As a Serial Monogamist who opened herself to Poly and discovered Monogamy is likely best for her, 100% agree that the experience of Poly made me a better person. It's such a different experience that makes you face demons that normally are overlooked, normalized, or even seen as a "good thing" when really it was detrimental and toxic to my well-being. Poly not only made me a better person, but it ironically made me better at Monogamy and being a partner.
@@polyamfam Same here - still not sure if mono or poly is best for me, but my foray into poly made me look REALLY hard at myself: who am I, what do I value, what do I need, what am I insecure about, am I codependent (the answer for that one was yes lol), and more. I've started questioning more and more relationship norms and identifying ones that don't fit with me.
Only 30 years?! I started in the '80's, before the Internet, when poly folks hung out on BBS's, Usenet and late nights at sci fi conventions. There is so much terminology now, it's hard for the oldtimers to keep up with. I agree with everything Kyros said. Echoes of my own history in his story. I enjoyed this very much.
Ya it's beautiful people Create new words to better convey our thoughts more precisely, however if we want to stay Educated we must continue to learn like how our elders often were behind us when we were young it's a beautiful thing The Torch of Knowledge being passed by & propelled by the next generation
I'm not poly but have been with my partner for over 13 years now but we aren't married and that makes some people think as well that it won't work out, isn't that serious or just isn't a real relationship. So I felt the beginning where he spoke about how people STILL tell them all that their relationship won't work out even though it has lasted just fine for that long. Longer than many other peoples relationships which I also agree with because I've seen many of them fail around us while we just kept vibing all these years. Open communication about all aspects of our lives is truly why this has worked out so well. Something many people struggle with very much in their relationships from my experience.
Get better friends who support you instead of them programming you with their own fear and negativity. 13 years? Kudos dude. It sounds like you are doing just fine. If it works for you, don't fix it.
I so appreciated this interview and hearing Kyros talk about his relationships! Wish I had time to go on about it but I’ll say at least that I feel seen and reassured as a late-20’s non-monogamous gay man. My interest has been there for years but it has only recently become possible to start exploring this. Thanks for this vid and I’ll definitely be sharing with my friends and family.
I mentioned to a casual friend once that I was poly and he said "See, real life isn't like what you see in anime. Harems aren't actually something that work."
Thanks for the video and I am sending huge thanks to Kyros. Thanks for accepting a trans* sibling as your kid. 💜💜💜 this nearly brought me tears. We need more people like you ! Also, a big thanks for this important testimony. 😊
@@polyamfam Exactly. That's the fun factor. I run the local Qigong, Tai Chi, Tai Chi Chih meet up group and always start off our classes with a joke, since it gets the group laughing and smiling (just that alone sends a shot of serotonin and dopamine, relaxing them breaking them their thoughts.) They all leave chuckling and smiling, and sends me into weekend mode from work day mode, starting with a good nights sleep. In that Jungian group study we moved as an organism, playing always laughing and smiling, eg go bar hopping and just drinking coffee; playing charades, always good for a laugh. Whatever we did, we did as a group, always fun. And it was really attractive. We couldn't wait to be together.
8:04 now I need to go process how much of my stuff is actually FOMO lol I knew it wasn't jealousy. I referred to it as envy. But FOMO is up in there too
Absolutely agree with you there. When my partner is out dating and doing the thing, I'm sitting there spiralling in intense FOMO before I get my shit back together and remember compersion. I get jealous when emotions are shared though. That's when I have *serious* work to do.
@@shevaunhandley1543 "get my shit back together" took me out 🤣🤣🤣 It be real lol I don't even experience compersion like that so I just take time and space for me to process my feels
Since I was 3 I always would talk about my family with playing with my toys or dolls telling my mom about my multiples of husband and how their was one lady who is a mommy to one of my husband’s my mom didn’t understand where I ever even got the idea this was in the early 90’s and she would try to tell over the years when I would say the same thing as I age and I remembered around 7 believing firmly that is how life is only when I got older did I try to turn that thought inward but over times I felt like something wasn’t rite inside me. I would be in serious monogamous relationship but always have these crazy emotions and connections with other people and feel horrible and close myself from everyone. Only untill the later 30’s have I come to terms that this is never going to change and I need to just embrace this as me even if I don’t get into a poly physical relationship I’m coming to terms that I really am happier acknowledging something iv known I am and not feel broken.
