The Opposite of Infinity - Numberphile

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @williammickelson403
    @williammickelson403 6 лет назад +3650

    Outfinity

    • @HelloKittyFanMan.
      @HelloKittyFanMan. 5 лет назад +21

      Haha!

    • @JamesM1994
      @JamesM1994 5 лет назад +86

      Exfinity

    • @devonqi
      @devonqi 5 лет назад +55

      outfoutity

    • @JamesM1994
      @JamesM1994 5 лет назад +37

      @@devonqi interior:exterior infinity:exfinity

    • @devonqi
      @devonqi 5 лет назад +7

      ​@@JamesM1994 i understand hehe.. im just makin a lil' lul bruv..

  • @regenald510
    @regenald510 8 лет назад +11150

    I hated math in school but now i realize after watching these videos that it wasn't math I hated, it was the class.

    • @el_kks_4361
      @el_kks_4361 8 лет назад +187

      +

    • @el_kks_4361
      @el_kks_4361 8 лет назад +171

      +

    • @brianmerritt5410
      @brianmerritt5410 8 лет назад +388

      Yeah, many people can't see the forest past the trees.

    • @NicksDomain101
      @NicksDomain101 8 лет назад +326

      I always thought that if we learned math not from other or from a book, but invented math ourselves under proper guidance, than we could all understand math very easily.

    • @johnsmith2848
      @johnsmith2848 8 лет назад +110

      But imagine if everyone had to be a genius to create 1000's of years of math progress. That system doesn't work, just like our own system.

  • @jackie2691
    @jackie2691 8 лет назад +374

    I love how all the people in these videos are so excited to talk about these things.

  • @Vidi
    @Vidi 4 года назад +99

    Dr. Grime's enthusiasm is immensely encouraging. Even the least curious among us must find his presentation engaging.
    I wonder whether any single person fortunate enough to have studied under his personal direction did not succeed. Bravo!

  • @kakalimukherjee3297
    @kakalimukherjee3297 5 лет назад +1074

    8:58
    You are a damn genius. You taught why the derivative is the inverse of the integral and what slope has to do with area in less than 30 seconds

    • @erdo4321
      @erdo4321 4 года назад +28

      what? he didnt say anything special.. what do you mean?

    • @Ztingjammer
      @Ztingjammer 4 года назад +136

      @@erdo4321 my guess is just that James described it in such a clear and intuitive way. Always love videos with James!

    • @jordantheoneandonly3880
      @jordantheoneandonly3880 4 года назад +7

      Ztingjammer same

    • @kakalimukherjee3297
      @kakalimukherjee3297 4 года назад +60

      He basically said that when you differentiate an integral, what you get is the function. This makes clear the fact that differentiation and integration are, by definition, opposite operations

    • @samklemm822
      @samklemm822 4 года назад +13

      Kakali Mukherjee 2nd Fundamental Theorem of Calculus ftw

  • @critstixdarkspear5375
    @critstixdarkspear5375 6 лет назад +545

    The amount of theory in his brain has impinged so hard on on his motor functions that he can no longer draw shapes. Bless him for the sacrifices he has made.

  • @NowhereManForever
    @NowhereManForever 9 лет назад +3916

    I like this sneaky way of teaching your viewers calculus without saying the scary C word.

    • @Reydriel
      @Reydriel 9 лет назад +222

      I was really enjoying that little calculus part XD

    • @NowhereManForever
      @NowhereManForever 9 лет назад +371

      It was all calculus

    • @VicvicW
      @VicvicW 9 лет назад +58

      Was it? Oooo interesting!

    • @oldcowbb
      @oldcowbb 9 лет назад +94

      +Vicvic W calculus is always interesting

    • @RFC3514
      @RFC3514 9 лет назад +47

      +NowhereManForever - 6:45

  • @_nines8270
    @_nines8270 3 года назад +1626

    And then the engineer comes along and says
    "Eh it's within 10%, it's fine..."

    • @maheiramkhan
      @maheiramkhan 3 года назад +13

      buhahhahaha! XD

    • @Кирилл-д6е4р
      @Кирилл-д6е4р 3 года назад +219

      Pi=3
      e=3
      Pi=е
      I'm a civil engineer 😎

    • @Alguem387
      @Alguem387 3 года назад +95

      @@Кирилл-д6е4р pi = 5 if it breaks it ain't my fault

    • @nickwilson3499
      @nickwilson3499 3 года назад +60

      @@Alguem387 just round everything to 1 or 0. Pi = 1

    • @StefanVeenstra
      @StefanVeenstra 3 года назад +59

      @@Кирилл-д6е4р You can have Euler's π but you may not eat it.

  • @13StJimmy
    @13StJimmy 5 лет назад +2173

    I’m pretty confident that if I had Dr. Grimes as a teacher I wouldn’t have switched majors and gone on to Calculus II

    • @lacroixemmanuel9684
      @lacroixemmanuel9684 4 года назад +9

      Je

    • @cygnus3543
      @cygnus3543 4 года назад +9

      can't stop the fire

    • @marcusderinger8892
      @marcusderinger8892 4 года назад +9

      Why can't you just flatten the curve line

    • @marcusderinger8892
      @marcusderinger8892 4 года назад +5

      You can find the distance of the curved line flatten it out and set it above to the lowest height point

    • @rahimeozsoy4244
      @rahimeozsoy4244 4 года назад +14

      I had a horrible teacher but I am in calc 2. I studied myself, didnt listen teacher. İt is your failure. Blaming your teacher is not a solution.

  • @giraculum9981
    @giraculum9981 5 лет назад +450

    10:00 "They discovered that Newton came up with it first. Leibniz then died..." what, like, immediately? That's harsh.

    • @Defectivania
      @Defectivania 4 года назад +123

      they roasted him straight into the grave

    • @feralcatgirl
      @feralcatgirl 4 года назад +22

      about three and a half years later, apparently

    • @maxwellsequation4887
      @maxwellsequation4887 4 года назад +4

      dx/100

    • @MMaker738
      @MMaker738 4 года назад +5

      Just correlation or causation - for some measurements we will probably never know...

  • @TiagoSeiler
    @TiagoSeiler 9 лет назад +61

    Teachers in school go: "Area of a circle is 2pi r^2". The kids ask why, and teachers just say "because it is". Two weeks after class everybody's already forgotten what the formula was. If we were taught WHY in school (just like this three minute segment at the start) we would never forget these things.

    • @EmperorZelos
      @EmperorZelos 9 лет назад +21

      +Tiago Seiler Most students would still forget because most humans are ignorant peasents.
      I am hwoever pro-understanding education.

    • @KPopsicleSNSD
      @KPopsicleSNSD 9 лет назад +6

      In this case... It kinda is. I mean Pi is a concept only understood when you understand that it is just a number derived from calculations.

    • @saintguel23
      @saintguel23 9 лет назад

      +EmperorZelos ./.

    • @EmperorZelos
      @EmperorZelos 9 лет назад

      Miguel Sambaan
      ?

    • @ulluubloo
      @ulluubloo 9 лет назад +4

      +EmperorZelos I infer you are the type of person who contributes little to society, yet is in full capability to do so.

