I think she is a conduit for a layman to appreciate the beauty of music, I am not surprised that she has a large following. I agree with her that one should bring the confluence of Carnatic and cinematic rendation to appreciate the efforts put in by great people to bring the wonderful essence that music to the world. Hamsanadam is so well presented.
What a versatile singer. Many may sing like her but only few has such vast theoretical knowledge and capacity for deep explanation and such rear capcity to explain with so many keertanas from somany vagayakaras. Let God Saraswathi give long life to continue with carnatic music. DS Nagaraja
Dr.Charulatha is Very Tharough in her subject & Analises Hamsanadam so well. I call such Ragas as 'OPEN ENDED' in my terminology, meaning they give Lots of Room for the Musician to Vary the Beatification & bring Versions / Variety of End products Songs, that R each a class by itself. Hats Off to PhDCharulata.
Simply divine transfer of the beautiful RAAG, Dr Charulata ji, . Salutations to you. You have explicated the subtle deviance in Hindustani counterpart of this raag. Superb clarity in differentiating that daivatam.
It was really my thoughts of the songs of Karnan film (iravum nilavum) and' thendran vanthu' that smt mani stated and it really was a satsangh with the raag hamsanadam. thanks
Namaskarams, madam. Thank you very much for the Isai Payanam series, madam! Thank you very much for the Swaras for 'sorgame enRAlum' 'iniththiduma' : rmpn pmpn pm rmpnS , such a complex set i have not been able to decipher, your teachings are very very helpful! thank you very much, madam!
இசையையும் அதன் பரிமாணத்தையும் அக்கு வேறு ஆணி வேறாக அலசுகிறார். அசாத்திய ஞானம். வேறு சிலரும் உள்ளார்கள் இன்று, குறை குடங்கள் போல !!!! வேறு இசைக் கலைஞர்களைப் பற்றி விமரிசிக்கும்போது - என்ன ஒரு பவ்யம், என்ன ஒரு அடக்கம், எப்படிப் புகழ்கிறார். இது ஒரு மிக மிக நல்ல குணம். திரை இசை - கர்நாடக இசை - அலசல்கள் அற்புதம் !!!!!
@vallyammal'Ah Aja Aja Kuch keheja kuch keheja' from "Raja jani" is based on Shuddh Sarang which is close to Hamsanadam, differing only in the dhaivatha note
2 things: 1. Thendral Vandhu ennai thodum song is from the movie 'Thendral ennai thodu'. Maybe, you got it confused with "Thendral vandhu theendum bodhu" from Avatharam 2. Sorgame Endraalum is NOT based on Hamsanadam (Embar Kannan & Arun Prakash discuss this with Ilayaraja himself)
Thank you. Really helpful in learning. Are you documenting these basic features of a ragam in any of your dissertations or publications. Or are there any other books that detail these.
very very enchanting,enticing.I have a small request madam.I used to play bulbul tarang,now casio.There is one particular song in which there is descending alapana whose swarams I am unable to get.Is it possible for u to help me?
Apologize Mam..Please check the video attached where Ilayaraja sir clarifies that "Sorgame Endralum" isn't actually Hamsanatham..(2:18 - 3:00) Maestro's Q&A March 2013 Part 1B
+yodump Hello, listen to her show completely. In olden days and in film music, dhaivatham (dha) is used in Hamsanadham. Sorgame endraalum IS hamsanaadham based. Period.
Senor Sandy, ingayum vandhuttiyaa? Anyway, Sorgame endralum is NOT based on Hamsanadam. Embar Kannan & Arun Prakash discussed this with Ilayaraja himself.
I listened this video many number of times may be because I am addicted to this particular raga. One doubt Smt. Mani may kind enough to answer. There is one song in a Hindi movie 'Rajajani' (Dharmendra and Hema Malini starrer) in which a song 'Ah Aja Aja Kuch keheja kuch keheja' rendered by lataji! I want to know this particular number is based on Hamsanadam. In that case what is the name that is given to this raga in Hindusthani Music ?
In geetanjali (Telugu), "Om namaha adhara srutulaku" is hamsanadam only. Also "Kandukondain Kandukondain" song (partially) from the tamil film also I believe, please clariiy. "Yamuna Teeram Sandhya raagam" from Telugu movie Anand also is in this raagam only, I think.
இரவும் நிலவும் என்னும் இந்தப் பாடல் சுத்த சாரங்கா ராகம் என்று Dr. ஸ்ரீ நாராயணன் சொல்கிறார். ஸ்ரீமதி சாருலதா மணி ஹம்ச நாதம் ராகம் என்று சொல்கிறார். எது சரி?தயவு செய்து சங்கீதம் தெரிந்தவர்கள் சொல்லுங்களேன்.
