 24 дня назад +83

    The line about the PvE ammo economy redesign is what bothers me the most. I still remember the ammo mods for each type of weapons. It was awful.

    • @tomaszszupryczynski5453
      @tomaszszupryczynski5453 24 дня назад +12

      i am sick and tired of ammo mods, heavy and zero drops, scavenger and now nerfed to 2 rockets vs 3 before. cenotaph is useless doesnt give you enough ammo to even have rockets for champions. all shit is for one season, no point to grind that shit, same as kinetic tremors. all nerfed to ground. bungo just digs their own grave i hope final shit will be mega shit like before delay and people will leave that shit. destiny 3? i started with only 2 and regret time wasted, if i would knew i would never start with that shit. and now some will pay 3rd time for same raids in destiny 3. fuck bungo. or maybe mods now for primary. please i beg bungo do it

    • @BenSos-lf3uy
      @BenSos-lf3uy 23 дня назад +2

      Bungie Wants Us To throw Stones At The Witness And His Minions 😡😡😡

    • @howarddavis165
      @howarddavis165 22 дня назад

      Well, we’ve had plenty of practice throwing balls…

    • @L4Disillusion
      @L4Disillusion 20 дней назад

      Final fucking expansion still in beta test. 😂😂😂😂😂classic bungo 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @kingcurmudgeon8685
    @kingcurmudgeon8685 24 дня назад +36

    This is why I haven’t pre ordered. They always tinker a ton and come hard with the nerf hammer before an expansion. It gets tiresome with the constant “tuning”.

    • @FaceJah
      @FaceJah 24 дня назад +6

      I haven't pre ordered it either. If everyone cancelled their preorders now SONY would be asking WTF did you do now?
      I can imagine a 'Downfall' Hitler video about this. 😂
      Everyone who just cancelled their preorders leave now.
      Pause...
      What the FU@K is Bungie doing?
      I thought everyone was happy with the Onslaught weapons!

    • @folekbarton6998
      @folekbarton6998 23 дня назад +1

      Get gud

    • @unfortunatecircumstances8870
      @unfortunatecircumstances8870 23 дня назад +11

      ​@@folekbarton6998 Nobody asked, go give Bungie more of your money, shill

  • @starwart2000
    @starwart2000 24 дня назад +23

    So every Pulse Rifle excluding Graviton Lance and Revision Zero is getting a PvE buff? And every Pulse Rifle INCLUDING the aforementioned weapons are getting a red bar buff on top of that? This means No Time to Explain and Outbreak Perfected are about to re-enter the meta. Hell, you’ll even be able take Vigilance Wing into PvE with a buff like this!

    • @1shaggy123
      @1shaggy123 24 дня назад +13

      Only til everyone farms the heck out of them, then they will magically get hit with a 20% nerf. Bungie are dicks like that

    • @starwart2000
      @starwart2000 24 дня назад +7

      @@1shaggy123 you are probably right, but that won’t happen until several months after The Final Shape is released. So I am more than happy to take advantage of this while I can. One of the new crafted Outbreaks will allow me to breeze through the next campaign undoubtedly.

    • @generalkenobi2088
      @generalkenobi2088 24 дня назад +3

      I’m so stoked to finally get some use out of NTTE again. It’s been sitting in my vault for a while now

    • @TheprophetDJ
      @TheprophetDJ 23 дня назад +2

      I am so happy I missed pulse rifle love for a long time

    • @nads614
      @nads614 23 дня назад +1

      Yes definitely, I remember using Outbreak for Boss damage.

  • @g0g0duck20
    @g0g0duck20 24 дня назад +10

    Replacing Underdog with Pulse Monitor like litteraly any gun with underdog doesn't get instantly dismantled

  • @xerothereaper4158
    @xerothereaper4158 24 дня назад +15

    I blame Salt

  • @dre160
    @dre160 24 дня назад +34

    Kinetic tremors and one for all blast furnace go bur bur bur bur

    • @Necrottiic
      @Necrottiic 23 дня назад

      Still farming for a shiny KT+OFA and I can’t wait to get it

    • @dre160
      @dre160 23 дня назад +1

      @@Necrottiic I have one that is regular as long as I can enhance the perks it's good enough

    • @folekbarton6998
      @folekbarton6998 23 дня назад

      Just got one today brother 💪💪💪

    • @skilldeath666
      @skilldeath666 23 дня назад

      kinetic + frenzy is my roll and i'm very happy with it

  • @whosurjustin
    @whosurjustin 24 дня назад +79

    That's not a "little" nerf for deconstruct. That's straight up gutted.

    • @1shaggy123
      @1shaggy123 24 дня назад +33

      Made it worthless again. After letting everyone farm for tusk and edge transit for weeks first. Shitty of them.