This is my favourite video of yours so far. And I say that even though you put the bar pretty high, but hearing people with a lot of life experiences I haven't (about polyamory but not only) is really interesting. I'd be very interested into more of this format!
I've been with one of my partners for 11 yrs (legally married for 10 yrs) and the other for 10 years (ceremonially maried for 5 yrs). The primary relationship is a V but we do have a larger polyclue through one of my partners. My life is so normal/stable i dont feel polyamorus, I feel like I'm monogamous with two people.
The algorithm knows! Married to my husband for 11 years and currently going through a separation. We've had an open relationship for 2 1/2 now. We're not on bad terms, but our paths have diverged and I suspect they may not merge again. Being open, I've realized that there may not be just 'one' person out there for me. I have a lot of love to give and the idea of poly has certainly entered my mind palace as of late. This conversation between you two was so good and insightful. While the idea of ANY kind of relationship is the very last thing on my mind, exploring new ways of thinking aren't. Thank you for this channel! Now to go watch more!
I've been poly now for five years, one committed relationship for four years, and a second relationship for two years now. Just waiting for someone near me to assume its been only a month or so lol.
I think this is the video that is going to help me the most. Me and my husband have started looking for a third and he went on a date with the one we have in mind and it scared me so bad. But talking about it and getting reassurance helped so much.
11/10 Love this format. Actually hearing people talk about their experiences and how they've navigated through things as the world has ebbed and flowed with polyam, it's an absolute treasure. Thanks Chad!
Ohh this interview was so great! I loved it! And all the polyamorous life experiences we can get access on, the better right? I love to hear stories, specially the ones that worked out
Love the interview format. And the short clips from it. Definitely looking forward to more. Also like the skits and short vids. You're doing a great job
i loved these conversational videos between you and another poly person. Super helpful to get more perspectives, especially from seasoned polyamorists. I've been poly for about two years but have already been through a lot of wacky situations and seeing that that's a common occurrence for people is super validating
'The Overarching Culture We live in is the air we breath, we don't see it's just there existing, when we step outside that air We look at the World Differently, & the World looks at us Differently' - Understanding Homosexuality by (*)
This is one of the most important RUclips videos I’ve ever watched. Me and my partner, after 15y of monogamous relationship, have started to experiment with polyamory and in this first months is really easy to feel judged and misunderstood by everyone else. It feels as if I am no longer understood by my friends. Most of what you read and hear are a combo of “myths and prejudices”. So contents such as yours really fells like a hug for me in this moment. Thanks for sharing !
Hope you're still going strong. I found that finding a supportive community is so important. If that's important to you too, hope you have done the same :)
Talk about small world...Click on an interesting looking video and the person being interviewed is the priest that was half of the team that married me to my first wife in the mid-90's.
I am really happy you all are so happy. I had my friend buy me a copy of the ethical slut. She had previous experience doesn't practice it now. I read it spent about 5 audible credits on other audible books related to polyamory. I am doing my best to appreciate all this. I have had an interesting online connection with another man and woman who are established in a poly but secure relationship. I have been told that I am appreciated loved and they want me to meet them perhaps move in.....I am not bi although a bisexuality test I took I scored 105 (100-130) suggests bi curious. I have no idea what to think or feel. I am not as jealous which is surprising but unique. I know they plan to marry. I am not really sure about the thing. Everyone just says go with the flow just do it enjoy it. We'll I can't enjoy it if I know I would be known as what I believe to be secondary. I have been frustrated by alot of guys who treat me like just another girl rather than someone important enough to be special enough to be someone's only girl. I have frustrated to break myself out of this difficult life long paradigm. I dont even know how to even look at it. I am trying my best but yet it feels like it's such an uphill battle yet I was urged in a past relationship. So I am either corrupt and maybe confused because I have no friggin idea if my thoughts are my thoughts. I really want to get married and if I choose to embrace this dynamic I never will get that and to be honest I don't know if I can do that. But they love me I get along with the girl. She's a metamour I don't know if I am bi awkward exploring that have no idea what will happen if we ever meet. I am just in a difficult place and wish the difficulty I am having would stop.... A friend online shared this with me which constantly compells me to really consider it. I am truly lost but I don't know how to accept to be just a secondary. I am not sure how this dynamic will unfold not sure if my feelings can endure the hardship trying to get comfortable....