Yes, in Isai Payanam, one groups Suddh Sarang, and also Sarangatarangini with Hamsanadam, as it is only Hamsanadam that is very familiar to Carnatic listeners - the other two allied ragas are not well known. Mention is made of the Dhaivatha note that is the variation. For more detail see: charulathamani.blogspot.com/2013/02/call-of-swan-raga-hamsanadam.html
They are allied ragas. In film music the composers gave priority to bhava and not raga grammar. The dhaivata presence and madhyama variations determine these small differences. In Isai Payanam I discuss under the umbrella of a raga. In this case Hamsanadam is the broad umbrella. Thanks for your questions.
Endru orunall pothuma" Karakara Priya 23thai melam karnatic dharbhar ragam based song from the voice of karnatic music lord Balamuralikrishna really super not only his voice but also Actor S.V.sbbiha high lighted performance no words to express his highly talents not acted in that filim really he was lived in that movie .ok
Very pleasant Raga Hamsanatham.Thanks so much for your detailed elaboration.Please clarify my doubt whether the coming song 'Tendral vandhu ennai todum' is Hamsanatham or Sudha Sarangatharangini.I asked Thiru Sikkil Gurucharan whether it is set in 'Pavani ' or Sudha Sarangatharangini.He replied that it is Sudha Sarangatharangini.
Yes, IR has used Sarangatharangini. In Isai Payanam I group Sarangatharangini, Shuddh Sarang, Hamsanadam as the idea is to relate to familiar ragas in Carnatic music, in this case Hamsanadam. Also, in film music, the song will often move back and forth between allied ragas or add the occasional foreign note. See: charulathamani.blogspot.com/2013/02/call-of-swan-raga-hamsanadam.html
இரவும் பாடல் ,பஜன் எல்லாவற்றிலும் சதுஸ்ருதி தைவதம் பாடுகிறீர்கள்.(ஸநி3த2பம2 என்று)ஹம்ஸநாத்த்தில் ஷட்ஸ்ருதி தைவதம்தானே. இந்தப்பாடல்கள் எப்படி ஹம்ஸநாதமாகும்.
i have a doubt? if we use "dhaivatham in hamsanadam then what is the difference between hamsanadam and sarangatharangini? (samana rahithe amba)... if someone know this pls clarify it for me pls??
Saranga Tharangini has Chathushruti Dhaivatam(D2) while the Dhaivatam that's supposed to have been used before in Hamsanadam is the Shatshruti Dhaivatam (D3).
The song malargale is composed in three ragas mostly hamir kalyani and hamsanadam and the starting portion of malargale that violin ....is set in raaga saraswathi
just love this program ... but thendral vanthu ennai thodum song is from thendralae ennai thodu and not avatharam. may be it was mistook for thendral vanthu theendum pothu song due to similar words ... trivial point though..just sayin.
Apart from the scale sa ri ma pa ni sa - sa ni pa ma ri sa, I have come across another scale which is sa ri ma pa ni sa - sa ni dha ni pa ma ri sa. The dhaivatham does add beauty to this immensely melodious and pleasurable raagam.
More on Raga Hamsanadam - charulathamani.blogspot.com/2013/02/call-of-swan-raga-hamsanadam.html
சங்கீத சரஸ்வதி தாயே நீங்கள் நீடோடி வாழ்க
I think she is a conduit for a layman to appreciate the beauty of music, I am not surprised that she has a large following. I agree with her that one should bring the confluence of Carnatic and cinematic rendation to appreciate the efforts put in by great people to bring the wonderful essence that music to the world. Hamsanadam is so well presented.
Thendral vanthe enaitodum a sattam, this song also.
Please listen.. vaathilpazhuthilooden munnil.. song. music by legend dakshinamoorthy swamikal
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What a versatile singer. Many may sing like her but only few has such vast theoretical knowledge and capacity for deep explanation and such rear capcity to explain with so many keertanas from somany vagayakaras. Let God Saraswathi give long life to continue with carnatic music. DS Nagaraja
Thank you sir 🙏🏾
I love the way she connects it to film songs
Dr.Charulatha is Very Tharough in her subject & Analises Hamsanadam so well. I call such Ragas as 'OPEN ENDED' in my terminology, meaning they give Lots of Room for the Musician to Vary the Beatification & bring Versions / Variety of End products Songs, that R each a class by itself.
Hats Off to PhDCharulata.
hamsanadam ,beautiful ragam with anti-depression power
Very kind of you Smt Mani ! You are great
Simply divine transfer of the beautiful RAAG, Dr Charulata ji, . Salutations to you. You have explicated the subtle deviance in Hindustani counterpart of this raag. Superb clarity in differentiating that daivatam.
It was really my thoughts of the songs of Karnan film (iravum nilavum) and' thendran vanthu' that smt mani stated and it really was a satsangh with the raag hamsanadam. thanks
Pls clarify between hamsanadam and sudha sarang and shyam kalyan
Thank you s much to explained that old style... Hamsanaadham...