  • @satanspotatoes
    @satanspotatoes 3 года назад +71

    My man just drew the worst circle ever and then proceeded to draw the most perfect f i have ever seen.
    You can see my amazement at 7:59

  • @mva2997
    @mva2997 9 лет назад +364

    4 AM on a work night, a video about the opposite of infinity? BRING IT

    • @AC_Blanco
      @AC_Blanco 9 лет назад

      Planing at night to occupy more countries?

    • @johnathan1784
      @johnathan1784 9 лет назад +2

      +ZeroSum Game Lmaooooo I see what you did there... must be Ukrainian aren't you?
      lml!

    • @tallevi2000
      @tallevi2000 9 лет назад +2

      +ZeroSum Game boy, that escalated quickly!!

    • @GuiltyGearRockYou
      @GuiltyGearRockYou 9 лет назад

      +Masha Vasilchikova haha good luck ;D

    • @TacoSt8
      @TacoSt8 9 лет назад +1

      .l.

  • @frosty1433
    @frosty1433 8 лет назад +4088

    My math teacher wouldn't accept work done in pen, and here this guy is using a permanent marker.

    • @michaelmapple8201
      @michaelmapple8201 8 лет назад +70

      ummmm doing symbolic math is annoying AF to do with computer so why he doesn't accept pens? Our proffessor uses old projector and markers at uni

    • @rakodlartv4565
      @rakodlartv4565 8 лет назад +175

      I think Shea means he wouldn't accept it in pen, but in pencil. There's a difference you know.

    • @frosty1433
      @frosty1433 8 лет назад +50

      I don't remember why, but pen doesn't erase.

    • @143mailliw
      @143mailliw 8 лет назад +19

      you cant erase water
      ink is a liquid

    • @TheRadioactiveFX
      @TheRadioactiveFX 8 лет назад +180

      My teacher wouldn't accept work done in anything other than pen.

  • @keithwilson6060
    @keithwilson6060 8 лет назад +803

    I love the way James says "noooomba."

  • @serenes
    @serenes 4 года назад +1839

    "let's say I have a circle"...draws lopsided potato
    edit: this is meant to be a humorous observation I have nothing against his theoretical circle

    • @gnochhuos645
      @gnochhuos645 4 года назад +19

      Let’s see you try then

    • @TXejas19
      @TXejas19 4 года назад +10

      😂😂😂

    • @EE-wp9qr
      @EE-wp9qr 4 года назад +41

      you aint got nothing on spongebob bro

    • @DrWizardMother
      @DrWizardMother 4 года назад +7

      😂😂😂

    • @ammyvl1
      @ammyvl1 4 года назад +18

      He's a mathematician, not an artist

  • @weebo1612
    @weebo1612 8 лет назад +387

    Never Liked math until I started watching this channel.

    • @jay.ahre1
      @jay.ahre1 8 лет назад +1

      Never liked math.

    • @Dark88Dragon
      @Dark88Dragon 8 лет назад +1

      Hm Shii, I am the complete opposite. In elementary school I was by far the best, but when I changed to "gymnasium" I was seriously fcked up and dropped to average. -.-

    • @Dark88Dragon
      @Dark88Dragon 8 лет назад

      Yeah no problem, I also love to play games like MGS ;)

    • @Dark88Dragon
      @Dark88Dragon 8 лет назад

      It is indeed, Hideo Kojima ftw! ^^

    • @groszak1
      @groszak1 7 лет назад

      I loved math but hated this channel as it's mostly incorrect.

  • @eaglehorse3323
    @eaglehorse3323 7 лет назад +1088

    Isn't the opposite to infinity finity

    • @RWBHere
      @RWBHere 6 лет назад +159

      Yes, but not in mathematics. Mathematicians are very strange people.

    • @tgbrowning3002
      @tgbrowning3002 6 лет назад +105

      By that reasoning it should be out finity. :)

    • @grabern
      @grabern 6 лет назад +2

      XD

    • @TheRandomBiscuit
      @TheRandomBiscuit 6 лет назад +34

      Nah, it's ytinifni

    • @ManHeyuan
      @ManHeyuan 6 лет назад +17

      The deception of logic:
      Take a wooden chopstick, with length measuring 20cm.
      Break it in half into 2 and we now get 2 sticks, each measuring 10cm in length.
      20 = 10 + 10
      20 - (10 + 10) = 0
      What is lost in-between? Absolutely nothing!
      Suppose you were required to draw a line in the center of the original stick before cutting it in half.
      Where would you draw the line, with nothing in-between?
      To know what 3-D is exactly, first imagine 1-D and 2-D in their purest forms.
      Can anything possibly exist in just a 1-dimensional or 2-dimensional form?
      If 1-D and 2-D were totally imaginary, how real could a 3-D object be? 🤔
      Are you able to reconcile 3-dimensional concept with reality?
      Theory: The entire Universe began from a single point.
      Now, what is the smallest possible point?
      It is impossible to reconcile this theory with logic as well.
      Can you draw a "perfect circle" using a compass, without the smallest possible point?
      Question nothing, to question everything. 🙂

  • @folumb
    @folumb 7 лет назад +109

    Thanks for giving Leibniz some shine, he also has some very interesting philosophical works if you enjoy logic employed in a different way

  • @greendeathification
    @greendeathification 4 года назад +13

    I honestly had no idea what this person was talking about for the majority of this video, but I watched whole thing because I enjoyed watching his genuine enthusiasm for the topic and for math

  • @manual1415
    @manual1415 7 лет назад +362

    I will become a mathematician, just so i can write on brown paper with green sharpies.

    • @blue9139
      @blue9139 6 лет назад +4

      Manuel Pilarczyk
      Lol

    • @HelloKittyFanMan.
      @HelloKittyFanMan. 5 лет назад +7

      ...As long as you do it without using random commas like the one here between "mathematician" and "just."

    • @olipolygon
      @olipolygon 5 лет назад +2

      @@HelloKittyFanMan. They said mathematician, not an English major 😊

    • @sherllymentalism4756
      @sherllymentalism4756 5 лет назад

      Did you?

  • @RenoLuke
    @RenoLuke 6 лет назад +1733

    Little known fact: George and Fred Weasley aren’t twins, they are in fact triplets and the third became a mathmagician

    • @someone4650
      @someone4650 5 лет назад +168

      They’re twins again now.

    • @kekorulesatlab3133
      @kekorulesatlab3133 5 лет назад +95

      @@someone4650 duuudde..... I was getting over it and now you've ruined it

    • @kingigzorn7680
      @kingigzorn7680 5 лет назад +12

      That took a second

    • @n0ame1u1
      @n0ame1u1 5 лет назад +69

      @@someone4650 They're still triplets; the death of one does not change the status of their birth.