Small tip for future videos/interviews.. don't have the mic on/close to the table because the incessant poking/tapping was a decided distraction. It muffled a lot of the conversation.
This guy had a beautiful quadruple (is this how it's called?) but they broke up because the mindset of some fkng lost loser managed to sneak into the emotional system of one of them to terrorise him, that's a damn sad story. Those creeps with broken mindsets giving people shit when people are actually living by love are such losers, it's very sad that most people aren't aware of how to defend their own peace from such brokenness and instead get broken too.
Hi Guys, love your site Chad. Thoroughly loved your story Kyros. I'm a Polyamorous Christian activist. Both my polyamorist wife and I were historical trackers of cultures with no internal history of their own, but only observed by peoples they came into contact with and used both Gibbons, heraldry, and array of sciences, to get insights by living it inside our home. Did many studies like this together, but the best of all is an ongoing study from a prophetic future state, a state founded by Yeshua/Jesus (who is both polyfidelic and polyamorist) to found the Worlds First Polyamorist State (...yeah, I know...surprise). Where NO ONE IS LOST, and I do mean NO ONE. I've got no problems with other Christian cowgirls and cowboys dragging off polys from their sinned filled ways; a half hour with me and they're left stunned and speechless, backing up making signs of the cross as they make for the exit signs, using the Bible alone to do it. My focus is communal structures of less than 32 people because more than that you lose the intimacy (source-Kerista). Unfortunately, monogs saying they don't see poly structures lasting is a real phenomenon, but isn't just isolated to polys, when one has just a 50/50 chance in a monog marriage ending in divorce as well, they can't say it's just a poly thing. I've been working to introduce a 12 step/ Jungian communal model to the polyamorist world to help solve this very problem of longevity. I was involved in an experimental Jungian grouping of members of various 12 step groups with roughly 20 core members, and it was one of the most wonderful fulfilling experiences of my life. I did a comparison study of two Gestaltian centric communes, Oneida (religious) and Kerista (secular), both failed communes and why they failed; then compared it to my experimental 20 group egalitarian Jungian model that was really organic and serendipitous and individually focused, with intimacy levels off the charts that a monog marriage nor singular 12 step group alone can't come close to, and so damn attractive that no one of that core 20 wanted out, we all wanted in. Listening to Kyros and his success story and that of my Jungian group study had a lot in common, flexibility not rigidity; the fun factor; 3 part harmonies in the group, and then again acapella in the car within my clique; communication, everyone had a voice, or could pass and listen with the 12 step format; hugs were frequent , (so never underestimate the power of a hug. It can save a life. It saved mine.) Nothing was forced or controlling; the 12 step factor cancelled out any religious, or any other differences, but all 20 of us were lock step spiritually; we were all focused on improving ourselves not anyone else ;all fear evaporated into the deepest trust imaginable, we all loved and trusted each and every person of that group. It was liberating, freeing. It was like giving water to dying plants, and watching the plants come back to life, and watching each of them grow individually, and blossom. Everyone experienced the freudenfreude of that daily. We all literally loved each other back to life. Jealousy, pah! What's that? We were the family we always wanted. That's just a taste. Boundaries, TRUST(big factor).
Ok you interviewed a rare one but these are 3 men. Will you be interviewing 2 women & 1 man, 2 men & 1 woman poly relationships that last longer than 8 years anytime soon?
@@darlagoddesshate No it doesn't. Maybe you have a hard time comprehending what I'm asking. Chad had to search deep to find a rare poly relationship that lasted longer than 10 years. If poly relationships are so successful, how come he didn't find any more?
As a Serial Monogamist who opened herself to Poly and discovered Monogamy is likely best for her, 100% agree that the experience of Poly made me a better person. It's such a different experience that makes you face demons that normally are overlooked, normalized, or even seen as a "good thing" when really it was detrimental and toxic to my well-being.