    • @d9j2
      @d9j2 24 дня назад +8

      @@1shaggy123 Typical Bungie move😢

    • @ApostleOfZeus199
      @ApostleOfZeus199 24 дня назад +10

      ​@@1shaggy123Gotta get those engagement numbers up for Sony now lol

    • @CarlosSanchez-gj6ux
      @CarlosSanchez-gj6ux 24 дня назад +4

      nooo i just got a sticky auto/deconstruct roll 😢

    • @lordgrub12345
      @lordgrub12345 23 дня назад +1

      No it isn't??? It's literally fourth time's the chrm for gl's.

  • @jordansmith-kl2vb
    @jordansmith-kl2vb 24 дня назад +13

    I can’t believe how delirious they are. Shocking.

  • @Swagceus
    @Swagceus 24 дня назад +45

    Maybe instead of nerfing weapons how about they instead buff what's not seen as 'good'

    • @GentleBones1
      @GentleBones1 24 дня назад +11

      This. This really should be the standard. If other weapons aren't as fun, then the obvious answer shouldn't be to make every other weapon just as boring.

    • @SifGreyfang
      @SifGreyfang 24 дня назад

      No

    • @Swagceus
      @Swagceus 24 дня назад +5

      @@SifGreyfangBrother if they nerf a weapon (weapons in this case) another is just going to take its place. Then that weapon gets nerfed and another takes its place. Then that weapon gets nerfed and another takes its place. Then that weapon gets nerfed and another takes its place and so on and so forth ad infinitum. To avoid this just buff what's not deemed 'good' or 'viable'. Having options is far better than using the same gun till it gets nerfed and moving to another. This is present in PvP as well. Everyone is using the Summoner AR cause it's just that good. Other ARs are great but Summoner is still leagues ahead which ends with everybody running the same loadout with little to no variety subsequently becoming an eyesore. Once it gets nerfed (if it ever does) people will just move to next best thing.

    • @DivineOathKeeper
      @DivineOathKeeper 23 дня назад +3

      I 100% agree I have 25,000 kills on my Trinity Goul so whenever I found out they were going to buff bows I was like happy as hell but they now want to Nerf the AOE damage it needs a buff I stopped using Trinity Google because it's only good for crowd control and that's the only reason why I'll run it I kill the ads while everyone else focuses the champions right before we beat the s*** out of the boss and you realize that most of the people who are testing this game play the game are using cheats and mods anyways of course it's going to over perform whenever you're cheating while testing the game

    • @oxsila
      @oxsila 23 дня назад +1

      I love when keyboard devs pretend they know how to balance a game of 1,000 weapons 😂

  • @doubledown8229
    @doubledown8229 24 дня назад +108

    They need to stop with the nerfing.

    • @RD22x
      @RD22x 24 дня назад +8

      womp womp

    • @blacklotus5530
      @blacklotus5530 24 дня назад +4

      They buffed way more then nerfed tho🤷 only big on was Div tbh

    • @stevenwebb3475
      @stevenwebb3475 23 дня назад +1

      "Liquid LSD Drip feed when nerfing something go brrrr!" -Bungie most likely.

    • @BenSos-lf3uy
      @BenSos-lf3uy 23 дня назад +2

      No They won't Only SONY CAN MAKE THE Stupid Management Disappear 😡😡😡

    • @BenSos-lf3uy
      @BenSos-lf3uy 23 дня назад +3

      And I Think SONY Will BE MOST DISPLEASED WITH BUNGIE MANAGEMENT THE LAYOFFS ARE COMING BUNGIE TIME FOR SONY TO TAKE OUT THE TRASH 😡😡😡

  • @Kami_81
    @Kami_81 24 дня назад +16

    By removing damage mods and not giving rockets and grenade launchers (special and heavy) a damage buff to compensate like they did for almost everything else is a direct nerf to these weapons. Which mod will you use with rockets? Quick access sling?
    The Warden's Law and Malfeasance also got nerfed by the removal of the kinetic damage bonus to boss tier enemies (10%), which affects the Lucky Pants build. Izanagi is also affected by this change (15%), or any kinetic you could use in a damage rotation...
    Go Bungo!

    • @Michael-ee4uz
      @Michael-ee4uz 24 дня назад +1

      They did outclass every other weapon in slot. There is a reason every high tier solo run of anything was Luck Pants Wardens for a while. Too strong is too strong. And these are small nerfs.

    • @Necrottiic
      @Necrottiic 23 дня назад

      Lucky pants + Wardens Law 👎🏼
      Lucky pants+ Malfeasence 👎🏼
      Need to make other options for DPS

    • @unfortunatecircumstances8870
      @unfortunatecircumstances8870 23 дня назад +1

      ​@@Michael-ee4uzWrong.

    • @Michael-ee4uz
      @Michael-ee4uz 23 дня назад

      @@unfortunatecircumstances8870 Nope. Right. Wardens got 2 buffs and 2 nerfs and it will still be powerful. And those Lucky Pants users will have a new weapon to use in that Strand HC. Nothing can stay the meta forever without getting boring, being power crept (which is usually bad for a game), or getting nerfed to make room for new metas.

