Silent Hill 2 | A Psychologically Disturbing Masterpiece

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024

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  • @MVGaming621
    @MVGaming621 2 месяца назад +9

    Laura is there because of Mary. She is guiding James to Mary basically. It seems like Laura doesn’t see SH like James and Eddy do.
    When james and Maria are in the basement of the hospital Maria says “I feel like I need to protect her”, referring to Laura. She is Mary but Maria is the sexualized version of Mary.
    The town of Silent Hill guides people like James and Eddy to either the right path or the path they were on which was not a good one. It helps them understand themselves, kind of like purgatory.

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад

      A purgatory is a great way to describe it. A place for everyone to atone for themselves. I agree with your thoughts on Laura. She definitely feels like an innocent guiding light steering James towards Mary!

    • @davidoli
      @davidoli 2 месяца назад +1

      @@DogmasDomain I think Laura is there as yet another reminder of James's guilt, because Mary met Laura in the hospital and wanted to adopt her, and James ruined that possibility because of what he did

  • @hoborobbo
    @hoborobbo 2 месяца назад +8

    I think Laura represents innocence. She doesn’t experience the horrors James, Angela, and Eddie are facing during their stay at the town because she’s not tainted, unlike the others.
    Cool video, once again! Great job!

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад +1

      That makes sense. She's just looking for Mary which adds to the sense of mystery in my opinion. She really is just an innocent girl looking for her friend. I wish the game gave us some more concrete answers, but it's alright. Talking like this is probably better anyways haha. And I'm glad you enjoyed the video! I watched a few videos after I finished making this one, and was shocked people didn't dive deeper into the character and themes!

    • @lanceelopezz223
      @lanceelopezz223 2 месяца назад

      Correct.

    • @SamuelBlack84
      @SamuelBlack84 2 месяца назад

      I've always found it strange how Laura met Mary in hospital, considering Mary would have most likely been in a terminal ward
      Unless Laura herself was a patient
      Or, she was just a delusion created by Mary as her vision of the perfect daughter
      Mary asked her nurse to give a letter to Laura which she never did forcing Laura to steal it

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад +1

      That's, actually, a great question. I wonder how they met. Mary creating a perfect daughter that's rude to James sounds pretty fitting with how he saw her.

  • @Duuhvis
    @Duuhvis 2 месяца назад

    SH is my favorite series of all time. I remember renting 1 and 2 from blockbuster and falling in love with each game. Very excited for the remake! Also great video!

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад

      Hopefully Bloober finds their stride with this game and the new additions don't detract from this masterpiece. Can't wait to play more! And thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed!

  • @cosmicalkitsune5998
    @cosmicalkitsune5998 2 месяца назад +1

    You had a very fascinating take and I really enjoyed hearing such a “blind” perspective. I hadn’t heard anyone talk about the idea of the others being a manifestation, and there are so many essays on this game so I am not used to hearing something new! It was interesting (though I am personally of the belief that only Maria was one!)
    I do have a question though if that’s okay. When you talked about Mary towards the end, and talk about if James killed her or if she is “still alive”, I don’t think I understood what you were trying to express? From the start of the game she is already dead (just the timeline of when and exactly how she died is confusing), it is established as you play that she is gone (if you are not aware, at one point as you play the letter from Mary turns into a blank piece of paper, suggesting there never even was a letter!), and all of the games endings show her as dead. I was just hoping you would have gone into those thoughts and the process behind your conclusions on that section, since you had such a unique interpretation of the rest of the game! Do you/are you able to express those thoughts more? ( also fun fact bc I don’t know if you have come out if the information vacuum, but at one point a developer confirmed that at the start of the game, Mary’s body is in Jame’s car! Helping explain how he has her body in the Ritual/Rebirth ending!)

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад

      Thank you for the kind words and the comment! I was surprised how many video essays were either glorified walkthrough or scratched the surface on a few of the themes. This game is remarkably dense and is definitely best tailored for discussions in my opinion.
      So, about my thoughts on the ending - my interpretation was probably unique because I was a bit confused with its sequencing and execution. Towards the end, you get the VHS, confront Angela, fight Pyramid Head after Maria dies, you listen to Mary and James' conversation in a hallway, James talks to Mary on her death bed, and you get an ending. My interpretation was derived from taking this sequence of events occurring after each other. With the exception of the flashback in the VHS, I thought these events were actually happening. I was confused because James is shown suffocating Mary and then they have a conversation later. Combine this with Eddie's inability to see Pyramid Head and Laura happily wandering around Silent Hill, and I was led to believe these events, characters, and interactions may have manifested from Jame's mind.
      Taking the events near the end of the game literally, I thought James had to confront his vices in order to say goodbye to Mary before burying her and his problems. I wasn't sure whether James actually suffocated Mary or, like the enemies, Pyramid Head, Maria, and potentially the cast, it was part of his psyche showing what he wanted to do instead of what actually happened. Then again, I could be digging too deep, and I should take things on the surface. Listening to other videos, reading comments, and interacting with more people is really interesting because I sound like I'm crazy haha