    • @HN-kr1nf
      @HN-kr1nf 5 лет назад +19

      @@n0ame1u1 THE QUAGMIRES

  • @llucer3505
    @llucer3505 7 лет назад +1159

    '8' is the opposite of infinity ;-)

    • @loginid7108
      @loginid7108 6 лет назад +23

      or it is rotation at 90deg ( counter or clockwise)

    • @damplamp
      @damplamp 6 лет назад +62

      thatsthejoke.jpeg

    • @tjw_
      @tjw_ 6 лет назад +38

      infinity * i = 8

    • @Russtopia
      @Russtopia 6 лет назад +10

      ... ∞i (complex infinity) ? :)

    • @XanderFenikkusu
      @XanderFenikkusu 6 лет назад +7

      Devendra S wooooooosh

  • @bogogaming7736
    @bogogaming7736 4 года назад +37

    This is literally the basics of Calculus and I never really realized it until now
    Edit: I commented literally right before he started going over calculus. Wack

  • @naysonbigelow6907
    @naysonbigelow6907 4 года назад +354

    7:00
    He literally just summed up an entire semester of calculus in just a couple minutes
    This man is a genius

    • @LikelyToBeEatenByAGrue
      @LikelyToBeEatenByAGrue 4 года назад +52

      Either you had a really terrible calculus class or you were a terrible student if that's all you learned in a semester.

    • @grariee
      @grariee 3 года назад +9

      @Alt Account some mathematics teachers don't really know mathematical concepts that well . so , some of the students aren't exposed to this correct explanation . instead , the teachers only teach their students formulas of calculus .

    • @pexfmezccle
      @pexfmezccle 2 года назад

      @Alt Account maybe it's a high school semester

  • @infinitejinpachi
    @infinitejinpachi 8 лет назад +1031

    the opposite of infinity is my will to live

  • @grandmastarflash
    @grandmastarflash 6 лет назад +2221

    anyone that thinks they have found the worlds smallest number obviously haven't seen my bank balance

    • @thewarlord6529
      @thewarlord6529 6 лет назад +8

      Grand masterflash lol

    • @blue9139
      @blue9139 6 лет назад +5

      Lol

    • @JayTemple
      @JayTemple 6 лет назад +120

      Mine's not small. It's large. And negative.

    • @kungfuskull
      @kungfuskull 5 лет назад +32

      I was really expecting that to end in a genitals joke. :p

    • @jwm239
      @jwm239 5 лет назад +7

      ...hmm... a finite candidate for smallest positive number is the reciprocal of a googleplex raised to the googleplex power a googleplex times.

  • @elfinthekitchen
    @elfinthekitchen 3 года назад +345

    "There are lots of infinitesmals."
    Understatement of the century.

    • @davidgumazon
      @davidgumazon 3 года назад +7

      infinite of infinitesimals = infinite
      Uhhhhhhhhh.....................................................................................

    • @notfunny5021
      @notfunny5021 3 года назад +5

      @@davidgumazon i dont think you got the joke

    • @elfinthekitchen
      @elfinthekitchen 3 года назад +2

      @Demi AngelCat 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @rohangeorge712
      @rohangeorge712 2 года назад +9

      @@davidgumazon infinity infintesmals = 1

    • @user-kb8gm4tv4x
      @user-kb8gm4tv4x 2 года назад +3

      there are as many infinitesmals as real numbers. number of hyperreals is also same as real numbers.

  • @radovanandjelic954
    @radovanandjelic954 9 лет назад +61

    If any of my professors where this good at explaining things and this excited to teach it to people maybe I would have learned something... Now everything I know about math is what I saw on these videos and some research I did after watching their clips...

    • @error.418
      @error.418 9 лет назад +1

      +Theoretica If only Sal didn't stutter/repeat himself in that obnoxious way when he tries to write and talk, I would be much more interested in his lectures

    • @cdsmetalhead99
      @cdsmetalhead99 9 лет назад +7

      +Radovan Andjelic Except this is only a very basic introduction meant for laymen. It doesn't teach you any of the actual mathematics behind the ideas, like limits, differentiation, integration, or other basic analysis. If a professor taught even a first-year calculus course like this, there's no way the course could be finished in one semester.

    • @error.418
      @error.418 9 лет назад +1

      cdsmetalhead99 False. This is a 15 minute video. It could very well be used as the segue into teaching limits.

    • @cdsmetalhead99
      @cdsmetalhead99 9 лет назад +2

      +Anonymous User They are not introduced in a mathematically rigorous way. It is clearly meant for laymen.

    • @cdsmetalhead99
      @cdsmetalhead99 9 лет назад

      +Radovan Andjelic I can appreciate that.

  • @General12th
    @General12th 8 лет назад +34

    I loved that demonstration of the fundamental theorem of calculus. Absolutely beautiful and simple and excellent!

    • @General12th
      @General12th 8 лет назад +1

      Valera 8 No, I don't have to do anything.

    • @largolagrande7837
      @largolagrande7837 8 лет назад

      No estaría 'troleando' a nadie, sólo escribiendo mal. 2 pequeñas correcciones si me permites: *I'm really sorry *Not Spanish but Spaniard. Saludos.

  • @SuburbAllied
    @SuburbAllied 8 лет назад +580

    When I started to watch this video I had a finite amount of brain cells. When returning to my math homework, I realized I actually had an infinitesimal amount of brain cells.

    • @georgeabreu6392
      @georgeabreu6392 7 лет назад +18

      SuburbAllied Was this an intended pun?

    • @BlueSquad00
      @BlueSquad00 7 лет назад +7

      you had to check the spelling of infinitesimal, didnt u

    • @discordant8543
      @discordant8543 7 лет назад

      SuburbAllied well you have to be more specific, what are you classifying as brain cells? Just neurons? Or any cell in the brain? It's been est that the adult male human brain, at an average of 1.5 kg, has 86 billion neurons and 85 billion non-neuronal cells

    • @namelastname4077
      @namelastname4077 7 лет назад

      hang in there, my friend. newton described himself as a little boy on the beach, that, every once in a while, found a stone that was a bit more shiny than the rest.

  • @alperyoloyilmaz5388
    @alperyoloyilmaz5388 4 года назад +26

    I recommend the book written by Keisler named Elementary Calculus. It uses infinitesimals to teach calculus.
    Also great video!
    I made a presentation and speech about this for school this year and seeing this made me really happy that the area is more popular than I thought.

  • @areadenial2343
    @areadenial2343 4 года назад +47

    An interesting thing I found on Wikipedia is the projectively extended real line, where the number line is wrapped around into a circle, and the point where they meet is infinity, which is neither positive nor negative. In this system, x/0 is equal to infinity, and x/infinity is equal to zero. The coolest part is that it would also work with complex numbers if you wrapped the plane of real and complex numbers into a sphere, which is the Riemann sphere.

    • @R0llingHard
      @R0llingHard 2 года назад +1

      I always thought x/infinity would be equal to infinitesimal

    • @DanielRossellSolanes
      @DanielRossellSolanes Год назад +2

      @@R0llingHard and that's because infinitesimal IS equal to zero.
      the usual definition of infinitesimal is "a number that's as close as possible to zero without being zero" problem is that such number can't exist since we can always get the average between zero and whatever number you believe to be infinitesimal.
      but, if you define infinitesimal as "the smallest non-negative irrational" then, infinitesimal = 0.
      the only difference between both definitions is the inclusion of 0 and that you can't use the average trick anymore.
      the issue of the cylinder, shown in the video, having volume while it's cross sections have heigh zero can be explained because we have infinite cross sections so they add to 0*infinity (which isn't defined)

    • @edwardpotereiko
      @edwardpotereiko Год назад +3

      The infinitesimal is not equal to zero as the hyper reals can show. And the infinitesimal is also not a number, an all-too-common misconception.