    • @unfortunatecircumstances8870
      @unfortunatecircumstances8870 23 дня назад +1

      @@Michael-ee4uz Incorrect.

  • @Tjoc12
    @Tjoc12 24 дня назад +14

    so they kill quicksilver zero , then come back and blow up its grave with a 10% damage nerf? wow....

    • @gouki290
      @gouki290 24 дня назад +6

      I know….its BS

    • @mojomanmurph1925
      @mojomanmurph1925 24 дня назад +3

      Everyone seems to be using it so NERF IT!!!!!

    • @zephyrgaming865
      @zephyrgaming865 23 дня назад +3

      How did they nerf quicksilver storm? It's a strand weapon

    • @qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm2528
      @qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm2528 23 дня назад +4

      Bungie is tweaking rn

    • @Tjoc12
      @Tjoc12 23 дня назад +1

      @@zephyrgaming865 they killed the grenade damage and you have to hit every shot to get all 3 charges, its pretty bad now

  • @dubbznasty7705
    @dubbznasty7705 24 дня назад +74

    Damn we can’t have shit. another pointless Div nerf, this time it will probably kill the use of the gun

    • @kailuun
      @kailuun 24 дня назад

      I think they are doing it to force people to adapt by kcking the crutches away, so to speak.

    • @oxsila
      @oxsila 23 дня назад +1

      Considering divinity just cooked rhulk with 5 thunderlords in -15 pantheon, can you blame them?

    • @CardinalCake
      @CardinalCake 23 дня назад +4

      @@oxsilayes

  • @epicgamerzfail4575
    @epicgamerzfail4575 24 дня назад +40

    the final shape: the biggest nerfs

  • @Shoot-me-now
    @Shoot-me-now 24 дня назад +66

    Goodbye hard earned weapons. Off to the vault with you.

    • @GentleBones1
      @GentleBones1 24 дня назад +3

      I'm glad I didn't farm too hard but damn, I thought we were eating good for a while.

    • @generalkenobi2088
      @generalkenobi2088 24 дня назад +2

      Is the lament still worth getting? I was planning on doing that quest soon

    • @lunadead
      @lunadead 24 дня назад +5

      @@generalkenobi2088 Lament is still worth getting for the fact that no other dps swords can do jack shit with all the boss stomps

    • @mlugo9
      @mlugo9 23 дня назад +2

      @@generalkenobi2088not anymore

    • @DNGMaestro
      @DNGMaestro 23 дня назад

      DISMANTLE

  • @ryanbloom7
    @ryanbloom7 24 дня назад +15

    Man pulse rifles really needed this buff.

    • @KackisHD
      @KackisHD  24 дня назад +11

      They're going to be COOKING in final shape my goodness

  • @tylerstickles2749
    @tylerstickles2749 24 дня назад +19

    The striga did not need to happen the hole point is the ad clear capability no person is using it for boss damage or to even kill yellow bars but now they decide to nerf the one thing that the gun is used for legendary void weapons with volatile rounds will be better than a exotic this is a load of bs

    • @DivineOathKeeper
      @DivineOathKeeper 23 дня назад +1

      I actually use that for boss fights but I swap in between that because I use a rocket launcher that has cluster when I'm using strand and I have a solar weapon that has explosive payload so when my team grants me volatile rounds I can keep like applying that on top of using the needle I activate felWinters and ult and just keep striga on the boss...lots of damage

  • @mrnasty2853
    @mrnasty2853 24 дня назад +22

    Outbreak prime meta gonna come back hard and I’m here for it

  • @Calif0rniabee
    @Calif0rniabee 24 дня назад +20

    They give us an entire month of farming harrowed and adept raid weapons, then remove adept big ones ._.

    • @BenSos-lf3uy
      @BenSos-lf3uy 23 дня назад

      Yes They Turned my Adept Weapons into An Ordinary Weapon and Everybodys Adept are now CRAP Hard work For Nothing I Hate You BUNGIE😡😡😡

  • @ayejay2688
    @ayejay2688 23 дня назад +4

    imma be real, these changes are just straight up weird and unneeded
    makes me feel extremely uneasy about the future of destiny 2 after the final shape, if all we're gonna get is nerfs to force meta changes rather than just buffing stuff no ones uses because of previous nerfs

  • @scottr9750
    @scottr9750 23 дня назад +8

    Salt must of got his way..to destroy the community so his merry band of cheaters can show off

  • @Not_Ferrari
    @Not_Ferrari 23 дня назад +4

    Nice to see that Scout Rifles are still perfectly balanced and need absolutely no adjustment whatsoever...

  • @andrewmead4407
    @andrewmead4407 24 дня назад +34

    those top 1% must of complained again about things need to be nerfed.