உங்கள் இசை பயணம்
பார்த்து
கேட்டு கேட்டு
இசை ஞானம் அடைய முயற்சித்து வருகிறேன்
தங்களுக்கு நன்றி
Namaskarams, madam. Thank you very much for the Isai Payanam series, madam! Thank you very much for the Swaras for 'sorgame enRAlum' 'iniththiduma' : rmpn pmpn pm rmpnS , such a complex set i have not been able to decipher, your teachings are very very helpful! thank you very much, madam!
Ma'am really you are one of angel in Music Atleast Once I have to meet and take class in my life Please ma'am how to meet you ma'am
Wonderful explaining thiramai is very beautiful awesome fabulous.
Good. Thanks a lot 🎉
இசையையும் அதன் பரிமாணத்தையும் அக்கு வேறு ஆணி வேறாக அலசுகிறார். அசாத்திய ஞானம். வேறு சிலரும் உள்ளார்கள் இன்று, குறை குடங்கள் போல !!!! வேறு இசைக் கலைஞர்களைப் பற்றி விமரிசிக்கும்போது - என்ன ஒரு பவ்யம், என்ன ஒரு அடக்கம், எப்படிப் புகழ்கிறார். இது ஒரு மிக மிக நல்ல குணம். திரை இசை - கர்நாடக இசை - அலசல்கள் அற்புதம் !!!!!
wow !!! Ma Saraswathi herself teaching Classical Music ! Bowing down amma ! :)
Karthik Eeshwar true 🙏
@vallyammal'Ah Aja Aja Kuch keheja kuch keheja' from "Raja jani" is based on Shuddh Sarang which is close to Hamsanadam, differing only in the dhaivatha note
And The Shuddha Madhyamam...
2 things: 1. Thendral Vandhu ennai thodum song is from the movie 'Thendral ennai thodu'. Maybe, you got it confused with "Thendral vandhu theendum bodhu" from Avatharam 2. Sorgame Endraalum is NOT based on Hamsanadam (Embar Kannan & Arun Prakash discuss this with Ilayaraja himself)
Ammaa because like you only carnatic music still alive
Super mam super
Wonderful rendering ‼️🌹💙👍
Super
Very nice madam
Thanks a lot
Beautiful explanation
can any one provide the link for Hindustani bhajan of saraswathy @ 7.45 , pls share if any one knows......
Isai Payanam with Charulatha Mani
DVD4 - Raga Hamsanadam
Other ragas in Volume 4: Mayamalavagaula and Abheri … - see Title
Thank you. Really helpful in learning. Are you documenting these basic features of a ragam in any of your dissertations or publications. Or are there any other books that detail these.
Please read as Cini song
thendral vanthu ennai thodum is from film thendrale ennai thodu
very very enchanting,enticing.I have a small request madam.I used to play bulbul tarang,now casio.There is one particular song in which there is descending alapana whose swarams I am unable to get.Is it possible for u to help me?
Madam Nishadavum Daiva tavum varumpodu Atu Ragam Mara Kootumallo?
post more raagas it's very useful to me mam.
Apologize Mam..Please check the video attached where Ilayaraja sir clarifies that "Sorgame Endralum" isn't actually Hamsanatham..(2:18 - 3:00)
Maestro's Q&A March 2013 Part 1B
+yodump Hello, listen to her show completely. In olden days and in film music, dhaivatham (dha) is used in Hamsanadham. Sorgame endraalum IS hamsanaadham based. Period.
Senor Sandy, ingayum vandhuttiyaa? Anyway, Sorgame endralum is NOT based on Hamsanadam. Embar Kannan & Arun Prakash discussed this with Ilayaraja himself.
No macth
I listened this video many number of times may be because I am addicted to this particular raga. One doubt Smt. Mani may kind enough to answer. There is one song in a Hindi movie 'Rajajani' (Dharmendra and Hema Malini starrer) in which a song 'Ah Aja Aja Kuch keheja kuch keheja' rendered by lataji! I want to know this particular number is based on Hamsanadam. In that case what is the name that is given to this raga in Hindusthani Music ?
AWESOME ...
What is this is it classroom
OUTSTANDING!
In geetanjali (Telugu), "Om namaha adhara srutulaku" is hamsanadam only. Also "Kandukondain Kandukondain" song (partially) from the tamil film also I believe, please clariiy. "Yamuna Teeram Sandhya raagam" from Telugu movie Anand also is in this raagam only, I think.
goteti udaya bhanu Yamuna terram is Saraswati ragam
Tongi chuse tongi chuse is nalinakanti
The song kandukondein is composed in raagas such as nalinakanthi and kadanakuthuhalam....not it is hamsanadam
What a raaga
madam charulatha, i wish to ask if the kamalhassan film song "poo vasam purapadum" is also Hamsanaadham please?
yes
Yes , its hamsanadham . Also , "Isayil Thodangudhamma" from "Hey Ram" is hamsa nadam
No the raga of poovaasam is shudh saarang....its is in kalyan that....