Poly not only made me a better person, but it ironically made me better at Monogamy and being a partner.
That is a fantastic way to put it. I'm glad you had a good experience full of growth!
@@polyamfam Same here - still not sure if mono or poly is best for me, but my foray into poly made me look REALLY hard at myself: who am I, what do I value, what do I need, what am I insecure about, am I codependent (the answer for that one was yes lol), and more. I've started questioning more and more relationship norms and identifying ones that don't fit with me.
I also made the decision to step back from any sort of non-monogamy while my partner and I figure some stuff out.
I've questioned serial mono and concluded that for me that it would not make sense. But thank you for sharing that.
I've been polyamorous for 29 years, with one partner for 29 years and my other partner for 18 years, We are a V with me in the middle.
Only 30 years?! I started in the '80's, before the Internet, when poly folks hung out on BBS's, Usenet and late nights at sci fi conventions. There is so much terminology now, it's hard for the oldtimers to keep up with. I agree with everything Kyros said. Echoes of my own history in his story. I enjoyed this very much.
Ya it's beautiful people Create new words to better convey our thoughts more precisely, however if we want to stay Educated we must continue to learn like how our elders often were behind us when we were young it's a beautiful thing The Torch of Knowledge being passed by & propelled by the next generation
I'm not poly but have been with my partner for over 13 years now but we aren't married and that makes some people think as well that it won't work out, isn't that serious or just isn't a real relationship. So I felt the beginning where he spoke about how people STILL tell them all that their relationship won't work out even though it has lasted just fine for that long. Longer than many other peoples relationships which I also agree with because I've seen many of them fail around us while we just kept vibing all these years.
Open communication about all aspects of our lives is truly why this has worked out so well. Something many people struggle with very much in their relationships from my experience.
Get better friends who support you instead of them programming you with their own fear and negativity. 13 years? Kudos dude. It sounds like you are doing just fine. If it works for you, don't fix it.
I so appreciated this interview and hearing Kyros talk about his relationships! Wish I had time to go on about it but I’ll say at least that I feel seen and reassured as a late-20’s non-monogamous gay man. My interest has been there for years but it has only recently become possible to start exploring this. Thanks for this vid and I’ll definitely be sharing with my friends and family.
I'm so glad it helped you out!
I mentioned to a casual friend once that I was poly and he said "See, real life isn't like what you see in anime. Harems aren't actually something that work."
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ "See, polyamory isn't what you hear from other monogamists. It isn't actually harems."
I need more of these like women need more rights in America 🎉❤
Rights are important for peoples
Thanks for the video and I am sending huge thanks to Kyros. Thanks for accepting a trans* sibling as your kid. 💜💜💜 this nearly brought me tears. We need more people like you ! Also, a big thanks for this important testimony. 😊
I absolutely love that part of his story too. It's a reminder that there are wonderful people out there.
Great conversation! When y'all were wrapping up I was like "what? It's been 30 minutes already?!" Thanks for sharing :)
Thanks! I did my best to edit so it wouldn't feel like it was lingering on.
Bring the content where you feel you wanna go Chad! Thank you for trying this new format, this interview is gold.
I'm trying to follow the dopamine on both of my accounts. Just a few too many options. 😅
@@polyamfam "Nes". Flirting with new projects without the time and energy to do it... ruclips.net/user/shortsoVO9aoWhqpI
@@polyamfam Exactly. That's the fun factor. I run the local Qigong, Tai Chi, Tai Chi Chih meet up group and always start off our classes with a joke, since it gets the group laughing and smiling (just that alone sends a shot of serotonin and dopamine, relaxing them breaking them their thoughts.) They all leave chuckling and smiling, and sends me into weekend mode from work day mode, starting with a good nights sleep. In that Jungian group study we moved as an organism, playing always laughing and smiling, eg go bar hopping and just drinking coffee; playing charades, always good for a laugh. Whatever we did, we did as a group, always fun. And it was really attractive. We couldn't wait to be together.
Agreed
8:04 now I need to go process how much of my stuff is actually FOMO lol
I knew it wasn't jealousy. I referred to it as envy. But FOMO is up in there too
Same here, I think i have fomo vs jealousy!