    • @smokedout7129
      @smokedout7129 23 дня назад +7

      They keep saying how we're "too powerful" or how easy the game is and ruin stuff for people that aren't on their same level or near their level.
      Then when people rightfully complain they say "skill issue" and act like everyone complaining is just shxt at the game.
      They're the reason neomuna red bars aren't normal or a bunch of activities keep cutting our power or placing us under power in the name of "difficulty."

    • @jackkunasaki5044
      @jackkunasaki5044 23 дня назад +4

      @@smokedout7129 it's why I started playing warframe now, in that game you feel powerful and most of the time the devs actually listen to the community

    • @BenSos-lf3uy
      @BenSos-lf3uy 23 дня назад +4

      Im Going Back To WOT At Least I've Got My Tanks That Haven't Been Nerfed Anybody That Trusts BUNGIE IS A FOOL Yes I Was Fooled But Never Again 😡

    • @L4Disillusion
      @L4Disillusion 22 дня назад +1

      ​@BenSos-lf3uy yeah bungie sucks. They have sucked since destiny one. Idk why people love this lame game. It's fun to goof off in. Raids aren't fun. Timed missions aren't fun. Most the content is gated to people who play this game constantly with a team of loser tryhards online in they're parents basement or whatever. Loser game toxic community.

    • @L4Disillusion
      @L4Disillusion 22 дня назад

      ​@@jackkunasaki5044sounds fun.

  • @mlugo9
    @mlugo9 23 дня назад +3

    I love how bungie takes 1 step forward then 10,000 steps back. These changes are absolutely horrendous. They just killed like 50% of the weapons in the game these aren’t “minor tweaks” 🤦‍♂️

  • @CronusStrafe
    @CronusStrafe 24 дня назад +19

    Outbreak gonna go crazy with the 20% buff

    • @andjamoo
      @andjamoo 23 дня назад

      I was thinking the same thing

    • @user-cg2ys3hy5v
      @user-cg2ys3hy5v 23 дня назад +1

      Yeah you keep on thinking That Bungie will Nerf It Next Until Sony Steps In And Fires Them All and I'll be Laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @DraftyCoast
    @DraftyCoast 24 дня назад +9

    Aparently we can't have a good time in D2 during DPS

    • @Michael-ee4uz
      @Michael-ee4uz 24 дня назад +1

      Almost everything got buffed and now I'm not outclassed by a Hunter with a hand cannon. I'm fine with it all.

    • @okthisisepic9218
      @okthisisepic9218 23 дня назад +4

      @@Michael-ee4uznow you can’t hit the boss cause whoever is using Div runs out of ammo every five seconds, now you can’t touch crota cause lement isn’t healing you, now you need a well in every boss encounter to offset the nerfs, these changes are horrible

    • @Michael-ee4uz
      @Michael-ee4uz 23 дня назад +1

      @@okthisisepic9218 you can touch Crota just fine, the health nerf isn't bad and everyone who doesn't use Lament doesn't complain. You won't tun out of Div ammo every 5 second either, you will just have to make sure you have scavengers or special finishers or deeper reserves for multiple phase boss fights. Nerfs like these are always over reacted to.

    • @mlugo9
      @mlugo9 23 дня назад

      @@Michael-ee4uzyou have got be working for bungie bro your actually a clown 😭

    • @DraftyCoast
      @DraftyCoast 23 дня назад

      @@Michael-ee4uz I'm a hunter main lmao

  • @tfc1193
    @tfc1193 24 дня назад +17

    Hey Bungie here's a suggestion: instead of making trash perks slightly less trash, how bout you just get rid of them? It'd be a win/win. You don't have to spend time, money, and resources on salvaging it, and we don't have to worry about it dropping in game anymore
    Everybody wins

    • @L4Disillusion
      @L4Disillusion 22 дня назад +1

      Or you could stop supporting a bad game with horrible development. 😂😂😂

    • @tfc1193
      @tfc1193 22 дня назад

      @@L4Disillusion destiny certainly isn't a bad game and the devs are good. The issue is decision making at the upper level

  • @TheUnlistedOne
    @TheUnlistedOne 23 дня назад +10

    We farmed for wave frames with more velocity and less blast radius and Bungie fucked us over with the change. Fluck you Bungie!

  • @yareyarebankai6841
    @yareyarebankai6841 23 дня назад +3

    These changes are very drastic, so I can only hope better exotics will come with the expansion. Or they just hate us using the same stuff- I mean…players should use whatever they want in PVE so… I don’t want to ever feel like whatever I use is on a time clock for a nerf. That sucks in a looter game

  • @keronstewart9446
    @keronstewart9446 24 дня назад +12

    if salt wins world first again, the hate will be like helldivers 2 level considering how much weapons he got nerfed.
    especially div

    • @terencemcgovern216
      @terencemcgovern216 22 дня назад +1

      when the next round of layoffs comes, as they are being escorted by security to the door, the devs can be comforted that their carboard box of belongings has a signed photo of Salt with his world first belt saying "I couldn't have done it without you"

  • @nfamusSoul21
    @nfamusSoul21 23 дня назад +3

    Future update: due to the lament getting vaulted by every single guardian due to its dog water damage, we’ve decided to reverse previous changes.