இரவும் நிலவும் என்னும் இந்தப் பாடல் சுத்த சாரங்கா ராகம் என்று Dr. ஸ்ரீ நாராயணன் சொல்கிறார். ஸ்ரீமதி சாருலதா மணி ஹம்ச நாதம் ராகம் என்று சொல்கிறார். எது சரி?தயவு செய்து சங்கீதம் தெரிந்தவர்கள் சொல்லுங்களேன்.
Yes, in Isai Payanam, one groups Suddh Sarang, and also Sarangatarangini with Hamsanadam, as it is only Hamsanadam that is very familiar to Carnatic listeners - the other two allied ragas are not well known. Mention is made of the Dhaivatha note that is the variation. For more detail see: charulathamani.blogspot.com/2013/02/call-of-swan-raga-hamsanadam.html
Can we say sudha sarang as equivalent to hamsanadam
They are allied ragas. In film music the composers gave priority to bhava and not raga grammar. The dhaivata presence and madhyama variations determine these small differences. In Isai Payanam I discuss under the umbrella of a raga. In this case Hamsanadam is the broad umbrella. Thanks for your questions.
Could you please provide a link to the Saraswati bhajan you sang in this video? Thank you in advance.
you found it already ? please post it here
Hamsanatham n saaranga are they same? Pl do the differentiation if need be.
Endru orunall pothuma" Karakara Priya 23thai melam karnatic dharbhar ragam based song from the voice of karnatic music lord Balamuralikrishna really super not only his voice but also Actor S.V.sbbiha high lighted performance no words to express his highly talents not acted in that filim really he was lived in that movie .ok
Very pleasant Raga Hamsanatham.Thanks so much for your detailed elaboration.Please clarify my doubt whether the coming song 'Tendral vandhu ennai todum' is Hamsanatham or Sudha Sarangatharangini.I asked Thiru Sikkil Gurucharan whether it is set in
'Pavani ' or Sudha Sarangatharangini.He replied that it is Sudha Sarangatharangini.
Yes, IR has used Sarangatharangini. In Isai Payanam I group Sarangatharangini, Shuddh Sarang, Hamsanadam as the idea is to relate to familiar ragas in Carnatic music, in this case Hamsanadam. Also, in film music, the song will often move back and forth between allied ragas or add the occasional foreign note. See: charulathamani.blogspot.com/2013/02/call-of-swan-raga-hamsanadam.html
இரவும் பாடல் ,பஜன் எல்லாவற்றிலும் சதுஸ்ருதி தைவதம் பாடுகிறீர்கள்.(ஸநி3த2பம2 என்று)ஹம்ஸநாத்த்தில் ஷட்ஸ்ருதி தைவதம்தானே. இந்தப்பாடல்கள் எப்படி ஹம்ஸநாதமாகும்.
Nice tutorial and eludication
i have a doubt? if we use "dhaivatham in hamsanadam then what is the difference between hamsanadam and sarangatharangini? (samana rahithe amba)... if someone know this pls clarify it for me pls??
You're right ! Sorgame endralum song is based on Saranga tharangini ragam !
Saranga Tharangini has Chathushruti Dhaivatam(D2) while the Dhaivatam that's supposed to have been used before in Hamsanadam is the Shatshruti Dhaivatam (D3).
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Isayil thodanguthamma song.. And DVD 5 illaye
Is the song "malargale malargale", from the movie love birds, based on hamsanadam?
Sreekanth Nair not.
its hamir kalyani
It is. ...
Sreekanth Nair yes correct
The song malargale is composed in three ragas mostly hamir kalyani and hamsanadam and the starting portion of malargale that violin ....is set in raaga saraswathi
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Enna oru thelivana ucharippu enna oru villakkam jilu jilu nu poguthu unmaiyil vaazhga pallandu
Madam, Shudhsaarang uses chatusrthi dhaivatham while Hamsanaadham incorporates shatsruthi dhaivatham na?
Karnan song base i believe as shyam kalyan and not hamsa nadam
outstanding
just love this program ...
but thendral vanthu ennai thodum song is from thendralae ennai thodu and not avatharam. may be it was mistook for thendral vanthu theendum pothu song due to similar words ... trivial point though..just sayin.
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Apart from the scale sa ri ma pa ni sa - sa ni pa ma ri sa, I have come across another scale which is sa ri ma pa ni sa - sa ni dha ni pa ma ri sa.
The dhaivatham does add beauty to this immensely melodious and pleasurable raagam.
Dhaivatham added to hamsanadham becomes Saranga tharangini ragam