  • @trainyourdog7351
    @trainyourdog7351 2 месяца назад +1

    Welcome to the SH family brother! Ive been a SH fan since its initial release and i still have all my original copies. I remeber way back when I would be excited to talk about silent hill but most folks had no idea wtf I was talkin about. Im enjoying all the love and attention my favorite but flawed franchise has been gettin in years of late. I like to see folks enjoying something that i do but ive noticed since PT and folks learning about the franchise due to youtube and Pt the SH Fanbase has a ton of new hyper opinionated new "fans" and its gettin out of hand🤦🏾new sub👍🏾

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад +1

      Glad to be here, and I'm excited to cover the games one day! And yeah, everyone is going to have their opinions on stuff. I personally love how open ended these games are for interpretations, and how the developers are intentionally cryptic.

  • @gtkenshiroyouralreadydeadr2094
    @gtkenshiroyouralreadydeadr2094 2 месяца назад +1

    I do remember playing Silent Hill 2 on the PS2 and my first time playing it which made me think a lot of the scene when eddie just goes beserk and says you were laughing at him all along ever since we first came across him and I did say look at that big billy and laughed and when that scene showed and he said that it completely startled me knowing james never laughed or made a fun of him in the beginning of meeting each other the actual silent hill team made silent hill 2 to perfection for a game that came out in 2001

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад +1

      I agree

    • @gtkenshiroyouralreadydeadr2094
      @gtkenshiroyouralreadydeadr2094 2 месяца назад

      @@DogmasDomain it’s crazy it’s like the original silent hill team made you feel like you’re a part of james torment with him and the game broke a 4th wall or something because of that eddie scene like they knew we would easily judge someone by how they look because it’s a natural human thing we do it’s so perfect for a game

  • @3babylon3
    @3babylon3 3 месяца назад +3

    great video m8

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  3 месяца назад

      Glad you enjoyed! Hope you're doing well!

  • @Danielss250
    @Danielss250 3 месяца назад +3

    This video was very different from what I imagined, but in a good way. Seeing your perspective on the story and characters was kinda fresh, felt nostalgic, reminded me of way back then when this game first released and the internet was full of diferent takes and interpretations of the story. I never though about the characters as being a creation of jame's mind, besides maria of course. To me the other characters are real and they all felt called to silent hill to deal with some sort of trauma or deep mental scar and the town itself is different for each person, it reflects their problems and that's explains things like Laura never seeing any monsters and the last scene with angela where she says that the world is always on fire in her eyes. So kinda like Silent Hill is their own version of purgatory I guess.
    Silent Hill 1 and 3 are both on this lvl of quality and immersion in my opinion and yes you need to play 1 before 3, otherwise you lose a lot of context.
    Finally about bloober, I'll try to be respectful here and let each person come to their own conclusions about them. I'll just ask for one little mental exercise here, now that you know about Maria and wha she represents for James, go and look at the trailers for the remake, look at her new design,does it seems like they're respecting the original vision? I'm sure you'll notice that something was lost in translation. And this is bloober team in a nutshell in my opinion.

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  3 месяца назад +1

      It sounds like you enjoyed the video! And that's the perspective I was looking for! This game has been picked apart online a TON of the past two decades, so I just wanted to present my interpretation and, from the other videos I've seen since finishing the video, I do think I had some pretty original thoughts here. I was a bit disappointed watching some other videos because they felt like playthroughs disguised as video essays, which didn't provide a very unique perspective. Other videos didn't really dive into characters, themes, and trauma as much as I thought they would! I think the purpose of this game is to start a discussion, which it's been clearly doing for almost 2 decades.
      If SH2 is the quality of these games, I've been missing out and I'm EXCITED to try 1 and 3 eventually. A bunch of my friends think 3 is the best. Which is your favorite?
      I've been avoiding everything about that game like the plague, but I'll look up a trailer. People seem cautiously optimistic about the remake from what I've seen. I've been thinking about getting it day one.... I'm still undecided.

    • @Danielss250
      @Danielss250 3 месяца назад +1

      @@DogmasDomain SH1 is my favorite, but i'm the odd one out, most ppl prefer 2 and 3. And yeah I really enjoyed the video, I was very surprised as it felt like a fresh perspective on SH2 and if you know how the internet works that's saying something.
      When you're watching the trailers, pay attention not only to the character designs but to scenes they show and the general vibe of the game. I think you should play if you're remotely curious specially because, you know, you're a content creator so you can make content out of it.

  • @DanielGarcia-us7tf
    @DanielGarcia-us7tf 2 месяца назад +3

    This game along with Obscure and The Suffering are among my favorite Playstation 2 horror games.