    • @MuffinsAPlenty
      @MuffinsAPlenty Год назад

      @@DanielRossellSolanes "the usual definition of infinitesimal is "a number that's as close as possible to zero without being zero""
      Usual definition in which context? I have typically seen infinitesimals described as something like "positive numbers which are smaller than every positive real number." But I may not have experienced the same contexts as you, so I'm genuinely curious!

    • @omnipresentcatgod245
      @omnipresentcatgod245 Год назад

      ​@@edwardpotereikoWe're talking about standard real numbers system, No field extensions are related to it.

  • @MultiWafflemaster
    @MultiWafflemaster 9 лет назад +906

    Wouldn't the mathematical opposite of infinity be negative infinity? I would consider an infinitesimal to be the inverse of infinity.

    • @numberphile
      @numberphile  9 лет назад +772

      +MultiWafflemaster I feel like I get what he was saying.... What is the opposite of the "biggest thing" - it is the "smallest thing" or "negative the biggest thing".
      I guess it is like what is the opposite of being unimaginably rich? Is it being really poor, or being in debt?
      Both arguments hold water for me.
      The problem with "negative the big thing" is that it still has a kind of great magnitude in my mind.
      Just one man's musings.

    • @TheGingeize
      @TheGingeize 9 лет назад +307

      +MultiWafflemaster Infinity is a concept, not a number. Surely the opposite of something too big to measure is something too small to measure?

    • @L0LWTF1337
      @L0LWTF1337 9 лет назад +78

      The inverse of an number depends on the group you are in. If it is addition, then the negative value is the inverse. If it is multiplication it is one divided by the value. If it is NxN matrix then you inverse the matrix. If it is MxN matrix, then you need a pseudo inverse.

    • @lachiagnew4292
      @lachiagnew4292 9 лет назад +26

      +MultiWafflemaster No it wouldn't because they both have the same magnitude but in different directions. If that makes sense? Like if I asked what would be the opposite of the word huge you wouldn't say oh negative huge!

    • @nal8503
      @nal8503 9 лет назад +4

      +Lachi Agnew Read +L0LWTF1337 's post. Both answers are right, due to lack of further specification.

  • @meyupme9854
    @meyupme9854 5 лет назад +147

    Did any one noticed the picture that got mixed with Kepler's photo in 4:22 XD

    • @robertbell2159
      @robertbell2159 5 лет назад +38

      Warrick Capper, an AFL star and meme

    • @meyupme9854
      @meyupme9854 5 лет назад +7

      @@robertbell2159 thanks for the clarification dude

    • @McAllen07
      @McAllen07 3 года назад

      @@meyupme9854 This isn't the only time I've seen his picture show up in an academic video. He shows up the same way in the Teaching Company series about the American Civil War I think.

    • @adamestrada7610
      @adamestrada7610 3 года назад

      A little late but I think this is also a clever reference to Kepler-39, 39 being the number on the jersey worn by Warrick Capper. Could be coincidental, tho.

  • @stensoft
    @stensoft 4 года назад +457

    Newton: I have invented calculus
    Leibniz: I have invented calculus
    Newton: That sounds derivative

    • @BritishBeachcomber
      @BritishBeachcomber 4 года назад +76

      Leibniz: but integral to the problem...

    • @nidhinbenny7975
      @nidhinbenny7975 4 года назад +16

      @@BritishBeachcomber Damn I was gonna say something like this...

    • @MrParry1976
      @MrParry1976 3 года назад +15

      let's set a limit to the level they can go down fighting

    • @rohangeorge712
      @rohangeorge712 2 года назад +4

      @@MrParry1976 it may never end, there maybe no limit

  • @BarendNieuwoudtZA
    @BarendNieuwoudtZA 5 лет назад +81

    Honestly if it was explained to me this way, I would actually have understood what I was doing at uni

  • @oskarpaulander4027
    @oskarpaulander4027 4 года назад +16

    Happy to see a video about this!
    Wrote my bachelor's thesis on this very subject. It's an interesting area of mathematics that I hope will get more visibility. Specifically we looked at Picard's theorem and how much simpler the proof is by using non standard analysis (I'm far from competent enough to understand the standard proof).
    It's beautiful, massively useful and intuitive in a way that limits aren't.
    That being said. Both are needed

  • @d4nielDayZContent
    @d4nielDayZContent 9 лет назад +481

    I love this guy. - Am I alone?

  • @topilinkala1594
    @topilinkala1594 3 года назад +121

    In multivariable calculus one calculates with differentials as they were just ordinary variables and it all works out and is rigorous and consistent. But differentials are not numbers.

    • @alice_in_wonderland42
      @alice_in_wonderland42 3 года назад +13

      Or are they?

    • @ninja8flash742
      @ninja8flash742 3 года назад +20

      Vsauce music plays

    • @pokedart9001
      @pokedart9001 2 года назад +3

      Enter... the *hyperreals.*

    • @heartache5742
      @heartache5742 2 года назад

      deleuze borrows differentials from calculus
      he says that they are the infinitesimal blocks of change itself
      their relative magnitudes dictate the nature of encounters
      think of omicron notation, two functions come together and one may overwhelm the other
      and he says that the way they have been marginalised, the way "instantaneous change" has been termed an oxymoron instead of a generative paradox, is basically the attempt of state science to enforce thinking in terms of only being and identity
      as opposed to becoming and difference
      differentials will always be too small for state machinery, from this comes said machinery's imprecision, the inevitable "negligible" error to which pure difference has been relegated (dialecticians call this "negation")
      instead of putting up with this failure, the imperfection of the world compared to the actual numerical measurements with which we seek to capture it, deleuze says we have to finally start thinking of pure difference itself, because it is what drives being
      the way the derivative drives a function with infinitesimal steps

    • @bobob1292
      @bobob1292 2 года назад +3

      @@heartache5742 Sir this is a Wendy's

  • @arandomchannel1101
    @arandomchannel1101 5 лет назад +173

    Infinity can't be rotated the opposite way... homever if you rotate it 90 degrees it will become 8.

    • @jimbo9129
      @jimbo9129 5 лет назад +8

      damm.. mind blown. halarious tho

    • @griseld
      @griseld 4 года назад +1

      this dude just broke math

    • @nickpro8116
      @nickpro8116 4 года назад +1

      But a ninety degree rotation is multiplying by i

  • @tweedyburd007
    @tweedyburd007 5 лет назад +167

    7:00 unknowingly makes pi

    • @anushrao882
      @anushrao882 4 года назад +4

      I see it!?!

    • @BroArmyCommander
      @BroArmyCommander 4 года назад +4

      @@KaliFissure what is the what?

    • @Bollibompa
      @Bollibompa 4 года назад +2

      @@KaliFissure
      No. The Planck length is a fundamental metric of the dimension of length. Asking for an opposite is a non-sequitur.