Absolutely agree with you there. When my partner is out dating and doing the thing, I'm sitting there spiralling in intense FOMO before I get my shit back together and remember compersion. I get jealous when emotions are shared though. That's when I have *serious* work to do.
@@shevaunhandley1543 "get my shit back together" took me out 🤣🤣🤣
It be real lol
I don't even experience compersion like that so I just take time and space for me to process my feels
Since I was 3 I always would talk about my family with playing with my toys or dolls telling my mom about my multiples of husband and how their was one lady who is a mommy to one of my husband’s my mom didn’t understand where I ever even got the idea this was in the early 90’s and she would try to tell over the years when I would say the same thing as I age and I remembered around 7 believing firmly that is how life is only when I got older did I try to turn that thought inward but over times I felt like something wasn’t rite inside me. I would be in serious monogamous relationship but always have these crazy emotions and connections with other people and feel horrible and close myself from everyone. Only untill the later 30’s have I come to terms that this is never going to change and I need to just embrace this as me even if I don’t get into a poly physical relationship I’m coming to terms that I really am happier acknowledging something iv known I am and not feel broken.
Also, 100% you have the presence and personality for more podcasty/dialogue type formats. More please.
I so appreciate this video. Being "newly" poly has been challenging, and listening to tou talk so openly about it has brought new understanding.
Doing what I can to bridge that gap! Glad it helped.
This is my favourite video of yours so far. And I say that even though you put the bar pretty high, but hearing people with a lot of life experiences I haven't (about polyamory but not only) is really interesting. I'd be very interested into more of this format!
Awesome. Thanks for the feedback. I've got at least one more of this format to come. Hopefully more!
I've been with one of my partners for 11 yrs (legally married for 10 yrs) and the other for 10 years (ceremonially maried for 5 yrs). The primary relationship is a V but we do have a larger polyclue through one of my partners. My life is so normal/stable i dont feel polyamorus, I feel like I'm monogamous with two people.
This interview is wonderful, it's great to hear from someone who has been poly for so long!
Thirty years poly, not always the same partners, but one is thirty years. I found poly at a Science Fiction Con too😂😂😂😂😂
I love this! My partner isn't as sure about polyam as I am. This is a great interview for him to watch.
I hope it helps y'all out!
The algorithm knows! Married to my husband for 11 years and currently going through a separation. We've had an open relationship for 2 1/2 now. We're not on bad terms, but our paths have diverged and I suspect they may not merge again. Being open, I've realized that there may not be just 'one' person out there for me. I have a lot of love to give and the idea of poly has certainly entered my mind palace as of late. This conversation between you two was so good and insightful. While the idea of ANY kind of relationship is the very last thing on my mind, exploring new ways of thinking aren't. Thank you for this channel! Now to go watch more!
The intro to the sponsor break made me laugh out loud. Thank you. 😂
I loved "I want to be happy today." Yes!
"My guys are great" Yes sir, your guyes ARE great! Thank you for sharing the stories from your life.
SO WHOLESOME! And laughed so hard at the sudden stonsorship note! 😂😂😂 Youre hillarious!
Lovely interview. As a person in a triad for 27 years, this was very nice.
❤ "I just want to be happy" love it!
What a great storyteller!
I've been poly now for five years, one committed relationship for four years, and a second relationship for two years now. Just waiting for someone near me to assume its been only a month or so lol.
I think this is the video that is going to help me the most. Me and my husband have started looking for a third and he went on a date with the one we have in mind and it scared me so bad. But talking about it and getting reassurance helped so much.
11/10 Love this format. Actually hearing people talk about their experiences and how they've navigated through things as the world has ebbed and flowed with polyam, it's an absolute treasure. Thanks Chad!
Congrats on getting a sponsor 😂
Thanks! He's kind of a douche though.
@@polyamfam I think he's pretty cute tbh
I really love this video! It's so great to hear more about what polyamory is for other people 🥰
Yay, love some gay Poly representation!
Ohh this interview was so great! I loved it! And all the polyamorous life experiences we can get access on, the better right? I love to hear stories, specially the ones that worked out
Woot! I've met quite a few long term poly people / couples.
This was an excellent interview, thank you for your clarity and sharing your experience!
I really enjoy these interviews and your content in general, please make more.