  • @DavidRodriguez-ed1io
    @DavidRodriguez-ed1io 24 дня назад +4

    Snipers buff… and didn’t mentioned the whisper of the worm as an exception😮

  • @baldeagle5835
    @baldeagle5835 24 дня назад +5

    Pulse Rifles = Outbreak Perfected gets the exotic buff (30%) + 20% Pulse rifle buff + 15% red bar buff verse Blast Furnace with KT & One for All - really want to see a damage comparison test.

    • @zerotodona1495
      @zerotodona1495 24 дня назад +1

      It’ll be nerfed to the ground if it does too much damage.

    • @FaceJah
      @FaceJah 24 дня назад

      ​@@zerotodona1495 That and or too many people enjoy using it all the time. Never fails. 🤬

    • @pernamore4224
      @pernamore4224 23 дня назад +1

      I give them at least 2 weeks after tfs

    • @DivineOathKeeper
      @DivineOathKeeper 23 дня назад +1

      I'm going to be farming that blueprint this weekend cuz if it's going to have vorpal on there it's going to be an absolute boss killer

  • @ratchetandclankACIT
    @ratchetandclankACIT 24 дня назад +3

    The Div nerf is annoying because it’s a weak debuff maybe now they should just give it back the original debuff %.

  • @jshort275
    @jshort275 24 дня назад +13

    LOL idk why I even put time in this game anymore.

  • @Slamdeath
    @Slamdeath 24 дня назад +7

    Guys I'm not sure but maybe Rick likes Blast Furnace

    • @ronnieholland7725
      @ronnieholland7725 24 дня назад

      Blast furnace is a awesome pulse maybe the best when final shape comes out

  • @plattendoktor
    @plattendoktor 23 дня назад +1

    So they had the chance to fix the wave frame granade launchers projectiles bouncing of an flying enemy which makes the weapons nearly unuseable?

  • @matb6140
    @matb6140 24 дня назад +4

    Nappa: "Vegeta, what does the scouter say about how many times it's ya boy Rick Kackis says `Moving on from there?'"
    Vegeta: "It's over 9000!"
    Nappa: "What? 9000!? There's no way that can be right! Can it!?"

  • @JH-vb1wo
    @JH-vb1wo 24 дня назад +1

    I literally have every perk combo of blast furnace except kinetic tremors frenzy.. now I must grind for it more. I do like kinetic tremors plus des measures or one for all

  • @m3tr0id86
    @m3tr0id86 24 дня назад +207

    Nerfing Div again? Man what did the Destiny Daren (aka male Karen) say this time? If you know who it is, you know.

    • @mattm5829
      @mattm5829 24 дня назад +22

      We know

    • @Reapeus
      @Reapeus 24 дня назад +36

      He is a very salty man

    • @liammarshman6831
      @liammarshman6831 24 дня назад +2

      I don't, who is it?

    • @RD22x
      @RD22x 24 дня назад +19

      Salt hasn't commented on it since the previous nerf. All you scrubs want the easy game becoming easier lmfao

    • @macho8240
      @macho8240 24 дня назад +70

      ​@@RD22xDestiny is not dark souls and it shouldn't be. It has always been a casual game to sit back and play with friends

  • @tomz6594
    @tomz6594 23 дня назад +3

    Every boss has a stomp AND has AOE ground burn. Why not nerf Lament and make close combat even less viable? I guess Dark Drinker vs Aksis really traumatized them.

  • @azeon562
    @azeon562 23 дня назад +4

    Lmao, Bungie has accidentally nerfed linear fusion rifles again. The loss of boss spec means linears will be doing -8% damage, they compensated by adding a flat 5% bonus to linears, which means you're still down -3% after the change.

    • @flamestargaming5441
      @flamestargaming5441 23 дня назад

      That's depending on the linear fuser rifle archetype if it's void Ark solar throw on some surge mods because your teammates are going to be generating orbs of power anyway so that -3 damage goes away pretty quickly

    • @azeon562
      @azeon562 23 дня назад +1

      @@flamestargaming5441 Surge mods are a non-factor here, you can generate orbs and stack triple surge for every damage type, and you could do the same before the nerf. This is flat reduction in the amount of damage linears will do across the board.

    • @user-cg2ys3hy5v
      @user-cg2ys3hy5v 23 дня назад +1

      Exactly 💯

  • @derek3154
    @derek3154 24 дня назад +1

    What does that mean for the perc VORPAL? Nothing🤔

  • @quintonhaist8822
    @quintonhaist8822 23 дня назад

    What pistol are you using ? And where to get it ?