    • @dominictwaites2721
      @dominictwaites2721 3 года назад +2

      How? I don't see it

    • @Seth_M-T
      @Seth_M-T 3 года назад +2

      @dominic twaites When he draws the two outer vertical lines, it sort of looks like the symbol for pi. :)

  • @ThomasGodart
    @ThomasGodart 9 лет назад +7

    Thank you James Grime for saying that 1/infinitesimal is infinity, which means that the other Numberphile videos about 1/infinity equals 0 are false! The good way to see infinity is that one that you just used: 1/infinity equals infinitesimal and defines infinitesimal, and 1/0 having no answer

    • @douggwyn9656
      @douggwyn9656 9 лет назад

      +Thomas Godart Except that it is wrong.

    • @MoltenMetal613
      @MoltenMetal613 9 лет назад +3

      +Thomas Godart lim x-->infinity 1/x=0
      lim x-->0 (+) 1/x=infinity
      lim x-->0 (-) 1=x= - infinity
      Infinity is not a number, meaning that problems that involve it have to use limits.

    • @douggwyn9656
      @douggwyn9656 9 лет назад

      +BlackSkullRacer613 One-sided limits are often useful. Since the whole infinitesimal/illimited etc. discussion has been confined to the nonnegative numbers, the limit while approaching 0 from above is relevant.

  • @avishankarsardar6981
    @avishankarsardar6981 3 года назад +39

    With teachers like him one can never hate maths

    • @TheFrewah
      @TheFrewah 8 месяцев назад +2

      I always loved math but not necessarily all of my teachers

  • @jakeequilar5476
    @jakeequilar5476 9 лет назад +103

    I saw what you did there at 4:22 Numberphile

    • @jakeequilar5476
      @jakeequilar5476 9 лет назад

      +stingersplash16 watch it again, pay real close attention to the video and you'll see it!

    • @sorlag110
      @sorlag110 9 лет назад +1

      +Jake Equilar kepler 39? the planetary system?

    • @thomask.2726
      @thomask.2726 9 лет назад +1

      +Jake Equilar Who is this guy having the number 39 on his back?

    • @madokaonline
      @madokaonline 9 лет назад +3

      +Thomas Korbacher indeed who is he? O _ o

    • @thomask.2726
      @thomask.2726 9 лет назад +2

      warwick capper haha

  • @Quasihamster
    @Quasihamster 7 лет назад +50

    "There's soomthing about it that makes you ooncoompfable!"
    Love that accent :D

  • @Magnogen
    @Magnogen 6 лет назад +305

    I think I understand...
    Is it:
    infinitesimal = 1/∞
    ???

    • @user-rd7jv4du1w
      @user-rd7jv4du1w 5 лет назад +46

      Basically

    • @brianheight
      @brianheight 5 лет назад +18

      That's what I always thought, and the only reason I came to the comments!

    • @MsAlfred1996
      @MsAlfred1996 5 лет назад +79

      NO
      You can not divide by infinity, it is not a number

    • @4ka07_muhammadrizky
      @4ka07_muhammadrizky 5 лет назад +46

      @@MsAlfred1996 you are right it can only happen in limits

    • @paulpaul5972
      @paulpaul5972 5 лет назад +7

      Sorry for my bad English!
      0,0=infinitesimal
      ∞=infinitely large
      0=naught
      ᴑ=impossible

  • @luctapia
    @luctapia 2 года назад +2

    Wow, i remember watching these videos as a kid, not understanding literally anything, now im on calc 3 and this is a really nice summary!!!! It really shows your teaching abilities when you can captivate a kid with no knowledge or conception of calculus and do it again to the same person many years later!!!!! Thank you

  • @aliaqarahimi5410
    @aliaqarahimi5410 5 лет назад +10

    Whenever im super tired or need sth to entertain my soul, i watch the clips of this channel. Thank you :-)

  • @technoultimategaming2999
    @technoultimategaming2999 5 лет назад +782

    Smallest possible number that's still bigger than 0....
    Just look at my exam results

  • @FishKungfu
    @FishKungfu 9 лет назад +109

    It'd be cool if there were Numberphile action figures, or even just 3D printed figurines of 3D full body scans of our Numberphiles Heros. This would definitely include a "Brady" with a replaceable exploding head for every time his mind is blown.

    • @FernieCanto
      @FernieCanto 9 лет назад +18

      +Fish Kungfu I feel there should be action figures for all of Brady's channel: James for Numberphile, Prof. Polyakoff for Periodic Videos, Prof. Moriarty for Sixty Symbols... Ooh, this would be so fun.

    • @tirsoacuna1356
      @tirsoacuna1356 9 лет назад +2

      +Fernie Canto I'd definitely buy a figurine of James!

    • @MarkusHobelsberger
      @MarkusHobelsberger 9 лет назад +2

      +Fernie Canto Don't forget the legendary Keith from the Royal Society from Objectivity ;)

    • @umbreon8527
      @umbreon8527 9 лет назад +2

      +Fernie Canto CLIFF. STOLL.

    • @AstaMuratti
      @AstaMuratti 9 лет назад +1

      +Fish Kungfu it would be a great idea for kickstarter project) definitely for it)))

  • @Jameshazfisher
    @Jameshazfisher 3 года назад +4

    I prefer the circle area proof that rearranges the wedges in an alternating zig-zag to form a rectangle, with one side r and the other side pi*r. It's a cleaner proof because it doesn't skew the wedges, and the area of a rectangle is slightly more trivial than the area of a triangle.

  • @cedricgist7614
    @cedricgist7614 4 года назад +5

    I enjoy the work of Numberphile - Dr Grimes et al. You guys really love your work and it's infectious. Thank you.

  • @leonardoacuna8970
    @leonardoacuna8970 8 лет назад +94

    Am I the only person who spends his days watching videos like this not knowing wtf these people are talking about but still liking them

  • @newtonrhapson1453
    @newtonrhapson1453 8 лет назад +11

    The problem of Math teacher in school are they teach only about calculating instead appliance and conceptual meaning.
    I'm not fond with Math in HS until go to college and learn about actual calculus from my lecturer and how they can be discovered

  • @shahrukhs1637
    @shahrukhs1637 3 года назад +3

    Before starting video, I was thinking, oh that's so simple. This guy's going to teach us about limits. Lim(1/X) ,X→∞
    Then as the video started, "oh is it something different? Seems like he is going towards integration
    by the end of the video, I'm happy, and also realized I'm rusty. Thankyou

  • @KaneCowboyCo
    @KaneCowboyCo 8 лет назад +47

    mathematics such as calculus are difficult to many because too many have been taught since they first entered grade school that math is a memorization game.

    • @RMeitzen
      @RMeitzen 8 лет назад +3

      +pantheryou Not really, if you understand the principle you don't need to memorize anything.