I would totally listen to your podcast if you had one 😍
The idea has been tossed around. Who knows what the future holds!
Love the interview format. And the short clips from it. Definitely looking forward to more. Also like the skits and short vids. You're doing a great job
This was really great. I hope you explore more long form content in the future!
Just found your channel and I love it!! Thank you for making all this great content.
Welcome to the fam!
Amazing video thank you!
This was so interesting, Chad! Great interview!
Thanks!
Thank you! This was really great and really helpful
Amazing. It's so nice to hear this sort of experience from people. Really enjoyable to watch, thank you!!
I liked you chatting with him, I would like to hear more chats with positive poly people 😊
That was an amazing clear and helpful discussion. Thanks. 😊
i loved these conversational videos between you and another poly person. Super helpful to get more perspectives, especially from seasoned polyamorists. I've been poly for about two years but have already been through a lot of wacky situations and seeing that that's a common occurrence for people is super validating
Really like your videos! Please never stop!
'The Overarching Culture We live in is the air we breath, we don't see it's just there existing, when we step outside that air We look at the World Differently, & the World looks at us Differently' - Understanding Homosexuality by (*)
Thank you
This was very enlightening. Thank you for making this video.
Thank you so much. It was very helpful and you have given a lot of hope for the future
Thank you for all these helpful videos you've made! I really hope you'll be making more in the future if you feel up to it!
This was so interesting! We need to spread more stories like this
This was fun! I always enjoy your content! I’ll have to get used to switching to RUclips tho ^^
this was an excellent video, enjoyed it very much!!
Thank you so much for this!!
Love this. Please me longer videos!!
I tried it. Its just not for me. I guess everyone is different. If it work for you who i am to judge you. Bless you with your own life decisions.
This is one of the most important RUclips videos I’ve ever watched. Me and my partner, after 15y of monogamous relationship, have started to experiment with polyamory and in this first months is really easy to feel judged and misunderstood by everyone else.
It feels as if I am no longer understood by my friends.
Most of what you read and hear are a combo of “myths and prejudices”.
So contents such as yours really fells like a hug for me in this moment. Thanks for sharing !
Hope you're still going strong. I found that finding a supportive community is so important. If that's important to you too, hope you have done the same :)
@@luizfernandoteixeiradasilv3045 oh I feel sorry for you, wtf is wrong with people nowadays...
I have been lole everything. New to Solo Poly and I've relied heavily on your knowledge snd humor
Talk about small world...Click on an interesting looking video and the person being interviewed is the priest that was half of the team that married me to my first wife in the mid-90's.
Love your snake shirt btw
Thanks! That one's my design too, though it's not on the polyamfam shop because it's not exactly relevant to polyamory.
I really liked this too!!
More of these please
More please 😁
so beautiful video
Thank you!
How does one get over the FOMO in a triad.
Also is a triad “technically” 3 separate relationships?
I am really happy you all are so happy. I had my friend buy me a copy of the ethical slut. She had previous experience doesn't practice it now. I read it spent about 5 audible credits on other audible books related to polyamory. I am doing my best to appreciate all this. I have had an interesting online connection with another man and woman who are established in a poly but secure relationship. I have been told that I am appreciated loved and they want me to meet them perhaps move in.....I am not bi although a bisexuality test I took I scored 105 (100-130) suggests bi curious. I have no idea what to think or feel. I am not as jealous which is surprising but unique. I know they plan to marry. I am not really sure about the thing. Everyone just says go with the flow just do it enjoy it. We'll I can't enjoy it if I know I would be known as what I believe to be secondary. I have been frustrated by alot of guys who treat me like just another girl rather than someone important enough to be special enough to be someone's only girl. I have frustrated to break myself out of this difficult life long paradigm. I dont even know how to even look at it. I am trying my best but yet it feels like it's such an uphill battle yet I was urged in a past relationship. So I am either corrupt and maybe confused because I have no friggin idea if my thoughts are my thoughts. I really want to get married and if I choose to embrace this dynamic I never will get that and to be honest I don't know if I can do that. But they love me I get along with the girl. She's a metamour I don't know if I am bi awkward exploring that have no idea what will happen if we ever meet. I am just in a difficult place and wish the difficulty I am having would stop....