  • @nejiefelipe
    @nejiefelipe 23 дня назад +2

    Im happy about the pulse riffles buff but the nerfs to osteo and divinity are really unfortunate... i was hoping for more catalysts on this update but we might just have to wait for another season...

  • @surgicallymade6135
    @surgicallymade6135 24 дня назад +21

    6x rat king is gonna be the new raid dps king

  • @JH-vb1wo
    @JH-vb1wo 24 дня назад +2

    Giving a flat damage boost is a amazing thing and will make weapons even stronger and right now it sure sucks in hard content your locked out of changing mods so u don’t get those bonuses to other enemy types. Very happy about this

  • @smokedout7129
    @smokedout7129 23 дня назад +2

    At this point what's the point of grinding adept weapons over the crafted versions of the same weapons?
    To show you did the raid on master difficulty?
    Also weapons feeling great isn't a bad thing especially when they're exotic. Instead of nerfing them so they're more in line with non exotic weapons, they should just buff the non exotic weapons.
    Also i forgot who said this, but if the only thing making people use an exotic over a legendary is the damage it does, then the exotic needs a major buff or rework.

  • @drewfoster6138
    @drewfoster6138 23 дня назад +2

    Still waiting for my lumina solo player buff now heal clips in the game

  • @M3ltedNikhowaz6426
    @M3ltedNikhowaz6426 24 дня назад +26

    Khvostov 7g-0x coming back is the greatest thing to have happened in the game.

    • @epicgamerzfail4575
      @epicgamerzfail4575 24 дня назад +7

      Khvostov not being the ultimate craftable/custimizable gun in the game is a big L imo

    • @deusmeodeia
      @deusmeodeia 24 дня назад +3

      Yeah, 70 dollars for a gun that no one asked for

    • @okthisisepic9218
      @okthisisepic9218 23 дня назад +2

      It’s really not that interesting, the perk is extremely boring and is basically a horrible weapon of sorrow

  • @t0nyhayabusa178
    @t0nyhayabusa178 24 дня назад +5

    I feel that Bungie will buff enemies to almost balance out the buffs on weapons.

    • @jamauln1
      @jamauln1 24 дня назад +4

      Probably. Might be Lightfall bullet sponges all over again.

    • @deathschmelda
      @deathschmelda 23 дня назад +5

      @@jamauln1 ugh, I avoid Neomuna like the plague.

    • @jamauln1
      @jamauln1 23 дня назад

      @deathschmelda not nearly as bad as it was, but the difference is still noticeable. 😒

  • @exxy9931
    @exxy9931 24 дня назад +1

    For Grave Robber changes: strand and prismatic warlocks get 3 charged melees with needle strike or whatever the strand melee is called. :’)

    • @johnbaratta3891
      @johnbaratta3891 24 дня назад

      Wonder if it will have a cooldown like genadier

  • @pernamore4224
    @pernamore4224 23 дня назад +3

    Everything that's getting buffed now will be nerfed 2 weeks after tfs lol

  • @misskill33
    @misskill33 24 дня назад +5

    even with this nerf for chain reaction, forbearanc will still do its job against red bars, it will remain good for trash clear, but I think this nerf is ugly, considering that people who don't have the opportunity to play raids finally had the opportunity to obtain a forebearance from onslaught.. its like we give u that , but stay chill its nerfed :))

    • @mjeevans2104
      @mjeevans2104 24 дня назад +2

      Agreed .. forbearance was the only God roll shiny I got.. booo bungo

  • @erikcrawford1505
    @erikcrawford1505 23 дня назад

    my arc shot chain hullabaloo was already great for ad clear :)

  • @mighty_marcus8016
    @mighty_marcus8016 23 дня назад

    I rarely use a weapon with hip fire. Look for Incandescent, heal clip, explosive payload, one for all, timed payload, rewind rounds, desperado, bitter spite, firefly, volt shot, and destabilizing rounds. Plus a good rapid fire frame could be a game changer for the new season.😊

  • @h4gaming721
    @h4gaming721 24 дня назад +2

    So my adept mods for pve will just be gone?

  • @InsomniacSrategies
    @InsomniacSrategies 20 дней назад

    If they made Deterministic Chaos intrinsically either other champion breaker, or MAYBE if it had SUPRESS on a certain number of shots, then I’d use it. All antibarrier does is make it a little more reliable at something it could already do (grenade kills give anti-barrier volatile rounds, Gyrfalcon, etc). They’re really not moving the needle.

  • @thatgamerdon
    @thatgamerdon 22 дня назад

    What's the sidearm he's using here? I've seen it for a while, but I'm unsure where to grab it.