    • @laughy38247357075834
      @laughy38247357075834 8 лет назад

      It's not difficult. It's only difficult if you don't want to learn it

    • @KaneCowboyCo
      @KaneCowboyCo 8 лет назад +9

      R. Rain re-read my post. what you have typed is precisely my point.

    • @JITCompilation
      @JITCompilation 7 лет назад +1

      +pantheryou i absolutely agree. Math is really just logic and philosophy. If you understand the logic behind it without the numbers, then you can do the math but most people believe that math is a dark magic where stuff just gets pulled out of mathematicians hats

  • @morphman86
    @morphman86 7 лет назад +55

    2 years later and I finally realize why the base of the triangle isn't infinitely long.
    It has infinitesimals which is an infinite number of slices. Each slice can be sliced in two again, meaning you can never run out of slices, so why isn't the base infinitely long?
    Well, every time you slice the slices, they'll be half the size, so the length of the base have not changed at all. Stacking two triangles with a base of 1 is the same as stacking one of length 2 or 4 of length 0.5, so it doesn't matter how many times you split it, the length will always be the same. So the length is the same, the height is always the radius and therefore the area will not be infinite.

    • @scottb9997
      @scottb9997 6 лет назад +4

      the triangles go around the circle so when you add up the triangles bases it equals the circumferences of the circle
      so imagine the circumference is 3
      the 3 is divided infinitely so the base of each triangle is 3/(inf) now to form the triangle we want to add all the base together and because the base of each triangle is the same we can multiply by how many triangles there is which is infinity
      so we get (3/inf)*inf the 2 infinitys cancel and we are left with 3

    • @HuchiaZ
      @HuchiaZ 6 лет назад +1

      Welcome to the Super Task

    • @abhiramababa
      @abhiramababa 6 лет назад +5

      Welcome to convergent infinite series. Heard of Zeno's paradox?

  • @BearshiMisnes
    @BearshiMisnes 6 лет назад +82

    "I'm so rich, I can throw pennies around."
    Great job Dr. Grime

    • @Perririri
      @Perririri 2 года назад

      One pence coins, not one cent coins.

  • @philh4807
    @philh4807 4 года назад +6

    Even though I have been out of college since 1989 when I got my BS in chemistry, this guy might have made me change my major to math.

  • @seven9399
    @seven9399 4 года назад +14

    This guy is awesome he literally breathes life into Mathematics for those who hate maths, now find out it was probably just the class you was in.

  • @SlenderMiner99
    @SlenderMiner99 7 лет назад +405

    Before watching the entire video:
    ∞/1 = ∞
    1/∞ = [opposite of ∞]

  • @josephjackson1956
    @josephjackson1956 3 года назад +10

    I find it amazing that Newton and Leibniz both came up with Calculus independently.

    • @MuffinsAPlenty
      @MuffinsAPlenty 2 года назад +13

      This actually happens a decent amount throughout the history of science and mathematics.
      Newton and Leibniz were both very intelligent people, but people today often view them as some sort of super mega geniuses who developed calculus all on their own. The state of mathematics when they both lived was ripe for the development of calculus. If Newton and Leibniz had not done it, someone else probably would have within the next 20 years or so anyway.
      The idea behind integrals (the method of exhaustion, like what is shown in this video to get the area of a circle) existed for millennia before Newton and Leibniz. About 50 years before Newton, René Descartes introduced coordinate geometry, which was a fundamental step toward developing calculus. Around the same time Pierre de Fermat posed the question of how to find the tangent line to a curve at any given point. Within about 20 years before Newton, James Gregory gave the first sort of argument for the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus - it was a highly geometric argument which connected areas under curves with the tangent lines of those curves. Later, Isaac Barrow developed the tool of infinitesimals and used it to solve Fermat's tangent line problem. Barrow also gave the first rudimentary proof of the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus using his infinitesimal techniques.
      Then we get to Newton. Isaac Newton was a student of Isaac Barrow and learned about infinitesimals (and how they relate to tangent lines and the big connection in the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus) from Barrow. Essentially, Newton was in exactly the right place at the right time to develop calculus. Pretty much all of the requisite tools had been developed right before he started his studies, and he learned directly how to use the last necessary tool from the very person who developed it. Newton saw how to put these tools together in a meaningful way, and more importantly, saw an application (physics).
      While Leibniz doesn't have the tools handed to him on a silver platter like Newton did, Leibniz still lived in the historical context where people knew about the method of exhaustion and already had coordinate geometry. People cared about Fermat's problem, and knew about Gregory's connection between area and slope. All it takes is for Leibniz to do the same thing Barrow did and just imagine the infinitely small and then run with it.
      This is what I mean when I say that the mathematics community was "ripe" for the development of calculus. The general trend of mathematical thinking and interest were moving toward calculus anyway and both Newton and Leibniz happened to be the right people living in the right places at the right time.
      Math and science are rarely developed solely by lone mega geniuses.
      (Another example of this phenomenon is the theory of relativity. Although we credit Einstein for the theory, he also lived in a context where people were studying and developing the same sorts of things. There are many mathematicians including Henri Poincaré and David Hilbert whose ideas about relativity were instrumental to getting the full theory. Yet science history tends to wipe away the contributions of everyone but Einstein and paint a faulty narrative of Einstein as a lone super mega genius who did everything without anyone's help. No, he lived in a context which was ripe for his ideas.)

  • @abdi8543
    @abdi8543 4 года назад +2

    Because of him i changed my major. I was only 14 years old when i had to make the decision, now 3 years later iam happy i met him.

  • @daveayerstdavies
    @daveayerstdavies 3 года назад +3

    If you alternate the orientation of the small triangles, you don't need to stretch them. You end up with a regular rectangle with height r and base pi r. Simpler and more convincing than the stretched triangles method.

  • @Vethreth
    @Vethreth 4 года назад +3

    This is why we need passionate people to teach us instead of teachers with no passion.
    I wish I had access to such quality content during my scholarship (and that my English would allow me to understand, of course).
    Anyway, it's still really interesting. I didn't know I'd actually have fun learning about mathematics.
    Thanks for this gem! =)

  • @ImJustACowLol
    @ImJustACowLol 9 лет назад +50

    The opposite of infinity is finity. The end.

    • @MadaxeMunkeee
      @MadaxeMunkeee 9 лет назад +7

      Cool.

    • @Th3BlackLotus
      @Th3BlackLotus 9 лет назад +6

      +MadaxeMunkeee story

    • @maj.peppers3332
      @maj.peppers3332 9 лет назад +6

      +Leon Gerity Bro

    • @voiceinthevoid14
      @voiceinthevoid14 9 лет назад +2

      +ImJustACowLol Sir you are a true genius.

    • @ImJustACowLol
      @ImJustACowLol 9 лет назад

      +This Could Be You!!! Thank you, thank you. I just received word that I am nominated for the Nobel Price of Mathematics. It is the first time such a nobel price is going to be given, as prior to this date the Nobel Price for Mathematics did not exist yet. Awesome, right?

  • @mayursoowamber7549
    @mayursoowamber7549 3 года назад +2

    I wish I had this man during Uni 😭 The amount of understanding that just occurred in just 15 mins

  • @hiimapop7755
    @hiimapop7755 5 лет назад +135

    "...cos I'm so rich I can throw my pennies around."
    Ahh taking quotes in 2019, amirite?

    • @mk_rexx
      @mk_rexx 4 года назад +2

      But if I throw my pennies around, I would get arrested.