A friend online shared this with me which constantly compells me to really consider it. I am truly lost but I don't know how to accept to be just a secondary. I am not sure how this dynamic will unfold not sure if my feelings can endure the hardship trying to get comfortable....
very fun video
Small tip for future videos/interviews.. don't have the mic on/close to the table because the incessant poking/tapping was a decided distraction. It muffled a lot of the conversation.
This guy had a beautiful quadruple (is this how it's called?) but they broke up because the mindset of some fkng lost loser managed to sneak into the emotional system of one of them to terrorise him, that's a damn sad story.
Those creeps with broken mindsets giving people shit when people are actually living by love are such losers, it's very sad that most people aren't aware of how to defend their own peace from such brokenness and instead get broken too.
Hi Guys, love your site Chad. Thoroughly loved your story Kyros. I'm a Polyamorous Christian activist. Both my polyamorist wife and I were historical trackers of cultures with no internal history of their own, but only observed by peoples they came into contact with and used both Gibbons, heraldry, and array of sciences, to get insights by living it inside our home. Did many studies like this together, but the best of all is an ongoing study from a prophetic future state, a state founded by Yeshua/Jesus (who is both polyfidelic and polyamorist) to found the Worlds First Polyamorist State (...yeah, I know...surprise). Where NO ONE IS LOST, and I do mean NO ONE. I've got no problems with other Christian cowgirls and cowboys dragging off polys from their sinned filled ways; a half hour with me and they're left stunned and speechless, backing up making signs of the cross as they make for the exit signs, using the Bible alone to do it. My focus is communal structures of less than 32 people because more than that you lose the intimacy (source-Kerista). Unfortunately, monogs saying they don't see poly structures lasting is a real phenomenon, but isn't just isolated to polys, when one has just a 50/50 chance in a monog marriage ending in divorce as well, they can't say it's just a poly thing. I've been working to introduce a 12 step/ Jungian communal model to the polyamorist world to help solve this very problem of longevity. I was involved in an experimental Jungian grouping of members of various 12 step groups with roughly 20 core members, and it was one of the most wonderful fulfilling experiences of my life. I did a comparison study of two Gestaltian centric communes, Oneida (religious) and Kerista (secular), both failed communes and why they failed; then compared it to my experimental 20 group egalitarian Jungian model that was really organic and serendipitous and individually focused, with intimacy levels off the charts that a monog marriage nor singular 12 step group alone can't come close to, and so damn attractive that no one of that core 20 wanted out, we all wanted in. Listening to Kyros and his success story and that of my Jungian group study had a lot in common, flexibility not rigidity; the fun factor; 3 part harmonies in the group, and then again acapella in the car within my clique; communication, everyone had a voice, or could pass and listen with the 12 step format; hugs were frequent , (so never underestimate the power of a hug. It can save a life. It saved mine.) Nothing was forced or controlling; the 12 step factor cancelled out any religious, or any other differences, but all 20 of us were lock step spiritually; we were all focused on improving ourselves not anyone else ;all fear evaporated into the deepest trust imaginable, we all loved and trusted each and every person of that group. It was liberating, freeing. It was like giving water to dying plants, and watching the plants come back to life, and watching each of them grow individually, and blossom. Everyone experienced the freudenfreude of that daily. We all literally loved each other back to life. Jealousy, pah! What's that? We were the family we always wanted. That's just a taste. Boundaries, TRUST(big factor).
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Ok you interviewed a rare one but these are 3 men. Will you be interviewing 2 women & 1 man, 2 men & 1 woman poly relationships that last longer than 8 years anytime soon?
Lmao y'all will never be satisfied
@@Trashley652 Well your username is spot on lol
Worry about ur failed relationships as opposed to the consensual relationship dynamics of other people
Do you think what you said fits the definition of a moving goal post?
@@darlagoddesshate No it doesn't. Maybe you have a hard time comprehending what I'm asking. Chad had to search deep to find a rare poly relationship that lasted longer than 10 years. If poly relationships are so successful, how come he didn't find any more?
Is Kyros on insta? If so, what’s their handle? I saw they’re on tik tok but I don’t have tik tok😆