  • @TheprophetDJ
    @TheprophetDJ 23 дня назад +2

    I am bout to go find my felwinters lie back and blast furnace. So you nerfed osteo striga and destroyed strand suspend builds just to make us use the exotic chest piece that’s not predator at all (Sarcasm)

  • @RapAddict410
    @RapAddict410 23 дня назад +1

    A lot of nerfs especially for the weapons where the base damage increase is less than the spec mods

  • @SithLordWolff
    @SithLordWolff 24 дня назад

    I forsaw chain reaction getting nerfed BECAUSE of forbearance and that is why on the new forbearance I went for the other roll I wanted instead of a chain reaction roll I got a demolitionist wellspring roll
    And of I still want a wave frame that's pretty decent at taking out ads I got a tusk of the boar with slice and hatchling

  • @chadmahr8533
    @chadmahr8533 23 дня назад +1

    I dont think the Osteo Striga needed a nerf. Wow

  • @Kdthefirst
    @Kdthefirst 24 дня назад +2

    “ITS NERF OR NOTHIN.” 🤣

  • @chopin1962
    @chopin1962 24 дня назад +6

    They nerfed STUFF that does not need a nerf! The game is fine withput these nerfs, it’s even more fun and better. Especially in end game pve, for eg well

    • @user-cg2ys3hy5v
      @user-cg2ys3hy5v 23 дня назад

      Bungie at the Finest Stupidity Move waiting For There Demise By Sony And it's Coming 😡

  • @pernamore4224
    @pernamore4224 23 дня назад +9

    Meanwhile "full auto" mod still hasnt been removed 😂

  • @batmobike1756
    @batmobike1756 24 дня назад

    So no reason to get adept raid weapons if you can't have adept big mod or am I missing something? Crafted version just went up in value?

  • @e1eventy7t
    @e1eventy7t 23 дня назад

    21:27 Hunters have shurikens and warlocks have arcane needles. Titans can get silly too if its a close-quarters boss with throwing hammer. We now have up to 2, 3, and theoretically infinite free reloads on whatever weapon we get with grave robber. Any gl or rocket with the perk has now become exponentially better.

  • @ayejay2688
    @ayejay2688 23 дня назад +1

    i did not see more mod removals coming, tbh i dont think it was even needed, like let us be powerful fam this game is nearly at the end of its life

  • @danielgibson1535
    @danielgibson1535 24 дня назад +4

    Gah I just got taken speck recently and was really loving it😢

    • @user-cg2ys3hy5v
      @user-cg2ys3hy5v 23 дня назад

      Bungie is Taking all Specs Including Big Ones Spec now My Adept Won't be Adept Just Regular Weapons.

  • @RB-ql3vb
    @RB-ql3vb 24 дня назад +2

    Anyone aware of a ninja nerf for the sunshot? Used it today in onslaught and it seemed pretty underwhelming

  • @Zepulchure
    @Zepulchure 24 дня назад

    I have long wanted queenbreaker to get a buff or better yet a rework, to make it viable in PvE, it had a short moment of glory in Gambit, but before and after it has rarely if ever seen any light outside the vault or collections.
    Make the different modes have subclass synergy, anti-champion, easier change between modes, bigger use case difference between the modes. (Trash clear mode / boss killing mode) Or something,,, obviously not all at the same time (I wish😅) but something,, as well as a chunky damage buff if it stays in the heavy slot.
    What are your opinions on this weapon, have you ever used it (outside of gambit)? And what would you like to be done with it

  • @cbr6001962
    @cbr6001962 24 дня назад +3

    And given all enemies a 30% health and damage buff

  • @platinumruins122
    @platinumruins122 23 дня назад

    I held out hope for my chill clip lingering dread, and it's finally paid off

  • @FinesseGod_
    @FinesseGod_ 23 дня назад +1

    All to get more play time out of people. These nerfs are getting you all ready to be less disappointed by the lack of content and time gated events/quests.
    Shooting bullet sponges and having less ways to chunk health while simultaneously giving them an immunity phase or 5. We’ve seen it once and we’ll see it again. But hey, no more sunsetting right?

  • @InsomniacSrategies
    @InsomniacSrategies 20 дней назад

    Nerfing Osteo Striga and Buffing Nechrocasm in back to back paragraphs is basically saying: USE NECHROCASM WHEN YOU WOULDA USED STRIGGA! I might be able use it more with Necrotic Grips now that the poison lasts longer for enemies to move around/spread it more. Though if a big part of the reason you used Strigga was its sustained damage on chunkier targets like me, then you can still use it that way since the nerf is only to poison spread by kills and not to its sustained damage poison burst.

  • @ronnieholland7725
    @ronnieholland7725 24 дня назад

    Blast furnace is going to be insane

  • @ivan_domangaming9359
    @ivan_domangaming9359 24 дня назад +1

    The buff fron game mode surges makes kinetic guns worse to use, they just basically just revert that and make strand and stasis weapons way better than kinetic

    • @Michael-ee4uz
      @Michael-ee4uz 24 дня назад

      I'm not sure how a buff to one type of damage makes another type, that has a buff built in, feel worse to use.