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад

      I'll have to check them out if they're up there with SH2!

  • @Dlemetry
    @Dlemetry 3 месяца назад +7

    I did not get the impression that the other characters were in James' mind, besides Maria. Everyone just had their own reasons for feeling they had to come to Silent Hill, and it's reflected through the tablets you have to get in Toluca Prison I'm pretty sure. Tablet of "The Oppressor" being James, Konami confirmed it represented him, Tablet of "Gluttonous Pig" being Eddie, and Tablet of "The Seductress" being Angela, you can read more on the connections through the wiki page or some video essays that talk about it.

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  3 месяца назад +2

      That's a good observation on the tablets! The reason I'm not sure if they're real is because they all perceive Silent Hill as something different and characters like Pyramid Head aren't seen by other characters. Angela see's something distinct when we fight that monster, the fire is meant to represent something, and Eddy feels like he's coming to terms with his nature. Viewing SH2 as a character study might be wrong though. I think the game is meant to be discussed due to its open-ended nature. I will read up on the wiki and watch more video essays though. These are just my thoughts playing this game in a vacuum! Hopefully you enjoyed the video even if my interpretation might've been off!

    • @Dlemetry
      @Dlemetry 3 месяца назад +3

      @@DogmasDomain I really liked the video regardless, I hate when people make video essay's that just retell the plot with surface level thoughts about it, I don't think any interpretation is necessarily wrong though as the game is open-ended like you said. Great video though, subscribed.

    • @nerostark4320
      @nerostark4320 2 месяца назад

      @@DogmasDomain Laura and Eddie have a conversation during the game, which implies that they are real

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад

      Laura and Eddie don't see the monsters, and Pyramid Head and Maria interact as well. You could be right though

    • @watchmehope6560
      @watchmehope6560 2 месяца назад

      ​@@DogmasDomain if you see the opening intro video, you see Laura and Eddie on the side of the road. His van broke down. That implies they're real. I say that because at that moment we aren't in control of James (in his mind)
      We're just seeing a teaser of what's to come.

  • @Kirisu__Mafuyu
    @Kirisu__Mafuyu 2 месяца назад +1

    To be honest, I don't see any of the SH2 OG atmosphere in the remake anymore. I just feel like I'm killing things and that's it. good video btw

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад

      Glad you enjoyed the video! I can't wait to play it when I'm back home later this month! Did they replace the atmosphere with a new atmosphere, or is it just gone?

    • @Kirisu__Mafuyu
      @Kirisu__Mafuyu 2 месяца назад

      @@DogmasDomain With the number of enemies there are in the remake it loses too much tension, the game is also longer. This point in your video perfectly fits what I'm trying to say (9:19 until 10:39). tbh I don't like the new VA either. Graphically the game looks very good, that's true, but that's not really the problem. At least for me that atmosphere no longer exists. I don't want to give more examples because otherwise this would become very long (probably an unpopular opinion).

  • @lanceelopezz223
    @lanceelopezz223 2 месяца назад +1

    I appreciate how you formed your Own opinions, Untainted by what others keep saying about the game.

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад +1

      I think it's the best way to play/watch things lol

  • @joellarrosa5247
    @joellarrosa5247 2 месяца назад +1

    Play sh1 before sh3 for context reasons. As for sh2 all other characters besides Maria are real. Maria is supposed to represent James’s “ideal” version of Mary. While she was dying of terminal illness he couldn’t have any type of physical/sexual relationship with his wife which drove him to sexual frustration. It’s never implied or stated that he cheated from my knowledge but definitely implied that he was lusting for women/had sexual desires. All this to say Maria is an apparition created from James’s mind and memories of Mary by the town to represent those sexual desires and traits he wanted Mary to have while she was terminally ill, hence her clothing, hair, personality, etc. James’s story is basically about whether he falls for his desires and not owning up to his actions or he atones for his wrongdoings and rejects those desires and thoughts he had that drove him to off Mary. Angela and Eddie are in silent hill of their own accord. They both are dealing with their own traumas and reflect tones of the game not really other sides of James. Last but not least least a lot of the details and story is told through the environment, sh2 is a game that’s meant to be played more than once with the intention of going back with what you now know about the story and figuring out how and where the cues and story beats are told in the game. Besides that I think this is a great video, and this is how you perceived the story without any prior knowledge so don’t let anyone take that away from you and your experience

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад

      Appreciate the kind and enlightening comment! A lot of people have pointed out how wrong I was, but everyone agrees that it's a pretty unique take. Everyone is probably real and engaging with their trauma is certainly great as well. Someone said Laura was Mary's guiding light for James through silent hill. I'm excited to revisit the game eventually and play silent hill 1 and 3 as well!