  • @architmahatorollno.332
    @architmahatorollno.332 4 года назад +66

    Literally every mathamatician
    MY DRAWING IS BAD

  • @stephenlandrum2262
    @stephenlandrum2262 4 года назад +4

    The entire thing I was just waiting for the next time he says “area” he holds out the a and it’s awesome

  • @priyanshupokhriyal1677
    @priyanshupokhriyal1677 2 года назад +5

    I used to hate maths until I discovered your channel, thank you! ♥️

  • @rogersledz6793
    @rogersledz6793 3 года назад +5

    Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!

  • @teekanne15
    @teekanne15 9 лет назад +7

    the feeling of "it works for daily usage but somehow im not happy cause I disregarded a little fact" is what bothered me in school so much

    • @gimpdoctor8362
      @gimpdoctor8362 9 лет назад +3

      +teekanne15 well limits get around the error by just essentially saying "i bet that you can't make that error ever give me a wrong answer because i can always draw enough triangles" hence the standard epsilon-delta proofs.

    • @douggwyn9656
      @douggwyn9656 9 лет назад +1

      +Ben Nutley What we actually do is the equivalent of "Tell me how much error in the result you will allow, and we'll find a small enough delta (or large enough N, in some cases), that our procedure will be at least that accurate."

  • @sikanderali3170
    @sikanderali3170 5 лет назад +184

    Is no body going to talk about the picture at 04:22?

    • @sikanderali3170
      @sikanderali3170 5 лет назад +14

      The basketball player!!!

    • @AmadeuShinChan
      @AmadeuShinChan 5 лет назад +12

      [ 4:20 + 0:02= ? ]

    • @televized
      @televized 5 лет назад +9

      39?

    • @e2theeyepie
      @e2theeyepie 5 лет назад +26

      I had to Google it, but the 39 on the guy's jersey + mentioning Kepler might be a reference to the brown dwarf star Kepler-39.
      Edited to add: someone else on here ID'ed the guy as Australian footballer Warwick Capper.

    • @Ruheschrei
      @Ruheschrei 4 года назад +1

      Yeah whats that about....

  • @wesrobertson8753
    @wesrobertson8753 3 года назад +1

    Am I the only person that gets chills from the idea and sound of marker on construction paper!?

  • @thomasking7659
    @thomasking7659 3 года назад +8

    Thank you Fred Weasley, these videos are really interesting.

  • @bytemegga
    @bytemegga 7 лет назад +413

    *sees f(x)* *PTSD fires up*

    • @katyameowmeow
      @katyameowmeow 6 лет назад +18

      Blan Morrison reminds them of awful high school math classes

    • @amr-bw4gf
      @amr-bw4gf 5 лет назад +10

      Unit circle fires up my ptsd

    • @nathanashman7302
      @nathanashman7302 5 лет назад +2

      💀

    • @alimcpeake2675
      @alimcpeake2675 5 лет назад

      2pir made me habe flashbacks

    • @jorgepeterbarton
      @jorgepeterbarton 5 лет назад

      yes i was there, a suicide bomber detonated during the exams @@katyameowmeow

  • @griplimit
    @griplimit 4 года назад +123

    Infinitesimals: “I’m the smallest thing”
    Mandelbrot set: “hold my fractals!”

    • @lukedavis6711
      @lukedavis6711 3 года назад

      I dont get it

    • @davidgumazon
      @davidgumazon 3 года назад +3

      Weeb Fractals: Your fractals are so lewd...

    • @RoryStarr
      @RoryStarr 3 года назад +2

      @@lukedavis6711 they are infinitely repeating designs. So, the smallest piece is dependent purely on resolution. In other words, theoretically, the fractal is infinitely recursive in the same area and not even really distinct in the way infinitesimals are.
      I don't have a math degree though, so maybe someone else will be a bit more accurate.

    • @fabianp.2986
      @fabianp.2986 2 года назад

      The golden ratio: Amatuers

    • @Perririri
      @Perririri 2 года назад +2

      Normie

  • @mohamedazadabdulrahman3226
    @mohamedazadabdulrahman3226 Год назад +1

    Fun fact: there is a number system defined for handling these along with infinities, called *Hyperreals.* Because of these, I made a new number system called *Hypercomplex numbers* that handles these along with square roots of negatives

  • @dmsanct
    @dmsanct 4 года назад +7

    I yearn for the day I can say "Yo guys have you heard, infinitesimals made a comeback!" and have people look at me like I finally lost it

  • @arvee3451
    @arvee3451 8 лет назад +9

    "...it could be thrown out from theory"
    *lies back*
    "...they make a comeback"
    *goddammit*

  • @Tymon0000
    @Tymon0000 9 лет назад +202

    Who is the guy 4:21 with 39 on his back?

    • @ObeseYeti
      @ObeseYeti 9 лет назад +8

      +Tymon0000 I think it's Capper

    • @ikbeneenpop1
      @ikbeneenpop1 9 лет назад

      +ObeseYeti Kepler*

    • @ObeseYeti
      @ObeseYeti 9 лет назад +33

      ikbeneenpop1 The guy with the 39 on his back is Warwick Capper

    • @Tymon0000
      @Tymon0000 9 лет назад +10

      ObeseYeti
      Do you happen to know why he is there?

    • @ITR
      @ITR 9 лет назад +6

      +Tymon0000 Pun on the name, maybe?

  • @michaelobrien1106
    @michaelobrien1106 3 года назад +2

    I definitely prefer the rectangle over the triangle for the infinitesimal wedges more. Alternate the triangles up and down. Half of the triangles are facing up, the other down. We approach a width of radius and a length of half the circumference. So that area is pi*r*r which is the area without distorting the triangles!

  • @Alorand
    @Alorand 6 лет назад +185

    So how does this change that old problem of: "Is 1 equal to 0.9999-repeating?"
    If they are an infinitesimal apart then in the hyper-real system they are not equal?

    • @quanjano382
      @quanjano382 6 лет назад +107

      they aren’t an infinitesimal apart, they are the same number. it is just an artifact of a base 10 number system.

    • @ar_xiv
      @ar_xiv 6 лет назад +31

      .3 repeating is what? What about that number multiplied by 3?

    • @klikitzsmith8416
      @klikitzsmith8416 6 лет назад +5

      @@ar_xiv never thought of it like that

    • @vierajohaninecova3998
      @vierajohaninecova3998 6 лет назад +60

      Ok so we all agree that for every integer execpt zero n/n = 1. So 1/3 = 0.3 repeating. 2/3 = 0.6 repeating. So 3/3 has to be 0.9 repeating right. But every n/n = 1.... thus 3/3 = 1 = 0.9 repeating

    • @99Dragonborn
      @99Dragonborn 6 лет назад +20

      Yea, I don't like that saying. Topologically speaking, 0.9 repeating is in the open interval (0,1), while 1 is not.

  • @josephcole8102
    @josephcole8102 8 лет назад +95

    what if a rectangle had an infinite length but an infitesimal width?

    • @josephcole8102
      @josephcole8102 8 лет назад +21

      Joel Tailor if my understanding works. The area would be one. But I don't know if having infinites makes it work differently.