    • @CringeConsultant
      @CringeConsultant 23 дня назад

      ​​@@Michael-ee4uzSurge matching.. he literally said it in the comment.
      You can match surges with Strand/Stasis with heavy. No kinetic heavies.

    • @mlugo9
      @mlugo9 23 дня назад

      @@Michael-ee4uzcasual

  • @blakelynch2255
    @blakelynch2255 24 дня назад +3

    The future: meaning everything is gonna be nerfed you're welcome says Bungie lol

  • @DODIRTT
    @DODIRTT 24 дня назад +3

    I will never understand why games think nerfing popular weapons is the key to making other weapons get more use. The buffs they give these weapons often time do not make them any better. They are eith the same or only better by comparison.
    I literally just got div. As a newish player it was hell even finding a team willing to run a old raid let alone do the steps to unlock the weapon.
    Im sorry but you do not have to nerf good weapons and armor to make bad armor better. You dont do anything but change the meta not give it diversity. Because people will still clutch on meta weapons. If you don't want certain weapon archetypes to overpreform then you make the underproforming weapons better not make the good weapons worse.

    • @tudeabides
      @tudeabides 23 дня назад +2

      No, see, a speedrunner thought Div was too OP and loudly called for it to be nerfed for months. Instead of simply not using it for the sake of, y’know, keeping the D2 content challenging for his godly self. We apparently aren’t allowed to have nice things.
      It’s a tragedy because Div is a fairly difficult-to-obtain gun for most players, and now there will be even less incentive to even bother going for it

    • @briancho237
      @briancho237 23 дня назад

      @@tudeabideswho are you talking about? Genuinely curious

  • @dachump8536
    @dachump8536 24 дня назад +1

    That Div nerf was pretty left field i use it like 1 or 2 times a month

  • @jeromel6962
    @jeromel6962 23 дня назад

    Damn I just got a good Blast Furnace with Kinetic Tremors and Firefly.

  • @zero-point297
    @zero-point297 23 дня назад +1

    The first nerf of DMT after it's release was the most balanced the weapon ever was and will never return to that R.I.P. DMT ( leave him alone he's already dead)

  • @miltonmorales5512
    @miltonmorales5512 24 дня назад +2

    Crafted adhortative with Incan about to go crazy

    • @Michael-ee4uz
      @Michael-ee4uz 24 дня назад

      Yeah, I was pissed that I can't seem to get the Heal Clip/incandescent Luna's to drop, but now I'm fine with my Adhortative.

    • @jeffreyhansen1737
      @jeffreyhansen1737 24 дня назад

      ​@@Michael-ee4uzkeep farming, that lunas howl cooks in pve

  • @JQDeathFromAbove96
    @JQDeathFromAbove96 23 дня назад +2

    14:45 bungie doesn’t play their own game. Try using laments on the outbreak perfected boss. It’s disaster. Idiot devs

  • @anubisrose560
    @anubisrose560 24 дня назад

    That ice bow fina go hard

  • @DeathDragon1730
    @DeathDragon1730 24 дня назад +1

    … i might actually have to finish my colony masterwork, because that sounds an awful lot like “shoot one shot, clear most of the room.”

    • @SifGreyfang
      @SifGreyfang 24 дня назад +1

      I may just add that to my Warlock threadling build

  • @darkdraco02
    @darkdraco02 24 дня назад +1

    I just got adept forbearance with ambitious and chain reaction. Hope it isn't killed too bad

    • @user-cg2ys3hy5v
      @user-cg2ys3hy5v 23 дня назад +1

      It's no longer going to Be Adept Just Another Nerf By The Idiots at Bungie 😡

  • @mikeheadley6916
    @mikeheadley6916 24 дня назад +5

    Try hards want Destiny to be Dark Souls and say "get good" when nerfs happen. Then you have the others who play the game casualty who adapt to the nerfs but might not have time to necessarily "get good" because of kids, jobs, family issues, etc. Idk man nerfs gonna happen it's whatever but not really understanding why nerf things that aren't necessarily "game breaking" ya know? If anything why not nerf Well for Warlock because we know in any raid besides Div everyone tells worklock to run Well 9/10 times instead of another class besides healing

    • @Vindicasean
      @Vindicasean 24 дня назад

      Seriously, I have a LIFE. Lemme get a power fantasy in this shooty space wizard game with giant floating beach ball magic, Bungie

  • @raymond9479
    @raymond9479 23 дня назад +1

    I dont see problem tbh
    Yea forebearance and succession nerf but i just rarely no never use it as gameplay
    I play mountaintop and any legendary primary
    So it was like always switch gameplay
    Like switch mountain top,recluse or luna howl And dragon breath
    Only problem is div nerf