  • @TheJerbro69
    @TheJerbro69 2 месяца назад +2

    Fun Fact: James HAS a Father...problem is,Frank Sunderland,is as weirdo as his son.

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад

      Do we learn about him in another game? And that checks out 😂

    • @chelsie2767
      @chelsie2767 2 месяца назад

      @@DogmasDomain yeah he’s the apartment manager in SH 4, the room.

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад

      @@chelsie2767 it will be played

  • @nerostark4320
    @nerostark4320 2 месяца назад

    Bloober team already said that the remake is bigger and it takes 16 to 18h to end the game and if you do the side quests, it can take more than 20h.

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад

      Well, let's see how they extend the run time... Hopefully it's well thought out and deliberate instead of just additional padding.

  • @BCJ1985
    @BCJ1985 2 месяца назад

    Angela, Eddie, Laura and James are all real as confirmed by the dev team.

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад

      Damn, I should delete the video

    • @BCJ1985
      @BCJ1985 2 месяца назад

      ​@@DogmasDomain Up to you.

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад

      @@BCJ1985 lol imagine

  • @uhuhuh1966
    @uhuhuh1966 2 месяца назад

    I wouldn’t say Maria is how James “perceived” his wife, more so Maria is everything Mary couldn’t be, Mary couldn’t flirt or be sexy or powerful like Maria because she was bedridden and couldn’t satisfy him in the way Maria can. Mary was also more conservative even before she was sick.

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад

      I'm unsure whether James would've married Mary if she couldn't satisfy his needs. Mary may have been more seductive before getting sick. I may have missed it, but do we know much about Mary before getting married and sick?

    • @uhuhuh1966
      @uhuhuh1966 2 месяца назад

      @@DogmasDomain it’s more so she couldn’t satisfy his needs once she got sick, hence why so many monsters have sexual aspects to them just like Maria. Also just because Mary was more conservative overall than Maria when she was healthy doesn’t mean she couldn’t satisfy him, it just means that Maria offers something new and exciting to him.

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад

      I see where you're coming from with the monsters, but I don't understand this Mary conservative sentiment. We don't know much or anything about their marriage other than it crumbling after Mary got sick, and how it impacted her which made things even harder. Since Maria is the spitting image of Mary, it's a fair assumption that's what James envisioned her as. I guess it begs the question whether Mary was like this before, but that's entirely speculation.

    • @uhuhuh1966
      @uhuhuh1966 2 месяца назад

      @@DogmasDomain it’s coming from their clothes and hair, Mary dressed conservatively and Maria dressed the opposite

    • @uhuhuh1966
      @uhuhuh1966 2 месяца назад

      @@DogmasDomainalso Mary wasn’t a stripper like Maria 😂

  • @gabrieltrillo7424
    @gabrieltrillo7424 2 месяца назад +1

    Silent hill 3 is the best silent hill game in my opinion

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад +1

      Can't wait to play it after the first!

  • @Bankaparilka
    @Bankaparilka 2 месяца назад

    Wow, this game looks like silent hill 2

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад

      The hills were indeed silent the second time

  • @adamsunderland0823
    @adamsunderland0823 2 месяца назад +1

    Good see other like minded takes. Regarding re456.

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  2 месяца назад

      The video won't be out for a while, but I recently finished streaming RE4 (2005) and I need to vent about that game. It's a highly influential action game with DNA we feel today, yet it doesn't really work as a Resident Evil game. I don't think anyone hates that game more than I do.... can't wait to make a video on it!

  • @MichaelGrinwis
    @MichaelGrinwis 2 месяца назад

    Triggered always triggered whoa why 😂😂😅😅😮😮

  • @Logan_Longcor
    @Logan_Longcor 2 месяца назад +1

    All the characters are real besides maria, they don't represent anything FOR JAMES, just over all tones

  • @Gilfredo616
    @Gilfredo616 3 месяца назад +2

    Bad video. No longer want to be a member. Unsubed, left the discord, blocked. Next time do a silent hill 1 video if you dont want to feel my wrath again (definitely not satire, wink wink nudge nudge)

    • @DogmasDomain
      @DogmasDomain  3 месяца назад +2

      Dogmasdomain fall off confirmed

  • @eetmyess5632
    @eetmyess5632 2 месяца назад

    So it basically rips of the principles of Hellraiaer and re-tells it without “the box”
    And lucky us is now getting a DEI treatment for the drones and drones of modern audience 😂😂

    • @casentinex1339
      @casentinex1339 2 месяца назад +1

      A game about five white people and a straight couple is DEI now?

    • @chelsie2767
      @chelsie2767 2 месяца назад

      Bro thinks Clive barker was the first person to come up with the idea of a personal hell 😅

  • @lanceelopezz223
    @lanceelopezz223 2 месяца назад

    24:18
    Disagree. 🙂‍↔️