    • @randomwindowsstuffz
      @randomwindowsstuffz 8 лет назад +56

      You can't have a rectangle with infinitesimal width because it wouldn't be a rectangle anymore. However, you can take the limit of a rectangle as its length approaches infinity and its width approaches 0. Then, depending on how the limit is approached, the rectangle would have a finite area. The Dirac delta function is basically a limit of a rectangle approaching infinite length and infinitesimal width, and has an area of 1. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_delta_function

    • @josephcole8102
      @josephcole8102 8 лет назад +23

      randomwindowsstuffz I'm going to act like I understand the Wikipedia article and say thanks

    • @alantineo5655
      @alantineo5655 7 лет назад +1

      Pi

    • @howardbaxter2514
      @howardbaxter2514 7 лет назад +13

      Indeterminate form. Infinity times 1/infinity is equal to infinite/infinite (one of 6 indeterminate forms).

  • @DeFacto94
    @DeFacto94 4 года назад +4

    Actualy, this was a definition of integral of function y=f(x) and dx! Nicest way to explain "hard" part of math!

  • @thalesn
    @thalesn 2 года назад +2

    Watching this video made me go back... Back to my first semester in college, when they threw us into a Calculus class without any care. I didn't hate Calculus, but Calculus is full of concepts that aren't intuitive at all. This video does a great job at explaining why those concepts aren't intuitive.
    I failed that class and, in the very next semester, I took the class again and then I aced it. I didn't suddenly got smarter, I just understood those very basic (albeit not intuitive) concepts.

  • @LAOMUSICARTS
    @LAOMUSICARTS 4 года назад +10

    Here is my answer for the opposite on Infinity:
    it's any value that represents half the way to the next value!
    Let's say you want to cross a street and every step you take is half the way to the other sidewalk => you'll never arrive!
    So the opposite of Infinity is a Regressive Infinity !

    • @didibus
      @didibus 4 года назад +4

      Seems like you will actually arrive. Go watch their video about Zeno's paradox, I just watched it, and it talks about how the infinite sequence which gets halfed each time is well behaved and thus actually has a real sum.

    • @LAOMUSICARTS
      @LAOMUSICARTS 4 года назад +2

      @@didibus thanks for the tip: but notice that my assumption DOES NOT envolves the Time factor; which one can use to "solve" the paradox, but instead, my proposal in a clear and democratic concept:
      if Infinity exists, one should assume that a Negative Infinity is also possible.
      This is what I believe.

    • @samburnes9389
      @samburnes9389 4 года назад +2

      LAOMUSIC ARTS infinity (in most of mathematics) exists only as a limit of a function. As does negative infinity. The limit of tan(x) as x approaches pi/2 is infinity, and the limit of tan(x) as x approaches 3*pi/2 is negative infinity. What you described is a limit. So the limit of 2^-x as x goes to infinity gets smaller and smaller, halving and the limit is zero.

    • @LAOMUSICARTS
      @LAOMUSICARTS 4 года назад +1

      @@samburnes9389 In Mathematics, if one has a ratio (between the diagonal and the side of a square) that is irrational, it will be the limit of an endless, nonrepeating decimal series.
      Have checked also the Zermelo-Fraenkel set theory ?
      Recent work suggests that Cantor’s continuum hypothesis may be false and that the true size of c may be the larger infinity ℵ2.

  • @Akyla0177
    @Akyla0177 7 лет назад +8

    these videos are awesome. youtube can be used to educate.

  • @goldenking2046
    @goldenking2046 4 года назад +4

    Well to me it seems the counter-intuitive part of using infinitesimals to calculate area isn't exactly the "error" being ignored, but that two seemingly contradictory arguments are being made. First: all the tiny infinitesimal slices add up to some finite number(not zero), but also: all the tiny infinitesimal errors added up are somehow negligible(actually zero).

  • @SirMo
    @SirMo 2 года назад +1

    OMG I love this! So many concepts explained in such a short succinct and clear manner.

  • @SLTRR
    @SLTRR 9 лет назад +15

    Infinite opposite = finite

    • @thomask.2726
      @thomask.2726 9 лет назад

      +gunup2 But what is "finite"?

    • @nicholashurst620
      @nicholashurst620 9 лет назад +1

      +Thomas Korbacher Finite means it ends eventually

    • @SLTRR
      @SLTRR 9 лет назад +1

      Thomas Korbacher limited

    • @thomask.2726
      @thomask.2726 9 лет назад

      Ye i know, but you cant give "infinite" a symbol like inifinity has

    • @johnathan1784
      @johnathan1784 9 лет назад +1

      +Thomas Korbacher the question is, where and when would u ever need our use one? (If you can give me an example, a LEGIT & REALISTIC one tho) I'll give you a cookie!

  • @rjl9967
    @rjl9967 7 лет назад +33

    why does a picture of warwick capper flash up before kepler may I ask??

    • @alexandriap.3285
      @alexandriap.3285 6 лет назад +4

      So I'm not the only one who noticed.

    • @dewayner5388
      @dewayner5388 6 лет назад

      That's what that is? Idk

    • @adamjordan132
      @adamjordan132 5 лет назад +7

      I saw that too. Could be possibly a double entendre with Capper and Kepler-39, which is his jersey number and the name of a star named after Johannes Kepler. Granted there are many Kepler star numbers, but just maybe...

  • @matsv201
    @matsv201 9 лет назад +16

    "I have a circle"
    Sorry, i would call that a blob ;)
    "Now it turns into a triangle, you see that triangle"
    Sorry, i would call that a blob ;)

  • @comochinganconesto
    @comochinganconesto 3 года назад +1

    I used stuff like this in calculus and physics way too much, didn't even know that they were a legitimate math concept just that it kinda worked and made certain problems easier to understand.

  • @enshk79
    @enshk79 Год назад +3

    I love the fact the original mathemations decided to just ignore the curve parts

  • @canrex7540
    @canrex7540 4 года назад +20

    There are an infinite number of infinitesimals.
    1/E=∞
    1=∞E
    You would need an infinite number of infinitesimals to equal 1 (or any real number)
    Cool! I think I got it.

    • @howardbaxter2514
      @howardbaxter2514 4 года назад +3

      By the way, there are seven different types of indeterminate forms. They are listed below:
      1. 0/0
      2. Inf/Inf
      3. 0 * Inf
      4. Inf - Inf
      5. 0^0
      6. 1^Inf
      7. Inf^0
      Numberphile has a great video covering this topic.

    • @howardbaxter2514
      @howardbaxter2514 4 года назад +2

      They also have a video covering different types of infinities. Another video well worth watching.

  • @kingshuk1990
    @kingshuk1990 7 лет назад +5

    i am a musician.. i love physics but i hate math.... i cry after seeing this why Area of a Circle is ( Pi x R squre )

  • @siamvat
    @siamvat 2 года назад +1

    Infinitesimals, yeah!
    I love them, they are just like single points on a line, comparing them to whole numbers is just like comparing whole numbers to infinity, or omegas. Infinitesimals are the opposite of counting Alephs and The Inaccesible cardinals.
    We are reaching out to discover how big can mathematic really be. It's huge.